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Hello and welcome to BBC Parliament with live coverage from the House of | :00:00. | :00:13. | |
Commons. Fresh from finalising negotiations with the DUP to support | :00:14. | :00:17. | |
the government, Theresa May will make a statement to the Commons on | :00:18. | :00:21. | |
the outcome of the recent European Council summit in Brussels. The | :00:22. | :00:24. | |
government has proposed offering EU migrants who have been in the UK for | :00:25. | :00:28. | |
five years the right to stay after Brexit. That will be followed by a | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
statement from the first secretary of state, Damian Green, on Northern | :00:35. | :00:36. | |
Ireland. As part of the deal with the DUP the government has committed | :00:37. | :00:46. | |
to an additional ?1 billion in spending commitments for Northern | :00:47. | :00:48. | |
Ireland. The communities and Local Government Secretary Sajid Javid | :00:49. | :00:48. | |
would also make a statement. Order. Order. I have a short | :00:49. | :01:24. | |
statement to make covering three separate matters. The house was | :01:25. | :01:29. | |
informed before the general election that, following the shocking attack | :01:30. | :01:34. | |
on Westminster Bridge and these Houses of Parliament in March, the | :01:35. | :01:39. | |
Lord Speaker and I commissioned an external independent review of how | :01:40. | :01:45. | |
the perimeter of the Parliamentary estate, including outbuildings, is | :01:46. | :01:53. | |
secured and protected. At the same time, the clerks of both houses | :01:54. | :01:56. | |
commissioned an externally led review of the lessons learned from | :01:57. | :02:01. | |
the operation inside Parliament of the incident management framework. | :02:02. | :02:07. | |
The report of the first review has now been received and formal | :02:08. | :02:12. | |
delivery of the second is imminent. Both will be carefully considered. I | :02:13. | :02:18. | |
can assure the house that appropriate action will be taken | :02:19. | :02:24. | |
swiftly and decisively. As colleagues will be aware, | :02:25. | :02:28. | |
Parliament's IT service was subjected to a sustained and | :02:29. | :02:32. | |
determined cyber attack over the weekend. Parliament has robust | :02:33. | :02:36. | |
measures in place to protect all of our accounts and systems. In order | :02:37. | :02:42. | |
to protect our core network and systems it was necessary temporarily | :02:43. | :02:47. | |
to restrict remote access to the network which meant that some | :02:48. | :02:52. | |
colleagues were unable to access their e-mail accounts. Good progress | :02:53. | :02:59. | |
is being made in restoring remote access. Constituency offices have | :03:00. | :03:02. | |
been given priority so that our critical work in constituencies can | :03:03. | :03:09. | |
continue. Parliament's first priority has been to ensure that the | :03:10. | :03:13. | |
business of both houses can continue. It is self-evident that | :03:14. | :03:18. | |
this has been achieved and I am sure colleagues will join me in thanking | :03:19. | :03:22. | |
all of those Parliamentary staff who have worked intensively over the | :03:23. | :03:27. | |
past few days to ensure that our parliamentary democracy can operate | :03:28. | :03:36. | |
freely. On Thursday last I informed the house about arrangements for the | :03:37. | :03:42. | |
election of deputy speakers. Nominations are due tomorrow and the | :03:43. | :03:45. | |
ballot will be held on Wednesday morning. I thought it would be | :03:46. | :03:50. | |
helpful to all members if I informed the house now rather than late | :03:51. | :03:57. | |
tomorrow afternoon when nominations close that I have decided after | :03:58. | :04:03. | |
consultation with the clerks, and in the light of technical advice from | :04:04. | :04:08. | |
the electoral reform Society for the house's advisers on ballots, that | :04:09. | :04:15. | |
is, and I stress if, there is only one candidate from the conservative | :04:16. | :04:21. | |
side of the house and there are more than two candidates from the other | :04:22. | :04:27. | |
side, the name of the soul conservative candidate will not be | :04:28. | :04:34. | |
on the ballot paper and will be declared in due course as elected as | :04:35. | :04:39. | |
first deputy chairman of ways and Means, in much the same way as | :04:40. | :04:44. | |
happens when there is an unopposed candidate for the chair of a select | :04:45. | :04:50. | |
committee. I hope that this will help members in all parts of the | :04:51. | :04:58. | |
house to deal with the perceived complexity is of the STV system to | :04:59. | :05:04. | |
which we are bound idly standing orders. If, I recognise this is in | :05:05. | :05:14. | |
the realms of conjecture, colleagues are in anyway puzzles by its | :05:15. | :05:21. | |
operation, they are welcome to seek advice from the public bill office | :05:22. | :05:32. | |
or the library, or indeed Wikipedia. Statement, the Prime Minister. With | :05:33. | :05:39. | |
permission, Mr Speaker, I would like to make a statement on last week's | :05:40. | :05:44. | |
European Council and the proposals we are publishing today which, on a | :05:45. | :05:48. | |
reciprocal basis, seek to give reassurance and certainty to EU | :05:49. | :05:51. | |
citizens who have made their homes and lives in our country. This | :05:52. | :05:57. | |
council followed the formal start of the negotiations for the United | :05:58. | :06:01. | |
Kingdom's departure from the EU as well as marking the first | :06:02. | :06:06. | |
anniversary of the referendum that led to that decision. In that | :06:07. | :06:09. | |
referendum the British people chose to take back control of our laws, | :06:10. | :06:16. | |
our money and our borders, to restore supremacy to this Parliament | :06:17. | :06:20. | |
and reclaim our sense of national determination and this government | :06:21. | :06:23. | |
will fulfil the democratic will of the British people. But the | :06:24. | :06:32. | |
referendum was not a vote to turn our backs on our friends and | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
neighbours. Indeed, as we become ever more internationalist in our | :06:37. | :06:40. | |
outlook and as we build the global Britain we want to see, we will | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
continue to be reliable partners, willing allies and close friends | :06:45. | :06:48. | |
with all the member states of the European Union. We want to work with | :06:49. | :06:54. | |
one another to make sure we are all safer, more secure and more | :06:55. | :06:58. | |
prosperous through our continued friendship. We want to buy each | :06:59. | :07:02. | |
other's goods and services and trade as freely as possible and we will | :07:03. | :07:08. | |
continue to celebrate and defend the liberal democratic values we share | :07:09. | :07:11. | |
and to protect those values that are the foundation of our freedoms and | :07:12. | :07:15. | |
way of life. In short we want to build what I have described as a | :07:16. | :07:20. | |
newcomer deep and special partnership between a competent, | :07:21. | :07:23. | |
self-governing, global Britain and all our friends and allies in the | :07:24. | :07:29. | |
European Union. -- are confident also that the positive and | :07:30. | :07:33. | |
constructive spirit in which my right honourable friend the | :07:34. | :07:36. | |
Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union began the formal | :07:37. | :07:39. | |
negotiations last week and it is the same spirit in which the United | :07:40. | :07:43. | |
Kingdom made a full contribution to all the issues that this council | :07:44. | :07:47. | |
raised including on security, migration, climate change and trade. | :07:48. | :07:53. | |
On security and I thank our European partners for their condolences and | :07:54. | :07:57. | |
for their resolve in standing with us following the appalling terrorist | :07:58. | :08:01. | |
attacks that the UK has suffered in recent weeks. Those attacks have | :08:02. | :08:07. | |
seen citizens from across Europe tragically killed and injured but | :08:08. | :08:10. | |
they have also seen our citizens standing together in some of the | :08:11. | :08:15. | |
most inspiring ways. At London Bridge we saw a Spanish bank are | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
tragically killed as he rushed to the aid of a woman being attacked. | :08:20. | :08:24. | |
And we saw mania and Baker fighting of the terrorists and giving shelter | :08:25. | :08:31. | |
to Londoners in his bakery. -- a Romanian bakery. These show how far | :08:32. | :08:35. | |
from budding as such attacks on our way of life will only serve to | :08:36. | :08:43. | |
strengthen our shared unity and resolve but, Mr Speaker, these | :08:44. | :08:46. | |
attacks also showed that we need to respond to a new trend in the threat | :08:47. | :08:50. | |
we face as terrorism breeds terrorism and perpetrators are | :08:51. | :08:53. | |
inspired to attack by copying one another using the crudest of means. | :08:54. | :08:58. | |
So building on the bilateral agreement I reached with President | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
Macron earlier this month, at this council I argued that we must come | :09:03. | :09:07. | |
together to defeat the hateful and extremist ideologies that inspired | :09:08. | :09:11. | |
the attacks and to stop the Internet being used as a safe space for | :09:12. | :09:17. | |
extremists. When one third of all links to Daesh propaganda are shared | :09:18. | :09:22. | |
within the first hour of release, it is not enough for technology | :09:23. | :09:26. | |
companies to respond reactively to extremist content on their | :09:27. | :09:31. | |
platforms. The council agreed to put pressure on these companies to do | :09:32. | :09:35. | |
more to remove this content automatically and also to ensure | :09:36. | :09:39. | |
that law enforcement agencies can access encrypted data. This was a | :09:40. | :09:43. | |
significant step forward and we will continue to work together with our | :09:44. | :09:47. | |
European partners to combat this evil, to defend our values and to | :09:48. | :09:53. | |
keep our citizens safe. Turning to other issues, on migration the | :09:54. | :09:57. | |
council recommitted to be comprehensive approach that the UK | :09:58. | :10:00. | |
has advocated dealing with the drivers migration while also doing | :10:01. | :10:05. | |
more to stem the flow. And at this summit I confirmed a new UK | :10:06. | :10:10. | |
commitment of ?75 million to meet urgent humanitarian needs in the | :10:11. | :10:15. | |
central Mediterranean while also facilitating voluntary returns of | :10:16. | :10:17. | |
migrant making these treacherous journeys. On trade, as the UK leads | :10:18. | :10:22. | |
the EU, we will be forging trade deals around the world with old | :10:23. | :10:26. | |
friends and new allies alike but this | :10:27. | :10:41. | |
will not undermine the EU's trade agenda, it is not even in | :10:42. | :10:45. | |
competition with it. For as long as we remain part of the EU we will | :10:46. | :10:48. | |
continue to press for an a vicious trade agenda that can deliver jobs | :10:49. | :10:50. | |
and growth across the continent and that is what I did at this council | :10:51. | :10:53. | |
where there was a particular focus on the work towards deals with | :10:54. | :10:55. | |
Japan, Mexico and the Machis or block of South American countries. | :10:56. | :10:56. | |
And on climate change is the council riven the commitment of all member | :10:57. | :10:59. | |
states to fully impairment the Paris agreement. The UK has already | :11:00. | :11:04. | |
reaffirmed its own commitment and I have expressed my disappointment to | :11:05. | :11:07. | |
President Trump that he has taken a different decision. We will continue | :11:08. | :11:10. | |
to make the case to our American allies to think again. Mr Speaker, | :11:11. | :11:17. | |
turning to citizens rights, EU citizens make an invaluable | :11:18. | :11:21. | |
contribution to our United Kingdom, to our economy, our public services | :11:22. | :11:25. | |
and everyday lives. They are an integral part of the economic | :11:26. | :11:29. | |
cultural and social fabric of the country and I have always been clear | :11:30. | :11:32. | |
I want to protect their rights. That is why I initially sought an | :11:33. | :11:35. | |
agreement on this before we triggered Article 50. | :11:36. | :11:40. | |
It is why I am making it an immediate priority at the beginning | :11:41. | :11:46. | |
of negotiations. Mr Speaker, that agreement must be reciprocal because | :11:47. | :11:49. | |
we must protect the rights of UK citizens living in EU member states | :11:50. | :11:55. | |
too. At the council I set out some of the principles I believe should | :11:56. | :11:58. | |
underlie that reciprocal agreement and there was a very positive | :11:59. | :12:01. | |
response from individual leaders and a strong sense of mutual goodwill in | :12:02. | :12:05. | |
trying to reach such an agreement as soon as possible. So, today we are | :12:06. | :12:11. | |
publishing detailed proposals to do exactly that. Let me set out the key | :12:12. | :12:17. | |
points for the House. First, we want certainty. I know there has been | :12:18. | :12:20. | |
some anxiety about what would happen to EU citizens at the point we leave | :12:21. | :12:26. | |
the European Union. Today, I want to put that anxiety to rest come I want | :12:27. | :12:31. | |
to completely reassure people that under these plans no EU citizen | :12:32. | :12:35. | |
currently here will be asked to leave at the point the UK leaves the | :12:36. | :12:42. | |
EU. We want you to stay for subsecond, any EU citizen in the UK | :12:43. | :12:46. | |
with five years continuous residence at a specified cut-off date will be | :12:47. | :12:50. | |
granted settled status and will be treated as if they were UK citizens | :12:51. | :12:55. | |
for health care, education, benefits and pensions. While any EU citizens | :12:56. | :13:00. | |
with any less than five years residents who arrived before the | :13:01. | :13:04. | |
cut-off date specified will be at the stay until they have the five | :13:05. | :13:09. | |
years of residence to apply for UK settled status. Third, the specified | :13:10. | :13:12. | |
cut-off date will be the subject of discussions but no earlier than the | :13:13. | :13:15. | |
date which a good Article 50 and no later than the date we leave the EU. | :13:16. | :13:21. | |
Fourth, no families will be split up. Family dependents who join a | :13:22. | :13:25. | |
qualifying EU citizen here before the UK's exit will be able to apply | :13:26. | :13:29. | |
for settled status after five years command after the UK has left the | :13:30. | :13:33. | |
European Union EU citizens with subtle status will be able to bring | :13:34. | :13:37. | |
family members from overseas in the same terms as British nationals. | :13:38. | :13:42. | |
Fifth, there will be no cliff edge. There will be a grace period of up | :13:43. | :13:46. | |
to two years to allow people to regularise their status. While those | :13:47. | :13:51. | |
EU citizens who arrived in the UK after the specified cut-off date | :13:52. | :13:53. | |
will be allowed to remain in the UK for at least a temporary period and | :13:54. | :13:59. | |
may still become eligible to settle permanently. Sixth, the system of | :14:00. | :14:01. | |
registration that citizens go through will be as streamlined and | :14:02. | :14:05. | |
light touch as possible and we intend to remove some of the | :14:06. | :14:07. | |
technical requirements currently needed to obtain permanent residents | :14:08. | :14:13. | |
not require anyone to demonstrate not require anyone to demonstrate | :14:14. | :14:14. | |
they have held comprehensive sickness insurance. Seven, we expect | :14:15. | :14:21. | |
this offer to be extended on a reciprocal basis to nationals of | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
Norway, Iceland, Lichtenstein and Switzerland, and the reciprocal | :14:26. | :14:28. | |
agreement on citizens' rights will apply to the entire United Kingdom | :14:29. | :14:33. | |
and Gibraltar. Eighth, this is all without prejudice to the Common | :14:34. | :14:38. | |
Travel Area arrangements that exist between the UK and Ireland. We will | :14:39. | :14:41. | |
preserve the freedoms that UK and Irish nationals currently enjoy in | :14:42. | :14:45. | |
each other's Stead, and Irish citizens will not need to apply for | :14:46. | :14:48. | |
permanent residence to protect these entitlements. And finally, the UK | :14:49. | :14:54. | |
will continue to export and operate the UK state pension and provide | :14:55. | :14:57. | |
associated health care cover within the EU. We will continue to protect | :14:58. | :15:02. | |
the export of other benefits and associated health care cover where | :15:03. | :15:05. | |
the individual is in receipt of those benefits on the specified | :15:06. | :15:09. | |
cut-off date. Subject to negotiations we want to continue | :15:10. | :15:11. | |
participating in the European health insurance card scheme so that UK | :15:12. | :15:16. | |
cardholders could continue to benefit from free or reduced cost | :15:17. | :15:20. | |
health care while on a temporary stay in the EU and vice versa for EU | :15:21. | :15:25. | |
cardholders visiting the UK. Mr Speaker, this is a fair and serious | :15:26. | :15:31. | |
offer. Our obligations in the withdrawal treaty with the EU will | :15:32. | :15:37. | |
be binding on the UK as a matter of international law. We will | :15:38. | :15:41. | |
incorporate commitments into UK law guaranteeing that we will stand | :15:42. | :15:44. | |
firmly by our part of the deal. So our offer will give those 3 million | :15:45. | :15:48. | |
EU citizens in the UK certainty about the future of their lives and | :15:49. | :15:52. | |
a reciprocal agreement will provide the same certainty for the more than | :15:53. | :15:56. | |
1 million UK citizens living in the European Union. Mr Speaker, one year | :15:57. | :16:02. | |
on from that momentous decision to leave the European Union, let us | :16:03. | :16:05. | |
remember what we are seeking to achieve with these negotiations. We | :16:06. | :16:10. | |
are withdrawing from a system of treaties and bureaucracy that does | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
not work for us. But we're not withdrawing from the valleys and | :16:15. | :16:17. | |
solidarity that we share with our European neighbours. As a confident | :16:18. | :16:22. | |
at outward looking and self-governing nation, we know that | :16:23. | :16:25. | |
it's not just our past that isn't wind in the fortunes of our friends | :16:26. | :16:29. | |
and neighbours, it is our future too. That is why we want this new, | :16:30. | :16:34. | |
deep and special partnership and why we approach these negotiations with | :16:35. | :16:38. | |
optimism. Because, a good deal for Britain and a good deal for Europe | :16:39. | :16:41. | |
are not competing alternatives. They are the best single path to a | :16:42. | :16:46. | |
brighter future for all our children and grandchildren. That I believe is | :16:47. | :16:51. | |
the future the British people voted for and that is the future I want is | :16:52. | :16:54. | |
to secure, and I commend this statement to the House. SPEAKER: | :16:55. | :17:02. | |
Jeremy Corbyn. Thank you, Mr Speaker. First of all, Mr Speaker, | :17:03. | :17:05. | |
could I join you in thanking all staff at the House of Commons for | :17:06. | :17:08. | |
the work they did over the weekend to ensure that our electronic | :17:09. | :17:11. | |
systems are safe and I would be grateful if you can pass that on to | :17:12. | :17:15. | |
staff. I would want to thank the prime list for the advanced copy of | :17:16. | :17:20. | |
the statement we have just heard. 68 days ago the Prime Minister stood on | :17:21. | :17:23. | |
the steps of Downing Street and asked this country to give her a | :17:24. | :17:27. | |
strong mandate to negotiate Brexit. She offered little by way of | :17:28. | :17:32. | |
strategy or plan, more hollow sound bites and grandstanding and the past | :17:33. | :17:39. | |
six months the Prime Minister has stuck to her mantra. No deal is | :17:40. | :17:44. | |
better than a bad deal. And continued with her threat to turn | :17:45. | :17:48. | |
Britain into an offshore tax haven aimed at undercutting the European | :17:49. | :17:57. | |
Union. By ripping up regulation, hacking back public services, and | :17:58. | :18:01. | |
leading a race to the bottom in pay and conditions. Well, Mr Speaker, | :18:02. | :18:04. | |
the British people saw through that rhetoric, they saw through the | :18:05. | :18:08. | |
threats, and instead of giving the Prime Minister the mandate she | :18:09. | :18:13. | |
wanted, they rejected in large numbers the deregulated, low-wage | :18:14. | :18:16. | |
future the Conservative Party has in mind for this country. She wanted a | :18:17. | :18:23. | |
landslide. She lost her majority. Now her mandate is in tatters. But | :18:24. | :18:28. | |
the Prime Minister still insists she is the best person to get a good | :18:29. | :18:34. | |
deal for Britain. And incredibly, and incredibly... Incredibly | :18:35. | :18:41. | |
believes she is the best person to strike a deal with the very people | :18:42. | :18:44. | |
she spent the last six months threatening and hectoring. The truth | :18:45. | :18:50. | |
is this country needs a new approach to Brexit that a Tory government | :18:51. | :18:55. | |
simply cannot deliver. They are taking Britain down a reckless path, | :18:56. | :18:59. | |
prepared to put jobs and living standards at risk just to maintain | :19:00. | :19:03. | |
support within her own party and keep her government in office. The | :19:04. | :19:08. | |
cracks are already beginning to appear, while some in her party want | :19:09. | :19:14. | |
to move towards Labour's approach, to Brexit, at least... At least in | :19:15. | :19:19. | |
terms... At least in terms of protecting jobs, trade and the | :19:20. | :19:24. | |
economy the hard right voices in her Cabinet, and on her backbenchers, | :19:25. | :19:28. | |
are still determined to force Britain over a cliff edge. The Prime | :19:29. | :19:35. | |
Minister needs to ignore them. She needs now to listen. So I ask her, | :19:36. | :19:40. | |
how she promised to restore supremacy to this parliament? Will | :19:41. | :19:43. | |
she now be more transparent and involve it properly in the Brexit | :19:44. | :19:48. | |
negotiation process? Will she now finally rule out the possibility of | :19:49. | :19:52. | |
no deal being a viable option for this country? The choice is hers. Mr | :19:53. | :20:00. | |
Speaker, the Prime Minister went to Brussels last week to make what she | :20:01. | :20:08. | |
described as "A generous offer to EU nationals in this country." The | :20:09. | :20:12. | |
truth is it's too little too late. That could have been done and should | :20:13. | :20:17. | |
have been done a year ago when Labour put that very proposal to the | :20:18. | :20:22. | |
House of Commons. But by making an offer only after negotiations have | :20:23. | :20:27. | |
begun, the Prime Minister has dragged the issue of citizens and | :20:28. | :20:30. | |
families deep into the complex and delicate negotiations of our future | :20:31. | :20:37. | |
trade relations with the European Union, which she herself has been | :20:38. | :20:40. | |
willing to say may result in failure. This isn't a generous | :20:41. | :20:46. | |
offer. This is confirmation that the government is prepared to use people | :20:47. | :20:51. | |
as bargaining chips. So, can the Prime Minister now confirmed what | :20:52. | :20:56. | |
will happen to her offer to nationals in this country if no deal | :20:57. | :21:00. | |
is reached? What happens to the rights of family reunion which EU | :21:01. | :21:06. | |
citizens are currently entitled to? Does the Prime Minister in Visic the | :21:07. | :21:11. | |
five-year period EU nationals must accumulate here in Britain will also | :21:12. | :21:16. | |
be the same for British citizens who want to retain the right to live in | :21:17. | :21:21. | |
other parts of the European Union? And can the Prime Minister tell the | :21:22. | :21:25. | |
House if these proposals were drawn up to take into account the impact | :21:26. | :21:29. | |
on our public services? Especially the National Health Service where | :21:30. | :21:34. | |
there is great concern over falling numbers of nurses and doctors | :21:35. | :21:41. | |
already. Mr Speaker, what makes this situation even more remarkable is | :21:42. | :21:44. | |
what we learned this weekend from the former Chancellor of the | :21:45. | :21:49. | |
Exchequer. That immediately after last year's referendum the | :21:50. | :21:51. | |
government was willing to give assurances to EU nationals in this | :21:52. | :21:57. | |
country, however, that was blocked in the Cabinet by the Prime Minister | :21:58. | :22:05. | |
herself. This is people's lives we are talking about. Our neighbours, | :22:06. | :22:09. | |
friends, husbands, wives, children. The Prime Minister really didn't | :22:10. | :22:13. | |
care about them then. Why should they believe she cares about them | :22:14. | :22:20. | |
now? Mr Speaker, the country needs a change of direction. People are | :22:21. | :22:24. | |
tired of tough talk from a weak government and a weak Prime | :22:25. | :22:28. | |
Minister. The government needs to listen put the national interest | :22:29. | :22:32. | |
first, and deliver a Brexit for the many, not the few, one that puts | :22:33. | :22:37. | |
jobs, the economy and living standards first, by building a new | :22:38. | :22:40. | |
partnership with the European Union on the base of common interest and | :22:41. | :22:46. | |
common values. One that protects living standards and promotes human | :22:47. | :22:51. | |
rights through new trade deals throughout the world. That is what | :22:52. | :22:55. | |
Labour would do. The Prime Minister has no mandate at home and no | :22:56. | :23:00. | |
mandate abroad. Isn't it the case, Mr Speaker, that it would only be a | :23:01. | :23:03. | |
Labour government that works for the whole country that could deliver a | :23:04. | :23:07. | |
Brexit that works for all and protects those jobs and living | :23:08. | :23:11. | |
standards that are at risk while this government remains in office? | :23:12. | :23:19. | |
Thank you, Mr Speaker. The Right Honourable gentleman has talked | :23:20. | :23:23. | |
about a variety of this useful stuff he talked about Parliament and | :23:24. | :23:25. | |
transparency and we have been very clear there will be a vote in this | :23:26. | :23:30. | |
Parliament on the deal that has been negotiated with the European Union | :23:31. | :23:33. | |
and we expect that to take place before the European Parliament has | :23:34. | :23:38. | |
an opportunity to vote on it. There will be many opportunities in | :23:39. | :23:42. | |
legislation and other ways coming in the coming weeks and months in | :23:43. | :23:46. | |
Parliament to make its views known on these various matters. Let me | :23:47. | :23:50. | |
come onto the position that the Right Honourable gentleman referred | :23:51. | :23:53. | |
to in relation to workers' rights. We are very clear, as I was in the | :23:54. | :23:57. | |
objectives I set out in the Lancaster House speech in January, | :23:58. | :24:01. | |
as I have continued to set out in the Article 50 letter and elsewhere | :24:02. | :24:04. | |
that we want to protect workers' rights, indeed, we want to enhance | :24:05. | :24:10. | |
workers' rights. He talks about no plan. I set out our objectives in | :24:11. | :24:14. | |
that Lancaster House speech and in the Article 50 letter and have | :24:15. | :24:17. | |
continued to set out those objectives, whereas the Labour Party | :24:18. | :24:21. | |
has had seven plans on Brexit in nine months, we have members of the | :24:22. | :24:25. | |
Labour Party front bench, Shadow Home Secretary, shadow chief | :24:26. | :24:28. | |
secretary, Shadow Attorney General, who want to retain free movement. We | :24:29. | :24:32. | |
have 35 lead MPs who want to retain membership of the Single Market. | :24:33. | :24:35. | |
Neither of these, as far as I'm aware, where in the Labour Party | :24:36. | :24:41. | |
manifesto that was stood on in the last election. And then we get onto | :24:42. | :24:44. | |
the whole issue... Then we get onto the whole issue of... We get onto | :24:45. | :24:49. | |
the issue of the negotiations on EU citizens and their rights here in | :24:50. | :24:54. | |
the United Kingdom. I have to say to the Right Honourable gentleman, I | :24:55. | :24:58. | |
find it bizarre, if not worrying, that in the position he holds he's | :24:59. | :25:02. | |
willing to stand in this House and say he has no care for UK citizens | :25:03. | :25:08. | |
living in the European Union. Because, that is what he is saying. | :25:09. | :25:16. | |
I said... I said at... I said at an early stage that we wanted to | :25:17. | :25:21. | |
address the EU citizens' rights issue early. The European Union were | :25:22. | :25:26. | |
clear that there was no negotiation before notification. It is one of | :25:27. | :25:30. | |
the first issues that we are addressing after notification. They | :25:31. | :25:34. | |
were clear it had to be undertaken on a reciprocal basis and they were | :25:35. | :25:36. | |
clear that whatever the United Kingdom said the European Union | :25:37. | :25:42. | |
would still be arguing about its proposals in relation to the | :25:43. | :25:46. | |
protection of rights for EU citizens. People who say that we | :25:47. | :25:49. | |
should be not dealing on this as a reciprocal basis simply don't | :25:50. | :25:53. | |
understand what negotiations are about, because the other side will | :25:54. | :25:57. | |
be negotiating on these issues. He talks about the issue of no deal | :25:58. | :26:04. | |
being better than a bad deal. I will tell him what I worry about in terms | :26:05. | :26:08. | |
of a bad deal. I worry about those... I worry about those who | :26:09. | :26:13. | |
appeared to suggest in Europe that we should be punished in some sense | :26:14. | :26:17. | |
for leaving the European Union. And I worry about those who command from | :26:18. | :26:21. | |
what he says, I think the Leader of the Opposition in business | :26:22. | :26:25. | |
particular camp, we should take any deal regardless of the Bill and | :26:26. | :26:28. | |
regardless of the circumstances. He would negotiate the worst deal with | :26:29. | :26:34. | |
the biggest possible Bill. And finally, can I just say to the Right | :26:35. | :26:39. | |
Honourable gentleman, he talks about wanting a future relationship based | :26:40. | :26:45. | |
on a partnership of values, shared values with trade deals across the | :26:46. | :26:49. | |
world. That's exactly what I said in my statement so I suggest he starts | :26:50. | :26:52. | |
supporting the government on his Brexit arrangements. | :26:53. | :26:57. | |
Given Brexit and our vital red light on the European court and the repeal | :26:58. | :27:07. | |
of the 1972 act, would my right honourable friend agree that a | :27:08. | :27:12. | |
reasonable framework to protect reciprocal citizens rights whilst | :27:13. | :27:14. | |
making no concession at all on preserving our own Westminster | :27:15. | :27:19. | |
jurisdiction and judicial sovereignty would be a tribunal | :27:20. | :27:23. | |
system such as I outlined in a house last week, which would be along the | :27:24. | :27:31. | |
lines similar to a court and a parallel sort of agreement. My | :27:32. | :27:34. | |
honourable friend raises an interesting proposal and of course | :27:35. | :27:38. | |
we are looking at a variety of arrangements for the enforcement of | :27:39. | :27:42. | |
agreements that we come to pull is in relation to the EU citizens | :27:43. | :27:47. | |
rights, if these form part of the withdrawal pretty they will be | :27:48. | :27:51. | |
enshrined in international law but I also think we should recognise that | :27:52. | :27:55. | |
our courts are world renowned and respected around the world and what | :27:56. | :27:59. | |
I want to receive and would expect is that these citizens rights for EU | :28:00. | :28:03. | |
citizens in the UK would be upheld and enforced by our courts in the | :28:04. | :28:08. | |
same way as UK citizens rights are upheld and enforced by our courts. | :28:09. | :28:15. | |
If I could make some short remarks on the sad passing of Gordon Wilson | :28:16. | :28:20. | |
who was member of Parliament for Dundee East from 1974 to 1987 and | :28:21. | :28:26. | |
I'm sure everybody in the house would wish to pass their condolences | :28:27. | :28:30. | |
to his family. Those of us on these benches were honoured to have the | :28:31. | :28:34. | |
wisdom, wit and intelligence of Gordon with us for many decades and | :28:35. | :28:37. | |
he spoke with me on Wednesday before I entered with chamber to respond to | :28:38. | :28:42. | |
the Queen's speech. You will be sadly missed by all of us, | :28:43. | :28:46. | |
particularly those on these benches. I think the Prime for above site for | :28:47. | :28:51. | |
the government of the Marc Vandal EU citizens. It was more than | :28:52. | :28:54. | |
concerning to open the document designed to settle the lives of many | :28:55. | :28:58. | |
citizens appear to discover it leaves many more questions than | :28:59. | :29:02. | |
answers. The Prime Minister went to Brussels last week and presented a | :29:03. | :29:05. | |
plan for EU nationals that fell short of expectations with the Dutch | :29:06. | :29:09. | |
president stating there are thousands of questions to ask about | :29:10. | :29:13. | |
the proposal. Will the prime of the confirmed that the joint ministerial | :29:14. | :29:17. | |
committee was consulted on the proposals published to date? When | :29:18. | :29:22. | |
will she honoured the pledge of a united United Kingdom approach to | :29:23. | :29:25. | |
Brexit and give Scotland a place at negotiating tables? Has she got that | :29:26. | :29:31. | |
her plan for EU nationals which she presented last week and when will | :29:32. | :29:35. | |
the costings be laid before the house? Will she confirm that EU | :29:36. | :29:39. | |
citizens in Scotland will not have to fill out the 85 page paper form | :29:40. | :29:46. | |
for residency? In the early hours after the referendum result, the | :29:47. | :29:48. | |
First Minister of Scotland called loud and clear for the Prime | :29:49. | :29:52. | |
Minister to unilaterally guarantee EU citizens rights. It is therefore | :29:53. | :29:57. | |
shocking to learn that the then Foreign Minister had pledged just to | :29:58. | :30:01. | |
do that but the current Prime Minister blocked the plan -- the | :30:02. | :30:05. | |
then Prime Minister. Does she accept she was wrong and will she now do | :30:06. | :30:10. | |
the right thing and reassure thousands of concern EU nationals | :30:11. | :30:15. | |
living in the UK by unilaterally guaranteeing their rights? We | :30:16. | :30:19. | |
created these circumstances we should be showing leadership. We | :30:20. | :30:23. | |
welcome the EU summit conclusions, especially those on jobs, growth and | :30:24. | :30:27. | |
competitiveness. The SMB was the birth government in the UK to | :30:28. | :30:30. | |
publish a plan for Brexit, putting the single market at the hand of | :30:31. | :30:40. | |
that -- the SNP. Additional summit conclusions on the Paris agreement | :30:41. | :30:44. | |
are very welcome in ensuring the agreement is implemented after the | :30:45. | :30:48. | |
US withdrawal last month. The Prime Minister must tell the house what | :30:49. | :30:53. | |
the UK's next step will be up in permitting the agreement in | :30:54. | :30:55. | |
cooperation with our EU friends. I welcome the announcement of the | :30:56. | :31:00. | |
upgrading of the pensions of those living in the EU but will be | :31:01. | :31:03. | |
premised on the net to pensioners in other parts of the world that | :31:04. | :31:07. | |
currently don't benefit from operating? And on the heart of these | :31:08. | :31:11. | |
benches I send best wishes to the Estonian president ahead of tentacle | :31:12. | :31:18. | |
over -- ahead of him taking over on the 1st of July. First of all may I | :31:19. | :31:24. | |
join the honourable gentleman in passing condolences to the family | :31:25. | :31:28. | |
and friends of Gordon Wilson and I am sorry to hear of his passing. He | :31:29. | :31:36. | |
has raised a number of issues within the comments that he has made. Can I | :31:37. | :31:41. | |
reiterate the point about the process of application? He referred | :31:42. | :31:45. | |
to the 85 page application paper, as I said, the hope with its wooden to | :31:46. | :31:50. | |
introduce a streamlined, light touch approach on this so people will not | :31:51. | :31:56. | |
have to apply on and 85 page paper as yet asked. He referred to the | :31:57. | :31:59. | |
story in the Evening Standard and I have to say that is not my | :32:00. | :32:10. | |
recollection. What we're doing today is setting out what I believe it's a | :32:11. | :32:15. | |
fair and serious offer to EU citizens here in the UK but we want | :32:16. | :32:22. | |
to have a care for those UK citizens who are living in the European | :32:23. | :32:27. | |
Union. Anna might remind the honourable gentleman that during the | :32:28. | :32:30. | |
Scottish independence referendum the First Minister told EU nationals | :32:31. | :32:35. | |
that if an independent Scotland was not allowed to rejoin the EU, they | :32:36. | :32:38. | |
would lose the right to stay here. We're saying that to EU nationals | :32:39. | :32:44. | |
here, we are saying we want you to stay in this paper is the basis on | :32:45. | :32:48. | |
which they can stay and nobody will be forced to leave. I congratulate | :32:49. | :32:53. | |
the Prime Minister on her policy which will bring many benefits to | :32:54. | :32:57. | |
the UK and the rest of the EU also can she tell the house a little more | :32:58. | :33:02. | |
about how far we can do in negotiating free trade agreement | :33:03. | :33:05. | |
with non-EU countries before we leave and when we will learn how we | :33:06. | :33:09. | |
can spend all the money we're going to save? As my right honourable | :33:10. | :33:18. | |
friend will know, one of the issues that we proposed during the election | :33:19. | :33:22. | |
campaign was that some of the money that is returned is spent in a | :33:23. | :33:25. | |
Shared Prosperity Fund here in the UK which will be looking to deal | :33:26. | :33:30. | |
with and remove the disparities that occur within regions and nations and | :33:31. | :33:35. | |
between the part of the United Kingdom. As regards the trade deals | :33:36. | :33:39. | |
for the rest of the world, of course legally we cannot sign up to | :33:40. | :33:42. | |
free-trade agreements with other parties until we are no longer | :33:43. | :33:46. | |
members of the European Union but there is much work that might right | :33:47. | :33:50. | |
honourable friend the Secretary of State for International Development | :33:51. | :33:52. | |
is doing with other countries around the world such as India and America, | :33:53. | :33:57. | |
to look to see what trade benefits we can achieve before leaving the EU | :33:58. | :34:01. | |
by removing some of the barriers that currently exist to trade | :34:02. | :34:07. | |
between our countries. The Prime Minister will be aware that EU | :34:08. | :34:11. | |
citizens living and working here are particularly concerned about the | :34:12. | :34:15. | |
status of their children. Can she confirm that a young person who has | :34:16. | :34:20. | |
lived in Britain for four years of EU parent and is currently studying | :34:21. | :34:24. | |
at the University of sweat in the EU and will be over the age of 18 when | :34:25. | :34:30. | |
she returns will be able to automatically returned to her | :34:31. | :34:33. | |
parents and will her parents be required to meet an income | :34:34. | :34:41. | |
threshold? That individual would be allowed to return to the UK. If the | :34:42. | :34:49. | |
EU citizens are living here at the time at which we leave, before the | :34:50. | :34:55. | |
specified cut-off date and have five years residence they get that | :34:56. | :34:59. | |
settled status. If they have less than five years before the cut-off | :35:00. | :35:04. | |
date, they will be able to stay to build up a five years residence for | :35:05. | :35:08. | |
settled status and of course for anybody coming afresh, new people | :35:09. | :35:15. | |
coming to the UK after we leave the EU, we will be setting out those | :35:16. | :35:19. | |
immigration rules in due course and there will be a bill through | :35:20. | :35:25. | |
parliament. Can I urge the Prime Minister to settle this issue as | :35:26. | :35:28. | |
part of an interim deal with the EU so those affected do not have to | :35:29. | :35:31. | |
wait for the conclusions of the negotiations? I thank my right | :35:32. | :35:37. | |
honourable friend, I would like us to be able to do that by dealing | :35:38. | :35:42. | |
with this at an early stage in the negotiations and recognising what we | :35:43. | :35:46. | |
all want is to ensure we give people reassurance that they are no longer | :35:47. | :35:49. | |
anxious about their future and I would hope that the European Union | :35:50. | :35:53. | |
would see the benefit of that and we will be able to address this at an | :35:54. | :36:01. | |
earlier stage of the negotiations. I think the Prime Minister needs to | :36:02. | :36:06. | |
reassure the members of the European Parliament. I was in Brussels last | :36:07. | :36:11. | |
week and I heard petitioners from this and other countries talking | :36:12. | :36:16. | |
about their concerns. Previously when I asked the Prime Minister if | :36:17. | :36:20. | |
she would address the European Parliament she said she was waiting | :36:21. | :36:24. | |
for an invitation, however she must know that she does not have to have | :36:25. | :36:28. | |
an invitation also she can volunteer to address the plenary of the | :36:29. | :36:33. | |
European Parliament, will she do that? I thank the honourable lady | :36:34. | :36:40. | |
and I can let her know that my right honourable friend the Immigration | :36:41. | :36:44. | |
Minister will be meeting MEPs later today to talk about the proposals we | :36:45. | :36:49. | |
have put forward. I have been in discussions with the president, | :36:50. | :36:54. | |
speaking about the possibility of my going to the European Parliament and | :36:55. | :36:58. | |
speaking to them and we're looking at on what basis that should be and | :36:59. | :37:03. | |
on what timetable. Does my right honourable friend agree that one of | :37:04. | :37:05. | |
the principal reasons why the British people voted to leave the EU | :37:06. | :37:10. | |
was to reassert the supremacy of this Parliament and of the UK | :37:11. | :37:14. | |
courts? And can she confirm that when we do leave that will be the | :37:15. | :37:17. | |
position for all citizens resident in the UK no matter from where they | :37:18. | :37:23. | |
came? I can confirm that to my right honourable friend. One of the key | :37:24. | :37:26. | |
differences between the proposals we have put forward and those of the | :37:27. | :37:30. | |
European Union is they want the ECJ to continue to have jurisdiction on | :37:31. | :37:35. | |
European citizens even after we have left the EU and I think people were | :37:36. | :37:39. | |
very clear they did not want the ECJ to have jurisdiction here and I | :37:40. | :37:43. | |
believe our courts, we have fine courts in this country and they will | :37:44. | :37:48. | |
be able to uphold EU citizens write just as they do UK citizens. The | :37:49. | :37:53. | |
Prime Minister did not answer the question from my right honourable | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
friend the member for Leeds Central. If there are French parents whose | :37:59. | :38:02. | |
daughter is studying in Paris and who is 19 and they have been living | :38:03. | :38:07. | |
here for more than five years, will that daughter be able to return to | :38:08. | :38:11. | |
live with them here without them having to pass the income threshold | :38:12. | :38:15. | |
and if those parents have been living here for less than five | :38:16. | :38:20. | |
years, will they still have all the same rights as if they had been | :38:21. | :38:24. | |
living here for more than five years? Yes, if they have been living | :38:25. | :38:30. | |
here for the five years, their daughter will be able to return to | :38:31. | :38:35. | |
the United Kingdom on the same basis as that individual would today so | :38:36. | :38:39. | |
there would be no new rules that apply. If they have been living here | :38:40. | :38:42. | |
for less than five years they will be able to a crew that five-year | :38:43. | :38:46. | |
status so they go to the same position with that settled status. | :38:47. | :38:54. | |
The lead of the opposition alleged there were many on this side who | :38:55. | :38:59. | |
were coming over to Labour's way if thinking. Just in case I were to be | :39:00. | :39:04. | |
tempted, Mr Speaker, this is anyone have any idea what that is?! I have | :39:05. | :39:15. | |
to say, my honourable friend is always known for his plain speaking | :39:16. | :39:20. | |
and he has put the product in a plane a way that I did earlier in my | :39:21. | :39:23. | |
response to the Leader of the Opposition. Mr Speaker, at the | :39:24. | :39:31. | |
summit, paragraph six of the conclusion refers to peace and | :39:32. | :39:36. | |
stability in the world. Was there at opportunity to discuss the situation | :39:37. | :39:39. | |
in Yemen where 10,000 people have been killed, where the cholera | :39:40. | :39:46. | |
epidemic has now reached one fifth of a million people and where the | :39:47. | :39:50. | |
Saudis and Qataris are refusing to speak to each other? Surely if there | :39:51. | :39:54. | |
was a role for the EU at this present time it is to work with the | :39:55. | :40:00. | |
United Kingdom to try to bring peace to Yemen. The right honourable | :40:01. | :40:05. | |
gentleman raises a very serious issue in terms of the situation that | :40:06. | :40:10. | |
exists in Yemen and this has been of concern for some time and is a | :40:11. | :40:14. | |
growing issue in terms of the humanitarian crisis in Yemen. I am | :40:15. | :40:20. | |
pleased the UK has been able to provide some support, of course | :40:21. | :40:23. | |
there are issues about ensuring that gets through to the people who | :40:24. | :40:28. | |
needed in Yemen. I will be open with him, there was not a discussion on | :40:29. | :40:33. | |
the Yemen specifically at this European Council but we will | :40:34. | :40:36. | |
continue to work with other member state in the EU and with our role on | :40:37. | :40:42. | |
the Security Council of the UN to try to find a way through this | :40:43. | :40:49. | |
solution so we can see a reduction in the humanitarian problems that | :40:50. | :40:51. | |
exist in the Yemen and peace and stability in that country. The | :40:52. | :40:58. | |
status of EU citizens is something I know the Prime Minister has been | :40:59. | :41:01. | |
attending to resolve since well before the triggering of Article 50 | :41:02. | :41:07. | |
so what more can EU citizens who are residing in the UK be doing to make | :41:08. | :41:11. | |
it clear to whoever is standing in the way of an agreement come into | :41:12. | :41:16. | |
place, Watmore pressure can they put on to resolve this issue which is | :41:17. | :41:20. | |
causing so much heartache to so many -- what more? My right honourable | :41:21. | :41:24. | |
friend raises an interesting point and I think the message has to go | :41:25. | :41:29. | |
across these negotiations that it is an important issue, about the future | :41:30. | :41:33. | |
of people and we want to remove anxiety and give people reassurance. | :41:34. | :41:37. | |
When I speak to other European leaders, that is the message I get | :41:38. | :41:42. | |
from them, but what we need to do is ensure that the working group that | :41:43. | :41:45. | |
has been set up under the negotiations recognises that and | :41:46. | :41:47. | |
does its work as quickly as possible. Does the Prime Minister | :41:48. | :41:54. | |
accept that the only way to reassure the 3 million EU citizens who work | :41:55. | :42:01. | |
but are starting to leave our hospitals, schools, care homes and | :42:02. | :42:05. | |
businesses, and the UK citizens in the EU, is for the two immediately | :42:06. | :42:08. | |
and traditionally grant full rights to EU citizens in the UK no ifs or | :42:09. | :42:12. | |
buts, anything less will leave them thinking they are nothing more than | :42:13. | :42:18. | |
bargaining chip in a crude and cruel game of call my Bluff initiated by | :42:19. | :42:20. | |
the Brexiteers sitting next to her? We are making clear in the document | :42:21. | :42:29. | |
that we have set out today the basis on which we believe it reciprocal | :42:30. | :42:34. | |
arrangement can be put also making clear to people EU citizens in the | :42:35. | :42:39. | |
UK, no one is being asked to leave the United Kingdom. This is one of | :42:40. | :42:42. | |
the most important messages we can give to people here. Because there | :42:43. | :42:45. | |
has been that anxiety, this is a serious offer but nobody is being | :42:46. | :42:52. | |
asked to leave the UK. I strongly welcome the offer to EU National is | :42:53. | :42:55. | |
the Prime Minister makes today and the spirit of generosity and | :42:56. | :42:59. | |
pragmatism with which she makes the offer. Does my Right Honourable | :43:00. | :43:02. | |
friend agree with me that carrying forward that same spirit to the | :43:03. | :43:06. | |
negotiations about the rights of future EU workers gives us our best | :43:07. | :43:09. | |
chance of protecting our own economic interests and securing a | :43:10. | :43:12. | |
comprehensive trade deals that we all want to see? My Right Honourable | :43:13. | :43:16. | |
friend is right that what we want to do was to work forward in a positive | :43:17. | :43:21. | |
spirit, constructive spirit, because it is in the interests of both sides | :43:22. | :43:25. | |
of the UK and the European Union to ensure that we get the right offer | :43:26. | :43:32. | |
to citizens, EU citizens here and UK citizens in the EU but also that we | :43:33. | :43:37. | |
get that comprehensive trade deal we want. That will not just be to our | :43:38. | :43:39. | |
benefit but other member states as well. SPEAKER: Caroline Flint. I | :43:40. | :43:47. | |
certainly want to see the dilemma that those EU nationals working here | :43:48. | :43:51. | |
and living here are facing put to bed and put to rest so they can plan | :43:52. | :43:55. | |
for their future. I also know that my constituents who voted leave | :43:56. | :43:59. | |
wanted to see a reform of free movement. Can I ask the Prime | :44:00. | :44:03. | |
Minister to pledge today to ensure that in the future more of my | :44:04. | :44:06. | |
constituents will be trained to fulfil any vacancies that are | :44:07. | :44:10. | |
created by the reform of freedom of movement in both public and private | :44:11. | :44:17. | |
sector? If the answer that is yes, will she commit to come back to this | :44:18. | :44:20. | |
House to explain just how we are going to do that? Can I thank the | :44:21. | :44:23. | |
Right Honourable lady for the references she has made? I can give | :44:24. | :44:27. | |
her the assurance that I think it is absolutely crucial in this country | :44:28. | :44:31. | |
that we ensure that young people are given the skills and training they | :44:32. | :44:34. | |
need to be on the take up the vacancies, jobs not just of today | :44:35. | :44:39. | |
but of the future. That is why we were reform technical education and | :44:40. | :44:42. | |
introduce changes that have proper technical education in this country | :44:43. | :44:45. | |
for what I believe is the first time, and alongside that we have an | :44:46. | :44:49. | |
industrial strategy which is about spreading prosperity across this | :44:50. | :44:53. | |
country and ensuring those job opportunities are available. | :44:54. | :44:57. | |
SPEAKER: Mark Harper. I commend the Prime Minister for the generous | :44:58. | :45:00. | |
offer she set out which I hope will see an offer that will also benefit | :45:01. | :45:04. | |
British citizens also I am also in answer to questions that she shed EU | :45:05. | :45:10. | |
nationals will get the same rights as British citizens but not better | :45:11. | :45:15. | |
