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The former Speaker knew that already I think with the length of time but

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not to worry. Thank you, I will not require the full ten minutes. It is

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a pleasure to take part in this wide-ranging and popular debate and

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I'm grateful to the backbench business committee for making the

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opportunity possible. Among the many issues that have graced my casework

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over recent months, one of the most interesting has been the protocol to

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the -- illicit trade protocol. The problem on illicit tobacco was

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thought to be so severe, a new treaty has been required, which is

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the protocol aforementioned. It was concluded in 2012 and currently has

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24 states parties plus the EU. 40 parties are for the protocol to come

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into force. It was signed by the Government but so far has not been

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ratified by the UK. The subject is one I have raised a number of times

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through Parliamentary questions in both oral and written ages and I'm

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grateful to the financial Secretary to the Treasury for her replies.

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Those who have raised this issue with me feel the Government is

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setting a poor example on dragging its feet and as a consequence

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costing the Treasury millions of pounds in lost revenue. The latest

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HMRC figures for 2015/16 estimates the illicit market share for

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cigarettes is 32% for hand-rolling tobacco. There has been a

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significant improvement over the last decade but it remains a key

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public health concern. I say that not because illicit tobacco is more

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harmful than that in the shops, but by passing through measures to

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increase prices. I hope the answer is received go some way to

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addressing these concerns and I look forward to the text of the protocol

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being laid before Parliament as a command paper, and I would be

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grateful to the ministers if we can have an indication of a likely

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timescale. I press this point because I believe the ITP will be

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helpful in tackling the illicit trade problems. There is a worldwide

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tracking and tracing scheme for tobacco products. The ITP requires

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governments to take responsibility for control measures and not rely on

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industry self-regulation which has failed to deliver. This scheme is

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intended to prevent the tobacco industry from participating in or

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turning a blind eye to smuggling. This scheme is dependent on the

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industry for it to be effective will stop earlier this year the big

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Tobacco companies identified... It has been claimed the new owner is a

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front company and the system is still under the effective control of

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the tobacco firms. If so this would not fulfil the requirements of the

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ITP for independence. Some industry insiders highlighted it could

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identify ineffective as a track and trace system as it uses a

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combination of unique encrypted codes along with other codes which

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are easy to forge. I trust this is something ministers will have on

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their radar. In conclusion, the protocol to eliminate the illicit

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trade in tobacco products is a global problem. It's important we

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play our full part in it, and I welcome that the Government is

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committed to ratification. I am however impatient and keen to see

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progress. At this time of Christmas and goodwill towards all, it seems a

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bit churlish to bring to the attention of the House facade that

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my constituents have had over the last few weeks travelling by rail

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down from Chelmsford to Liverpool Street to work and back again. About

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9000 of my constituents commute to London to work each day, others

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during the day travel down to London and back to Chelmsford for a variety

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of other reasons but we have been struck over the last three weeks by

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one after another problem that has brought the network to a grinding

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halt, which has caused so much disruption and frustration for those

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travelling members. The fact is that in my part of six, the line is only

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two lines, one down and one up from London so there is little scope if a

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train breaks down or if there's problems with the track, except to

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sort that problem out immediately to get the network morning. When a

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problem occurs, you see all the trains behind banking up, waiting

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for a solution to that problem. If that's during the rush hour, you can

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imagine the frustration and the problems because people are wanting

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to get to work. They don't want to be late, it causes problems with

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their employers and they have to put up with that. It has happened too

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much in the immediate recent past. We have seen a freight train

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breakdown, which brought everything to a standstill, we have seen other

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engines pulling the commuter trains breaking down with all the

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disturbance and problems that causes. The fact is that in the

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future, things will be considerably better. Firstly there has been, and

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I give credit to the last government as well as to this one, and when I

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say last government I mean the last Labour government, the investment

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that has been poured in to improving and upgrading the track and

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replacing the overhead cables from Liverpool Street up to Chelmsford

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and then it will go beyond to Colchester and up to Norwich. That

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is bringing some improvements when it is completely done it will bring

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considerable improvements because we won't have so many faults occurring.

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But it is investment that no one ever sees. If you get new carriages,

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you immediately notice it obviously because they will be very different

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and a vast improvement on the last ones. But the improvement on

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infrastructure on the track people don't notice because it isn't in

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their face, but it is going on. The franchise that was awarded in the

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summer is extremely good news for my constituents insofar as the

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commitment is there that in 2019/20, every single train will be replaced

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by brand-new ones. The engines that we have at the moment, the carriages

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we have our 30 years old. It is no wonder they will break down because

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they are rather different generation, different technology,

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they are old and susceptible to faults and the that causes. So when

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we get the brand-new engines, we will see a significant improvement

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in the performance. We also will see the investment. There is a new

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station going to be built just the north-east of the city limits of

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Chelmsford are the Park will help to unclog congestion in the town -- at

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Bewley Park. By the mid 2020s, there will be a loop track to the north of

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Witham which will allow them to be able to increase capacity of the

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trains down to Liverpool Street because the fast trains will be able

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to overtake the slower trains using the loop. Jam tomorrow is great, but

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what we need is more jam today because my constituents are having

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to put up with too much disruption to their lives. And without wanting

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to rub it in, they are paying quite a lot of their taxed income for the

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pleasure, if that is the right word, to travel down to London to work. I

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want to see a number of things. Firstly, whenever there is

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engineering works and there are considerable works at the moment

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simply because they are investing in upgrading the infrastructure,

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particularly at the weekends, I want an end to the practice or

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inefficiencies of Network Rail that see engineering works over running

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into the rush hour on a Monday morning which causes considerable

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grief to people and is totally avoidable with better planning and

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organisation. I want to see more information given by the provider of

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the service when there is a breakdown, or when there is a

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disruption so that customers know exactly what the problem is, why

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they cannot get on the train or they are stuck on the train, and if it is

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possible roughly how long it is going to take for them to have the

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problem resolved so they can continue or start their journey.

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That's not asking a lot. Better communications is quite

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straightforward in this era of social media and other

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communications systems. I would also like to see more work done to ensure

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that the current engines of the trains are best maintained to

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minimise the possibility of breakdowns and I would like to see

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less freight trains operating during the rush hour when they might

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breakdown and cause utter chaos during the rush hour. That is the

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challenge for now. The challenge for the future as I've explained is

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looking good and there is one thing this Government could do to help the

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network, and that is my right honourable friend the Secretary of

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State for Transport is shortly going to use a ?450 million fund to be

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spent on trials of digital signalling for the railways and they

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will need some pilot areas to test this. I know that Essex County

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Council and myself and other honourable members are most anxious

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that one of the sites where this digital signalling is tested is

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Liverpool Street, Chelmsford, Colchester, Ipswich, Norwich line

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and I would urge my honourable friend the Minister who will be

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responding to this debate to make the Secretary of State for Transport

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aware, as I have done, how important it would be and what a signal it

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would be to the confidence in the system if the Department for

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Transport were to be prepared to use that line and that rail network as

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part of the trials for digital signalling because that is yet again

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another investment that will improve rail travel in this country over the

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coming years. The thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. By

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now, honourable members will have seen my break into the music

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industry with the National Living Rage, a Christmas song I recorded

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with other members of the bench. I'm delighted it has had the desired

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effect. Full stop it has got 40,000 hits on YouTube, and laugh that on

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everything and getting a serious message out in the public domain by

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humorous means. I want to take a moment to consider the tens of

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thousands of workers who face a pay cut, and have to bear the pressure

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of selling the house. Christmas should be a time of goodwill. A

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disappointing amount are being Scrooge is, instead of delivering

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presents they are... From B to Marks Spencer is, to Waitrose,

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Cathy Nero, good employers are getting it wrong. Using the

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introduction of a higher statutory introduction of a higher statutory

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minimum wage to cut total staff pay. Nobody in this house should be under

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any illusion that this is some sort of niche issue. This is affecting

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residents in every single constituency right across the

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country. At Marks Spencer is it was estimated 11,000 of their

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workforce would be negatively impacted by pay cuts.

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2700 workers will lose them. Approximately half a million people

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in the retail, restaurant and manufacturing industry will receive

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a pay cut. Around 13% of the workers in these industries. They've made

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some terrible errors in judgment. It is not too late for them to change

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their minds. I'm asking all these companies to reverse their decision

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to cut staff pay. Should these companies not change their minds I

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hope the government will step in and salvage the policy of a pay rise for

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all workers. I've seen evidence that proves there are many other

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companies planning the same sort of pay cuts in the coming year. Take

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John Lewis for example. The chairman stated in a private meeting earlier

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this year the intention to review the partnership's historic pay

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arrangements. He said they were not arrangements. He said they were not

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in keeping with the competitors. We know what they are doing so clearly

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the review of legacy payments is just a euphemism. We have seen clear

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evidence of this at Waitrose, with a decision to take away paid breaks

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from staff. You can appreciate my frustration when Sir Charlie

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e-mailed me to say he had no longer any intention of meeting with me

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today. Me and Buster, the boxer from John Lewis's advert, are very sad to

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not have the opportunity to discuss John Lewis's plans for pay cuts. Can

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we assume it is an admission of guilt? I guess we will not know for

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sure until those pay cuts are announced in the coming year. If I'm

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wrong I will happily apologise. I would be delighted to be wrong about

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John Lewis, it is a great British business that got great by great

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customer service from well treated staff. The sort of people the Prime

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Minister describes as those giving up their best and putting in the

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effort. I'm happy to apologise if I am wrong and I would like to

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reiterate to Sir Charlie that I would be happy to meet with him and

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to discuss this important issue wherever and whenever he would like.

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Having concentrated on unscrupulous employment practices I know that

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corporate executives are watching every move in Parliament. Through

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you I would like to deliver a message to all those company CEOs.

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The campaign to ensure nobody loses money will continue well into the

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year until every worker gets the pay that they richly deserve. Myself and

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my colleagues will be writing to chairman this week to ask for

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contracts to be reversed. I would like to use these last few minutes

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to express my deep concern for the Muslim community in Pakistan and

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this country. I thank my honourable friend for giving way and I think we

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all stand in solidarity with the community wherever they are in the

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world. Does the honourable member agree that we should always speak

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out against religious persecution wherever it occurs and whoever it

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falls on? I would agree with the honourable lady, whatever the

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religion, we must stand up for tolerance. There have been two very

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worrying developments overseas, 16 armed policeman and 12 plain clothes

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officers forced entry to an office officers forced entry to an office

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without a warrant, wounding and arresting four innocent men. This

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raid was unlawful and most likely ordered by the highest

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officials in the province. The officials in the province. The

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second was destruction of the mosque which was one week ago, stones were

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pelted and the property was burned to bring it under the influence of

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Islam. I need not remind honourable members that they are not allowed to

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define themselves as Muslim in Pakistan. I hope all honourable

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members will stand together to express this and to ask the Foreign

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Secretary to do all he can to stand Secretary to do all he can to stand

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with the oppressed. I would like to wish all honourable members are very

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peaceful New Year. After this season of goodwill... I am going to relate

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something important in this house and everywhere else. One part of

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rural Somerset, there is a determined effort to hijack public

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opinion and kill off local democracy. It is gerrymandering, and

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strong suspicion of corruption. I am sorry the honourable man for Taunton

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Deane is not here. It is a murder most foul. The real motive is money.

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I am going to give you the background to this sorry saga.

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Somerset District Council is the smallest authority in England,

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35,000 people. It is a very beautiful part of the world. The

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local council is perilously close to going bankrupt, unfortunately.

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Partly because there are not enough people to pay the bills. The council

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years and unfortunately it has years and unfortunately it has

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failed. Three years ago, it was lowered, rather like a prostitute

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into a strange house, to do a deal with Taunton Deane. For reasons I do

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not totally understand. They will not consider taking help. One of

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their labours is the best one counsel in the UK. It would have

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a deal with Taunton and I really a deal with Taunton and I really

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don't know why. Taunton Deane is desperately short of money. Why

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would they want to bail out a bankrupt neighbour when the heading

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to bankruptcy themselves? Dude to failing councils make a successful

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council? You do the maths. I believe Taunton want to get its hand on the

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business rate that will come from Hinkley point. You are getting the

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point here. My little council may be on the verge of bankruptcy, 20 years

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now, it will become seriously rich. There is nothing like the prospect

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of gold, Judas would say, in bringing out the green streak of

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counsel town halls. Taunton is consumed with envy. When the plans

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were developing, they put in a formal objection. A bit of an irony

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here, I know. They did it out of jealousy and on the orders of their

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leader, I will come back to him. He is a builder by trade and sharp and

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slightly interesting operator. John Williams is his name. Does look like

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Santa Claus but please do not be fooled in this time of goodwill. He

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is more like Rudolph who has been garrotted. I cannot see him

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laughing. He rules Taunton Deane with the grip of irony and likes to

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get his way mostly by foul means. His henchmen moved on by the Mafia

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-- like the Mafia. They took over -- like the Mafia. They took over

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the local council, pensioned off the staff and started running everything

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from Taunton. Since West Somerset's 28 councillors have unfortunately,

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and I say this against myself as anyone, become more like a glorified

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talking shop. The good people of West Somerset realise the levers of

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power are being manipulative elsewhere. You think Scotland has a

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problem! It would make matters worse if Taunton Deane was a well oiled

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machine. But it is run by an autocrat. The chief executive has

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been off for six months. We think it's lit a bad back but we are not

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entirely sure. She has a ?80,000 in sick pay and nobody knows what is

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wrong. She will be coming back soon, seven months, is going to be phased

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in in January. What is phased in? The penny has finally dropped. She

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has a long and undisputed record forgetting the thing wrong. The

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council worker undisputed supporters of Southwest one. It is an appalling

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Project which cost the taxpayers ?80 million and saved nothing. Taunton

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has nobody who knows what to do with the computers of the chances of

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another expensive disaster, watch this space and my place in the

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house. Taunton Deane has got clock up written all over it. One of the

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latest, I must tell the house, I thank you for your support. The

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committee was meant to be considering a highly controversial

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building application but the planning officers in Taunton for

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got, Fidel Castro style, to inform the house. The result was red faces

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and anger. It was pulled. West Somerset is trapped in an unfair

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partnership with a financially dodgy council. Chances are there will only

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be nine or ten councillors left because of the changes in the

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demographics. It will spell the end of local democracy. The plan sneaked

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in under the radar using the Parliament act to get round the

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involvement of the commission. You might think it was cunning stuff.

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public opinion. They have gone public opinion. They have gone

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through with a fine tooth comb but the sums don't add up. Emperor

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Williams decided to put his plan through. In Taunton, they approved a

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merger. It has led to legal challenge. They insist they were not

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told the truth. The legal challenge... I'm not surprised but

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it has gone too far. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against change, but

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partnerships can work. Maybe there are too many overpaid senior

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deserve a proper consultation but we deserve a proper consultation but we

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have a confidence trickster. Through my door came a questionnaire. The

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plan, the money was so tight something needed to be done and they

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have ruled out the possibility of any partnerships. They look how

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these work. There will be a high-level business transformation

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document which is deliberately phased to convince everybody it was

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a full-blown merger. The south-west 1 multi-million pound

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scheme, you name t they've got it. Taunton Deane want to put the

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services online and trim back the staff, but it doesn't work. West

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Somerset where broadband is intermittent or nonexistent in most

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cases the population doesn't have computers. We can't get them to

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work. Pigeons are quicker. My constituents need to talk to real

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human beings, not robots in Japan. The architect for the great schemes

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never do their homework. The business plan is riddled with

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guesswork and half truths and downright lies. The document was

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never offered and the most sensible solution to go back to the drawing

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board which is exactly what the Government told them to do to find

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out a way of moving forward with imagination. That is what I want.

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And I can tell you this, it is what the Government wants, but Emperor

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Williams doesn't fancy working with top flight councils, he couldn't

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cope with it. He is not that bright. He has done everything in his power

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to prevent constructive talks taking place. In these questions, I was

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asked believe it or not just about everything, my favourite colour, my

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inside leg measurement and at no point have I been invited to provide

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my name and address. So anybody can write in. Don't go for the merger in

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west Somerset and Taunton Deane. These forms can be filled in by

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Mickey Mouse or Emperor Williams. They set-up a new website with

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similar questions. It is not doing the trick. People are not conned. We

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should know that in this House, we have seen Brexit and Trump, but it

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may not stop councillor Williams and his mates trying to skew the results

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by making multiple entries on different computers on his own. Yep,

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it happened before. It is a consultation sham designed to abuse

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and was approved by a council that claims to be democratic. No wonder

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the electorate of Taunton Deane voted out the Conservative

:30:27.:30:31.

councillor after 42 years. It has always been blue, no longer, they

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went and got a Liberal Democrat, that's how bad this council is.

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People in Taunton Deane are sick of the way the council is working and

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it is getting worse. It used to be the county town, but its market

:30:46.:30:49.

moved to Bridgwater. The whole area is overrun with unpopular housing

:30:50.:30:54.

schemes and there seems to be a determination to build just for

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building's sake. Guess what Emperor Williams is a builder. He is is

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photographed alongside prominent local developers. I leave that

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hanging. And they look like a happy family on their ceremonial debuts.

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Brother John was seen with the bosses of Somerfield who completed

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Taunton Deane's direct Labour HQ. It sounds like something from the other

:31:24.:31:28.

side! It is located in the business park and owned by Somerfield's, but

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most of the workload is in Taunton and another town. The staff have to

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go from one place to another, to do their work. Absolute madness. Why is

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there no reference to the costs? One doesn't know, ask Brother John.

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Guess what Taunton Deane let it slip through and I'm told the

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construction work was subcontracted to a company owned by guess who?

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Brother John himself! Such a relationship is a bit too close to

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comfort and guess what? Nobody has said there is a conflict of

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interest. Wouldn't get away it in most places. This is nothing to do

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with Taunton Deane's constituents. This is not good. We need openness

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in Local Government. I don't need to tell anybody that here Mr Speaker. I

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have highlighted these things to give the House a prospective of what

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is going on in my part of Somerset. My constituents can smell a rat and

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they know what it is like. They want to keep their council and so they

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should t thank you Mr Deputy Speaker.

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THE SPEAKER: Thank you. Should I end up as a member of council, in

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Somerset, I shall make it my priority, to stay on the right side

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of the honourable member for Bridgwater!

