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agreement between the UK and the EU. -- and comprehensive agreement.

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We will hear from the fellows surely. I'm sure he knows his own

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name. Sir Edward. In the interests of good governance, will the

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Minister shot the permanent Secretary to make sure there are

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worthwhile discussions with the possible future Government to ensure

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how we are going to square the circle of staying in the single

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market but controlling immigration, and being outside the customs union,

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I don't know what they're going to do, and trying to make new trade

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agreements. Could he square the circle? I congratulate my honourable

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friend for his demonstration of the single transferable question. The

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speech from the Shadow Secretary of State has been widely picked up as

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being a confused position. Our permanent secretary is bright and

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brilliant enough to be able to work his way through it. Mr Speaker, it

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is nice to be here. The Government is committed to securing a deal that

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works for the entire United Kingdom, including all parts of England. We

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are working with the local Government Association and regional

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partners to understand the problems and to identify any regional

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differences. As my honourable friend will be aware, the Secretary of

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State has already committed to bringing the mayor 's together for a

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summit in the summer. The Secretary of State agreed to hold a meeting in

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York for the mayor is off the north to make sure the region's interests

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are properly represented. With Yorkshire's devolution deal is

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proving challenging, with the Secretary of State agreed to invite

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those areas that are not represented by a male? The Government is

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committed to securing a deal that works for the whole of the United

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Kingdom and every part of England. Ministers have visited Yorkshire on

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a number of occasions, including the Secretary of State's visitor

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November, and sure he will be willing to consider another visit

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after the election. There has been investment in funding from the

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European Union, counterbalancing the effect of this another Tory

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governments. What guarantee will he offered that the repatriations of

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powers from Europe will not mean further concentration and Whitehall

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and that it will be devolved to the region 's? After the United Kingdom

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lease the European Union will be giving full consideration to further

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devolution to bring powers as close as possible to all parts of the

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country, but we are committed to securing a deal that works for the

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north-east and ministers have visited every part of England,

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including a recent doesn't to Sunderland to talk to people about

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manufacturing issues. On his visits around the regions of the UK, will

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the Minister make it clear that in order to deliver and take back

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control of our money, our laws and our borders, we must leave the

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single market, leave the customs union, and establish sovereign

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control of our borders and the maritime waters. He has set out the

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Government position Abra boy. -- admirably visiting the Northeast is

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always a good thing to do and we are happy to have him, but while he is

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there he needs to listen. The engineering employers Federation has

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warned that walking away with no warned that walking away with no

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deal would condemn Northeast manufacturing to a painful and

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costly Brexit. Instead of posturing, the engineering employers Federation

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was the Government to focus on having a clear position on customs

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and a sensible transition period. Why isn't the Government listening

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to manufacturers in the north Christmas on the contrary, we

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regularly deal with manufacturing industry. I had a meeting with the

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EEF that was very successful. The fact of the matter is that we are

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planning to seek the best possible free-trade agreement with the

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continuing UDP union. Our position will be that no deal is better than

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a bad deal and I find it extraordinary that the Government of

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the opposition seems to think it is sensible to go to the negotiating

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Chamber expecting to have no deal. Thank you, Mr Speaker. We have

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regular discussions with ministers, including with the Attorney General.

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We fully respect the convention and happy working with the devolved

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administrations, through the joint ministerial Committee. Before what

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is my last question in this House, can I thank you and your staff

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across all areas in which colleagues across the House every success in

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the coming months. Can the Minister confirm whether the Great Repeal

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Bill will require consent from the dissolved assembly 's? Thank you for

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her warm remarks. Could I express my best wishes to her for the future.

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Whether or not legislative consent is required for the Great Repeal

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Bill will depend on the form and content of that, which will be

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published in the next Parliament. Has my right honourable friend

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received a report on the visit on Monday and Tuesday this week of the

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Scottish affairs Committee to Brussels? Does he share my delight

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that it was made absolutely clear throughout those discussions that

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the European Union is only interested in negotiating with the

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United Kingdom Government and not with the Scottish Government? I did

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note that, Mr Speaker, and the position is quite clear. It is

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member states and negotiate with European Union and given that this

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country voted as a single country to leave the European Union, we should

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be expecting the support of the Scottish National Party are not what

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they are doing at the moment. Scotland voted twice to remain in

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the European Union, because they told us that brought against

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independence was afoot to stay in the EU. Statutory instruments are

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not normally subject to legislative consent, but will the Government

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committed to ensuring that will be consent? It is very likely that the

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necessary competences will be created to allow the dissolved

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assemblies themselves to make those statutory instruments. On that

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point, there have been many who have criticised the Government's plans to

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make minor technical changes to legislation using the Henry VIII

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powers, which is no more than the plans to use delegated legislation.

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Does he agree with me that actually do use of delegated legislation is

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an established part of the legislative procedures used in this

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House? By honourable friend is entirely right. Any such statutory

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instruments would be under statute that would go through this House and

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the other place in the normal way. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The

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Government is working hard to get the best deal for the United

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Kingdom, are free-trade deal with the EU that is more ambitious than

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any other yet struck. We are considering and analysing the impact

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on future trading in all sectors of our economy, developing policies to

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support our vision for a global Britain that is producing more,

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selling more on exporting more. Could they Minister tried to

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concentrate. Welsh farmers are saying that the door is open to New

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Zealand competition which could clear welsh sheep off-the-shelf

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because of the price and the door is not open to new markets in the

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United States, although this was promised. The Minister will

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understand the culture of priority of men training Welsh farms, where

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one of the most ancient languages and the whole of Europe prospers in

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its purest and best form. Is this not a major priority to the

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Government, to give a guarantee to welsh farmers? I represent many more

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welsh farmers than he does and I intend to do so and after the

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general election. This Government is intent on ensuring the best possible

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free-trade agreement for this country, which will benefit all

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farmers including Welsh farmers, and we intend to ensure Welsh exports

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continue as the general election. If she would like to contribute, she

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was welcome to do so. Welsh sheep are important part of the

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agricultural sector in Wales and the farming community as a whole

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throughout the UK is looking for reassurance that they will be

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supported and to relieve the European Union full up there is a

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very high agricultural sector in my constituency and they would be

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grateful of the protection as you leave the European Union. The

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agricultural sector is very important in the forthcoming

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negotiations. We have already increased the number of exports from

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the British farming sector, we are currently in the process of

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negotiating to open a market in Saudi Arabia and there are other

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opportunities out there once we have left the European Union.