rights than British citizens. Can I also ask her, is she going to take | :45:16. | :45:19. | |
the opportunity to make sure EU nationals who have come to this | :45:20. | :45:22. | |
country and sadly abused our hospitality by committing crimes, | :45:23. | :45:25. | |
she will use the full opportunity of this to make sure they can be | :45:26. | :45:28. | |
removed from our country? My Right Honourable friend with one | :45:29. | :45:34. | |
well about the issue of those who well about the issue of those who | :45:35. | :45:38. | |
have come to this country and abused the rights they have been given by | :45:39. | :45:43. | |
their criminality. I certainly will ensure that those who are serious | :45:44. | :45:47. | |
and persistent criminals, that we can take action to remove them from | :45:48. | :45:54. | |
the UK. Mr Speaker, given that EU citizens are living and working here | :45:55. | :45:56. | |
legally at the moment, on the matter legally at the moment, on the matter | :45:57. | :46:02. | |
of the cut-off date, how can this be earlier than the date we leave the | :46:03. | :46:06. | |
European Union given that the rights and obligations we have as members | :46:07. | :46:11. | |
continue up until the date that we leave, even through the article 15 | :46:12. | :46:18. | |
negotiation process? The rights we have set out on the | :46:19. | :46:21. | |
question of the specified date is about the point at which people are | :46:22. | :46:25. | |
able to qualify for several status here in the United Kingdom. Of | :46:26. | :46:30. | |
course, as we are members of the European Union then the arrangements | :46:31. | :46:33. | |
which have also existed for us as members of the European Union will | :46:34. | :46:38. | |
continue. But for those getting settled status and wishing to retain | :46:39. | :46:42. | |
settled status for the future, that is where the cut-off date is | :46:43. | :46:45. | |
pertinent and that will be a matter for negotiation. SPEAKER: Spin | :46:46. | :46:51. | |
blunt. Can I welcome the fact the Prime Minister chose to raise this | :46:52. | :46:54. | |
extremely important issue the council. But in the future conduct | :46:55. | :47:01. | |
of the negotiations, will she confirmed that they will pass | :47:02. | :47:04. | |
through the Secretary of State for leaving the European Union in | :47:05. | :47:06. | |
bringing negotiations together in the same way the European Council | :47:07. | :47:12. | |
are standing behind Michel Barnier? I'm not sure my Right Honourable | :47:13. | :47:14. | |
friend is looking at those threads he is going to pull together. We are | :47:15. | :47:18. | |
clear that as we go through these negotiations, at different stages in | :47:19. | :47:21. | |
the working groups and so forth a whole variety of people will be | :47:22. | :47:25. | |
involved in those. As has already happened last Monday when it was my | :47:26. | :47:29. | |
Right Honourable friend, the Secretary of State for leaving the | :47:30. | :47:32. | |
EU, and went to the start of the negotiations opposite Michel | :47:33. | :47:35. | |
Barnier, I think it is clear the status and position he holds. Ben | :47:36. | :47:41. | |
Bradshaw. She doesn't seem to understand that the lection has | :47:42. | :47:45. | |
changed everything and her extreme damaging Brexit is dead. So why is | :47:46. | :47:48. | |
she making an offer that both as it affects British nationals on the | :47:49. | :47:52. | |
continent and EU nationals here is far less generous than the offer | :47:53. | :47:59. | |
they made to us just two weeks ago? Can I say to the Right Honourable | :48:00. | :48:02. | |
gentleman, there is no extreme Brexit we are talking about. There | :48:03. | :48:12. | |
is no... There is no hard Brexit and there is no soft Brexit. What we | :48:13. | :48:17. | |
want is the right deal for the United Kingdom. I remind the Right | :48:18. | :48:21. | |
Honourable gentleman that over 80% of people voted in the recent | :48:22. | :48:24. | |
election voted for parties that were committed to taking the United | :48:25. | :48:29. | |
Kingdom out of the European Union. Over 80% voted for parties... Voted | :48:30. | :48:36. | |
for parties that were committed to taking the United Kingdom out of the | :48:37. | :48:40. | |
European Union. We have made a fair and serious offer. I believe it is a | :48:41. | :48:44. | |
generous offer. There is one way in which it is different from the offer | :48:45. | :48:47. | |
the European Union has put, and that is about the jurisdiction of the | :48:48. | :48:50. | |
European Court of Justice will stop when people voted in the referendum | :48:51. | :48:53. | |
last year they voted to ensure that we stopped the jurisdiction of the | :48:54. | :48:56. | |
European Court of Justice here in the UK. Mr Byrne Jenkins. May I | :48:57. | :49:04. | |
congratulate my Right Honourable friend on the very comprehensive | :49:05. | :49:08. | |
offer she has made to secure the rights of EU citizens in our own | :49:09. | :49:12. | |
country in a bid also to secure the rights of UK citizens in the EU. The | :49:13. | :49:17. | |
next time she meets the heads of government in the European Union, | :49:18. | :49:21. | |
can she explained to them that there are rather a lot of people who are | :49:22. | :49:26. | |
Remainers in this in this country who would prefer mystical then, the | :49:27. | :49:29. | |
Leader of the Opposition, to become Prime Minister, but who will come if | :49:30. | :49:33. | |
he says he will scrap our weapons within six months and remove part of | :49:34. | :49:38. | |
Europe's vital defensive shield provided through Nato? Will she make | :49:39. | :49:45. | |
clear the danger of that to them? Tangentially related to the matters | :49:46. | :49:49. | |
on which the Prime Minister is reporting, but we are grateful to | :49:50. | :49:52. | |
the honourable gentleman for what I think I will charitably call a | :49:53. | :49:59. | |
cerebral meander. Mr Speaker, the European Council did touch on | :50:00. | :50:05. | |
defence issues as well. So it is possible for me to report to my | :50:06. | :50:12. | |
honourable friend that I did indeed touch on the importance of the | :50:13. | :50:14. | |
United Kingdom continuing to maintain its defence relationship | :50:15. | :50:19. | |
with other countries in Europe. Our relationship through Nato is very | :50:20. | :50:24. | |
important. We are obviously, because of our nuclear deterrent, one of the | :50:25. | :50:28. | |
key safeguards of the security and safety of Europe. Caroline Lucas. | :50:29. | :50:33. | |
The primers keeps talking about the need for reciprocity. Can she told | :50:34. | :50:37. | |
Dummett tollhouse washes into didn't reciprocate the genuinely fair and | :50:38. | :50:42. | |
honest proposal of the European Commission in April that would have | :50:43. | :50:45. | |
guaranteed the existing rights of the 1.2 million UK citizens living | :50:46. | :50:50. | |
elsewhere in the EU, it would have saved time, built up goodwill and | :50:51. | :50:54. | |
got the negotiations off to a better start. Can I say I think I've | :50:55. | :50:58. | |
pointed out there are some differences between the two | :50:59. | :51:01. | |
proposals put forward by us and the European Union through the European | :51:02. | :51:05. | |
Commission. One of the key ones was the suggestion from the European | :51:06. | :51:08. | |
Commission that after we have left the European Union there should be | :51:09. | :51:12. | |
two classes of citizen in the UK, UK citizens whose rights would be | :51:13. | :51:16. | |
guaranteed by the UK courts and EU citizens whose rights would be | :51:17. | :51:19. | |
guaranteed by the European Court of Justice. I don't believe that's | :51:20. | :51:22. | |
right, all Sissons should have the rights guaranteed through our | :51:23. | :51:26. | |
courts. This to Jacob Rees-Mogg. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Does the | :51:27. | :51:31. | |
Prime Minister agree with me that no reasonable person could oppose what | :51:32. | :51:36. | |
she has proposed force of the only people who do never wanted us to | :51:37. | :51:40. | |
leave in the first place. The idea that a foreign court should rule on | :51:41. | :51:45. | |
the rights of people living here is a kin to the outdated colonial | :51:46. | :51:52. | |
approach taken towards China and the unequal treaties of the | :51:53. | :51:58. | |
19th-century. I always bow to my honourable friend's historical | :51:59. | :52:01. | |
knowledge and references that he makes. But I think the point is a | :52:02. | :52:06. | |
clear one. Which is that what we want to see when we leave the | :52:07. | :52:09. | |
European Union is that citizens here in the UK have their rights | :52:10. | :52:14. | |
guaranteed by UK courts and enforced by UK courts. The honourable | :52:15. | :52:21. | |
gentleman was present himself at set treaties. We don't know, we will | :52:22. | :52:27. | |
leave it to speculation. Did the Prime Minister have an opportunity | :52:28. | :52:30. | |
to speak to the President of Cyprus and express support for the | :52:31. | :52:34. | |
settlement talks between Greek and Cypriot leaders due to commence in | :52:35. | :52:39. | |
Switzerland on Tuesday? I welcome the honourable gentleman to his | :52:40. | :52:45. | |
place in this House and can I say I did indeed have a bilateral | :52:46. | :52:48. | |
discussion with the President of Cyprus about those talks and about | :52:49. | :52:51. | |
our hope and expectation. They have come so far. I think they have both | :52:52. | :53:00. | |
taken the discussions to the point that is far closer to seeing in | :53:01. | :53:03. | |
resolution than we have ever seen before and I hope we can take it | :53:04. | :53:08. | |
over the line in the talks that will start in Geneva later this month and | :53:09. | :53:12. | |
the UK, as a co-guarantor, stands ready to play its part in doing | :53:13. | :53:18. | |
that. Thank you, Mr Speaker. When EU leaders say they want EU laws to | :53:19. | :53:22. | |
prevail over their citizens in the UK, what they are effectively saying | :53:23. | :53:25. | |
is they do not trust our judicial system. When the Prime Minister next | :53:26. | :53:30. | |
meets with her EU counterparts, may I suggest she gently reminds them | :53:31. | :53:33. | |
that many of the companies in their own countries, companies that drive | :53:34. | :53:38. | |
their economies, actually use English and Welsh contract law, | :53:39. | :53:42. | |
which is to be enforced in our courts by our judges, and the reason | :53:43. | :53:46. | |
why they use English and Welsh law is because globally our judicial | :53:47. | :53:52. | |
system commands greater respect than the judicial systems of Germany, | :53:53. | :53:57. | |
France, Italy and so on. My honourable friend has made an | :53:58. | :54:02. | |
extremely good point. At the nub of it is this, our courts are respected | :54:03. | :54:06. | |
around the world, and as he says people choose to use our law because | :54:07. | :54:10. | |
they respect it and they respect our courts and also respect the validity | :54:11. | :54:17. | |
of our Lord. I think it's important that citizens in the UK are under | :54:18. | :54:23. | |
the jurisdiction of our courts. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I note the | :54:24. | :54:27. | |
Prime Minister intends to do away with the technical requirement for | :54:28. | :54:29. | |
comprehensive sickness insurance comprehensive sickness insurance | :54:30. | :54:32. | |
once a reciprocal agreement has been reached but constituents like my | :54:33. | :54:35. | |
Lithuanian constituents are suffering as a result of this | :54:36. | :54:39. | |
requirement at present, because despite being in Scotland for more | :54:40. | :54:42. | |
than five years she cannot get permanent residency because she | :54:43. | :54:45. | |
doesn't have comprehensive sickness insurance and we heard evidence on | :54:46. | :54:49. | |
the EU Select Committee in the last Parliament that no such insurance | :54:50. | :54:52. | |
product exists. Will the Prime Minister do away with that | :54:53. | :54:58. | |
requirement here and now because it is a technical nonsense because | :54:59. | :55:00. | |
these people are using the NHS anyway was I have to say to be | :55:01. | :55:03. | |
Honourable Lady the requirement for comprehensive sickness insurance is | :55:04. | :55:06. | |
an EU requirement and as long as we are members of the EU it will | :55:07. | :55:09. | |
continue to be there. When we leave we can indeed remove it. James | :55:10. | :55:14. | |
Cleverly stop I welcome the government's commitment to maintain | :55:15. | :55:21. | |
the anything but arms free trade relationship with the least | :55:22. | :55:25. | |
developed countries. Could she Speaker that a bit more about the | :55:26. | :55:31. | |
Government's intention to extend free and fair trade with developing | :55:32. | :55:34. | |
countries who are not necessarily on the least developed countries list | :55:35. | :55:39. | |
but who have historically been penalised by the EU's tariff | :55:40. | :55:46. | |
arrangements? I can assure my honourable friend that we are | :55:47. | :55:49. | |
looking for a wide range of trade deals with countries around the | :55:50. | :55:52. | |
world when we leave the European Union. I think those trade deals are | :55:53. | :55:57. | |
important because they bring prosperity, growth and jobs to the | :55:58. | :56:01. | |
UK. But also because its free trade that has lifted millions out of | :56:02. | :56:04. | |
poverty around the world, and not just for the least developed | :56:05. | :56:08. | |
countries but for others there are huge advantages to them and their | :56:09. | :56:11. | |
citizens for ensuring those trade deals are in place so we can see | :56:12. | :56:15. | |
growth, jobs and prosperity spread more widely than it is today. Louise | :56:16. | :56:22. | |
Ellman. Could the Prime Minister tell us what discussions took place | :56:23. | :56:27. | |
on Corporation against terrorism? Was there any reference to what | :56:28. | :56:29. | |
happened on the streets of London just over a week ago when | :56:30. | :56:36. | |
demonstrators were allowed to shout out blaming Zionists for the | :56:37. | :56:40. | |
Grenfell Tower fire and castigating rabbis and synagogues? I can say to | :56:41. | :56:48. | |
the Honourable Lady that there was indeed a significant discussion on | :56:49. | :56:52. | |
counterterrorism and the need for us to corporate together in dealing | :56:53. | :56:56. | |
with that issue. We focused as I said in my statement on issues | :56:57. | :57:00. | |
around the Internet, on the way in which the Internet is used to | :57:01. | :57:04. | |
promulgate hateful propaganda, but also for the terrorists to be able | :57:05. | :57:08. | |
to plan on the Internet and have a safe space. We are united in our | :57:09. | :57:13. | |
wish, and indeed our determination to ensure that we take action with | :57:14. | :57:16. | |
the tech companies to ensure this can happen in the future. On the | :57:17. | :57:21. | |
last point the Honourable Lady raises I would simply say this dash | :57:22. | :57:25. | |
across the whole of this House we are clear that there is no place for | :57:26. | :57:30. | |
hate crime or hate speech in this country. | :57:31. | :57:33. | |
3.2 million EU citizens currently choose to live and work in our | :57:34. | :57:40. | |
country and they are well aware we are leaving the EU. What does my | :57:41. | :57:44. | |
right honourable friend believes this says about their perception of | :57:45. | :57:49. | |
the future prospect of our country after Brexit and about many of the | :57:50. | :57:53. | |
members opposite that millions of EU citizens have more confidence in our | :57:54. | :57:57. | |
country going forward than they do? I say to my honourable friend that I | :57:58. | :58:01. | |
think what that shows is what a great place the UK is to live and | :58:02. | :58:06. | |
work and what great opportunities we have for the future and I'm very | :58:07. | :58:10. | |
pleased that those 3.2 million EU citizens have confidence in our | :58:11. | :58:15. | |
country and want to stay here. The Prime Minister talked about the | :58:16. | :58:18. | |
drivers of migration which include climate change, conflict and extreme | :58:19. | :58:22. | |
poverty. As a country we have a proud record on international | :58:23. | :58:25. | |
development, does she agree that it is vitally important as this process | :58:26. | :58:31. | |
moves forward that we continue to cooperate very closely with the EU | :58:32. | :58:34. | |
and other European countries to tackle extreme poverty, especially | :58:35. | :58:39. | |
in Africa? Indeed it is and I am pleased that as the country we have | :58:40. | :58:42. | |
been able to play our part in dealing with that. As an example, | :58:43. | :58:47. | |
the Somalia conference we brought forward and hosted some weeks ago | :58:48. | :58:53. | |
brought countries from around the world to find ways in which we could | :58:54. | :58:57. | |
continue to support Somalia which has been a source of people choosing | :58:58. | :59:02. | |
to leave to try to come to Europe, to present a greater stability in | :59:03. | :59:06. | |
the country and also greater economic opportunity. The UK has | :59:07. | :59:08. | |
been at the forefront with the contract we have with India pipped | :59:09. | :59:14. | |
into providing economic jobs opportunities for people who | :59:15. | :59:16. | |
otherwise might try to migrate to Europe and we will continue to work | :59:17. | :59:19. | |
with our European allies on this. Does the primaries to believe that | :59:20. | :59:23. | |
our new relationship with Europe will enable us to reduce further the | :59:24. | :59:29. | |
significant numbers of EU nationals in our prisons? Of course it would | :59:30. | :59:34. | |
give further headroom for our hard-pressed prison officers to do | :59:35. | :59:38. | |
the vital rehabilitation work. Indeed we want to ensure we are able | :59:39. | :59:43. | |
to continue to transfer prisoners from the UK to their home states in | :59:44. | :59:47. | |
the European Union but we also want to ensure and will do that we are | :59:48. | :59:52. | |
able to remove serious and persistent criminals from the United | :59:53. | :00:00. | |
Kingdom. If I could ask the right honourable and even closer friend | :00:01. | :00:07. | |
the Prime Minister... LAUGHTER What reassurance the Prime Minister | :00:08. | :00:16. | |
can give to the agri- food sector in Northern Ireland, its producers and | :00:17. | :00:21. | |
processors in particular, about the rights of workers that will be | :00:22. | :00:24. | |
required to benefit from the increase in trade that the sector | :00:25. | :00:28. | |
will undoubtedly get as a result Brexit? Will this be marshalled by | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
way of a work permit system and if so will that be capped in Northern | :00:35. | :00:40. | |
Ireland? The rules we will set for people coming into the UK from the | :00:41. | :00:44. | |
European Union once we have left, people who not here already, this | :00:45. | :00:52. | |
will be set out in the new immigration bill we will bring to | :00:53. | :00:56. | |
the house after the repeal bill, but I fully recognise the importance of | :00:57. | :01:00. | |
the agri- food sector in Northern Ireland, that was clear on several | :01:01. | :01:08. | |
visits I made there, and we want to ensure that not just in Northern | :01:09. | :01:12. | |
Ireland but in the whole of the UK that we seek greater opportunities | :01:13. | :01:15. | |
for the agri- food sector which will ring jobs and greater growth and | :01:16. | :01:21. | |
prosperity. Would my right honourable friend agree that the | :01:22. | :01:26. | |
typically warm and constructive response from Mr Junker to the | :01:27. | :01:29. | |
welcome proposals reinforces the need for her to work ever closer | :01:30. | :01:35. | |
than with European heads of compliments? As I said in my | :01:36. | :01:41. | |
statement, the responses I had from individual leaders in the EU were | :01:42. | :01:45. | |
positive to the proposals we were putting forward and I can cite for | :01:46. | :01:51. | |
example the Fire Minister of Poland in a positive response to what was | :01:52. | :01:55. | |
said and he has made an interesting point. -- Prime Minister. The pie | :01:56. | :02:05. | |
Mr's new governing partners, the DUP come in their manifesto said they | :02:06. | :02:09. | |
were seek to deliver "A frictionless border with the Republic of Ireland | :02:10. | :02:13. | |
and a conference of free trade and customs agreement with the EU." Is | :02:14. | :02:18. | |
not the case that neither of these objectives can be secured if we | :02:19. | :02:24. | |
leave the EU a deal? I have to say to the honourable gentleman that the | :02:25. | :02:29. | |
requirement and desire to bring about a frictionless border between | :02:30. | :02:32. | |
Northern Ireland and Ireland and the desire to have that free trade deal | :02:33. | :02:35. | |
is exactly what the government is pursuing, it is what we have said in | :02:36. | :02:40. | |
the Lancaster House deal and we are doing it. I met the incoming | :02:41. | :02:46. | |
Taoiseach last week and we will work with them to deliver just that. | :02:47. | :02:54. | |
Violent ideologies from far right is the mists are increasingly on line. | :02:55. | :02:58. | |
Can my right honourable friend provide more information as to what | :02:59. | :03:02. | |
was agreed in the council in finding accountable Internet companies that | :03:03. | :03:07. | |
carry extremist content or those that are platforms for grooming? My | :03:08. | :03:11. | |
honourable friend makes a very important point and what we seethes | :03:12. | :03:16. | |
with extremism which leads to terrorism whatever the source, is | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
that people are trying to divide us in this country and I think that is | :03:21. | :03:24. | |
why the response we have had to all the terrorist attacks that have | :03:25. | :03:30. | |
taken place recently, the differing reasons for those attacks taking | :03:31. | :03:35. | |
place of course, the response of unity and unity of purpose of the | :03:36. | :03:38. | |
British citizens to ensure we tried out this hatred from our country is | :03:39. | :03:42. | |
so important. We focused in the discussions on the aspect of the | :03:43. | :03:46. | |
Internet and in particular on the industry led forum which we and | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
others have been discussing with tech companies to be set up. We want | :03:52. | :03:56. | |
to the automatic technological solutions to removing material from | :03:57. | :04:00. | |
the Internet because at the moment that the process of removing that | :04:01. | :04:04. | |
extremist material is too slow and it allows too many minds to be | :04:05. | :04:07. | |
infiltrated before it is taken down so we want automatic removal of it. | :04:08. | :04:14. | |
The Prime Minister has made clear that her hostility to the European | :04:15. | :04:20. | |
Court of Justice, what is going to happen to British citizens living in | :04:21. | :04:26. | |
other EU countries if they are not protected by the European Court of | :04:27. | :04:29. | |
Justice? Will they become citizens of nowhere? What I have made clear | :04:30. | :04:39. | |
is that, as regards the jurisdiction of courts in the UK, I believe we | :04:40. | :04:45. | |
should not be subject to the European Court of Justice, that EU | :04:46. | :04:48. | |
citizens rights here should be protected in a different way and I | :04:49. | :04:51. | |
believe when people voted to believe the EU, one of the things they voted | :04:52. | :04:55. | |
for was for the ECJ have jurisdiction here the UK. | :04:56. | :05:01. | |
I think the whole country will welcome the agreement that the | :05:02. | :05:09. | |
Conservative and Unionist Party has done with the DUP. The Prime | :05:10. | :05:15. | |
Minister in her statement referred to the Brexit dividend of over ?10 | :05:16. | :05:21. | |
billion that we will save when we're not in the European superstate and I | :05:22. | :05:25. | |
welcome the half ?1 billion a year going to Northern Ireland, but is | :05:26. | :05:32. | |
that funding to adapt the rest of the UK? What I can say to the | :05:33. | :05:36. | |
honourable gentleman is that we do have to look at how we are going to | :05:37. | :05:41. | |
use money we will no longer be sending to the European Union. | :05:42. | :05:45. | |
People voted for us not to send vast sums of money to the EU and we have | :05:46. | :05:49. | |
to look at how we use that and one of the aspects we have already | :05:50. | :05:54. | |
proposed on this side of the house is this concept of a Shared | :05:55. | :05:57. | |
Prosperity Fund which will be removing disparities between | :05:58. | :06:03. | |
different parts of the UK. Did the Prime Minister have a chance to | :06:04. | :06:06. | |
discuss transitional funding arrangements for Wales at the | :06:07. | :06:09. | |
European Council? Surely she will have to have something to say to the | :06:10. | :06:13. | |
people of Wales who feel they are being treated like second-class | :06:14. | :06:16. | |
citizens when she can magic up billions for Northern Ireland but | :06:17. | :06:19. | |
would not give a guaranteed to Wales on future funding. We have already | :06:20. | :06:25. | |
been very clear on various aspects of funding from the EU in relation | :06:26. | :06:28. | |
to funding for farmers and the guarantees we have given over period | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
of years for that but we want to make sure that when we have money | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
comes back from Europe, that we're not giving to the European Union, | :06:37. | :06:39. | |
that we are able to spend that money in a way that is as effective as | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
possible in driving improvement across the whole of the UK. Before | :06:45. | :06:53. | |
coming to this place I used to teach effective negotiation skills. Could | :06:54. | :06:57. | |
I invite the lead of the opposition to a free trial period? -- the | :06:58. | :07:03. | |
Leader of the Opposition. Can I say I think that was the most generous | :07:04. | :07:08. | |
offer from my honourable friend but I suspect the first thing he will | :07:09. | :07:11. | |
have to do is explain to the Leader of the Opposition what a negotiation | :07:12. | :07:19. | |
actually is. Can I continue the efforts of my colleague from | :07:20. | :07:23. | |
Pontefract and lead Central in trying to understand what this will | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
mean for EU constituent resident in the UK and their family members. Can | :07:28. | :07:31. | |
the Prime Minister confirmed that under her rules this means a Polish | :07:32. | :07:35. | |
nurse who is on a band five salary of under ?22,000 and therefore will | :07:36. | :07:41. | |
not meet the threshold of income required under the current rules | :07:42. | :07:45. | |
will not be able to bring her child and partner over to the UK, or a | :07:46. | :07:52. | |
French teaching assistant on under ?17,000 will not be able to bring an | :07:53. | :07:56. | |
elderly relative to the UK under these rules and if so what impact | :07:57. | :08:00. | |
does she think this will happen our public services? What I have said | :08:01. | :08:07. | |
earlier, for those EU citizens who are here and qualified for the | :08:08. | :08:11. | |
several satyrs, either with five years residents already, or they are | :08:12. | :08:16. | |
here before the cut-off date and are able to build up that qualification | :08:17. | :08:19. | |
for settled status, they will be no extra requirement in terms of them | :08:20. | :08:23. | |
bringing family members into the UK. We're not going to be splitting | :08:24. | :08:33. | |
those families. I welcome the Prime Minister's clear assurances that in | :08:34. | :08:36. | |
Brexit there will be no family split ups and they will be able to have no | :08:37. | :08:41. | |
cliff edges so they can regularise their status and also the health | :08:42. | :08:45. | |
care and pension arrangements but the impact of Brexit on British | :08:46. | :08:50. | |
businesses who employ EU workers simply cannot be underestimated, | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
especially in places like Taunton Deane with the food and drink and | :08:55. | :08:58. | |
farming industries, so what reassurances can be Prime Minister | :08:59. | :09:01. | |
give British businesses who employ EU citizens? First ball can I | :09:02. | :09:08. | |
reemphasise the point my honourable friend has made that there will be | :09:09. | :09:11. | |
no cliff edges and people will be able to bring family members here, | :09:12. | :09:15. | |
we're not talking about splitting up families and business are very | :09:16. | :09:21. | |
important message. Once we have left the European Union, we will of | :09:22. | :09:23. | |
course be putting immigration rules in place but as we do for people who | :09:24. | :09:29. | |
come here already from outside the EU, we will recognise with those | :09:30. | :09:35. | |
rules they need that our country has access to the skills it needs | :09:36. | :09:39. | |
particular in shortage occupations but we also want to ensure that | :09:40. | :09:43. | |
people here in the UK are trained to take those jobs, hence the very | :09:44. | :09:46. | |
important moves the government is making on technical education. The | :09:47. | :09:52. | |
Prime Minister said earlier that no families would be split up but she | :09:53. | :09:55. | |
said in the general election campaign that she is intending to | :09:56. | :09:59. | |
cut net migration to this country to the tens of thousands. There is a | :10:00. | :10:06. | |
problem here because last year 's 136,787 people came to this country | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
through the family route so if she is going to meet her pledge, she is | :10:11. | :10:13. | |
going to split families up, isn't she? Let's be very clear about what | :10:14. | :10:19. | |
I'm saying about EU citizens who qualified for settled status, they | :10:20. | :10:22. | |
will be able to bring family members here into the UK without extra | :10:23. | :10:31. | |
requirements. I welcome the prime Elizabeth Maca statement that | :10:32. | :10:33. | |
Britain will be more internationalist after leaving the | :10:34. | :10:39. | |
EU -- the Prime Minister. Can she give further details on discussions | :10:40. | :10:45. | |
with non-EU countries about that prospect? I am happy to say we have | :10:46. | :10:49. | |
already have a number of productive engagements on the issue of trade | :10:50. | :10:51. | |
for the future with countries around the world, notably with India, | :10:52. | :11:00. | |
America, and other countries as well like Australia and New Zealand, | :11:01. | :11:02. | |
discussions with China and other countries around the world. There | :11:03. | :11:06. | |
are real opportunities for the UK to the EU and we will make every effort | :11:07. | :11:15. | |
to make sure we take them. The Prime Minister's of is a step in the right | :11:16. | :11:18. | |
direction but long overdue and she will know as a former Home Secretary | :11:19. | :11:21. | |
that it is impossible to grant the rights she proposes to 3.2 million | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
EU citizens and fulfil her target to reduce net migration to the tens of | :11:27. | :11:31. | |
thousands. Can she confirm for the house that she has set aside this | :11:32. | :11:36. | |
than target and is going to propose instead to follow the Chancellor's | :11:37. | :11:40. | |
advice of a Brexit that is rich in jobs? We all want to ensure that the | :11:41. | :11:45. | |
deal we come to with the EU is going to ensure we have the comprehensive | :11:46. | :11:48. | |
free trade agreement that will indeed ensure we see growth and | :11:49. | :11:52. | |
prosperity and jobs here in the UK. That is the aim but also we will be | :11:53. | :11:56. | |
able to see jobs being brought here as a result of the trade | :11:57. | :11:59. | |
arrangements made around the rest of the world. May I paid tribute to the | :12:00. | :12:06. | |
Prime Minister for confirming once more people Poolman of this side the | :12:07. | :12:11. | |
house to deliver that referendum result on control of our Lord and | :12:12. | :12:16. | |
Borders and money and would she give due assurance that any pressure to | :12:17. | :12:19. | |
allow the European Court of Justice any role in immigration or future | :12:20. | :12:25. | |
status of EU citizens within this country will be flatly opposed? | :12:26. | :12:31. | |
The assurances I have set out earlier, I believe in terms of | :12:32. | :12:38. | |
assuring the rights of EU citizens living in the United Kingdom, we | :12:39. | :12:40. | |
believe that should be done through our courts and not the European | :12:41. | :12:44. | |
Court of Justice. I would reiterate the point I made earlier, when many | :12:45. | :12:48. | |
people voted to leave the European Union, one of the things they wanted | :12:49. | :12:52. | |
to ensure was the ECJ no longer had jurisdiction in the UK. Mr Barry | :12:53. | :13:00. | |
Sheerman. Many of us who did not want this country of ours to leave | :13:01. | :13:04. | |
the European Union did so partly because we believed it would make us | :13:05. | :13:08. | |
more vulnerable and Europe less stable. Could she assure me that | :13:09. | :13:12. | |
there were discussions at the European Council of the security | :13:13. | :13:17. | |
implications of where we are now in Europe, given the increasing threat | :13:18. | :13:22. | |
from Russia, both in terms of military and defence, but also in | :13:23. | :13:24. | |
terms of other activities they seem to be getting up to these days? I | :13:25. | :13:29. | |
can assure the honourable gentleman that there were discussions, | :13:30. | :13:34. | |
particularly discussions relating to the activities of Russia and the | :13:35. | :13:38. | |
EU's response to that and the United Kingdom has been one of the | :13:39. | :13:40. | |
countries leading the requirements in relation to that. We remain clear | :13:41. | :13:48. | |
that the sanctions must stay until the Minsk agreement is fully | :13:49. | :13:51. | |
implement it in relation to what activity Russia has undertaken in | :13:52. | :13:56. | |
Ukraine. We also discussed other security and defence issues and I | :13:57. | :13:59. | |
was able to reassure the other heads of state and government that the | :14:00. | :14:03. | |
United Kingdom will retain its role in helping to ensure the security | :14:04. | :14:07. | |
and safety of the European Union. We want to continue to have a defence | :14:08. | :14:10. | |
and security partnership with our European allies. Tim Lawton. Can | :14:11. | :14:16. | |
return to the Prime Minister's welcome comments on social media | :14:17. | :14:22. | |
sites hosting hate material. We have led the way on requiring employers | :14:23. | :14:25. | |
to proactively make checks on the legality of prospective employers. | :14:26. | :14:30. | |
For landlords to check on prospective tenants and for banks to | :14:31. | :14:35. | |
check on money-laundering. No such requirements or fines are in place | :14:36. | :14:39. | |
for social media companies. So can she now set down urgently a timeline | :14:40. | :14:45. | |
minimum requirements and the real prospect of significant and | :14:46. | :14:48. | |
meaningful fines for those social media companies who continue to act | :14:49. | :14:53. | |
responsibly? My honourable friend makes a very important point and it | :14:54. | :14:56. | |
is precisely because we want to see those companies acting with greater | :14:57. | :15:01. | |
responsibility in this area that we have been discussing with them this | :15:02. | :15:05. | |
industry led forum for automatic takedown of material from the | :15:06. | :15:08. | |
Internet and that we have galvanised support, not just in the G7, as I | :15:09. | :15:13. | |
did earlier this month, but also in the EU Council last Friday. | :15:14. | :15:17. | |
International support for ensuring that we can put collective pressure | :15:18. | :15:21. | |
on the companies to ensure that they are not carrying this material, and | :15:22. | :15:26. | |
that we do see the importance and significance of taking this action. | :15:27. | :15:32. | |
We have also discussed that, whereas the first step will be discussions | :15:33. | :15:36. | |
with the companies and what they can do themselves, we have also | :15:37. | :15:38. | |
discussed the prospect of legislation if that fails. SPEAKER: | :15:39. | :15:46. | |
Adam Jones. He was here a moment ago. Mr David Hanson. Could the | :15:47. | :15:51. | |
Prime Minister assure the House she has made progress of ensuring our | :15:52. | :15:57. | |
members above the European Arrest Warrant, Europol and the Eurojust in | :15:58. | :16:00. | |
her discussions, and could she also tell me that the UK Government does | :16:01. | :16:04. | |
no when European citizens enter the United Kingdom? As regards the | :16:05. | :16:11. | |
Eurojust and Europol and European Arrest Warrant, though this will be | :16:12. | :16:14. | |
matters for the negotiations. I've been very clear that we want to | :16:15. | :16:19. | |
retain our security cooperation not just on counterterrorism matters but | :16:20. | :16:25. | |
also on matters relating to crime. Wendy Morton. Mr Speaker, when we | :16:26. | :16:31. | |
triggered Article 50 it was very clear that the immigration regime | :16:32. | :16:34. | |
would need to be changed. Does my Right Honourable friend agree that | :16:35. | :16:37. | |
it was entirely sensible and appropriate to discuss the cut-off | :16:38. | :16:42. | |
date with the EU Commission? I absolutely agree with my honourable | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
friend. We will see new immigration rules brought in to the UK for those | :16:48. | :16:50. | |
people who are moving from the EU into the UK after we have left, and | :16:51. | :16:54. | |
is entirely right and sensible as part of the negotiations to discuss | :16:55. | :16:58. | |
the cut-off date for EU citizens who are here. I represent many EU | :16:59. | :17:05. | |
citizens who are fearful and indeed tearful about their future prospects | :17:06. | :17:08. | |
so I welcome some of the clarity the Prime Minister has brought to the | :17:09. | :17:11. | |
matter. She talks about a streamlined system for status but | :17:12. | :17:15. | |
many of them worry about having to pay the costs for an entire family | :17:16. | :17:19. | |
to go through this process in short order. Can she give an indication of | :17:20. | :17:23. | |
what the costs might be said that she can reassure them? The Home | :17:24. | :17:26. | |
Office will be looking very carefully at ensuring that the costs | :17:27. | :17:30. | |
are reasonable in this. They want to ensure that the streamlined process | :17:31. | :17:33. | |
will be a light touch process and will be easy for people to access, | :17:34. | :17:37. | |
and therefore easy for people to regularise their status. Thank you, | :17:38. | :17:46. | |
Mr Speaker. It is very important to our economy that business continues | :17:47. | :17:50. | |
to invest and there are no cliff edge changes to our trading | :17:51. | :17:54. | |
relationships. As well as seeking a fair deal on exit as well as a new | :17:55. | :17:59. | |
trade deal with the Prime Minister seek a two-year or three-year | :18:00. | :18:02. | |
transition period to give Mr Cesc total of five years to prepare for | :18:03. | :18:07. | |
the future? -- to give businesses. It is important that when we know | :18:08. | :18:11. | |
the basis of the future relationship with the EU that we recognise that | :18:12. | :18:15. | |
not just business but government has welcome may need to have an | :18:16. | :18:17. | |
intimidation period when they are able to make the adjustments | :18:18. | :18:21. | |
necessary. How long that period will be will depend, of course, on what | :18:22. | :18:24. | |
the new relationship is going to be, and therefore that will be part of | :18:25. | :18:29. | |
the discussions that take place during the negotiations. With tens | :18:30. | :18:34. | |
of thousands of Scottish jobs at risk will the Prime Minister listen | :18:35. | :18:38. | |
to her Chancellor's warnings in relation to our place in the Single | :18:39. | :18:42. | |
Market? As regards Scottish jobs I have to say the most important | :18:43. | :18:45. | |
Single Market is that of the United Kingdom. Mr Henry Smith. Thank you, | :18:46. | :18:54. | |
Mr Speaker. Was the Prime Minister able to convey to her European | :18:55. | :19:01. | |
counterparts in the council that 589 members of this House elected in the | :19:02. | :19:04. | |
general election earlier this month did so on a promise to deliver a | :19:05. | :19:09. | |
comprehensive Brexit? Yes, I was very clear that the view of the | :19:10. | :19:16. | |
electorate, the view of the government, the view of the | :19:17. | :19:21. | |
majority, the position that was taken at the election of the | :19:22. | :19:23. | |
majority of people who have come into this House was precisely that, | :19:24. | :19:27. | |
to deliver on the will of the people expressed in the referendum. The | :19:28. | :19:31. | |
Prime Minister said at the beginning of her statement that she wished for | :19:32. | :19:35. | |
the UK and EU to trade as fairly as possible in the goods and services. | :19:36. | :19:40. | |
Can she confirmed to the House if any time was spent on developing | :19:41. | :19:43. | |
proposals for the UK to remain invisible market and customs union? | :19:44. | :19:48. | |
I have to say to the honourable gentleman, what we want to do is to | :19:49. | :19:52. | |
ensure that we have a good frictionless and as tariff free as | :19:53. | :19:56. | |
possible access to the Single Market. That's what we are talking | :19:57. | :20:00. | |
about when we talk about a comprehensive free trade agreement, | :20:01. | :20:03. | |
that agreement will be part of the negotiations. Mr Richard Graham. | :20:04. | :20:09. | |
European Union citizens in my constituency of Gloucester and their | :20:10. | :20:13. | |
employers, notably the NHS, university and many businesses, will | :20:14. | :20:18. | |
greatly appreciate the clarity in the Prime Minister's statement | :20:19. | :20:19. | |
today. Could my Right Honourable friend give an idea of whether she | :20:20. | :20:22. | |
believes an agreement on this crucial issue of so many citizens | :20:23. | :20:26. | |
here and so many British citizens in Europe might be possible before | :20:27. | :20:29. | |
agreement on other issues, and if so when? I am pleased that this issue | :20:30. | :20:36. | |
is one of the first issue going to be addressed in the negotiations. I | :20:37. | :20:40. | |
hope and I believe there is goodwill on both sides to recognise the | :20:41. | :20:43. | |
importance of this issue for citizens both here and in the | :20:44. | :20:50. | |
European Union, the remaining 27 member states. I cannot put a | :20:51. | :20:53. | |
timeline on that because there are aspects of this that have to be | :20:54. | :20:56. | |
negotiated and the European Union has said that nothing is agreed | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
until everything is agreed. But I would hope we would be able to give | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
final reassurance to its citizens at an earlier stage. Diana Johnson. The | :21:06. | :21:12. | |
Prime Minister said, and I'm sure we would all agree, that she wants to | :21:13. | :21:15. | |
see the removal of serious and persistent criminals from the UK. | :21:16. | :21:19. | |
Could she say more about how she intends to do that, bearing in mind | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
she failed to do it in the six or seven years she was Home Secretary? | :21:24. | :21:29. | |
I have to say to the Honourable Lady that her portrayal of what happened | :21:30. | :21:33. | |
during the time I was Home Secretary, and indeed since, is not | :21:34. | :21:38. | |
correct. Significant number of persistent and serious criminals | :21:39. | :21:41. | |
were removed from the United Kingdom. The basis on which it is | :21:42. | :21:46. | |
possible to do that for people who are here as European Union citizens, | :21:47. | :21:50. | |
of course, is subject to slightly different rules than for others and | :21:51. | :21:54. | |
once we are out of the European Union we will be able to adjust | :21:55. | :21:59. | |
that. My constituency has proportionally more EU nationals | :22:00. | :22:02. | |
than any other in the country compared to how recently they have | :22:03. | :22:07. | |
arrived. I know that day and I would warmly welcome this statement which | :22:08. | :22:11. | |
provides real clarity and I hope that she dumb and will be concluded | :22:12. | :22:16. | |
as she has said that the end of this deal. On the issue of social media, | :22:17. | :22:21. | |
can I remind the Prime Minister it wasn't that long ago that Internet | :22:22. | :22:24. | |
company said the removal of child sex abuse is automatically was | :22:25. | :22:29. | |
simply impossible. Now it happens routinely. Extremist material is | :22:30. | :22:31. | |
harder but does she agree with me that it can be done? My honourable | :22:32. | :22:36. | |
friend has made an important point in drawing that comparison. It did | :22:37. | :22:41. | |
take a while and hard work to get the tech companies to the position | :22:42. | :22:44. | |
where they would take the action they have done on child sexual abuse | :22:45. | :22:48. | |
images on the Internet. I believe we can do the same with extremism and | :22:49. | :22:51. | |
that is what we are encouraging them to do. | :22:52. | :22:56. | |
Prime Minister, with your statement at the council, did you manage to | :22:57. | :23:02. | |
raise the issue of the Erasmus plus programme and our continuing work in | :23:03. | :23:06. | |
that? We have the deadline for the Erasmus plus grants in October. It | :23:07. | :23:09. | |
takes six months for those grants to be awarded and another year | :23:10. | :23:14. | |
sometimes for them to be enacted. Will the Prime Minister ensure that | :23:15. | :23:18. | |
any academic student or young person that is awarded an Erasmus programme | :23:19. | :23:23. | |
is able to come here without additional fees are burdens? First | :23:24. | :23:27. | |
of all I would point out that while we are still within the European | :23:28. | :23:32. | |
Union, the current arrangements and opportunities to apply still apply | :23:33. | :23:36. | |
to the United Kingdom. We have been able to give some certainty in terms | :23:37. | :23:39. | |
of certain programmes to the continuation of those programmes | :23:40. | :23:43. | |
after we leave the European Union. I think after we have left the | :23:44. | :23:46. | |
European Union there will be options for us to find ways in which we can | :23:47. | :23:52. | |
continue to participate in such programmes. We warmly welcome the | :23:53. | :23:57. | |
honourable gentleman to the chamber and deliberations. Michael | :23:58. | :24:01. | |
Tomlinson. I have just returned from the Netherlands with a delegation | :24:02. | :24:06. | |
for the Lords and Commons. It is the Dutch tour, whereas amongst other | :24:07. | :24:09. | |
things I have the opportunity to speak to British nationals living | :24:10. | :24:13. | |
and working in the Netherlands. What reassurance can the Prime Minister | :24:14. | :24:16. | |
give to them and other British nationals working across the EU that | :24:17. | :24:19. | |
their rights will be protected alongside EU writes living here? I | :24:20. | :24:26. | |
think the best assurance I can give to those British citizens living in | :24:27. | :24:29. | |
the Netherlands and elsewhere in the European Union is that we have set | :24:30. | :24:36. | |
out a fair deal, a fair offer to those EU citizens living here but we | :24:37. | :24:40. | |
are very clear this must be reciprocal and British citizens must | :24:41. | :24:43. | |
have their rights protected as well. We will continue to argue for that. | :24:44. | :24:48. | |
Mr Speaker, the Prime Minister mention the trade deal with Japan | :24:49. | :24:53. | |
and the EU. She will be aware from leaked documents this weekend that a | :24:54. | :24:57. | |
lot of people are concerned that there is no mention of employment up | :24:58. | :25:01. | |
to use, for example tackling Japan's illegal timber trade all whaling in | :25:02. | :25:05. | |
that draft agreement. Does she think those protections should be in there | :25:06. | :25:08. | |
and what does she think that means about those negotiations that will | :25:09. | :25:13. | |
be undertaken when we leave the EU? There is still negotiation going on | :25:14. | :25:19. | |
between the UK and Japan. When we are able to set up these agreements | :25:20. | :25:23. | |
ourselves, and Japan is another of the countries we have been talking | :25:24. | :25:27. | |
to, it will be up to us as part of the negotiations for that trade deal | :25:28. | :25:30. | |
to set the conditions for that trade agreement. Nigel Huddleston. | :25:31. | :25:34. | |
Returning to the issue of online Returning to the issue of online | :25:35. | :25:38. | |
content, will the promised concerned, confirm whether the | :25:39. | :25:42. | |
government would create an act of legislation themselves, should the | :25:43. | :25:47. | |
Internet companies not make progress on removing inappropriate content? | :25:48. | :25:51. | |
We are certainly willing to consider legislation on this matter. This is | :25:52. | :25:55. | |
so important. I believe that with the international pressure we are | :25:56. | :25:58. | |
building and with the cooperation internationally we are building we | :25:59. | :26:02. | |
will be to put pressure on the tech companies such that they do this | :26:03. | :26:05. | |
themselves. We should not rule out any option. Patrick Grady. I know we | :26:06. | :26:14. | |
should not blow raspberries in this House but that was the reaction of | :26:15. | :26:18. | |
constituents on Saturday when they heard about the reports of this | :26:19. | :26:22. | |
deal. I wonder how many EU nationals the Prime Minister has met or | :26:23. | :26:25. | |
consulted with in drawing up the proposals she presented today? I | :26:26. | :26:30. | |
have to say to the honourable gentleman, like other members of | :26:31. | :26:33. | |
this House, I've met people in my constituency who are employees of EU | :26:34. | :26:39. | |
nationals, people who are EU nationals concerned about their | :26:40. | :26:42. | |
position, and I suggest that what he does, because the detail has not | :26:43. | :26:45. | |
been published at the weekend, that he takes the detail of this to his | :26:46. | :26:49. | |
constituents and enables them to see for themselves the fair serious | :26:50. | :26:55. | |
offer we are making. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I was pleased | :26:56. | :26:59. | |
to hear the Prime Minister refer to the manifesto commitment to create a | :27:00. | :27:03. | |
UK Shared Prosperity Fund earlier in this session. Even though it wasn't | :27:04. | :27:06. | |
specifically mentioned in the Queen's speech, could the Prime | :27:07. | :27:09. | |
Minister confirm that this government is committed to bring | :27:10. | :27:12. | |
forward such a fund to replace EU structural funding that has been so | :27:13. | :27:16. | |
important to places like Cornwall? I want to ensure that when we are in a | :27:17. | :27:20. | |
position that we are no longer sending these huge sums of money | :27:21. | :27:23. | |
every year to the European Union that the money that is available, | :27:24. | :27:26. | |
some of the money available, can be used in this way. There is a very | :27:27. | :27:31. | |
real issue about ensuring that we do that in a way that is as effective | :27:32. | :27:36. | |
as possible and is going to have the maximum impact across all parts of | :27:37. | :27:37. | |
the United Kingdom. I'm sure the Prime Minister will be | :27:38. | :27:45. | |
aware of the problems already faced by our universities and research | :27:46. | :27:48. | |
centres because of the uncertainty around these issues so could she | :27:49. | :27:52. | |
tell others what discussions she had the council with other leaders about | :27:53. | :27:55. | |
dealing with these challenges and could she take the opportunity to | :27:56. | :27:59. | |
say whether she wants us to stay in the Horizon 2020 programme in | :28:00. | :28:04. | |
future? There are a number of these programmes and projects that the UK | :28:05. | :28:10. | |