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LAUGHTER 2016 has been a tumultuous year

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culturally and politically and with an assassination of an as bass dor

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and a terrorist attack yesterday, it seems we are finishing on a low. We

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have more in common with our European partners than divides us.

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And I feel that the current stand-off over Brexit and the

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forthcoming negotiations will drive us further apart from our neighbours

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when surely these are times when we must stick together and find common

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ground rather than hunk irdown into a bunker focussed on the challenges

:33:42.:33:44.

of Brexit while the big challenges and threats remain. The main debate

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in the EU negotiations seem to be one of immigration versus free

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movement and k access to the single market. I am not in free movement of

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unemployment and the free movement of exploitation. Over a decade ago

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as a trade union official I saw construction workers being brought

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in from abroad and used on big construction projects named as

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anyway Thorpe power station or Lindsey oil refinery spring to mind.

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These immigration workers would be used by the prime and principle

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subcontractors to drive down wages in a sector where skilled well paid

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jobs provided a good standard of living. Wage rates were falling in a

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race to the bottom that god employers, the majority of

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employers, were forced to join in to stay competitive and the difference

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was kept a bigger profits by the corporations and its bosses rather

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than being shared out amongst the men and women doing the work. It is

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unsurprising that so many working class people voted to leave the EU

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when this was their most visible personal experience of it, albeit

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wasn't the EU that was at fault, but the system of globalised capitalism

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that we are seeing today. My solution would be simple, retain

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free movement in a qualified manner. If you have got a job, you can come

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and work here, but the job must be advertised in the UK in English and

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must pay accepted UK pay rates. I suspect that the rest of the EU may

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soon find itself moving towards such a system anyway. But the euro

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referendum and it would seem events elsewhere brought into focus another

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new state of politics. Exemplified by the year of the word, post truth.

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In the UK there was no better example than the red vote Leave bus

:35:42.:35:52.

with its promise of an extra ?350 million a week for the NHS. Members

:35:53.:35:56.

of this House who associated themselves with the promise of never

:35:57.:36:02.

apologising for this association. I have to say that I sought guidance

:36:03.:36:17.

from Mr Speaker and advice how I may criticise the Foreign Secretary. I

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would suggest that these members were deliberately and wilfully

:36:26.:36:31.

mendacious. A practise which is known in Cheshire as being a

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snollygoster. Post truth, politics is dangerous because it devalues our

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political system and corrodes the quality of our democracy and

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diminishes public trust in our institutions, but it has a broader

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effect too. A cultural effect. As well as undermining honesty and

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trust and celebrating deceit, post truth celebrates ignorance and

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stupidity that learning is not to be valued and has nothing to

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contribute. When the member for Surrey Heath said he had enough of

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experts on Sky News, it was a breathtaking attack on progress. An

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attack on scientific and cultural learning, a devaluation of the

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intrinsic importance... THE DEPUTY SPEAKER: We are

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mentioning members. Did you give notice that you were going to

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mention members in the chamber? That's something I will bear in mind

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and I will amend my comments suitably as a result. So when

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members talk about the fact that they have had enough of experts, it

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is an attack I believe on progress. A devaluation of the importance of

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knowledge is a good thing. I say this clearly to the House please

:37:49.:37:54.

reject the dishonesty of post truth politics, but reject its regressive

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and reactionary message that ignorance and dishonesty are somehow

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a god thing. Post truth didn't put a man on the moon or develop the

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Hubble Space Telescope. And post truth will not find a cure for

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cancer. And if we in this place cannot address an argument with fact

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maybe it is time to reassess whether our views are correct and

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sustainable. If I may Mr Deputy Speaker, I make one further plea to

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the House as we look forward to the New Year. To reject the notion, the

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52% vote to leave is somehow the will of the people. It is the will

:38:29.:38:32.

of the majority of the people and it must be respected and we must

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deliver the exit from the EU that the referendum agreed. But it cannot

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be portrayed as the will of all the people. The views of the 48% must be

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taken into account as to how we exit the EU. We cannoting ignored or

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airbrushed away. I pay tribute to honourable members on my front bench

:38:55.:38:58.

who are trying to make efforts to represent the 100%. In addition to

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the perils of politics, I fear we face another threat which is one of

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disunity. The referendum was brought about by this Government to halt

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long running rifts in certain parts of the House, but the rifts have

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been transferred to the whole country. They fed narrow nationalism

:39:18.:39:22.

in certain parts of the country and I say to honourable members that

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narrow petty nationalism cannot be the solution to any problem that we

:39:27.:39:31.

face in the world today. I'm not imagining a nation where we all

:39:32.:39:35.

agree and everything is fine and dandy, but a basic consensus about

:39:36.:39:39.

how we do politics has been attacked as exemplified by attacks in the

:39:40.:39:43.

media against High Court judges and their integrity. We are stronger

:39:44.:39:47.

when we stick together and the at moment I have never known our

:39:48.:39:51.

country to be so deeply and unpleasantly divided. We heard so

:39:52.:39:55.

much about putting the great back into Great Britain, perhaps now with

:39:56.:39:58.

the external threats and challenges we face, it is time to put the

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united back into the United Kingdom. Today I wish to address two very

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important constituency issues. One in relation to transport

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infrastructure arrangements and the other the education improvements in

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Filton and Bradley Stoke. Firstly the metro bus. This will provide a

:40:20.:40:25.

dedicated bus route from the south of Bristol to my constituency in

:40:26.:40:30.

order to provide an alternative to car journeys and should carry 6,000

:40:31.:40:39.

passengers a year, which equates to 228,000 car journeys per year. It is

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?100 million project funded by the Department for Transport, south

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Gloucestershire council and Bristol City Council. I have always been a

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keen supporter of the scheme and remain so. However the metro bus

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works have caused major congestion disruption and delays for the

:40:58.:41:01.

residents of Bradley Stoke and the surrounding areas. One of my

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constituency team has a 10 to 15 minute drive through the rush hour,

:41:09.:41:14.

she had a journey which took nearly three hours. I have experienced and

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shared the frustrations of people stuck in the traffic jams during

:41:21.:41:23.

commuting hours without much evidence at times it seems of work

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actually taking place on the metro bus route. Constituents have

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reported that whilst they are stuck in their cars, in traffic jams, they

:41:31.:41:33.

have seen workmen asleep on the site. The work have taken too long.

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Are over time and thinkingsly, were not done with understanding or

:41:40.:41:43.

appreciation for people who have to get in and out of Bradley Stoke

:41:44.:41:46.

every day to travel to school and work. The project suffered from a

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lack of communication from the contractors and the council. I did

:41:50.:41:54.

organise and chair a public meeting this year to get local people

:41:55.:41:57.

face-to-face with the contractors and council and representatives from

:41:58.:42:01.

the bus company. A few weeks ago I organised a meeting with road

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contractors Allen Griffiths, metro bus and south Gloucestershire

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council and including the lead councillor responsible for transport

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in south Gloucestershire along with Bradley Stoke town councillors. I

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met with the Secretary of State a week or so ago for transport to

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bring this issue to his attention and to ask for his help. I

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understand that major transport infrastructure projects and

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improvement works will cause disruption and jams occasionally,

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however right next door to the congestion is the M4, M5 managed

:42:36.:42:40.

motorway scheme which was completed on time and on budget. Often the

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contractors work through the night and all hours. One evening they

:42:45.:42:47.

replaced a pedestrian bridge and replaced it in the same nimth night.

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The works were completed with the minimum of disruption to residents.

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I suggested to the contractors that these ought to be the methods which

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they aspire to adopt. I was told they couldn't work longer hours

:43:02.:43:04.

during to health and safety considerations.

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Since the recent meeting I organised with the stakeholders, greater

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efforts have been made to communicate to local residents and

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progress has been made in assisting the flow of traffic to minimise the

:43:25.:43:28.

impact on local road users at peak times.

:43:29.:43:36.

The other local issue I'd like to raise is about the Academy in my

:43:37.:43:43.

academies which runs this was issued academies which runs this was issued

:43:44.:43:53.

a financial notice to improve and provide a plan to achieve a balanced

:43:54.:44:01.

budget with a deficit of ?1 million. Winterbourne Academy has had issues

:44:02.:44:06.

with leadership and management and needs to be re-brokered into a new

:44:07.:44:10.

structure. During this process parents, teachers and pupils felt

:44:11.:44:14.

they were not being kept informed. I was contacted by a large number of

:44:15.:44:20.

constituents were very concerned about what was happening.

:44:21.:44:33.

We met with the South regional schools Commissioner. It has enabled

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us to get more background to the situation. Trying to reassure them

:44:43.:44:52.

that everything possible was being done to secure a solution to the

:44:53.:44:56.

difficulties. The Academy will be taken over by a new trust. They've

:44:57.:45:03.

looked at their options. They've communicated it to the schools

:45:04.:45:06.

Commissioner who has decided to take the recommendation to Lord Nash.

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There should be full clarity about who will run it. Better

:45:14.:45:20.

communication is needed. I understand the outcome they are

:45:21.:45:24.

hoping for is that the school becomes part of a multi-Academy

:45:25.:45:29.

trust managed jointly by the Olympic Academy trust. I welcome the recent

:45:30.:45:42.

news that Dave Baker, CEO of Olympus Academy trust and Castle School

:45:43.:45:50.

education trust will jointly provide interim leadership, and support for

:45:51.:45:54.

the Academy, with a view to appointing a principal at the end of

:45:55.:46:07.

January. After the Good Friday agreement, hundreds of terrorists

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were let out of prison in the name of reconciliation. We have lots of

:46:11.:46:15.

former terrorists walking the streets. Some of them have worked

:46:16.:46:19.

their way into high positions of political life. There is an amnesty

:46:20.:46:28.

for former terrorists and yet the full force of the law is being used

:46:29.:46:33.

to prosecute those on the other side of the fence, former soldiers doing

:46:34.:46:36.

their best and doing their duty. This is clearly wrong and smacks of

:46:37.:46:44.

victors justice it cannot be right to let terrorists out of prison

:46:45.:46:50.

whilst pursuing former British soldiers. If there is going to be

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lasting peace there needs to be fairness on all sides. Not that I

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think... My youngest son has passed out of his basic training a couple

:47:11.:47:13.

of weeks ago and I'm immensely proud of him. When he is deployed on

:47:14.:47:27.

operations in future and asks me for advice, I have done an operational

:47:28.:47:36.

careful, because if mistakes are careful, because if mistakes are

:47:37.:47:39.

made, if things go wrong and the politics change in the future, even

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45 years later, he could be pursued through the courts in his retirement

:47:46.:47:49.

in a witchhunt, politically motivated. I don't think so. My

:47:50.:47:56.

advice would be the same advice I received. If you feel your life is

:47:57.:48:03.

in danger or your comrades are in danger, do not hesitate to defend

:48:04.:48:09.

support former service people from support former service people from

:48:10.:48:10.

this injustice because what is this injustice because what is

:48:11.:48:14.

happening is a stain on the honour of our country. We are letting down

:48:15.:48:19.

so badly the people who risk their lives to keep us safe. I am grateful

:48:20.:48:29.

and honoured to follow the gentleman opposite. I'm going to speak about

:48:30.:48:37.

three issues that have come about in relation to community casework in my

:48:38.:48:41.

the issue of how hysteroscopy is the issue of how hysteroscopy is

:48:42.:48:50.

conducted in the NHS and drawn to the attention of the house the

:48:51.:48:55.

serious pain and distress suffered by four too many women who are not

:48:56.:49:01.

and empathy they receive from and empathy they receive from

:49:02.:49:07.

clinicians and the NHS. As this house will be aware, in the

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procedure, a small camera is passed through the cervix to examine and

:49:15.:49:21.

take a sample from the lining of the womb. That means cutting out

:49:22.:49:24.

of the lining of the womb. It is of the lining of the womb. It is

:49:25.:49:32.

useful in the diagnosis of cancer and also to investigate fertility

:49:33.:49:36.

issues and perform minor operations. For most women, this is a

:49:37.:49:42.

significantly uncomfortable procedure. But for a sizeable number

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it can be unbearably painful, leading to significant blood loss,

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loss of consciousness and hospitalisation. Some procedure is

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are carried out as an outpatient appointment and often without any

:50:05.:50:10.

kind of anaesthesia. The NHS website helpfully says you may

:50:11.:50:11.

some discomfort similar to period some discomfort similar to period

:50:12.:50:15.

cramps when it is carried out. It should not be painful. To say this

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advice is misleading is something of an understatement. It is

:50:25.:50:33.

unacceptably painful for some women. It is estimated up to a quarter of

:50:34.:50:38.

patients have reported severe pain. I know that you will agree with me

:50:39.:50:43.

this is not acceptable to presume the worst that can happen is for

:50:44.:50:50.

women to experience some discomfort. The reality for women is very

:50:51.:50:56.

different. All women need to be offered proper anaesthesia at the

:50:57.:51:01.

appropriate moment so the sizeable minority who experience significant

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pain can be supported. This is the third time I've raised this in

:51:15.:51:20.

debate and I've decided not to read out the individual cases that have

:51:21.:51:23.

been mailed to me trusting that there are stories will get action.

:51:24.:51:31.

leader of the house if he will raise leader of the house if he will raise

:51:32.:51:36.

the matter for me with the Department of Health and get for us

:51:37.:51:42.

a statement about the issue of pain management. We need better systems

:51:43.:51:54.

triage. More information on what triage. More information on what

:51:55.:51:57.

might happen needs to be made available to patients beforehand,

:51:58.:52:02.

accompanied by the support needed to ensure women understand the risks.

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You're begging for the procedure to stop. Given this is the third time

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of raising this and I've had some warm words from ministers in the

:52:28.:52:33.

past, I am failing to understand what's preventing action and I

:52:34.:52:40.

wonder if it is money. The cost of having anaesthetic available to

:52:41.:52:48.

women. I look forward to getting a written response from the Department

:52:49.:52:52.

of Health. I don't think it's unreasonable to say that possibly by

:52:53.:52:56.

mid-February, because I'm not unreasonable in the main, if I don't

:52:57.:53:06.

get one then I'm going to seek a further debate in this house to

:53:07.:53:11.

focus on the issue because I cannot believe other members in this house

:53:12.:53:16.

that this remains acceptable. The that this remains acceptable. The

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other issue like to focus on is that a couple of months ago we had our

:53:25.:53:29.

first debate on arthritis for many years and given it affects 10

:53:30.:53:34.

million people, one in six of our population, we might think it

:53:35.:53:38.

deserves greater attention. In particular it is important to

:53:39.:53:41.

understand the differences between parts of arthritis and how they

:53:42.:53:44.

affect everyday life because too often we assume this is something

:53:45.:53:49.

for the elderly. She got an arthritic condition in

:53:50.:54:03.

her 20s and she was so exhausted by the condition that she was unable to

:54:04.:54:11.

continue her work in law and has spent many years trying to get the

:54:12.:54:14.

condition under control. She said to me it is not about having a creaky

:54:15.:54:22.

knees. People do not understand how it can impact massively on

:54:23.:54:26.

somebody's life. There are implications for employers and

:54:27.:54:30.

carers and the government's welfare to work policy. People with

:54:31.:54:36.

rheumatoid arthritis which occurs when the immune system targets

:54:37.:54:41.

joints. It can be a fluctuating condition and it can make it so hard

:54:42.:54:46.

for a person to sustain full-time work. When properly understood and

:54:47.:54:50.

managed there is no reason why an individual cannot continue in their

:54:51.:54:54.

working lives provided there is sufficient understanding and

:54:55.:54:57.

flexibility not just to avoid and manage flare-ups but to accommodate

:54:58.:55:05.

necessary medical appointments. One constituent has written to me to ask

:55:06.:55:09.

house to consider a legal right to house to consider a legal right

:55:10.:55:11.

flexible working for those with flexible working for those with

:55:12.:55:17.

fluctuating health conditions. I spoke recently about my own

:55:18.:55:25.

experience of arthritis and getting it under control and I would like to

:55:26.:55:28.

place on record my thanks to the many constituents who got in touch

:55:29.:55:33.

with their stories telling me about their similar experience. I'm

:55:34.:55:38.

delighted to hear about the breakthroughs in medical science

:55:39.:55:41.

that will allow others to live full lives. The UK is leading the way in

:55:42.:55:48.

many potential solutions. I've read about the medical research carried

:55:49.:55:51.

out in Glasgow for osteoporosis and I know that our European partners

:55:52.:55:56.

are working in this area. The clinical trials are taking place in

:55:57.:55:59.

the Netherlands to reverse the symptoms of rheumatoid arthritis

:56:00.:56:07.

through and electronic implant. My concern is some of the critical

:56:08.:56:11.

research collaborations in this area will be threatened by our departure

:56:12.:56:18.

from the European Union. I know that it has been discussed but I would be

:56:19.:56:22.

grateful if the Shadow Minister of the house would be able to discuss

:56:23.:56:28.

with whoever he needs in order to confirm the specific areas of

:56:29.:56:35.

research will be protected. Finally, I'd like to mention one of the more

:56:36.:56:41.

troubling cases I've received in my constituency surgery concerning a

:56:42.:56:47.

British national who was the husband British national who was the husband

:56:48.:56:50.

of my constituent and was killed in Pakistan on a trip to visit family.

:56:51.:57:06.

He'd been celebrating Eid. Gunmen opened fire and he and the driver of

:57:07.:57:12.

the vehicle were killed instantly. The third who had been sat in the

:57:13.:57:16.

back of the car managed to escape by jumping into the back of the ravine

:57:17.:57:22.

and was able to raise alarm. My understanding is Mr Khan, who was

:57:23.:57:31.

not the intended target, which is little consolation, my constituents

:57:32.:57:34.

have struggled to make sure his death is fully investigated and

:57:35.:57:37.

perpetrators brought to account. perpetrators brought to account.

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Sadly they are struggling to the Sadly they are struggling to the

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point of being asked for money by local investigating police

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for example to transport files and for example to transport files and

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take statements. I've written to the Minister concerned about the case

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and he has been really helpful in the response. My purpose in raising

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the case today is to draw attention to the plight of the family of my

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late constituent. I want to get a greater understanding about how the

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government can meet the safety concerns of British national is in

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Pakistan. Assistance is afforded to them visiting the country and

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perhaps when he winds up, the deputy leader of the house will indicate

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whether he might consider pushing for Parliamentary time in order to

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discuss this subject more likely. I want to thank the House for the

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opportunity of raising these issues today and I would like to wish you

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and to all our colleagues and to the amazing staff of this House, who are

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so good with us every single day, the very, very best for Christmas

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and for the New Year. Thank you mrrks Deputy Speaker.