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Excellent, I was hoping the Honourable Gentleman would beetle

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into the House on time and he has done so. I reinstate number 13. Mr

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Henry Smith. Thank you, Mr Speaker. With your permission I will and so

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questions 1319 together. Engagement with industry is an essential part

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of our plan to build a national consensus around a negotiating

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position. We're been speaking to industry groups across the UK and

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internationally, including Rolls-Royce and the aerospace growth

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partnership. Thank you for your forbearance. Well my honourable

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friend... And much more, Mr Speaker. Well my honourable friend welcome

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Boeing's investment in a new hangar maintenance facility at Gatwick

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Airport as proof of the expanding aviation sector, even post-Brexit?

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Yes, indeed. Boeing have announced 100 new jobs of their facility at

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Gatwick. Aviation and the space industry are vitally important parts

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of our economy and we have no doubt that they will continue to thrive

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after we have left the European Union. I am grateful to the Minister

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for mentioning Airbus who have our location in my constituency. What

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discussions has the Minister had with these companies to reassure

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them that their supply chains are secure and that there will be

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well-placed to make the most of a global, facing Britain. I have had

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several discussions with various aerospace companies, including

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Airbus, Blair met in Bristol recently. We understand that supply

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chains across Europe are heavily integrated, but there is a mutual

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interest in agreeing trading arrangements. The British aerospace

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industry is the most important in Europe and there is a mutual

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interest in ensuring the continued elation ships persist beyond Brexit.

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-- the continued relationships. I think it is me again. This was the

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question that was due to be linked with number ten. The ministerial

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team have frequent discussions with colleagues across departments,

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including the Department for International Trade, about our

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future relationship with European Union. The Government wants to

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secure and mutually beneficial customs agreement and a bold and

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ambitious free-trade agreement on greater scale and ambition than any

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before it. Does the Minister agree with International Trade Secretary

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that it needs to be easier to hire and fire workers in the UK. Our

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commitment to the security of workers' rights has been stated many

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times. We called a debate in Government time to ensure that point

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was well made and I am surprised that the Honourable Gentleman raises

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the issue again. Car manufacturers a vital part of the Shropshire

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economy. Could he commit that any free-trade agreement will protect

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car manufacturer throughout the United Kingdom?

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Clearly a agreement would not only be a huge benefit to Land Rover in

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shops and many other motor manufacturers in the country. -- in

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Shropshire. We are seeking an ambitious agreement that would

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provide a host of opportunities for manufacturers across the world. The

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Minister will no doubt paragraph 19 of the European Council draft

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guidelines for the negotiations on the future EU UK relationship

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declared there must be a level playing field for competition with

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the same social and environmental standards. Does the Minister agree

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with that principle and would he be happy to see it in bedded in the

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agreement? Firstly these are draft guidelines, the final guidelines

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will not be issued until the 29th of this month. These are the guidelines

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under which the EU want us to operate the discussions, it remains

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to be seen what our response to that is. Although we are of one mind that

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we have to questions and only one knighthood! The government is right

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to seek continuing free-trade agreement with the EU, it would be

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in the interests of the EU as well as ourselves and it would be the

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first, best outcome. They cannot admit to what is quite likely that

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politics might, macroeconomics and there might be no deal. Can they

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confirm that in those circumstances we will go to a good second-best

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which is trading on most-favoured-nation terms as do the

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European Union's most successful partners, the USA, China, Japan and

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Russia? It would mean an average tariff of 4%, relatively small beer

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competitiveness because of the competitiveness because of the

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exchange rate and saving ?10 billion a year which is equivalent to a 7%

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tariff on our exports. Let me say quite clearly that the ambition and

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the intention of the government is to achieve the best possible

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free-trade agreement with our EU partners. However, opposition also

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is that we expect to negotiate toughly and unlike the opposition

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our position will be made clear to the EU that we are prepared to walk

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away from the negotiating table if it is not possible to achieve a deal

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that suits us. The Secretary of State when he gave evidence to the

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select committee told me the government had not undertaken any

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economic assessment of the impact of Brexit Cynthia Bean in his post.

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Could he update the house on whether there have been any progress and

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will be also ensure that when it comes to publishing the government's

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final deal that there is an economic assessment of the impact of that

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deal, of the impact of no deal, so my constituents and the country can

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about whether no deal is indeed about whether no deal is indeed

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better than a bad deal? The department has carried out an

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in-depth assessment right across 50 sectors of the economy. What we have

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made clear is that it is not in the national interest for us to produce

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a running commentary on how we are developing our negotiating position

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and that will remain the case. Question number 15.

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We're working closely with colleagues across government to

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assess the impact that withdrawal from the EU overlap across sectors

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in crosscutting areas and the environment sector is continuing the

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best options for future agricultural and land use Halsey that can benefit

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British farming, countryside and the environment. I'm grateful for his

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answer and the UK exit from the EU could provide many new and exciting

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opportunities for our farmers but in order to get the policy right, what

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work is going on alongside Defra to engage fully with our farmers and

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also with the sector more generally? also with the sector more generally?

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And at any time A-listers would be welcome the company date with my

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farmers in Corby and East Northamptonshire. We are presented

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with an unprecedented opportunity to redesign agricultural policies to

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suit the British agricultural industry. And we are meeting with a

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number of interested parties and stakeholders from the agricultural

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sector and we have had meetings with all the British farming unions, the

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national pig Association, country land and business Association and

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the International meat trade association to name but a few.