has been part of and we have benefited from that will be part of | :28:11. | :28:13. | |
the negotiations as we go through. What I am very clear about and the | :28:14. | :28:17. | |
point we have consistently made within EU circles is to ensure that, | :28:18. | :28:22. | |
as long as we are still in the European Union, we should have the | :28:23. | :28:25. | |
same ability to apply for programmes and be part of these as has been the | :28:26. | :28:31. | |
case previously. One of the areas of concern I have is that in areas such | :28:32. | :28:36. | |
as University research, I am hearing anecdotes that universities are | :28:37. | :28:40. | |
finding it harder because of our future. What I would say is that as | :28:41. | :28:45. | |
long as we are in the EU, we are able to apply on the same basis as | :28:46. | :28:47. | |
always. The European arrest warrant has | :28:48. | :29:01. | |
proved very effective exclusion order means by which we cede speedy | :29:02. | :29:07. | |
justice for those who have committed crimes and for the victims who want | :29:08. | :29:13. | |
to see a speedy outcome -- by which we see. As the Prime Minister | :29:14. | :29:19. | |
discuss this at any point and if not when does she think it will be | :29:20. | :29:25. | |
discussed? Those issues, as I indicated to her right honourable | :29:26. | :29:29. | |
friend earlier, will be part of the negotiations but I'm also bound to | :29:30. | :29:34. | |
point out that I have stood at this dispatch box as Home Secretary and | :29:35. | :29:38. | |
argued for the UK remaining in the European arrest warrant when the | :29:39. | :29:41. | |
Labour Party was trying to stop us get the legislation through. | :29:42. | :29:53. | |
All this junk rig is rather unfair on the honourable lady who wishes to | :29:54. | :29:59. | |
unburden herself of a series of important thoughts which the nation | :30:00. | :30:05. | |
should hear -- all this chuntering. Every week in my surgery I see | :30:06. | :30:10. | |
constituents who are already one down by the incompetence and | :30:11. | :30:15. | |
intransigence and unkindness of the Home Office. What steps will be | :30:16. | :30:18. | |
Prime Minister put in place to give the home of his adequate funding to | :30:19. | :30:22. | |
deal with these additional EU nationals that need to be processed? | :30:23. | :30:26. | |
The hope this is well able to deal with the issues it will be | :30:27. | :30:30. | |
addressing and it will be ensuring as I said earlier in response to her | :30:31. | :30:35. | |
honourable friend that the process which people will go through will be | :30:36. | :30:39. | |
streamlined and light touch. I recently visited a manufacturer in | :30:40. | :30:45. | |
my constituency that exports into the EU who informed me that they now | :30:46. | :30:51. | |
have to include the risks of Brexit in their export contracts. What | :30:52. | :30:55. | |
advice does the Prime Minister have bought Manufacturer 's like those | :30:56. | :31:00. | |
who have to today assess the risk they may end up paying tariffs when | :31:01. | :31:04. | |
we leave the EU? I would say to those manufacturers that I hope they | :31:05. | :31:09. | |
will work with us as the government to ensure we understand the needs of | :31:10. | :31:14. | |
every part of industry in the country as we go forward into the | :31:15. | :31:18. | |
negotiation of the comprehensive free trade agreement. We want to see | :31:19. | :31:21. | |
a tariff free ability to trade with the EU and we will consider the | :31:22. | :31:24. | |
views and interests of British industry as we do that. The Prime | :31:25. | :31:31. | |
Minister as twice this afternoon responded to questions about the | :31:32. | :31:35. | |
skills challenges that will be created as a result of the reform of | :31:36. | :31:40. | |
the freedom of movement by referring to the reform of technical education | :31:41. | :31:43. | |
but of course the economy will have much greater needs new dentists, | :31:44. | :31:48. | |
doctors, vets and other professionals. On that basis will | :31:49. | :31:53. | |
she guaranteed the funding necessary to ensure that our schools, colleges | :31:54. | :31:57. | |
and universities will be able to meet skills challenges of a | :31:58. | :32:03. | |
post-Brexit world? I have been very clear we need to meet those skills | :32:04. | :32:06. | |
challenges which is why we are bringing in the reforms we are and I | :32:07. | :32:11. | |
have to say that she refers to issues within the NHS. Of course one | :32:12. | :32:14. | |
of the important steps this government has taken is to remove | :32:15. | :32:18. | |
the caps on numbers of people who can train as staff in the NHS. My | :32:19. | :32:26. | |
question relate to that posed by my friend from Cambridge, I would like | :32:27. | :32:31. | |
to ask why is the Prime Minister truly is concerned about the future | :32:32. | :32:34. | |
of British side in European funding, there is no mention of British side | :32:35. | :32:38. | |
in European funding in either this statement nor of any of the Brexit | :32:39. | :32:43. | |
bills nor in the Queen's speech? Can I suggest that the honourable lady | :32:44. | :32:47. | |
looks at the 12 objectives we set out in my Lancaster House speech in | :32:48. | :32:51. | |
January for our negotiated deal with the EU when we specifically referred | :32:52. | :32:58. | |
to science and innovation. Much player has been made about the | :32:59. | :33:02. | |
supremacy of this place in terms of the repatriation of powers from the | :33:03. | :33:05. | |
EU yet there has been no consideration made about whole | :33:06. | :33:09. | |
government and structure of the UK is to be developed post Brexit so it | :33:10. | :33:13. | |
will become and give any consideration to a concurrent | :33:14. | :33:16. | |
constitutional convention which will consider how stable and sustainable | :33:17. | :33:20. | |
governance and distribution of power is considered after the Brexit | :33:21. | :33:26. | |
prizes including a federal UK? -- Brexit process. I welcome the | :33:27. | :33:32. | |
honourable gentleman to his place, there are one or two other members | :33:33. | :33:35. | |
who I have not welcome and I apologise to them for that but can I | :33:36. | :33:40. | |
just say that I think the best way of ensuring good governance and | :33:41. | :33:43. | |
stability across the UK is maintaining the United Kingdom. I | :33:44. | :33:46. | |
also welcomed the honourable member for Glasgow North East who has | :33:47. | :33:51. | |
served up a very interesting hors d'oeuvre and we look forward to his | :33:52. | :33:58. | |
main course before long! In York we have Timico excellent universities | :33:59. | :34:01. | |
but they already challenged by the recruitment and retention of EU | :34:02. | :34:05. | |
staff will stop -- two excellent universities. How will academics | :34:06. | :34:14. | |
accrue their settled status under new rules? I have to say that I | :34:15. | :34:20. | |
suggest the honourable lady looks at the proposals we have set out which | :34:21. | :34:23. | |
make it clear the basis on which people are able to get their | :34:24. | :34:27. | |
guaranteed settled status here in the UK and that will cover people | :34:28. | :34:32. | |
from all walks of life. We want EU citizens who are here to stay, we're | :34:33. | :34:37. | |
not talking about forcing anybody to leave the UK. The Prime Minister has | :34:38. | :34:47. | |
not fully answered a number of questions about the longer term | :34:48. | :34:50. | |
right of EU nationals to bring their family over here should they need to | :34:51. | :34:55. | |
in the future. Can she answered the question categorically, will she get | :34:56. | :34:58. | |
an absolute guarantee that the minimum income requirement that is | :34:59. | :35:01. | |
obstructing so many family reunions for non-EU nationals that that | :35:02. | :35:07. | |
requirement will never be imposed on any EU National in the UK? EU | :35:08. | :35:14. | |
nationals who have been here for five years and have the five-year | :35:15. | :35:18. | |
residence will qualify for settled status, EU nationals who have been | :35:19. | :35:21. | |
here for less than five years will be given an opportunity to qualify | :35:22. | :35:25. | |
for that settled status, to stay for those five years to qualify for it, | :35:26. | :35:32. | |
those EU nationals will not have any extra requirements imposed on them | :35:33. | :35:35. | |
in relation to bringing family members here in the UK. When we have | :35:36. | :35:42. | |
left the EU we will be establishing within the immigration rules the | :35:43. | :35:44. | |
arrangements for EU nationals who then move into the UK who will be in | :35:45. | :35:49. | |
the same status as those who are moving from outside of the European | :35:50. | :36:00. | |
Union. As part of her recent little tour around Labour held seats across | :36:01. | :36:05. | |
the country at the Prime Minister stopped for a photograph in a farm | :36:06. | :36:13. | |
in my constituency. Why was there no mention of agriculture in the | :36:14. | :36:22. | |
statement today? I have to say, what I was reporting on were the subject | :36:23. | :36:25. | |
discussed at the European Council on Friday and by reported faithfully on | :36:26. | :36:31. | |
those subjects. Can the Prime Minister confirm that she was aware | :36:32. | :36:35. | |
of the details that are contained in that document on EU nationals | :36:36. | :36:39. | |
wanting to remain in the UK at the time in the general election when | :36:40. | :36:42. | |
she promised to cut immigration to the tens of thousands and are the | :36:43. | :36:46. | |
two compatible with one another? What we're talking about in this | :36:47. | :36:51. | |
document is the right of EU citizens who are living here in the United | :36:52. | :36:56. | |
Kingdom. We are making a fair and serious offer that nobody will be | :36:57. | :37:00. | |
forced to leave the UK, that families will not be split up. We | :37:01. | :37:04. | |
want people to stay and this document will enable them to. | :37:05. | :37:12. | |
Statement, the first Secretary of State and Minister for the Cabinet | :37:13. | :37:17. | |
Office, minister Damian Green. Thank you, Mr Speaker. | :37:18. | :37:27. | |
With permission I will make a statement on details of the | :37:28. | :37:35. | |
agreement reached today between the Conservative and Unionist Party and | :37:36. | :37:38. | |
the Democratic Unionist Party under which the DUP will support the | :37:39. | :37:41. | |
government on a confidence and supply basis. Having won the most | :37:42. | :37:45. | |
votes and the largest number of seats in the general election on the | :37:46. | :37:50. | |
8th of June by a significant margin, it is only the Conservative Party | :37:51. | :37:54. | |
which has the ability and legitimacy to lead the government our country | :37:55. | :38:02. | |
needs. This agreement delivers the certainty we need in the United | :38:03. | :38:05. | |
Kingdom's national interest at this crucial time. This agreement means | :38:06. | :38:11. | |
the DUP will support the government on votes on the Queen's speech, the | :38:12. | :38:16. | |
budget and on legislation relating to our exit from the EU and national | :38:17. | :38:21. | |
security. It will ensure that we can govern in the national interest, | :38:22. | :38:26. | |
strengthening and enhancing the union, keeping our country safe, | :38:27. | :38:30. | |
delivering prosperity for all and securing a departure from the | :38:31. | :38:34. | |
European Union which benefits all parts of the UK. To support this | :38:35. | :38:39. | |
agreement the government will chair a coordination committee involving | :38:40. | :38:42. | |
both parties. As members of this house are well aware and as our | :38:43. | :38:50. | |
manifesto made clear, the Conservative Party has never been | :38:51. | :38:52. | |
neutral in expressing its support for the union. As this agreement | :38:53. | :38:55. | |
states, Her Majesty's government remains fully committed to the | :38:56. | :38:58. | |
Belfast agreement and its successors. This means we will | :38:59. | :39:01. | |
continue to govern in the interests of all part of the community in | :39:02. | :39:07. | |
Northern Ireland. These confidence and supply arrangements in no way | :39:08. | :39:11. | |
affect our stead fast and went to see the re-establishment of an | :39:12. | :39:15. | |
inclusive Northern Ireland executive by this Thursday. The government | :39:16. | :39:18. | |
will do everything in its power working alongside the Irish | :39:19. | :39:22. | |
government to bring the talks process to a successful conclusion | :39:23. | :39:27. | |
in the short time which remains. Both the government and the DUP | :39:28. | :39:32. | |
recognise the unique circumstances of Northern Ireland's history and | :39:33. | :39:35. | |
the effect this has had on its economy and people from all parts of | :39:36. | :39:40. | |
the community. This government is resolute in its determination to | :39:41. | :39:43. | |
deliver for the whole of the United Kingdom. In recognition of our | :39:44. | :39:48. | |
commitment to support growth across all parts of the United Kingdom, we | :39:49. | :39:52. | |
have agreed to provide additional support for the people of Northern | :39:53. | :39:56. | |
Ireland. I hope this part of the agreement will play a positive role | :39:57. | :40:00. | |
in the efforts to re-establish devolved government. Funding would | :40:01. | :40:04. | |
go to a restored Northern Ireland executive in the same way as the | :40:05. | :40:10. | |
?2.5 billion of financial support and flexibility which was made | :40:11. | :40:13. | |
available to the executive through the 2014 Stormont house agreement | :40:14. | :40:18. | |
and in 2015 through the fresh start agreement. The government supports | :40:19. | :40:22. | |
further cooperation with the Northern Ireland executive on | :40:23. | :40:25. | |
infrastructure development in Northern Ireland, the UK Government | :40:26. | :40:30. | |
will allocate ?200 million per year for two years. Both the government | :40:31. | :40:35. | |
and previous executives have recognised the integral part digital | :40:36. | :40:39. | |
instructor played in opening up new opportunities for growth and | :40:40. | :40:43. | |
connectivity for both businesses and consumers. We will therefore | :40:44. | :40:47. | |
contribute ?75 million per year for two years to help provide ultrafast | :40:48. | :40:52. | |
broadband for Northern Ireland just as we made funding available for | :40:53. | :40:55. | |
this purpose in communities across the UK. The UK Government is | :40:56. | :41:02. | |
committed to working with the executive and others to work toward | :41:03. | :41:06. | |
a comprehensive and ambitious set of city deals across Northern Ireland | :41:07. | :41:10. | |
to boost investment and help unlock the full potential of Northern | :41:11. | :41:14. | |
Ireland. This is the sort of targeted positive intervention in | :41:15. | :41:17. | |
the UK Government can make across the UK and builds on the success of | :41:18. | :41:25. | |
existing deals such as those in Glasgow, Cardiff and Swansea. Since | :41:26. | :41:30. | |
2014 in the UK Government has committed to over ?1 billion worth | :41:31. | :41:33. | |
of investment in Scotland and Wales through this programme along with | :41:34. | :41:37. | |
other projects. This is a continuation of our determination to | :41:38. | :41:40. | |
be a government for the whole of the UK. In order to target pockets of | :41:41. | :41:45. | |
severe deprivation so that all can benefit from growth and prosperity, | :41:46. | :41:50. | |
the UK Government will also provide ?20 million a year for five years to | :41:51. | :42:03. | |
the Northern Ireland executive. We will also ensure that all parts of | :42:04. | :42:05. | |
the UK are properly reflected in the future UK Shared Prosperity Fund as | :42:06. | :42:08. | |
we exit the European Union. As our manifesto made clear, we are also | :42:09. | :42:10. | |
increasing our commitment to investment in public services across | :42:11. | :42:16. | |
the UK. That is why we pledged a minimum of ?8 billion in additional | :42:17. | :42:19. | |
NHS funding in real terms over the next five years and it is also why | :42:20. | :42:23. | |
we pledged to increase funding in real terms per head in every year. | :42:24. | :42:29. | |
Our spending on the NHS in England is also translated into extra | :42:30. | :42:32. | |
spending in Scotland and Wales through the Barnett Formula. How | :42:33. | :42:36. | |
that is spent is of course a matter for the Scottish and Welsh | :42:37. | :42:50. | |
governments. To address immediate priorities in Northern Ireland, the | :42:51. | :42:53. | |
UK Government will also allocate an additional ?50 million per year for | :42:54. | :42:56. | |
two years to enable the executive to address pressures in health and | :42:57. | :42:58. | |
education and recognising the priority given by the executive to | :42:59. | :43:00. | |
securing De Boer, sustainable health service in Northern Ireland, the UK | :43:01. | :43:02. | |
Government will allocate ?100 million per year for two years to | :43:03. | :43:07. | |
support the executive's priority of health service transformation. The | :43:08. | :43:10. | |
government and executive also agreed on the importance of support for | :43:11. | :43:14. | |
mental health, particularly recognising the historical impact of | :43:15. | :43:17. | |
Northern Ireland's passed on its communities. | :43:18. | :43:22. | |
I am glad the Shadow Foreign Secretary finds that amusing, mental | :43:23. | :43:28. | |
health in Northern Ireland, I find that surprising. The UK Government | :43:29. | :43:32. | |
will provide ?10 million a year for five years to support the Northern | :43:33. | :43:36. | |
Ireland Executive to deliver this measure. Our general election | :43:37. | :43:38. | |
manifesto made clear that there would be no change in the pensions | :43:39. | :43:43. | |
triple-lock before 2020. As part of this agreement both parties have | :43:44. | :43:46. | |
agreed there will be no change to triple-lock for the duration of this | :43:47. | :43:50. | |
Parliament. We further agreed that there would be no change to the | :43:51. | :43:58. | |
universal nature of the Winter Fuel Payment. The Prime Minister said we | :43:59. | :44:01. | |
would listen to what people said during the election campaign and | :44:02. | :44:03. | |
this is an example of our doing so. Mr Speaker, as the party with the | :44:04. | :44:08. | |
most seats at the general election, the Conservative Party had a duty to | :44:09. | :44:11. | |
form a government. It is right we talk to other parties to seek to | :44:12. | :44:16. | |
ensure that the government can provide the confidence the country | :44:17. | :44:20. | |
needs at this crucial time. Mr Speaker, I commend this statement to | :44:21. | :44:24. | |
the House. SPEAKER: Emily Thornberry. Mr Speaker, this is a | :44:25. | :44:32. | |
shabby and a reckless deal, which has taken the government at least ?1 | :44:33. | :44:38. | |
billion to buy, and whose true cost for the future of peace in Northern | :44:39. | :44:42. | |
Ireland could be infinitely higher. The Good Friday Agreement is rightly | :44:43. | :44:46. | |
seen across the world as a model for other countries who are seeking to | :44:47. | :44:50. | |
end conflict, but it is also fragile and relies, above all, on trust, | :44:51. | :44:55. | |
good faith and the impartiality of the British Government. So for the | :44:56. | :45:00. | |
government to be put on a Mac putting such an agreement in | :45:01. | :45:05. | |
jeopardy just to prop up this dismal Prime Minister is nothing short of | :45:06. | :45:10. | |
disgraceful stop so, can I ask the first secretary what legal advice | :45:11. | :45:13. | |
the government has received on whether today's agreement is | :45:14. | :45:17. | |
compatible under its legal obligations under the Good Friday | :45:18. | :45:20. | |
Agreement and will he publish the advice today? Mr Speaker, I won't | :45:21. | :45:24. | |
waste time discussing the so-called policy agreements set out today, | :45:25. | :45:28. | |
after all it was not the DUP who forced this government to ditch | :45:29. | :45:35. | |
their plans to hit pensioners' incomes. The British people did that | :45:36. | :45:38. | |
on June the 8th. No, this agreement is all about the money. Let me ask | :45:39. | :45:45. | |
the first secretary for some clarity on funding. First, can he explain | :45:46. | :45:57. | |
how much extra funding will go to support infrastructure, broadband, | :45:58. | :45:59. | |
deprivation in the rest of the deprivation in the rest of the | :46:00. | :46:00. | |
begrudge the ?1 billion of extra begrudge the ?1 billion of extra | :46:01. | :46:02. | |
support for these areas in Northern Ireland. But in Scotland, in Wales, | :46:03. | :46:06. | |
and other English regions of the UK the needs are just as great. So when | :46:07. | :46:12. | |
will the rest of the country be getting its share? Second, the | :46:13. | :46:16. | |
agreement says that there will be a consultation on reducing VAT on | :46:17. | :46:21. | |
tourism in Northern Ireland. Now, just a year ago the current Minister | :46:22. | :46:25. | |
of stay for security told this House that the government had concluding | :46:26. | :46:29. | |
the costs of such a VAT cut would outweigh the benefits and that this | :46:30. | :46:31. | |
was not something the government would consider. So, can I ask the | :46:32. | :46:37. | |
first secretary what has made the government to change its mind? In | :46:38. | :46:41. | |
the light of his commitment today, to be fair to all parts of the | :46:42. | :46:45. | |
United Kingdom, will he extend this consultation to all parts of the UK | :46:46. | :46:49. | |
are seeking to support better as and hospitality industries? And if not, | :46:50. | :46:54. | |
why does he not include the likes of Blackburn, Margate or Colwyn Bay? | :46:55. | :47:00. | |
And thirdly and finally, and most importantly, can the first secretary | :47:01. | :47:05. | |
tell us this? When the extra ?1 billion announced today will come | :47:06. | :47:09. | |
from -- where. During the election he was fond of telling interviewers | :47:10. | :47:13. | |
there was no magic monetary. So what has happened today? Has he found the | :47:14. | :47:22. | |
keys to the secret Garden? Or is the truth is that like everything else | :47:23. | :47:25. | |
that this government says and does it can all be ditched if it helps | :47:26. | :47:32. | |
them to hang onto power, no matter the bedfellows, no matter what the | :47:33. | :47:36. | |
manifesto said, no matter where the money comes from, no matter the | :47:37. | :47:40. | |
unfairness for the rest of Britain, and no matter the consequences for | :47:41. | :47:44. | |
peace? Batcombe on Mr Speaker, is no way to lead a government and | :47:45. | :47:49. | |
definitely no way to run a country. Mr Damian Green. Let me deal with | :47:50. | :47:55. | |
some of the detailed points that the Right Honourable lady has just made. | :47:56. | :47:59. | |
She seems to speak that providing more money for Northern Ireland's | :48:00. | :48:06. | |
health and education, broadband, and other parts of infrastructure in | :48:07. | :48:10. | |
some ways, makes it less likely that an executive will be formed. I can | :48:11. | :48:14. | |
assure her it makes it more likely that an executive will be formed. | :48:15. | :48:18. | |
She asked about infrastructure help for the rest of the country. I am | :48:19. | :48:22. | |
happy to repeat some of the things I said in my statement and add to | :48:23. | :48:27. | |
them. We have pledged to provide ?8 million of new money for the health | :48:28. | :48:32. | |
service, ?4 billion for education, and we have an overall | :48:33. | :48:36. | |
infrastructure fund of ?23 billion, so the rest of the country | :48:37. | :48:45. | |
absolutely will share in the infrastructure spending we have | :48:46. | :48:49. | |
promised. She asks, of course, about how we can afford this. We can | :48:50. | :48:52. | |
afford this because we have a strong economy after seven years of | :48:53. | :48:57. | |
Conservative government. It takes some nerve for a party which had | :48:58. | :49:00. | |
tens of billions of pounds of unfunded commitments at the election | :49:01. | :49:05. | |
to complain about targeted infrastructure spending and spending | :49:06. | :49:11. | |
specifically designed to help some of the most deprived communities in | :49:12. | :49:18. | |
this country. The party opposite also had the idea to nationalise | :49:19. | :49:22. | |
half of British industry and said it would not cost any money because, | :49:23. | :49:25. | |
although they would borrow the money, that didn't count as | :49:26. | :49:28. | |
borrowing because they would pay it back out of the profits of the | :49:29. | :49:32. | |
industry. I have two things to say to the Right Honourable lady. First | :49:33. | :49:36. | |
of all, if you borrow money it is still borrowing, and secondly after | :49:37. | :49:39. | |
six months of delay the government running industry they wouldn't be | :49:40. | :49:42. | |
any profits to pay back any of the borrowing. I think where she is | :49:43. | :49:48. | |
fundamentally wrong is the thought that this doesn't help what is a | :49:49. | :49:54. | |
hugely important week for Northern Ireland to try to make sure we | :49:55. | :50:00. | |
restore proper devolved democratic government to Northern Ireland. I | :50:01. | :50:05. | |
think helping the executive to be set up will be one of the great | :50:06. | :50:09. | |
achievements of this week. What she has missed is this extra support, | :50:10. | :50:14. | |
this extra money, goes to all communities in Northern Ireland, run | :50:15. | :50:16. | |
by the Northern Ireland Executive, so that people from all political | :50:17. | :50:22. | |
traditions and all communities will benefit from this extra money. I | :50:23. | :50:25. | |
would have thought, frankly, she would welcome that. The good Doctor, | :50:26. | :50:34. | |
Doctor Julian Lewis. In the discussions with the Democratic | :50:35. | :50:36. | |
Unionists, did my Right Honourable friend take any progress on the | :50:37. | :50:41. | |
question of protection for former service personnel who still face the | :50:42. | :50:48. | |
possibility of prosecution many years after fatal incidents in the | :50:49. | :50:57. | |
period of the Troubles? I am grateful to my Right Honourable | :50:58. | :50:59. | |
friend for that question. The answer is, yes, we seek to ensure proper | :51:00. | :51:06. | |
fairness in the issue that he raises, and in other legacy issues, | :51:07. | :51:10. | |
and I'm sure the agreement that comes out of our talks with the DUP | :51:11. | :51:16. | |
will help advance a balanced and fair solution to those issues. Mr | :51:17. | :51:23. | |
Pete Wishart. Mr Speaker, this is quite simply a pathetic, grubby | :51:24. | :51:28. | |
little deal demonstrating the worst excesses of pork barrel politics, | :51:29. | :51:30. | |
designed to prop up a government without a majority and increasingly | :51:31. | :51:37. | |
without any credibility whatsoever. We now know that ?1.5 billion is the | :51:38. | :51:42. | |
price this country will have to pay to keep this shambolic government in | :51:43. | :51:46. | |
power. This was a government that warned of the coalition of chaos. | :51:47. | :51:53. | |
This is much, much worse than that. The Conservatives and the DUP, | :51:54. | :51:57. | |
exacting a price from this government. The funds across the UK | :51:58. | :52:04. | |
will be delivered at the expense of all the other nations of the UK. | :52:05. | :52:10. | |
Only 24 hours ago the Secretary of State for Scotland was categorically | :52:11. | :52:21. | |
ensuring that Scotland would be in line for full funding. He either is | :52:22. | :52:28. | |
misleading as or he has no idea what is going on because the Scots will | :52:29. | :52:33. | |
get nothing out of this deal. Can I ask the Secretary of State what | :52:34. | :52:35. | |
representations he has received from the Scotland Office, or any of these | :52:36. | :52:41. | |
other new Scottish members of Parliament that said they would | :52:42. | :52:44. | |
stand up for Scotland? If the Barnett Formula is to be bypassed | :52:45. | :52:48. | |
what will Scotland get out of this? Why has the Barnett Formula been | :52:49. | :52:52. | |
bypassed when it comes to this deal? This is a huge test for these new | :52:53. | :52:57. | |
Scottish Tory members of Parliament. They either stand up for Scotland | :52:58. | :53:02. | |
and Scotland's funding interests or they stand behind this chaotic | :53:03. | :53:04. | |
government and their new best friends. The honourable gentleman is | :53:05. | :53:13. | |
so far wide of the mark that it's almost laughable. He makes a point | :53:14. | :53:19. | |
that this comes from the block grant and specifically says this is | :53:20. | :53:24. | |
outside the Barnett Formula. Let me give him some facts about what's | :53:25. | :53:28. | |
happening in Scotland. Video outside the Barnett Formula for Glasgow of | :53:29. | :53:35. | |
?500 million. A city deal for Aberdeen outside the Barnett Formula | :53:36. | :53:41. | |
of ?125 million. A city deal for Inverness outside the Barnett | :53:42. | :53:46. | |
Formula of ?53 million. Would he like me to go on? Five leading | :53:47. | :53:51. | |
pounds for the V in Dundee outside the Barnett Formula. 5 million for | :53:52. | :53:57. | |
the Glasgow School of Art, 5 million for the water fund. There is huge | :53:58. | :54:00. | |
amounts of money going to Scotland outside the Barnett Formula as well | :54:01. | :54:03. | |
as inside the Barnett Formula, and if the SNP don't recognise this, I | :54:04. | :54:08. | |
suggest they go back to their constituencies and find out what's | :54:09. | :54:13. | |
happening in Scotland. Maria Miller! Thank you, Mr Speaker, can I welcome | :54:14. | :54:18. | |
my Right Honourable friend's statement today that sadly some of | :54:19. | :54:22. | |
you have used rather opportunistically to suggest this | :54:23. | :54:25. | |
means the government has changed its policies when it comes to the | :54:26. | :54:28. | |
quality matters, particularly on equal marriage and access to | :54:29. | :54:32. | |
abortion. Perhaps my Right Honourable friend could use this | :54:33. | :54:35. | |
opportunity to update the House on those issues. I am extremely happy | :54:36. | :54:40. | |
to reassure my Right Honourable friend, and indeed colleagues on all | :54:41. | :54:45. | |
sides of the House, that this deal has no impact on those sorts of | :54:46. | :54:49. | |
issues, particularly the issue of equal marriage, which she brings up. | :54:50. | :54:56. | |
As she will see from the agreement, the agreement covers financial | :54:57. | :55:02. | |
deals, Brexit legislation, security legislation and the Queen's speech, | :55:03. | :55:05. | |
and she will no doubt have seen that in the Queen's speech that the | :55:06. | :55:08. | |
government reconnects its commitment to equality across all grounds and | :55:09. | :55:14. | |
that commitment is as strong today as it ever has been. Yvette Cooper. | :55:15. | :55:20. | |
Further to that point, Mr Speaker, will the government now use this to | :55:21. | :55:24. | |
deal with the huge anomaly when Northern Ireland women are being | :55:25. | :55:28. | |
expected to be charged in NHS hospitals in the UK, the NHS in the | :55:29. | :55:35. | |
UK, for abortions? Would he agree that this is hugely unfair on women | :55:36. | :55:42. | |
from Northern Ireland who travel to England, Scotland or Wales for an | :55:43. | :55:44. | |
abortion which treats them completely unfairly and is unjust | :55:45. | :55:53. | |
for women's rights? I appreciate the strength of the Right Honourable | :55:54. | :55:57. | |
lady's convictions on these issues. I would point out to her that this | :55:58. | :56:04. | |
comes under the heading of a health matter and it is therefore devolved | :56:05. | :56:09. | |
to Northern Ireland. It is for people in Northern Ireland to decide | :56:10. | :56:14. | |
issues like this. This is the logic of devolution, that issues like this | :56:15. | :56:16. | |
should be decided in the devolved authorities, just as health matters | :56:17. | :56:22. | |
are decided already by the Scottish and Welsh governments. Since we all | :56:23. | :56:28. | |
hope, I assume we all hope, that we should have a devolved executive in | :56:29. | :56:32. | |
Northern Ireland, it is for the people of Northern Ireland to decide | :56:33. | :56:37. | |
these matters. SPEAKER: Stephen Crabb al-Samah I welcome my Right | :56:38. | :56:41. | |
Honourable friend's statement and personal commitment to ensuring that | :56:42. | :56:45. | |
the imbalances and inequalities that exist in all parts of the United | :56:46. | :56:49. | |
Kingdom are effectively tackled by this government. Could he say a bit | :56:50. | :56:52. | |
more about how the UK prosperity fund will be used to raise economic | :56:53. | :56:56. | |
output in the poorest parts of the United Kingdom and could I encourage | :56:57. | :57:00. | |
him to keep an open mind on some of the ideas Welsh colleagues may have | :57:01. | :57:05. | |
on further investment? I am very happy that my Right Honourable | :57:06. | :57:08. | |
friend brings up the UK prosperity fund, which we will introduce when | :57:09. | :57:13. | |
Brexit has been completed, because it is precisely to help | :57:14. | :57:16. | |
disadvantaged communities across the whole of the United Kingdom, some of | :57:17. | :57:21. | |
them will be in England, it is meant to replace the money that has gone | :57:22. | :57:25. | |
through European institutions to some of our deprived communities. I | :57:26. | :57:29. | |
know communities in Cornwall have benefited from that. Absolutely | :57:30. | :57:32. | |
there will be communities in Wales, as they will be in Scotland and | :57:33. | :57:36. | |
Northern Ireland and other parts of the UK, like the north-east, that | :57:37. | :57:40. | |
will benefit from that. I am always open to creative ideas from any part | :57:41. | :57:44. | |
of the UK about how best to spend that sort of money. Stella Creasy. | :57:45. | :57:49. | |
Let me explain to the minister why there is a concern on this side of | :57:50. | :57:54. | |
the house about those women from Northern Ireland because this is not | :57:55. | :57:58. | |
a devolved matter, this is when they come to our shores via as UK | :57:59. | :58:04. | |
taxpayers and their ability to use UK services. I note in the official | :58:05. | :58:09. | |
agreement that it says the government is committed to providing | :58:10. | :58:13. | |
health care services which meet the needs of everyone, no matter who | :58:14. | :58:17. | |
they are or where they live. It does not seem like that when it comes to | :58:18. | :58:21. | |
these women so can the Minister confirm of the access to abortion in | :58:22. | :58:28. | |
England as was discussed as part of the negotiations or that Northern | :58:29. | :58:32. | |
Ireland laws on abortion have been found to violate the UK's human | :58:33. | :58:36. | |
rights responsible abuse and the government make any commitment to | :58:37. | :58:40. | |
the DUP about this matter or art Northern Irish women expected to pay | :58:41. | :58:43. | |
the price of what feels like a forced marriage? I'm happy to assure | :58:44. | :58:49. | |
that the honourable lady and the house that the agreement is what is | :58:50. | :58:56. | |
set out, there are no private or side agreement is attached to this. | :58:57. | :59:02. | |
This is completely open. I appreciate the strength of feeling | :59:03. | :59:07. | |
she brings to this and it is clearly a political discussion she may wish | :59:08. | :59:10. | |
to bring about in Northern Ireland when we have a devolved executive. | :59:11. | :59:17. | |
Jeremy Quin. Can I welcome the government's funding of city deals | :59:18. | :59:23. | |
in Northern Ireland and also urge the government to continue foreign | :59:24. | :59:28. | |
investment into the province? My honourable friend makes a good point | :59:29. | :59:33. | |
that foreign direct investment is extremely helpful to the Northern | :59:34. | :59:37. | |
Ireland economy as it is to the UK economy as a whole. It is absolutely | :59:38. | :59:45. | |
the case that we wish to better utilise our embassies and high | :59:46. | :59:47. | |
commissions around the world not just to boost exports which is | :59:48. | :59:52. | |
traditionally regarded as one of their important roles but to also | :59:53. | :59:56. | |
help foreign direct investment particularly to those parts of the | :59:57. | :59:59. | |
UK including Northern Ireland that would most benefit from it. Alistair | :00:00. | :00:05. | |
Carmichael. I think the first secretary for the statement, my | :00:06. | :00:10. | |
first thought in seeing it was that the government had scraped the | :00:11. | :00:13. | |
bottom of the barrel in reaching it and I had to tell him, I suspect he | :00:14. | :00:18. | |
will learn in the coming months that there is probably no bottom to that | :00:19. | :00:22. | |
barrel will stop the government cannot be blind to the fact that | :00:23. | :00:27. | |
this agreement does place in jeopardy their role under the Good | :00:28. | :00:30. | |
Friday Agreement and that agreement can only be secured if the | :00:31. | :00:36. | |
government will commit to transparency, not just today but | :00:37. | :00:39. | |
every step of the way for as long as this agreement lasts. Will we get | :00:40. | :00:46. | |
that transparency? I don't agree with the honourable gentleman that | :00:47. | :00:54. | |
this hinders the formation of a new executive and therefore the | :00:55. | :00:56. | |
implementation of the Good Friday Agreement. I think this agreement | :00:57. | :00:59. | |
will help the full implementation of it. And since what the confidence | :01:00. | :01:07. | |
and supply agreement entailed is support from the DUP for the | :01:08. | :01:15. | |
government's programme in its key areas in this house, the | :01:16. | :01:18. | |
transparency will come when he observes people going through the | :01:19. | :01:21. | |
division lobbies in a public way as they traditionally do. James | :01:22. | :01:28. | |
Duddridge. In welcoming the additional votes the DUP brink of I | :01:29. | :01:34. | |
criticise the government for not being bold enough, as the Labour | :01:35. | :01:39. | |
front bench with the back bench and the backbench to the front bench, it | :01:40. | :01:44. | |
left a lot of Labour MP disaffected, a number of people who do not | :01:45. | :01:50. | |
identify themselves as Leninist or Marxist or even socialist so could | :01:51. | :01:54. | |
we send out a warm offered for those discontented members opposite to | :01:55. | :01:56. | |
vote with us in the lobbies to deliver this Queen 's speech? My | :01:57. | :02:02. | |
honourable friend makes a very shrewd point and indeed I would | :02:03. | :02:09. | |
extend that invitation and seriously there will be large part of the | :02:10. | :02:13. | |
Queen's speech both in terms of economic regeneration and in terms | :02:14. | :02:17. | |
of issues like mental health where I would genuinely hope that we might | :02:18. | :02:21. | |
seek support and get support from all sides of the house because there | :02:22. | :02:26. | |
are many issues on which actually partisan politics will not | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
necessarily apply. Some of them are included in the built in the Queen's | :02:31. | :02:34. | |
speech and I look forward to men and women of goodwill from all sides of | :02:35. | :02:41. | |
the house of supporting those bills. Can I warmly welcome the first | :02:42. | :02:46. | |
secretary's statement today and it is a good agreement for the United | :02:47. | :02:49. | |
Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and a good | :02:50. | :02:53. | |
agreement for all of the people of Northern Ireland and in particular | :02:54. | :02:56. | |
the money for mental health and in terms of hard to reach areas, all | :02:57. | :03:01. | |
the money outlined is for every section of the community in Northern | :03:02. | :03:05. | |
Ireland. This is a deal that delivers for all the people of | :03:06. | :03:08. | |
Northern Ireland. We commit to transparency, we are very open to | :03:09. | :03:12. | |
that and some they I would like to think we might publish all of the | :03:13. | :03:19. | |
correspondence and conversation we had in 2010 with the Labour front | :03:20. | :03:25. | |
bench and in 2015 with the Labour front bench and indeed with the SNP | :03:26. | :03:32. | |
as well. Because some of the faux outrage we have heard is hypocrisy | :03:33. | :03:39. | |
of the highest order. Mr Speaker, we look forward to working with the | :03:40. | :03:43. | |
government over the course of the next five years to deliver a | :03:44. | :03:49. | |
strengthened union of the United Kingdom come to deliver Brexit and | :03:50. | :03:52. | |
prosperity to all ports of the UK and most more to protect and defend | :03:53. | :03:56. | |
our country at home and abroad. -- all parts of the UK. I of course | :03:57. | :04:04. | |
welcome completely the words of my right honourable friend. He and I | :04:05. | :04:10. | |
have spent more time together over the past few weeks has been our want | :04:11. | :04:15. | |
in the past and I can assure him it has been a life enhancing experience | :04:16. | :04:19. | |
at all times and I very much welcome the support of him and his | :04:20. | :04:26. | |
colleagues on those benches so that we can, as he says, strengthen the | :04:27. | :04:30. | |
union, strengthen the economy in all parts of this country, debt Brexit | :04:31. | :04:34. | |
deal that works for the whole of the country and provide us with a | :04:35. | :04:39. | |
competent government to go through the next five years. -- confident. | :04:40. | :04:47. | |
Mark Harper. Can I welcome what might right honourable friend has | :04:48. | :04:52. | |
set out, the most important thing he mentioned was getting the devolved | :04:53. | :04:56. | |
institutions back up and running but if this deal, together with the | :04:57. | :04:59. | |
money that was promised under the previous agreements, can help that, | :05:00. | :05:04. | |
it is to be welcomed. That will strengthen the United Kingdom and | :05:05. | :05:07. | |
the partnership for the countries within it and I welcome both what he | :05:08. | :05:10. | |
has said and what the right honourable gentleman said across the | :05:11. | :05:16. | |
aisle. I think my right honourable friend is right, not just to repeat | :05:17. | :05:20. | |
what is a hugely important point, which is that the money will go to | :05:21. | :05:30. | |
all parts of Northern Ireland. It will benefit all communities in | :05:31. | :05:34. | |
Northern Ireland and that should be a significant step towards making | :05:35. | :05:37. | |
sure we have a successful conclusion to these vitally important talks | :05:38. | :05:44. | |
about the resetting up of a devolved executive which I am sure everyone | :05:45. | :05:50. | |
in this house wants to see. Paul Flynn. The minister concerned and | :05:51. | :05:59. | |
his performance today is likely to bring crude hypocrisy into some | :06:00. | :06:05. | |
disrepute. The government has just lost an election, they made | :06:06. | :06:10. | |
themselves and the country more unstable and weaker than they were | :06:11. | :06:15. | |
before, in order to again correct problems within the Tory party they | :06:16. | :06:20. | |
are using this crude bribe. Is not the answer today that those MPs who | :06:21. | :06:25. | |
represent Wales and Scotland have got to put our country's first and | :06:26. | :06:30. | |
the result of this is that the government is making the United | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
Kingdom more divided than ever. I think the problem with the | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
honourable gentleman's analysis is what he started with, that this | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
party lost the election. No, we didn't, his party lost the election. | :06:45. | :06:49. | |
It lost its third election in a row and we all know the result, that | :06:50. | :06:56. | |
Labour won more seats than most of its own members thought, there are | :06:57. | :06:59. | |
people on those benches who assumed they would be out about job now and | :07:00. | :07:04. | |
in the spirit of nonpartisanship I welcome them back to this house but | :07:05. | :07:08. | |
nevertheless the idea that the Labour Party won the election is | :07:09. | :07:12. | |
fantasy which I think is dying out even in the wilder shores of | :07:13. | :07:20. | |
Momentum. Given that the DUP's well-known hard-nosed negotiators | :07:21. | :07:24. | |
have done deals generally for about ?1 billion when they need | :07:25. | :07:27. | |
arrangements from the UK Government, can I congratulate my might | :07:28. | :07:30. | |
honourable friend on the fabulous value for money he has obtained in | :07:31. | :07:34. | |
the confidence and supply arrangement lasting five years and | :07:35. | :07:38. | |
delivering Brexit comparing rather well with the 2008 arrangement when, | :07:39. | :07:44. | |
for one vote on a 42 day detention when we were joined in the lobbies | :07:45. | :07:48. | |
by the Leader of the Opposition, the Shadow Chancellor, Shadow Foreign | :07:49. | :07:51. | |
Secretary and Shadow Home Secretary, for around the same amount of money | :07:52. | :07:54. | |
for one vote which was then reversed in the House of Lords, this deal | :07:55. | :07:59. | |
looks spectacularly good value for money for the UK. I think I thank my | :08:00. | :08:09. | |
honourable friend for that question! Indeed, I'm happy to agree with him | :08:10. | :08:13. | |
that this is indeed a very good deal not just for Northern Ireland but | :08:14. | :08:16. | |
for the whole of the United Kingdom. Ronnie Campbell. Will the Minister | :08:17. | :08:21. | |
be aware that the north-east of England is one of the poorest areas | :08:22. | :08:24. | |
in the country and we do not have a Barnett Formula. Is he giving our | :08:25. | :08:36. | |
money away, will we get what we are getting or will they get nothing? If | :08:37. | :08:41. | |
the honourable gentleman wants to come and talk to us about a deal, | :08:42. | :08:50. | |
I'm sure... I'm sure he and indeed his constituents would be very | :08:51. | :08:53. | |
welcome. I can absolutely assure him that this does not involved by | :08:54. | :08:58. | |
diverting money from any of the various programmes that we use and | :08:59. | :09:04. | |
indeed the UK prosperity fund will I hope be able to help some part of | :09:05. | :09:08. | |
his area and he is more than welcome to keep an eye on that but as he | :09:09. | :09:13. | |
knows, there are many city deals across England, the metro met in | :09:14. | :09:18. | |
Teesside I am sure will do great things for that area as well -- the | :09:19. | :09:23. | |
metro map. We are committed to part of the UK including the one which he | :09:24. | :09:28. | |
represents such distinction. Thank you Mr Speaker. I did think the | :09:29. | :09:34. | |
first secretary mentioned difference in his statement -- I don't think. | :09:35. | :09:40. | |
But can I ask him to confirm what I think I have read elsewhere, that | :09:41. | :09:45. | |
the Democratic Unionist Party and the Conservative Party agreed we | :09:46. | :09:49. | |
will spend a minimum of 2% on defence? My honourable friend is | :09:50. | :09:54. | |
indeed right, I'm sorry I did not read out the entire agreement | :09:55. | :09:58. | |
because I think you, Mr Speaker, might have objected to that but he | :09:59. | :10:02. | |
is absolutely right. One of the things on which the DUP and the | :10:03. | :10:06. | |
Conservative Party are completely united is making sure we meet our | :10:07. | :10:11. | |
Nato commitment to spend 2% of GDP on defence and I hope he would | :10:12. | :10:16. | |
welcome to date the first sailing of the new aircraft carrier which shows | :10:17. | :10:21. | |
that this party and indeed the DUP are very serious about defending our | :10:22. | :10:31. | |
country. Tracy Brabin. Could I take this opportunity to thank U, Mr | :10:32. | :10:36. | |
Speaker, for Saturday, for the fantastic family event where this | :10:37. | :10:39. | |
chamber was full of the sound of children and joy and you handled it | :10:40. | :10:43. | |
with grace. I would also like to encourage all members to take a look | :10:44. | :10:47. | |
at the coat of arms for our much loved Jo Cox and enjoy the symbolism | :10:48. | :10:53. | |
of mountains, the Thames, women's suffrage and of course the Yorkshire | :10:54. | :10:58. | |
rose. My question is, the global goal five which we agreed to state | :10:59. | :11:04. | |
there has to be reproductive rights for all women. Will the deal with | :11:05. | :11:08. | |
the DUP mean we have stopped our progress towards this goal, losing | :11:09. | :11:12. | |
our position as one of the global leaders fighting for equality for | :11:13. | :11:17. | |
all? First of all can I associate myself with the very outside the | :11:18. | :11:23. | |
marks the Honourable Lady makes about the Jo Cox Memorial, which | :11:24. | :11:29. | |
indeed is very good to see in this house on what was a very sad | :11:30. | :11:34. | |
anniversary of years. In terms of her question, as I said to her | :11:35. | :11:39. | |
Honourable friends, this is a matter to be decided in Northern Ireland by | :11:40. | :11:45. | |
Northern Ireland politicians and the people of Northern Ireland and that | :11:46. | :11:48. | |
is where she should be making her arguments. Mr Andrew Bowie. Can my | :11:49. | :11:56. | |
right honourable friend confirm that this government is committed to | :11:57. | :12:00. | |
ensuring that everyone from every nation and region of our United | :12:01. | :12:05. | |
Kingdom are able to share in the proceeds of continued economic | :12:06. | :12:08. | |
growth? Of course, as already mentioned, one such weight has been | :12:09. | :12:11. | |
the successful city deals from which my constituency of West | :12:12. | :12:16. | |
Aberdeenshire to the Aberdeen city deal has greatly benefited so what | :12:17. | :12:22. | |
will the government do to boost investment in Northern Ireland and | :12:23. | :12:24. | |
spread the benefit of such mechanisms as these? | :12:25. | :12:33. | |
Can I welcome my right honourable friend to his place and he is | :12:34. | :12:38. | |
completely right to point out the benefits of the investments that has | :12:39. | :12:42. | |
been made in his constituency, thanks to the strong economic | :12:43. | :12:45. | |
progress made by this government over the past seven years, which | :12:46. | :12:51. | |
means we can afford regeneration and investment like that in a way that | :12:52. | :12:54. | |
those who would run the economy down, wouldn't be able to afford. I | :12:55. | :12:59. | |
am happy to assure him and indeed the people of Northern Ireland the | :13:00. | :13:04. | |
same strength of the economy can be used, will be used to regenerate | :13:05. | :13:10. | |
communities all over the United Kingdom, including Northern Ireland. | :13:11. | :13:16. | |
I hope I have pronounced the surname of the right honourable member and I | :13:17. | :13:23. | |
hope the honourable gentleman is as a devoted admirer of the late and | :13:24. | :13:29. | |
great David Barry as I have been. Mr David Hanson. Could the first | :13:30. | :13:36. | |
secretary concern the extra money he has announced today is to the | :13:37. | :13:43. | |
Northern Ireland assembly, not one particular party. Could he agreed | :13:44. | :13:47. | |
the money has been agreed and if priorities have been agreed, by all | :13:48. | :13:52. | |
parties they may form executive on Thursday? As I said on a number of | :13:53. | :13:58. | |
occasions, absolutely, this is money for Northern Ireland, for the whole | :13:59. | :14:03. | |
of Northern Ireland, it is not for one party in Northern Ireland, it is | :14:04. | :14:07. | |
not for one community in Northern Ireland, it is for the whole of | :14:08. | :14:11. | |
Northern Ireland. As I said in response to the shadow first | :14:12. | :14:17. | |
secretary, I am surprised people on the Labour benches are not welcoming | :14:18. | :14:22. | |
this extra money, particularly money for disadvantaged communities in | :14:23. | :14:26. | |
Northern Ireland. There was a time when the Labour Party purported to | :14:27. | :14:31. | |
care about disadvantaged communities. Would he agree with me | :14:32. | :14:37. | |
a lot has been said in recent weeks about the importance of working with | :14:38. | :14:42. | |