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Having served in Northern Ireland during the troubles there, I have

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been asked by my old comrades of the Cheshire Regiment to highlight an

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inI canitiy which has been referred to by good friend the honourable

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member for Filton and Bradley Stoke. The inI can quite is that many

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British soldiers could be re-investigated for their actions

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during fatal shooting incidents. Apparently, the Police Service of

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Northern Ireland has been instructed to look at about 230 fatal shooting

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incidents during which some 302 people died.

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Almost all terrorists. If so, it is my understanding that about 1,000

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ex-soldiers could be hauled into account for their actions all those

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years ago and they could be even charged with manslaughter and

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murder. I'm appalled that such actions against our soldiers has

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been taken when so many terrorists from all sides were granted full

:00:09.:00:12.

pardons under the Good Friday Agreement. To me, this looks like a

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highly political and vindictive move by Mr Barry McGrory, the Director of

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Public Prosecutions in Northern Ireland. As I understand it, McGrory

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was a solicitor who in the past represented provisional Sinn Fein,

:00:33.:00:36.

on the run terrorist schts and it was he who negotiated an effective

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amnesty for many of them. His background hardly suggests

:00:46.:00:50.

impartiality to me. Our soldiers were trained to apply strict rules

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of engagement. The so-called yellow card. Technically, instructions by

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the Director of Operations for opening fire in Northern Ireland

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were both detailed and precise. They outlined exactly when soldiers could

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use firearms and our troops spent a long time during pre-Northern

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Ireland training sessions being instructed on them. Opening fire in

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Northern Ireland was considered to be a very serious matter by the

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Army. After every shooting incident, regardless of casualties, the Army

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and the Royal Ulster Constabulary held an investigation. When such

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events involved casualties or fatalities there were strict

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procedures to be followed and they were too. Normally that involves

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soldiers having to go to court to prove they had acted within the law.

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And the yellow card rules. In one incident where I myself played a

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small part I recall having to tell two soldiers that having escaped

:02:05.:02:09.

with their lives, by opening fire, they would nonetheless be charged

:02:10.:02:16.

with manslaughter. Unsurprisingly, the two men still in some shock were

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utterly appalled. They shouted at me. Saying they were abandoned by

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the Army. As their superior officer, I totally understand, understood

:02:31.:02:38.

their feelings and shared them. Nonetheless, the Royal Ulster

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Constabulary informed me that the two soldiers had to be charged with

:02:42.:02:46.

manslaughter. Personally, I was furious and I argued vociferously

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that this was wrong and very unfair. Regardless, the soldiers appeared in

:02:52.:02:55.

court. It was quickly proved that they had acted within the law and

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their case was dismissed. It was difficult for me and especially the

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soldiers at the time to understand the reason for that court

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appearance, but it was explained to me that having had their case

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dismissed, they could never be charged again. Perhaps if the

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politically mat changed -- political climate changed. Guess what? It

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seems to have done. I had difficulty seeing the logic of that at the

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time. I can tell you. Then later, after the immediate drama was over,

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I did. I believed the whole matter had been dealt with in court and it

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was over forever. But maybe I was wrong. I presume my two men could be

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among the 302 soldiers apparently under investigation by the Director

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of Public Prosecutions in Northern Ireland. I don't maintain that our

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servicemen and women are above the law, of course they're not, but

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reopening all fatal shooting incidents against all soldiers is

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hugely one-sided and that looks bad and that includes me and several

:04:16.:04:24.

members of this House. I give way. A gallant gentleman for giving way. He

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was a leader of the Cheshire Reasonablingment and many of my

:04:29.:04:31.

constituents would have served with him in that excellent renlg: Does he

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not agree with me that those former servicemen who served in Northern

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Ireland and risked their lives in that respect, including my

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constituents deserve to have that black cloud removed from them as

:04:45.:04:49.

quickly as possible? I thank my good friend because he comes from Chester

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and I commanded the Cheshire Regiment. I thank my good friend for

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that intervention. Yes, yes, our soldiers should not be under this

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cloud. They are not terrorists. Terrorists have been given amnesty

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and pardons in the Good Friday Agreement. Why should our men, some

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of them quite old now, not sleep soundly? Terrorists who have killed

:05:20.:05:32.

do so. It's wrong. It's wrong. It is possibly even malicious and a huge

:05:33.:05:36.

waste of public money while we are at it. Why is the Director of Public

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Prosecutions not telling the Police Service of Northern Ireland to

:05:45.:05:47.

direct its efforts into clearing up and charging so many unsolved

:05:48.:05:52.

terrorist murders from the time of the troubles? Incidents involving

:05:53.:06:01.

soldiers were investigated as I've explained at the time and if wrong

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was done, our soldiers were taken to court at the time. Some even went to

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prison. What sort of people are we that we give terrorists amnesty and

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hound those who put their lives at risk for us? Hound those that put

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their lives at risk for the rest of us. I demand that the legal

:06:36.:06:40.

authorities in Northern Ireland desist from this clearly politically

:06:41.:06:45.

inspired, blanket action against what could be almost one of

:06:46.:06:54.

thousands of soldiers. They should concentrate their energies on

:06:55.:06:58.

finding the unlocated remains of many innocent people massacred by

:06:59.:07:01.

terrorists and bring those murderers to book. Thank you, Mr Deputy

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Speaker. It is always a pleasure to follow the honourable gentleman. I

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support his comments as I do the other gentleman who spoke earlier

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on. I think everyone in this House resonates with his comments and I

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think we all want to have those prosecutions and those

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investigations to desist and stop from them. Can I first of all Mr

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Deputy Speaker associate myself and my party, the DUP and offer sincere

:07:31.:07:36.

sympathies to all those who have lost loved ones in the awfulness of

:07:37.:07:40.

the unspeakable attack in Berlin? I think it is good that we remember at

:07:41.:07:46.

this time of year those who grieve and for an attack that was so close

:07:47.:07:52.

to a church as well. I would speak Mr Deputy Speaker in the short time

:07:53.:07:58.

we have in making a difference, but I want to if heous on this time of

:07:59.:08:03.

year. I'm one of those guys who loves Christmas. I love taking my

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grandchildren to special church services and attending services in

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different churches and just remembering the real reason for the

:08:12.:08:15.

season. A chance to celebrate Jesus. We know in all reality 25th December

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is not just a day when Jesus was born, but a time to focus our minds

:08:21.:08:26.

on the greatest gift given to mankind, Lord Jesus. Last week I put

:08:27.:08:30.

down an EDM referring to the real meaning of Christmas and many

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members took the opportunity to sign that and endorse that comment as did

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others who asked knee make comments on it as well. The Christmas message

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is a celebration of Jesus who gave his life for those who would accept

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him into his hearts. I love the celebration of his birth. It was a

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time for faith and for family and for focus and a personal basis I

:08:54.:08:58.

also want to thank the Lord Jesus for the personal faith that I have.

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I thank God for the time that he will spend over Chris has with our

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families, with my wife and my boys and indeed, with my mother. And

:09:07.:09:12.

cherish the time to laugh and the time to be laughed at and just to be

:09:13.:09:17.

in each other's company. I see it as a time where I refocus on what is

:09:18.:09:22.

important and what I need to do. It is a time I think of my role and how

:09:23.:09:27.

I can make a difference in my own family and my own constituency. The

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honourable gentleman spoke about our soldiers and while we are in this

:09:35.:09:40.

House, our soldiers, our Army, our RAF, naval service and the Fire

:09:41.:09:43.

Service and the Ambulance Service are all doing their work for us and

:09:44.:09:47.

protecting us and we want to put that on record as well. And as you

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know freedom religious belief I speak out for them. I want to focus

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and think for one minute and pray for those persecuted Christians

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across world who can't worship their God as we will this Christmas and

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think of the 100,000 Christians who will be killed for their faith. The

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200 million who will be persecuted and the 200 million that live in an

:10:19.:10:22.

endangered neighbourhood. That's are the facts of where we are. It is

:10:23.:10:26.

Christmas time and we all enjoy a good Christmas movie. Many of us

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think of It Is A Wonderful Life By James Stewart. A great film. Your

:10:32.:10:40.

life affects everyone else. When I focus upon the issue of make ago

:10:41.:10:44.

difference i want to focus on that. I want to quickly give an

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illustration of it which I believe carries a lesson for us all Mr

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Deputy Speaker. The story is told of an old man who used to go to the

:10:56.:10:58.

ocean to do his writing. Early one morning he was walking along the

:10:59.:11:02.

shore after a big storm passed and found the fast speech that. Often

:11:03.:11:10.

the distance he noticed a small boy approaching wearing his Wellington

:11:11.:11:14.

boots and carrying a bucket. As the boy walked, he paused every so often

:11:15.:11:18.

as he grew closer, the man could see he was occasionally bending down to

:11:19.:11:22.

pick up an object and put it into his bucket and take it into the sea.

:11:23.:11:26.

The boy came closer and the man called out, "Good morning, may I ask

:11:27.:11:33.

what it is you're doing?" The young boy paused and replied, "Taking

:11:34.:11:37.

starfish into the ocean. The tide washed them up on to the beach and

:11:38.:11:44.

they can't return. When the sun comes up, they will die." The old

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man said there must be tens of thousands of starfish on the beach,

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you won't be able to make a difference. The young boy turned and

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smiled said, "Ah, yes, but I can make a difference to this one."

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People may raise their eyebrows... I'm grateful to the honourable

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gentleman forgiving way and for reading what is an inspiring story

:12:22.:12:28.

and I would like to pay tribute to his comments on religious freedom --

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for giving way. I think he's making a difference to people over the

:12:35.:12:38.

world and I am grateful to him. I appreciate that. People highlight

:12:39.:12:46.

individual cases, because where I believe I can make a difference

:12:47.:12:55.

where I can. It is a time to figure out a benefits form to someone who

:12:56.:12:58.

is deserving and contact the housing is -- executive to help someone, the

:12:59.:13:11.

helpful someone to get an operation and to get further up the to get

:13:12.:13:16.

their examination or investigation done. There is a time to register

:13:17.:13:25.

concerns over Brexit and to highlight the concerns going

:13:26.:13:35.

forward. I believe we have a duty to encourage others to do what we do,

:13:36.:13:42.

and in my area, there was a post on Facebook, which said, instead of

:13:43.:13:47.

looking into a house where the ambulance could not come to the

:13:48.:13:51.

door, the family were able to contact others to let them in, and

:13:52.:13:59.

the sense of community... We can but those issues -- we can member those

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issues. There is more need for each other to take care of each other

:14:08.:14:10.

where we can and to look after our elderly relatives and help were

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began. It takes effort and time but we will all be the beneficiaries

:14:16.:14:23.

from living in a community that cares in a place where you trust

:14:24.:14:27.

your neighbour. It would be great that if it carries on all year

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round. I'm one of 115 members of this place and I'm only one of an

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eight strong DUP team in this place, a party which I think boxes above

:14:41.:14:48.

its weight, let me say. The page to keep on making differences were

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began. -- we pledge. Doing what we can for everyone. A lovely quotation

:14:54.:15:03.

from every appeal. -- Everett heel. I'm only one but I am one, I can't

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do everything but I can do something. This is the reason and

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this is the lesson that we can all take on board in this place, the

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mentality of doing what we can for those, that we can help. I want to

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put on record and thank everyone, Mr Speaker, as well, for your

:15:23.:15:30.

understanding and patience, giving a us the chance to speak in this

:15:31.:15:38.

House. And for understanding my ulster Scots accent and making sure

:15:39.:15:48.

that we can understand each other. The leader of the House says he

:15:49.:15:50.

enjoys my accent and I hope he understood it well. For those who

:15:51.:15:56.

are here and to keep us safe and for the staff who are very clearly

:15:57.:15:59.

writing down the words, just when you think they are getting to

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understand you, they say, what did you say again? It is a pleasure to

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be a member and a pleasure to be a member of this House. I want to say

:16:11.:16:20.

one thing to my friend. We may not understand you sometimes. But my God

:16:21.:16:27.

you have one hell of a heart and we can see it. I thank you for that

:16:28.:16:34.

intervention and he knows I think equally of him and we have a mutual

:16:35.:16:41.

understanding of our service in Northern Ireland in uniform and also

:16:42.:16:46.

our service in this House. Can I wish everyone a Merry Christmas and

:16:47.:16:54.

a happy New Year. God bless in 2017. May I also states that the

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honourable member makes a big difference in this House and is a

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big asset in this chamber. I fully agree with my honourable friend, the

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member for Chipping Barnet, with everything she said about the own

:17:11.:17:14.

arrest nature of the tax returns and I hope the Minister will think about

:17:15.:17:19.

her proposals -- she said about the owner Russ nature.

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I want to talk about DW assessments -- DWP. In Twickenham where I am, we

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have good employment figures, I'm happy to say, and since 2010 the

:17:36.:17:40.

unemployment figures have decreased by 34%. I am grateful for that.

:17:41.:17:48.

However, what concerns me, the nature and the attitude that happens

:17:49.:17:55.

in DWP assessments. Many of us in this chamber have seen the Ken Loach

:17:56.:18:06.

film, I Daniel Blake and the excellent acting in that film. It is

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a very moving film, but what is more troubling for me, the people I have

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met in my surgery, not actors, people who have lived through the

:18:20.:18:22.

kind of scenes that have been portrayed by care much. I have seen

:18:23.:18:27.

people who have been treated worse than the character in I Daniel

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Blake. My concern, which I have mentioned, if someone has a terminal

:18:42.:18:45.

condition, they must not go through an assessment if they have a

:18:46.:18:51.

consultant report. I value the ministers saying they do not need to

:18:52.:18:56.

have repeated assessments, but for other people who undergo the DWP

:18:57.:19:00.

assessment, they must be treated with dignity. And it is shameful

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that I have met people, gentleman, older than myself, who have been

:19:10.:19:17.

shamed in these assessments and who have not been given the respect they

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deserve. I believe that what is needed, a bit like having the police

:19:25.:19:28.

wearing body cameras, we need these assessments to be recorded, with the

:19:29.:19:32.

agreement of the people going through, so that if there is a

:19:33.:19:39.

concern summer has not been treated with respect or shamed, the

:19:40.:19:45.

assessors can at least be shown why and how they have given this

:19:46.:19:49.

impression to people -- someone has not been treated with respect. There

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needs to be recording and there needs to be better accountability.

:19:58.:20:03.

Nobody should feel shame going through this assessment. Having said

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that, this is Christmas and I wish Deputy Speaker and all speakers and

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our excellent staff and all members a very very Merry and peaceful

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break. Thank you. Before the House adjourns I want to say a number of

:20:23.:20:29.

points which I wish to raise, we want to celebrate the birth of a new

:20:30.:20:33.

life as we move to Christmas, but many colleagues will be reflecting

:20:34.:20:37.

on treatments, and I've been in the chamber and I've listened to our

:20:38.:20:41.

comments from colleagues who have lost babies. We think of the murder

:20:42.:20:48.

of our colleague Jo Cox. I agree with honourable man was that I hope

:20:49.:20:52.

that record will become number one and a bit of money will be made. My

:20:53.:20:56.

own mother died early this year at the age of 104 and people would say

:20:57.:21:01.

she had a good innings and she lived long enough to vote in the European

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referendum. But obviously for so many people Christmas won't be quite

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the same. That is when I wanted to spend a little moment on Brive

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counselling services -- bereavement. Colleagues spoke about their

:21:24.:21:29.

experiences ten, 15 years ago, and this is clearly an important area. I

:21:30.:21:35.

praise the all party Parliamentary group for funerals and bereaved

:21:36.:21:41.

months on what they do, especially Fairhaven 's Hospice, over 13 years

:21:42.:21:49.

they have carried out the wishes and have allowed people to live rather

:21:50.:21:56.

than to die. They play an absolutely vital role in supporting families in

:21:57.:22:00.

their greatest time of need. Their bereaved month counselling services

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are second to need -- Brive. Bereavement. Every ?3 out of ?4 go

:22:07.:22:17.

to the Hospice as I hope that somewhere in the wider world there

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is an individual who has lots of money who might help us as want to

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kick-start the fund for our annual Hospice. Southend Hospital has a

:22:27.:22:33.

number of challenges, and I was convinced by the Essex success

:22:34.:22:41.

regime that we would see manifest changes but that hasn't happened

:22:42.:22:46.

yet, but I hope we can get on with it and any alterations to accident

:22:47.:22:50.

and emergency services can only happen if they are clinically led.

:22:51.:22:58.

Underline did to to the House Southend alternative city of culture

:22:59.:23:03.

will be launched -- I'm delighted to announce to the House. Our new town

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crier will be welcoming BC -- the year celebrations, we will be

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celebrating food and drink, music, fashion, architecture, the Armed

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Forces, and I'm greatly heartened by the way the local community is

:23:30.:23:33.

rallying around this event. Southend will be celebrating 125 years of the

:23:34.:23:40.

founding of the borough, they will be events celebrating the historic

:23:41.:23:46.

milestone. Including the Festival Southend-on-Sea led by the Mayor of

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Southend and the leader of the council. It will be a wonderful

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occasion. Moving to the leader of the Council, John Lamb, he is

:23:56.:23:59.

concerned that authorities are struggling to meet the spiralling

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costs of adult social care. I would be grateful if my friend the debited

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leader of the House with ask the Secretary of State to the cut

:24:16.:24:18.

funding for adult social care, especially for councils such as

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Southend stash if my friend the debited leader. -- if my friends the

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deputy leader. Seven years was spent producing the hill -- Duke

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-- seven years were spent reducing the Chilcott inquiry. I hope that at

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some stage the former Prime Minister Tony Blair will be called before one

:24:54.:24:57.

of the select committees to give an account on how on earth he came to

:24:58.:25:01.

those decisions which were clearly wrong. As far as Iran is concerned,

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refugees from camp liberty were successfully airlifted to Albania in

:25:10.:25:19.