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Question 16, please. We're working closely with

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colleagues across government to assess the impact that withdrawal

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from the EU will have a number of sectors in cost-cutting areas. I

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have meetings with a number of stakeholders from the Scottish food

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and drinks sector including NFU Scotland, the Scotch Whisky

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Association, the Scottish fishermen Association, the Scottish fishermen

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's Federation and the food and drink Federation. I'm grateful for the

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answer, Stirling constituency has many world-class food and drink

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companies. I wonder what assurances the Secretary of State or the

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Minister could give me if any that during the Brexit negotiations

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access to the important EU market for these excellent MPs can be

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maintained unprotected? As I have said already, we are seeking a

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free-trade agreement that would continue to secure such access but

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might I also say that the Scotch Whisky Association has said that

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there are enormous opportunities for the sector if the UK can secure

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favourable bilateral trade deals across other export markets. India

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is a growing market for Scotch whiskey but we are being held back

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by a 150% tariff so the honourable gentleman should be looking for the

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opportunities of Brexit and not being a wet blanket. Thank you, Mr

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Speaker. Since the SNP government came into office, the value of

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Scottish food exports has more than doubled with businesses in my

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constituency enjoyed excellent levels of growth. What impact

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assessment has his department carried out on the impact of Brexit

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on such excellent growth or is it simply fingers crossed approach?

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Morning I received a response from the Scotland Office in relation to a

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question I posted to the Secretary of State for Scotland and we now

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know that the Scotland Office has not made any assessment of the

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impact of Brexit on Scottish trade. I'm surprised to hear that, Mr

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Speaker. As I said a moment ago, in fact the Scotch was the association

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itself has identified enormous opportunities from Brexit so maybe

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when the honourable lady goes back to her constituency to do

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campaigning, she might go to her nearest distillery and ask them what

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they think. Number 17, please, Mr Speaker. The government has provided

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assurances to EU student in the UK and are welcomed the announcement

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that confirmed EU students applying to study at English universities in

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2018 at the 19th will continue to remain eligible for undergraduate,

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masters, and financial support even if the course concludes after the UK

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exit the EU. The government want an environment in which the UK remained

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a world leader in research and academia and continues to be home to

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the best universities in the world. I would like to echo this sentiment

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about international students and commend my honourable friend for all

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this work on that campaign. I'm proud to have the award-winning

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Huddersfield University in our town and I've visited the Institute for

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railway research a couple of weeks ago and thanks to a business growth

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fund they are working on innovative rail and tram projects around the

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world including in Australia, so can the Minister and his deep make sure

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what world-class universities will be Gavor heart of the opportunities

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that Brexit will bring? My honourable friend is absolutely

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right to champion our universities and along with my colleague I have

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been meeting regularly with his higher education and innovation

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Council which represents the views of the university sector and it is

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clear that UK collaborative research both with EU partners and widely in

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the world is a huge opportunity for improving this process.

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Can I thank my honourable friend for his debate the other day in

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Westminster Hall where we discussed this issue. A Conservative

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government successfully secured the rebate in 1984 which was introduced

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in 1985 and compiling an aggregate figure in real to the context matter

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and the government has not published such figures but I know he has

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estimated it at well over ?100 billion. Details of the most recent

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rebate are published in a document and the latest edition was published

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in February report that the UK received a rebate of ?3.9 billion

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from the EU in 2016. A massive 117 billion pound total rebate since

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Margaret Thatcher negotiated it in 1984 is testament to her resolution

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and determination in getting the best deal for Britain and refusing

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to take no for an answer. Will my honourable friend agree to emulate

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her negotiating style and to swing the metaphorical handbag until we

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get the deal that Britain needs? I can assure my honourable friend that

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as both at the tap repetition of both our secretary of state and the

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Prime Minister we'll be robust in defining our national interest

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throughout this process. As the Prime Minister set out, the days of

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Britain making vast contributions to the EU every year will end. A

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strong, stable government will be best placed to secure the best deal

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for the British taxpayer and just as our first lady prime ministers

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secured the rebate and taxpayer Balliu, I am sure our second one

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will fight our corner in these negotiations. Number one, please.

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Before I answer that I start by thanking you for your forbearance

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and indeed for ever because you have done for this house. We have a clear

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plan for Britain, one that fosters a deep and a special new partnership

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with the EU and serves the interests of all parts of the UK. We want that

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partnership to be underpinned by a comp rancid free-trade agreement

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that gives UK companies the maximum access to European markets and

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European companies the same access to UK markets -- comprehensive

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free-trade agreement. Membership of the single market involves

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maintaining or four freedoms including free movement of people

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which is inconsistent with our desire to take back control of our

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borders. Britain is leaving the EU but not Europe and it has been in

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both our interest to see the EU succeed socially, politically and

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economically and it will be our policy. Would my right honourable

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friend confirmed that as part of that plant is the government's

:27:37.:27:40.

commitment to put the right to EU citizens to British law by the Great

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Repeal Bill and nothing will affect those right and as has the consent

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of this house? Indeed he is right and one of the things I think people

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have missed and he has picked up in this is that any change in those

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right would require primary legislation in this house in

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addition to that our plan is to put through the Great Repeal Bill and

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have subsequent consequential primary legislation which will

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underpin those rights. I have made these points to many of my opposite

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numbers but other member state and said this is obviously will be taken

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at the same time as protection of British rights abroad and all

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understood it and welcome it and I'm very confident that we can get a

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deal which will protect all of the 4 million people in very short order.

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Let me pick up on that theme because of the Secretary of State knows,

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around 3 million EU nationals are very anxious about their status when

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we leave the EU. Labour would unilaterally Danty their status from

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day one. Under this government, or they can do is apply for

:28:50.:28:54.

consideration for permanent residency. As the Brexit committee

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warned in March, the current process for consideration a permanent

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residency applications is not fit for purpose. He knows how important

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it is. Have things improved? The thing I would say and I respect his

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concern in this area and let me be clear about that, but I would say

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that the system is not designed to deal with 3 million people and it

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has been made plain, if you go on the Home Office website you will say

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that it says you don't need to make an application and when we move the

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primary legislation, I believe it will be very simple. As the

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Financial Times reported yesterday, the Home Office is now saying don't

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apply them is that the official government position for EU

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nationals, don't apply for permanent residency? Is that how they are

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going to deal with the anxiety? Don't apply? But that is about is

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the reflection of what is on the website of the Home Office which is

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that they don't need to apply for their rights to be underpinned. That

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is the approach we are taking. Bear in mind, for the next two years

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irrespective of anything the government does, all of the existing

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rights and privileges continue to apply. There will be no change in

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that respect. Before we come to the point of exit from the EU, we will

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have made this very clear in primary legislation.