others across the aisle in the national interest, but not everybody | :14:43. | :14:46. | |
seems to like that in practice. Would he agree, I think the words of | :14:47. | :14:52. | |
Ronald Reagan, but somebody you agree with 80% of the time, is 80% | :14:53. | :15:00. | |
friend and ally and not 20% ally. It is an extremely good quotation which | :15:01. | :15:04. | |
I must confess I have never heard before and I will shamelessly use | :15:05. | :15:11. | |
that. I sat for four years in a coalition government with the | :15:12. | :15:14. | |
Liberal Democrats, I'm quite happy to admit there will be times when | :15:15. | :15:19. | |
one has strong disagreements with those in another party, but you can | :15:20. | :15:22. | |
still work alongside them for the interests of the country as a whole | :15:23. | :15:27. | |
and that is a duty we should all take on board. I am sure the first | :15:28. | :15:38. | |
secretary will agree with me it is a remarkable day the Labour Party | :15:39. | :15:44. | |
criticises investment in school, investment in roads, investment in | :15:45. | :15:49. | |
housing, investment and jobs and threatening the peace process. It is | :15:50. | :15:54. | |
bonkers to suggest that is the case, but perhaps some on the Labour | :15:55. | :15:58. | |
frontbencher might want to reflect on their past equivocation when it | :15:59. | :16:03. | |
came to supporting the IRA and what that sons and the message that sense | :16:04. | :16:06. | |
to young people today in Northern Ireland who might be thinking about | :16:07. | :16:13. | |
taking up arms in the future. I am happy to agree with my right | :16:14. | :16:21. | |
honourable friend that it is clear anything that AIDS investment, | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
particularly for disadvantaged communities ought to help produce a | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
more positive political atmosphere in Northern Ireland and I am sure | :16:31. | :16:34. | |
the Labour front bench has heard his other thoughts with interest as | :16:35. | :16:42. | |
well. In welcoming this deal and increased role of Northern Ireland | :16:43. | :16:46. | |
MPs in Westminster affairs, would the first secretary agree, it is | :16:47. | :16:50. | |
time to look again at critical donations to the Irish party to make | :16:51. | :16:57. | |
sure they are in line with the rules in terms of transparency? This is | :16:58. | :17:03. | |
not part of the agreement, so it is not directly relevant to the | :17:04. | :17:07. | |
statement I am making today, but I am sure the House will have heard my | :17:08. | :17:11. | |
honourable friend and will no doubt wish to discuss those matters | :17:12. | :17:19. | |
further in the future. The first secretary of state said funding | :17:20. | :17:23. | |
would go to a restored Northern Ireland executive. If the Northern | :17:24. | :17:29. | |
Ireland executive is not restored, will the money still go there, or | :17:30. | :17:34. | |
will it not go until the executive is restored? I think at this stage | :17:35. | :17:40. | |
with three days to go before the deadline, the sensible thing for me | :17:41. | :17:44. | |
to point out is that the Conservative Party is completely | :17:45. | :17:49. | |
committed to getting the executive re-established. And indeed the DUP | :17:50. | :17:54. | |
is completely committed to getting the Executive re-establish. We both | :17:55. | :17:59. | |
believe decisions about funding for different public services in | :18:00. | :18:02. | |
Northern Ireland should be taken by politicians in Northern Ireland. | :18:03. | :18:07. | |
That is the logic of the devolution settlement we have with other | :18:08. | :18:10. | |
countries within the United Kingdom and that's the position we want to | :18:11. | :18:13. | |
get back to Northern Ireland as well. Spreading infrastructure | :18:14. | :18:25. | |
development, bringing stability to the government, delivering the Good | :18:26. | :18:28. | |
Friday Agreement and implementing a soft border with the Republic of | :18:29. | :18:31. | |
Ireland are all good for Northern Ireland and the United Kingdom. If | :18:32. | :18:36. | |
none of that is welcome to the member for Perth and his party | :18:37. | :18:42. | |
opposite, would the government confirm that we would receive back | :18:43. | :18:53. | |
money from the SNP Scottish money the cities? I don't believe I missed | :18:54. | :18:58. | |
the SNP speaks for Scotland. I am interested in the prosperity and the | :18:59. | :19:02. | |
future of the Scottish people just as I am of the people of England, | :19:03. | :19:08. | |
Wales and Northern Ireland. That is the object of being Unionist. | :19:09. | :19:16. | |
Hospitals, schools and other public services in my constituency continue | :19:17. | :19:22. | |
to face unprecedented cuts. How does this government justify finding 1.5 | :19:23. | :19:26. | |
billion in order to achieve self preservation and is there any money | :19:27. | :19:32. | |
on the magic money tree for the Jewsbury constituency? As I have | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
explained to this shadow first secretary, this government is | :19:38. | :19:40. | |
committed to spending an extra eight on the NHS in this Parliament, an | :19:41. | :19:45. | |
extra 4 billion on education and on infrastructure as a whole, an extra | :19:46. | :19:50. | |
23 billion around the whole of the country, around the whole of the | :19:51. | :20:01. | |
United Kingdom. I hope and expect the people of Jewsbury can benefit | :20:02. | :20:09. | |
from that as well. 26% of my constituents voted Conservative. | :20:10. | :20:17. | |
Many did so because they were inspired by the vision for Brexit | :20:18. | :20:22. | |
that was laid out by the Reza May. Can the first secretary tell me, can | :20:23. | :20:31. | |
he reassure me this deal strengthens Theresa May's hand when it comes to | :20:32. | :20:38. | |
Brexit and will ensure we can deliver and control our borders and | :20:39. | :20:42. | |
laws as was promised at the general election? Order, the honourable | :20:43. | :20:59. | |
gentleman was in campaign mode. No name is required. Minister. I should | :21:00. | :21:13. | |
praise his constituency in Mammoth massively increasing his vote at the | :21:14. | :21:17. | |
recent election. I am happy to assure him that this deal does make | :21:18. | :21:22. | |
it clear that the vision of a Brexit that works for all parts of this | :21:23. | :21:26. | |
country is reinforce and strengthened by the agreement we are | :21:27. | :21:33. | |
discussing today. The Prime Minister and the DUP pride themselves on | :21:34. | :21:38. | |
being champions of the supposedly precious union. While the Prime | :21:39. | :21:42. | |
Minister is busily bribing the DUP to stitch up this threadbare | :21:43. | :21:47. | |
Administration, she continually neglects the people of Wales and | :21:48. | :21:52. | |
treats us as third class citizens in this so-called family of equals. The | :21:53. | :21:58. | |
Barnett Formula is not fit for purpose. The government's disregard | :21:59. | :22:03. | |
the day in seems to indicate they agree. And if this government can | :22:04. | :22:07. | |
hang out ?1 billion to Northern Ireland in terms of such austerity, | :22:08. | :22:12. | |
I would ask on behalf of the people of Wales, where is the ?1.7 billion | :22:13. | :22:19. | |
which is now so evidently are right? I am happy to remind the honourable | :22:20. | :22:23. | |
lady that under the new funding formula agreed last year, public | :22:24. | :22:29. | |
spending in Wales is roughly ?120 per head for every ?100 per head | :22:30. | :22:35. | |
spent in England, so the idea this government is in some way neglecting | :22:36. | :22:39. | |
the people of Wales, my own homeland, is wide of the mark. And | :22:40. | :22:43. | |
as for the Barnett Formula and on top of that, there are two city | :22:44. | :22:51. | |
deals of funding up to 540 million, which should release private sector | :22:52. | :22:56. | |
investment totalling 4.7 billion. So as she can see, the people of Wales | :22:57. | :22:59. | |
are being well served by this government. Be in no doubt this deal | :23:00. | :23:07. | |
has everything to do with the Conservative Party and absolutely | :23:08. | :23:11. | |
nothing to do with the country. If it had anything to do with the | :23:12. | :23:15. | |
country, the first secretary would come to the dispatch box and tell me | :23:16. | :23:18. | |
how much money Scotland will get as a result of this deal being signed? | :23:19. | :23:24. | |
Since this is a deal about Northern Ireland, Scotland will benefit in a | :23:25. | :23:29. | |
way it has done in the past. I will repeat the figures are repeated to | :23:30. | :23:32. | |
the spokesman for the Scottish National Party, but I wouldn't want | :23:33. | :23:39. | |
to embarrass him further. Scotland is doing well out of city deals, | :23:40. | :23:42. | |
doing well out of other things and it benefits from the Barnett Formula | :23:43. | :23:48. | |
as well. What Scotland's problems are, it has a government in Holyrood | :23:49. | :23:52. | |
that is not very good at running public services. He and I ought to | :23:53. | :23:59. | |
probably agree on that. There has been much reference to the national | :24:00. | :24:04. | |
interest this afternoon. I commend my right honourable friend with the | :24:05. | :24:08. | |
deal on the DUP in the national interest. However, would he agree | :24:09. | :24:12. | |
with me, given the crucial time in our history we have at the moment | :24:13. | :24:17. | |
and the challenges that lie ahead, now is the time for Labour to | :24:18. | :24:21. | |
actually work constructively with the government for the greater good | :24:22. | :24:26. | |
of the nation, rather than seek to score political points? I agree with | :24:27. | :24:33. | |
my honourable friend, it is a very wise point and it is never too late | :24:34. | :24:38. | |
to repent and of the opposition front bench which to adopt a more | :24:39. | :24:41. | |
constructive attitude to this, I would very much welcome that. Ian | :24:42. | :24:52. | |
Paisley. Does the first secretary view with utter despair, the | :24:53. | :24:56. | |
comments and inferences from the front bench in their statement today | :24:57. | :25:01. | |
that effectively, people will go back to war because we intend to | :25:02. | :25:06. | |
spend ?1.5 billion upon services that they so vitally need? A bit of | :25:07. | :25:12. | |
Russia now surely needs to be injected into this debate, this is a | :25:13. | :25:15. | |
good debate for Northern Ireland and a good day for the entire United | :25:16. | :25:22. | |
Kingdom. I agree the extra billion pounds in new many in this deal, | :25:23. | :25:27. | |
which will be, as I repeatedly said, spent in the interests of developing | :25:28. | :25:33. | |
the prosperity of all the people of Northern Ireland, is hugely welcome | :25:34. | :25:38. | |
in itself, it is hugely welcome in this crucial week for the devolution | :25:39. | :25:43. | |
process. I am genuinely surprised there is not more welcome on the | :25:44. | :25:49. | |
Labour benches for this. Does the first secretary agreed they are | :25:50. | :25:56. | |
should be a consultation on tourism rates on Northern Ireland because it | :25:57. | :26:00. | |
has a land butter with another country that has a lower VAT rate on | :26:01. | :26:06. | |
tourism and is at a competitively disadvantaged? My honourable friend | :26:07. | :26:11. | |
makes a good point. Of course, there are various things about Northern | :26:12. | :26:14. | |
Ireland that make it unique within the United Kingdom. The history is | :26:15. | :26:19. | |
one, the land border is of course another. That is why it has a | :26:20. | :26:24. | |
specific type of devolved government that we hope to see restored and | :26:25. | :26:29. | |
indeed, that's why we will be consulting on the various policy | :26:30. | :26:35. | |
areas as well. I am surprised by the Secretary of State's statement. He | :26:36. | :26:40. | |
left out the most important part of the agreement. He said the DUP would | :26:41. | :26:43. | |
support the government is on votes on the Queen's speech and so on, but | :26:44. | :26:48. | |
left out the only bit they cared about, which is they will support | :26:49. | :26:51. | |
the government on all motions of no confidence. That is what they have | :26:52. | :26:56. | |
bought with this money, the continuing support on all motions of | :26:57. | :27:00. | |
no confidence and that is because the only way you can bring a | :27:01. | :27:04. | |
government down under the fixed term that is on a motion of no | :27:05. | :27:09. | |
confidence, so the rest is irrelevant. Now that party has | :27:10. | :27:13. | |
become a party of government and not a party of opposition, they should | :27:14. | :27:16. | |
surrender the right to short the money? I am quite surprised... That | :27:17. | :27:32. | |
the honourable gentleman doesn't recognise that the addition of large | :27:33. | :27:37. | |
sums of money for promoting infrastructure, for promoting people | :27:38. | :27:44. | |
with mental health problems, helping disadvantaged communities aren't the | :27:45. | :27:46. | |
most important part of this agreement. That seems to me, the | :27:47. | :27:50. | |
most important part of this agreement because it will help | :27:51. | :27:54. | |
people in Northern Ireland, it will help disadvantaged people in | :27:55. | :27:58. | |
Northern Ireland. If the honourable gentleman doesn't accept that is | :27:59. | :28:01. | |
important, I feel he is losing some of his socialist firebrand | :28:02. | :28:07. | |
credentials, which he loves to parade. | :28:08. | :28:12. | |
We were told by Ruth Davidson no less that the 13 Scottish | :28:13. | :28:18. | |
Conservative MPs in this parliament would be operating at a separate | :28:19. | :28:23. | |
block, would put Scotland's case forcefully and make sure they | :28:24. | :28:27. | |
delivered for Scotland. Gandhi first secretary tell us not with reference | :28:28. | :28:31. | |
to the last parliament but with reference to this parliament what | :28:32. | :28:36. | |
additional targeted investment in the 13 Scottish Tories MPs have | :28:37. | :28:39. | |
secured for Scotland in return for the boarding this deal -- can the | :28:40. | :28:44. | |
First Minister tell us? I would refer to Honourable Lady to what | :28:45. | :28:50. | |
Ruth Davidson has said, that she is completely in support of this | :28:51. | :28:53. | |
agreement and she makes the point that just as Scotland benefit hugely | :28:54. | :28:59. | |
from the strength of economy that the government provides, but just as | :29:00. | :29:09. | |
we have treated Scotland fairly we should treat Northern Ireland and | :29:10. | :29:12. | |
Wales and other parts of England fairly as well and that is what this | :29:13. | :29:16. | |
government will continue to do. If she wants any new money I referred | :29:17. | :29:24. | |
her to the UK prosperity fund that we will be introducing after Brexit | :29:25. | :29:28. | |
from which I hope many communities in Scotland as well as other parts | :29:29. | :29:35. | |
of the UK will benefit. I recognise that abortion is a devolved matter | :29:36. | :29:40. | |
although I deplore the legislative framework in Northern Ireland that | :29:41. | :29:46. | |
has resulted from that. Women are posited and convicted in Northern | :29:47. | :29:49. | |
Ireland for seeking to procure abortions which forces them to come | :29:50. | :29:53. | |
to England for terminations. The question we are trying to ask it | :29:54. | :29:58. | |
will his government fund those terminations, those procedures in | :29:59. | :30:03. | |
English hospitals, because those Northern Ireland women, UK citizens, | :30:04. | :30:06. | |
cannot get them in their own country? As I have said in answer to | :30:07. | :30:11. | |
previous questions along these lines, I think this is a matter come | :30:12. | :30:17. | |
if we accept the logic of devolution, this is a matter to be | :30:18. | :30:20. | |
resolved by politics in Northern Ireland. Gavin Robinson. Can I | :30:21. | :30:30. | |
commend the first Secretary of State for the contents of the deal and as | :30:31. | :30:34. | |
a Belfast member of Parliament, my right honourable friend and | :30:35. | :30:39. | |
Honourable friend, both Belfast representatives, can I comment them | :30:40. | :30:43. | |
on the content of the city deal commitment that forms part of this | :30:44. | :30:47. | |
arrangement and the huge opportunities there are for the city | :30:48. | :30:50. | |
of Belfast and the wider region around us. Can I ask the first | :30:51. | :30:54. | |
secretary of state to engage in organising meetings as soon as | :30:55. | :30:58. | |
possible so we can get on and make sure we get the best benefits of | :30:59. | :31:02. | |
this city deal for our constituents in Belfast? I am very pleased as the | :31:03. | :31:08. | |
honourable gentleman will no that there are already talks in operation | :31:09. | :31:18. | |
about the Belfast city deal, I hope they can be excluded -- concluded as | :31:19. | :31:21. | |
fast as possible so Belfast can enjoy the benefits that other cities | :31:22. | :31:25. | |
including Glasgow and Cardiff already have because that would seem | :31:26. | :31:29. | |
apart from anything else to be a good symbol of the United Kingdom | :31:30. | :31:32. | |
government is acting in the interests of all parts of the United | :31:33. | :31:33. | |
Kingdom. , Simmonds. An extra ?1.5 billion was mentioned | :31:34. | :31:44. | |
for Northern Ireland and under the Barnett Formula that should mean an | :31:45. | :31:49. | |
extra ?2.5 billion for Wales. Does he agree that if the Welsh Secretary | :31:50. | :31:54. | |
refuses to find that money for Wales around the Cabinet table then once | :31:55. | :31:57. | |
again the Tories have betrayed the people of Wales? The new money of ?1 | :31:58. | :32:06. | |
billion in this deal is of course outside the Barnett Formula. As I | :32:07. | :32:10. | |
have already explained to the Honourable Lady, under the Barnett | :32:11. | :32:16. | |
Formula, every person in Wales receives approximately ?120 for | :32:17. | :32:20. | |
every ?100 of public spending for every person in England. I think it | :32:21. | :32:24. | |
is perfectly clear from the figures that Wales is not doing badly out of | :32:25. | :32:31. | |
this formula. During seven years of austerity which left north-east | :32:32. | :32:37. | |
working families on average ?1000 worse off per year, Tory governments | :32:38. | :32:43. | |
refused to invest in smart growth for good jobs. Now they find ?1.5 | :32:44. | :32:49. | |
billion to bunker at the DUP. Does he acknowledge that unless he | :32:50. | :32:53. | |
immediately invests an equivalent amount in the north-east plus an | :32:54. | :32:59. | |
airport passenger duty tax review, their reputation for economic | :33:00. | :33:04. | |
competence will be on a level with their reputation for Brexit | :33:05. | :33:06. | |
negotiations, ie the laughing stock of Europe. I would point out to the | :33:07. | :33:13. | |
Honourable Lady that over that period have indeed over her period | :33:14. | :33:17. | |
in the house, unemployment has consistently fallen in her area as | :33:18. | :33:23. | |
in others until it is at the lowest level since the mid-19 70s and I | :33:24. | :33:27. | |
would have thought she would welcome that more of her constituents are in | :33:28. | :33:31. | |
work than ever before. Diana Johnson. Why does not this | :33:32. | :33:39. | |
government do the right thing and deal with these women who have no | :33:40. | :33:43. | |
option but to travel from Northern Ireland to seek termination services | :33:44. | :33:47. | |
in England, Scotland and Wales, why doesn't the government do the right | :33:48. | :33:53. | |
thing and say that those women should not be charged for accessing | :33:54. | :33:57. | |
NHS services which, as taxpayers, they contribute to through their tax | :33:58. | :34:03. | |
in their wages? The Honourable Lady knows that the NHS is a devolved | :34:04. | :34:09. | |
function in the devolved administrations and therefore if we | :34:10. | :34:13. | |
accept the logic of devolution, this is clearly a political issue for the | :34:14. | :34:19. | |
people of Northern Ireland. Angela Smith. The house is disappointed | :34:20. | :34:23. | |
this afternoon that the first Secretary of State has been so vague | :34:24. | :34:27. | |
in explaining where exactly the money is coming from to pay for this | :34:28. | :34:33. | |
deal. It is therefore incumbent I think that the Secretary of State | :34:34. | :34:37. | |
should ask his Chancellor to come to this house to explain how big is | :34:38. | :34:43. | |
that the period of austerity we have suffered so long as so abruptly come | :34:44. | :34:47. | |
to an end and for him to explain them if we now have the proceeds of | :34:48. | :34:53. | |
growth, Alec is that areas such as Yorkshire, the North West, | :34:54. | :34:56. | |
Newcastle, Cumbria, are not also allowed to enjoy the proceeds of | :34:57. | :35:02. | |
that growth? All of the areas that the Honourable Lady talks about have | :35:03. | :35:07. | |
indeed benefited from an economic policy that has reduced unemployment | :35:08. | :35:10. | |
to its lowest level for more than 40 years and I'm happy to assure her | :35:11. | :35:17. | |
that the money in this deal is well within the confines of the fiscal | :35:18. | :35:23. | |
target we set ourselves so we are still able to hit those targets of | :35:24. | :35:32. | |
eliminating the deficit by 2025, and reducing the structural deficit to | :35:33. | :35:39. | |
no more than 2% by 2021. This does not affect our fiscal target at all. | :35:40. | :35:51. | |
Speaking as the new member for Sterling, where there is a new city | :35:52. | :35:55. | |
region deal in the offing, can my right honourable friend confirmed | :35:56. | :36:02. | |
for the benefit of members opposite that all city deals in Scotland and | :36:03. | :36:06. | |
Wales since 2014 have sat outside the Barnett Formula? Again, I | :36:07. | :36:13. | |
welcome my honourable friend to his place and he is exactly right. The | :36:14. | :36:20. | |
city deals and the city region deals have proved one of the most | :36:21. | :36:24. | |
successful innovations of this government, I look forward to the | :36:25. | :36:28. | |
people of his constituency benefiting from them as people in | :36:29. | :36:31. | |
constituencies across the United Kingdom already have. Ballast | :36:32. | :36:37. | |
the Secretary of State for Scotland is not in his place. No doubt of | :36:38. | :36:42. | |
polishing his brass neck so I will have to tell the secretary of state | :36:43. | :36:45. | |
at the city deals arranged in Scotland have come at a cost to | :36:46. | :36:49. | |
local government and the Scottish Government. The UK Government has | :36:50. | :36:54. | |
only put in ?678 million whereas the Scottish Government and local | :36:55. | :36:58. | |
government in Scotland has put in ?1.3 billion. Can I ask the minister | :36:59. | :37:03. | |
out much local authorities in Belfast and in Northern Ireland as a | :37:04. | :37:06. | |
whole are expected to put into the city deals? Only an SNP member could | :37:07. | :37:13. | |
I delete talk about only six in at ?78 million. Soon we will talking | :37:14. | :37:19. | |
about real money. The UK Government and the Scottish Government have | :37:20. | :37:27. | |
enjoyed responsibilities for talking -- have joint responsibilities to | :37:28. | :37:31. | |
help the economy in Scotland and the UK give it is already demonstrably | :37:32. | :37:36. | |
meeting those commitments and I hope the SNP led Scottish Government | :37:37. | :37:41. | |
continues to do so. I welcome this agreement. Would the first secretary | :37:42. | :37:46. | |
agree with me, the injustice, because that is what it is, of women | :37:47. | :37:52. | |
from Northern Ireland who seek termination is being charged to have | :37:53. | :37:56. | |
them on the mainland by the NHS is nothing at all to do with this | :37:57. | :38:02. | |
agreement. It is an entirely separate matter and to that end | :38:03. | :38:06. | |
would he agree with me that this is something the government should look | :38:07. | :38:11. | |
at because it is not fair that women seeking terminations from Northern | :38:12. | :38:13. | |
Ireland should be charged by the NHS here in this country. I can only say | :38:14. | :38:19. | |
to my honourable friend what I have said to Honourable members opposite, | :38:20. | :38:24. | |
that this is clearly an enormously sensitive political topic and the | :38:25. | :38:29. | |
best place for it to be resolved is within the democratic politics of | :38:30. | :38:35. | |
Northern Ireland itself. Tonight many of my constituents in Glasgow | :38:36. | :38:41. | |
East will be wondering why our local job centres will be shut when the | :38:42. | :38:44. | |
pavement of Northern Ireland are being made of gold so can I ask him | :38:45. | :38:49. | |
if the Secretary of State for Scotland was involved in Scotland or | :38:50. | :38:55. | |
once again frozen out? The Secretary of State for Scotland as all Cabinet | :38:56. | :39:00. | |
members plays a key role in all decisions made by the government and | :39:01. | :39:05. | |
the Honourable gentleman's characterisation of this deal is, as | :39:06. | :39:09. | |
I hope I have shown, completely wide of the mark. Border. Statement on | :39:10. | :39:16. | |
the Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government. | :39:17. | :39:23. | |
Secretary Sajid Javid. With permission Mr Speaker I would like | :39:24. | :39:26. | |
to update the house on the government's response to the | :39:27. | :39:29. | |
Grenfell Tower tragedy and our safety inspections of cladding and | :39:30. | :39:32. | |
other buildings. I know I speak for the whole house when I express my | :39:33. | :39:37. | |
heartfelt grief at the Grenfell Tower catastrophe. Almost a | :39:38. | :39:41. | |
fortnight has passed but the shock has not subsided. I have visited | :39:42. | :39:45. | |
Kensington and witnessed the terrible anguish of those who have | :39:46. | :39:50. | |
lost so much. In some cases people that have lost literally everything. | :39:51. | :39:56. | |
I am sure that, like me, many Honourable members have returned | :39:57. | :40:00. | |
from their constituencies today with the anger and fears of residents | :40:01. | :40:05. | |
still ringing in their ears. Anger that a tragedy on this scale was | :40:06. | :40:10. | |
ever allowed to happen in 21st-century Britain and fear that | :40:11. | :40:14. | |
it could happen again. It is this fear that I want to address first | :40:15. | :40:20. | |
today, Mr Speaker. I know the entire country is anxious to hear what we | :40:21. | :40:24. | |
are doing to reassure residents about fire safety in similar blocks | :40:25. | :40:30. | |
around the country. My department has contacted all councils and | :40:31. | :40:36. | |
housing associations asking them to identify all tall buildings, | :40:37. | :40:39. | |
residential buildings in England that they are responsible for which | :40:40. | :40:43. | |
have potentially similar cladding. We estimate this number to be around | :40:44. | :40:50. | |
600. On the 18th of June we read to them and ask them to start sending | :40:51. | :40:56. | |
samples and on the 21st of June our combustibility testing programme for | :40:57. | :41:00. | |
aluminium composite material started, run by the building | :41:01. | :41:05. | |
research Establishment. On the 22nd of June the government provided | :41:06. | :41:10. | |
advice to all these landlords about interim safety measures where a | :41:11. | :41:17. | |
building has ACM cladding that is unlikely to be complied with | :41:18. | :41:20. | |
building regulations and this advice was recommended by an independent | :41:21. | :41:24. | |
panel of expert and includes advice based on the emerging findings from | :41:25. | :41:28. | |
the Metropolitan Police investigation into Grenfell Tower. I | :41:29. | :41:33. | |
can inform the house that as of midday today the cladding from 75 | :41:34. | :41:38. | |
high-rise buildings in 26 local authority areas has failed the | :41:39. | :41:43. | |
combustibility test. I know members will rightly want to know if their | :41:44. | :41:47. | |
residents are effected and my department will publish regular | :41:48. | :41:51. | |
updates on our website. The combustibility test has three | :41:52. | :41:57. | |
categories wasted one 23 and it is judged that cladding material in | :41:58. | :42:02. | |
category two or three does not meet the requirements for limited | :42:03. | :42:05. | |
combustibility in building regulations. I can also confirmed to | :42:06. | :42:10. | |
the house that so far on that basis all samples of cladding tested have | :42:11. | :42:17. | |
failed. The fact that all samples so far have failed underlined the value | :42:18. | :42:22. | |
of the testing programme and the vital importance of submitting | :42:23. | :42:28. | |
samples urgently. The testing facility can analyse 100 samples per | :42:29. | :42:33. | |
day and runs around the clock. I am concerned about the speed at which | :42:34. | :42:39. | |
sampled are being submitted. I would urge all landlords to submit their | :42:40. | :42:44. | |
sampled immediately. In every case of failed tests, landlords and the | :42:45. | :42:48. | |
local Fire And Rescue Services are alerted and we are supporting and | :42:49. | :42:53. | |
monitoring all follow up action including by dedicated caseworkers | :42:54. | :42:57. | |
in my department. Landlord for all affected buildings have been | :42:58. | :43:02. | |
informed, and have informed or are informing tenants and are in | :43:03. | :43:06. | |
permitting the interim safety measures needed working with Fire | :43:07. | :43:10. | |
And Rescue Services. At this time the safety of people living in these | :43:11. | :43:14. | |
building is our paramount concern and I am determined that residents | :43:15. | :43:18. | |
have as much peace of mind as possible in such worrying times. | :43:19. | :43:23. | |
Landlord must keep residential buildings safe for tenants when they | :43:24. | :43:27. | |
cannot satisfy that obligation with appropriate mitigating measures we | :43:28. | :43:30. | |
expect alternative accommodation to be provided widely remedial work is | :43:31. | :43:34. | |
being carried out. That is exactly what happened in Camden and I would | :43:35. | :43:39. | |
like to pay tribute to the residents for their brave response to such a | :43:40. | :43:41. | |
distressing situation. It is obvious the problem of unsafe | :43:42. | :43:51. | |
cladding may not be a problem unique to social housing or residential | :43:52. | :43:58. | |
buildings. We have as of the landowners, to consider their own | :43:59. | :44:01. | |
buildings and we have made the testing facility freely available to | :44:02. | :44:06. | |
them. My department is also working with the government property unit to | :44:07. | :44:11. | |
oversee the checks on wider public sector buildings. Hospitals are well | :44:12. | :44:15. | |
each has a tailored fire safety plan, but nothing is more important | :44:16. | :44:20. | |
than the safety of patients and staff, so on a precautionary basis | :44:21. | :44:25. | |
we have asked all hospitals to conduct additional checks. The | :44:26. | :44:28. | |
government will continue to work closely with fire and rescue | :44:29. | :44:32. | |
colleagues based on local circumstances. The educational | :44:33. | :44:40. | |
skills funding agency is contacting all bodies responsible for safety in | :44:41. | :44:45. | |
schools requiring them to carry out further checks. We will have more | :44:46. | :44:51. | |
information this week. Across the wider government stake, 15 buildings | :44:52. | :44:54. | |
have been identified as requiring further investigation. While that | :44:55. | :45:03. | |
work continues it is vital we offer assistance to the victims of the | :45:04. | :45:08. | |
Grenfell Tower tragedy. 79 people have been confirmed dead or missing, | :45:09. | :45:12. | |
confirmed dead. Sadly, it is believed this number will increase. | :45:13. | :45:17. | |
Mr Speaker, as the Prime Minister told the House last week, the | :45:18. | :45:22. | |
initial response of the emergency services was exemplary but the | :45:23. | :45:25. | |
immediate support on the ground will simply not good enough. A remarkable | :45:26. | :45:30. | |
community effort sprung up overnight while official support was found | :45:31. | :45:35. | |
wanting. That failure was inexcusable and it is right and you | :45:36. | :45:44. | |
team and approach is in operation. We have activated a scheme and send | :45:45. | :45:46. | |
significant government resource, including a single point of access | :45:47. | :45:49. | |
into government provided by the Grenfell Tower victims unit. Staff | :45:50. | :45:53. | |
from six Government departments offering support at the Westway | :45:54. | :45:58. | |
assistance Centre and a bereavement Centre. The government has set aside | :45:59. | :46:04. | |
?5 million for the Grenfell Tower residence discretion of fund. Each | :46:05. | :46:13. | |
household affected is receiving 5500 funds to provide some immediate | :46:14. | :46:20. | |
assistance and so far 1100 households have received assistance. | :46:21. | :46:26. | |
They are one of many charities, favour of ionisation is an charity | :46:27. | :46:29. | |
that have provided invaluable assistance. I can announce today the | :46:30. | :46:37. | |
government will contribute ?1 million to support the efforts. It | :46:38. | :46:42. | |
will be new money, and it will be distributed to the foundation is | :46:43. | :46:46. | |
working together to respond to this tragic event. Our other priority has | :46:47. | :46:51. | |
been to find survivors are safe and secure place to live. The Prime | :46:52. | :46:56. | |
Minister made it clear a good quality, temporary home will be | :46:57. | :46:59. | |
offered to every family whose home was destroyed in the fire within | :47:00. | :47:03. | |
three weeks. Every family will be offered a permanent social home in | :47:04. | :47:08. | |
the local area. This work is underway and the first families | :47:09. | :47:10. | |
moved into their homes over the weekend. This week I announce the | :47:11. | :47:16. | |
government had secured 68 homes in a new development in Kensington to | :47:17. | :47:20. | |
rehouse local residents. We will do everything we can to support the | :47:21. | :47:24. | |
victims of the Grenfell fire, now and in the future and I will | :47:25. | :47:29. | |
regularly update the House on our progress. Mr Speaker, as the Prime | :47:30. | :47:33. | |
Minister said last week, the disaster at Grenfell Tower should | :47:34. | :47:39. | |
never have happened. There is an ongoing police investigation and | :47:40. | :47:42. | |
they will be an independent public enquiry to get to the truth of what | :47:43. | :47:44. | |
happened and who was responsible. Building regulations and the system | :47:45. | :48:09. | |
for ensuring fire safety in buildings have been developed over | :48:10. | :48:11. | |
many decades. And until the Grenfell fire, many experts would have | :48:12. | :48:13. | |
claimed this system had served well. But now we have witnessed a | :48:14. | :48:15. | |
catastrophic failure on a scale many thought impossible in 21st-century | :48:16. | :48:18. | |
Britain. It is clear failure must be understood and rectified without | :48:19. | :48:19. | |
delay and the government is determined to ensure it happens. As | :48:20. | :48:22. | |
an initial stab I can inform the House I am establishing an | :48:23. | :48:24. | |
independent expert advisory panel to advise the government on any steps | :48:25. | :48:27. | |
that should be taken on fire safety. Further details of that panel, | :48:28. | :48:31. | |
including its members will be released shortly. Mr Speaker, this | :48:32. | :48:36. | |
tragedy must never be forgotten, it should weigh heavily on the | :48:37. | :48:40. | |
consciousness of every person tasked with making decisions to ensure it | :48:41. | :48:44. | |
can never, ever happen again. Thank you. Can I thank the Secretary of | :48:45. | :48:53. | |
State for the prior copy of his statement on what he has told the | :48:54. | :48:58. | |
House. As the secretary of state or so, the shock from this truly | :48:59. | :49:02. | |
terrible tragic fire at Grenfell Tower has not subsided and nor has | :49:03. | :49:08. | |
the fear. The Prime Minister said in her statement last week, the | :49:09. | :49:11. | |
government's response both national and local in the early days was not | :49:12. | :49:17. | |
good enough. Nationally, it is still not good enough. Hundreds of | :49:18. | :49:21. | |
residents of Grenfell Tower and their relatives are still struggling | :49:22. | :49:26. | |
to keep their lives going in the face of this loss and hundreds of | :49:27. | :49:30. | |
thousands of residents in 4000 other tower blocks around the country are | :49:31. | :49:35. | |
still wondering if their homes are safe, worried about sleeping at | :49:36. | :49:38. | |
night and wanting to know what the government is doing to ensure they | :49:39. | :49:45. | |
are safe. Trust is so low in the local community around Grenfell | :49:46. | :49:50. | |
Tower, that I do welcome the local gold command leadership. I welcomed | :49:51. | :49:55. | |
the key workers in place to provide each household with support and | :49:56. | :50:01. | |
advice and the ?1 million paid so far in immediate assistance | :50:02. | :50:04. | |
payments. The Minister has made a promise to rehouse all Grenfell | :50:05. | :50:08. | |
Tower residence in the local area within three weeks. It is now nearly | :50:09. | :50:13. | |
a fortnight since the fire. How many people are covered by this pledge? | :50:14. | :50:20. | |
An two weeks on, is it correct 370 households are still in emergency | :50:21. | :50:24. | |
accommodation? How many have been found permanent, or even as the | :50:25. | :50:31. | |
Secretary of State says, good quality, temporary homes? And by | :50:32. | :50:33. | |
what they will all residents affected by the fire be in a | :50:34. | :50:38. | |
permanent new home? As they move, will the government guaranteed the | :50:39. | :50:42. | |
children will still be eligible for their same schools, where ever they | :50:43. | :50:49. | |
move to? More widely, ministers talk to loosely about the buildings | :50:50. | :50:54. | |
tested so far. The Prime Minister herself said last week, we can test | :50:55. | :50:58. | |
over 100 buildings date, will he make it clear to the House the | :50:59. | :51:04. | |
government's testing is only of cladding samples sent by councils | :51:05. | :51:08. | |
and housing associations? When the government says 600 tower blocks | :51:09. | :51:13. | |
with cladding needs safety checks, Hawaii, five days into the | :51:14. | :51:18. | |
programme, have only 75 tests been done so far? Why have all failed? | :51:19. | :51:25. | |
Will the Secretary of State confirm cladding is not just the whole | :51:26. | :51:29. | |
story. We know this from the coroner 's reports in 2013 to the Lakanal | :51:30. | :51:35. | |
House and the Shirley Towers fires. And we will find this in | :51:36. | :51:41. | |
investigation into the Grenfell fire. The fire that broke into | :51:42. | :51:45. | |
almost every floor and the building. We need from ministers, and much | :51:46. | :51:51. | |
more thorough fire review of fire safety in all of the tower blocks in | :51:52. | :51:55. | |
the country. A commitment to action to deal with any problems and are | :51:56. | :51:59. | |
guaranteed the government will help fund the costs. This applies also to | :52:00. | :52:04. | |
schools and hospitals, over which similar doubts may hang. The issue | :52:05. | :52:11. | |
of cost is crucial, Mr Speaker because some significant work and | :52:12. | :52:15. | |
alterations have to be done and have to be done quickly. Will the | :52:16. | :52:19. | |
Secretary of State make funding available upfront, not after the | :52:20. | :52:26. | |
event, for any council or housing association that needs it for | :52:27. | :52:30. | |
re-cladding or the installation of sprinklers and other fire prevention | :52:31. | :52:35. | |
measures, starting with the highest risk high-rise blocks and those with | :52:36. | :52:39. | |
sheltered accommodation? And will the Secretary of State lift the | :52:40. | :52:47. | |
central cap he places on local authority housing to enable them to | :52:48. | :52:56. | |
borrow to make sure there are -- their residents say. He is wrong to | :52:57. | :52:59. | |
say we have a buildings regulation and fire safety system which many | :53:00. | :53:09. | |
experts will claim have served as well. Many experts will say the | :53:10. | :53:13. | |
opposite is specially after the coroner report into the two previous | :53:14. | :53:22. | |
high-rise fires. There should be commonplace at triple fire safety | :53:23. | :53:26. | |
lock around buildings and works on them. First, the materials must be | :53:27. | :53:31. | |
fit for surface and meat safety specifications. Fire safety systems | :53:32. | :53:35. | |
must be in place and fire risk assessment done regularly and third, | :53:36. | :53:41. | |
building regulation and control must make sure design, construction and | :53:42. | :53:46. | |
any further works are fully safe. Instead, update the Secretary of | :53:47. | :53:51. | |
State has given us this afternoon suggests a collapse of the fire | :53:52. | :53:56. | |
safety control and check system. It is not working, it must change. | :53:57. | :54:00. | |
Finally, what is the Secretary of State doing to make sure the Prime | :54:01. | :54:04. | |
Minister's words when she said we simply haven't given enough | :54:05. | :54:09. | |
attention to social housing in this country, are not just empty words? | :54:10. | :54:13. | |
What is he doing to make sure this terrible tragedy at Grenfell Tower | :54:14. | :54:17. | |
means a profound change of course on housing in this country? Mr Speaker, | :54:18. | :54:27. | |
can I thank the right honourable gentleman for his comments, in | :54:28. | :54:30. | |
particular his support for gold command and the relief effort going | :54:31. | :54:35. | |
on on the ground in Kensington. He asked a number of specific | :54:36. | :54:40. | |
questions. First of all for the victims of the Grenfell Tower | :54:41. | :54:44. | |
tragedy. I can give him some updated numbers. The commitment we rightly | :54:45. | :54:48. | |
have made is that every single one of those families that have had | :54:49. | :54:52. | |
their homes homes destroyed, but Grenfell Tower and the neighbouring | :54:53. | :54:58. | |
Grenfell walk, together it is 144 units, they will all be guaranteed, | :54:59. | :55:03. | |
within three weeks, the offer of temporary housing in the local | :55:04. | :55:09. | |
neighbourhood. We have defined the local neighbourhood of Kensington | :55:10. | :55:12. | |
and Chelsea but also the neighbouring boroughs. So far there | :55:13. | :55:20. | |
are some 373 hotel rooms that are being occupied. That represents 153 | :55:21. | :55:27. | |
households from Grenfell Tower and Grenfell walk and 220 people | :55:28. | :55:35. | |
households from the cordoned area. As for the people from Grenfell | :55:36. | :55:41. | |
Tower, Grenfell walk, they have had their individual housing assessments | :55:42. | :55:45. | |
done and that work is being done by Westminster City Council with | :55:46. | :55:50. | |
support from other councils across London. The ones who have not had it | :55:51. | :55:55. | |
done, it is through choice, they said they are not ready and we are | :55:56. | :55:59. | |
respecting their wishes. Those who have been done, there have been 59 | :56:00. | :56:02. | |
offers already of temporary accommodation. One thing members | :56:03. | :56:08. | |
will understand, it is one thing we are finding is for some families, | :56:09. | :56:13. | |
they want to take their time to make a decision on the temporary | :56:14. | :56:18. | |
accommodation. We have had a number of instances where quite | :56:19. | :56:21. | |
understandably, the families have asked for something as close as | :56:22. | :56:25. | |
possible to where they lived, but when they have been shown the home | :56:26. | :56:28. | |
and they see the tower and what is left of it, they have changed their | :56:29. | :56:33. | |
minds and understandably, they have said we want some other options. So | :56:34. | :56:38. | |
we are working with them at their pace and our commitment is they will | :56:39. | :56:42. | |
be made offers within three weeks. But not necessarily the case they | :56:43. | :56:46. | |
will all be in temporary accommodation because we have to | :56:47. | :56:52. | |
respect their choice when they may change their mind. The other issue | :56:53. | :56:56. | |
is with some of the families, they doubted when we say the first | :56:57. | :57:05. | |
accommodation is temporary. I admit, one family on Friday in the Westway | :57:06. | :57:11. | |
Centre, they said to me, how do I know temporary is temporary? How do | :57:12. | :57:15. | |
I know you will just not leave me there and not by a better quality, | :57:16. | :57:19. | |
more suitable permanent accommodation? When I probed that | :57:20. | :57:23. | |
further, they told me they had been told when they first moved into | :57:24. | :57:29. | |
Grenfell Tower, that would be temporary accommodation. 17 years | :57:30. | :57:34. | |
later, they were still there. So I can understand that in that case I | :57:35. | :57:39. | |
had to make a personal commitment to that family. We want to work with | :57:40. | :57:43. | |
each family at their pace and get them what they deserve, what they | :57:44. | :57:45. | |
need, as best as we can. I can confirm the testing facility | :57:46. | :57:59. | |
that is operated as of the cladding material only and the reason why | :58:00. | :58:04. | |
that is so important is because the material itself, besides the whole | :58:05. | :58:09. | |
building structure, the material does have to be minimum combustible | :58:10. | :58:14. | |
standards and that is what the test tries to achieve. 75 tests of | :58:15. | :58:21. | |
buildings have taken place with samples and all 75 have failed. I do | :58:22. | :58:26. | |
agree with him that cladding is not the whole story, it goes much | :58:27. | :58:31. | |
further. An example is what is happening in Camden. The result of | :58:32. | :58:37. | |
the cladding test for Camden was the trigger for the further | :58:38. | :58:40. | |
investigations for the local Fire Service, the London Fire | :58:41. | :58:44. | |
Commissioners, but when the commissioners went into the tower | :58:45. | :58:49. | |
blocks in Camden, in their own words, they found multiple fire | :58:50. | :58:54. | |
safety failures. Failure is which should not have happened in tower | :58:55. | :58:59. | |
blocks of any type, certainly those tower blocks in Camden. For example, | :59:00. | :59:04. | |
there was problems with steel ways that were not accessible, preachers | :59:05. | :59:11. | |
of internal walls and most astonishingly, hundreds of fire door | :59:12. | :59:17. | |
is missing. The estimate by Camden Council is that they need 1000 fire | :59:18. | :59:21. | |
door is because they were missing from those five blocks. That had | :59:22. | :59:27. | |
nothing to do with the cladding. Something has gone drastically wrong | :59:28. | :59:30. | |
there but it is an example of again where these issues need to be looked | :59:31. | :59:35. | |
at very carefully as to why this is happening in this day and age in our | :59:36. | :59:39. | |
country. The honourable gentleman asked about cost. We have been very | :59:40. | :59:46. | |
clear on this. The local authorities and housing associations must not | :59:47. | :59:54. | |
hesitate at all and is on as they learn about any action they need to | :59:55. | :59:57. | |
take, any steps they need to take to ensure public safety, they must take | :59:58. | :00:00. | |
that action and if they find that they are not able to pay for that | :00:01. | :00:03. | |
themselves, then of course we will work with them and put financial | :00:04. | :00:09. | |
support packages in place with that individual organisation. Finally, | :00:10. | :00:13. | |
there were two further questions about acting now and what more we | :00:14. | :00:19. | |
can do now. I am sure he understands there are some things we can do now | :00:20. | :00:23. | |
with his immediate situation but there are longer term lessons to | :00:24. | :00:27. | |
learn as well. Some will come from the public enquiry but I do not | :00:28. | :00:31. | |
think we can wait for the final results. It is up to the judge but | :00:32. | :00:35. | |
there will be an interim report. I think there is work that can be done | :00:36. | :00:38. | |
much sooner than that and that is one of the reasons why I am fitting | :00:39. | :00:44. | |
that expert panel in place, a panel that I would be happy for the Right | :00:45. | :00:49. | |
honourable gentleman to meet as well. Lastly, on his final point | :00:50. | :00:53. | |
about social housing. I do agree there are big lessons to learn here | :00:54. | :00:58. | |
about social housing, the quality and quantity. There has been massive | :00:59. | :01:05. | |
investment in social housing. 330,000 new units created and more | :01:06. | :01:10. | |
social Council housing built in the last six years than 13 years before | :01:11. | :01:15. | |
that put together. There is a lot more that we can do but it is much | :01:16. | :01:18. | |
better if we work together. Thank you. There will be no more tragic | :01:19. | :01:27. | |
matter than that is before us now. I want every member who wishes to | :01:28. | :01:31. | |
contribute to the exchanges to have the opportunity to do so. It might | :01:32. | :01:36. | |
help the House if I point out that in the debate to come, there are 52 | :01:37. | :01:46. | |
contributors. As a result, the premium from back and function -- | :01:47. | :01:55. | |
front bench alike. Mr Ian Duncan Smith. Mr Speaker, can I commend my | :01:56. | :02:01. | |
right honourable friend for the action he has taken. The urgency | :02:02. | :02:05. | |
with which he is seeing this process and how he wants to drive it | :02:06. | :02:09. | |
through. Returning to the front bench of the opposition, there is | :02:10. | :02:13. | |
one issue I think we need to revisit as fast as we can. As we go forward, | :02:14. | :02:19. | |
looking at the cladding and all the other issues, like the windows which | :02:20. | :02:22. | |
exploded into flames because they are the wrong type of class, which | :02:23. | :02:27. | |
are often overlooked by things like fire doors, I returned to my main | :02:28. | :02:30. | |
concern. We should be asking ourselves the question of whether it | :02:31. | :02:37. | |
is necessary any longer and many of these cases to have these older | :02:38. | :02:40. | |
tower blocks as they stand and whether we would not be better | :02:41. | :02:45. | |
digging is very strong position to bring some of these tower blocks | :02:46. | :02:49. | |
down and make more family friendly low rise. Will he comment on that | :02:50. | :02:56. | |
now's I thank my right honourable friend from his remarks and he makes | :02:57. | :03:02. | |
a very good point. Our most urgent work is to make these tower blocks | :03:03. | :03:09. | |
safe and ensure they are safe but also there are longer term | :03:10. | :03:12. | |
consequences and that includes looking at the approach to social | :03:13. | :03:15. | |
housing and the quality of social housing. Allison viewers. Thank you, | :03:16. | :03:23. | |
Mr Speaker. I would like to extend my sympathies to those who have been | :03:24. | :03:28. | |
affected by the Grenfell Tower tragedy and those who are facing | :03:29. | :03:31. | |
worry as the wonder about the accommodation. I am very glad to see | :03:32. | :03:36. | |
the gathering funds to local charities, that is very welcome. I | :03:37. | :03:42. | |
would like to ask more questions. Will there be funding for mitigating | :03:43. | :03:46. | |
measures for certain accommodation for all local authorities who are | :03:47. | :03:52. | |
facing measures for this radio work, which may take a significant time | :03:53. | :03:56. | |
and residents will need to be housed and compensated? Will be additional | :03:57. | :04:00. | |
funding for the Fire Service who were not able to carry out the fire | :04:01. | :04:07. | |
safety works? Will the tenancy agreements for those being moved | :04:08. | :04:10. | |
into temporary accommodation be equivalent or better than the | :04:11. | :04:13. | |
Tennessee agreements that they have an Grenfell Tower? It was clear that | :04:14. | :04:21. | |