September and I hope that the leader of the NCR will be able to speak

:25:20.:25:24.

some time in the UK. School inspections is a worry for all

:25:25.:25:30.

schools and I am appalled at the local inspection that took place at

:25:31.:25:35.

our wonderful school, our Lady of Lourdes. I don't know if the

:25:36.:25:40.

inspector had an agenda, but how on earth the inspector team could have

:25:41.:25:48.

judged this school as failing beggars belief, poor judgment, and I

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do think school inspections generally should be revisited when a

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new chief inspector of schools is in place.

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He had been incurred a stand, giving infantry and life-saving training to

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the Peshmerga -- he had been in Kurdistan. This constituent has been

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left with no money and no support and I intend on another occasion to

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raise it in the dedicated adjournment debate. He is a

:26:28.:26:32.

constituent together with his mother, and has lost his home and

:26:33.:26:38.

everything, because of a boundary dispute about offence, which was

:26:39.:26:43.

four inches out of place. The law in his case was an as, perversely, and

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it needs looking at again. We launched a public appeal in

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Southend, of the organisation, and it is wonderful, the valuable

:26:59.:27:01.

artefacts that are being rescued from the Thames Estuary. Pulse

:27:02.:27:06.

fishing is an issue which has been brought to my attention by Leigh on

:27:07.:27:13.

Sea fishermen and I don't think fish enjoy terribly much having these

:27:14.:27:16.

pulses sent through their bodies and I do hope the minister responsible

:27:17.:27:21.

for fisheries when he comes to meet myself and others will look very

:27:22.:27:22.

carefully at the issue. Eastwood academy is one of the

:27:23.:27:31.

outstanding. It achieved magnificent progress in all levels and the

:27:32.:27:37.

academy was selected to appear in the parliamentary review 2016 for

:27:38.:27:41.

its efforts at raising standards in secondary education. I was delighted

:27:42.:27:46.

to support gas safety week. There have been over 20 deaths and over

:27:47.:27:51.

1,000 gas-related injuries in the past three years. I recently met

:27:52.:28:00.

Jesuits from the Philippines who spoke to me about the inspiring work

:28:01.:28:08.

their organisation SLB, it promotes sews I do political involvement and

:28:09.:28:12.

has led to relieve operation. I commend them for their work. Angela

:28:13.:28:18.

rusk incelebrates 25 years of status. I met with the Chancellor

:28:19.:28:24.

who briefed me on their plans for the next 25 years, and degrees aimed

:28:25.:28:29.

at increasing the number of doctors and nurses to fill vacancies in the

:28:30.:28:33.

NHS. Marine protection zones are very important and the UK has a

:28:34.:28:38.

reputation of being a leader in the ocean conservation. I do

:28:39.:28:44.

congratulate them on the issues. And ending with a very few local issues.

:28:45.:28:51.

I congratulate the third generation family owned manufacturing business

:28:52.:28:54.

for sustaining their operation for 50 years. I was delighted to visit

:28:55.:28:59.

pride and joy classic cars in my constituency. I congratulate the

:29:00.:29:06.

walker witness for climate change local activist and congratulate

:29:07.:29:08.

acting ageing event which was held in my constituency, it was a

:29:09.:29:14.

privilege to also visit The Prince's Trust explore enterprise programme

:29:15.:29:16.

and congratulate the young people on the wonderful work which they are

:29:17.:29:27.

doing. I also visited Angloco, they are doing marvellous work in

:29:28.:29:31.

delivering 45 new fire engines to Essex fire and rescue and I also had

:29:32.:29:35.

the opportunity to visit pinewood studios, I am still waiting for a

:29:36.:29:41.

casting, but they're going to help me with the alternative city of

:29:42.:29:47.

culture. I finally had very good visits to the Philippines where one

:29:48.:29:51.

of our colleagues took us to Smokey mountain. A humbling experience and

:29:52.:29:57.

the Dominican Republic, who are very, very keen on doing further

:29:58.:30:03.

trade with us. So, Brexit does mean Brexit and I hope that we will all

:30:04.:30:10.

make a success of it. I wish the three deputies, all parliamentary

:30:11.:30:13.

colleagues and everyone who works in the House of Commons a very happy

:30:14.:30:16.

Christmas, good health and a wonderful new year.

:30:17.:30:25.

Thank you. It's always a pleasure to follow my friend the honourable

:30:26.:30:31.

member for Southend who represents probably arguably the second best

:30:32.:30:36.

seaside resort on the east coast. Before I move on to the more mundane

:30:37.:30:43.

issues by comparison to others spoken about, could I say how much I

:30:44.:30:49.

agree with the comments made by the member for Beckenham. I think he

:30:50.:30:54.

spoke for the feelings of the whole House on that particular matter.

:30:55.:31:00.

Also the member from Strangford who reminded us of the real message of

:31:01.:31:07.

Christmas, like many members I have attended a number of services of

:31:08.:31:12.

nine lessons and Carols over the last couple of weeks and it includes

:31:13.:31:17.

the opening passages from St John's gospel and something that I always

:31:18.:31:21.

found profound is how Jesus came into the world, but the world knew

:31:22.:31:31.

him not. It's often the case that we reflect on the more perverted

:31:32.:31:37.

religious happenings in the news and we should remember the true meaning

:31:38.:31:42.

and also the fact that faith is the driving force for so much good that

:31:43.:31:49.

happens in the world and I commend the honourable member for that. I

:31:50.:31:55.

want to reflect on some more mundane issues that affect my constituency

:31:56.:32:00.

and highlight some of the changes and challenges facing it. In doing

:32:01.:32:04.

so I am mindful I don't want to give the impression that I am here just

:32:05.:32:07.

to put a begging bowl out to the Government for more money for this,

:32:08.:32:11.

that and the other, of course it would be very welcome, the resort of

:32:12.:32:17.

Cleethorpes has responded to the changing situation and it has on

:32:18.:32:21.

offer I would argue that is unsurpassed amongst resorts on the

:32:22.:32:25.

east coast. Only last week one of the three finalists in the British

:32:26.:32:32.

high street awards was with the traders from Seaview Street in

:32:33.:32:38.

Cleethorpes and that shows how dedicated small independent

:32:39.:32:42.

retailers can be. Of course, my honourable friend from Southend

:32:43.:32:46.

talked about the longest pier, we of course have the Pier of the Year. A

:32:47.:32:51.

prize which was certainly not going to be giving up easily to Southend,

:32:52.:32:56.

however cultured it may or may not be. My constituency also contains

:32:57.:33:04.

the largest port complex in the country and has a rich rural

:33:05.:33:10.

hinterland stretching north to the southern end of the Humber bridge.

:33:11.:33:14.

So much for the advantages and how are we going to meet the challenges.

:33:15.:33:19.

Regeneration is an essential ingredients of lifting morale and in

:33:20.:33:23.

north-east Lincolnshire the council area we have put together a team

:33:24.:33:27.

made up of the council leader, chief executive, myself and a number of

:33:28.:33:30.

private sector partners who are putting together plans that I am

:33:31.:33:35.

sure will attract private sector investors. That will need some

:33:36.:33:39.

Government support. I discussed this with a number of ministers in recent

:33:40.:33:45.

weeks and we do hope to receive that support when plans are finalised.

:33:46.:33:51.

This is not just a begging bowl but a genuine attempt to inject

:33:52.:33:53.

investment into the area. Cleethorpes has done incredibly well

:33:54.:34:05.

as I presentationed. Can I draw attention to local Government

:34:06.:34:09.

funding. I recognise that local Government was bloated and to some

:34:10.:34:14.

extent inefficient. I spent 26 years as a local councillor. I have seen

:34:15.:34:20.

many of its failings. But I think the Government do need to recognise

:34:21.:34:24.

that council budgets can only be cut so far and I am not here referring

:34:25.:34:30.

to adult social care, important though that is, but many of the

:34:31.:34:34.

things that make our lives that little bit better, the libraries,

:34:35.:34:44.

the parks, gardens, and so on, are actually being cut to the bone in

:34:45.:34:48.

many respects. There is little things that do improve the quality

:34:49.:34:53.

of life. We need those and we do enjoy them. I would urge the

:34:54.:35:00.

Government to recognise that as we try and come to terms with balancing

:35:01.:35:06.

the country's finances. House something rightly a priority for the

:35:07.:35:09.

Government and they've introduced many new and innovative schemes but

:35:10.:35:13.

too many homes are being built on green field sites. The main entrance

:35:14.:35:19.

to a town like Cleethorpes could be greatly enhanced by investment in

:35:20.:35:24.

what due to a change in shopping habits, redundant retail units being

:35:25.:35:30.

given new life, it's a main arterial route into the resort and investment

:35:31.:35:35.

in an area like that is very worthwhile. While on the subject of

:35:36.:35:42.

housing, I note the section in the community Secretary's financial

:35:43.:35:45.

statement last Thursday saying that consultation would be held on

:35:46.:35:49.

whether or not to withhold new homes bonus payments from developments

:35:50.:35:53.

that were granted only after appeal. I can give my response to that

:35:54.:36:00.

consultation now. Forget it. Local democracy is important. The

:36:01.:36:04.

Government has done a lot to bring about localism and this is something

:36:05.:36:09.

that goes completely against that. I would really urge them to think

:36:10.:36:14.

again and abandon even the consultation. Transport connections

:36:15.:36:19.

are of course vitally important to any local economy and my

:36:20.:36:26.

constituency is no exception. It's moderately well served by road, the

:36:27.:36:34.

A180 and M1 link provides access to the national motorway network. There

:36:35.:36:38.

is room for improvement and the A180 itself has stretches of the old

:36:39.:36:47.

concrete surface which is extremely annoying to my constituents living

:36:48.:36:52.

in some villages, it causes an unacceptable level of noise. I

:36:53.:37:00.

welcome the almost complete ?100 million plus A160 upgrade that will

:37:01.:37:04.

access access to the port. But the next part of the jigsaw, the network

:37:05.:37:11.

of roads that give access to the ports is the A15 between Lincoln and

:37:12.:37:17.

where it joins the A180 close to Scunthorpe is extremely dangerous

:37:18.:37:20.

single carriageway road and it urgently needs dualing. I recognise

:37:21.:37:24.

that it's a local road and therefore all the Government could get out of

:37:25.:37:28.

saying it's nothing to do with us, guv. But the reality is it is an

:37:29.:37:37.

important access to the Humber ports, that's a strategic Government

:37:38.:37:40.

policy and therefore I think the Government do need to give some

:37:41.:37:46.

consideration to that. Turning to rail services, and it's yet another

:37:47.:37:52.

opportunity for me to highlight the urgent need for a direct rail

:37:53.:37:56.

service between Grimsby and Cleethorpes and London King's Cross.

:37:57.:38:01.

Businesses in the area regard it as vital. At every meeting I and

:38:02.:38:05.

neighbouring MPs attend this issue is brought up. Immingham is the

:38:06.:38:11.

largest port in the country, 25% of the rail freight in the country

:38:12.:38:16.

comes and goes to Immingham but passengers can't. The area does need

:38:17.:38:23.

that. The office of rail and road recently considered an application

:38:24.:38:27.

from great north eastern, an open access operator, who wanted to

:38:28.:38:31.

provide those services but because it was linked to additional services

:38:32.:38:35.

into Yorkshire they had to reject it because they have to protect virgin

:38:36.:38:40.

east coast market share. Now I can recognise how important that is from

:38:41.:38:44.

the Treasury's point of view, they pay an enormous amount of money for

:38:45.:38:47.

the privilege of running those trains but I would genuinely ask is

:38:48.:38:51.

that actually more to do with the interests of the company and the

:38:52.:38:56.

Treasury rather than the interests of the passengers? On regeneration,

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I do myself chair the regeneration committee for Barton on Humber,

:39:05.:39:09.

that's in the north Lincolnshire council part of my constituency and

:39:10.:39:16.

I must congratulate the deputy leader of north Lincolnshire council

:39:17.:39:20.

who sits alongside me at those meetings and does actually deliver

:39:21.:39:27.

some of the minor improvements to the town which are essential and I

:39:28.:39:32.

know that somewhat goes against what I was saying earlier but I question

:39:33.:39:36.

how long even a well-run council such as north Lincolnshire will be

:39:37.:39:41.

able to maintain those schemes. Turning to the rural areas I would

:39:42.:39:46.

remind the House that the rural economy is not just about

:39:47.:39:50.

agriculture but other rural pursuits and it's important that we recognise

:39:51.:39:56.

that conservation does come naturally to those who work in the

:39:57.:40:02.

countryside. Finally, can I just reflect on the education performance

:40:03.:40:08.

in our area. Like many coastal communities we do have many high

:40:09.:40:17.

performing schools but we also have overall poor standards. The argument

:40:18.:40:22.

about selection is one that's going to run and run as it has for the

:40:23.:40:29.

last 30-odd years. My own view is that if selection can provide young

:40:30.:40:36.

people with more choice within the schools in the area, that actually

:40:37.:40:41.

provide for them and we should focus on the areas where resorts demand

:40:42.:40:46.

change. Grammar schools can be a force for good and for some it's an

:40:47.:40:50.

opportunity that we should not deny them. In my own local area I would

:40:51.:41:00.

also argue that bilaterial schools that are part-selected have a role

:41:01.:41:08.

to play. I think I will conclude there, merely by following on from

:41:09.:41:11.

the honourable member for Southend who spoke about Brexit. 70% of my

:41:12.:41:18.

constituents voted for Brexit. I believe they were the right to do

:41:19.:41:24.

so. I believe it will give our country more opportunities and in

:41:25.:41:30.

our own particular area the common fisheries policy has long been a

:41:31.:41:34.

cause for concern. Could I urge the Government as I have done on

:41:35.:41:37.

previous occasions not to forget the fishing industry. It was forgotten

:41:38.:41:42.

in those original negotiations in the 1970s. At a time when up to 600

:41:43.:41:50.

deep sea trawlers at one time sailed out of Grimsby, providing thousands

:41:51.:41:54.

of jobs to the Grimsby and Cleethorpes area, that's now down to

:41:55.:41:58.

a handful of near water boats but there are still great opportunities

:41:59.:42:02.

for those in the fishing industry and for the food and fish processing

:42:03.:42:08.

industry that are absolutely vital to the Cleethorpes constituency.

:42:09.:42:11.

With that I conclude by wishing you and all members and staff a happy

:42:12.:42:14.

Christmas and a peaceful new year. Thank you.

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James Berry. I start by thanking the work of all the emergency services

:42:20.:42:27.

over the Christmas period, especially those who will be working

:42:28.:42:32.

while we are enjoying time with our families, and since I propose to

:42:33.:42:35.

speak on home affairs I pay tribute to the police. I was out on a walk

:42:36.:42:41.

the Met session just last week and saw the excellent work they do for

:42:42.:42:47.

us everyday. Kingston is the safest borough in London and I want to

:42:48.:42:52.

thank Chief Superintendent who retires as the Kingston, borough

:42:53.:43:01.

commander very soon. There was a campaign for more police officers in

:43:02.:43:04.

Kingston town centre and ended with a campaign for more automatic number

:43:05.:43:12.

plate recognition is on the 83 corridor, both of which is

:43:13.:43:16.

delivering. I want to talk about a national problem for the police, the

:43:17.:43:26.

rise of hate speech and extremism online, and I will refer to Twitter

:43:27.:43:29.

and Facebook because they are the most famous social networks, and not

:43:30.:43:36.

the only ones. Social media has revolutionised the way we

:43:37.:43:38.

communicate and receive news and information and the way companies

:43:39.:43:44.

advertise and undoubtedly it can be used as a force for good but social

:43:45.:43:50.

media platforms are being abused by those who wish to do people greater

:43:51.:43:58.

harm. These social media platforms are not established and maintained

:43:59.:44:02.

out of a sense of altruism, but they are designed to make money for their

:44:03.:44:10.

zone -- their owners, and the revenues from Facebook in particular

:44:11.:44:13.

are enormous, although I don't criticise them for that. In less

:44:14.:44:17.

than one minute any member of this House with a iPhone would be able to

:44:18.:44:27.

find copious amounts of hate speech, racism, Islamophobia, homophobia,

:44:28.:44:33.

many types of discrimination, and language which is downright abusive

:44:34.:44:36.

and would not survive our criminal law. In the home affairs let

:44:37.:44:45.

committees recent report we outlined how our Jewish colleague received

:44:46.:44:50.

2500 abusive tweets over the course of a few days using the hashtag...

:44:51.:45:06.

Using that hashtag is offensive, abusive and racist, but if you

:45:07.:45:09.

search for the hashtag now as I did a few moments ago, you will find it

:45:10.:45:15.

still on Twitter, not from two hours ago, but from two years ago. I say

:45:16.:45:22.

that is a disgrace and especially a disgrace after the matter has been

:45:23.:45:27.

raised by a committee of this House. Although hate speech makes up a very

:45:28.:45:30.

small proportion of the overall traffic on social media, when we

:45:31.:45:38.

live our lives more and more online, and this speech exists online in a

:45:39.:45:43.

way it doesn't in the street and the way in which we speak to one

:45:44.:45:48.

another, there's a risk it becomes normalised and it gives a licence to

:45:49.:45:54.

others to repeat it and to do worse. I turned to the other issue which is

:45:55.:46:00.

extremism. It doesn't stop hate speech, just as social media is used

:46:01.:46:04.

by people who want to advertise holidays and beauty products, is

:46:05.:46:08.

also used by those who want to advertise terrorism. It is knowing

:46:09.:46:15.

said duration to say that -- it is no is a duration -- it is no

:46:16.:46:23.

exaggeration to say that Daesh has run the greatest PR campaign since

:46:24.:46:36.

Goebbels with the Nazis. It is a barbarous medieval regime. It has

:46:37.:46:41.

committed atrocities like we have seen in France and what we appear to

:46:42.:46:47.

have seen in Berlin, but I would not blame all of this on social media,

:46:48.:46:50.

but I am going to say that young people in Britain are being

:46:51.:46:54.

radicalised in their bedrooms and the gateway to much of the radical

:46:55.:46:59.

material online is the common social media platforms like Twitter and

:47:00.:47:04.