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The Lincolnshire coast line is the best place in the country for a

:30:36.:30:46.

traditional seaside holiday. But the coastline also has pockets of

:30:47.:30:50.

deprivation and investment in infrastructure such as broadband,

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traffic solutions and renovated beach huts are key to the local

:30:55.:30:59.

economy. Can my honourable friend reassure my constituents that the

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coastal economy and rural economy will be central in preparations for

:31:06.:31:11.

our exit? I am grateful to the honourable lady for that question.

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Her coastline, with the exception of the north Wales coastline, is one of

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the most beautiful in the UK. Coastal communities do contribute an

:31:21.:31:25.

important part to our economy. They are part of the study we have big

:31:26.:31:29.

undertaking and we intend to ensure their interests are reflected

:31:30.:31:33.

post-Brexit. The Prime Minister called the general election in the

:31:34.:31:37.

name of unity to strengthen her EU negotiating position, but this is

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the Prime Minister who said, -- sent Go Home vans around parts of

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Britain. She aided and abetted the most disgraceful campaign against

:31:49.:31:52.

the first-Muslim-macro back capital city and this is the Government

:31:53.:31:58.

which we did had Brexit allies seeks to call anyone who calls into

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question their negotiating strategy a bunch of saboteurs. He's not the

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truth that far from uniting this country, this Government has been

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dividing it since they took office? If the honourable gentleman wants an

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answer, the first place he should start is on the streets of Britain,

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where he will find a massive support for Prime Minister. A massive

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respect for our Prime Minister, and a belief that she will deliver the

:32:28.:32:30.

best outcome in the Brexit negotiations. Last week, I met staff

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at Norwich manufacturing, they small but impressive company with links to

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Ireland and the continent. Firms such as this need is free as

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possible trade between the other member states. Will he look for

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security, stability, and simplicity, for small firms up and down this

:32:54.:32:58.

country? We fully understand the importance of these issues to SMEs

:32:59.:33:03.

including those in her constituency, and let me repeat for the umpteenth

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time, we are pursuing a bold and ambitious free trade agreement which

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will be for the benefit of firms such as those and others around the

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country. Thousands of my constituents work in Edinburgh's

:33:18.:33:21.

financial sector, the second largest in the UK. Following the

:33:22.:33:26.

announcement by the EU 27 this week that the intend to exclude the

:33:27.:33:29.

financial services sector from any future trade deal with the UK after

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Brexit, can the minister tell me what contingency planning he is

:33:35.:33:37.

carrying out to protect my constituents' jobs? As I said

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earlier, we seek a competitive trade deal which absolutely would include

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comprehensive doublet financial services, but we have engaged with

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the Edinburgh financial services sector, who have been very clear

:33:52.:33:54.

with us that access to European Union market is in potent --

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important to them but even more important to them is their access to

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the rest of the UK and the relationship between Scotland and

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the rest of the UK. As my right honourable friend proceeds with the

:34:09.:34:15.

immense task of delivering a responsible and good Brexit for the

:34:16.:34:18.

country and most especially at these difficult times for me to six, would

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he agree with me that we cannot pretend to be a global player

:34:24.:34:27.

without running an open economy with an orderly, and bureaucratic

:34:28.:34:32.

immigration policy which will allow businesses and public services the

:34:33.:34:39.

people and skills they need? Mid Sussex is in good hands. Of course

:34:40.:34:47.

he's right. The balance that any Government strikes when it controls

:34:48.:34:51.

its own immigration policy, controls its own borders, something which he

:34:52.:34:55.

has fought for down the years, is one which is both... Provides proper

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security and proper policy, in terms of delivery of social services and

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delivering housing, that but at the same time, allows our businesses,

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universities, our research centres, I financial centres, all to take

:35:12.:35:16.

part in the battle for talent which actually makes our country one of

:35:17.:35:21.

the greatest in the world. Can I thank you for putting up with me so

:35:22.:35:25.

tolerantly for quite a long time? But can I also warn you I will make

:35:26.:35:29.

every effort to be back and troublesome in future? And can

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surprise you by asking a topical question? The fact is, I want to ask

:35:36.:35:38.

the Secretary of State, people like me, we were remainders but we accept

:35:39.:35:46.

for the will of the British people and we want a great deal for this

:35:47.:35:50.

country and we are very worried that this election will get in the way.

:35:51.:35:56.

GCC this morning's report from make pharmaceutical industry, by the

:35:57.:35:58.

pharmaceutical industry will move out of Britain for two reasons, one

:35:59.:36:06.

11, Brexit, and two, the fact we have not put sufficient resources

:36:07.:36:10.

into our national health service. He's the one person who has actually

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got me a rebuke from the Speaker in the past, so I look forward to him

:36:15.:36:18.

coming back and continuing that tradition. We have had industries

:36:19.:36:24.

relocated here. We have had people like GlaxoSmithKline increased

:36:25.:36:30.

expenditure here. And as for the other aspect of the attempt by the

:36:31.:36:34.

AP PI, it seemed to be pressure on the spending of the National health

:36:35.:36:37.

service, which is something I think is more for the Health Secretary,

:36:38.:36:42.

but I think he will make sensible decisions in the national interest,

:36:43.:36:45.

not in individual industry's interest. We have outstanding are

:36:46.:36:56.

space -- aerospace businesses in the UK, including Rolls-Royce. Would my

:36:57.:37:01.

right honourable friend agree that it is a vital sector to the UK

:37:02.:37:06.

economy, and assured this House that it will have a strong voice in the

:37:07.:37:11.

negotiations? Pendle has a strong voice going into the next general

:37:12.:37:15.

election. Aerospace is a key industry for this country and that

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is why, as I said earlier, we have paid so much attention. We will make

:37:20.:37:23.

sure we continue to have the most important are space industry in

:37:24.:37:32.