the official response was not good enough and I make these points in | :04:22. | :04:25. | |
the spirit of helpfulness and not any party critical bases. In | :04:26. | :04:31. | |
Scotland, in Glasgow, we have a well developed resilient strategy | :04:32. | :04:36. | |
including all local authority and orgies. Would you look to Glasgow | :04:37. | :04:44. | |
and Scotland of the way it is implemented? -- local authority | :04:45. | :04:52. | |
bodies. Is it possible to have Scottish representation on the | :04:53. | :04:56. | |
advisory panel that he mentions? To be able to share some of that | :04:57. | :05:00. | |
experience and difference of approach. The Scottish Government | :05:01. | :05:05. | |
has already established a working group on building fire safety. Will | :05:06. | :05:09. | |
there be a means of reporting on that to the fire officer? Can I | :05:10. | :05:15. | |
thank the honourable lady for all of her important point in this | :05:16. | :05:19. | |
question? Just touching on this funding, we have made clear that for | :05:20. | :05:26. | |
the housing associations that they must do all the necessary work and | :05:27. | :05:29. | |
we will work with everyone of them to make sure they have the funding | :05:30. | :05:33. | |
they need if that is something that is preventing them from doing work. | :05:34. | :05:41. | |
On the tenancy agreements, for the Grenfell Tower residents, it BBC | :05:42. | :05:47. | |
turns or better terms, including what ever housing we do receive, the | :05:48. | :05:53. | |
temporary or permanent housing. In terms of Scotland, that was a very | :05:54. | :06:00. | |
good point. Scotland has already identified 500 high rise buildings | :06:01. | :06:04. | |
of the cladding but none of them have this type of cladding. I think | :06:05. | :06:09. | |
it deserves a closer look at Scottish building regulations and as | :06:10. | :06:12. | |
we do it wider review, we should take that into account. The most | :06:13. | :06:18. | |
worrying thing in the statement from my point of view was where he said | :06:19. | :06:24. | |
all of the examples of cladding so far had not met the requirements and | :06:25. | :06:27. | |
the building regulations that had been fitted to buildings. Can I urge | :06:28. | :06:32. | |
him to make that the first thing that he answers -- acts we panel to | :06:33. | :06:41. | |
look at. It feels to me we have widespread building regulations, | :06:42. | :06:44. | |
that is the most urgent thing we need to deal with to prevent another | :06:45. | :06:49. | |
tragedy somewhere in the country. I very much agree that is a very | :06:50. | :06:55. | |
urgent question that has already been looked at once we have this | :06:56. | :07:00. | |
panel established, from tomorrow morning, that is one of the first | :07:01. | :07:10. | |
things they will be tasked with. I just want to say I have heard some | :07:11. | :07:15. | |
very ill informed comments about tower blocks. As the only | :07:16. | :07:20. | |
architecture expert in the House, I am happy to give you a lecture of | :07:21. | :07:23. | |
safety of Wellman teamed tower blocks. They are safer than | :07:24. | :07:31. | |
Victorian terraces, for example. That is for another day. I heard | :07:32. | :07:36. | |
this morning that people who have concerns about the immigration | :07:37. | :07:40. | |
status or lack of documentation are still not coming forward and | :07:41. | :07:44. | |
sleeping rough. Some have been told that they may not be eligible for | :07:45. | :07:49. | |
housing and may be reported to the Home Office. Will be Secretary of | :07:50. | :07:54. | |
State please make a firm commitment now and June indicate that widely | :07:55. | :07:59. | |
that this immigration status will not be a barrier to services or | :08:00. | :08:06. | |
reported to the Home Office and that traumatised people have no fear in | :08:07. | :08:13. | |
coming forward? Can I thank the honourable lady for the reassurance | :08:14. | :08:19. | |
that she has been providing to her constituents. Many of them looking | :08:20. | :08:24. | |
for support across the Government but she has been a very reassuring | :08:25. | :08:29. | |
figure locally and I thank her for that. On her question on | :08:30. | :08:33. | |
immigration, I can give her that assurance. We have made it clear | :08:34. | :08:38. | |
that anyone coming forward, any information they provide, it will | :08:39. | :08:44. | |
not be used for any immigration check. It has been put in a letter | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
that has been given to every family that has been affected. If the | :08:49. | :08:51. | |
honourable lady has further suggestions of how we get that | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
message out, I would be happy to listen. Can I welcome the testing | :08:56. | :09:03. | |
for the cladding. It is shocking to hear that so many tower blocks are | :09:04. | :09:08. | |
unsafe. We have heard about the situation in Camden where tower | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
blocks are being evacuated. Can you advise whether other countries to | :09:13. | :09:20. | |
manage evacuations of tower blocks? Thankfully, there have been no other | :09:21. | :09:24. | |
councils that have come forward, so far, with the need to have an | :09:25. | :09:33. | |
evacuation and hopefully, I do want to prejudge them, but hopefully what | :09:34. | :09:36. | |
has happened in Camden will be a rare occurrence. In the case of | :09:37. | :09:44. | |
Camden, the cladding was a trigger for further fire safety inspections. | :09:45. | :09:48. | |
It was the massive failure of those fire safety inspections that caused | :09:49. | :09:57. | |
the evacuation. I thank the Secretary of State for commending | :09:58. | :10:00. | |
the bravery of the 3000 residents who were evacuated from their homes | :10:01. | :10:09. | |
on Friday. Residents have also had the closure of the fire station, | :10:10. | :10:14. | |
which was 500 metres away from the tower blocks in question. Will he | :10:15. | :10:17. | |
give his support to reopening the fire station which was closed by the | :10:18. | :10:24. | |
former Mayor of London in 2014, so that my residents can feel safe in | :10:25. | :10:31. | |
their homes again? I thank the honourable lady for her question. | :10:32. | :10:36. | |
Local fire rescue services must have the resources that the need at but | :10:37. | :10:41. | |
in the assessment that was done with Camden in recent days, there is | :10:42. | :10:46. | |
nothing to suggest that was the issue that might have led to an | :10:47. | :10:50. | |
evacuation. She is rightly concerned about her constituents. I am sure | :10:51. | :10:55. | |
she will be hugely concerned what has come out of the fire safety | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
report in Camden. The issue around the fire doors particularly to stop | :11:00. | :11:04. | |
I am focusing my efforts on making sure Camden can get all that | :11:05. | :11:08. | |
remedial work done and significant help from Government to make sure | :11:09. | :11:12. | |
those fire doors are in place as soon as possible. Regrettably, it | :11:13. | :11:18. | |
would appear that unsafe cladding is widespread. Labour councils, | :11:19. | :11:26. | |
Conservative councils. It was put up during labour administrations and | :11:27. | :11:28. | |
Conservative administrations. This is sheer my regret that there is | :11:29. | :11:33. | |
party crystallisation of this tragedy and hope we can all work | :11:34. | :11:37. | |
together to make sure this never happens again? I agree very much | :11:38. | :11:42. | |
with my right honourable friend. As I said in my statement, clearly some | :11:43. | :11:48. | |
things have gone drastically wrong. It has happened over a number of | :11:49. | :11:52. | |
decades and I think if we are going to put that right, it is something | :11:53. | :11:58. | |
we can all do if we work together. Could the Secretary of State and for | :11:59. | :12:05. | |
us whether he has received any samples from Coventry of samples to | :12:06. | :12:09. | |
evaluate and has he taken it up with his right honourable friend the | :12:10. | :12:15. | |
Chancellor the question of the contingency fund and money available | :12:16. | :12:20. | |
from that, which is usually very large and established for this sort | :12:21. | :12:21. | |
of disaster? If I may attend to the question on | :12:22. | :12:32. | |
Coventry. There are 26 local authority areas that have done tests | :12:33. | :12:38. | |
now that our public. But not all those local authority areas have | :12:39. | :12:41. | |
told the residents of their respective towers, but Coventry is | :12:42. | :12:45. | |
not on the list of the 16 that have gone public. But what I can reassure | :12:46. | :12:50. | |
the right honourable gentleman, if Coventry where one of those, they | :12:51. | :12:54. | |
would be contacting individually, their respective local MPs. With | :12:55. | :12:58. | |
respect to funding, he will also know local authorities also have | :12:59. | :13:04. | |
reserves that are therefore unforeseen circumstances and some | :13:05. | :13:06. | |
local authorities most certainly want to use their reserves. Can I | :13:07. | :13:12. | |
commend my right honourable friend for this extensive statement to the | :13:13. | :13:15. | |
House and our thoughts are still with those who have been affected. I | :13:16. | :13:21. | |
welcome the systemic testing of cladding material. Can the Minister | :13:22. | :13:27. | |
tell the House what the legal ramifications would be if landlords | :13:28. | :13:30. | |
failed to make use of that service or ensured their property is safe? | :13:31. | :13:35. | |
Does he agree with me, local authorities should be reviewing the | :13:36. | :13:39. | |
use of high-rise accommodation for disabled and very elderly people? Mr | :13:40. | :13:46. | |
Speaker, first let me start with the final point my right honourable | :13:47. | :13:50. | |
friend made about the disabled and very elderly people. Of course, that | :13:51. | :13:56. | |
would require special circumstances in the case of evacuation in case of | :13:57. | :14:01. | |
fire and that should be taken into account where the local Fire Service | :14:02. | :14:04. | |
is looking at those buildings and carrying out a further inspection. | :14:05. | :14:11. | |
With respect to the legal ramifications if a landlord does not | :14:12. | :14:15. | |
submit something for testing when there is good reason to do so, it is | :14:16. | :14:21. | |
the legal responsibility of every landlord in the country, whether it | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
is social property or private property to make sure the property | :14:26. | :14:28. | |
is safe for its tenants and there will certainly be action. Whilst I | :14:29. | :14:34. | |
welcome the announcement of the independent expert advisory panel, | :14:35. | :14:38. | |
the government has historically had the government advisory committee | :14:39. | :14:42. | |
which hasn't met the five years which has been doing the job which | :14:43. | :14:48. | |
sounds as though the Independent advisory panel will do. Can he | :14:49. | :14:54. | |
explain what the difference is? I thank the honourable gentleman for | :14:55. | :14:57. | |
the work he has done over the years to promote fire safety. I know he | :14:58. | :15:02. | |
has an adjournment debates with my honourable friend this evening as | :15:03. | :15:07. | |
well. But this particular panel, I think in light of the tragedy it | :15:08. | :15:12. | |
will have a broader remit and its membership might be broader in | :15:13. | :15:14. | |
taking on some international experience. The horror of Grenfell | :15:15. | :15:22. | |
Tower will remain with the victims, their family and friends for | :15:23. | :15:26. | |
generations. Can my right honourable friend expands on the Dick Tim's | :15:27. | :15:30. | |
unit and the work it is doing and for the children who have lost a | :15:31. | :15:37. | |
parent or a English-speaking member of their family. The Dick Tim's unit | :15:38. | :15:44. | |
has a number of officials from six Government departments at the moment | :15:45. | :15:53. | |
and the idea is, if they have an issue central government can help | :15:54. | :15:58. | |
with, it might be tax, benefits, immigration issue, they will only | :15:59. | :16:01. | |
have to deal with one individual, making it much easier for them. I am | :16:02. | :16:06. | |
grateful for his statement and share his grief, anxiety and shop at this | :16:07. | :16:13. | |
catastrophe. When tower blocks are found to fail fire safety tests and | :16:14. | :16:18. | |
when mitigating measures cannot be done to make those building safe, | :16:19. | :16:22. | |
what the Minister has said today to the House doesn't reassure many | :16:23. | :16:27. | |
members, because local authorities and housing associations will need | :16:28. | :16:30. | |
funding support to help them provide you housing for residents affected. | :16:31. | :16:35. | |
What considerations have been given to declare this a civil emergency so | :16:36. | :16:41. | |
funds from central government can be provided down to housing | :16:42. | :16:44. | |
associations and local authorities trying to rehouse local residents? | :16:45. | :16:51. | |
First of all I can reassure the right honourable gentleman, funding | :16:52. | :16:55. | |
already is being provided from central government in certain | :16:56. | :16:58. | |
circumstances. What we have made clear is that if there is an issue, | :16:59. | :17:03. | |
if those properties, the remedial work cannot be immediately done and | :17:04. | :17:07. | |
the property cannot be said, as it was in the case of Camden, the local | :17:08. | :17:12. | |
authority should take action immediately regardless of the cost, | :17:13. | :17:19. | |
making those residents safe and in the circumstances the local | :17:20. | :17:21. | |
authority need support and funding, we will provide them with that | :17:22. | :17:26. | |
support. May I thank him for his statement today. I'm sure all | :17:27. | :17:29. | |
members on all sides are united in their determination such horrific | :17:30. | :17:35. | |
events never happen again. I am encouraged by the statement of a | :17:36. | :17:40. | |
full public enquiry, but can the Secretary of State give a commitment | :17:41. | :17:43. | |
it will not be allowed to drag and we have the enquiry as soon as | :17:44. | :17:46. | |
possible. We need those answers and we need them quickly. He refers to | :17:47. | :17:52. | |
the public enquiry announced by the Prime Minister last week which will | :17:53. | :17:56. | |
be led by a judge and independent. We shouldn't prejudge the terms, | :17:57. | :18:01. | |
they will be set by the judge. As well as the timing issue of that, | :18:02. | :18:06. | |
what is also important is making sure the victims are properly | :18:07. | :18:08. | |
represented and that is something else the Prime Minister has also | :18:09. | :18:15. | |
promised. The Secretary of State referred to cladding, but did not | :18:16. | :18:21. | |
refer to installation. He will know the police and Fire Service have | :18:22. | :18:24. | |
raised concerns about the way in which the installation spread the | :18:25. | :18:30. | |
fire in Grenfell Tower. Can he say what has been done about | :18:31. | :18:34. | |
installation, whether it is time to require testing of insulation | :18:35. | :18:39. | |
materials as well, and also some transparency about what insulation | :18:40. | :18:43. | |
materials were used in Grenfell Tower and whether those materials | :18:44. | :18:47. | |
should now be banned in other tower blocks and other properties as well? | :18:48. | :18:55. | |
The right honourable lady is right to raise this issue. The police | :18:56. | :18:59. | |
report rightly focused on that. I will not say any more on Grenfell | :19:00. | :19:04. | |
Tower, it is important I don't get involved in that, but more broadly | :19:05. | :19:12. | |
it is possible could showed that the cladding itself is of what's called | :19:13. | :19:16. | |
category one, soak the correct type of cladding, but the insulation may | :19:17. | :19:20. | |
be the wrong type of insulation. So what we have already done working | :19:21. | :19:27. | |
with the LGA, since the police report, we have updated the price | :19:28. | :19:30. | |
that's going to local councils and looking out what the best way to | :19:31. | :19:34. | |
respond to that and make sure the insulation is also being locked up | :19:35. | :19:39. | |
properly. Does he share my disappointment this issue tragically | :19:40. | :19:43. | |
has been Pulitzer ties so heavily by senior members of the party | :19:44. | :19:48. | |
opposite. How long does he think the public enquiry will take to come to | :19:49. | :19:53. | |
conclusions and does he have any idea if this cladding has been used | :19:54. | :19:57. | |
in any other countries? What the public want to see and what they are | :19:58. | :20:01. | |
seeing today in this chamber, everyone is working together. In | :20:02. | :20:05. | |
terms of timing of the public enquiry, that will be up to the | :20:06. | :20:09. | |
judge. But it is hoped the judge might see fit to have an interim | :20:10. | :20:13. | |
report, something we can act on much more quickly. I want to press the | :20:14. | :20:19. | |
Secretary of State further on the issue of funding to local | :20:20. | :20:23. | |
authorities. Most of them do not have vast reserves, most are | :20:24. | :20:27. | |
struggling at 40% funding cuts and there isn't sufficient clarity as to | :20:28. | :20:31. | |
where and when the government will step forward with funding. We need | :20:32. | :20:36. | |
not only for those places where we need sprinklers and get rid of the | :20:37. | :20:39. | |
cladding, but on the issue of rehousing. Will he say exactly what | :20:40. | :20:46. | |
the national government will fund? I can only repeat what I said earlier, | :20:47. | :20:51. | |
which is whether it is removing of cladding or taking other necessary | :20:52. | :20:57. | |
action to improve the fire safety building or rehousing costs, then | :20:58. | :20:59. | |
local authorities should get on with those. They should, just as Camden, | :21:00. | :21:05. | |
the first action was to think about how to fund this, they got on with | :21:06. | :21:09. | |
the action, made those tenants safe and then the government will work | :21:10. | :21:12. | |
with those local authorities where they cannot afford it, to provide | :21:13. | :21:19. | |
necessary support. As someone who has previously worked for shelter, | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
can I thank that organisation and the others that are working so hard | :21:24. | :21:27. | |
in that constituency to do what they can for the victims of the Grenfell | :21:28. | :21:32. | |
Tower fire. What is the government's timeline to rehouse all the | :21:33. | :21:37. | |
displaced Grenfell survivors from temporary accommodation into | :21:38. | :21:40. | |
long-term, stable homes in their local community? We welcome the | :21:41. | :21:46. | |
honourable lady to the House and we look forward to bringing the | :21:47. | :21:49. | |
benefits of her experience in that and other sectors to our | :21:50. | :21:54. | |
deliberations. Secretary of State. In terms of the actual time, the | :21:55. | :22:00. | |
temporary accommodation, the offer within three weeks then in terms of | :22:01. | :22:04. | |
permanent accommodation, we have found a number of units and some | :22:05. | :22:08. | |
have begun to look at permanent units. Hopefully we can do that | :22:09. | :22:12. | |
within months and move very quickly on that, as long as that is what the | :22:13. | :22:18. | |
tenants want. Can I also welcome her experience and tell her she may | :22:19. | :22:22. | |
already be aware, shelter is helping tremendously on the ground in | :22:23. | :22:26. | |
Kensington and they are helping with a lot of the tenants and their | :22:27. | :22:30. | |
concerns over whether temporary really means temporary and I hugely | :22:31. | :22:39. | |
welcome that. This issue of funding, the Secretary of State the | :22:40. | :22:41. | |
government will work with local authorities and housing associations | :22:42. | :22:44. | |
to provide funding if they cannot afford to do the work. Could the | :22:45. | :22:50. | |
Secretary of State explain precisely what it means? What criteria he will | :22:51. | :22:55. | |
use? Is it fundamentally wrong to expect other social housing tenants | :22:56. | :22:59. | |
to pay for this work, either through increased rent or less maintenance | :23:00. | :23:03. | |
on their properties? Will the government bring forward a | :23:04. | :23:07. | |
comprehensive finance package which provides merely not increase | :23:08. | :23:10. | |
borrowing for organisations but the actual cash to pay for this work? Mr | :23:11. | :23:15. | |
Speaker, the honourable gentleman will know, it is a legal requirement | :23:16. | :23:21. | |
for local authority housing associations already, as we speak, | :23:22. | :23:26. | |
to make sure the homes they offer to tenants are fit for habitation. They | :23:27. | :23:31. | |
should be meeting these requirements already. I gave the example of | :23:32. | :23:35. | |
Camden early, it should already have been meeting those requirements. | :23:36. | :23:40. | |
Despite that, if they cannot do that from the current resources, they | :23:41. | :23:45. | |
should get on with the job, meet those requirements and we will | :23:46. | :23:48. | |
support them with whatever they need. It is good to be back. Mr | :23:49. | :23:55. | |
Speaker, and Jones, the assembly member for the Vale of Clywd has | :23:56. | :24:00. | |
introduced her own legislation to introduce sprinklers in all | :24:01. | :24:04. | |
new-build houses in Wales. I am a firm believer that out of badness | :24:05. | :24:10. | |
comes good. What happened in Grenfell Tower was bad, it was a | :24:11. | :24:16. | |
tragedy. Can we use this disaster to open a complete review of fire | :24:17. | :24:19. | |
safety across the UK. Not just on the issue of cladding, but | :24:20. | :24:24. | |
insulation, containment, emergency lighting and especially sprinkler | :24:25. | :24:30. | |
systems. Not just in tower blocks, but other vulnerable housing, such | :24:31. | :24:37. | |
as houses of multiple occupation. Mr Speaker, as I said in my statement, | :24:38. | :24:41. | |
there will be a need for a complete review across the UK. Approximately | :24:42. | :24:48. | |
one in three of all properties in Westminster towers, and I am sure | :24:49. | :24:53. | |
this goes for others, are leaseholders. Can the secretary of | :24:54. | :24:57. | |
state tell us if he has the legal power to require leaseholders to | :24:58. | :25:02. | |
install fire doors and other internal fire safety? If not, what | :25:03. | :25:05. | |
is he going to do about it and who you is going to pay? She raises a | :25:06. | :25:10. | |
very important point. It is often the case, there are many | :25:11. | :25:15. | |
leaseholders who have removed fire doors and clearly that's not | :25:16. | :25:17. | |
acceptable. I believe all the legal powers are there and it is certainly | :25:18. | :25:22. | |
one of the lessons from this tragedy and what we have seen a Camden so | :25:23. | :25:27. | |
far, to take a much greater interest in enforcement. Mr Speaker, the | :25:28. | :25:34. | |
secretary of state in his statement said landlords must keep residential | :25:35. | :25:37. | |
building safe for their tenants. Experts agree sprinklers save lives | :25:38. | :25:43. | |
and sympathetic words are not good enough. It would cost less to fit | :25:44. | :25:50. | |
sprinklers than the deal the government has stitched together | :25:51. | :25:53. | |
with the DUP. What is more important, clinging to power or | :25:54. | :26:01. | |
preventing fire deaths? Mr Speaker, where the local Fire and Rescue | :26:02. | :26:05. | |
Service recommend sprinklers, they should be installed. Was his | :26:06. | :26:12. | |
department is aware of the fire in the crust tower in Melbourne in | :26:13. | :26:18. | |
2014? It had similar cladding to the building at Grenfell Tower and what | :26:19. | :26:22. | |
lessons were learned by the DC LG from fire and shouldn't that have | :26:23. | :26:26. | |
prompted a review of cladding on tower blocks in this country? I | :26:27. | :26:31. | |
think the important point the honourable gentleman highlights is | :26:32. | :26:37. | |
we can benefit from international experience, whether it is coming | :26:38. | :26:40. | |
from Australia, Europe or elsewhere and it is one of the things we | :26:41. | :26:44. | |
should be looking at as we learn the lessons. | :26:45. | :26:52. | |
I would like him to explain now why she will not simply use this | :26:53. | :27:00. | |
opportunity to pay for the sprinkler systems that were recommended by the | :27:01. | :27:04. | |
coroner after the Lakanal House fire. It is important we are clear | :27:05. | :27:12. | |
on this. The coroner in her report in 2013, she did not say that all | :27:13. | :27:19. | |
high-rise buildings should all have sprinklers, she said they should be | :27:20. | :27:25. | |
considered where appropriate. To follow up on my honourable friend | :27:26. | :27:33. | |
from Kensington's point about immigration status. Having worked | :27:34. | :27:37. | |
with people with fragile immigration status who have suffered a trauma, | :27:38. | :27:42. | |
until people have a stable immigration status, they will never | :27:43. | :27:46. | |
feel safe to speak out. The Secretary of State asking what to | :27:47. | :27:49. | |
do, we could get those people a message today that we will | :27:50. | :27:53. | |
fast-track them for indefinite leave to remain with access to public | :27:54. | :27:58. | |
funds in order that they can go through the enquiry without fear or | :27:59. | :28:05. | |
favour. Will he agree to that? I think it is a very important point | :28:06. | :28:11. | |
that those people, those victims, feel they have challenges with the | :28:12. | :28:18. | |
immigration status and we can show sensitivity and treat them more | :28:19. | :28:24. | |
favourably. Public enquiries are slow instruments for a change, as we | :28:25. | :28:29. | |
found with the Chilcott report and the double enquiry that took nearly | :28:30. | :28:34. | |
a decade. Can he give and assurance that we will not wait for the remedy | :28:35. | :28:40. | |
until the report, but as soon as remedies are obvious and required, | :28:41. | :28:44. | |
we will act instantly because the danger is so high and the anxieties | :28:45. | :28:54. | |
are so widespread? Yes, I agree. These Secretary of State is right | :28:55. | :28:59. | |
that lessons need to be learned from this tragedy. Why were Fire Service | :29:00. | :29:07. | |
checks cut back by 25% since 2010? In the here and now, Georgian accent | :29:08. | :29:17. | |
-- argent is needed. Rightly anxious tenants want action. Birmingham City | :29:18. | :29:22. | |
Council have pledged they will retrofit sprinklers to all of those | :29:23. | :29:27. | |
blocks. That will cost ?31 million. The City Council is suffering the | :29:28. | :29:32. | |
biggest cuts in local history and therefore urgently needs Government | :29:33. | :29:37. | |
support. Can I ask for a straight answer, yes or no, will be Secretary | :29:38. | :29:42. | |
of State guaranteed that Birmingham City Council can go ahead and carry | :29:43. | :29:46. | |
out that work and that they will be refunded in full? Birmingham City | :29:47. | :29:54. | |
Council, like every council, has a legal responsibility when it comes | :29:55. | :29:58. | |
to its social tenants and it should do what ever it believes is | :29:59. | :30:03. | |
necessary and as I have said before, for necessary works, if there is an | :30:04. | :30:06. | |
issue with funding, we will provide the support. Can I praise the swift | :30:07. | :30:14. | |
response of the Welsh Government and Cardiff Council in responding to | :30:15. | :30:20. | |
concerns. Over 14,000 apartment units in the constituency. We'll be | :30:21. | :30:26. | |
Secretary of State look at the issue of estate management companies? I | :30:27. | :30:30. | |
have seen very variable records of action on fire safety and responding | :30:31. | :30:35. | |
to concerns across privately owned tower blocks in my own constituency | :30:36. | :30:40. | |
and some of them are not living up to their responsibilities in terms | :30:41. | :30:44. | |
of staffing, resources and looking at issues like fire doors, | :30:45. | :30:48. | |
sprinklers and fire safety. I think he makes a very good point. One of | :30:49. | :30:55. | |
the lessons from this tragedy we are learning now means we should look at | :30:56. | :30:58. | |
the private sector more carefully and management companies. 13 group | :30:59. | :31:06. | |
own most of the social housing across Teesside. The paid for | :31:07. | :31:12. | |
nontoxic cladding for buildings in my constituency and the ended up | :31:13. | :31:16. | |
with flammable toxic material now being removed. One dangerous | :31:17. | :31:21. | |
alternative provided. Does the Minister agree that frauds like | :31:22. | :31:25. | |
these ought to be investigated and those responsible prosecuted? I | :31:26. | :31:35. | |
agree 100%. The Secretary of State said nothing about the cause of the | :31:36. | :31:41. | |
fire. I realise that is a section for days. Whether you see when the | :31:42. | :31:46. | |
tests on the fridge freezer will complete and whether he will | :31:47. | :31:50. | |
immediately change the advice that owners of this model can continue to | :31:51. | :31:53. | |
use them pending the outcome of the tests? I can assure the honourable | :31:54. | :32:01. | |
gentleman that my right honourable friend the Business Secretary are | :32:02. | :32:04. | |
not just speaking to the manufacturer of the fridge freezer | :32:05. | :32:08. | |
concerned, with regard to Grenfell Tower, also other white goods. The | :32:09. | :32:17. | |
piece of recall is frankly far too slow and that is something that my | :32:18. | :32:21. | |
right honourable friend is taking very seriously. -- the pace. Between | :32:22. | :32:29. | |
2010 and 2015 the Department reduced its capacity by a higher proportion | :32:30. | :32:38. | |
than any other department, also 40%. In many areas, the department is | :32:39. | :32:41. | |
very stretched. Will the Minister confirm that the number of staff in | :32:42. | :32:46. | |
the department is being increased so that it can coordinate the national | :32:47. | :32:51. | |
response to all that aspects of the tragedy in a timely manner, | :32:52. | :32:56. | |
including providing emergency support any council that request it? | :32:57. | :33:05. | |
Yes, it is being increased. I went to echo what colleagues have said | :33:06. | :33:10. | |
about the need for certainty about funding for councils. Bristol is | :33:11. | :33:15. | |
facing ?104 million of cuts. We need to know where that we need to make | :33:16. | :33:19. | |
other cuts or not. Can I pressed him on other changes that would help us | :33:20. | :33:25. | |
raise our own finance, scrapping the reduction rule and allowing us to | :33:26. | :33:29. | |
spend all of the receipts of Right to Buy a new housing, which would | :33:30. | :33:33. | |
free up public money for investment. With the dog to Bristol City Council | :33:34. | :33:36. | |
about doing these two things which would help pay for this work our | :33:37. | :33:41. | |
self? What I can tell the honourable lady is that in light of the | :33:42. | :33:46. | |
pressures on local authorities, it would make sense to look carefully | :33:47. | :33:53. | |
at the policies that may help them meet some of the challenges and that | :33:54. | :33:56. | |
is something that we have already started doing. Last week the Prime | :33:57. | :34:03. | |
Minister informed us that they would write to us on an update of safety | :34:04. | :34:08. | |
checks on all tower blocks. There are 63 tower blocks and my | :34:09. | :34:14. | |
constituency that I am yet to receive information, despite writing | :34:15. | :34:18. | |
to the Minister. We'll be Secretary of State provide an update now and | :34:19. | :34:26. | |
will be Government commit to fully fund the fitting of sprinkler | :34:27. | :34:30. | |
systems and any other associated costs to make sure people's homes | :34:31. | :34:36. | |
are safe? Following the Prime Minister's statement, there was a | :34:37. | :34:41. | |
letter sent by me to every member of Parliament and the other place. It | :34:42. | :34:46. | |
went on Friday and it has gone out. Also, on the issue of funding, I | :34:47. | :34:50. | |
believe I have answered that question. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The | :34:51. | :34:56. | |
question for the Secretary of State. In the wake of the awful disaster, | :34:57. | :35:05. | |
the German Government closed down all of its nuclear plants. Surely, | :35:06. | :35:11. | |
after an event such as the Grenfell Tower at tragedy, we should be | :35:12. | :35:15. | |
looking to put in sprinkler systems into all of our tower blocks. We I | :35:16. | :35:21. | |
agree with the honourable gentleman is where we should be doing what is | :35:22. | :35:30. | |
necessary deemed by the fire safety experts and making sure we take all | :35:31. | :35:34. | |
of that action as recommended by them to keep our citizens shaved. -- | :35:35. | :35:41. | |
keep our citizens safe. We will all agree that it was a national | :35:42. | :35:47. | |
disaster. The contingency fund exists to provide funding in these | :35:48. | :35:54. | |
sort of disasters. Which conversations has he had with the | :35:55. | :35:58. | |
Chancellor about releasing money to ensure all remedial work and | :35:59. | :36:05. | |
accommodation is funding directly by central Government, the local | :36:06. | :36:07. | |
authorities and housing associations. The conversations I | :36:08. | :36:14. | |
have had with the Chancellor affect what I have said today. Any works, | :36:15. | :36:20. | |
all housing associations, we will support them if they need funding | :36:21. | :36:28. | |
help. Can I praise on record the staff, officers and leader of Ealing | :36:29. | :36:34. | |
Council who stepped into lead the relief centre when Kensington was | :36:35. | :36:38. | |
overwhelmed. I am informed that standards at Ealing are higher. Any | :36:39. | :36:46. | |
inconsistency needs addressing with minimum requirements in place that | :36:47. | :36:50. | |
apply across tenure, even to halls of residence is. We have many of | :36:51. | :36:56. | |
those. They were in place before this enquiry sees the light of day. | :36:57. | :37:03. | |
I very much agree with the praise the honourable lady has placed on | :37:04. | :37:08. | |
the leader of Ealing, particularly the help they have provided in | :37:09. | :37:12. | |
helping after the tragedy. In terms of Ealing's response to this, they | :37:13. | :37:17. | |
have taken it seriously, that every council across London but it is | :37:18. | :37:21. | |
important that other councils do the same. I had been contacted by many | :37:22. | :37:25. | |
constituents concerned about our local hospital. It is a tower block | :37:26. | :37:31. | |
and it had cladding put on a couple of years ago. I know he said there | :37:32. | :37:36. | |
had been additional checks made to any jazz properties. I really could | :37:37. | :37:41. | |
have a statement about the outcomes of that investigation? -- NHS Robert | :37:42. | :37:49. | |
is. I will pass on that request but I do know the whole department is | :37:50. | :37:53. | |
taking this issue very seriously and they are very prioritising any | :37:54. | :37:59. | |
building that may have cladding on them. I note the Secretary of State | :38:00. | :38:06. | |
statement that he has asked landlords of private sector blocks | :38:07. | :38:11. | |
to consider their own buildings but there are around 150 privately owned | :38:12. | :38:18. | |
buildings in noting some -- Nottingham alone. What is he doing | :38:19. | :38:23. | |
to make sure the act to ensure the safety of their residence and what | :38:24. | :38:27. | |
is he doing to support local authorities who are working to | :38:28. | :38:35. | |
assure such assurances? First of all, we are reminding all of the | :38:36. | :38:41. | |
owners of those properties of their legal responsibilities, existing | :38:42. | :38:43. | |
legal responsibilities. We have done that through letting agents and | :38:44. | :38:48. | |
other bodies. We have also made our testing facilities available to all | :38:49. | :38:53. | |
of them free of charge. We will keep monitoring that. Right now my | :38:54. | :39:00. | |
priority has been the more recently clad buildings held by local | :39:01. | :39:04. | |
authorities and housing associations that have similar cladding to what | :39:05. | :39:10. | |
was at Grenfell Tower. Five tower blocks in my constituency were found | :39:11. | :39:15. | |
on Saturday lunchtime to have this dangerous cladding. By Sunday, it | :39:16. | :39:20. | |
has been removed. I praise the housing authority, the Fire and | :39:21. | :39:23. | |
Rescue Service for working together. That has done quickly and the | :39:24. | :39:31. | |
building is safe. Can the Secretary of State assure me that funding will | :39:32. | :39:36. | |
be made available not just a local authorities. The local authority in | :39:37. | :39:41. | |
my area do not have properties. The smaller housing authorities that | :39:42. | :39:45. | |
have this responsibility, will be correct funding be made available | :39:46. | :39:49. | |
and will be building regulations be looked at so that when tower blocks | :39:50. | :39:54. | |
or other buildings are retrofitted, they might comply with building | :39:55. | :39:58. | |
regulations at the time, but as things change, more checks will take | :39:59. | :40:04. | |
place? What I can confirm is that our commitment on funding and | :40:05. | :40:07. | |
providing support where necessary for those who need it also apply to | :40:08. | :40:12. | |
housing associations. The Secretary of State said that the problem of | :40:13. | :40:19. | |
cladding might not be just residential problems. It is not just | :40:20. | :40:23. | |
for high-rise tower blocks and there is a concern about sheltered housing | :40:24. | :40:28. | |
which has been described to me as a tower block current on its side. | :40:29. | :40:33. | |
Will be facilities for high-rise buildings be also made available for | :40:34. | :40:39. | |
these? Yes they will. In this country we have tried to do social | :40:40. | :40:44. | |
housing on the cheap and in the end, that decision has killed people. I | :40:45. | :40:51. | |
understand why the concern is about residential property but my | :40:52. | :40:55. | |
honourable friend is right, there are workplaces to which are probably | :40:56. | :41:00. | |
dangerous and the fire at Glasgow School of Art show old buildings are | :41:01. | :41:04. | |
in the most danger because they have a lot of timber walls and floors | :41:05. | :41:09. | |
that can easily spread fire across the building. This building is one | :41:10. | :41:14. | |
such. We have had hundreds of warnings and we have not acted on | :41:15. | :41:19. | |
them. We have a fire system that is so antiquated that it no longer | :41:20. | :41:23. | |
works. When will the Government make sure we will do the work that this | :41:24. | :41:28. | |
building needs? I have listened very carefully to what the honourable | :41:29. | :41:32. | |
gentleman has had to say and I will take that up. A point of order. | :41:33. | :41:38. | |
Thank you Mr Speaker. The Queen 's speech last week failed to inform | :41:39. | :41:44. | |
the local Government finance Bill. The commission of which has called | :41:45. | :41:51. | |
into question the switch of local retention business rates. Causing | :41:52. | :41:56. | |
financial uncertainty and concern to many local councils. Has the | :41:57. | :42:00. | |
Secretary of State given any indication to you on whether he | :42:01. | :42:06. | |
intends to come to the House and give an oral statement so that | :42:07. | :42:10. | |
honourable and Right Honourable members may question Ministers on | :42:11. | :42:16. | |
this important issue, and if not, is this a matter on which you will look | :42:17. | :42:20. | |
favourably on for an urgent question? | :42:21. | :42:23. | |
To well! He has told his arm. My response in the first part is a | :42:24. | :42:32. | |
conclusive note. The Secretary of State has given no indication of an | :42:33. | :42:37. | |
intention to make a statement on that. He could do is now but it is | :42:38. | :42:43. | |
not compulsory. If the right honourable gentleman wishes to | :42:44. | :42:47. | |
spring to his feet to offer assurance or other, he can. There is | :42:48. | :42:53. | |
a debate on the Queen's Speech tomorrow with local services. | :42:54. | :42:59. | |
Perhaps, bring it up then. We are grateful for that. So far as urging | :43:00. | :43:05. | |
questions of consent, if memory serves, during my tenure, I have | :43:06. | :43:16. | |
chaired 369. I am not adverse to selecting urging questions. There is | :43:17. | :43:18. | |
scope for them. The honourable gentleman is decent enough to know | :43:19. | :43:24. | |
that we are not supposed to mention these on the floor of the House. Or | :43:25. | :43:29. | |
at least a member thinking of submitting such is supposed to | :43:30. | :43:37. | |
mention it. There is a lot to be said for the wisdom of Lord | :43:38. | :43:42. | |
Whitelaw. On the home, I prefer to cross bridges only when I come to | :43:43. | :43:49. | |
them. As a new member, I wonder if the chair can advise me on the most | :43:50. | :43:54. | |
effective way of raising the worrying news from my constituency | :43:55. | :43:59. | |
that the Royal Bank of Scotland has announced 400 job losses. To | :44:00. | :44:04. | |
ascertain the potentially serious economic implications and whether | :44:05. | :44:07. | |
this is connected to the set of the surrounding Brexit. Undoubtedly a | :44:08. | :44:14. | |
new member, but she is clearly not a novice. In finding very public | :44:15. | :44:21. | |
opportunities to air her concerns on behalf of her constituents. The | :44:22. | :44:29. | |
short answer is that she has already at that consent to the device or | :44:30. | :44:33. | |
rooms. A slightly bogus point of order. -- ruse. She should seek to | :44:34. | :44:42. | |
question ministers aurally at the appropriate time, there are many | :44:43. | :44:49. | |
such opportunities, or through written questions. If the honourable | :44:50. | :44:54. | |
lady wishes to dilate on the matter more fully and to hear a minister do | :44:55. | :44:58. | |
so in response, the mechanism available to the honourable lady is | :44:59. | :45:02. | |
an adjournment debate. She shoot went her way to the table offers | :45:03. | :45:09. | |
where she will bounce qualified and conscientious staff only too happy | :45:10. | :45:19. | |
to advise her. I expect to hear from the honourable lady before very | :45:20. | :45:23. | |
long. On this matter. If there are no further points of order, we will | :45:24. | :45:30. | |
move now. The Clerk will read the orders of the day. Queen's Speech. | :45:31. | :45:34. | |
Motions for an address was adjourned debate on question. | :45:35. | :45:41. | |
I called to open the debate of the Secretary of State for Exiting the | :45:42. | :45:51. | |
European Union, David Davis. Thank you. Can I start by commending the | :45:52. | :45:57. | |
new member on learning the ropes quicker than the rest of us. The | :45:58. | :46:05. | |
negotiation over the action from the European Union is fundamental to our | :46:06. | :46:09. | |
kitchen. In the shape of everything we want to achieve as a country over | :46:10. | :46:15. | |
the coming decades. Refashioning Britain passed my place in the | :46:16. | :46:20. | |
world. Our success our future will determine handshake all of our | :46:21. | :46:24. | |
future. It is a great responsibility a great opportunity. It falls on | :46:25. | :46:30. | |
Oliver us in this Parliament to make a success of it. If we work | :46:31. | :46:38. | |
together, we can succeed, have a strong and growing economy that | :46:39. | :46:43. | |
spreads asperity. Underpinning public services and giving a better | :46:44. | :46:47. | |
future for us and our children. After Brexit, I have always been | :46:48. | :46:53. | |
clear the united kingdom will be an out looking, global nation it has | :46:54. | :46:56. | |
always been. It should be more engaged with the world than ever | :46:57. | :47:00. | |
before. I firmly believe that the vote to leave the EU was not a call | :47:01. | :47:06. | |
for re-changement. A call to look in on ourselves. The UK has the means, | :47:07. | :47:11. | |
ambition and now the freedom to play a more positive role in Europe. I | :47:12. | :47:20. | |
believe the opportunities Brexit are a global Britain. On that issue of | :47:21. | :47:25. | |
leaving the customs union and the single market, does he agree with me | :47:26. | :47:30. | |
that that will allow as to forge trade links with China, the United | :47:31. | :47:35. | |
States, which we cannot do on our own whilst we are members of the | :47:36. | :47:36. | |
European Union? He raises a good point, I will come | :47:37. | :47:47. | |
back. We have the means, ambition and freedom to play a more positive | :47:48. | :47:50. | |
part in the world, demonstrated in our commitment and dispense -- on | :47:51. | :47:57. | |
defence and international aid. The UK meet its Nato pledged to spend on | :47:58. | :48:07. | |
defence. And to spend 7% on the gross national income on development | :48:08. | :48:11. | |
and spending. That ensures we defend our values, work to tackle poverty | :48:12. | :48:16. | |
and conflict and how to protect the most vulnerable in the world. I give | :48:17. | :48:24. | |
way. Talking about our commitment to defence and the rest of the world, | :48:25. | :48:30. | |
international aid. I agree. What about the Government's commitment to | :48:31. | :48:34. | |
Wales before the Brexit debate. Andrew RT Davies says, I will make | :48:35. | :48:41. | |
it my mission to continue Wales receives every penny of the aid | :48:42. | :48:45. | |
money it has historically received by the EU. We deserve and are | :48:46. | :48:49. | |
entitled to know that. Wales Wales gets what it deserves? Of course. It | :48:50. | :48:56. | |
is represented on the joint ministerial committee. This issue | :48:57. | :49:00. | |
has came up and the main funding streams for Wales come in structural | :49:01. | :49:07. | |
funds not like they are underpinned by the Treasury to the end of the | :49:08. | :49:12. | |
current financial round. I will make some progress and give way again. I | :49:13. | :49:16. | |
have to be fairly disciplined because we have a very tight | :49:17. | :49:21. | |
timetable. After exiting the European Union, Britain will still | :49:22. | :49:25. | |
be a country that steps up to its role as a world leader. That means | :49:26. | :49:30. | |
continuing to help to secure our wider European governments who, | :49:31. | :49:37. | |
deepening co-operation with other European states and bringing policy | :49:38. | :49:42. | |
into a wider global framework. A deep and special partnership with | :49:43. | :49:46. | |
the European Union. One that reflects our shared values and | :49:47. | :49:49. | |
history. One that works for all part of the United Kingdom, overseas | :49:50. | :49:56. | |
territories, and Crown dependencies. The special circumstances between | :49:57. | :50:01. | |
Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, no one wants to see a | :50:02. | :50:07. | |
return to the hard border. It should be underpinned by ambitious | :50:08. | :50:11. | |
agreements on freak show, customs, governing goods and services. Tariff | :50:12. | :50:18. | |
and barrier free trade. -- free trade and customs. Much talk of | :50:19. | :50:24. | |
transitional arrangements. If such are put in place, can the Secretary | :50:25. | :50:28. | |
of state guarantee that there will be legally binding agreements on | :50:29. | :50:33. | |
trade and customs arrangements as well as taking those arrangements | :50:34. | :50:38. | |
outside the agreement of the European Court of Justice? Indeed. | :50:39. | :50:43. | |
We will endeavour to achieve that, legally binding arrangements on | :50:44. | :50:52. | |
that. I will give way. I appreciate what the Secretary of state has said | :50:53. | :50:56. | |
about the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. | :50:57. | :51:00. | |
He does accept, however, that if security information indicates that | :51:01. | :51:06. | |
there is a radicalisation of people in the Republic of Ireland, security | :51:07. | :51:10. | |
considerations will always predominate in terms of the border | :51:11. | :51:16. | |
issue? Well, I say to the honourable gentleman that security | :51:17. | :51:19. | |
considerations always predominates on controlled immigration and | :51:20. | :51:26. | |
migration generally. There will be no difference. We treat the security | :51:27. | :51:31. | |
of all of our citizens and our allies' citizens as Parliament. It | :51:32. | :51:37. | |
should include a broad security agreement, including defence, | :51:38. | :51:42. | |
foreign policy, justice, home affairs, law enforcement and | :51:43. | :51:46. | |
counterterrorism. It should be supported by continued cooperation | :51:47. | :51:49. | |
and open access in highly regulated areas like aviation, nuclear, | :51:50. | :51:55. | |
transport. We recognise a wide-ranging partnership must have | :51:56. | :52:00. | |
their implementation and be long-lasting. We must ensure | :52:01. | :52:07. | |
mechanisms exist of our regulatory frameworks to maintain a fair and | :52:08. | :52:11. | |
open trading environment and minimise nontariff barriers. I give | :52:12. | :52:19. | |
away. At the weekend, he said he was pretty sure that he would get the | :52:20. | :52:22. | |
sort of trading deal he wants. Does that sort of language are the sort | :52:23. | :52:26. | |
of assurances our businesses and the economy needs? The question was put | :52:27. | :52:36. | |
to me, whether I was 100% sure. The first thing one to learn in this | :52:37. | :52:39. | |
business is to be honest these things. Bluntly. I don't think | :52:40. | :52:49. | |
saying at the beginning of a negotiation, you are 100% sure of | :52:50. | :52:53. | |
exactly what the outcome will be, would give confidence to anyone. It | :52:54. | :52:57. | |
would not give confidence to me even if said by him! I thank U. The whole | :52:58. | :53:09. | |
point of negotiation is to be prepared and ready not to do a deal. | :53:10. | :53:14. | |
That way, you can have strength in your negotiation. To that extent, | :53:15. | :53:18. | |
Woods my right honourable friend agree that we must do customs that I | :53:19. | :53:26. | |
suspect Dover. Deal or no Deal? I agree that we have to make sure. A | :53:27. | :53:34. | |
large part, almost an invisible part of my job, is actually making sure | :53:35. | :53:45. | |
we are... That happens as we speak now. This new partnership must be | :53:46. | :53:52. | |
overseen by new and independent impartial dispute resolution | :53:53. | :53:54. | |
mechanism. This cannot and will not be the European Court of Justice. No | :53:55. | :53:59. | |
nation outside the European Union submits the direct jurisdiction of | :54:00. | :54:10. | |
the European Court of Justice. Neither with the UK. Everyone in | :54:11. | :54:14. | |
this House will agree that European Union citizens make a contribution, | :54:15. | :54:19. | |
hugely, to our insider. The overarching principle is that | :54:20. | :54:22. | |
European citizens living here will continue to live their lives at | :54:23. | :54:25. | |
exactly the same rate as British citizens with the same right and | :54:26. | :54:32. | |
responsibilities. We intend to reach agreement on this issue as quickly | :54:33. | :54:38. | |
as possible. I have given away quite a lot of no. Not everything in these | :54:39. | :54:47. | |
negotiations will be easy. I am practising being masterful. They | :54:48. | :54:52. | |
will be complex. I have no doubt at times even confrontational. I am | :54:53. | :54:57. | |
convinced both sides want to secure close cooperation and a deep new | :54:58. | :55:04. | |
partnership. In a moment. Last year in the referendum we received a | :55:05. | :55:07. | |
national instruction, one which we were undertaken in a way that serves | :55:08. | :55:11. | |
the national interest. The instruction for British people was | :55:12. | :55:15. | |
to take back control our borders and money and laws. But the Conservative | :55:16. | :55:20. | |