Facebook, and in addition to being a Condo it there which extremists are

:47:05.:47:06.

being recruited -- Condo it. We have social media platforms being

:47:07.:47:18.

used by millions of people, every minute of every day, being used or

:47:19.:47:23.

abused by people who want to peddle extremism and hate. What do social

:47:24.:47:30.

media companies do about this? The answer is far too little and I've

:47:31.:47:34.

not heard one member of this House demur from that proposition. I'm not

:47:35.:47:41.

sure that we as a society should accept the proposition that

:47:42.:47:45.

organisations like social media companies can create something to

:47:46.:47:51.

make money that has the potential to do or at least facilitate harm, but

:47:52.:47:55.

it would be unreasonable to expect them to do more to prevent that

:47:56.:47:59.

harm. I would say the polluter should pay. Who is left to pick up

:48:00.:48:05.

the pieces? The police with the Home Affairs Select Committee, and the

:48:06.:48:11.

member for Leicester East, we went to Scotland Yard, to see they unit,

:48:12.:48:18.

dozens of officers who went through social networking sites to flag up

:48:19.:48:22.

this material and not really for any law enforcement purpose. They are

:48:23.:48:26.

not there to apply for a court order, but they are merely telling

:48:27.:48:32.

Twitter that this violates their own in-house terms of use and often to

:48:33.:48:36.

their credit Twitter will remove the material. Why should the police have

:48:37.:48:43.

to do it? In the hay there is a similar unit for non-English

:48:44.:48:48.

language material. -- in the Hague. Why should my constituents have to

:48:49.:48:52.

have their taxes used to fund our police to do the work that social

:48:53.:48:55.

media companies should be doing themselves? By father passed away

:48:56.:49:00.

three years ago this week and he was fond of quoting Margaret Thatcher --

:49:01.:49:06.

my father. She did not like people coming to her with problems without

:49:07.:49:10.

coming to her with a solution. So I will present three solutions. The

:49:11.:49:16.

first is to consider legislation, the most straightforward approach

:49:17.:49:19.

will be to make social media companies liable for what they are

:49:20.:49:24.

now or enabled to be published on their platforms, and father reasons

:49:25.:49:26.

including libel and copyright law, this would be devastating the social

:49:27.:49:31.

media companies, they do not want it to happen -- and for other reasons.

:49:32.:49:36.

In Germany last week it was announced by the government they

:49:37.:49:39.

would consider legislation for fines of up to half a million Euros if

:49:40.:49:46.

social media companies failed to remove hate speech breaching German

:49:47.:49:52.

laws within 24 hours, so our friends in Europe are considering

:49:53.:49:56.

legislation. The second option is to encourage social action, social

:49:57.:50:02.

media companies rely on people being members of them to see the

:50:03.:50:05.

advertising they make money from, so if we voted with our feet the

:50:06.:50:09.

companies would not be able to survive and if we made it clear as

:50:10.:50:15.

users of social media companies as almost all of us are, that we are

:50:16.:50:19.

not going to stand for eight speech and extremism, that would send a

:50:20.:50:24.

very clear message. -- hate speech. The third option which I favour,

:50:25.:50:28.

that social networking companies, social media companies, get their

:50:29.:50:32.

own house in order and take responsibility and for once show

:50:33.:50:38.

some real leadership. Social media companies could establish or at

:50:39.:50:43.

least fund a not-for-profit organisation which employs people to

:50:44.:50:47.

identify and remove offending posts, that uses their technological

:50:48.:50:51.

brilliance to be able to filter out this material for manual checking

:50:52.:50:56.

and which has police officers paid for by this organisation to gather

:50:57.:50:59.

intelligence and to progress any cases that need legal input. There

:51:00.:51:06.

is a model for this in the national centre for missing exploited

:51:07.:51:09.

children which I had the fortune to visit in Washington, DC,

:51:10.:51:14.

not-for-profit organisation funded by the technology centre and in

:51:15.:51:19.

large part by Facebook and Google to tackle amongst other things online

:51:20.:51:24.

child exploitation. Why can that not apply to hate speech online? I

:51:25.:51:31.

suggest social media companies go away for Christmas and comeback in

:51:32.:51:34.

the New Year with a proper proposal for an organisation of this kind so

:51:35.:51:40.

they can tackle online extremism and hate speech and if they'd do so they

:51:41.:51:45.

will know that they should expect to be scrutinised -- and if they do not

:51:46.:51:51.

do so. And they will be concerted calls for legislation to make them

:51:52.:51:56.

do so in 2017. On that note, Merry Christmas and a happy New Year. Mr

:51:57.:52:04.

Keith Vaz. It is a pleasure to follow the honourable man before

:52:05.:52:12.

Kingston who gave an excellent speech and he's right you have

:52:13.:52:15.

raised the which are occurring on the internet to do with extremism

:52:16.:52:21.

and hate crime -- he's right to have raised. I was feeding my own debate

:52:22.:52:29.

on the tragic death of the 15-year-old boy who committed

:52:30.:52:34.

suicide because of the bullying he had experienced on the internet, the

:52:35.:52:39.

cyber bullying that occurred, and I'm glad his parents are in the

:52:40.:52:46.

chamber today as they were only in Westminster Hall. -- I was leading

:52:47.:52:52.

my own debate. There have been a succession of reports by the Home

:52:53.:52:56.

Affairs Select Committee and one of those co-authored by the deputy

:52:57.:52:59.

leader of the House who has been promoted since. To his August

:53:00.:53:06.

position. The tragedy, it is not followed up, there's always an

:53:07.:53:11.

excuse given. His example of an organisation that is funded by these

:53:12.:53:16.

companies and therefore able to monitor in a professional way what

:53:17.:53:19.

is going on rather than people ringing up and try to find who in

:53:20.:53:23.

California they should speak to in order to get something off the net

:53:24.:53:26.

is a very good one and rather than serving the Home Affairs Select

:53:27.:53:29.

Committee he should be giving evidence to it on this important

:53:30.:53:33.

point and I hope he will put that forward to the committee when they

:53:34.:53:38.

next meet. I want to raise a few of my passions at this traditional

:53:39.:53:44.

debate, in a few moments, that I have to speak. I'm glad to see the

:53:45.:53:52.

parents here of Brandon, and I hope this debate will lead to them being

:53:53.:54:01.

able to pursue their important campaign on cyber bullying which

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they launched a couple of weeks ago and that they will continue, when

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you lose a child of 15 and some of us are parents in this House, and it

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must be an unspeakable tragedy for them. This campaign will give hope

:54:15.:54:21.

to other families who are on a similar position. The member for

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Kingston and Surbiton mentioned the support for his local police service

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and I hope that when the deputy leader comes to reply he will give

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us good news about one issue which concerns me which is the failure of

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the government to announce the police funding formula for not just

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Leicestershire Constabulary and police services throughout the

:54:47.:54:50.

country. The former policing minister said the review had been

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paused until the national police chief counsel 's had completed their

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investigation into the capabilities that they had as far as policing is

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concerned. Sarah Thornton is the chair of the Council and she has

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said there's nothing to stop the review proceeding. It will be good

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to know when Constabulary is like Leicestershire and Kingston, and

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indeed in Northern Ireland, although you might have a different formula,

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that we are able to know precisely how much money the police have got

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to spend in future. As is my custom, I want to mention diabetes again. I

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would be missing this opportunity if I didn't, and there is a time of the

:55:49.:55:56.

year when people eat a lot of sugar and mince pies and cakes and things

:55:57.:56:07.

of that kind, as I have just done. I will compensate for that very

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shortly. LAUGHTER It is important to look at the

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variations of care in diabetes, UK diabetes published a very

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interesting report with the all-party group which I'm very

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honoured to check, launched by the Health Secretary, where we pointed

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out that in certain parts of the country you can get structured

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education and care but in other parts you are not. When I was

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diagnosed with type two diabetes, if I were sent instead of the pharmacy,

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to get my other tablets, I was sent to the gym, and maybe that would

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have prevented the onset, which would have, eventually, because my

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mother had diabetes, but it would have prevented out a bit longer

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diabetes taking hold of my system. -- which would have come eventually.

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We need to save in the long-term by spending more money now and that

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through structured education. A number of my constituents will be

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helding off to India because the Indian Government has decided to

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recall the 1,000 rupee note which is about ?10 and the 5500 note as part

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of a campaign to route out corruption in India. However, a

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number of British Indians came back with rupees when they were last

:57:31.:57:33.

visiting the country, I don't know about members of the House but when

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you go abroad you change your money and sometimes you bring it back with

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you. A lot of my constituents and indeed other members of the British

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Indian community are in a position where they are having to change

:57:50.:57:55.

their money by the 31st December, so a lot have decided to go back in

:57:56.:57:59.

order to bag their money quickly before it ceases to be legal tender,

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it's as if we have gone abroad with ?20 notes and suddenly the British

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Government announcing ?20 are no longer legal tender, please come

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back and bank them before 31st December. I wrote to the Governor of

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the Bank of England, he wrote back to me and told me he was happy if

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the Indian Government agreed that the rupees could be banked in an ind

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yant bank in the United Kingdom to save British Indian constituents and

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others having to go all the way back to India. A lot of cricket

:58:31.:58:33.

supporters have gone to India for the cricket match, they've changed

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their pounds into rupees, they can't change them back as it's going to

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cease to be legal tender. This is a good way of proceeding. I wonder if

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the deputy leader could speak to the Foreign Secretary, I did write to

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him sometime ago suggesting to the Government that perhaps they could

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contact the Indian Government and allow these coins and notes to be

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banked in banks in the United Kingdom. I have eight Indian banks

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in Leicester east, I am sure in Northampton north he may have one or

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two but this is an opportunity to save a lot of money for people

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having to go all the way over there to put their money in the bank. Two

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final points, one of course about Yemen, the tragedy in Syria, the

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tragedies that have occurred in Berlin, the assassination in Turkey

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are terrible, terrible events which I think shocked the whole world but

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the situation in Yemen has now been ongoing for 15 months. You kiently

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granted an urgent question last week when we looked at the situation in

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Yemen. The situation is not improving. The basic foods are not

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available as I said to the Prime Minister when she came back from the

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European Council on Monday and gave her statement. Citizens are eating

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grass and drinking sea water. The ports are closed. The airport is

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closed. So wheat cannot be brought into Yemen and without wheat people

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are not going to be able to survive. It's not a lack of aid. Again I want

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to thank you, MrSpeaker, you came to Yemen Day last week where we met

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with aid agencies there, together with the Minister of State for the

:00:32.:00:34.

department of international development and the Foreign Office

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Minister, we heard from the UN deputy Secretary General. The fact

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is unless you open the ports and the airport you can't get humanitarian

:00:46.:00:51.

aid in. The disaster appeal launched last week by the joint committee on

:00:52.:00:56.

emergencies on the BBC has raised a lot of money but there's no point in

:00:57.:01:01.

having the money, it has to be spent on the people in Yemen and other

:01:02.:01:08.

parts of that country and I hope very much that we will pursue the

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cause of a ceasefire. MrSpeaker, finally, let me say I will remember

:01:17.:01:20.

2016 as a good year, there are lots of reasons why I might not remember

:01:21.:01:24.

it as a particularly riveting year, but one I will and that is the

:01:25.:01:33.

victory of Leicester City football club as the English champions and

:01:34.:01:39.

this is one of those great events. I am not going to say that will never

:01:40.:01:43.

happen again because we know what happened to Gary Lineker and full

:01:44.:01:47.

marks to him for wearing his underwear as he promised to do when

:01:48.:01:55.

he lost his bet with the nation. My honourable friend the member from

:01:56.:01:58.

Strangford is a Leicester City supporter. He is a Foxes supporter

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and every time I go to a match at Kingpower stadium I bring him back a

:02:08.:02:11.

programme and people wonder why am I taking two programmes, I always say

:02:12.:02:14.

it's for him, so he has a collection if not better than mine. There are a

:02:15.:02:18.

number of other members of the House who support Leicester City football

:02:19.:02:21.

club, this was our year. A fantastic year. That's why I was so pleased

:02:22.:02:28.

that MrRanieri only on Sunday was named as the coach of the year and

:02:29.:02:32.

Leicester City football club was the team of the year. So this 2016 is an

:02:33.:02:39.

historic year for us, a letter that we will never, ever forget. -- a

:02:40.:02:46.

year that we will never, ever forget and probably never repeat.

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Arsenal... I was going to say something about Arsenal. Because the

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Speaker is a great supporter of Arsenal. Every time what unites us

:02:55.:02:59.

is of course we don't really want to see Chelsea win the league, I don't

:03:00.:03:03.

think. I think it's Arsenal's turn. Every time we see Arsenal getting to

:03:04.:03:08.

the top of the Premier League something goes wrong. This year we

:03:09.:03:16.

keep our fingers crossed, not just for MrSpeaker but for young Oliver

:03:17.:03:20.

who can repeat the team backwards and forwards at a blink of an eye.

:03:21.:03:26.

We would like to share it, of course we could carry on winning the

:03:27.:03:29.

Premier League, but it's only fair we should give it to another team.

:03:30.:03:34.

Of course we are in the Champions League and I will this week be

:03:35.:03:40.

placing my bet on Leicester winning the Champions League because I am

:03:41.:03:45.

quite hopeful that we will proceed and that's what 2017 will be all

:03:46.:03:50.

about for me. Can I end by wishing you, Mr Speaker, the staff of the

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House, the deputy leader, ministers, fellow colleagues, on all sides of

:03:56.:04:00.

the House, a very happy Christmas. There was an old tradition, I

:04:01.:04:04.

understand, I wonder if - whoever wound up the debate for the

:04:05.:04:08.

Government always ensured that every member still in the House when the

:04:09.:04:12.

House rose for the Christmas recess would get a mince pie. I don't know

:04:13.:04:19.

whether you have heard of that particular story but one of the

:04:20.:04:23.

door-keepers mentioned it to me so I am very much looking forward to

:04:24.:04:26.

visiting the rooms of the deputy leader of the House and getting the

:04:27.:04:32.

mince pie at the end but let's hope we get a great new 2017 where all

:04:33.:04:38.

our ambitions and our dreams can be fulfilled. Thank you very much, Mr

:04:39.:04:45.

Speaker. It's a pleasure to follow the right honourable gentleman,

:04:46.:04:49.

although I speak as an Arsenal supporter like you, Mr Speaker, but

:04:50.:04:54.

congratulate Leicester City on their fine achievement this year. At the

:04:55.:04:57.

beginning of last week I was with the parliament choir in Berlin and

:04:58.:05:08.

it was a great honour to sing in the building of the Bundestag and it's

:05:09.:05:13.

with great sadness we hear of this terrible event last night and I know

:05:14.:05:18.

my honourable friend was there with a committee and will wish to pass on

:05:19.:05:22.

condolences to the people of Germany. Stafford this year has seen

:05:23.:05:30.

some great developments, economically, General Electric that

:05:31.:05:34.

took over one business in Stafford and other places have almost

:05:35.:05:41.

completed the construction of their first new factory which contains

:05:42.:05:45.

autoation and after the referendum they decided to go ahead with the

:05:46.:05:49.

construction of their second new factory in Stafford on the Redhill

:05:50.:05:56.

business park which deals with high voltage direct current business in

:05:57.:06:00.

which Stafford is a world leader and I very much welcome that. I also

:06:01.:06:06.

very much welcome the investment by a Chinese institution into the

:06:07.:06:11.

Stafford, former university campus which they vacated to go to

:06:12.:06:16.

Stoke-on-Trent earlier this year. A new university will be established

:06:17.:06:21.

in Stafford alongside an international school and I very much

:06:22.:06:27.

welcome that, the continuance of higher education in Stafford which

:06:28.:06:31.

is also continued through the medical school and Staffordshire

:06:32.:06:33.

University who maintain another campus in the town. It was also

:06:34.:06:38.

announced this year that the Ministry of Defence would further

:06:39.:06:45.

expand their site in Stafford to welcome more servicemen and women in

:06:46.:06:48.

the coming years and I very much welcome that. Stafford has a great

:06:49.:06:53.

tradition of hosting the Armed Forces, both the RAF and the Army

:06:54.:06:59.

and the arrival last year of two new regiments, one signals and 16

:07:00.:07:03.

signals to join 22 signals, has made a great and positive difference to

:07:04.:07:10.

our town. We are also seeing the expansion of our IT sector in

:07:11.:07:14.

Stafford and indeed of a lot of other small and medium businesses

:07:15.:07:18.

and I want to pay particular tribute to small and medium businesses now

:07:19.:07:22.

at Christmas time because these are the people who year in, year out

:07:23.:07:29.

often work 60, 70, 80 hours a week, running businesses, employing

:07:30.:07:31.

people, paying their taxes, they don't get much sung about, they

:07:32.:07:35.

often have to deal with a lot of hassle but they get on with the job

:07:36.:07:44.

of providing jobs and of keeping this country going to a large

:07:45.:07:48.

extent, jobs are created and sustained through the small and

:07:49.:07:50.

medium businesses in all our constituencies. I want to say a

:07:51.:07:55.

little bit about the sustainability and transformation programme for

:07:56.:07:57.

Stoke-on-Trent and Staffordshire. I have already raised this in the

:07:58.:08:02.

House on a couple of occasions. I want to say that I approach this in

:08:03.:08:08.

a positive spirit. We do need a transformation of our care. There

:08:09.:08:13.

are many good ideas in it. I do wish that the programme to leadership had

:08:14.:08:16.

engaged more with Members of Parliament. We had one or two

:08:17.:08:22.

meetings but, sadly, the suggestions certainly that I put forward were

:08:23.:08:26.

not taken up and I believe that they need to listen much more to Members

:08:27.:08:30.

of Parliament as they take this further forward. I have already

:08:31.:08:33.

raised the question of the suggestion that one of the accident

:08:34.:08:37.

and emergency departments in Stoke and Staffordshire should close, I

:08:38.:08:44.

believe that's absolutely wrong and will not benefit my constituents nor

:08:45.:08:48.

indeed those of the other Members of Parliament in Stoke-on-Trent and

:08:49.:08:50.