Europe. Far from there being an extra ?350 million a week to be

:37:33.:37:36.

spending on the NHS following Brexit, we are likely to face an NHS

:37:37.:37:42.

staff crisis and slow access to cancer drugs and treatment because

:37:43.:37:46.

of the loss of the European medicines agency. Is the Secretary

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of State going to be putting that sign on a bus in the next few weeks?

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One of the oddities of the position of the Labour Party is that on one

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hand, it says, you must represent everybody, which is entirely proper,

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but on the other hand, they want to revisit... I will answer when

:38:08.:38:10.

Heckerling stops. Clearly the onboard gentleman is getting into

:38:11.:38:19.

hustings at his constituency. It may be the last one he has. I will not

:38:20.:38:23.

revisit the oddments of the past. I will work on delivering the best

:38:24.:38:29.

outcome for the future. -- I will not revisit the arguments. As this

:38:30.:38:34.

is the last day and other than points of order, we will be

:38:35.:38:38.

suspending, my instinct is to hear colleagues who want to ask

:38:39.:38:47.

questions, but I hope that they will be able to be heard. If colleagues

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would like to put the questions forward to the Secretary of State

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and his colleagues, I am open to that. With great brevity. Does he

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agree that financial services in London, Edinburgh and throughout the

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country will be able to benefit for equivalence and mutual recognition

:39:08.:39:10.

as an alternative to pass porting to ensure that sector remained open and

:39:11.:39:15.

thriving, as stated by the Governor of the Bank of England recently?

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She's right and we will continue to work closely with the regulators to

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ensure we have some of the best regulated financial services in the

:39:26.:39:28.

world. The secretary of the state is a wise man and we all read his wife

:39:29.:39:35.

article in the Irish Times on September the 5th last year, when he

:39:36.:39:39.

said that Ireland did not have to choose between Ireland and the UK,

:39:40.:39:46.

it could have extensive trade and commerce. Ireland is a big market

:39:47.:39:51.

for England but not the biggest, so given his wise words in Ireland,

:39:52.:39:55.

what patients does he have with those that somehow suggest that

:39:56.:39:57.

England would like to have trade barriers with its largest market in

:39:58.:40:03.

Europe and at ?50 billion its second largest export market in the world,

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Scotland. Before I answer, I will say this, he's an old friend and

:40:11.:40:14.

politics notwithstanding I wish him well. The answer to his question, I

:40:15.:40:20.

don't want to see any trade barriers within the United Kingdom, which is

:40:21.:40:27.

why I support the union. Whilst all of us in this place want a good

:40:28.:40:33.

negotiating settlement, for some it is vital, not least the agricultural

:40:34.:40:38.

sector, who do stand to lose significantly if there is no deal.

:40:39.:40:42.

Could my right honourable friend continue to reassure that despite

:40:43.:40:46.

the necessary shorthand of our approach to the negotiations, that

:40:47.:40:53.

means the -- that the need for the agricultural sector to be secure is

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uppermost in his mind? He is right that the agricultural sector is the

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most sensitive to the issue of tariffs and indeed the issue of

:41:06.:41:09.

customs, because of the nature of the product. Very often it is

:41:10.:41:15.

biodegradable and so on. It is also true that this is true the other way

:41:16.:41:20.

round, we are an enormous market for France, Bavaria and many other

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agricultural areas of Europe. So we have dead centre the aim of getting

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a frictionless trade in that sector and we are confident that it is in

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the interests of the whole of the European Union, not just us. Will be

:41:34.:41:39.

minister tell us why we are going into this premature election? Those

:41:40.:41:43.

others who voted to remain have accepted fully the decision voted

:41:44.:41:48.

for Article 50 as they did in the other house. That is not the reason.

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Can he confessed today that the real reason that we are having this

:41:53.:41:56.

election is that the Government want to escape from the promise they made

:41:57.:42:01.

two years ago, the five-year promise not to raise taxes and to respect

:42:02.:42:07.

the triple lock? And isn't it true that what lies ahead on the economic

:42:08.:42:12.

front isn't a great -- is a great sink hole into which our economy

:42:13.:42:18.

will fall in a tailspin? I note the attention to your call for a short

:42:19.:42:23.

question, Mr Speaker. But I will give it a short answer. The Labour

:42:24.:42:28.

Party throughout this has maintained its interesting schizophrenia. On

:42:29.:42:32.

the one hand, saying, we respect the outcome of the referendum, and then

:42:33.:42:36.

at every turn trying to thwart it. They say, you have a mandate to lead

:42:37.:42:41.

but not on these terms. When the election is over, we will have a

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mandate on those terms. Thank you. We'll be minister consider a West

:42:49.:42:55.

Midlands Brexit summit with the new mayor of the West Midlands, who will

:42:56.:43:00.

hopefully be Andy Street and with key regional businesses so that we

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can ensure that the West Midlands' interests are considered in the

:43:05.:43:07.