and labour campaigned on manifestos which promised a exits the European | :55:21. | :55:24. | |
Union and ends the free movement of people. Those manifestos received | :55:25. | :55:29. | |
over 80% of the popular vote. Failing to deliver on this | :55:30. | :55:32. | |
instruction is not an option for those of us who count ourselves as | :55:33. | :55:37. | |
Democrats. Ending the of people means leaving the single market. As | :55:38. | :55:42. | |
the EU has made abundantly clear to those who cared to listen. I will | :55:43. | :55:50. | |
give way. He said that countries that are outside the EU would not | :55:51. | :55:55. | |
directly be under the remit of the European Court of Justice. Several | :55:56. | :56:01. | |
countries outside of the EU indirectly have arrangements with | :56:02. | :56:05. | |
the European Union whereby the European Court of Justice or the | :56:06. | :56:08. | |
equivalent body is established. If that's what she is aiming for? No, | :56:09. | :56:13. | |
what she are describing is something... That is not the aim, | :56:14. | :56:22. | |
the aim is to have an independent arbitrator arrangement. There is an | :56:23. | :56:30. | |
agreement that as nominees from other side and an independent chair, | :56:31. | :56:35. | |
that is the sort of thing we have in mind. I am afraid the honourable | :56:36. | :56:42. | |
gentleman has to learn some discipline at some point in life. I | :56:43. | :56:44. | |
thought this up. Ending the free movement of people | :56:45. | :56:54. | |
ends chilly means leaving the European market. We need | :56:55. | :57:03. | |
this does not mean losing access to the market which is why we are | :57:04. | :57:08. | |
proposing a new, ambitious free trade agreement. It is not just | :57:09. | :57:11. | |
about protecting existing markets as my honourable friend raised. To | :57:12. | :57:18. | |
deliver the national interest, we much must seize new freedoms in | :57:19. | :57:22. | |
terms of trade to create jobs and lift living standards. Britain must | :57:23. | :57:26. | |
get out into the world, fought its own power and be edge of | :57:27. | :57:32. | |
Written for the first time in over 40 years will be able to take full | :57:33. | :57:40. | |
advantage of growing markets across the world and fashion a trade policy | :57:41. | :57:46. | |
about one country's interest. It trade policy that sits this country | :57:47. | :57:50. | |
and this country alone. This has been reflected... The European | :57:51. | :57:59. | |
Commission itself says that 90% of the future growth in world trade | :58:00. | :58:02. | |
will come from outside the European union. This has been reflected by | :58:03. | :58:06. | |
the long-term decline in British goods that caught the European | :58:07. | :58:11. | |
union, as our global trade has increased dramatically. I will give | :58:12. | :58:17. | |
way. Having just come from the European Parliament, would the | :58:18. | :58:23. | |
Secretary of State agreed with me that there are many colleagues from | :58:24. | :58:27. | |
across Europe who also want to see a deep trading partnership with that | :58:28. | :58:36. | |
and going forward based on keeping standards for consumers and high | :58:37. | :58:40. | |
standards and therefore a special spoke relationship for our trade? I | :58:41. | :58:44. | |
congratulate my honourable friend on what was her maiden adventure | :58:45. | :58:49. | |
delivered brilliantly and she is exactly right. We want e:g., | :58:50. | :58:54. | |
special, a spoke arrangement to maximise our trade opportunities. As | :58:55. | :59:02. | |
I said, the 90% growth outside has meant our share of trading has gone | :59:03. | :59:08. | |
down. In services, we are a 60% outside of the U and 40% inside. All | :59:09. | :59:16. | |
of this, without preferential agreements for our trade. The best | :59:17. | :59:21. | |
academic data I can find shows that creating a new trade agreement | :59:22. | :59:26. | |
increases the amount of trade by 20%. If the House once an individual | :59:27. | :59:33. | |
parable, Nafta increased its trade by 40%. These are significant in | :59:34. | :59:39. | |
terms of policy that we can exercise. The honourable member is | :59:40. | :59:43. | |
looking at me. I thank the Secretary of State forgiving way to me. Can he | :59:44. | :59:50. | |
confirm what the most recent academic research says about the | :59:51. | :59:53. | |
cost to the British economy of coming out of the single market and | :59:54. | :59:58. | |
the customs union? That research would depend on what the deal was. | :59:59. | :00:03. | |
It is madness to make an estimate without knowing what the deal is. If | :00:04. | :00:09. | |
the deal is a comprehensive free trade area, it would be zero effect. | :00:10. | :00:15. | |
It is rather daft to try and recite some nonexistent academic issue. He | :00:16. | :00:24. | |
hasn't yet built my sympathy. I think the Secretary of State has | :00:25. | :00:27. | |
indicated he is not going to give away. I think he needs to accept | :00:28. | :00:36. | |
that. -- give way. If this house once a Brexit deal that drives | :00:37. | :00:40. | |
prosperity and living standards, is it really once a Brexit for jobs, it | :00:41. | :00:46. | |
must put its faith in free trade and ensure an exit means we can embrace | :00:47. | :00:53. | |
its opportunities to the full. Let's move the aunt soft and hard Brexit | :00:54. | :00:57. | |
and think about how we fashion our place in the world and start acting | :00:58. | :01:02. | |
together in national interest. I will give way now. The start of a | :01:03. | :01:10. | |
very special relationship. The Secretary of State will know that | :01:11. | :01:14. | |
the Prime Minister published her document about EU citizens living in | :01:15. | :01:19. | |
the UK. She failed to mention in the House that all of those EU citizens | :01:20. | :01:23. | |
will not be functioning as that, they will have to have documentation | :01:24. | :01:32. | |
with them. I am surprised, surely this Secretary of State is not going | :01:33. | :01:36. | |
to support ID cards for a national in the UK. I was right not to give | :01:37. | :01:43. | |
away in the first place. He has got it wrong. It is not an ID card. We | :01:44. | :01:48. | |
are talking about documentation to prove you have a right to a job and | :01:49. | :01:54. | |
residency. It is not an ID card. It is like your births are to be good | :01:55. | :01:58. | |
and not your ID card. Good heavens. I will return to... Deputies beaker, | :01:59. | :02:05. | |
to the agenda. That is an extensive... This is going to be the | :02:06. | :02:14. | |
last one. For those, such as the Liberal Democrats and others, should | :02:15. | :02:20. | |
do not ask their constituents, do they really want the United Kingdom | :02:21. | :02:27. | |
indefinitely to remain part of an undemocratic system which is | :02:28. | :02:31. | |
governed by majority voting which takes place behind closed doors and | :02:32. | :02:39. | |
moving on to the common finance ministry and further moves towards a | :02:40. | :02:42. | |
critical union in which we would be within the second tier of the two | :02:43. | :02:50. | |
tier union...? In all the Right honourable gentleman said it was | :02:51. | :02:58. | |
short, but it was very long. Secretary of State. It was a | :02:59. | :03:03. | |
characterisation that he has been making for many years and it was | :03:04. | :03:10. | |
right today. There is in agenda which will prepare the UK for its | :03:11. | :03:14. | |
new place in the world. Working in the national interest will be | :03:15. | :03:21. | |
crucial as we go through this by putting legislation in place to make | :03:22. | :03:25. | |
sure our laws work when we leave the European Union. I am willing to work | :03:26. | :03:30. | |
with anyone for this end. The importance of this issue makes that | :03:31. | :03:33. | |
essential. The eyes of the country will be on us all and we will be | :03:34. | :03:39. | |
judged on our ability to work together to deliver the verdict from | :03:40. | :03:42. | |
the referendum. Nothing is more central to this than the repeal | :03:43. | :03:48. | |
Bill, the so-called Great Repeal Bill. To repeal the 1972 act and to | :03:49. | :03:55. | |
transfer existing European union law into UK law and to answer a question | :03:56. | :03:59. | |
which my opposite number has raised, these rights and freedoms brought in | :04:00. | :04:06. | |
without limitation and any sunset clauses. Any material changes will | :04:07. | :04:10. | |
be dealt with by primary legislation. I cannot stress enough | :04:11. | :04:14. | |
to the House and to the nation the importance of this Bill in ensuring | :04:15. | :04:19. | |
we have a smooth and orderly exit from the European union. Every part | :04:20. | :04:22. | |
of the United Kingdom needs to prepare its statute book and make | :04:23. | :04:28. | |
sure it functions after we leave the European Union. The Bill will give | :04:29. | :04:31. | |
the administration and the power to do that and ensure an orderly exit | :04:32. | :04:36. | |
for all. As we have also said, there will be an increase in decision | :04:37. | :04:41. | |
making power of each devolved administration once we exit the EU. | :04:42. | :04:49. | |
That is why... If he its two seconds. That is why, given this | :04:50. | :04:54. | |
Bill affects devolved institutions, we will seek the consent of the | :04:55. | :05:00. | |
devolved legislatures for the Bill. That smack -- D1 to intervene? I am | :05:01. | :05:10. | |
grateful to the Secretary of State forgiving way. The Secretary of | :05:11. | :05:16. | |
State for environment ensured the people of Scotland that after Brexit | :05:17. | :05:21. | |
Scotland could expect to have devolved power over our immigration | :05:22. | :05:25. | |
policy. Does you still agree to this undertaking? I do not remember that. | :05:26. | :05:30. | |
I will look at it and come back to it. I will give way to the | :05:31. | :05:39. | |
honourable lady. I am grateful for giving way. He talks about an | :05:40. | :05:44. | |
extensive agenda that he still misses out anything to do with the | :05:45. | :05:49. | |
environment. There is no environment built. Seeing we are going to | :05:50. | :05:53. | |
transfer legislation into the repeal Bill does not work. If you have not | :05:54. | :05:57. | |
got the commission, there is no clarity as to how you are going to | :05:58. | :06:01. | |
enforce that legislation. Why is there no Bill? When it is | :06:02. | :06:08. | |
transferred across, there will be stages in this as I have explained | :06:09. | :06:16. | |
before, which we create the relevant administrations and bodies and so on | :06:17. | :06:22. | |
to actually run the new legislation. Development beyond that will come | :06:23. | :06:25. | |
later but at the moment we're talking about bringing the whole | :06:26. | :06:30. | |
corpus of EU environmental law into British law. That is not nothing by | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
any stretch of the imagination. I have progressed to make. When we | :06:36. | :06:44. | |
designed our Bill, we went to get our big in order for the day we exit | :06:45. | :06:50. | |
but also for full scrutiny. The only viable planet has been put forward | :06:51. | :06:55. | |
by this house some concerns by the benches opposite but I have heard no | :06:56. | :07:01. | |
detailed proposals of how they would approach this crucial matter. As I | :07:02. | :07:05. | |
have said to my opposite number, if you next two years we find something | :07:06. | :07:09. | |
we have missed, we will put it right. That offer still stands not | :07:10. | :07:14. | |
just to the opposition but the entire house. We must get this right | :07:15. | :07:18. | |
and we must deliver you statute book by the date we exit the European | :07:19. | :07:26. | |
union. We found alternatives. Their recommended approach is close to | :07:27. | :07:31. | |
what we have set out. For businesses, workers across the | :07:32. | :07:37. | |
United Kingdom it is important we take on the task of working together | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
in the national interest to provide stability. While the repeal Bill is | :07:42. | :07:47. | |
the centrepiece of our approach, it is not the only piece of Brexit | :07:48. | :07:53. | |
legislation. The Government is bringing through bills and I would | :07:54. | :07:57. | |
say to the honourable lady, the first one and not the last one, on | :07:58. | :08:07. | |
areas affected by our exit. Trade, customs, immigration, nuclear | :08:08. | :08:08. | |
safeguards, agriculture and fisheries. We are not going to mix | :08:09. | :08:15. | |
music and policy changes without first passing legislation that will | :08:16. | :08:20. | |
be debated and voted on in both houses. These bills deliver on that | :08:21. | :08:25. | |
promise. The initial Bill has a further purpose. As many would | :08:26. | :08:30. | |
agree, it is the job of a responsible Government to prepare | :08:31. | :08:32. | |
for all eventualities. I make weird again, -- I make clear again, we | :08:33. | :08:42. | |
want a close new partnership with the EU that works for everyone. We | :08:43. | :08:48. | |
want to make sure we have the functioning system, no matter what. | :08:49. | :08:53. | |
These bills will help provide that. Not doing so would be a dereliction | :08:54. | :09:03. | |
of duty. I think that is the phrase she used. We must be prepared for | :09:04. | :09:07. | |
any outcome. I remain confident that we can get the right deal from these | :09:08. | :09:13. | |
negotiations. Doing so is in the interest of the UK and the EU. A | :09:14. | :09:19. | |
strong and prosperous EU and continuing to play a leading role in | :09:20. | :09:24. | |
the world is in our interests. Just as a strong and prosperous United | :09:25. | :09:29. | |
Kingdom is in the EU interest. The task ahead will be challenging but | :09:30. | :09:33. | |
it is a task set to us by the British people in the referendum, a | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
national instruction. It is our duty in this house to pull together and | :09:39. | :09:42. | |
deliver on that instruction in the national interest. If we do, we can | :09:43. | :09:47. | |
deliver better and brighter future for the United Kingdom, future where | :09:48. | :09:53. | |
we are on the world stage for free trade, a true beacon for democracy. | :09:54. | :10:04. | |
When Britain voted in the referendum one year and four days ago, the | :10:05. | :10:10. | |
question on the ballot paper was a narrow technical question. To remain | :10:11. | :10:18. | |
in order to leave the EU. It was far from narrow and technical. People | :10:19. | :10:23. | |
sought different questions behind those boxes. It was able on the | :10:24. | :10:30. | |
state of the nation. Just as the general election turned out to be. | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
In nation fed up with inequality, fed up with low wages, fed up with | :10:36. | :10:41. | |
under resourced public services, fed up with the imbalance between our | :10:42. | :10:45. | |
nations and regions, that up with staring at fed up with politics and | :10:46. | :10:52. | |
politicians. If ever there was a need for a Government capable of | :10:53. | :10:58. | |
transforming the country economically and politically, it is | :10:59. | :11:03. | |
now. Britain needed a transformative Queen 's speech last week. This | :11:04. | :11:09. | |
Government is too weak to deliver it. The Queen speech is threadbare | :11:10. | :11:15. | |
and lacks ambition, there is no detail. There cannot be because the | :11:16. | :11:23. | |
Prime Minister gambled and lost. A majority has become a minority, all | :11:24. | :11:29. | |
bets are off as to the future. Just when we needed strong Government, we | :11:30. | :11:34. | |
have uncertainty and fragility. I suspect history would be a harsh | :11:35. | :11:41. | |
critic. It does not end there. When the Prime Minister made the | :11:42. | :11:46. | |
statement calling the general collection she said, and I quote, | :11:47. | :11:50. | |
every vote for the Conservatives will make me stronger when I | :11:51. | :11:54. | |
negotiate for Britain. Every vote for the Conservatives means I can't | :11:55. | :12:00. | |
stick to my plan. She wanted a landslide. She ended up in a mess. | :12:01. | :12:08. | |
Her own description. The majority a Prime Minister has no majority, no | :12:09. | :12:16. | |
mandate and no authority. It tells. The outcome of the first round of | :12:17. | :12:21. | |
the negotiation shows how unrealistic the rhetoric has been. | :12:22. | :12:27. | |
There would be the row over the summer of the negotiations. I'm up | :12:28. | :12:37. | |
-- by lunchtime on Monday, it folded. The Government has gotten | :12:38. | :12:41. | |
the back foot on a mission to EU citizens. As they acted unilaterally | :12:42. | :12:48. | |
and quickly, as Labour said it should, they could have set the | :12:49. | :12:53. | |
agenda. Instead, the EU has done so, stated their position in April. Full | :12:54. | :12:58. | |
rights as they are currently enjoying to be guaranteed, | :12:59. | :13:02. | |
underpinned by the Court of Justice of the European Union. The | :13:03. | :13:04. | |
Government 's position is now seen by them as an inadequate response. | :13:05. | :13:12. | |
Over the Prime Minister, may I just say this, struggled to give an | :13:13. | :13:19. | |
adequate answer to the Leeds Central member. The Secretary of state | :13:20. | :13:24. | |
knows, I know, the EU partners know, he writes of family unification | :13:25. | :13:27. | |
currently enjoyed by EU nationals will change but in future will be | :13:28. | :13:34. | |
subject to the financial and other qualifications that applied more | :13:35. | :13:37. | |
generally. They will change. That is perhaps why that question was | :13:38. | :13:43. | |
appointed. I hope we do get agreement on EU citizens and on UK | :13:44. | :13:47. | |
citizens. I do hope we get an agreement. I do hope we get an early | :13:48. | :13:54. | |
agreement to settle the anxiety. The Government's approach to date has | :13:55. | :13:57. | |
made that harder to achieve than it should have been. Congratulations, | :13:58. | :14:11. | |
by the way. Is it Labour's policy to support the rule of the European | :14:12. | :14:14. | |
Court of Justice within the United Kingdom? EU citizens first, and more | :14:15. | :14:25. | |
generally. So far as EU nationals are concerned, we need to understand | :14:26. | :14:30. | |
the concern our EU partners have. They recognise whatever agreement is | :14:31. | :14:37. | |
in place has to last the lifetime of EU nationals here. That means in | :14:38. | :14:43. | |
some cases 50 years or more. They know how our system works. They know | :14:44. | :14:52. | |
that no one Government can bind the next. Their concern is | :14:53. | :14:56. | |
understandable. What is given in good faith and SU today could be | :14:57. | :15:03. | |
taken away in one year, two years, ten years. Their citizens wants to | :15:04. | :15:07. | |
have to live several decades. That is why they want some mechanism, | :15:08. | :15:12. | |
external to our parliamentary regime, in order to underpin those | :15:13. | :15:19. | |
rights. It is no answer to their concern to simply say we have got | :15:20. | :15:23. | |
the best judges, the Supreme Court. As the Secretary of state will | :15:24. | :15:27. | |
understand, if the door in this country changes in five years, and | :15:28. | :15:32. | |
their rights are reduced, our Supreme Court will have do apply the | :15:33. | :15:37. | |
legislation as it then is rather than the agreement that is reached | :15:38. | :15:41. | |
here. That is their concern in order to have something... The Prime | :15:42. | :15:46. | |
Minister, when pressed on this last week, and I think it is in the | :15:47. | :15:49. | |
document that was produced today, made clear it will be an | :15:50. | :15:54. | |
international agreement. It is subject to international enforcement | :15:55. | :16:00. | |
and the pretence that this can all be done within our own courts and | :16:01. | :16:07. | |
jurisdiction is a pretence. I will come to the wider question when I | :16:08. | :16:12. | |
will. It would be far better to be honest and do this in a grown-up | :16:13. | :16:18. | |
life. Better if the governments recognise the core concerns of the | :16:19. | :16:23. | |
EU and meets their concerns. These are the lives of real people going | :16:24. | :16:25. | |
on for decades and decades. Back home, the divisions are | :16:26. | :16:38. | |
obvious. The Chancellor's Speech last week was clearly an attempt to | :16:39. | :16:42. | |
spike the Prime Minister's Brexit approach. He spoke of, I quote, a | :16:43. | :16:52. | |
jobs and prosperity first Brexit. That reflect the Labour Party | :16:53. | :16:56. | |
manifesto where we said a jobs and economy first Brexit. Jobs and | :16:57. | :17:02. | |
prosperity? Jobs and the economy. The Chancellor also spoke of an | :17:03. | :17:08. | |
early agreement on transitional measures. No cliff edge for the | :17:09. | :17:17. | |
economy. It is the Labour Party manifesto. To negotiate transitional | :17:18. | :17:22. | |
arrangements, to avoid a cliff edge. The Chancellor has clearly been | :17:23. | :17:26. | |
reading our position. The Chancellor spoke of management of migration, | :17:27. | :17:29. | |
not shutting it down. The Labour Party manifesto, fair rules and | :17:30. | :17:34. | |
reasonable management of migration. The question is, if the Chancellor's | :17:35. | :17:42. | |
Speech a personal view, the Government's view, or the view that | :17:43. | :17:47. | |
he hopes the next by Minister will take? -- the next by Minister will | :17:48. | :17:54. | |
take? Clearly, we cannot go on like this. It is damaging our reputation | :17:55. | :18:00. | |
abroad. It is damaging our reputation abroad and weakening our | :18:01. | :18:06. | |
position. I was in Brussels last week, too, and the talk in Brussels, | :18:07. | :18:11. | |
what is going on? How long is this Government going to last? We have | :18:12. | :18:15. | |
put ourselves in the worst possible starting position. | :18:16. | :18:22. | |
I am grateful. While on his manifesto, I wonder if ye might | :18:23. | :18:30. | |
clear up a really important point. After the General Election having | :18:31. | :18:35. | |
fought on a manifesto that made it clear they would take back control | :18:36. | :18:38. | |
of their borders in the labour manifesto, both his leader, his | :18:39. | :18:44. | |
Shadow Chancellor, and the Member for Camberwell and Peckham, they | :18:45. | :18:47. | |
made it clear the Labour position was to take back to the Borders, | :18:48. | :18:51. | |
leave the single market, leave the customs union. Subsequently, he has | :18:52. | :18:55. | |
gone out and said that leaving the single market and the customs union, | :18:56. | :19:02. | |
they were on the table. What is the position? That is not an accurate | :19:03. | :19:09. | |
reflection. I will come to that in due course. Mr Deputy Speaker, the | :19:10. | :19:19. | |
Prime Minister and the Secretary of State need to acknowledge the effect | :19:20. | :19:27. | |
of the Brexit strategy. If it was an attempt, the General Election, as | :19:28. | :19:30. | |
the Prime Minister said, to strengthen her hand and Brexit, the | :19:31. | :19:35. | |
outcome is a powerful case for a rethink. It is time to press the | :19:36. | :19:40. | |
reset button. The tone of approach has to change first. The | :19:41. | :19:44. | |
belligerence, hostile attitude has emanated our allies. -- alienate it | :19:45. | :19:54. | |
and left us isolated. We need a constructive and responsible | :19:55. | :19:58. | |
approach. We share values with our EU partners. We have a shared | :19:59. | :20:05. | |
history. We will continue to share values. Not membership of the EU, | :20:06. | :20:11. | |
but a full and meaningful partnership with the EU based on | :20:12. | :20:18. | |
principles of cooperation. I am on about a tone and approach. This is | :20:19. | :20:22. | |
particularly pertinent for the Foreign Secretary. Tone and | :20:23. | :20:30. | |
approach. Anyone who has been backwards and forwards to Brussels | :20:31. | :20:33. | |
knows how badly some of our Foreign Secretary's comments have gone down. | :20:34. | :20:37. | |
It is about building an environment to get the best deal for our | :20:38. | :20:41. | |
country, which is in the interests of all of us. I would request him to | :20:42. | :20:49. | |
change his tone to something a bit more positive. Brexit is an | :20:50. | :20:53. | |
opportunity for our country to grasp, not a crisis to manage. To | :20:54. | :20:58. | |
put their what is the British people voted for is hypocritical and | :20:59. | :21:05. | |
arrogant of him. One of the biggest risks to these negotiations is utter | :21:06. | :21:11. | |
complacency. Utter complacency. The failure to realise the risks and | :21:12. | :21:14. | |
complexity of the negotiations. It is quite right for the opposition to | :21:15. | :21:22. | |
challenge the Government at every twist and turn to make sure that | :21:23. | :21:26. | |
these negotiations go as well as they possibly can. I will make some | :21:27. | :21:33. | |
progress. Mr Deputy Speaker, in addition to tone and approach, the | :21:34. | :21:39. | |
second thing that needs to change is dropping the no deal is better than | :21:40. | :21:45. | |
a bad deal manager. -- mantra. No deal would be a miserable failure. | :21:46. | :21:50. | |
As the Chancellor said, it would be a very bad outcome indeed. It is | :21:51. | :21:57. | |
what happens automatically on the 29th of March 2019 if we do not | :21:58. | :22:01. | |
reach agreement. We are gently pushed over a cliff. Threatening to | :22:02. | :22:10. | |
jump does not get anyone. No deal means no agreement at all. No | :22:11. | :22:16. | |
agreement on trade, no agreement on security. No arrangements for | :22:17. | :22:23. | |
passing information, because that is all done according to EU framework. | :22:24. | :22:27. | |
No agreement the Secretary of State knows very | :22:28. | :22:37. | |
well at this point. He should not belittle it. If | :22:38. | :22:43. | |
if we do not reach agreement, we have no arrangements in place to | :22:44. | :22:50. | |
replicate the current arrangements for passing security and | :22:51. | :22:53. | |
intelligence and counterterrorism, counter crime information across. | :22:54. | :22:58. | |
There is no point in a pained expression. If we have not reached | :22:59. | :23:02. | |
agreement, we have not reached agreement on those matters. It also | :23:03. | :23:07. | |
means we have not reached agreement on aviation. We have not reached | :23:08. | :23:14. | |
agreement on the Northern Ireland border, it also means. We have not | :23:15. | :23:19. | |
reached agreement on EU citizens. That is what no deal is. No deal, no | :23:20. | :23:26. | |
agreement. The Secretary of State said we must be honest in the | :23:27. | :23:30. | |
debate. You must know in his heart of hearts, that is an untenable | :23:31. | :23:34. | |
position for the United Kingdom to find itself in 2019. Let today be | :23:35. | :23:41. | |
the day we bury the phrase no deal is better than a bad deal. I will | :23:42. | :23:50. | |
give way. For him to be balanced in his view on no deal, he also needs | :23:51. | :23:55. | |
to talk about what no deal means to the EU. Site we looked at this in | :23:56. | :24:02. | |
Foreign Affairs Committee. The experts say no deal is as harsh for | :24:03. | :24:08. | |
no deal for the United Kingdom. A better balance in his words will go | :24:09. | :24:11. | |
down very well in terms of common policy on this. I am grateful. I | :24:12. | :24:19. | |
readily accept that not only do we need to do, but the EU needs a deal. | :24:20. | :24:26. | |
That is why we should not be talking up no deal as a viable strategy. Or | :24:27. | :24:39. | |
adopting the position that no deal is OK. No deal gains we have not | :24:40. | :24:47. | |
agreed anything. That he accepts that adopting a narrative that is so | :24:48. | :24:52. | |
thoroughly not critical of the European Union he leaves himself and | :24:53. | :24:55. | |
his party open to the charge that they wish to subvert the will of the | :24:56. | :25:00. | |
British people? Is he holding to page six of his own manifesto that | :25:01. | :25:05. | |
said we wish to read the European Union? -- leave the European Union. | :25:06. | :25:14. | |
I really do not think that shooting the idea that no deal could possibly | :25:15. | :25:22. | |
be viable or tenable are actually, in honesty, the position we could | :25:23. | :25:26. | |
possibly arrive back at 2019 is adopting the position of the EU. It | :25:27. | :25:31. | |
is adopting the position of the UK. The UK needs a deal to safeguard | :25:32. | :25:35. | |
interests. This is a point made in national interest. It is realistic | :25:36. | :25:47. | |
to imagine that we will not get a comment is a trade agreement with | :25:48. | :25:53. | |
the EU and interim arrangements will process. Those may well be zero | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
tariff rules. You have to believe the EU is seriously insane if they | :25:59. | :26:02. | |
want to ground all flights between the UK and the EU. If they refuse to | :26:03. | :26:09. | |
do the products and standards arrangements they have with many | :26:10. | :26:12. | |
other countries whether or not they have a free trade deal that they | :26:13. | :26:19. | |
will check every car exported to the EU to see if it fits the definition | :26:20. | :26:27. | |
of a car. This mischaracterisation of the point I am making really does | :26:28. | :26:33. | |
not help. This is not the EU demanding. If we do not have a | :26:34. | :26:38. | |
lawful basis for these activities in the UK, we do not have the authority | :26:39. | :26:42. | |
to do it. It is no good talking up a no deal is if it is a viable, | :26:43. | :26:47. | |
tenable option. I am going to press on to the third point. We need a | :26:48. | :26:53. | |
razor like focus on how we retain the benefits of the single market | :26:54. | :26:59. | |
and the customs union. The Secretary of State sat at that dispatch box in | :27:00. | :27:04. | |
January and promised this House he would reach an agreement that | :27:05. | :27:08. | |
provided the exact same benefits, I quote, files single market | :27:09. | :27:16. | |
membership and the customs union. We have raised repeatedly since then | :27:17. | :27:19. | |
that we will hold him to that. It is one of the six tests as set out for | :27:20. | :27:23. | |
the Government to meet when it comes to the final agreement. | :27:24. | :27:30. | |
Would he agree the best way to get the benefits of the single market is | :27:31. | :27:34. | |
to stay in the single market? The shadow Secretary of State will | :27:35. | :27:50. | |
be heard and if it means people being removed from the Chamber, that | :27:51. | :27:56. | |
will happen as well. Our manifesto was clear about retaining the | :27:57. | :28:00. | |
benefits of the single market and the customs union. As far as | :28:01. | :28:08. | |
membership is concerned, although almost everybody who once a | :28:09. | :28:11. | |
progressive new relationship with the EU wants to retain the single | :28:12. | :28:16. | |
market and the customer union, almost everybody accepts that cannot | :28:17. | :28:20. | |
be done without reform because of the rules of the single market as | :28:21. | :28:25. | |
they now are. The question as to whether we start from reform of the | :28:26. | :28:30. | |
single market or an agreement and work up a secondary to the upcoming | :28:31. | :28:35. | |
want to achieve. The outcome we want to achieve is no tariffs for goods | :28:36. | :28:43. | |
going across us and the EU and vice versa, no red tape, including rules | :28:44. | :28:47. | |
of origin and a deal that works for services as well as goods. That is | :28:48. | :28:51. | |
the outcome may want to achieve. We have to recognise the concerns of | :28:52. | :28:58. | |
the EU and they art to concerns in particular. -- there are two | :28:59. | :29:07. | |
concerns. If we are released of all obligations of moving goods and | :29:08. | :29:12. | |
services across Europe, we will be able to undercut them economic | :29:13. | :29:14. | |
weight and that is their main concern. The second is if we strike | :29:15. | :29:23. | |
free trade agreements, the release from any of the standards they | :29:24. | :29:27. | |
applied, there is the prospect of flooding the UK of goods and | :29:28. | :29:30. | |
products from other countries that don't meet those standards. The are | :29:31. | :29:38. | |
the issues we need to negotiate. I know this is an issue of real | :29:39. | :29:43. | |
concern to our own party. We have said the outcomes are what matter, | :29:44. | :29:48. | |
not the model for achieving those outcomes. Not the model. I will say | :29:49. | :29:58. | |
this,... I will give way. I listened very carefully to what she was | :29:59. | :30:03. | |
saying. He does not want to have to adopt rules of origin. How will he | :30:04. | :30:08. | |
avoid adopting rules of origin unless we are in a custom union | :30:09. | :30:12. | |
relationship with the EU? I have said on a number of occasions we | :30:13. | :30:17. | |
should leave being any union on the table. -- being in a customs union. | :30:18. | :30:30. | |
What the Government has done is to sweep these options off the table | :30:31. | :30:35. | |
without evidence, without facts, without assessing the risks. I have | :30:36. | :30:40. | |
said, and we have said, what you do is focus on the outcomes. One of the | :30:41. | :30:46. | |
best ways to achieve tariff free access is to have a customs union on | :30:47. | :30:54. | |
the table. That brings me... I am going to press on because that | :30:55. | :31:02. | |
brings me... I apologise for interrupting his flow but the reader | :31:03. | :31:05. | |
of his party said a couple of hours ago in this house that he wanted to | :31:06. | :31:10. | |
strike free trade deals around the world. How is that possible when you | :31:11. | :31:13. | |
remain you member of the customs union? The Secretary of State knows | :31:14. | :31:20. | |
very well what I said and I said it carefully. | :31:21. | :31:25. | |
LAUGHTER I am not sure how I respond. I am | :31:26. | :31:37. | |
not sure what all the hilarity is. I think it should be debated in a | :31:38. | :31:44. | |
serious manner. I am just considering how I respond to a cry | :31:45. | :31:50. | |
of chaos from a Government that two months ago had a majority, now has a | :31:51. | :31:55. | |
minority and is going into a grubby deal with the DUP. We focus on | :31:56. | :32:01. | |
retaining the benefits of the single market and the customs union. The | :32:02. | :32:08. | |
same benefits as the customs union, the phrase he used. I am | :32:09. | :32:13. | |
transferring the question. He said the same benefits of the customs | :32:14. | :32:18. | |
union. -- and bring the question. How is that to be achieved? You did. | :32:19. | :32:25. | |
We put it to you several times since. My answer was not a fixed | :32:26. | :32:33. | |
position that we must have this model. My answer is, focus on the | :32:34. | :32:40. | |
outcomes and leave options on the agreement until we have some | :32:41. | :32:45. | |
assessment of the risk and cost of the different option? One thing we | :32:46. | :32:49. | |
do not have is an assessment of the risk and cost. I am going to press | :32:50. | :32:55. | |
on and deal with transitional agreements. It would be a good | :32:56. | :33:04. | |
start... Order. I am not sure what part of the words I am going to | :33:05. | :33:10. | |
press an honourable members do not understand. He has made it clear | :33:11. | :33:15. | |
that he intends to press on. That should be respected until such time | :33:16. | :33:24. | |
as he changes his mind. If we are to meet the exact same benefits of the | :33:25. | :33:28. | |
single market and customs union, it would be a good start if the | :33:29. | :33:32. | |
Government accepts that the associations would not be complete | :33:33. | :33:38. | |
by March 2019, the transitional arrangements will be needed if we | :33:39. | :33:41. | |
are to avoid the cliff edge and that arrangements must safeguard our | :33:42. | :33:48. | |
economy. It also means that by the time of the file agreement at the | :33:49. | :33:52. | |
end of transitional arrangements, a model or framework will have to have | :33:53. | :33:58. | |
been agreed that truly does deliver the exact same benefits as a single | :33:59. | :34:03. | |
market and the customs union. Along with the recognition, if we're being | :34:04. | :34:07. | |
honest, that in the end if we are going to have a meaningful and | :34:08. | :34:15. | |
ongoing relationship, the court like body will be needed to settle | :34:16. | :34:20. | |
disputes. This is not just state to state disputes, we need a court like | :34:21. | :34:26. | |
body to settle business disputes and individual disputes. There is a | :34:27. | :34:32. | |
further issue on reset. That is the involvement of Parliament. For the | :34:33. | :34:36. | |
first six months after the referendum, the Government fought in | :34:37. | :34:41. | |
the court to prevent this house having a say even on the trickling | :34:42. | :34:48. | |
of Article 50. The then called a general election. That has to | :34:49. | :34:53. | |
change. There must be a stronger role for Parliament. We need to | :34:54. | :34:56. | |
strengthen scrutiny and accountability and not push it away. | :34:57. | :35:02. | |
Can we start in this way? I hope it will be agreed. This house needs a | :35:03. | :35:06. | |
statement from the Secretary of State after each round of | :35:07. | :35:10. | |
negotiations, a formal statement, so that we can see how he reports on | :35:11. | :35:15. | |
progress and asks questions. I would ask him to set that President now | :35:16. | :35:20. | |
and agree that he will come to the House and report on a formal | :35:21. | :35:26. | |
statement. -- precedent. The answer is, yes. We did not do it today | :35:27. | :35:31. | |
because we had a statement on the same subject and I was hoping a | :35:32. | :35:37. | |
whole day's debate on it now. The answer is, yes. I understand the | :35:38. | :35:41. | |
point he makes about today and we had a discussion earlier. I am | :35:42. | :35:45. | |
grateful he will set that for future rounds, the date we now know to come | :35:46. | :35:50. | |
back to this house and make a statement so we can debate it and | :35:51. | :35:53. | |
question him here. Let me turn to the repeal Bill. We do recognise the | :35:54. | :36:01. | |
need to entrench EU writes in our class. I said that when the white | :36:02. | :36:05. | |
paper was published and I say it again now. In our manifesto we had | :36:06. | :36:11. | |
the EU rights and protection Bill. How it is done matters. As proposed, | :36:12. | :36:22. | |
the repeal Bill would contain sweeping powers without safeguards. | :36:23. | :36:27. | |
The instrument procedure has no enhanced safeguard. That is far too | :36:28. | :36:30. | |
sweeping to be accepted across this house. There is the potential... I | :36:31. | :36:39. | |
take him at his word when he says there will be no limitation, | :36:40. | :36:44. | |
qualification or sunset clauses. I hope that message is getting through | :36:45. | :36:48. | |
to his backbenchers. Many of them campaigned to leave the EU on the | :36:49. | :36:55. | |
very basis that these rights should not exist or be much reduced or. I | :36:56. | :36:59. | |
look forward to seeing a strong three line whip through this Bill, | :37:00. | :37:05. | |
making sure there are no limitations, no limitations, no | :37:06. | :37:06. | |
qualifications and no sunset clauses. The repeal Bill does not | :37:07. | :37:12. | |
include the Charter of fundamental rights. I hear what he says about | :37:13. | :37:18. | |
that. Nor does it include future proofing to ensure we do not fall | :37:19. | :37:23. | |
behind our Aung San Suu Kyi partners, particularly in the | :37:24. | :37:30. | |
workplace. -- EU partners. There is no detail because no agreement can | :37:31. | :37:33. | |
be made about what to put in them. The Prime Minister called a general | :37:34. | :37:39. | |
collection saying it would provide certainty and stability as we enter | :37:40. | :37:43. | |
the Brexit negotiations. Nothing could be further from the truth. We | :37:44. | :37:48. | |
need a deal and he deal that works. We have started the negotiations in | :37:49. | :37:52. | |
the worst of circumstances. Britain deserves better from that. Thank | :37:53. | :38:04. | |
you. Order. Before we move on to the next speech, can I announced to | :38:05. | :38:09. | |
begin with there will be an eight minute limit on backbench speeches. | :38:10. | :38:16. | |
That may be reduced still further later in the debate. Thank you. | :38:17. | :38:24. | |
Where I agree with the Right honourable gentleman is that the | :38:25. | :38:31. | |
decision that was taken just over one year ago was the most momentous | :38:32. | :38:36. | |
decision taken in my lifetime and will have profound consequences for | :38:37. | :38:40. | |
this country. It is essential that we try and get the best possible | :38:41. | :38:47. | |
deal. Unlike him, I campaigned in favour of either leave vote and I | :38:48. | :38:50. | |
continue to believe that the decision that was taken is in the | :38:51. | :38:56. | |
best interests of this country and it offers opportunities for us, both | :38:57. | :39:03. | |
to reassert the supremacy of Parliament, to become an independent | :39:04. | :39:06. | |
self-governing nation again but also to take advantages of the | :39:07. | :39:10. | |
opportunities that are opening up to us around the world. Many of the | :39:11. | :39:17. | |
detailed issues will be responsibility to negotiate in the | :39:18. | :39:23. | |
talks that are just beginning. I do not agree with the right honourable | :39:24. | :39:32. | |
gentleman that no deal is societally worse than what ever bad deal we may | :39:33. | :39:40. | |
get. -- necessarily worse. Stating we may not reach a deal, that is a | :39:41. | :39:46. | |
guarantee of not getting the best outcome. I do not want to spend too | :39:47. | :39:51. | |
much time on the negotiations. I hope if I am successful of rejoining | :39:52. | :39:59. | |
the select committee, if the chairman is chosen, we will be | :40:00. | :40:02. | |
seeing a great deal of the Secretary of State. I want to look at some of | :40:03. | :40:06. | |
the opportunities that will come from the decision. They are set out | :40:07. | :40:12. | |
very clearly in the Queen's speech. The first is the repeal Beale. I | :40:13. | :40:18. | |
would have thought everybody in this house would welcome the fact that as | :40:19. | :40:22. | |
we are going to leave the European Union in two years' time, or | :40:23. | :40:27. | |
thereabouts, the repeal Bill will give certainty as it ensures | :40:28. | :40:32. | |
European law will be transferred into British law. It will give us | :40:33. | :40:36. | |
that opportunity to look at our leisure at each of those measures to | :40:37. | :40:41. | |
decide whether or not they are most appropriately framed, whether or not | :40:42. | :40:46. | |
we could reduce the burden or in some instances perhaps even increase | :40:47. | :40:51. | |
the protection if we think that is the right thing to do. The repeal | :40:52. | :40:56. | |
Bill is not necessarily about reducing regulation although there | :40:57. | :41:00. | |
may well be plenty of examples where it is sensible to do so. It is | :41:01. | :41:07. | |
giving us back the control for us to decide for ourselves. The | :41:08. | :41:13. | |
immigration Bill, it will allow us to design our own system determining | :41:14. | :41:16. | |
who we should welcome into this country and who we should say that | :41:17. | :41:21. | |
we simply cannot accommodate given the need to reduce the overall | :41:22. | :41:25. | |
level. It means we can create a system that is fair to all and does | :41:26. | :41:32. | |
not discriminate in favour of EU citizens. We can judge everybody on | :41:33. | :41:37. | |
the basis of what contribution they can make. The agriculture Bill, it | :41:38. | :41:45. | |
will allow us to design a system to support farmers which is tailor-made | :41:46. | :41:48. | |
for the benefit of British agriculture. It is not a one size | :41:49. | :41:54. | |
fits all system which hast to accommodate Greek growers as much as | :41:55. | :42:00. | |
wheat farmers in Essex. I hope we will be able to deliver more support | :42:01. | :42:04. | |
for British farming at a cheaper price, since we will not having to | :42:05. | :42:09. | |
be sending the money to Brussels to have it judged and we cycled and | :42:10. | :42:11. | |
sent back to us afterwards. You agree that the common | :42:12. | :42:21. | |
agricultural policy is one of the most environmentally destructive | :42:22. | :42:31. | |
pieces are policy. As the dish out that quantities of taxpayer funds to | :42:32. | :42:35. | |
landowners, we need something in return. One of those things will be | :42:36. | :42:40. | |
biodiversity and general benefits for our natural environment? There | :42:41. | :42:49. | |
are 37 speakers and there are a number of people waiting to make | :42:50. | :42:54. | |
their maiden speeches. The more interventions we have, we were down | :42:55. | :43:01. | |
-- we will be down to three or four minutes. Please reduced the number | :43:02. | :43:12. | |
of interventions. I agree with my honourable friend who I am delighted | :43:13. | :43:18. | |
to see back in this place. British farming is already doing a great | :43:19. | :43:20. | |
deal to support the environment. In designing a new system of support, | :43:21. | :43:26. | |
we should emphasise that farmers need to be rewarded for what they | :43:27. | :43:29. | |
are doing to conserve the landscape for future generations. Similarly | :43:30. | :43:36. | |
fisheries Bill that allows us to put right a wrong that was done | :43:37. | :43:39. | |
something like 40 years ago. Many fishermen in this country felt they | :43:40. | :43:46. | |
were sold out when we joined the European Union as the price we had | :43:47. | :43:49. | |
to pay for membership. This goes some way to take back that's right | :43:50. | :43:52. | |
and restore traditional fishing rights. The trade Bill allows us to | :43:53. | :43:57. | |
reach new agreements with the countries which offer the greatest | :43:58. | :44:02. | |
opportunities, that are experiencing the fastest growth. Where there is | :44:03. | :44:08. | |
the most likely demand for British exports and goods. Their coincidence | :44:09. | :44:13. | |
that there is no European trade deal with China, India, Australia, | :44:14. | :44:18. | |
Brazil, New Zealand, the United States and yet those countries want | :44:19. | :44:23. | |
to do business with us, trade with us, and that gives us the | :44:24. | :44:30. | |
opportunity to do so. In this debate about hard versus soft, it is a | :44:31. | :44:36. | |
fiction. Soft Brexit does not exist. That apparently means remaining in | :44:37. | :44:39. | |
the single market and the customs union. That means we will not be | :44:40. | :44:46. | |
able to set our own immigration policy, our own trade policy, still | :44:47. | :44:50. | |
be subject to the European Court of Justice. Frankly, soft Brexit is | :44:51. | :44:59. | |
worse than remaining. The reasons we wanted to leave the European Unions | :45:00. | :45:04. | |
are no longer to be a member of either the single market or the | :45:05. | :45:13. | |
customs market. I support the approach taken. One are two other | :45:14. | :45:22. | |
matters. I am pleased to see the Foreign Secretary in his place. He | :45:23. | :45:26. | |
may now I take no long-standing interest in the -- I take an | :45:27. | :45:31. | |
interest in the events of the Ukraine. I am delighted he will meet | :45:32. | :45:35. | |
the banister of Ukraine last week. Ukraine may have passed out of the | :45:36. | :45:40. | |
headlines but the conflict going on in that country are still raging. | :45:41. | :45:46. | |
2700 troops have died since 2014 and daily 10,000 wounded. This is a | :45:47. | :45:54. | |
country -- nearly 10,000 wounded. It is still in continental Europe, | :45:55. | :46:02. | |
Crimea still has Russian troops. Another part supported by Russia is | :46:03. | :46:07. | |
waging war. We support the process to try and put that right but we | :46:08. | :46:10. | |
have a responsibility as one of the original signatories of the Budapest | :46:11. | :46:16. | |
memorandum which guaranteed the territorial integrity of Ukraine, so | :46:17. | :46:22. | |
we welcome the attention that I know my right honourable friend is | :46:23. | :46:25. | |
painted it and I think people take the opportunity next week to express | :46:26. | :46:30. | |
the firm support of the British Government for the people of the | :46:31. | :46:35. | |
Ukraine. I want to touch on quickly, I welcome the counterterrorism | :46:36. | :46:39. | |
review that has been initiated. But I want to highlight something I hope | :46:40. | :46:45. | |
they will talk to the attention... We saw Hezbollah flags in the rally. | :46:46. | :47:13. | |
It is a terrorist organisation. Given the distress that was caused | :47:14. | :47:18. | |
by seeing the flags paraded through London and people calling for the | :47:19. | :47:22. | |
extermination of Israel, and in support of what is a terrorist | :47:23. | :47:25. | |
organisation, I hope the Home Secretary will look at that matter | :47:26. | :47:34. | |
urgently. I start on a European team. I think that is appropriate. | :47:35. | :47:39. | |
When the Prime Minister called this election, she did so because she was | :47:40. | :47:45. | |
concerned with the opposition to our ideas and future relationship with | :47:46. | :47:54. | |
Europe. The response was that the politics of this place would be more | :47:55. | :47:57. | |
European, no majority and parties working together is, in other | :47:58. | :48:04. | |
European countries. That is one we welcome. At long last, this place | :48:05. | :48:12. | |
seems to be catching on to minority Government such as Cardiff and | :48:13. | :48:22. | |
Edinburgh. No party in this House, not least mine or others, has a | :48:23. | :48:26. | |
majority of wisdom or all of the good ideas. Big decisions will be | :48:27. | :48:31. | |
made that impact on all of us and are the responsibility of this | :48:32. | :48:35. | |
prize, devolved administrations and local government as well. It is | :48:36. | :48:42. | |
something I have said before, democracy no longer begins and ends | :48:43. | :48:44. | |
year and no longer should decision-making. I welcome a LCM. I | :48:45. | :48:56. | |
do not expect the devolved administration should give this | :48:57. | :48:58. | |
Government a blank cheque and they should not expect that either. There | :48:59. | :49:05. | |
are only two parties in this Parliament who won a majority of the | :49:06. | :49:09. | |
seat in which they stood at the election. The DUP won a majority. | :49:10. | :49:19. | |
And the SNP won a majority. And I hope that they will be listened to | :49:20. | :49:25. | |
in equal measures in these issues, Mr Deputy Speaker. In spite of our | :49:26. | :49:31. | |
clear mandate, we are prepared to listen and work with other parties. | :49:32. | :49:36. | |
We are prepared to listen and work with other parties. I also recognise | :49:37. | :49:42. | |
the loss of some of our finest parliamentarians in the last General | :49:43. | :49:48. | |
Election. Angus Robertson, the Labour benches could learn a thing | :49:49. | :49:52. | |
or two about providing effective opposition to that lot. He was a | :49:53. | :49:58. | |
parliamentarian who managed to show up the Prime Minister long before | :49:59. | :50:01. | |
the Labour Party managed to do so. And Alex Salmond is a political | :50:02. | :50:07. | |
giant and one of the few parliamentarians here with extensive | :50:08. | :50:15. | |
experience of minority Government. The UK Government may wish to | :50:16. | :50:18. | |
reflect that the former First Minister that a Government for a | :50:19. | :50:23. | |
full-time, passing historic measures on free education, world beating | :50:24. | :50:28. | |
climate change measures and universe -- universal services that remains | :50:29. | :50:40. | |
the envy of the UK with just... We stand on the shoulder of Jones. -- | :50:41. | :50:49. | |
of giants. That includes Gordon Wilson who passed away yesterday. | :50:50. | :50:56. | |
Some of the Chamber seem to coin a majority of Scottish seats in | :50:57. | :51:00. | |
something of a failure that our former leader sat in a group of two. | :51:01. | :51:10. | |