Staffordshire and I will be taking that up as I did with the Secretary

:08:51.:08:54.

of State this morning at every opportunity but I do believe there

:08:55.:08:57.

are very positive things that we continue with and I urge them to

:08:58.:09:02.

engage with local Members of Parliament. But the issue that

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really concerns me, as indeed it does a lot of members, is social

:09:07.:09:10.

care. Staffordshire this week has had a warning that it is seeing

:09:11.:09:16.

closures of social care homes across the County in the private sector,

:09:17.:09:20.

because it's simply unaffordable for them to continue. What we have to

:09:21.:09:24.

remember is that some of this is a consequence of matters that have

:09:25.:09:29.

been going on for quite a long time. But some is also the consequence of

:09:30.:09:32.

the introduction of the minimum living wage. We are to bear in mind

:09:33.:09:37.

that most of those who work in the care sector are on or about levels

:09:38.:09:44.

of pay which are the minimum wage. They have received, rightly, a pay

:09:45.:09:49.

rise through the minimum living wage but there has not been the core

:09:50.:09:53.

respondent increase in the amount that is paid to care homes for the

:09:54.:09:59.

provision of services. We have also seen in Staffordshire this year the

:10:00.:10:02.

better care fund not working as it should have done. ?15 million was

:10:03.:10:07.

supposed to go into improvement in care. It has been retained within

:10:08.:10:11.

the health service for understandable reasons, but this has

:10:12.:10:16.

caused a great shortfall to the County Council. I hope that this

:10:17.:10:20.

will be to some extent recommend teed, certainly for the coming year,

:10:21.:10:24.

but we are facing a crisis in the funding of social care, indeed in

:10:25.:10:28.

the funding of health and social care and we need a long-term

:10:29.:10:32.

solution. Many members on all sides have raised this on a number of

:10:33.:10:35.

occasions, I certainly have over the last two or three years but the time

:10:36.:10:43.

has come for action. We can not have more sticking plaster recommend di.

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The announcements made by the Secretary of State were welcome and

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I support them but they are sticking plasters in the face of the sums of

:10:51.:10:58.

money which are required. I want to mention briefly transport in my

:10:59.:11:02.

area. I have asked in the past for the Secretary of State for transport

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to meet with me to discuss the road system in Staffordshire and

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particularly in Stafford and I do it for a couple of reasons. One is that

:11:10.:11:14.

we are shortly to have the improvements to the M6 between

:11:15.:11:19.

junction 13 and 15 which I welcome but inevitably those improvements

:11:20.:11:22.

which take at least two years will take at least two years will have a

:11:23.:11:26.

knock-on impact upon other roads in the area and we need to ensure that

:11:27.:11:31.

they are carried out in the most efishent and effective way with the

:11:32.:11:34.

least disruption but much more serious is the potential disruption

:11:35.:11:41.

to be caused by the construction of HS2, phase two-A if that passes

:11:42.:11:46.

these Houses of parliament in the coming 12 or 15 months. The route

:11:47.:11:53.

cuts across all the major transport, north-south transport routes in

:11:54.:11:55.

Staffordshire which are the national north-south routes in the west of

:11:56.:12:00.

the country. Unless we think about this well in advance, how it is

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going to be planned, when road closures are happening, when work is

:12:05.:12:10.

to be done and alternatives are planned well in advance, we will see

:12:11.:12:13.

chaos, not just for a couple of years, but for many years and I urge

:12:14.:12:18.

the Government to think about that in advance. I know they may say it

:12:19.:12:22.

hasn't passed parliament yet, we can't do anything about it until

:12:23.:12:25.

then, that is absolutely not the approach. We must think about it now

:12:26.:12:30.

because the consequences, not just for Staffordshire and Stoke but

:12:31.:12:33.

indeed for the entire West Midlands and north-west economy could be

:12:34.:12:34.

quite serious. Other matters in the House which I

:12:35.:12:44.

have raised, the issue of hoists border -- for disabled people. It

:12:45.:12:53.

was a surprise when a constituent of mine so it was not a requirement for

:12:54.:12:57.

major change of HS2 have hoists in a couple of rooms so disabled people

:12:58.:13:03.

could enjoy the benefits of staying in those hotels -- major chains of

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hotels. I would like to see a standard that in every hotel that is

:13:12.:13:15.

constructed in this country and indeed those that have already been

:13:16.:13:20.

built, above a certain size, that it is standard that some rooms would

:13:21.:13:25.

have those hoists available. I've also raised the issue of fireworks

:13:26.:13:31.

after the tragic loss of two lives in Staffordshire and the facilities

:13:32.:13:36.

that contain fireworks. It is extraordinary that the

:13:37.:13:43.

responsibility for inspecting facilities which can contain almost

:13:44.:13:48.

as much explosives or gunpowder as Guy Fawkes had when he wanted to

:13:49.:13:56.

blow up this place, they are regulated by local authorities, who

:13:57.:14:00.

might be very good at other things but simply do not have the expertise

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and I would like to see any major and by major I mean upwards of a few

:14:06.:14:09.

hundred kilos, possibly a few tens of kilos of explosives, to be

:14:10.:14:15.

regulated to the Health and Safety Executive who have the experience,

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possibly through the Fire and rescue authorities who have the experience

:14:18.:14:23.

to make judgments on these matters. We have a couple of weeks ago an

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excellent debate which I was privileged to lead on the ivory

:14:29.:14:35.

trade -- we had. And the request that the United Kingdom should and

:14:36.:14:41.

trade in ivory, having spent many years of my life in Tanzania which

:14:42.:14:44.

is now suffering huge depletion in its elephants this is a matter which

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is the request for me and I'd add the government is looking at this

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and we will have a consultation -- and I know the government. I hope we

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can see all I've -- ivory trade stopped in the UK with a few

:15:06.:15:09.

sensible exceptions. Finally, a couple of other issues, I want to

:15:10.:15:14.

raise the question of employment and support allowance for the

:15:15.:15:19.

work-related activity group, this is a matter that many colleagues on all

:15:20.:15:23.

sides have some concerns about, the government promised to come up with

:15:24.:15:28.

measures that would compensate the loss of the additional money coming

:15:29.:15:33.

in to people who start on that group from next April, and we have yet to

:15:34.:15:38.

hear concrete measures that I believe are satisfactory and I hope

:15:39.:15:40.

the government will take another look at this. I very pretty want to

:15:41.:15:46.

mention matters to do with international development and around

:15:47.:15:55.

Syria. -- I very quickly. I have seen the work UK Government is doing

:15:56.:15:58.

with the incredibly generous governments of the people of Lebanon

:15:59.:16:03.

and Jordan as well as Turkey and Egypt and Iraq. In hosting millions

:16:04.:16:11.

of refugees and providing education for their children, so much so that

:16:12.:16:14.

in Lebanon there are shortly to be more serene refugee children in

:16:15.:16:19.

their state schools and there are Lebanese children, this is an

:16:20.:16:22.

example of the excellent work which is done to the international

:16:23.:16:27.

development budget which has received criticism in the press in

:16:28.:16:30.

recent days and is quite right we should investigate all those issues,

:16:31.:16:35.

but we should never forget the great work that is done through that and

:16:36.:16:40.

the support that is given to these marvellous people who help people in

:16:41.:16:45.

the most difficult of circumstances, and with that I wish you and

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everyone a Merry Christmas and a placid year. Mike Wood. -- blessed

:16:50.:17:02.

New Year. I would like to add my agreement to the item is put forward

:17:03.:17:07.

by my friend from Stoke and my gallant friend for Beckenham. About

:17:08.:17:13.

the concerns that some of our servicemen seem to be treated more

:17:14.:17:18.

adversely than some suspected and indeed convicted terrorists. I hope

:17:19.:17:24.

those concerns are heard not only by the government but also by the

:17:25.:17:28.

devolved administrations in Northern Ireland. One of the joys of our

:17:29.:17:35.

roles as members of Parliament is being able to work with so many

:17:36.:17:38.

community organisations. All year round. Who do so much valuable work.

:17:39.:17:46.

For often the most vulnerable people in our society. During the

:17:47.:17:54.

volunteering week in the autumn I have the pleasure of spending some

:17:55.:17:59.

time with a range of organisations including age UK and the springboard

:18:00.:18:05.

centre, Black Country food bank, and a dimension unit at A -- dementia

:18:06.:18:20.

unit. In Christmas we value the role that our community organisations

:18:21.:18:22.

play but they do this work all year round. It is very difficult to pick

:18:23.:18:31.

out any individual examples above any others but it would be remiss of

:18:32.:18:36.

me not to highlight the work of Worsley community centre in my

:18:37.:18:40.

constituency, led by the formidable Janet Blakeway. And the work they

:18:41.:18:45.

have done to improve accessibility into the centre. I was able to

:18:46.:18:53.

launch their new stair lift which was made possible by the work Janet

:18:54.:19:00.

had done, bringing in local firms, solutions and handy care, to do the

:19:01.:19:07.

work for the local community, really transformed the services that were

:19:08.:19:13.

on offer. The buzzword of the big society might have passed into

:19:14.:19:19.

political history, but of course the work that so many unheralded

:19:20.:19:27.

volunteers and community organisations do every day of the

:19:28.:19:30.

week, every week of the year, continues, regardless of passing

:19:31.:19:37.

fads in our political lexicon. There are some who argue that in our self

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is age in which we are supposed to live that people are no longer

:19:43.:19:46.

interested in working for community -- selfish age. Or supporting good

:19:47.:19:53.

causes, but that is not the spirits I have had myself with the support

:19:54.:19:59.

for the Macmillan coffee morning or the community clean-ups we have had

:20:00.:20:06.

in Dudley South -- that is not the experience I have had. I hope the

:20:07.:20:13.

debited leader will make sure the government continues to look at how

:20:14.:20:16.

the government can make it easy for people to give up their time -- I

:20:17.:20:23.

hope the deputy leader. They can donate their resources and skills to

:20:24.:20:34.

help the communities around them. It is pleasing to see a growing number

:20:35.:20:39.

of friends groups, supporting local parks in green spaces, at a time

:20:40.:20:45.

when local authorities are having to look at how and where they are able

:20:46.:20:50.

to dedicate resources. Being able to see community is saying that these

:20:51.:20:54.

things are important to us, and going out and taking practical

:20:55.:20:58.

action with our societies. Most recently in Dudley South the friends

:20:59.:21:07.

of Cockbain park group was formed a month or so ago on a wet Wednesday

:21:08.:21:13.

evening, and still attracted 60 people from local estates, and that

:21:14.:21:17.

was in response to damage and disruption caused following an

:21:18.:21:25.

unauthorised traveller camp. The Black Country has seen an unusual

:21:26.:21:30.

number of unauthorised traveller camps over the summer and into the

:21:31.:21:36.

early autumn and many of these have been responsible and considerate to

:21:37.:21:40.

the local neighbours, but sadly there are some who have behaved

:21:41.:21:45.

criminally with disruption and criminal damage and police reports

:21:46.:21:51.

of robberies and indeed violent crimes as well. Whilst our local

:21:52.:21:57.

authorities in my own borough Dudley and also neighbouring boroughs have

:21:58.:22:03.

pursued successive magistrate court orders, but of course those who seek

:22:04.:22:11.

to take advantage of the system is known that means they have at least

:22:12.:22:14.

seven days before they need to worry about it. And so the effect has been

:22:15.:22:21.

that some of the less responsible and less considerate groups have

:22:22.:22:28.

just gone from one park or play area to the next, still causing the same

:22:29.:22:33.

damage and disruption at each. I would hope that the government would

:22:34.:22:40.

look again at both practical questions such as can a provision of

:22:41.:22:49.

land for traveller camps, authorised traveller camps, can that be work so

:22:50.:22:55.

that local authorities can come together to make sure there is

:22:56.:22:59.

adequate provision over a wide area rather than a single authority area.

:23:00.:23:05.

And also whether it is time to look at local authorities being able to

:23:06.:23:10.

designate particular land or categories of land as designated

:23:11.:23:22.

sites where I unauthorised camps would attract criminal penalties and

:23:23.:23:26.

the reality is that go with it, but we must always considered the

:23:27.:23:31.

genuine human rights of travelling communities. But they must be

:23:32.:23:36.

balanced with the legitimate rights of settled communities as well. This

:23:37.:23:46.

year I was really pleased that the former Chancellor of the Exchequer

:23:47.:23:51.

was able to announce the enterprise zone in my constituency had been

:23:52.:23:57.

approved. He announced that at the budget in March. We are still

:23:58.:24:02.

waiting for the final approval of the business case and I hope the

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deputy leader will make enquiries so that we can expect final approval

:24:08.:24:15.

very soon so that the new jobs and investment and hopefully the

:24:16.:24:20.

increased prosperity can come into my constituency and benefit not only

:24:21.:24:25.

those I represent but also those in neighbouring constituencies will

:24:26.:24:33.

stop the extension to the Metro network in the West Midlands, which

:24:34.:24:40.

the government has signed off on between Wednesbury and Brad hill in

:24:41.:24:44.

my constituency, that is now going ahead. It is being underwritten by

:24:45.:24:50.

the new West Midlands combined authority, meaning it can go ahead

:24:51.:24:55.

sooner than was expected and I hope the government will give serious

:24:56.:24:59.

consideration to extending that further onto Stourbridge so that the

:25:00.:25:06.

tram link can connect back with mainline rail networks and enjoy

:25:07.:25:14.

benefits, just to connectivity. The final thing I would like to raise

:25:15.:25:18.

before the House adjourns for the Christmas recess, working to make

:25:19.:25:24.

sure that everyone in our communities has the skills and

:25:25.:25:29.

knowledge they need to succeed. I've been lucky enough to be able to

:25:30.:25:33.

visit every school in my constituency since I was elected

:25:34.:25:41.

last May. And clearly there is much excellent teaching and school

:25:42.:25:45.

management around Dudley and the wider Black Country, and it is

:25:46.:25:49.

important I make that point, because my wife has returned to the

:25:50.:25:52.

classroom recently and I know she is listening. It could be a cold

:25:53.:25:57.

Christmas if I forget to emphasise that. As far as my own

:25:58.:26:03.

constituencies are concerned, the victors trust and one of the trust

:26:04.:26:12.

show how powerful schools working in partnership to drive up standards

:26:13.:26:18.

can be -- Invictus Games and one other trust. But in the wider Black

:26:19.:26:23.

Country wider concerns have been raised by Ofsted to the four Black

:26:24.:26:32.

Country authorities and children start below the national average in

:26:33.:26:36.

those authorities, and in general they slip further behind, sadly,

:26:37.:26:44.

across the Key stages 1-4. The performance is less good than

:26:45.:26:50.

similar local authorities with similar levels of deprivation

:26:51.:26:52.

elsewhere in the country, and we really need to look at how we can

:26:53.:26:59.

make sure that no child is left behind where ever they are in the

:27:00.:27:06.

country. Part of this must be that high performing schools and

:27:07.:27:09.

academies trust is our able to innovate so we have more diversity

:27:10.:27:13.

and tailored education provision within states cools. -- state

:27:14.:27:21.

schools. The victors trust which has one school in my constituency has

:27:22.:27:27.

plans for a specialist school which incorporates almost a military style

:27:28.:27:33.

curriculum along with core subjects, targeting those in danger of

:27:34.:27:37.

becoming disengaged with the education system. And I hope the

:27:38.:27:41.

government will give this serious consideration when that application

:27:42.:27:45.

is submitted. We do have a lot of talent within

:27:46.:27:58.

our local schools and I saw it recently when I received a letter

:27:59.:28:02.

from some about the scourge of modern slavery, this is an issue

:28:03.:28:05.

that I have taken up with ministers, it's an issue that I know the deputy

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leader himself has done a lot of work on in the past but the quality

:28:11.:28:16.

of that letter and the depth of understanding that they

:28:17.:28:19.

demonstrated, not only of the slave trade, of the early 19th century,

:28:20.:28:23.

the abolition of slavery in the United States and also how that

:28:24.:28:27.

affects our communities now was remarkable for primary school

:28:28.:28:32.

children. Finally, you will be aware of some of the talent in my

:28:33.:28:35.

constituency, I hope in the Christmas card that you will have

:28:36.:28:42.

received showcasing the artistic talents in particular of some

:28:43.:28:52.

finalists, Alex and Lucy, William and Millie and Tia, Thomas and

:28:53.:29:01.

Reggie, I am delighted that not only were those seven excellent entries

:29:02.:29:06.

able to go on the Christmas card, but into a large shopping centre in

:29:07.:29:10.

my constituency who was so impressed with the standard of all the entries

:29:11.:29:16.

they've put them on display so that people doing their last-minute

:29:17.:29:19.

Christmas shopping can see how many talented artists we have in Dudley

:29:20.:29:23.

South so I think that's a good point at which to finish and to wish you

:29:24.:29:30.

again a very merry Christmas, Mr Speaker and best wishes for the new

:29:31.:29:35.

year. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I want to speak today about one issue of

:29:36.:29:39.

great concern which is how negatively the proposed new national

:29:40.:29:44.

funding formula for schools will impact on schools in my Congleton

:29:45.:29:48.

constituency if it is not revised and it is critical for the children

:29:49.:29:53.

of my constituency that it is. Prior to the announcement last week my

:29:54.:29:57.

constituency schools were already amongst the poorest funded in the

:29:58.:30:02.

country. So we expected a good funding increase. But after that

:30:03.:30:07.

announcement head teachers tell me theirs will be the very worst funded

:30:08.:30:13.

schools in the country. The most poorly funded local authority used

:30:14.:30:21.

to be ?4158 per head but this will now be Cheshire east at ?4122.

:30:22.:30:27.

Imagine my heads consternation last week when they discovered their

:30:28.:30:31.

funding will not actually increase, but drop. I use the word

:30:32.:30:36.

consternation, they have used the word outrage. No wonder that within

:30:37.:30:41.

48 hours of the announcement no less than five head teachers came to my

:30:42.:30:45.

constituency office to express their utter dismay. A year ago, I took a

:30:46.:30:49.

group of head teachers to meet the former Education Minister to ensure

:30:50.:30:52.

that he heard their concerns directly on poor funding for

:30:53.:30:57.

Cheshire East schools and to implore him that the new formula must

:30:58.:31:00.

address this and this was after a similar meeting in the previous

:31:01.:31:05.

parliament when the local authority officers met his predecessor with me

:31:06.:31:09.

for the same purpose. Hundreds of my constituents signed a petition for

:31:10.:31:14.

fairer funding. This issue is far from new which is why the

:31:15.:31:17.

announcement was so shocking. My head teachers are now asking how

:31:18.:31:21.

Cheshire East has become the most poorly funded area after a

:31:22.:31:24.

convincing case to the Minister was made by them at their meeting and

:31:25.:31:31.

they thought that had been heard. I too find it difficult to understand.

:31:32.:31:34.

What is particularly concerning is that these are some of the highest

:31:35.:31:38.

performing schools in the country but there is a point at which this

:31:39.:31:43.

laudable level of achievement cannot be maintained. The Secretary of

:31:44.:31:47.