Brexit negotiations and Brexit delivers for the West Midlands as

:43:08.:43:12.

well as the rest of the country? One of the best things that could happen

:43:13.:43:16.

to the West Midlands is for Andy Street to be elected, and I will

:43:17.:43:19.

make time to see him as soon as he is. London is the predominant

:43:20.:43:28.

economic force in the country. I want assistance and cooperation --

:43:29.:43:34.

what assistance and cooperation has my right honourable friend received

:43:35.:43:37.

from the Mayor of London and the authorities in London to ensure a

:43:38.:43:42.

smooth, clean Brexit that benefits the capital and the whole of the

:43:43.:43:46.

country? He's dead right that the financial sector in London is the

:43:47.:43:52.

largest, but not just London, remember Scotland is a major

:43:53.:43:57.

financial sector, and so on. We have been in constant communication. All

:43:58.:44:00.

of the ministers in the department and the relevant ministers in the

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Treasury, with the whole sector, and representative groups of the sector,

:44:08.:44:11.

and a large number of companies in the sector. And to give him his due,

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I have also had representations from Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, and

:44:17.:44:22.

useful, day since -- useful conversations with him and we

:44:23.:44:28.

recognise we have the interests of London at heart. What kind of deal

:44:29.:44:33.

does he think he will get if he and his Government refuses to pay their

:44:34.:44:36.

dues in Europe? Surely negotiations are about give and take? It is

:44:37.:44:42.

interesting that the Scottish National Party wants to give ?60

:44:43.:44:50.

billion. My constituency in Bromley and Chislehurst welcome the emphasis

:44:51.:44:54.

given to the financial services, our largest employer. Wilkie also

:44:55.:44:59.

acknowledge that these are important to the Crown dependencies? And also

:45:00.:45:06.

to the British Overseas Territory of Gibraltar? Will he make sure those

:45:07.:45:10.

two key areas also get the full benefit of our ambitious free-trade

:45:11.:45:12.

deal? The honourable gentleman is just

:45:13.:45:20.

about old enough to remember me defending Gibraltar before and we

:45:21.:45:26.

defended it then and we will now. My constituency with the net

:45:27.:45:29.

beneficiary from the EU is to boost our economy we need continuous

:45:30.:45:33.

investment for jobs so will the Minister commit to the same high

:45:34.:45:36.

levels of infrastructure investment for the future? The honourable

:45:37.:45:41.

gentleman will know that the government has guaranteed structural

:45:42.:45:47.

fund payments to 2020 and he must also understand that the

:45:48.:45:51.

responsibility for delivering infrastructure in Wales is that the

:45:52.:45:53.

Welsh Assembly government and no doubt he will be speaking to his

:45:54.:45:57.

colleagues as soon as Parliament is risen. I thought we were about to

:45:58.:46:02.

hear from the member of South Norfolk who has -- but we are

:46:03.:46:11.

ratified we will hear from him. I'm grateful, I only wish to ask about

:46:12.:46:15.

the pig industry, an important industry across is Anglia. Can you

:46:16.:46:22.

tell us what prospect they see for the industry which is not happy

:46:23.:46:24.

subsidy from the public purse but would have made huge gains

:46:25.:46:28.

particularly in China where the pigs ear deal added ?5 per carcass, what

:46:29.:46:34.

vast ecstasy to see for this important sector? I am sure that my

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honourable friend will be declaring his interest, but can I assure him

:46:41.:46:46.

that the government understands the importance of pig meat to the

:46:47.:46:50.

economy. I have met with the National pig Association and that

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the say that they are very positive about the future. Can the Secretary

:46:53.:47:01.

of State name one power or policy area he can definitely guarantee

:47:02.:47:04.

will be devolved to the Scottish Parliament in the event of Brexit?

:47:05.:47:13.

All the ones they currently have. In an earlier question reference was

:47:14.:47:17.

made to the English regions which are of course an EU construction.

:47:18.:47:22.

They divide great counties like ligature between the East Midlands

:47:23.:47:26.

and Yorkshire and the Humber. Would it be too much to expect a future

:47:27.:47:31.

government when we regain our independence to scrap these regions

:47:32.:47:33.

or at least ensured that linking to it in one of them? -- Lincolnshire.

:47:34.:47:42.

Or I can say is that the honourable gentleman tempts me to much! In

:47:43.:47:47.

relation to the preparation for the UK leaving the EU, can I ask how

:47:48.:47:52.

Northern Ireland will be represented taking into account the state of

:47:53.:47:55.

devolution and how does he believe he will be able to meet the needs of

:47:56.:48:00.

Northern Ireland at this time? We continue to urge all parties to come

:48:01.:48:05.

together so there can be a restoration of the devolved assembly

:48:06.:48:08.

and we can engage with all parties in Northern Ireland to make sure

:48:09.:48:11.

their views are represented in this period. I would say to him that

:48:12.:48:14.

earlier this week I was attending the British and Irish chambers of

:48:15.:48:18.

commerce where there was cute interest in maintaining strong and

:48:19.:48:21.

positive relations between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland

:48:22.:48:29.

and UK -- huge interest. How can any negotiator achieve any concession

:48:30.:48:33.

from any other negotiator if it is known in advance that he will not

:48:34.:48:38.

walk away if no concessions are given? My honourable friend is

:48:39.:48:43.

absolutely right and he crystallises the point on no deal is better than

:48:44.:48:51.

a bad deal and he demonstrates why the Labour proposal, apart from

:48:52.:48:53.

being completely impractical, would never be deliverable. Then the

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Secretary of State Guaranty regional aid for the West Midlands after

:49:00.:49:05.

Britain leaves the EU and more importantly, we have a fine

:49:06.:49:13.

candidate for the mayor's job. Certainly the West Midlands is one

:49:14.:49:16.

of the powerhouses of this country that will be important for powering

:49:17.:49:19.

the economy after we have left the EU. These will be matters discussed

:49:20.:49:26.

in the fullness of time. And with the new mayor. Andy Street. Three

:49:27.:49:33.

years ago David Cameron and I launched my first election campaign,

:49:34.:49:39.

British Sugar in Newark, three years and approaching three elections

:49:40.:49:42.

later, the sugar industry continues to employ hundreds of people in

:49:43.:49:48.

Nottinghamshire and keeps the field of Nottinghamshire full of rich beet

:49:49.:49:51.

crop. And the sugar industry is optimistic about the prospects for

:49:52.:49:57.

Brexit. I know he has acquired a reputation as something of a bruiser

:49:58.:50:03.

over the years but with 13 years of experience at Tate Lyle, will he

:50:04.:50:06.

retain his sweet tooth as he approaches the negotiations? I must

:50:07.:50:11.

admit I am wondering whether I should declare an interest on the

:50:12.:50:17.

half my pension fund if nothing else! But of course we will fight

:50:18.:50:20.

the interests of the sugar industry as much as anything else and will be

:50:21.:50:29.

successful. Mr Speaker, in my constituency energy is the largest

:50:30.:50:34.

sector, we have wind farms can nuclear power, gas even a panel

:50:35.:50:38.

going under the day to fit a electrical cables from one end of

:50:39.:50:42.