We on these benches owe him a huge debt of gratitude and our thoughts | :51:11. | :51:15. | |
are with his wife Edith and him at this moment. Given the dynamics of | :51:16. | :51:20. | |
parliament, the SNP group will use its position to work with others | :51:21. | :51:24. | |
where we can and that will be especially important in terms of our | :51:25. | :51:34. | |
future relationship with Europe. The importance... It is abundantly clear | :51:35. | :51:38. | |
that this Government does not have all the governments on our future | :51:39. | :51:43. | |
relationship with Europe. They have taking up a whole lot of nothing. | :51:44. | :51:50. | |
Not much in the wake of progress. The talks I am afraid to say have | :51:51. | :51:56. | |
not gotten off to the best of starts as the Labour spokesperson alluded | :51:57. | :52:00. | |
to earlier on. The Secretary of State for leaving the European Union | :52:01. | :52:04. | |
promised us the row of the summer over whether trade talks should... | :52:05. | :52:11. | |
That turned into the Sound of silence. The new quiet man of | :52:12. | :52:18. | |
Conservative Party politics. It would be comical if it were not so | :52:19. | :52:22. | |
serious. The whole of this Government has to have some | :52:23. | :52:26. | |
culpability in the vacuum that has been let in terms of our | :52:27. | :52:29. | |
relationship with Europe. None more so than the Foreign Secretary who | :52:30. | :52:34. | |
sat at the heart of the league campaign and has spent a year in the | :52:35. | :52:39. | |
Foreign Secretary's Jack getting us not much more detail than we had | :52:40. | :52:42. | |
previously. Minority administration means all of us, not least across | :52:43. | :52:49. | |
these benches, with an opportunity. Can I pay credit to my colleagues | :52:50. | :52:57. | |
across the political divide to perform at the moment in my name and | :52:58. | :53:01. | |
other colleagues including Brighton Pavilion and Cardiff South, we will | :53:02. | :53:06. | |
not agree on everything but where we can, we should try and come | :53:07. | :53:10. | |
together. We agree that we should try and retain our membership of the | :53:11. | :53:14. | |
single market and the customs union as well as providing a role for | :53:15. | :53:17. | |
devolved administrations and security for EU nationals that | :53:18. | :53:20. | |
frankly they deserve and we should have given them long before now. | :53:21. | :53:25. | |
This respect the referendum result. In fact, just after the EU | :53:26. | :53:30. | |
referendum in July of last year, the Secretary of State for Scotland | :53:31. | :53:33. | |
himself argued that, my role is to ensure that Scotland gets the best | :53:34. | :53:37. | |
possible deal and that too clearly involves being part of the single | :53:38. | :53:41. | |
market. The Secretary of State for Scotland, no less. A narrow win for | :53:42. | :53:52. | |
the referendum fondly. But there was a rejection of the hard Tory Brexit. | :53:53. | :53:57. | |
Where we can come together, we should do so. This has to be a | :53:58. | :54:09. | |
4-macro nation cross-party and cross institutional approach. That is the | :54:10. | :54:12. | |
clear mandate we have been given from across the UK. It is important | :54:13. | :54:18. | |
that the Government does not turn the Great Repeal Bill or rather the | :54:19. | :54:23. | |
repeal Bill, into grabbing demolition. -- revolution. What ever | :54:24. | :54:30. | |
happened to the death I am a passionate pro-European and | :54:31. | :54:49. | |
our relationship with the EU is one that gave me many opportunities. It | :54:50. | :54:56. | |
is made us all safer, healthier, wealthier and the UK's departure is | :54:57. | :55:02. | |
back is for our EU partners but worse news for us in the United | :55:03. | :55:08. | |
Kingdom. I see the Member for Stratford-upon-Avon is in his post. | :55:09. | :55:14. | |
It is was found that over no deal would be bad for our European | :55:15. | :55:18. | |
partners, it would be worse for the United Kingdom, we collectively came | :55:19. | :55:21. | |
to that conclusion. In terms of compromise, I will give way... | :55:22. | :55:29. | |
Precisely what was said, there would be mutually assured damage if there | :55:30. | :55:34. | |
was no date. In absolute terms, the damage would probably be greater to | :55:35. | :55:38. | |
the 27th 19 us because that is where the balance of trade and money | :55:39. | :55:43. | |
flows. In a relative sense, the damage would be greater to the | :55:44. | :55:52. | |
United Kingdom. I would like to think the former Chair of the | :55:53. | :55:55. | |
foreign affairs Select Committee for that. This will be damaging for the | :55:56. | :56:02. | |
UK that is clear. It is damage we are impacting on ourselves and | :56:03. | :56:06. | |
something we can do something about. We are willing to compromise. The | :56:07. | :56:12. | |
Scottish Government's publication, Scotland's place in Europe, provided | :56:13. | :56:17. | |
a Medway option. Despite the fact that Scotland and my constituents | :56:18. | :56:20. | |
voted overwhelmingly to remain part of the European Union, I think this | :56:21. | :56:26. | |
shows the way we have to go. I could touch briefly on a couple of other | :56:27. | :56:30. | |
issues apart from Europe. We are currently undergoing the worst | :56:31. | :56:34. | |
refugee crisis in European terms. Global displacement now stands at | :56:35. | :56:37. | |
almost 60 million. The highest ever level. UK foreign policy has to bear | :56:38. | :56:43. | |
some responsibility. I am sure the fund | :56:44. | :56:49. | |
we had those fleeing from conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as | :56:50. | :56:55. | |
the open door that is the failed state in Libya. In Syriac, closely | :56:56. | :57:00. | |
linked to the refugee crisis, we have got a clear strategy. -- in | :57:01. | :57:13. | |
Syria. We must limit arms sales. In terms of Russia, we have to continue | :57:14. | :57:16. | |
to work with our European partners. Not least in its actions in Ukraine | :57:17. | :57:23. | |
and elsewhere. I am grateful to him for raising these points. | :57:24. | :57:34. | |
Does he share my concern about some of the language of the Conservative | :57:35. | :57:42. | |
manifesto, saying we can redefine aide to spend it on what ever they | :57:43. | :57:46. | |
want? He makes an excellent point. We will seek to build on the good | :57:47. | :57:52. | |
work that was done for the member for Glasgow North, especially with | :57:53. | :57:58. | |
reference to the percentage. That is something the Foreign Secretary will | :57:59. | :58:03. | |
perhaps rage. I would make an appeal that we continue to work together. | :58:04. | :58:10. | |
Our European neighbours remain our closest partners, economically, | :58:11. | :58:12. | |
culturally and politically. That reality needs to start seeping in. | :58:13. | :58:19. | |
We will work as constructively as we can with colleagues in other parties | :58:20. | :58:23. | |
but there must be an openness and willingness to do so. I am grateful | :58:24. | :58:35. | |
for being called so early on in this debate. It is a pleasure to carry | :58:36. | :58:41. | |
on. I enjoyed listening to the spirit in which he gave the speech | :58:42. | :58:46. | |
and that call for pragmatic working together is a theme that all members | :58:47. | :58:50. | |
this evening will be returning to and that informs some of the remarks | :58:51. | :58:56. | |
I want to make in the next minutes. Over the last 11 or 12 months I have | :58:57. | :59:00. | |
not taken many of the opportunities that we have in this house to speak | :59:01. | :59:06. | |
about Britain's withdrawal from the European Union, in part because I | :59:07. | :59:10. | |
was one of those people who campaigned strongly forbidden to | :59:11. | :59:13. | |
remain in the European Union. Assignments are part of the | :59:14. | :59:19. | |
minority, and certainly in my constituency which was quite | :59:20. | :59:24. | |
strongly for coming out, I was in minority of opinion. I have been | :59:25. | :59:27. | |
trying to spend the last year what was driving that vote in my | :59:28. | :59:32. | |
constituency in Wales and understanding how that debate is | :59:33. | :59:35. | |
evil thing. One or two observations I would make, have been impressed. | :59:36. | :59:47. | |
-- how that debate is evolving. The pragmatic tone which she has struck | :59:48. | :59:53. | |
has been appreciated on both parts of the Chamber and people on the | :59:54. | :59:59. | |
continent tell me that it is deeply valued in Europe. Listening to his | :00:00. | :00:06. | |
remarks and listening to the right honourable shadow Secretary of | :00:07. | :00:10. | |
State, what strikes me of both of their positions as the measure of | :00:11. | :00:15. | |
room for manoeuvre that exists in both of their positions. That might | :00:16. | :00:21. | |
reflect different shades of opinion that exists within the Government | :00:22. | :00:27. | |
and certainly the opposition about how we want to take forward the | :00:28. | :00:32. | |
Brexit negotiations. I think also that measure of fluidity reflects | :00:33. | :00:36. | |
the level of pragmatism that exists and listening to them both, the | :00:37. | :00:43. | |
question I was asking myself is, is there a pragmatic centre ground that | :00:44. | :00:49. | |
is emerging here that people on this side of the House, the opposite side | :00:50. | :00:54. | |
of the House can come around? One of the things I took from the general | :00:55. | :00:58. | |
election campaign is that the country remains divided on this | :00:59. | :01:02. | |
issue. If we are to do anything in the next two years in this Chamber, | :01:03. | :01:07. | |
we should be able to provide some kind of leadership that helps bring | :01:08. | :01:12. | |
the country together on this issue. No tariffs, the best possible access | :01:13. | :01:19. | |
to the single market is not the truth but there is difference | :01:20. | :01:24. | |
between the priorities between both front benches. Does he agree with me | :01:25. | :01:28. | |
that it would help our constituents and negotiators if all parties would | :01:29. | :01:36. | |
make that clear? I do appeal again to the House. The more interventions | :01:37. | :01:40. | |
there are, the less time there will be for the very long list of | :01:41. | :01:45. | |
speakers and for those wishing to make their maiden speeches. I am | :01:46. | :01:48. | |
grateful to my honourable friend permitting that intervention because | :01:49. | :01:52. | |
I was going on to make the point that what struck me was how similar | :01:53. | :01:58. | |
the strategic objectives actually are. You have the outlines emerging | :01:59. | :02:04. | |
of what am I hope will be a pragmatic and sensible deal that | :02:05. | :02:08. | |
will command widespread support in the country. I think both parties, | :02:09. | :02:14. | |
Government and the opposition, are united in wanting to prioritise jobs | :02:15. | :02:19. | |
and prosperity and to protect living standards of workers and to project | :02:20. | :02:28. | |
-- protect our business community. I think getting to that point, an | :02:29. | :02:33. | |
outcome that delivers on that, will require more direct honesty about | :02:34. | :02:37. | |
some of the trade-offs that need to be made. Very briefly, I spoke about | :02:38. | :02:44. | |
this in a newspaper article, one of the trade of Sweeney to be far more | :02:45. | :02:50. | |
honest about the trade-off between maximising access to the single | :02:51. | :02:55. | |
market, not the same thing as retaining membership, but maximising | :02:56. | :03:00. | |
our access so we can enjoy as much of the benefits that we currently | :03:01. | :03:06. | |
enjoy at the moment. It requires trade off on the posture we adopt to | :03:07. | :03:11. | |
future EU workers who may want to come into this country. We had a | :03:12. | :03:16. | |
good discussion earlier today about the offer being made to EU citizens | :03:17. | :03:23. | |
currently living here and we debated that at some length. Despite the | :03:24. | :03:26. | |
acknowledgement that there are clearly details that need to be | :03:27. | :03:32. | |
resolved, the point needs to be made that you have the outlines of a deal | :03:33. | :03:36. | |
that will be made with the European union. It is a big step forward to | :03:37. | :03:43. | |
doing that. The spirit of generosity that has informed the offer that was | :03:44. | :03:47. | |
being debated today, if we carry that Sainsbury and forward into how | :03:48. | :03:57. | |
we negotiate the position of future EU workers, if we adopt that spirit | :03:58. | :04:03. | |
and keeping an eye on the economic importance of people coming from | :04:04. | :04:07. | |
overseas to work in this country, then I think there is a deal to be | :04:08. | :04:11. | |
done around that that gives us a good chance of maximising access to | :04:12. | :04:19. | |
the single market and protecting our interest as much as possible. I have | :04:20. | :04:24. | |
looked at different economic sectors and asked myself the question, which | :04:25. | :04:30. | |
group of EU workers here in this economic sector, the NHS or the Road | :04:31. | :04:36. | |
haulage industry, the food sector, should be here in a post-Brexit | :04:37. | :04:41. | |
scenario. The truth is you cannot put your finger on any group | :04:42. | :04:46. | |
currently here contributing to our economy that we would say, it would | :04:47. | :04:54. | |
be better if they were not here and we should be designing a Brexit to | :04:55. | :04:59. | |
stop them coming in. I think by focusing on our economic interests, | :05:00. | :05:03. | |
by being honest with the public and I think there is a challenge on my | :05:04. | :05:08. | |
side of the House to debate this with our constituents any more | :05:09. | :05:11. | |
direct and honest way and we have been willing to do in recent years, | :05:12. | :05:16. | |
I think we can move some of that opinion in the country that | :05:17. | :05:21. | |
undoubtably went for the Brexit option one year ago because they | :05:22. | :05:25. | |
thought that is your change button for reducing immigration, and I | :05:26. | :05:29. | |
think the truth is it is not and we need to be honest about that. I will | :05:30. | :05:34. | |
wrap up now and let other people to have a fair chance of speaking. I am | :05:35. | :05:40. | |
optimistic listening to the Secretary of State and listening to | :05:41. | :05:44. | |
the shadow Secretary of State that there is a pragmatic and sensible | :05:45. | :05:49. | |
centre ground that can emerge that we can coalesce around that will | :05:50. | :05:52. | |
command the support of the business community that believe their voice | :05:53. | :05:59. | |
needs to be listened to. Can command the support of trade unions and be | :06:00. | :06:04. | |
assured British workers and give us the best possible chance of | :06:05. | :06:08. | |
enhancing our prosperity and not diminishing it in the years ahead. | :06:09. | :06:14. | |
The Secretary of State was characteristically confident about | :06:15. | :06:18. | |
the Brexit negotiations when he spoke but I think you would | :06:19. | :06:22. | |
recognise the things are rather different now. The Prime Minister is | :06:23. | :06:30. | |
weaker than she expected to be, the EU is stronger than many people | :06:31. | :06:36. | |
thought it would be and it reminded all of us who is in control of these | :06:37. | :06:43. | |
negotiations as we listen to the ever consistent ticking of the | :06:44. | :06:50. | |
Article 50 clock. In her speech, the Prime Minister promised she would | :06:51. | :06:55. | |
seek and a court, to build a wide consensus on Brexit. The words sound | :06:56. | :07:00. | |
good. Our divided nation does need to come together on this great | :07:01. | :07:05. | |
matter. Let's be frank, the last 12 months have been spent doing | :07:06. | :07:11. | |
anything but forging a consensus. Quite the contrary. We had no idea | :07:12. | :07:19. | |
of the negotiation objectives. There was resistant to the need for a | :07:20. | :07:24. | |
transitional arrangement, although now almost everyone recognises that | :07:25. | :07:29. | |
these will be necessary. There was an initial reluctance to concede | :07:30. | :07:32. | |
that Parliament will have the final say on any deal. I would like to | :07:33. | :07:38. | |
think that this new commitment is because Ministers have reflected on | :07:39. | :07:41. | |
their behaviour and listened, but I suspect it has more to do with the | :07:42. | :07:44. | |
outcome of the journal collection and the chaos that has ensued. -- | :07:45. | :07:54. | |
the general election. I cannot understand why we continue to shear | :07:55. | :07:58. | |
this argument that the Government would be prepared to leave the EU | :07:59. | :08:03. | |
without a deal when we now know that the Chancellor of the does not agree | :08:04. | :08:08. | |
with that proposition because he made that clear in his interview one | :08:09. | :08:14. | |
week ago when he talked about leaving with no Deal is a very, very | :08:15. | :08:19. | |
bad outcome for Britain. He is right. I generally stayed to | :08:20. | :08:24. | |
Ministers that the chances of this Parliament leaving without a deal | :08:25. | :08:30. | |
have melted away along with the Government majority. The question is | :08:31. | :08:37. | |
how can this consensus be built? I echo what the honourable member said | :08:38. | :08:42. | |
one minute ago. I welcome the greater detail that has been | :08:43. | :08:46. | |
announced today on EU nationals, although there are still questions | :08:47. | :08:51. | |
at the family affected are going to need answer to, including what this | :08:52. | :08:54. | |
system is going to look like, the cut of date and have family members | :08:55. | :08:59. | |
can join them. The Prime Minister did say earlier that after the UK | :09:00. | :09:05. | |
has left the European Union, EU status with settled status can bring | :09:06. | :09:11. | |
family members on the same terms as British nationals. Can the Foreign | :09:12. | :09:14. | |
Secretary confirmed that in such cases, after March 2019, this will | :09:15. | :09:22. | |
involve meeting and income threshold because that is what British | :09:23. | :09:26. | |
citizens face currently. On the oversight of these arrangements and | :09:27. | :09:31. | |
the rights of UK nationals, which we must protect, I think the court made | :09:32. | :09:36. | |
up of UK and European judges would be a sensible way forward. Let us be | :09:37. | :09:41. | |
clear, this is meant to be the issue that will be the simple list to be | :09:42. | :09:46. | |
sorted out at the start of the negotiations. There are so many | :09:47. | :09:53. | |
questions important to our economy, country, our trading with the UK and | :09:54. | :09:56. | |
access to the single market, how we would ensure we will have the skills | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
we need for economic growth and public services and tax revenue that | :10:02. | :10:06. | |
we need to pay for those services and the future cooperation of | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
foreign policy, defence, security, the fight against terrorism and | :10:11. | :10:16. | |
science and research, which I do not understand the reluctance to simply | :10:17. | :10:20. | |
say that they wish to remain part of the programme. Giving that the | :10:21. | :10:27. | |
central aim and this side of the House is to remain tariff and | :10:28. | :10:33. | |
barrier free trade, I do not understand where the Government has | :10:34. | :10:38. | |
turned its back on achieving that. This would solve the problem of the | :10:39. | :10:43. | |
border between Northern Ireland and the republic. Perhaps the Government | :10:44. | :10:48. | |
has chosen this path because it knows that in practice Britain is | :10:49. | :10:52. | |
probably going to be remaining a member of the customs union for some | :10:53. | :10:56. | |
time to come. I think the Chancellor's speech gave a very | :10:57. | :11:04. | |
strong indication of this because no one I have met, Ministers apart, | :11:05. | :11:08. | |
believes that negotiating a new agreement is going to be completed | :11:09. | :11:13. | |
between now and next October. The best that we can look to is an | :11:14. | :11:19. | |
agreement in principle and then transitional arrangements that will | :11:20. | :11:23. | |
cover the period from March 2019 to the conclusion of these | :11:24. | :11:27. | |
negotiations. In the meantime, all this uncertainty is profoundly bad | :11:28. | :11:36. | |
for business, confidence, as is talking of leaving with no deal. On | :11:37. | :11:42. | |
the Great Repeal Bill, there is a task that Parliament faces. | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
Ministers need to understand that the House will only enable this to | :11:48. | :11:51. | |
happen as long as it is crystal clear that no attempt will be made | :11:52. | :11:58. | |
to remove or undermine any workers' rights or the environmental | :11:59. | :12:02. | |
standards the British people have come to value. Despite what the | :12:03. | :12:08. | |
Prime Minister said, we have to be honest and recognise there is not | :12:09. | :12:13. | |
currently a consensus on the type of Brexit we should seek. Therefore, | :12:14. | :12:18. | |
the Prime Minister's commitment will have to be given for through the | :12:19. | :12:24. | |
Government's actions. I urge Ministers to have this new approach | :12:25. | :12:29. | |
to the House. I urge Ministers to listen to the voices of the many and | :12:30. | :12:35. | |
not just those who shouted loudest for leave during the referendum. I | :12:36. | :12:39. | |
urge Ministers to be flexible in their approach since we all want | :12:40. | :12:45. | |
free trade. Why do they not leave the prospect of remaining in the | :12:46. | :12:46. | |
custom union on the table? And on and on all and that he is | :12:47. | :13:01. | |
British are a certain that the characteristic honesty. If their | :13:02. | :13:09. | |
confidences misplace, the unhappiness and anger that my right | :13:10. | :13:17. | |
honourable friend 's express so well. They will discover that of the | :13:18. | :13:24. | |
things they were promised failed to materialise. If ministers do all of | :13:25. | :13:32. | |
these things, then we may find a way forward. If they do not. This | :13:33. | :13:38. | |
parliament, be it long or short, is going to be very hard work for them. | :13:39. | :13:46. | |
That is not where we should want to be given the scale of the task that | :13:47. | :13:52. | |
we face as a country as we seek, Olive us, to get the best deal we | :13:53. | :13:56. | |
can on behalf of all of the people who so recently sent us year. I have | :13:57. | :14:05. | |
to drop the time limit to four minutes. Our great country is about | :14:06. | :14:14. | |
to embark on a journey of national self-determination and build our | :14:15. | :14:18. | |
identity as a great trading nation, and Alex looking nation and a nation | :14:19. | :14:21. | |
with every reason to be confident in its future. The Government has | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
rightly rejected staying in the customs union and the single market. | :14:26. | :14:30. | |
That is right. If we are to realise this aspiration of becoming a | :14:31. | :14:35. | |
self-governing, global facing democracy, we cannot remain signed | :14:36. | :14:38. | |
up to the single market are customs union. Contrast that with what we | :14:39. | :14:44. | |
have heard from the Secretary of State, Shadow Secretary of State | :14:45. | :14:47. | |
today. Confusion and an illogical position. Stating that membership of | :14:48. | :14:51. | |
the customs union remains on the table. Contrast that with the shadow | :14:52. | :14:56. | |
Attorney General saying we won't necessarily be able to control our | :14:57. | :15:00. | |
immigration policy. That is what people voted for last year. If | :15:01. | :15:06. | |
Brexit is to mean anything, it must means control of our borders and our | :15:07. | :15:12. | |
immigration policy and our trade. Why has not the customs union served | :15:13. | :15:16. | |
our temperatures? There are four main reasons. Firstly, it has not | :15:17. | :15:22. | |
served our country's trade in jazz. -- trade interests. There is a | :15:23. | :15:30. | |
laughable record for securing trade agreements in the EU with other | :15:31. | :15:35. | |
parts of the world. A growing deficit from ?12 billion to ?71 | :15:36. | :15:39. | |
billion since 1999 contrast that with a growing trade surplus with | :15:40. | :15:46. | |
the rest of the world. Growing from deficit of ?4 billion in 1999 to a | :15:47. | :15:52. | |
surplus of ?44 billion in 2016. That represents an amazing opportunity | :15:53. | :15:56. | |
for our country to forge trade links with the rest of the world rather | :15:57. | :16:01. | |
than being reliant on the declining markets of the EU. Secondly, we are | :16:02. | :16:05. | |
only going to be able to strike new trade deals as long as we are out of | :16:06. | :16:10. | |
the customs union. The alternative is impossible. That is because of | :16:11. | :16:15. | |
the common commercial policy that binds all of its members. When the | :16:16. | :16:19. | |
Labour manifesto says it wants to work with global trading partners to | :16:20. | :16:24. | |
develop best in class free trade and investment rumours that remove trade | :16:25. | :16:28. | |
barriers and promote skill jobs and high standards, that is simply not | :16:29. | :16:31. | |
possible as long as we are members of the customs union. EU | :16:32. | :16:40. | |
protectionism damages and harms our British consumers. We are denied | :16:41. | :16:44. | |
products such as cheaper sugar from developing States because | :16:45. | :16:48. | |
protectionist tariffs favour less efficient farmers in northern | :16:49. | :16:53. | |
Europe. The EU customs union has pushed food" prices are estimated by | :16:54. | :16:57. | |
about ?500 per year for each household. By opening the market, | :16:58. | :17:03. | |
lowering barriers to trade and to entry for new competition, prices | :17:04. | :17:06. | |
will fall and consumers will benefit. That choice and quality | :17:07. | :17:11. | |
will go up as producers no longer will have a captive market or a | :17:12. | :17:17. | |
monopoly. Thirdly, the EU's trade agreements have focused too much | :17:18. | :17:23. | |
goods when 8% of our GDP is services, we need to realign our | :17:24. | :17:27. | |
trade policy. The customs union severely penalises the farmers | :17:28. | :17:35. | |
unions in developing countries. The tariffs are unequal and | :17:36. | :17:38. | |
discriminatory. That is an enemy of fair trade. If we want to support | :17:39. | :17:43. | |
African countries to become more sustainable and industrialised, we | :17:44. | :17:47. | |
can develop most opportunities to support them. In conclusion, Brexit | :17:48. | :17:51. | |
is not a crisis to manage as the other side would have us belief was | :17:52. | :17:57. | |
that it is a golden opportunity to seize and I am for them to get | :17:58. | :18:01. | |
behind the Government and support Brexit in all its forms. This | :18:02. | :18:07. | |
Queen's Speech is not a plan for a couple met at the height of its | :18:08. | :18:10. | |
powers with the refreshed mandate. It is a legislative programme for a | :18:11. | :18:15. | |
Government in a holding pattern. A Government led by a isolated and | :18:16. | :18:20. | |
humiliated Prime Minister. Shorn of higher authority after a bruising | :18:21. | :18:25. | |
encounter by the electorate in an election she chose to call three | :18:26. | :18:30. | |
years early. A test she flunked spectacularly, hobbling her | :18:31. | :18:33. | |
premiership and weakening rather than strengthening her hand in the | :18:34. | :18:40. | |
EU negotiations. Far from gaining the landslide victory which the | :18:41. | :18:43. | |
polls indicated would be hers when she called the election, the Prime | :18:44. | :18:48. | |
Minister has managed to turn the Tory majority into a hung | :18:49. | :18:53. | |
parliament. Hurt much fun to do with the DUP has only just been concluded | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
in any neck uptime 18 days after the General Election. Meanwhile, number | :18:58. | :19:05. | |
ten is beginning to resemble the Marie Celeste. Anyone who doubts the | :19:06. | :19:10. | |
truth of the predicament for the Prime Minister only has to peruse at | :19:11. | :19:16. | |
the weekend from pages to see the jockeying for position which has | :19:17. | :19:19. | |
already begun in this week and wobbly administration. This is a | :19:20. | :19:25. | |
programme more divine by what was missed out on what it contains. My | :19:26. | :19:33. | |
honourable... The Tory election manifesto had disappeared in its | :19:34. | :19:40. | |
entirety from the website. This gives us an insight into the real | :19:41. | :19:44. | |
motivation for the Government introducing a new right to be | :19:45. | :19:48. | |
forgotten in the data protection Bill. There is no mention of the | :19:49. | :19:53. | |
triple lock on pensions, no mention of the abolition of Winter Fuel | :19:54. | :19:57. | |
Payments. The Prime Minister's highly divisive pet project | :19:58. | :20:01. | |
introducing grammar schools is not referred to nor is the possibility | :20:02. | :20:05. | |
of allowing a free vote on fox hunting any time soon. The dementia | :20:06. | :20:11. | |
tax proposals have gone, police cuts have gone as well. Mr Deputy | :20:12. | :20:16. | |
Speaker, the election result destroyed any mandate for a extreme | :20:17. | :20:22. | |
Brexit. Parties holding extreme positions on Brexit, where the Ukip | :20:23. | :20:26. | |
or the Liberal Democrats, were rejected in fact it with. For the | :20:27. | :20:30. | |
first time in decades, the Tories and Labour together comprise 80% of | :20:31. | :20:36. | |
the votes. There is no appetite for the heart Brexit which the parameter | :20:37. | :20:39. | |
tried to pursue since the referendum. She interpreted the | :20:40. | :20:43. | |
decision in the referendum as giving the Government a power to decide how | :20:44. | :20:49. | |
to proceed. The Supreme Court rightly interpreted the | :20:50. | :20:52. | |
constitutional reality and disabused her of that vanity. She then asked | :20:53. | :20:57. | |
voters to give a free hand to drive through her own personal | :20:58. | :21:01. | |
hyperactive. The British people disabused her of that vanity. Two | :21:02. | :21:07. | |
things must now happen. First, I believe we need a cross-party | :21:08. | :21:12. | |
council comprising expertise and experience and how to advise the | :21:13. | :21:17. | |
Government to progress. Scrutiny benefits from a plurality of | :21:18. | :21:19. | |
opinion, good decisions require managed dissent. Second, the Brexit | :21:20. | :21:26. | |
council should work out what a baseline acceptable deal should be | :21:27. | :21:31. | |
and put that into place. I believe that deal may look something like | :21:32. | :21:36. | |
the Norwegian model. Entering the European Economic Area and from that | :21:37. | :21:40. | |
base we could work out what incremental elements we need to get | :21:41. | :21:45. | |
a deal to shed it. Working from a baseline, we can build a genuinely | :21:46. | :21:50. | |
successful deal with the best chance of safeguarding jobs and building | :21:51. | :21:58. | |
prosperity for the future. This is a defining parliament for Britain's | :21:59. | :22:02. | |
place in Europe and in the world and it will fail in its duty if it does | :22:03. | :22:07. | |
not reside over the United Kingdom leaving the European Union and doing | :22:08. | :22:12. | |
it in as good order as our 27 partners and negotiators enabled. | :22:13. | :22:17. | |
This entails the historic amount of legislative activity and as the | :22:18. | :22:23. | |
Queen's Speech to... Much of this work will be detailed and technical, | :22:24. | :22:25. | |
important to get right. Hopefully not controversial. With the | :22:26. | :22:31. | |
diplomatic activity we undertake in the coming months and years, it will | :22:32. | :22:34. | |
be important for Britain's future and must not play second fiddle to | :22:35. | :22:39. | |
our legislative challenge. I welcome the Queen's Speech commitment that | :22:40. | :22:43. | |
ministers will ensure that the UK's leading role on the world stage is | :22:44. | :22:48. | |
maintained and enhanced as it leaves the European Union. Few in this | :22:49. | :22:52. | |
House regardless of their own position on the referendum question | :22:53. | :22:59. | |
we resolve the year ago will want to the United Kingdom to be anything | :23:00. | :23:03. | |
other than open and internationalist in it outlook. Now more than ever | :23:04. | :23:07. | |
the foreign and Commonwealth is without a central role in | :23:08. | :23:11. | |
maintaining our networks and alliances and in developing | :23:12. | :23:14. | |
political security and economic ties around world. In the last | :23:15. | :23:19. | |
parliament, the Foreign Affairs Committee which I chaired and how to | :23:20. | :23:21. | |
do so again in this Parliament repeatedly called for the capacity | :23:22. | :23:34. | |
be posted for the thermometer. More funding for the FCO commensurate | :23:35. | :23:42. | |
with the task it's now faces. The Department for exiting the EU and | :23:43. | :23:46. | |
the Department for International Trade have been creating but the | :23:47. | :23:49. | |
diplomatic task required in all European capitals and yarns will | :23:50. | :23:54. | |
outlast the withdrawal process and is discreet from the trade agenda. | :23:55. | :24:01. | |
It is wholly inadequate to the task at hand. Events will continue to | :24:02. | :24:06. | |
develop with serious consequences for our interests. The current | :24:07. | :24:10. | |
crisis in the Gulf and in a potential for a hot or protracted | :24:11. | :24:16. | |
cold water on the Arabian Peninsula threatens the stability and | :24:17. | :24:19. | |
prosperity of key British partners and has undermined the effectiveness | :24:20. | :24:23. | |
of the Gulf War Corporation. -- cancelled. Calls for the European... | :24:24. | :24:32. | |
We should particularly by offering our expertise and auditing of any | :24:33. | :24:38. | |
counter terrorism financing measures and indeed on what the ground rules | :24:39. | :24:41. | |
might be for political Islamist to take part in developing opposites. | :24:42. | :24:47. | |
This will be in the interest of all parties. It is vital that we are | :24:48. | :24:53. | |
ready and properly resourced to carry out such work if requested. | :24:54. | :25:00. | |
There is inevitably much more than I was like to say in this debate. On | :25:01. | :25:07. | |
our current operations in Syria and the future of liberated territory in | :25:08. | :25:11. | |
both Iraq and Syria. On the authorisation of the use of force, | :25:12. | :25:19. | |
on new sanctions regime to replace those sanctions when we leave the | :25:20. | :25:23. | |
European Union. On our involvement on the European Union's future | :25:24. | :25:27. | |
common security policy and common security and defence policy. And | :25:28. | :25:31. | |
importantly on potential Brexit transition options. I also wanted to | :25:32. | :25:39. | |
say, finally, to make the point is that 2020 would be a suitable date | :25:40. | :25:44. | |
for the state visit of President Trump. Notably omitted from the | :25:45. | :25:50. | |
Queen's Speech. I regret, Sir David, that people will now have to look at | :25:51. | :25:55. | |
my website to see the full text of the remarks I had hoped to make in | :25:56. | :26:02. | |
the debate. This Queen's Speech shows how dominated our legislative | :26:03. | :26:07. | |
agenda will be by Brexit. The repeal Bill, bills and trade, customs, | :26:08. | :26:11. | |
fisheries, agriculture and more. The matter what they say, what events | :26:12. | :26:17. | |
may say, we have a single purpose Government and a single purpose | :26:18. | :26:22. | |
legislative programme. The Prime Minister called the election because | :26:23. | :26:25. | |
she says she could not get Brexit through Parliament. How ruefully she | :26:26. | :26:32. | |
must reflect on that statement now. Before she said that, the Article 50 | :26:33. | :26:37. | |
girl had gone through this House with a majority of 372 votes. The | :26:38. | :26:41. | |
other place had not tried to block it. The legislation went through, | :26:42. | :26:46. | |
the election was never called because Parliament was blocking | :26:47. | :26:50. | |
Brexit it was called because the Government wanted to cash in on big | :26:51. | :26:55. | |
opinion poll leads. The backfiring of that political gamble has left | :26:56. | :27:01. | |
the Prime Minister leading a minority Government dependent on the | :27:02. | :27:05. | |
deal with the DUP announced today at an immediate cost of 1.5 billion | :27:06. | :27:13. | |
pounds. When I was a child, we had a programme on television called the | :27:14. | :27:18. | |
$6 million man. I thought it was a lot of money but looking at the DUP, | :27:19. | :27:23. | |
they have guaranteed for more than that. As we enter the most important | :27:24. | :27:30. | |
negotiations the country has conducted since the war weekend, not | :27:31. | :27:36. | |
strengthen. The authority of the Prime Minister shot to pieces. Her | :27:37. | :27:40. | |
Cabinet divided and her position sustained by nothing other than fear | :27:41. | :27:42. | |
of another election. As the negotiations begin, we are | :27:43. | :27:54. | |
reminded of a solitary fact. We have discussed Brexit far too often in | :27:55. | :27:57. | |
the past year as the liver something that Tory ministers could define. It | :27:58. | :28:01. | |
would mean this, it would mean that, the next thing. But actually this is | :28:02. | :28:06. | |
a negotiation between two parties round a table, it is not a Tory wish | :28:07. | :28:10. | |
list. When the Secretary of State was asked yesterday what he thought | :28:11. | :28:16. | |
of Michel Barnier, he gave an insight into the level of | :28:17. | :28:19. | |
preparation when he said, he is very French. Perhaps if that level of | :28:20. | :28:24. | |
preparation, it is no wonder that the first demand repeated four times | :28:25. | :28:31. | |
in the Article 15 letter -- article 15 letter, that future negotiations | :28:32. | :28:36. | |
take place alongside the Article 50 negotiations, did not survive the | :28:37. | :28:42. | |
first meeting on the first day. This reminds us, this is a negotiation | :28:43. | :28:46. | |
between two parties, not a Tory wish list. In substance, what does that | :28:47. | :28:54. | |
boil down to after the election? As other colleagues said, the thing | :28:55. | :28:58. | |
should go is this mantra that no deal is better than a bad deal. No | :28:59. | :29:04. | |
deal would be damaging for the European Union, but as the Chairman | :29:05. | :29:10. | |
past and perhaps future of the Foreign Affairs Committee said, | :29:11. | :29:14. | |
relatively speaking, they would damage our small. We know the | :29:15. | :29:18. | |
consequences. Tariffs on cars, bigger tariffs on agricultural | :29:19. | :29:22. | |
produce, it makes it impossible to have no hard order at least in | :29:23. | :29:26. | |
economic terms between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. | :29:27. | :29:31. | |
This is a gun held to our heads, not to the European Union's heads in | :29:32. | :29:38. | |
relative terms. And ultimately, Sir David, what this negotiation will | :29:39. | :29:42. | |
come down to is a choice for the Prime Minister. Will she do as the | :29:43. | :29:45. | |
Chancellor wants to and put the economic interests first, or will | :29:46. | :29:51. | |
she put the hard Brexiteer is first? Will it be the national interests | :29:52. | :29:54. | |
first, or will it be nationalism first? That is ultimately the choice | :29:55. | :30:02. | |
that faces her. It is a great honour and pleasure to follow the | :30:03. | :30:07. | |
honourable member for Will -- Wolverhampton South East. I agree | :30:08. | :30:11. | |
with much of what he said and indeed the excellent speech from my right | :30:12. | :30:19. | |
honourable friend. And I endorse much of what was said by the | :30:20. | :30:22. | |
gentleman who represents leads essential. If I may say, I really do | :30:23. | :30:28. | |
think people right across this House and indeed across this country have | :30:29. | :30:32. | |
to be utterly realistic and honest about this, and except that | :30:33. | :30:39. | |
everything has now changed. I know that in my own constituency, I found | :30:40. | :30:44. | |
very few angry Remainers. I know there are many angry Remainers, it | :30:45. | :30:47. | |
tends to be a London-based thing, and the results in London for the | :30:48. | :30:53. | |
Conservative Party say it all. But in my constituency, very few angry | :30:54. | :30:57. | |
Remainers. What there is is an acceptance of the result and almost | :30:58. | :31:02. | |
a resignation, not in agreement, it is no welcome, especially from those | :31:03. | :31:06. | |
members of my constituency who run their own business, they did not | :31:07. | :31:09. | |
welcome the result for the fact they are leaving the EU, but they have | :31:10. | :31:14. | |
accepted the result and their message now is to come together and | :31:15. | :31:21. | |
get the best deal that we can in a national interest. That is why I am | :31:22. | :31:24. | |
so pleased that already, we are seeing changes in the approach, and | :31:25. | :31:29. | |
many other honourable and right honourable members have expressed | :31:30. | :31:31. | |
that. And they do repeat much of what was said actually from the | :31:32. | :31:36. | |
front bench about the need to change the tone. My own front bench has to | :31:37. | :31:42. | |
wake up and understand that things have now changed. The rhetoric has | :31:43. | :31:48. | |
to be dropped. This slogan, no deal is better than a bad deal, is a | :31:49. | :31:53. | |
nonsense, it has always been a nonsense and the British people know | :31:54. | :31:57. | |
it and that is why they voted as they did on the 8th of June. Nobody | :31:58. | :32:01. | |
likes somebody being very smart, but I am going to have to say this. I | :32:02. | :32:06. | |
stood up in this place on this spot on two occasions and I warned | :32:07. | :32:10. | |
honourable and right honourable friends on this side of the House of | :32:11. | :32:16. | |
the dangers of ignoring the 48%, and the young in particular. And I used | :32:17. | :32:21. | |
that expression, many young people who voted Remain believe an older | :32:22. | :32:28. | |
generation have stolen the future. And the result was there on the 8th | :32:29. | :32:32. | |
of June, I hate to have been proved right but I was. Look at the | :32:33. | :32:38. | |
demographics of those results and as you see, almost mirrored from the | :32:39. | :32:42. | |
referendum, the older people work, the more likely that were to have | :32:43. | :32:46. | |
voted Conservatives. The younger ones, and obviously that is in my | :32:47. | :32:50. | |
terms, anyone under the age of 50! But look at the demographics, look | :32:51. | :32:54. | |
at what happened. People under the age of 45, more of them voted Labour | :32:55. | :33:00. | |
in that election. It is profoundly ironic that people who voted Remain | :33:01. | :33:03. | |
then went and voted for the Leader of the Opposition and the Labour | :33:04. | :33:11. | |
Party, a man who gave Remain a very lukewarm 7.5 out of ten, it is | :33:12. | :33:17. | |
profoundly ironic, and if I may say to members opposite, they also have | :33:18. | :33:21. | |
to wake up and accept the reality of the situation, because they have | :33:22. | :33:24. | |
promised many of those people things which they may not be able to | :33:25. | :33:29. | |
deliver on. When they talk about the customs union, the Single Market and | :33:30. | :33:32. | |
immigration, they have now got to say what they mean and stop being | :33:33. | :33:36. | |
cowards about it. If you think you want the benefits of the customs | :33:37. | :33:42. | |
union, have the courage to stand up and say that. Make the case, make | :33:43. | :33:48. | |
the argument as we now need to do to make the case and the argument about | :33:49. | :33:51. | |
the benefits of immigration. Finally, this is a great country, we | :33:52. | :33:55. | |
still have a very good economy, we have a great future in front of us. | :33:56. | :34:00. | |
That is not because of the fact we are leaving the EU, it is despite | :34:01. | :34:04. | |
it. We now need to make sure we have the education and training to seize | :34:05. | :34:14. | |
those opportunities. Maiden speech. Thank you, Mr Debord is bigger. I am | :34:15. | :34:17. | |
grateful to you for giving me the opportunity to make my maiden speech | :34:18. | :34:24. | |
today. -- Mr Deputy Speaker. It is a privilege to follow the member for | :34:25. | :34:29. | |
Cardiff North, I know how hard he works to represent the constituency | :34:30. | :34:34. | |
over the past two years. The recent election campaign was punctured by a | :34:35. | :34:36. | |
number of tragic events, from Manchester to London. In Wales, what | :34:37. | :34:42. | |
was another sad event which brought to get -- together the nation, the | :34:43. | :34:47. | |
loss of our former First Minister, Rhodri Morgan was felt in homes | :34:48. | :34:50. | |
across Wales and some may remember his time here representing Cardiff | :34:51. | :34:56. | |
West and also his wife Julie, who represented Cardiff North and who | :34:57. | :34:59. | |
still represents the constituency in the National Assembly. Julie and | :35:00. | :35:06. | |
Rodri were a team for over half a century, Rhodri is much missed and I | :35:07. | :35:13. | |
am sure members will join me in extending our love and sympathy to | :35:14. | :35:20. | |
Julie and the family. The history of the modern Cardiff North is a | :35:21. | :35:24. | |
history of how industry and people changed and revolutionised the city | :35:25. | :35:28. | |
and the whole of South Wales. But it is industry that has defined the | :35:29. | :35:31. | |
modern part of the capital that they represent. It was the wealth created | :35:32. | :35:36. | |
by the traditional industries of South Wales that greeted the Gothic | :35:37. | :35:43. | |
splendour of Dodge and it was the same industry the boat people to | :35:44. | :35:45. | |
create Cardiff and look to the growth of Whitchurch and many other | :35:46. | :35:51. | |
places to make only a few of its communities. That industry also | :35:52. | :35:58. | |
created a cosmopolitan, multicultural city that is also home | :35:59. | :36:03. | |
to Cardiff was 's first Welsh medium secondary school, a school where my | :36:04. | :36:07. | |
daughter learns through the medium of a language that is growing and | :36:08. | :36:10. | |
will be spoken by 1 million people in the coming decades. And it is the | :36:11. | :36:16. | |
people of Cardiff who voted to remain in the European Union. The | :36:17. | :36:21. | |
vote in many parts of Wales was not a vote against Europe or the concept | :36:22. | :36:27. | |
or reality of the European Union. It was a vote against politics, against | :36:28. | :36:31. | |
the reality of the decisions taken here. The cumulative impact of | :36:32. | :36:38. | |
benefit cuts and reduction in public spending has hit the poorest | :36:39. | :36:42. | |
hardest. So I intend to use my time here against, to speak up against a | :36:43. | :36:49. | |
failed austerity, where the richest people have forced the poorest | :36:50. | :36:54. | |
people to pay the price. The UK Government seems to have abandoned | :36:55. | :36:57. | |
austerity for Northern Ireland today. What about the rest of the | :36:58. | :37:03. | |
UK? What about Wales? The UK is weaker and less united this evening | :37:04. | :37:08. | |
than it was this morning. I also hope the UK Government understands | :37:09. | :37:13. | |
it is important that the whole of the UK is represented in these talks | :37:14. | :37:21. | |
and negotiations. At present the UK Government is in danger not only of | :37:22. | :37:24. | |
losing the argument in Brussels, but in Cardiff as well. A dis- United | :37:25. | :37:30. | |
Kingdom where jobs, workers' rights and action on climate James are | :37:31. | :37:35. | |
sacrificed in pursuit of an impossible imperialist fantasy. -- | :37:36. | :37:39. | |
climate change. Mr Deputy Speaker, you were kind enough to remind me to | :37:40. | :37:43. | |
raise the issue of the loss of over 1000 jobs in my constituency during | :37:44. | :37:49. | |
the business statement last week due to the closure of a Tesco customer | :37:50. | :37:52. | |
care centre. Since then I have had the opportunity to spend time and | :37:53. | :37:55. | |
speak with many other workers who had been told they have lost their | :37:56. | :38:02. | |
jobs. They are devastated. Of them added to or three members of the | :38:03. | :38:05. | |
same family working there. One of them wrote to me, her words speak to | :38:06. | :38:10. | |
everyone affected. Please fight for us, she said. Each and every single | :38:11. | :38:17. | |
one of those 1100 people are heartbroken and terrified as we face | :38:18. | :38:20. | |
uncertain futures for ourselves and our families. Anything you can do, | :38:21. | :38:26. | |
anything at all will be -- we will be forever grateful. Those are her | :38:27. | :38:29. | |
words and not mine and they are a challenge to us all will stop it is | :38:30. | :38:33. | |
those people and their voices that are on my mind today that will be | :38:34. | :38:40. | |
guiding me. So my fear if this Government is allowed to drive | :38:41. | :38:42. | |
through a Brexit where jobs and livelihoods of the people we all | :38:43. | :38:45. | |
represent are treated with disdain of disdain and indifference, then | :38:46. | :38:50. | |
these will be the stories we hear every day, every week and every | :38:51. | :38:56. | |
month. So, I intend to use my time to stand up against failed austerity | :38:57. | :39:00. | |
measures and for a more prosperous, fairer and more equal society. I | :39:01. | :39:04. | |
look forward to working with my colleagues here. Thank you. May I | :39:05. | :39:13. | |
begin by thanking the honourable member for Cardiff North for her | :39:14. | :39:16. | |
contribution today. It is a pleasure to follow her and also to say thank | :39:17. | :39:21. | |
you for her kind and generous remarks about her predecessor. I am | :39:22. | :39:28. | |
sure we all wish every personal success serving in the House of | :39:29. | :39:33. | |
Commons. Sir David, as the UK leaves the EU, the British people and | :39:34. | :39:37. | |
Parliament will again have the right to make our own decisions in our own | :39:38. | :39:42. | |
national interest and with our freedom restored, our nation, I | :39:43. | :39:48. | |
believe, will boldly make its own way in the world, just as our | :39:49. | :39:51. | |
forebears did throughout the centuries. The benefits of trade and | :39:52. | :39:57. | |
sharing, culture, should not require the United Kingdom to be locked into | :39:58. | :40:02. | |
a political union. On the contrary, upholding every essence of our | :40:03. | :40:06. | |
sovereignty and democracy is what the people of these islands have | :40:07. | :40:11. | |
fought for for nearly 1000 years. The measures outlined in the Queen's | :40:12. | :40:15. | |
Speech well, I believe, lay the foundations for a better future for | :40:16. | :40:20. | |
all parts of our nation. And all of us must now accept that the ultimate | :40:21. | :40:26. | |
ambitions of the European Union do not run with the grain of the | :40:27. | :40:29. | |
British people. Our historical development and approach has always | :40:30. | :40:35. | |
been different, and our energies must now surely be focused on | :40:36. | :40:44. | |
working to construct a new British, European, bilateral relationship, | :40:45. | :40:47. | |
and one I certainly believe is not only possible but will eventually | :40:48. | :40:49. | |
prove to be the right path for our nation. Our future, Mr... Sir David, | :40:50. | :40:58. | |
lies as it always beyond the shores of Europe, with the rest of the | :40:59. | :41:03. | |
world, particularly the Commonwealth and the English-speaking world. I | :41:04. | :41:07. | |
speak as co-chairman of the British- Irish Parliamentary assembly in | :41:08. | :41:11. | |
saying that the very special and enduring relationship between the | :41:12. | :41:16. | |
people of the United Kingdom and Ireland must be secured in any new | :41:17. | :41:20. | |