State last week in this place - sorry yesterday in this place said

:31:48.:31:51.

we have been able to ensure that the areas that have been underfunded

:31:52.:31:57.

will be able to gain up to 3% over 2018-19 and 2019-20. My schools are

:31:58.:32:02.

facing exactly the opposite, not a rise of 3%, but the majority of my

:32:03.:32:08.

high schools face a reduction of 2. 9%. Before I relay some of the

:32:09.:32:13.

unpalable options facing head teachers in my constituency let me

:32:14.:32:16.

set in context last week's announcement because a number of

:32:17.:32:20.

other factors actually make the funding reductions for my schools

:32:21.:32:25.

far worse. Firstly, it's said that schools face a reduction of 8% in

:32:26.:32:31.

funding in real terms by 2020, due chiefly to unfunded increase in

:32:32.:32:35.

employer costs. So that makes the average savings to be found, not

:32:36.:32:41.

over 2%, but over 10%. In addition, the reduction in the educational

:32:42.:32:44.

services grant will mean an additional hit for academies in my

:32:45.:32:49.

constituency which means all seven high schools and even graver in

:32:50.:32:52.

Cheshire East there is still no local plan which has led to hundreds

:32:53.:32:58.

of new houses without additional funding for the proportionate

:32:59.:33:01.

increase in the number of children attending the schools. This effect

:33:02.:33:05.

of so-called lagging means schools are required to educate additional

:33:06.:33:09.

children with no additional funding. So what do head teachers tell me

:33:10.:33:13.

will be the effect of this new formula on their schools? With

:33:14.:33:18.

reference to the primary schools one head teacher says they will be

:33:19.:33:23.

forced into significant reductions including reducing support staff to

:33:24.:33:27.

help SEN children. At the high schools which will lose ?800,000 a

:33:28.:33:34.

year between them, one alone will face losses of ?300,000 over three

:33:35.:33:40.

years. Head teacher Ed O'Neill says this will be deeply damaging and the

:33:41.:33:44.

removal of the of the grant and the calculator pressures mean total

:33:45.:33:48.

savings of 12% will have to be found. Richard Middlebrook nominated

:33:49.:33:54.

for Head teacher of the Year is a national leader of education. He

:33:55.:33:58.

says the only way to survive would be to either open for only four days

:33:59.:34:04.

a week, narrow the curriculum or close the 6th form, all completely

:34:05.:34:09.

implausible. Dennis Oliver, one head teacher also a national leader of

:34:10.:34:12.

education, is loo looking at either the removal of all teaching

:34:13.:34:17.

assistant posts, loss of all technicians, or eight non-viable

:34:18.:34:21.

sixth form groups or removing heating and lighting for a year or

:34:22.:34:27.

general resources for children such as paper and books. Another head, a

:34:28.:34:33.

long established Ofsted inspector tells me he risks losing his

:34:34.:34:38.

school's outstanding status. He has a ?200,000 deficit as a result of

:34:39.:34:42.

lagged funding now to -- due to new housing. He believes the only

:34:43.:34:47.

feasible way to run the school would be to remove the programme of extra

:34:48.:34:51.

curriculum activities and or reduce the number of 6th form classes. He

:34:52.:34:55.

himself is already teaching 12 hours of maths a week to help balance the

:34:56.:35:01.

budget. Another head teacher at a boys school has calculated that

:35:02.:35:05.

losing the entire music, art, business studies or geography

:35:06.:35:08.

departments could achieve the reductions. Simply not possible for

:35:09.:35:13.

a school which is a regional leader in music and the creativity arts.

:35:14.:35:17.

She's concerned about the recruitment and retention of key

:35:18.:35:20.

staff whilst managing a reduction of 2. 9% which she calculates will

:35:21.:35:27.

actually be 5% taking into account other factors. The chief executive

:35:28.:35:31.

officer at one academy trust of which I am a patron, is facing a

:35:32.:35:39.

reduction of 2. 4% but tells me that in addition he has been educating

:35:40.:35:44.

over 50 children every year free for the last three years due to the

:35:45.:35:50.

increased housing nearby. Equating to over ?200,000 per year of missing

:35:51.:35:56.

funding in each of the last three years. This has depleted healthy

:35:57.:36:00.

reserves. The school he says has made every cut it can to ensure it

:36:01.:36:05.

has a balanced budget. He says, we have increased average class sizes,

:36:06.:36:10.

removed some subjects from our post-16 provision, increased contact

:36:11.:36:14.

time for teachers and reduced the amount spent on books and computer

:36:15.:36:17.

equipment. As I say, I am proud to be patron for this well-run

:36:18.:36:21.

multiacademy trust, already helping to drive down back office costs for

:36:22.:36:26.

the three schools in the trust by providing central services of

:36:27.:36:33.

finance and human resources. Another faces deeper reduction as a result

:36:34.:36:36.

of the change in funding with children with special needs and

:36:37.:36:39.

disabilities for which it has a dedicated unit. The school is a lead

:36:40.:36:43.

school for emotional health and members may recall that I

:36:44.:36:49.

highlighted recently its outstanding work with the most vulnerable

:36:50.:36:54.

students and families but the head teacher says, as head, I have no

:36:55.:36:57.

option but to reduce staffing from this area in order to meet a minimum

:36:58.:37:01.

number of teachers to provide a curriculum. He continues, this is

:37:02.:37:07.

alongside a shortfall in funding for schools that maintain a truly

:37:08.:37:12.

inclusive intake. The shortterm view will store up problems for society

:37:13.:37:17.

and other services in the long-term. I feel that the holistic support for

:37:18.:37:20.

children and families is being sacrificed and has no educational

:37:21.:37:25.

value in raising standards for our most vulnerable students. Now these

:37:26.:37:30.

head teachers who I know well are utterly dedicated and professional

:37:31.:37:34.

but the concerns I express on their behalf have been increasing for

:37:35.:37:37.

several years. Their conclusion is that the proposed national fairer

:37:38.:37:42.

funding formula is not fit for purpose, certainly not in Cheshire

:37:43.:37:45.

East. They are asking the Government to go back to the drawing board

:37:46.:37:49.

after listening to the outcome of the current consultation and I am

:37:50.:37:53.

asking for the concerns I have expressed today to be included in

:37:54.:37:56.

that consultation. I hope the deputy leader of the House will refer these

:37:57.:38:01.

concerns to the school Minister and convey my request to him for an

:38:02.:38:05.

early meeting which I have in fact already asked for, to which these

:38:06.:38:08.

head teachers will travel at short notice. I hope then that the schools

:38:09.:38:13.

Minister will not just hear but also act by reviewing the impact of the

:38:14.:38:18.

new funding formula on the schools in my constituency. Without it,

:38:19.:38:23.

there will be grave implications for the education and life chances of

:38:24.:38:27.

the children these head teachers so deeply care about. And with that,

:38:28.:38:32.

may I wish you and all colleagues within the chamber a happy and

:38:33.:38:34.

restful Christmas. Thank you. It's an absolute pleasure

:38:35.:38:45.

to make my debut appearance as the Shadow deputy leader of the House in

:38:46.:38:49.

this adjournment debate where I believe we are at our best raising a

:38:50.:38:54.

huge number of issues but I am conscious that other than the deputy

:38:55.:38:57.

leader of the House I am the only thing standing between members and

:38:58.:39:01.

their Christmas recess. So I will be as brief as I can as I run through

:39:02.:39:05.

my thoughts on the debate we have enjoyed this afternoon. The member

:39:06.:39:10.

for Harrow East opened the debate remembering those less fortunate

:39:11.:39:13.

than ourselves. A very important message at Christmas and the plight

:39:14.:39:19.

of those who are homeless. Add my thanks to Crisis who do amazing work

:39:20.:39:23.

all year round but particularly at Christmas and pay credit to the last

:39:24.:39:27.

Labour Government who did so much work in tackling rough sleeping. My

:39:28.:39:31.

honourable friend for north Tyneside raised important issues of drug

:39:32.:39:36.

addiction and the hugely important issue of sprinklers in schools and

:39:37.:39:40.

raised issues of jobs in her constituency for whom she is a

:39:41.:39:44.

tireless advocate for the people of north Tyneside. The member for

:39:45.:39:48.

Chelmsford raised something that interested myself about the plight

:39:49.:39:51.

of his constituents and their rail journeys into London. He told me

:39:52.:39:57.

their trains are now 30 years old. I see his challenge of 30 years old

:39:58.:40:04.

and I raise him the class 37s which are 1960s locos which many commuters

:40:05.:40:08.

between Barrow and Preston use and frequently break down. They are a

:40:09.:40:14.

magnificent engine, last time I raised this in the House many train

:40:15.:40:25.

enthusiasts said to me on Twitter. My honourable friend raised the

:40:26.:40:29.

issue of workers receiving a pay cut this Christmas. She is an advocate

:40:30.:40:33.

for them and raises the issue of retail workers who often, Christmas

:40:34.:40:38.

is bittersweet, the hours and money they can earn is great but often

:40:39.:40:41.

January comes with a reduction in hours and a pay cut. The member for

:40:42.:40:45.

Bridgwater and west Somerset informed the House of the drama

:40:46.:40:50.

unfolding in his constituency and called it the end of local

:40:51.:40:53.

democracy. Many of my constituents perhaps would argue that's already

:40:54.:41:00.

happened given that fracking is being forced upon the people of

:41:01.:41:08.

Lancashire. The issue of call for the rejection of post-truth politics

:41:09.:41:12.

is one I concur. And we should all commit to putting the united back

:41:13.:41:18.

into the United Kingdom. The member for Bradley Stoke talked

:41:19.:41:22.

about road transport infrastructure issues in his constituency and since

:41:23.:41:26.

we are making our Christmas list, I would like to add the A585 to my

:41:27.:41:32.

wish list for the road into Fleetwood. There was the

:41:33.:41:48.

The gallant member for Beckenham raised the inequity faced by the

:41:49.:41:54.

ex-service personnel who served in Northern Ireland and I am sure the

:41:55.:41:58.

deputy leader will be expanding on that in his remarks. The member for

:41:59.:42:03.

Strangford reminded the House of the real reason for Christmas, the

:42:04.:42:06.

greatest gift ever given, the birth of Jesus Christ and he remembered

:42:07.:42:09.

all the persecuted Christians around the world which is an issue he feels

:42:10.:42:16.

strongly about. Sometimes one - probably finds overwhelming to deal

:42:17.:42:20.

with, my Christmas gift to the member for Strangford is one John

:42:21.:42:23.

verse four, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who

:42:24.:42:27.

is in the world and I hope that offers him some comfort this

:42:28.:42:28.

Christmas. The member for Twickenham spoke

:42:29.:42:37.

about the shamefaced by our constituents, the assessments, and

:42:38.:42:44.

the great Ken Loach film I Daniel Blake, which if anyone has any time

:42:45.:42:48.

over Christmas, I think they will be off to hire that from Amazon videos

:42:49.:42:53.

or something. The member for Southend West reflected on

:42:54.:42:57.

bereavement which is felt more acutely at Christmas than any time

:42:58.:43:02.

of year and I'm pleased he raised the issue with his local hospice and

:43:03.:43:05.

the work they do, and if I was not at this debate I would have been at

:43:06.:43:11.

St John's Hospice in Lancaster where students from a college were doing a

:43:12.:43:16.

Christmas performance, but instead I will be visiting a children's

:43:17.:43:20.

hospital in Blackpool tomorrow. The member for Cleethorpes raised the

:43:21.:43:24.

issue of Seaview Street in his constituency which was a win at the

:43:25.:43:26.

British high street awards last week. His constituency might be the

:43:27.:43:33.

number one result on the East Coast, and he knows he could not possibly

:43:34.:43:37.

compete with the result of Fleetwood and indeed my constituency which was

:43:38.:43:46.

the winner at the same awards, but he raised the issue of the fishing

:43:47.:43:50.

industry and that must be looked at very seriously when it comes to

:43:51.:43:54.

Brexit negotiations and we must support the British fishing

:43:55.:43:57.

industry. The member for Kingston and suburb that -- Surbiton spoke

:43:58.:44:10.

about hate speech on social media and also races, Islamophobia,

:44:11.:44:14.

homophobia, sexism, racism, and all forms of hate. If I might indulge

:44:15.:44:21.

you, last week I reported a comment on Facebook which was made about the

:44:22.:44:27.

person who is a democratically elected politician in this country,

:44:28.:44:37.

and the quote was, shoot the EXPLETIVE between the eyes, but I

:44:38.:44:46.

heard from Facebook that that did not exceed their rules. I heard from

:44:47.:44:56.

our friend about diabetes, and Leicester City, 2016 has been a fine

:44:57.:45:02.

year for Leicester City, but also for the mighty Barrow who beat a

:45:03.:45:09.

league side away from home for the first time in many years, it was

:45:10.:45:14.

clearly a Barras in defeat for Blackburn in the FA Cup -- clearly

:45:15.:45:21.

an embarrassing defeat. May I join members who remembered our Kholi Jo

:45:22.:45:25.

Cox and she reminded us that we have more in common than which divides us

:45:26.:45:34.

-- remembered our colleague. All those members of the House who come

:45:35.:45:36.

from many different fate and cultural backgrounds but all in the

:45:37.:45:43.

same way British, so may I take this opportunity to wish you a happy

:45:44.:45:47.

Christmas, but to which the debited leader of the house is a happy

:45:48.:45:51.

Hanika and in my household we will be celebrating both festivals and

:45:52.:46:00.

anyone who has ever seen the OC will know about the merger of both

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festivals. What ever members of this House are celebrating, may I wish

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them a very happy Christmas and every peaceful New Year and extend

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that to the staff that work for us and the staff at the House and

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everyone who works here and all of our constituents. Michael Ellis.

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Thank you very much indeed. It is a pleasure to appear before you and

:46:24.:46:29.

opposite the shadow debited leader of the House, a commensurate

:46:30.:46:35.

performance if I may say so. Although the shadow leader of the

:46:36.:46:39.

House called me suave on a recent occasion, in the chamber last week,

:46:40.:46:46.

the impressive skills of the member for Walsall South is now in evidence

:46:47.:46:49.

for everyone to see and I was rather disappointed at first that she was

:46:50.:46:54.

not in the chamber today, but I welcome her to her place and she

:46:55.:47:01.

only need follow the example of her shadow leader, her leader, in my

:47:02.:47:07.

opinion, and she will do very well. This is an excellent opportunity to

:47:08.:47:13.

have a look at a Panorama of subjects without being checked for a

:47:14.:47:17.

want of relevance, and in the spirit of Christmas, I would want to say

:47:18.:47:23.

and referred to Mr Speaker in his absence and his awesome memory and

:47:24.:47:27.

attention to detail which I think does this House proud. The member

:47:28.:47:32.

for Harrow East spoke about those less fortunate than ourselves and if

:47:33.:47:38.

I may say so the work he has done and is doing on the homelessness

:47:39.:47:43.

reduction Bill which I understand is making very good progress, I'm told

:47:44.:47:48.

it is the longest private members Bill ever, quite an achievement. But

:47:49.:47:53.

he has clearly done tremendous work in this area. Also it is well known

:47:54.:48:00.

that his work with faith groups across our communities is very much

:48:01.:48:02.

appreciated and extremely impressive. The member for North

:48:03.:48:08.

Tyneside spoke about drug deaths being at record levels, and the

:48:09.:48:15.

importance of treatment for those who have become addicted to illegal

:48:16.:48:21.

narcotic substances. She made powerful point in that regard, as

:48:22.:48:25.

she did about the issue of fire safety in schools. The member for

:48:26.:48:32.

Chipping Barnet spoke about the digitisation of the tax system and

:48:33.:48:39.

the estimate as given by the Federation of Small Businesses that

:48:40.:48:42.

there will be cost issues regarding that advancement. And cost, she

:48:43.:48:52.

spoke of, for entrepreneurs as well, but this is a voluntary system and a

:48:53.:48:57.

pilot system and I know the points she made with her usual customary

:48:58.:49:01.

eloquence, elegance, they will actually be very much listened to

:49:02.:49:05.

and this is something she has raised some trigger points. She's looking

:49:06.:49:11.

at the issue with the same scale as she did as Secretary of State for

:49:12.:49:15.

Northern Ireland and no doubt she will keep pursuing her thing, but it

:49:16.:49:19.

is a pilot scheme and therefore these contributions will be very

:49:20.:49:25.

useful going forward. The member for Linlithgow and is Falkirk spoke

:49:26.:49:29.

about illicit tobacco being a danger, which we know that it is,

:49:30.:49:36.

and not only is it a danger to the Treasury as a loss of revenue, but

:49:37.:49:42.

actually more importantly it is very harmful, harmful in so many ways,

:49:43.:49:45.

harmful to young people because it might be distributed in an illicit

:49:46.:49:50.

way so that young people can gain access to it. It might contain

:49:51.:49:55.

content which is unwholesome. And not wholly related. And he made some

:49:56.:50:02.

good points in that regard -- regulated. My friend for Chelmsford

:50:03.:50:13.

is a senior member from whom I have occasionally sought advice and have

:50:14.:50:16.

been happy to do so, and he raised the trains problem. In his area, no

:50:17.:50:22.

doubt the same issues arise elsewhere, the infrastructure

:50:23.:50:27.

failures. A major investment from Liverpool Street up the line to his

:50:28.:50:35.

part of the world, is underway, of course, and there has been a

:50:36.:50:38.

commitment for new trains in the next couple of years, 2019-2020. He

:50:39.:50:45.

made the valid point that there is a need for jam today as well as jam

:50:46.:50:50.

tomorrow. We would all like jam perhaps every day. As a member of

:50:51.:50:56.

the breakfast club here in the House of Commons, he partakes of that.

:50:57.:51:03.

Frankly, his constituents are very well served by him if I may say so,

:51:04.:51:09.

and he made some very valid points about about the engineering work

:51:10.:51:12.

that sometimes overruns from the weekend and goes into a Monday

:51:13.:51:16.

morning. The fact that freight trains can be using the line in the

:51:17.:51:18.

rush hour and other very sensible points. He talked about the trials

:51:19.:51:27.

of digital signalling, that are being planned by Her Majesty 's

:51:28.:51:31.

government, and he has suggested that his area be a part of the

:51:32.:51:39.

experiment area. That is something I know will grow through to the

:51:40.:51:42.