Cumbria into Lancashire. EDF energy is the largest employer and they are

:50:43.:50:48.

continually reinvesting and have plans to expand. Would my honourable

:50:49.:50:52.

friends agree with me that this is a sign of things to come? We have had

:50:53.:50:58.

a number of meetings with the energy industry including with EDF and I

:50:59.:51:02.

would be delighted to meet my honourable friend to discuss this

:51:03.:51:05.

further because making sure we continue to have the energy to power

:51:06.:51:08.

the British economy in the future is vital part of our considerations.

:51:09.:51:14.

Can the Minister confirmed that Britain's withdrawal from the EU

:51:15.:51:18.

will not affect the border controls and also the immigration controls

:51:19.:51:23.

that people from the EU are currently subjected to as they enter

:51:24.:51:31.

the UK? Clearly it is a part of our negotiating aims to have free and

:51:32.:51:34.

frictionless travel as well as trade. There will honestly be in the

:51:35.:51:41.

future more control of our borders but it will not be controlled the

:51:42.:51:45.

signs to inconvenience people, but designed to deliver the national

:51:46.:51:49.

interest and also keep this a free and open country that welcomes

:51:50.:51:52.

people from all over the world in the way we have done for centuries

:51:53.:51:57.

and will do for centuries to come. Is that the last question? Can I

:51:58.:52:02.

just wish everybody in the house are happy six weeks and I look forward

:52:03.:52:07.

to seeing some of them again! I thank the Right Honourable gentleman

:52:08.:52:10.

for what he said and for kind remarks about me earlier. Thank you.

:52:11.:52:17.

Points of order, I will start with Mr Alex Salmond. Have you had any

:52:18.:52:23.

notification of statement from the Minister of the Cabinet Office or

:52:24.:52:27.

the Prime Minister herself on the Channel 4 report of last evening

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which suggests that the Crown Prosecution Service has 30

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individuals they have to report on for possible prosecution between the

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20th of May and the early part of June? Given these include many

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members of this house and all of the implications that could have for

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reporting of any such decision in terms of coverage or the position of

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candidates during an election campaign, and given a court it would

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be a scandal of enormous proportions if any attempt was made to influence

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the timing of any such reports, but provision has surely been made as to

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how to cope with such an eventuality if it occurs during an election

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campaign. Given that the Prime Minister has decided to reappoint

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all of the campaign team who have already been fined by the Electoral

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Commission responsible for this Bhullar, we cannot get into our

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souls up the position of that campaign team having successfully

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bought one election being allowed to buy another. I thank him for his

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point of order. My response is as follows, the rules governing the

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conduct of elections are not a matter for the chair and I hope the

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house will understand I have given him a full opportunity to register

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his concerns but I hope the house will understand that I have no

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intention of being drawn into this matter which would be quite

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improper. What the police and the Crown Prosecution Service do and

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when is a matter for them. Members with views on these matters can and

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doubtless will express them. I will express no view on the matter. I'm

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not sure that is but I will give him the benefit of the doubt. Mr Dennis

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Skinner. When I raised this matter with the Prime Minister a week as

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yesterday, as a matter for you, really, since I did not get an

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answer from the Prime Minister, I was then fortunate enough to be

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called by you to the Justice Secretary of State to raise the

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matter again. And once more I did not receive a reply from the

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government. What has emerged now is that you in the chair are saying it

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is not a matter for me, the Prime Minister says, doesn't respond to my

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accusation that the election should not have been called and she didn't

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get a revelation, she called a snap election in order to try to beat the

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Crown Prosecution Service. That is what this election is all about and

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that is why it is a point of order for you, sir. The nature of the

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system is as has been described and I think there will be a general

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acceptance that the police and the prosecuting authorities have

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responsibility in these matters. My responsibility is most certainly

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lead to hear colleagues and two other on the side of latitude in

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hearing colleagues who want to raise points of order and I think I have

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done that very fairly. I have never ducked anything that is my

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responsibility but I think I know that which is not. Point of order,

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there are long-standing problems with academy sponsor AET. Yesterday

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they unceremoniously sacked the Board of Governors at Sandown

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Academy and there was a great deal of concern at local and

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accountability being dispensed with immediately before this house is

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dissolved. What steps can be taken before the 8th of June to make AET

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accountable for the actions? I think there are two answers. I respect him

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for raising a matter of real concern to him and many others. The first is

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that the concerns he has can and doubtless will be expressed during

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the election campaign, conversations do not cease to take place and the

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honourable gentleman must avail himself of the opportunities that

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will be forthcoming and will present themselves for which he will create.

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Secondly, the constitutional point, the government of this country

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continues. The government this country continues and if the

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honourable gentleman wishes to raise his concerns relevant ministers, it

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is absolutely open to him to do that but there is no further opportunity

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for the matters to be aired in this chamber. The honourable gentleman,

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to use a word deployed by the Right Honourable member for Chelmsford

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yesterday, as demonstrated against his perspicacity, upon which I

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congratulate him. The threat of deportation hangs over the head of

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constituent of mine who originated from the Anglophone minority in

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Cameroon. I have been in correspondence with the Home Office

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about the lack of guidance with Cameron. They face a very specific

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threat in that country and unconcerned as Parliament is

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dissolved and the civil service is already in purdah, my options for

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raising this case are extremely limited and with the threat of

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deportation remaining something that he faces, can you advise me how I

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will be able to ensure that his position is properly considered? The

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short answer is that I can advise him and he should continue his

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casework. Tasered continues to be conducted during election campaigns

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-- casework continues. And in the politest possible way I say to him,

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who I am sure is well capable of this, that he must balance whatever

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activities he is undertaking in attempted pursuit of his

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pre-election by knocking on doors or delivering leaflets or engaging with

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public meetings, with his continued diligent attention to his casework

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on behalf of constituents. That is what the honourable gentleman must

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do. He is going to be a busy bee but he will not be alone in that regard!

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Specialist delicacy must be kept until later. He will be aware that a

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number of reports are going to be coming out from the various

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committees of the house including the public house, he -- the public

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has committee. What can he do does put me in my efforts to make sure

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this house get the opportunity to properly scrutinise the report on

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HMRC closures which will affect my constituents in Livingston and take

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on board the point he makes about government continuing, but the

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government must not put out its trash and be allowed not to be

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properly scrutinised. What can he do to support me in the effort to make

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sure no decisions are made about jobs in my constituency and those

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are and decisions are paused until we return after the election? When

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she says what can he do, if the honourable lady means me, I must be

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honest with her and say that I can do absolutely nothing to assist the

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honourable lady in the course of the election campaign for the simple

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reason, and it is an inescapable fact and always has been, that when

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the house has been dissolved, the house does not meet and when the

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house does not meet there is no speaker in the chair and there are

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no exchanges from these green benches. However, the documents to

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which the honourable lady is referring are, or will be public

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documents so the honourable lady will study them carefully and she

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will marshal her arguments and she can write to ministers and if she

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wishes to XP sheet on these important matters in her

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constituency, it is perfectly open to her to do so and I have a feeling

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she probably will. Point of order. Oh, I think I

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mistake the honourable gentleman. In all my years in this House I have

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never heard of a case of fleeing in this House of one member against

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another. And I have just heard of a case. I wonder, as The House will

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not be sitting for a while but you will be here, and I'm sure you would

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not approve of one member acting in a bullying way to another. I will

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not name names but it is a Government male MP against an

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opposition female. I don't even want an inquiry on it but I want a set of

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rules that verbal or any other sort of bullying of one member to another

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is not allowed in this House, anywhere around this House. There is

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a code of conduct and it binds all members. I manifestly cannot comment

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on a particular case, not least because the honourable gentleman

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cannot give me and I wouldn't ask him to give me the details of it,

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but that principle, of the code of conduct, must be observed. It is

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sacrosanct and if the honourable gentleman does know, as I'm sure he

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does, of the personalities involved, it may be that as he is extremely

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experienced, he can remind members of that code of conduct very well.

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It was so serious that Wickes on both sides of the House were

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involved, so I'm sure he could make inquiries to find out the facts of

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the matter. Well, I am very happy to enquire of the respective whips

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offices. The honourable gentleman has given me an indication that his

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concern relates to a member of each of the two sides of the House. I am

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happy to make that inquiry but I don't want to raise the honourable

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gentleman's expectations, because it is not for me to act as arbiter in

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the matter, unless the alleged conduct relates to proceedings in

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the chamber, in which case I would take a very definite and distinct

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interest. But I think the holding response I will give to the Oracle

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gentleman, which I think is reasonable, is that I'm happy to

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make limited but necessary inquiries of a kind that I think proper for me

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to make. Point of order. On Tuesday, my honourable friend the member for

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Brentford and Isil Worth raised the devastating case of a baby whose

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family live in her and my constituency. Her question was met

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with short shrift by the Government. This continues to be an incredibly

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tough time for the family and our hearts go out to Connie, Chris,

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their parents, the parents, as they continue the campaign supported by

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the huge support of those known now as Charlie's Army. I appreciate that

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Parliament is being cut short by this election but isn't it right

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that the family continue to get the support that they need, that there

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is clarity on entitlement to legal aid in such cases and, as I call on

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the Justice Secretary also, to do all that she can that I would like

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to put on record my support today for the family and my view that it

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should, particularly in this complex case, it should be the parents that

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have the final say on the treatment of their son. I hope the honourable

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lady will understand if I feel that almost everything that could

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properly be said on that matter today has just been said by the

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honourable lady, and insofar as she requires any indication from me as

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to what might usefully be done in the days or weeks ahead, I think my

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counsel to her would be similar to that which I proffered to the

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honourable gentleman the member for Sheffield Central, namely, casework

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continues and the honourable lady should feel free and emboldened to

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make representations in pursuit of justice and closure. For the family

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concerned. I thank the honourable lady for raising this matter and

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putting it on the record. I'm sure she'll want to share it with those

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on whose behalf she has spoken. I want to raise a matter that strikes

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right at the heart of the integrity of our democratic system. This is

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based on two articles in the House magazine, one by a Conservative and

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one by a Labour member, sounding notes of alarm that our electoral

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system is at its most vulnerable at any time since 1818. There is

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powerful evidence of foreign governments interfering in the

:06:17.:06:21.

elections in America and possibly hear, and there is also overwhelming

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evidence of money being paid in huge amounts, entirely invisible to the

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system, by the use of methods and algorithms of artificial

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intelligence, in a manner that nobody understands except those who

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are participating in it, and we might well be vigilant in this

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election because the Electoral Commission do not have the tools to

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deal with the interference of this kind, and we are in a position where

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we're trying to have a modern election with the tools of the 19th

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century. Well, I'm grateful to the honourable gentleman for his point

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of order. He has registered a strong and deeply felt concern and that is

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now on the record. It is not, however, a matter for me, and I

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don't say it flippantly. Algorithms are certainly not a matter for the

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Chair and I am sure members will be reassured to hear me say that. The

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wide issues are issues for all of us. But the honourable gentleman,

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who has now served without interruption in this House for three

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decades, the overwhelming majority of which by his choice has been as a

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backbench member, has demonstrated once again, not least for the unfit

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of members completing their first Parliament -- for the benefit of

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members completing their first Parliament, that he has written the

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textbook on how to be a backbencher. He has published a book, which I am

:08:07.:08:12.

proud to have read. He has written the textbook in the sense that he

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exploits every, and I use exploits non-pejorative leak, he X Deutz --

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he exploits every opportunity to give raised to his concerns. He

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gratuitously has been the last point of order and I hope that we can

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leave it there. Order, order. The seating is suspended. Shortly before

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the sitting resumes, I shall cause the division Bell is to be. Order.

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-- I shall cause the division bells to be sounded.

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