Transport Secretary because I will make sure that it does. -- go

:51:43.:51:47.

through. We will see of that community to apply. The member for

:51:48.:51:52.

Mitcham and Morden, I was not aware that she had made a music video, but

:51:53.:52:00.

I know now, and I obviously in an minority because I understand

:52:01.:52:03.

thousands have already watched it. She also spoke about our businesses

:52:04.:52:10.

and companies in this country, and of course our businesses are the

:52:11.:52:13.

engine and the lifeblood of the economy and it is appropriate to

:52:14.:52:17.

thank them for the work they do in employing people and contributing in

:52:18.:52:22.

the highly valuable way that they do to the economy. Full-time work makes

:52:23.:52:27.

up nearly 75% of the growth in employment since 2010 and I would

:52:28.:52:34.

like to say John Lewis is a very good company with a very good

:52:35.:52:39.

reputation. I would gently encourage all chief executive is to find time

:52:40.:52:43.

to meet members of Parliament when such requests are made wherever

:52:44.:52:47.

possible. She mentioned it was appreciated across the House the

:52:48.:52:49.

Acme -- Academy community. We would like to show support to

:52:50.:53:02.

them, a very smoky minty but a great asset to our society -- a very small

:53:03.:53:10.

community. I had to think long and hard about what to say next. He

:53:11.:53:16.

referred to a merger most foul and I'm sorry to hear about the local

:53:17.:53:21.

difficulties in his area. It was a subtle speech for those members who

:53:22.:53:27.

were not present. He really is a ferociously as for his constituents.

:53:28.:53:34.

-- ferocious voice. Those in his district must think twice before

:53:35.:53:37.

crossing him. I will say no more about that. The honourable member

:53:38.:53:45.

for Chester mentioned the fact that the European Union is a source of

:53:46.:53:51.

concern to him in terms of where we go from here. I can assure him that

:53:52.:53:58.

Her Majesty 's government is not going to be introspective and it is

:53:59.:54:01.

not introspective and will not be and has not been. I said to him that

:54:02.:54:08.

the UK has always been an outward looking country and we will continue

:54:09.:54:11.

to be. We should have faith and he should have faith in the people of

:54:12.:54:17.

this country moving forward. The honourable man but for that the

:54:18.:54:24.

spoke -- the member for Bradley Stoke spoke about the alternative to

:54:25.:54:30.

private car journeys, when it is up and running. There have been

:54:31.:54:35.

consequent congestion and delays and he has clearly been working hard and

:54:36.:54:39.

he mentioned the meetings he has been having on the subject. He has

:54:40.:54:44.

been working hard on behalf of his constituency meetings here and in

:54:45.:54:47.

his constituency and progress has been made. I was pleased to hear

:54:48.:54:53.

about that, but I was also struck by what he said about his son and the

:54:54.:55:00.

excellent advice that he gave to his excellent son, he is rightly proud

:55:01.:55:04.

of him. I don't think he's in his place will stop forgive me, he is in

:55:05.:55:08.

a different place from where he was earlier. He is rightly proud of his

:55:09.:55:13.

son, and although I have never met him, may I say that I'm proud of

:55:14.:55:18.

him, as well. Someone who has joined Her Majesty 's Armed Forces very

:55:19.:55:25.

recently. The member for West Ham made some very powerful arguments

:55:26.:55:32.

that have the House in close attention, and the patient she spoke

:55:33.:55:37.

about undergoing pain during these procedures is palpable. I have

:55:38.:55:42.

already instructed the matter be raised with the Department for

:55:43.:55:46.

health, this is an issue which clearly needs a response. I will

:55:47.:55:52.

certainly transmit that message to the right quarters. She also

:55:53.:55:56.

mentioned research into arthritis and I will also undertake to look

:55:57.:56:03.

into that. My honourable and gallant friend for Beckenham spoke very

:56:04.:56:10.

powerfully in his remarks to this House, and can I say this, I have

:56:11.:56:15.

discussed the matter very briefly on the front bench with the Secretary

:56:16.:56:20.

of State for Northern Ireland. The matter of the UK soldiers being

:56:21.:56:25.

investigated. Firstly I want to say that Her Majesty 's Armed Forces

:56:26.:56:32.

have made and continue to make such a contribution to peace and

:56:33.:56:36.

stability in Northern Ireland and they will be provided where

:56:37.:56:39.

necessary with as much taxpayer funded legal support as is

:56:40.:56:45.

necessary. Her Majesty 's government is aware of an imbalance in the

:56:46.:56:51.

system, and as part of addressing the legacy of the past, is looking

:56:52.:56:56.

to create a more balanced and proportionate system going forward.

:56:57.:57:01.

I want to thank him again for his powerful contribution and the way in

:57:02.:57:06.

which he speaks and the subject matter on which he speaks, is always

:57:07.:57:10.

one that commands the respect and attention of this House.

:57:11.:57:16.

The honourable member for Strangford and this House is so much richer for

:57:17.:57:22.

his presence, he has the true affection of this House. He spoke of

:57:23.:57:27.

his love for Christmas and I think of his grandchildren and how he

:57:28.:57:31.

enjoys spending Christmas with them and the true meaning of Christmas.

:57:32.:57:37.

The powerful religion us invocation he gave was one that struck me and I

:57:38.:57:43.

commend him for that and for all the work of his career in this chamber

:57:44.:57:47.

over the past year, but in fact throughout his time as a member of

:57:48.:57:52.

parliament. I know that he does a great deal of work about freedom of

:57:53.:57:59.

religion generally and that he works powerfully, not only for those

:58:00.:58:03.

Christians persecuted around the world, and sadly they're ever

:58:04.:58:07.

increasing in number, not only are they remembered by him, but his work

:58:08.:58:10.

on freedom of religion throughout the year is something that should be

:58:11.:58:17.

commended in this House. The honourable member for Twickenham

:58:18.:58:22.

spoke of the Department for Work and Pensions assessments and she is a

:58:23.:58:27.

fiercely independent voice throughout the year and I mean that

:58:28.:58:34.

as a compliment. Some behind me who assume it was not. But I do mean it

:58:35.:58:38.

as a compliment. She is a fiercely independent voice throughout the

:58:39.:58:41.

year and she continued to show that independent today. The honourable

:58:42.:58:50.

member for Southend West who very much clearly enjoys these prerecess

:58:51.:58:54.

adjournment debates and we enjoy hearing him, the points he raises is

:58:55.:59:01.

too much for the short few hours of the time remaining but one thing

:59:02.:59:04.

that did strike me in particular about his remarks, he lost his

:59:05.:59:11.

mother this year at the age of 104. One is never old enough to lose

:59:12.:59:16.

one's mother and can I say to him that my heart goes out to him for

:59:17.:59:21.

his loss. The fact of the matter is I know that he has raised his

:59:22.:59:27.

mother's birthdays as they have come along each yoer -- each year and I

:59:28.:59:31.

think I have been pleased to offer my good wishes on those occasions, I

:59:32.:59:37.

do commiser ate with him for his loss. He also mentioned The Prince's

:59:38.:59:42.

Trust and that was one of the things he spoke about amongst many. Can I

:59:43.:59:47.

just take this opportunity to say that, he spoke about how effective

:59:48.:59:52.

The Prince's Trust was in his area and one particular division, but I

:59:53.:59:57.

would like to commend the work of His Royal Highness the Prince of

:59:58.:00:01.

Wales. Many achievements, the superb work in many areas and The Prince's

:00:02.:00:07.

Trust is one of them. It's the 40th anniversary of The Prince's Trust

:00:08.:00:11.

this year and it's clearly transformed many young lives, not

:00:12.:00:17.

only in my honourable friend for Southend West's constituency but

:00:18.:00:20.

across the country. We are very lucky to have the Prince of Wales,

:00:21.:00:25.

in my opinion, I have to get that in, as clearly the House expects it

:00:26.:00:36.

off me. The honourable member for Cleethorpes spoke affectionately of

:00:37.:00:40.

his constituency. He spoke of the Pier of the Year winner. I thought

:00:41.:00:45.

for one minute he was talking of the other place, but it's the pier that

:00:46.:00:53.

goes out into the sea. The private sector investment that is coming the

:00:54.:00:58.

way of Cleethorpes, he spoke of Government support needed in that

:00:59.:01:02.

quarter. He spoke a lot about a request for lots of money from the

:01:03.:01:06.

Government for Cleethorpes while reiterating he wasn't actually

:01:07.:01:11.

asking for money but he made an attractive case. My honourable

:01:12.:01:16.

friend for Kingston and Surbiton, as well as giving a charming retirement

:01:17.:01:20.

message to the chief superintendent of his area, whom we all wish well

:01:21.:01:28.

in his retirement, spoke very keenly about social media abuse. And the

:01:29.:01:34.

prolific amount of hate speech that we see and that the social media

:01:35.:01:39.

companies have a responsibility, a moral responsibility to do more. I

:01:40.:01:45.

would like to take this opportunity to commend the cross-party Home

:01:46.:01:47.

Affairs Select Committee for its report on anti-Semitism. He spoke

:01:48.:01:50.

about that and he is on that committee. He referred to the 2500

:01:51.:01:57.

deeply offensive messages received in a short period of time by one

:01:58.:02:04.

member of this House, anti-Semitic messages. I would like to commend

:02:05.:02:10.

the committee for its work and perhaps mention also when referring

:02:11.:02:17.

to this issue that I think today we lost Rabbi Blue or his death was

:02:18.:02:22.

announced today, he was a wonderful voice of reason on the airways and

:02:23.:02:28.

it's a marked contrast to the anti-Semitism that we are receiving

:02:29.:02:32.

- hearing about from social media in many quarters. He spoke of - he

:02:33.:02:41.

heard that the late Lady Thatcher made a remark about people, I think

:02:42.:02:49.

what he was referring to was Lord Young where Laid Thatcher apparently

:02:50.:02:55.

said most people bring me their problems, he brings solutions, I

:02:56.:02:57.

think that's the what he was referring to. I have come on now to

:02:58.:03:03.

the honourable gentleman for Leicester east, I haven't forgotten

:03:04.:03:09.

him. He spoke of the campaign against cyber bullying and the loss

:03:10.:03:17.

of a boy of 15, the tragedy of the loss is something I wanted to

:03:18.:03:21.

mention. The member does so much to raise individual cases like that in

:03:22.:03:26.

this place and I commend him for that. The whole House offers its

:03:27.:03:32.

sympathy to the parents of Brandon who have been in the Palace of

:03:33.:03:40.

Westminster today, I know, and we certainly send our commiserations

:03:41.:03:44.

for his loss and it reiterates, and the points he made reiterates the

:03:45.:03:47.

issue of the damage done to young people in particular but also to

:03:48.:03:52.

people of all ages by cyber bullying. The member for Leicester

:03:53.:04:02.

east has tremendous history of good work in the quarters of diabetes and

:04:03.:04:07.

in Yemen. He has focussed on Yemen to my certain knowledge for years,

:04:08.:04:11.

for as long as I have been in this House and now it's a cause that many

:04:12.:04:16.

are exercised by, rightly, but he Haas been a beacon of support for

:04:17.:04:21.

Yemen for many years. His support for Leicester football club is also

:04:22.:04:28.

widely known and he did say something about mince pies, but I

:04:29.:04:33.

will have to consult the clerk about that. We will see whether that

:04:34.:04:40.

applies. The honourable member for Stafford spoke of his affection for

:04:41.:04:46.

his constituency and the unsung heros of small and medium sized

:04:47.:04:52.

enterprises and it's right we talk about them because so much work goes

:04:53.:04:59.

in by small business owners and managers who often work all hours of

:05:00.:05:04.

the day and night and are the lifeblood of our economy. He made

:05:05.:05:09.

very valuable points about the ivory trade as well and his knowledge of

:05:10.:05:14.

African affairs is very impressive. I remember speaking to him a few

:05:15.:05:20.

weeks ago and I was bowled over by his knowledge of African affairs so

:05:21.:05:26.

when he speaks on the subject he speaks with some experience and

:05:27.:05:31.

persuasion. The honourable member for Dudley South spoke of the

:05:32.:05:35.

valuable work done by volunteers, the good work that they do. And what

:05:36.:05:41.

can we do to encourage companies to encourage volunteers? I think I am

:05:42.:05:46.

right in saying that one example from my own constituency, the

:05:47.:05:50.

Nationwide building society which I think has three of - three days a

:05:51.:05:56.

year for each of its employees to do voluntary work in their communities

:05:57.:06:00.

and they're paid still by the company for those three days but the

:06:01.:06:05.

company - it's part of the company's social action project and I think if

:06:06.:06:08.

more companies can do that sort of thing that will clearly form an

:06:09.:06:12.

encouragement for those who wish to support their communities. He said

:06:13.:06:16.

he visited every school in his constituency, as someone asked if he

:06:17.:06:21.

passed all the exams, I have no doubt that he would, if he could, or

:06:22.:06:29.

if he needed to. The honourable member for Congleton spoke about

:06:30.:06:32.

schools funding and she is a powerful force for her area and I

:06:33.:06:37.

know she will continue to fight, she made some powerful points there,

:06:38.:06:41.

continue to fight on that subject and she certainly knows how to make

:06:42.:06:48.

her voice heard in this place. So I take this opportunity, if I may, to

:06:49.:06:54.

wish everyone a happy Christmas. In particular, the staff of the House,

:06:55.:07:00.

Members of Parliament staff, the police here who look after us and

:07:01.:07:05.

security, and Mr Speaker and the deputy Speakers, including you, of

:07:06.:07:11.

course, we have had a year in 2016 to remember, one which will go down

:07:12.:07:17.

in history for many reasons and with historic developments, not least of

:07:18.:07:22.

course this country's second female Prime Minister and many other causes

:07:23.:07:29.

of celebration but the House lost a member in the prime of her life in

:07:30.:07:35.

Jo Cox. An explempar of public service. Her family f I may say so,

:07:36.:07:42.

have shown extraordinary dignity in their bearing and we remember that

:07:43.:07:47.

family at Christmas and we wish them and all those of our constituents,

:07:48.:07:52.

especially those like the Cox family who have suffered a bereavement, all

:07:53.:07:56.

the very best this Christmas and in the new year.

:07:57.:08:02.

The question is that this House has considered matters to be raised

:08:03.:08:07.

before the forthcoming adjournment. As many of that opinion say aye the

:08:08.:08:13.

contrary no. I think the ayes have it. I beg to move the House do now

:08:14.:08:21.

adjourn. The question is this House do now adjourn. Thank you. I am

:08:22.:08:25.

grateful to you for selecting this topic as the last to be debated

:08:26.:08:31.

before the Christmas recess. In so doing providing me with an

:08:32.:08:35.

opportunity to put my objection to the closure of Woolwich barracks on

:08:36.:08:40.

the record. As I may not get another chance, can I take the opportunity

:08:41.:08:45.

to wish you and the staff of the House a very merry Christmas. I am

:08:46.:08:49.

also pleased to see the Minister in his place. He knows Woolwich station

:08:50.:08:54.

well and I know for reasons he may touch upon in his response is

:08:55.:08:57.

extremely fond of it. Can I take this opportunity to say to him that

:08:58.:09:01.

the extremely courtups manner in which he has engaged with me over

:09:02.:09:06.

recent weeks on this issue has been appreciated. There has been an

:09:07.:09:14.

unbroken military presence in Woolwich since the 26th May 1716

:09:15.:09:20.

when a Royal warrant in the name of King George I authorised the

:09:21.:09:25.

formation of two permanent companies of Royal Artillery in the town. The

:09:26.:09:33.

gunners regimental motto is everywhere and it could just as

:09:34.:09:39.

equally serve as a metaphor for the military's imprint on Woolwich, seen

:09:40.:09:45.

in everything from its architecture so street names. The kings Royal

:09:46.:09:50.

troop, Royal Horse Artillery are quartered in Woolwich today,

:09:51.:09:54.

maintaining a bond between our community and our Armed Forces that

:09:55.:10:00.

spans three centuries. In determining, as it has, to sell off

:10:01.:10:04.

Woolwich barracks by 2028, it is that bond that the Government intend

:10:05.:10:08.

to break. Now there will of course be those

:10:09.:10:12.

who argue that the disposal of the barracks has been a long time

:10:13.:10:16.

coming, that we should just accept that Woolwich's days as a garrison

:10:17.:10:19.

town are numbered, and that therefore the focus of this debate

:10:20.:10:25.

should be on the future use of the site and how we secure the optimal

:10:26.:10:30.

outcome for those affected. Not whether the decision itself is the

:10:31.:10:34.

right one. If I were convinced that the department's case for disposing

:10:35.:10:38.

of the site was irrefutable, that would be the debate I would have

:10:39.:10:41.

called for and would be leading today. But I do not. I believe that

:10:42.:10:46.

the case for disposing of Woolwich barracks has not yet been made

:10:47.:10:50.

convincingly and I hope in the time available to probe the rationale

:10:51.:10:55.

that underpins the decision and in so doing to hopefully convince the

:10:56.:10:59.

Minister to ask his officials to revisit the decision. In objecting

:11:00.:11:02.

to the closure of Woolwich barracks I want to make clear to the House

:11:03.:11:08.

that I do not seek to undermine the department's defence of state

:11:09.:11:10.

strategy in its entirety. In his statement to the House on 7th

:11:11.:11:15.

November, the Defence Secretary was correct when he asserted that the

:11:16.:11:21.

current estate is too big, too expensive and too inefficient. He

:11:22.:11:25.

was therefore also right in my view to argue it too often fails to meet

:11:26.:11:29.

the needs of our Armed Forces and their families. Just as the size and

:11:30.:11:33.

structure of our Armed Forces have changed to meet different threats

:11:34.:11:37.

over recent decades, so it is right that the defensive state is

:11:38.:11:41.

modernised and rationalised, both for reasons of affordability and

:11:42.:11:44.

efficiency. I fear it will be extremely

:11:45.:11:48.

challenging to execute in practice, but I take no issue with the

:11:49.:11:52.

strategy itself. The issue I want to raise tonight is not whether the

:11:53.:11:56.

strategy to reduce the MoD's built estate is the right one, but whether

:11:57.:12:00.

it is right that the disposal of Woolwich barracks should form part

:12:01.:12:07.

of it. I believe that it is not for three - The question is that this

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House do now adjourn. I believe it is not for three main

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reasons.

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