arrangements. Most particularly the Common travel area and access for | :41:21. | :41:28. | |
trade, hopefully unfettered, between the two borders. It is possible to | :41:29. | :41:32. | |
be outside the European Union and at the same time have beneficial | :41:33. | :41:36. | |
bilateral relations without compromising sovereignty. As our | :41:37. | :41:43. | |
crown dependencies of Jersey, Guernsey and the Isle of Man have | :41:44. | :41:48. | |
demonstrated, and her Majesty's... Has a responsibility to defend and | :41:49. | :41:51. | |
secure their rights and interests as well. The same also applies to the | :41:52. | :42:00. | |
subjects of the British Overseas Territories, who depend on the | :42:01. | :42:04. | |
United Kingdom to look after their well-being and again, Sir David, we | :42:05. | :42:08. | |
have a duty to defend their rights as well. | :42:09. | :42:14. | |
The people of Gibraltar are rightly nervous at this time. I welcome the | :42:15. | :42:21. | |
announcement that the king and queen of Spain will soon visit the UK for | :42:22. | :42:26. | |
a state visit but there was nothing in the Queen's speech that gave any | :42:27. | :42:33. | |
public reassurances that Gibraltar's economy and sovereignty would be | :42:34. | :42:37. | |
safeguarded, so I've call upon the Government to do that. We must never | :42:38. | :42:43. | |
let down the people of the Rock who have time and again demonstrated | :42:44. | :42:48. | |
their undying loyalty to the British Crown and to the UK. So let us | :42:49. | :42:55. | |
embrace the fortunes of this great historical moment offers by securing | :42:56. | :43:01. | |
an agreement that exemplifies the bold ambition of our nation to be a | :43:02. | :43:06. | |
great economic and cultural centre of the world again. This is what the | :43:07. | :43:12. | |
British people expect of Her Majesty'sgovernment so let us all | :43:13. | :43:16. | |
unite behind that great vision for our United Kingdom. It's a pleasure | :43:17. | :43:24. | |
to follow the honourable member who refers to Gibraltar and I'm glad he | :43:25. | :43:28. | |
ended there because I wanted to highlight that there is a problem | :43:29. | :43:32. | |
not just with regard to the situation of Northern Ireland and | :43:33. | :43:36. | |
the Republic but what will happen to Gibraltar. It is quite possible that | :43:37. | :43:44. | |
there will be a real problem getting any agreement because of this | :43:45. | :43:47. | |
agreement with Spain over the issue of Gibraltar. The document | :43:48. | :43:56. | |
guidelines produced by the European Council president, Donald Tusk, | :43:57. | :44:03. | |
clause 24, is interpreted by the Gibraltar government as potentially | :44:04. | :44:10. | |
leaving their position uncertain and unsettled after any deal. The | :44:11. | :44:16. | |
question will be, is the British Government could purge, in order to | :44:17. | :44:20. | |
get an agreement, to sell out Gibraltar? Were on the other hand, | :44:21. | :44:27. | |
if it does get an agreement, will that be worth anything after we have | :44:28. | :44:32. | |
left the EU where we will no longer be able within the Council of | :44:33. | :44:36. | |
ministers and the European Parliament and through other | :44:37. | :44:42. | |
measures to protect the interests of Gibraltar whereas there will be a | :44:43. | :44:48. | |
member state in the EU which has another agenda? Similar issues apply | :44:49. | :44:54. | |
elsewhere but Gibraltar is a fundamental sticking point in these | :44:55. | :44:58. | |
negotiations and the Foreign Secretary and the British Government | :44:59. | :45:02. | |
need to come clean about this and state publicly what their position | :45:03. | :45:07. | |
will be. At the same time, a reference was made to the state | :45:08. | :45:13. | |
visit by the King of Spain. There was no reference to the state visit | :45:14. | :45:19. | |
of President Trump and I draw attention to the EDM which myself | :45:20. | :45:23. | |
and the member for Cardiff have put down on this issue, the British | :45:24. | :45:29. | |
Government, if it is serious about being honest and open, should say | :45:30. | :45:37. | |
now whether the handholding is over and whether President Trump will be | :45:38. | :45:47. | |
welcomed here in this year, as originally intended, or whether his | :45:48. | :45:52. | |
visit is put off indefinitely? The former chair of the Foreign Affairs | :45:53. | :45:57. | |
Committee said it should be taking place perhaps in 2020. I suggest it | :45:58. | :46:04. | |
should perhaps be taking place in the period after the presidential | :46:05. | :46:08. | |
election when Donald Trump's successor has been elected, before | :46:09. | :46:15. | |
the inauguration of his successor. I'm not sure if the Deputy | :46:16. | :46:20. | |
Speaker... In the interests of others, I think it's not fair I take | :46:21. | :46:26. | |
an intervention. There is a fundamental problem in the | :46:27. | :46:30. | |
Government's approach. Other members referred to it. Our country will be | :46:31. | :46:36. | |
poorer, weaker and less influential on the world stage if we leave the | :46:37. | :46:44. | |
European Union. We have already seen a vote in the united Nations General | :46:45. | :46:49. | |
Assembly in the last few days relating to the Chagos Islands and | :46:50. | :46:56. | |
Mauritius. EU countries did not line up alongside the UK. This is pretty | :46:57. | :47:04. | |
precedent had. Normally EU countries always work collectively in a | :47:05. | :47:10. | |
General Assembly to defend each other's interests and that did not | :47:11. | :47:13. | |
happen, and we will see more of that in the future. I pledge to fight | :47:14. | :47:19. | |
this hard Brexit and I will do so throughout this Parliament. Maiden | :47:20. | :47:30. | |
speech, Mr Andrew Gori. Thank you for calling me to speak in this | :47:31. | :47:35. | |
debate, it is our pleasure to follow the honourable member for Ilford | :47:36. | :47:40. | |
South. It is humbling to have been elected to this place and I hope | :47:41. | :47:45. | |
however long or short my time here maybe, I will be able to serve | :47:46. | :47:49. | |
Aberdeenshire with the same purpose as my predecessor. I am aware that I | :47:50. | :47:56. | |
walk in August footsteps. Sir Robert Smith who held the seat for 18 | :47:57. | :48:02. | |
years, Sir George Kynoch, who sat here for five years and the much | :48:03. | :48:09. | |
respected Sir Alec Buchanan Smith, and before that, Angus Norton | :48:10. | :48:17. | |
mounds, from 1964 until his death in 1991. And I am only on day 18. You | :48:18. | :48:25. | |
will get fed up of my 12 Scottish Conservative colleagues insisting... | :48:26. | :48:32. | |
Insisting their patch of gods own country is the most beautiful in the | :48:33. | :48:36. | |
UK and while I sympathise with them, is clear that the most dutiful, | :48:37. | :48:41. | |
unique and downright orient constituency in the country is West | :48:42. | :48:47. | |
Aberdeenshire and Kincardine. From the Cairngorms National Park, done | :48:48. | :48:53. | |
through Royal decide, skirting the edge of the Granite city, taking in | :48:54. | :48:58. | |
Blackburn, Westhill, and don't to the North Sea coast, picturesque | :48:59. | :49:05. | |
pastoral don side, Stonehaven and the villages made famous by Lewis | :49:06. | :49:12. | |
Grassi Gribben in my grandfather's favourite novel. The own rhyme, the | :49:13. | :49:20. | |
two peaks you can see through the sea, both are in Aberdeenshire and | :49:21. | :49:25. | |
Kincardine, although I have to share the latter with the member for | :49:26. | :49:31. | |
Gordon. I could but I will not at this time tell the gripping tale of | :49:32. | :49:36. | |
how the honours of Scotland were smuggled out in a creel basket by a | :49:37. | :49:41. | |
minister's wife to save them from the clutches of Oliver Cromwell for | :49:42. | :49:48. | |
the romantic but doomed 1715 Jacobite rebellion which began with | :49:49. | :49:53. | |
the raising of the standard of King James the third, or how decide | :49:54. | :49:58. | |
became Royal decide, of the money Mosque Valkyrie which held the bones | :49:59. | :50:03. | |
of Saint Columba and was carried in front of the Scottish army at | :50:04. | :50:08. | |
Bannockburn. I could but I won't. It would be remiss of me to speak | :50:09. | :50:16. | |
without mentioning how I have the immense honour of representing | :50:17. | :50:20. | |
Balmoral Castle. The residence in the north-east of Scotland is now | :50:21. | :50:25. | |
not represented only in displaced by a Conservative but also in the | :50:26. | :50:30. | |
Scottish Parliament White Alexander Burnett, and with Ruth Davidson | :50:31. | :50:33. | |
representing Holyrood Palace, Her Majesty now has three elected | :50:34. | :50:42. | |
Conservative representatives. It is an honour to represent Balmoral, | :50:43. | :50:46. | |
even if when canvassing it is a long drive to walk up only to find that | :50:47. | :50:51. | |
the resident isn't on the electoral roll. Today we continue to debate | :50:52. | :50:58. | |
the Queen's speech, specifically we debate Brexit and Foreign Affairs. | :50:59. | :51:04. | |
The speech last week said Bill would repeal the European Communities Act. | :51:05. | :51:09. | |
On Thursday I attended the Royal Highland show and met many farmers, | :51:10. | :51:15. | |
many from Aberdeenshire, in between lamenting how poor the SNP has been | :51:16. | :51:20. | |
at managing the CHP system north of the border, they wanted to make | :51:21. | :51:26. | |
clear that what farmers and all in the agricultural sector need more | :51:27. | :51:30. | |
than anything is certainty and stability in our country and are way | :51:31. | :51:35. | |
ahead to plan their businesses, not just for the next five years but for | :51:36. | :51:42. | |
the next ten, 15 and 20. What this country does not need is further | :51:43. | :51:45. | |
uncertainty in the shape of another referendum in Europe for another | :51:46. | :51:51. | |
general election and certainly not another referendum on Scottish | :51:52. | :51:56. | |
independence, so let's all come together in the national interest | :51:57. | :52:00. | |
and support the Government. That is what Mike if the Germans need me to | :52:01. | :52:06. | |
do and that is what I will do. I congratulate the honourable members | :52:07. | :52:13. | |
for Cardiff North and Aberdeenshire and Kincardine on their maiden | :52:14. | :52:18. | |
speeches. This will be one of dozens of debates on Brexit and the Queen's | :52:19. | :52:22. | |
speech is evidence that Brexit legislation is already distracting | :52:23. | :52:28. | |
from the day job of governing and it will also detract from our ability | :52:29. | :52:33. | |
to address issues that will continue to affect people's lies. I propose | :52:34. | :52:39. | |
that Bridget legislation fails to respect even this House, the con | :52:40. | :52:43. | |
situation framework of our country and the concerns of our people. As | :52:44. | :52:48. | |
the Government has acknowledged, they do not want to create even more | :52:49. | :52:54. | |
uncertainty and risk derailing Brexit negotiations further and they | :52:55. | :52:59. | |
must respect all the opinions in this House. In this Queen's speech | :53:00. | :53:04. | |
the Government committed to working with devolved administrations to | :53:05. | :53:08. | |
build the widest possible consensus on our future outside the EU. For a | :53:09. | :53:14. | |
decision that affects almost every aspect of our lives and generations | :53:15. | :53:18. | |
to come, this process would seem sensible. The four nations approach | :53:19. | :53:23. | |
is what Plaid Cymru has insisted on from the beginning. There was not a | :53:24. | :53:29. | |
single piece of legislation in this Queen's speech that specifically | :53:30. | :53:34. | |
delivers four wells. The Brexit legislation seeks to take power away | :53:35. | :53:39. | |
from Wales, shredding our con situation or settlement. The UK | :53:40. | :53:46. | |
Government has a duty to gain the consent of all the devolved | :53:47. | :53:49. | |
administrations before legislating on a devolved matter and as powers | :53:50. | :53:55. | |
are repatriated back to Westminster from Brussels, those powers which | :53:56. | :53:59. | |
set within the framework of the national assembly for Wales must be | :54:00. | :54:05. | |
presented to the Welsh Assembly. The Democratic voice of Wales should not | :54:06. | :54:07. | |
and will not be weakened by Westminster. It is vital that the | :54:08. | :54:15. | |
national assembly is provided the right to give all without its | :54:16. | :54:19. | |
consent in relation to legislation that is so central to its | :54:20. | :54:23. | |
constitutional position and to the future of our country. Wales has | :54:24. | :54:28. | |
unique needs during the Brexit process and beyond. Our economy, | :54:29. | :54:34. | |
agriculture, funding and public services or our own and it is up to | :54:35. | :54:39. | |
us to decide how they are governed outside the EU. A real four nations | :54:40. | :54:45. | |
approach to our exit from the EU means genuine input and tangible | :54:46. | :54:48. | |
representation from the devolved nations. I note the Secretary of | :54:49. | :54:56. | |
State's commitment to seek the consent of the national parliaments | :54:57. | :55:01. | |
of the UK on the repeal Bill but I would make it clear now that Plaid | :55:02. | :55:06. | |
Cymru will not support any legislation that hordes powers away | :55:07. | :55:13. | |
from our devolved areas. Will he, and I would like to ask, will he | :55:14. | :55:19. | |
publish full details of how each UK country will be involved and will | :55:20. | :55:23. | |
see also confirm that he will ensure the support of all the four nations | :55:24. | :55:29. | |
before signing the final exit deal with the EU? It's a pleasure to | :55:30. | :55:40. | |
follow the honourable member. I welcome that most of the legislation | :55:41. | :55:44. | |
in the Gracious Speech was devoted to equipping our country for its | :55:45. | :55:48. | |
departure from the EU and the forging of a new place in the world. | :55:49. | :55:53. | |
I am proud that the Government is committed to delivering on the will | :55:54. | :55:58. | |
of the people, so our laws will now be made in Westminster, Edinburgh, | :55:59. | :56:04. | |
Belfast and Cardiff. We can no longer doubt the instructions of the | :56:05. | :56:09. | |
electorate. The Secretary of State spoke of the 52% voting to leave the | :56:10. | :56:15. | |
EU and over 85% voting for a Brexit parties at the election. There are | :56:16. | :56:20. | |
lessons that we on this side of the House need to learn from the outcome | :56:21. | :56:25. | |
of this election but one thing I hope we can all take away from this | :56:26. | :56:31. | |
is a commonality of purpose on the part of all members across the House | :56:32. | :56:37. | |
who were elected to this place on a manifesto pledging to make Brexit a | :56:38. | :56:43. | |
success. We must deliver on this because with two successive mandates | :56:44. | :56:47. | |
for leaving the EU in under a year, the damage that would be done to the | :56:48. | :56:54. | |
reputation of elected politicians everywhere seem to have undermined | :56:55. | :56:57. | |
the electorate's wishes would be severe. It's no secret that the | :56:58. | :57:04. | |
current parliamentary arithmetic is one I did not want to see in the | :57:05. | :57:10. | |
wake of the general election but the Conservatives are the largest party | :57:11. | :57:14. | |
by a considerable margin, however much the Leader of the Opposition | :57:15. | :57:20. | |
defied expectations on June the 8th and however much he might preach | :57:21. | :57:23. | |
this to the crowds at Glastonbury, he did not win and he is in no | :57:24. | :57:27. | |
position to form a government. It falls to the Prime Minister and | :57:28. | :57:36. | |
her team to take to the negotiation table and make Brexit a success. | :57:37. | :57:40. | |
Given the Parliament the people have chosen for us are for once again to | :57:41. | :57:43. | |
the commonality of purpose I spoke of earlier. If we are to make Brexit | :57:44. | :57:49. | |
work for all our citizens whether they voted for the Conservatives, | :57:50. | :57:53. | |
Labour or any other party, we need to show a united front in this House | :57:54. | :57:58. | |
and give the Brexit team the backing they need. Sir David, I'm not at all | :57:59. | :58:04. | |
saying that members across the House should desist from offering the | :58:05. | :58:08. | |
Government constructive criticism at this most vital of times. What a | :58:09. | :58:12. | |
Parliament that offers opposition for the sake of opposition rather | :58:13. | :58:16. | |
than well-intentioned advice is one that would undermine our position in | :58:17. | :58:21. | |
the eyes of our interlocutors and harm the negotiation protests. -- | :58:22. | :58:29. | |
process. I invite them to listen to the comments made by the former EU | :58:30. | :58:36. | |
Commissioner, an ardent remain, before the Foreign Affairs | :58:37. | :58:39. | |
Committee. -- Lemina. He said, the best chance we have in these | :58:40. | :58:43. | |
negotiations is if we show a united front and band together a run that | :58:44. | :58:47. | |
Prime Minister. So I have put it to this House, do the honourable and | :58:48. | :58:53. | |
right honourable members care more about opposing the Prime Minister | :58:54. | :58:56. | |
and her team, whatever they do, rather than to pull together to | :58:57. | :59:01. | |
ensure a successful Brexit deal? For me, the priority will always be a | :59:02. | :59:06. | |
successful Brexit and I hope as many colleagues as possible will join me | :59:07. | :59:10. | |
in refraining from undermining negotiations in the hope of | :59:11. | :59:13. | |
short-term political point scoring, and get behind our team. Maiden | :59:14. | :59:21. | |
speech, Mr Dan Jones. Thank you, Mr Speaker, for calling me to give my | :59:22. | :59:26. | |
maiden speech. Being elected as the Member of Parliament for my home | :59:27. | :59:29. | |
constituency of Bristol North West is deeply humbling. Humbling for me | :59:30. | :59:36. | |
personally as a working-class kid from a council estate in my | :59:37. | :59:41. | |
constituency to be able to speak here on behalf of my friends, my | :59:42. | :59:46. | |
family, my community and indeed my country is a great honour. Let me | :59:47. | :59:52. | |
also pay tribute to my predecessor, Charlotte Leslie. A Member of | :59:53. | :59:57. | |
Parliament for several years that my seven years and a candidate for | :59:58. | :00:02. | |
three further. A local leadership was held in warm regard by my | :00:03. | :00:06. | |
constituents and me. We thank Charlotte for her public service. Mr | :00:07. | :00:12. | |
Deputy Speaker, from the earliest evidence of human habitation on | :00:13. | :00:17. | |
these British Isles, on the shores of the River Avon, to the eighth | :00:18. | :00:20. | |
century monastery of Westbury on Trym, granted by King offer of | :00:21. | :00:28. | |
Murcia, to the Roman settlements and the doomsday reference to the parish | :00:29. | :00:33. | |
of Henbury, I am now, so I am told, to the first ever -- the first ever | :00:34. | :00:41. | |
Darren to be elected to the House of Commons. Bristol North West is a | :00:42. | :00:45. | |
fascinating constituency! By the successes of my home and its people, | :00:46. | :00:50. | |
from jobs at the port and advanced manufacturing to research and | :00:51. | :00:53. | |
evolvement in the professional services, rely on our trading | :00:54. | :00:56. | |
relationship with the European Union. That is why my first priority | :00:57. | :01:04. | |
during this Brexit Parliament is to fight for Britain was my membership | :01:05. | :01:07. | |
of the European Single Market. Because in times of peace, our first | :01:08. | :01:15. | |
priority must be prosperity for all. That is why the politics of holding | :01:16. | :01:19. | |
onto power for power's sake or political positioning to win | :01:20. | :01:24. | |
internal ideological battles must stop. We are all here to do what is | :01:25. | :01:30. | |
right for the country. If that is not the case, than I do not know why | :01:31. | :01:35. | |
we are here at all. So I stand here humbled by my election, with a sense | :01:36. | :01:41. | |
of urgency, to tackle a hard Brexit. But also, with a sense of sadness. | :01:42. | :01:46. | |
Sadness, Mr Deputy Speaker, because the world feels more fragile than it | :01:47. | :01:50. | |
has in the past. With Britain seen as weak and uncertain in high risk | :01:51. | :01:58. | |
times. Fast paced technological change, shifting geopolitical power, | :01:59. | :02:02. | |
young people frustrated by the country, old people increasingly | :02:03. | :02:05. | |
left alone and public services allowed to slowly die by a thousand | :02:06. | :02:11. | |
cuts, Mr Deputy is bigger, politics is hard work but it is the only | :02:12. | :02:15. | |
forum through which we can provide help. -- Mr Deputy Speaker. Whether | :02:16. | :02:20. | |
I am an MP for four months or for four years, whether my actions | :02:21. | :02:23. | |
brings assess or failure to my own career, I will always put my | :02:24. | :02:26. | |
constituents and my country first. So in this Parliament, let us do all | :02:27. | :02:32. | |
we can to show that a modern and just Britain can rise from the ashes | :02:33. | :02:40. | |
of our current dismay. We are merely shepherds of the nation, standing on | :02:41. | :02:44. | |
the shoulders of giants, tasked with leading a country to our children | :02:45. | :02:50. | |
that we can be proud of. -- leaving. This Brexit Parliament will define | :02:51. | :02:54. | |
the future of our country. Let us not self-harm and cause pain. But | :02:55. | :02:59. | |
let us instead unite and act with a sense, as well as with patriotism in | :03:00. | :03:05. | |
our hearts. For a national renewal after the dark years of austerity, | :03:06. | :03:09. | |
for the birth of a new British chapter that works for the many and | :03:10. | :03:15. | |
not just the few. A new dawn for a new Britain. It is for us now to | :03:16. | :03:20. | |
seize that opportunity and fast to the risks of failure, but we can | :03:21. | :03:28. | |
only do it by working together. In this Brexit Parliament, levers and | :03:29. | :03:38. | |
Remainers, in the national interest. Thank you, Mr Debbie Speaker. I | :03:39. | :03:44. | |
would like to congratulate the honourable member for Bristol North | :03:45. | :03:47. | |
West on his maiden speech. -- Mr Deputy Speaker. Like him I am | :03:48. | :03:51. | |
fortunate to represent my home constituency. I wish him much | :03:52. | :03:56. | |
personal success in his career. As a committed Brexiteer, we will not | :03:57. | :04:01. | |
agree on everything, but I would like to discuss an issue that I feel | :04:02. | :04:05. | |
there is much common ground on. As members, we all sit here thanks to | :04:06. | :04:09. | |
our constituents engaging in a democratic process, putting their | :04:10. | :04:12. | |
faith in us to represent them. Over the course of this Parliament, we | :04:13. | :04:18. | |
will do our utmost to make our constituents' voices heard, to help | :04:19. | :04:22. | |
fight the battles and provide reasoned and totally enlightening | :04:23. | :04:25. | |
additions to this debate. But in when all is said and done after our | :04:26. | :04:29. | |
most impassioned efforts, it may not be enough and those same | :04:30. | :04:35. | |
constituents may opt to it on someone else. Indeed, this is right | :04:36. | :04:39. | |
and proper. Democratic process working as it is intended to do. | :04:40. | :04:44. | |
Indeed, I believe with the Brexit negotiations occurring as we speak, | :04:45. | :04:50. | |
democracy is our greatest export. My admiration for the principle of | :04:51. | :04:54. | |
democracy that this House upholds, a representation, accountability and | :04:55. | :04:58. | |
liberty, and what might lie behind my support for a withdrawal from the | :04:59. | :05:02. | |
EU. I'm sure all members will support those principles and | :05:03. | :05:07. | |
fearlessly defend them, but where is the same vigour when it comes to the | :05:08. | :05:11. | |
unelected bureaucrats in Brussels to whom we have been ceding more and | :05:12. | :05:14. | |
more of our sovereignty with each passing year? These unrepresented -- | :05:15. | :05:22. | |
and resented of follies are not in the habit of giving back powers once | :05:23. | :05:28. | |
they have them. The EU will continue to strike the Cabaco bomb -- to | :05:29. | :05:31. | |
become more bigger, more centralised and more powerful. As beaten begin | :05:32. | :05:36. | |
the process of withdrawal, it is vital to ensure that whatever deal | :05:37. | :05:42. | |
arises, there is a clean cut with the shackles. That we take back | :05:43. | :05:46. | |
ownership of our laws, leave the jurisdiction of the European Court | :05:47. | :05:50. | |
of Justice and remove the excessive bureaucracy that has been strangling | :05:51. | :05:53. | |
business here. There has been an endless tide of regulation emanating | :05:54. | :05:58. | |
from Brussels and it should be no surprise that their one size fits | :05:59. | :06:01. | |
all approach to regulation does not work. There are 20 different | :06:02. | :06:04. | |
countries, with different needs and wants. Now we have the time and | :06:05. | :06:09. | |
opportunity to design policies tailored to our specific needs and | :06:10. | :06:12. | |
remove the rules holding Britain back. For example, the agriculture | :06:13. | :06:17. | |
Bill provides an amazing opportunity to develop our own legislative | :06:18. | :06:20. | |
framework that will provide support for those farmers who need it most, | :06:21. | :06:26. | |
act to incentivise farmers who work in a way which for the sake of the | :06:27. | :06:30. | |
environment, helps to ensure the long-term sustainability of the food | :06:31. | :06:34. | |
and farming sector and protects our important rural communities. Leading | :06:35. | :06:39. | |
the customs union will create opportunities for relationships with | :06:40. | :06:42. | |
global markets and foreign trade agreements to be arrived at. In | :06:43. | :06:45. | |
doing this it is important that we ensure our farmers and businesses | :06:46. | :06:48. | |
are operating on a level playing field. Brexit presents great | :06:49. | :06:54. | |
opportunities for global trade, which must be seized with both | :06:55. | :06:57. | |
hands, and which would otherwise be tied with red tape. I thank you, Mr | :06:58. | :07:04. | |
Debbie Speaker and it is a pleasure to follow -- Mr Debbie Speaker, | :07:05. | :07:10. | |
after three fantastic maiden speeches that were both powerful, | :07:11. | :07:16. | |
lyrical and passionate. They will honour to follow them all. Mr debate | :07:17. | :07:22. | |
-- Debuchy Speaker, with regard to Brexit, everything has changed. I | :07:23. | :07:27. | |
think all of us need to recognise that and that is why it is with | :07:28. | :07:32. | |
great regret the Gracious Speech did not rule out withdrawal without a | :07:33. | :07:36. | |
deal but it did not guarantee categorically a Parliamentary vote | :07:37. | :07:39. | |
and the role of our devolved administrations, that it did not set | :07:40. | :07:43. | |
out transitional arrangements that would actually give some certainty | :07:44. | :07:47. | |
and guidance to our businesses and to all of us in this country. | :07:48. | :07:51. | |
Instead we get this idea of pretty sure we will achieve some sort of | :07:52. | :07:56. | |
deal, what sort of certainty is that for businesses and those seeking to | :07:57. | :08:00. | |
strike in our economy? It is not set out proposals to remain within the | :08:01. | :08:03. | |
customs union and the Single Market, but I fervently believe would be | :08:04. | :08:07. | |
best for businesses and the people in my constituency. It does not set | :08:08. | :08:15. | |
out in respect competencies, as the member for South, our devolved | :08:16. | :08:17. | |
administrations, whether it is in regard to the competencies and of | :08:18. | :08:22. | |
the devolved settlement with regards to funding, the needs or are -- of | :08:23. | :08:26. | |
our devolved administrations. It seems remarkable that the Government | :08:27. | :08:31. | |
and fined 1.5 billion and more possibly for the DUP deal over | :08:32. | :08:35. | |
Northern Ireland, yet we in Wales cannot get those guarantees of what | :08:36. | :08:39. | |
the funding will be for Wales after Brexit happens. There is great anger | :08:40. | :08:43. | |
today in Wales at the deal that has been done today. The Gracious Speech | :08:44. | :08:47. | |
does not provide a categorical protections we have heard all sorts | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
of mixed answers today about the situation of EU nationals and indeed | :08:52. | :08:56. | |
of UK citizens abroad. This matters for the people of Cardiff South and | :08:57. | :09:00. | |
Penarth, particularly the young people who recently voted, what are | :09:01. | :09:03. | |
the opportunities going to be in the future? What is the future going to | :09:04. | :09:06. | |
be for businesses in my local community? Where are we going to get | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
this terror funding deal for Wales? Will we keep those crucial labour | :09:12. | :09:16. | |
and environmental protections? Are the rights of EU citizens in my | :09:17. | :09:19. | |
constituency going to be respected or will they be merely pawns in this | :09:20. | :09:28. | |
game? I welcome all efforts in this House from those who would seek to | :09:29. | :09:32. | |
put this Government on the spot. Everything has indeed change. What | :09:33. | :09:35. | |
matters abroad matters for all the people in Cardiff South and Penarth | :09:36. | :09:39. | |
and for all of us in this country. It is something I have said here | :09:40. | :09:43. | |
before and it is not just over Brexit in the future nature of our | :09:44. | :09:46. | |
trade and relationships, it is about the family links and concerns of the | :09:47. | :09:50. | |
many diverse communities in my constituency. It is about the care | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
that many of those people show for those fleeing conflicts and | :09:56. | :09:57. | |
prosecution and for human rights of others around the world. The care | :09:58. | :10:01. | |
they show on global issues like climate change. Their opposition to | :10:02. | :10:05. | |
the threat posed by extremism and the undermining of our values. And | :10:06. | :10:11. | |
indeed the concerns of those who have family members serving in the | :10:12. | :10:14. | |
Armed Forces bravely around the world in many different contexts. | :10:15. | :10:18. | |
That is why issues I intend to be racing in this issue of foreign | :10:19. | :10:23. | |
affairs include things like the situation in Yemen, and our | :10:24. | :10:27. | |
continued sale of arms to Saudi Arabia, helping to fuel that | :10:28. | :10:30. | |
conflict. The situation in Syria will you must continue the fight | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
against the barbarous Daesh operatives. But also seek to protect | :10:36. | :10:38. | |
civilians. The situation of Somaliland, country that has many | :10:39. | :10:43. | |
connections to my own constituency, will we finally see Britain and | :10:44. | :10:49. | |
other countries recognising it and providing crucial support to the | :10:50. | :10:52. | |
elections are coming later this year? Will be continuing our | :10:53. | :10:57. | |
commitments on overseas development? Will be stand-up principles on | :10:58. | :10:59. | |
climate change and stand opposed to those like President Trump who would | :11:00. | :11:04. | |
undermine them? And will we do right by our Armed Forces and support the | :11:05. | :11:07. | |
army with the right levels and the right recruitment and the right deal | :11:08. | :11:14. | |
they deserve? Maiden speech, Mr Ben Bradley. Thank you, Mr Deputy | :11:15. | :11:21. | |
Speaker. It is a privilege to make my maiden speech in this place today | :11:22. | :11:25. | |
and to follow the member for Cardiff South and Penarth who spoke with his | :11:26. | :11:28. | |
usual eloquence. I'm honoured and humbled to be elected by the | :11:29. | :11:29. | |
residents of Mansfield. This seat has been Labour since 1923 | :11:30. | :11:42. | |
so it is a huge vote of confidence which I must strive to repay. I must | :11:43. | :11:49. | |
pay tribute to my predecessor, Sir Alan Newell, who was MP for | :11:50. | :11:53. | |
Mansfield for 30 years, so he has been the MP for longer than I have | :11:54. | :12:00. | |
been alive, which is some achievement, but he contributed to | :12:01. | :12:05. | |
many courses, such as the War Graves commission as well as a role in the | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
Blair and Brown governments. The last MPs from Mansfield represented | :12:11. | :12:14. | |
the area for a total of 76 years between them. I'm sure I'm not the | :12:15. | :12:20. | |
only new member to have at some point wondered how I ended up here. | :12:21. | :12:26. | |
Looking back I realised that after working as a landscape gardener and | :12:27. | :12:30. | |
a recruiter, I've found my calling in the bin. I was so frustrated at | :12:31. | :12:38. | |
the council's failure to empty my bins for a month because of one day | :12:39. | :12:43. | |
of snow that I had to act. I couldn't rest until there was action | :12:44. | :12:48. | |
so I stood for cancelled, was elected and have been banging on | :12:49. | :12:52. | |
about household waste management to a limited audience of people who | :12:53. | :12:57. | |
would listen ever since. Mansfield has been sustained by great injury, | :12:58. | :13:02. | |
from the first cotton factories that sprung up many years ago and many | :13:03. | :13:08. | |
landmarks are named after it, the football stadium, Field Mill, and | :13:09. | :13:15. | |
many other examples. In the 12th century King Henry got lost in the | :13:16. | :13:20. | |
woods and found his way to a local mill where the Miller thought he | :13:21. | :13:24. | |
looked like a decent chap and offered him a bed. In the morning | :13:25. | :13:28. | |
when the came announced himself, the family dropped to their needs to beg | :13:29. | :13:31. | |
forgiveness for being so familiar anti-netted them. The pub that | :13:32. | :13:39. | |
stands as a landmark to that event was at haunt of mine during the | :13:40. | :13:45. | |
campaign for that reason! If the decline of the mills lead to | :13:46. | :13:49. | |
unemployment and decline, so did the end of mining industry. Mining was a | :13:50. | :13:58. | |
support and our heritage for which people are proud and I support calls | :13:59. | :14:03. | |
for a museum to protect that heritage and ensure future | :14:04. | :14:07. | |
generations understand it. The regeneration we need has been slow | :14:08. | :14:11. | |
in coming. Worksop no longer has the kind of arriving commerce that gave | :14:12. | :14:17. | |
the town its name and it has taken too long to revitalise. I believe | :14:18. | :14:23. | |
our potential has been heading upwards. New collectives bring | :14:24. | :14:29. | |
together scores -- schools, churches and other groups under shared goals | :14:30. | :14:36. | |
like reducing homelessness. Fantastic institutions offer | :14:37. | :14:42. | |
everything from technical and vocational courses to university | :14:43. | :14:46. | |
degrees and allow young people to improve their prospects. I will end | :14:47. | :14:51. | |
where I began, with the election campaign. Of all the many factors on | :14:52. | :14:58. | |
the doorsteps, the one I heard most often was Brexit and that is why I | :14:59. | :15:01. | |
chose to make my maiden speech today. My constituency voted 72% in | :15:02. | :15:09. | |
favour of Britain leaving the EU and what has been made clear is that | :15:10. | :15:14. | |
residents of Mansfield will not accept any deal that doesn't involve | :15:15. | :15:18. | |
taking back control of our borders. That is a red line that must not be | :15:19. | :15:23. | |
crossed. It is not about individuals who concentrate to our society that | :15:24. | :15:28. | |
sheer weight of numbers affecting our local services. The other | :15:29. | :15:33. | |
message has been that nobody has been speaking up for Mansfield in | :15:34. | :15:37. | |
Westminster and banging on the doors of ministers. That was my pledge | :15:38. | :15:43. | |
during the election, to shout loud and often and I intend to fulfil | :15:44. | :15:49. | |
that promise. Let me congratulate all those who have used this evening | :15:50. | :15:54. | |
to make their maiden speeches and it is a pleasure to follow the | :15:55. | :15:58. | |
honourable member for Mansfield and I look forward to finding out more | :15:59. | :16:01. | |
about the bin collections. There has been much discussion on eight Brexit | :16:02. | :16:09. | |
bills at a bill on environmental protection is conspicuous by its | :16:10. | :16:13. | |
absence and given the significance of the EU's role in environmental | :16:14. | :16:20. | |
protection, that is grave omission. Robust environmental protection | :16:21. | :16:25. | |
relies on well funded institutions to monitor compliance and also needs | :16:26. | :16:30. | |
powerful regulators to ensure breaches of the law are challenged | :16:31. | :16:36. | |
and enforced, so for the last 40 years that system of enforcement has | :16:37. | :16:41. | |
been grounded in the institutions of the EU, notably the commission and | :16:42. | :16:46. | |
the ECJ, meaning the UK Government can be held to account for its | :16:47. | :16:52. | |
actions and there are countless examples of that, since 1981 the | :16:53. | :16:57. | |
commission has received over 200 complaints about the UK under the | :16:58. | :17:01. | |
nature directives, thus protecting wildlife across the country, and | :17:02. | :17:07. | |
that is precisely the threat of fines from Brussels that has | :17:08. | :17:11. | |
concentrated the minds of government on acting on issues like air | :17:12. | :17:16. | |
pollution. Domestic legislation didn't go far enough to do that, so | :17:17. | :17:21. | |
it is astonishing that beyond a few comments from ministers, we have no | :17:22. | :17:25. | |
detail on how this important system will be replaced. We don't know if | :17:26. | :17:30. | |
the Government intends to rely on existing regulators but if so let's | :17:31. | :17:36. | |
remember those agencies have seen their budgets slashed and their | :17:37. | :17:41. | |
capacity to hold government to account diminished, and when it | :17:42. | :17:45. | |
comes to the Repeal Bill, it is more complex than cutting and pasting a | :17:46. | :17:49. | |
whole set of EU legislation into UK law. The Environment Secretary of | :17:50. | :17:57. | |
state, at the audit committee, acknowledged that one third of | :17:58. | :17:59. | |
environmental legislation would be hard to transfer in that way. Once | :18:00. | :18:04. | |
that material is transferred, but becomes effectively unenforceable, | :18:05. | :18:10. | |
due to the fact there is an absence of monitoring and enforcement and we | :18:11. | :18:16. | |
don't have the commission and ECJ and will not have that legal | :18:17. | :18:20. | |
architecture, and when people say we will rely on the UK courts, the | :18:21. | :18:26. | |
threshold for access to UK courts for judicial review is very high and | :18:27. | :18:31. | |
expensive and the system will not be as effective as the one we have now. | :18:32. | :18:38. | |
Let's be honest, if a small but vocal part of the right wing see | :18:39. | :18:43. | |
Brexit as a chance for deregulation, a fight will be coming that feels | :18:44. | :18:50. | |
necessary given the new Environment Secretary has suggested we scrap | :18:51. | :18:55. | |
vital EU protections and has described one of the centrepieces of | :18:56. | :18:59. | |
that legislation, the Habitats Directive, as absurd. The member for | :19:00. | :19:06. | |
Surrey Heath has also a record for good thing against measures to | :19:07. | :19:12. | |
combat climate change and I do not have much confidence that the | :19:13. | :19:16. | |
environment will be safe in his hands, and that is why I have asked | :19:17. | :19:22. | |
for an environmental protection act that would cut through political | :19:23. | :19:26. | |
ideology on the right and left which often sidelines the environment and | :19:27. | :19:31. | |
would require a long-term evidence-based approach, and would | :19:32. | :19:36. | |
do so by primary legislation and guaranteed a proper degree of | :19:37. | :19:41. | |
parliamentary oversight. Last year, no one was voting to scrap our | :19:42. | :19:46. | |
environmental legislation but that is a real risk unless we enshrine it | :19:47. | :19:50. | |
in a new environmental protection act. It's a pleasure to followed the | :19:51. | :19:56. | |
honourable member for Brighton Pavilion and for superb maiden | :19:57. | :20:03. | |
speeches. I'm quite pleased with the progress the Government is making in | :20:04. | :20:07. | |
the transition from being part of the EU to leaving, first holding the | :20:08. | :20:14. | |
referendum, then seeing the right result, committing to Brexit, | :20:15. | :20:18. | |
triggering Article 50 and not making a strong agenda in the Queen's | :20:19. | :20:24. | |
speech. It's so important in this that we reflect that we did have a | :20:25. | :20:29. | |
referendum only a year ago, that result was to leave the European | :20:30. | :20:37. | |
Union. There is no lack of certainty and that that hearing people today, | :20:38. | :20:42. | |
it's as though the general election has cancelled out the referendum. We | :20:43. | :20:50. | |
still need to leave the EU. It seems that elements of the political | :20:51. | :20:53. | |
establishment are doing what they can in any way they can in a time of | :20:54. | :21:00. | |
war of attrition to undermine the decision of the British people. It's | :21:01. | :21:05. | |
a deliberate redefining of what Brexit means, the invention of the | :21:06. | :21:10. | |
notion that never existed before the referendum of hard and soft Brexit. | :21:11. | :21:15. | |
There is no such thing. It reminds me of the EU itself. The British | :21:16. | :21:25. | |
people voted in 1975 to remain in the European Economic Community, | :21:26. | :21:29. | |
people understood as the Common Market, and since then more powers | :21:30. | :21:34. | |
have been accrued to what is now the European Union. What seems to be on | :21:35. | :21:40. | |
the verge of being a United States of Europe, so just as the nature of | :21:41. | :21:45. | |
the EU has profoundly changed, so the nature of the argument in the | :21:46. | :21:51. | |
debate in Britain has changed also, but that decision of the British | :21:52. | :21:56. | |
people has not changed, we should still be leaving the EU and the way | :21:57. | :22:00. | |
people work to undermine the views clearly expressed by the British | :22:01. | :22:07. | |
people. There is the argument that people didn't know what they were | :22:08. | :22:12. | |
voting for, as if they are ignorant. The way people discuss that is all | :22:13. | :22:19. | |
about immigration, which is just one of a number of matters with that | :22:20. | :22:25. | |
inference, clear inference of anyone voting leave being a racist. That | :22:26. | :22:31. | |
people cannot understand the arguments when so much of what | :22:32. | :22:38. | |
people voted on was the lived experience of people in the last 40 | :22:39. | :22:43. | |
years. It wasn't a few weeks of a campaign, it was the lived | :22:44. | :22:48. | |
experience people voted on. The Queen's speech builds upon the | :22:49. | :22:50. | |
positive outlook of the Leave campaign. We have a positive vision | :22:51. | :22:56. | |
for the future of the country, we want to go out to the world and have | :22:57. | :23:01. | |
a fantastic relationship with the EU, there is no reason we cannot | :23:02. | :23:06. | |
have that but the continuity remain campaign seemed to be a depressing | :23:07. | :23:12. | |
place, full of depressing arguments. It seems that other than dumping | :23:13. | :23:18. | |
members of the European Parliament, they want no change whatever. That | :23:19. | :23:23. | |
is the only change they are willing to see, remain in all but name. In a | :23:24. | :23:31. | |
few closing comments, Sir David, I would like a clarification on | :23:32. | :23:35. | |
Horizon 2020, we will still be part of it until the end but it's up | :23:36. | :23:42. | |
question over the successor to Horizon 2020 that we need | :23:43. | :23:45. | |
clarification on and the British people voted to take back control of | :23:46. | :23:49. | |
our laws and our money and that is what we have to deliver. Maiden | :23:50. | :23:57. | |
speech, Mr Luke pollard. It's a great privilege to stand here on | :23:58. | :24:02. | |
behalf of Plymouth, my home and where I live. I stand here mindful | :24:03. | :24:07. | |
of the contribution of the political greats who have contributed to this | :24:08. | :24:13. | |
chamber and my city, Nancy Astor, the first woman to take a seat in | :24:14. | :24:21. | |
this chamber, Michael Foot, who represented Plymouth Devonport until | :24:22. | :24:24. | |
1955, rebuilding our city after the Second World War, then David Owen | :24:25. | :24:30. | |
and his defection, Alan Clark and his diaries, more recently Alison C | :24:31. | :24:37. | |
Beck. I have a lot to live up to but there is a lot to do. I want to | :24:38. | :24:42. | |
thank Oliver Colvile, my predecessor, for his service. He | :24:43. | :24:48. | |
represented Plymouth Sutton for seven years, always conducting | :24:49. | :24:53. | |
himself with the and generosity. I'm sure the whole house will want to | :24:54. | :24:59. | |
join with me in wishing Mr Colville a speedy recovery from his time in | :25:00. | :25:04. | |
hospital. Many members note of his passion for hedgehogs. I hope | :25:05. | :25:09. | |
someone will pick-up protection of the perkily creatures but that will | :25:10. | :25:13. | |
not be me. There is one campaign where we work together and that was | :25:14. | :25:18. | |
when we joined forces to have one of the new type 26 frigates to be named | :25:19. | :25:28. | |
after Britain's city, HMS Ocean, and that campaign I will continue. As | :25:29. | :25:34. | |
the sun of Devonport -based sub Mariner, I know how important | :25:35. | :25:39. | |
defence is to our country. The myth is home to the largest naval base in | :25:40. | :25:43. | |
western Europe, summer rain and surface fleet research facilities, | :25:44. | :25:50. | |
the historic home of the Royal Marines at Stonehouse barracks, two | :25:51. | :25:54. | |
bases facing closure. With an aircraft carriers coming on stream | :25:55. | :26:00. | |
and the demand they will place on the Royal Navy in terms of personnel | :26:01. | :26:04. | |
and escort frigates, it is time for us to think about how many frigates | :26:05. | :26:09. | |
are a nation needs. International uncertainty means we need a larger | :26:10. | :26:14. | |
Royal Navy. Orders have been capped from 13 to eight and the new type 21 | :26:15. | :26:20. | |
frigate is early on in its design stage. The SSR called for 32 | :26:21. | :26:26. | |
frigates and destroyers but we now have just 19, so I want to see the | :26:27. | :26:31. | |
Government increased the orders. More frigates supporting marine | :26:32. | :26:36. | |
engineering and shipbuilding businesses in Plymouth, across the | :26:37. | :26:42. | |
and our nation is what this country needs. During the Prime Minister's | :26:43. | :26:46. | |
statement on rental tower I received the news that cladding on local | :26:47. | :26:53. | |
tower blocks had been tested and was combustible, I immediately called | :26:54. | :26:56. | |
for an safe cladding to be removed and that will happen. I am pleased | :26:57. | :27:04. | |
there is cross-party support them Plymouth with members asking the | :27:05. | :27:08. | |
Government to pay for that work. Plymouth is one of the UK's great | :27:09. | :27:14. | |
cities, by grand bastion of parliamentary democracy, from the | :27:15. | :27:18. | |
sabbath day fight in the civil war to the modern day, we saw Pilgrim | :27:19. | :27:22. | |
Fathers set sail in the Mayflower, to defeat the Spanish Armada and | :27:23. | :27:29. | |
captain Kirk's voyages, as a base for Marine expeditions we are second | :27:30. | :27:35. | |
to want so I want to see a ministry for maritime affairs set and | :27:36. | :27:38. | |
Plymouth to be designated the country's first Marine Park. Our | :27:39. | :27:44. | |
contribution has not always been matched by receiving our fair share. | :27:45. | :27:49. | |
This poor deal we have now is not a deal I will vote to cut further. | :27:50. | :27:56. | |
Progress has happened but not at a fast enough pace. It must now up a | :27:57. | :27:59. | |
gear. It is a pleasure to follow the | :28:00. | :28:06. | |
maiden speech for Plymouth Sutton and Devonport, we have a shared | :28:07. | :28:10. | |
interest in the voyage of the Mayflower and I hope we will look | :28:11. | :28:15. | |
forward to working together on that. I like giving Boston is where it | :28:16. | :28:18. | |
started and some people say Plymouth was merely a stop on the way across | :28:19. | :28:21. | |
the Atlantic, but we can have that debate later. Brexited to find not | :28:22. | :28:27. | |
only the election that we have just endured, but also the state of my | :28:28. | :28:34. | |
constituents -- constituency over the last ten to 15 years. And it is | :28:35. | :28:40. | |
right that Brexit is in a large part the focus of this Gracious Speech. | :28:41. | :28:46. | |
When I think back over what has happened to my constituency over | :28:47. | :28:51. | |
that period, we have seen huge changes. We have seen the | :28:52. | :28:56. | |
agricultural industry in some ways supercharged by the huge numbers of | :28:57. | :29:02. | |
new migrant workers and by changes in industrial practice. But we have | :29:03. | :29:07. | |
also seen huge changes to the town of Boston in particular and to | :29:08. | :29:14. | |
Lincolnshire as a whole. Those changes did not come with the | :29:15. | :29:18. | |
democratic consent of my constituents, and they placed huge | :29:19. | :29:24. | |
pressure on the public services in my constituency. It is a testament | :29:25. | :29:30. | |
to all of the previous members of this House that we did not even have | :29:31. | :29:36. | |
the argument about the benefits of being in the European Union, never | :29:37. | :29:47. | |
mind with it. If you were to seek to vote down this Gracious Speech or | :29:48. | :29:49. | |
indeed to undermine much of the contents of it, we would be | :29:50. | :29:55. | |
undermining democracy itself. And I do not say that in a bid to ask | :29:56. | :30:00. | |
people not to oppose, but I do say that overall, the fact we are | :30:01. | :30:04. | |
leaving the European Union is not only something that was in the | :30:05. | :30:09. | |
manifesto that both major parties brought out but it is very much in | :30:10. | :30:13. | |
the minds of my constituents. 76% of those turned out to vote in the | :30:14. | :30:18. | |
referendum and 76% of them voted to leave. It is that result which we | :30:19. | :30:24. | |
must respect when it comes to looking to the future. So with that | :30:25. | :30:31. | |
in mind, I would pose to questions. The first is on what the future of | :30:32. | :30:35. | |
our country outside the European Union will mean for the farming | :30:36. | :30:40. | |
industry. And this is closely linked to my second question, which is | :30:41. | :30:44. | |
perhaps unsurprisingly on what many of my constituents tell is the | :30:45. | :30:48. | |
number one issue when it comes to why they voted to leave the EU, and | :30:49. | :30:54. | |
that is immigration. My plea, Mr Speaker, would be that we | :30:55. | :30:59. | |
acknowledge that this process that we go through will in part | :31:00. | :31:03. | |
supercharge an ongoing process of mechanisation. I believe the | :31:04. | :31:08. | |
changing availability of labour will see more and more farmers in my | :31:09. | :31:12. | |
constituency invest in more and more the machines that mean they are able | :31:13. | :31:16. | |
to be infinitely more productive and require less labour. But the fact | :31:17. | :31:20. | |
is, they will require significant amounts of labour in the future but | :31:21. | :31:28. | |
prior to Auro being members of an expanded European Union, we had a | :31:29. | :31:31. | |
successful seasonal agricultural workers' scheme and I would hope | :31:32. | :31:36. | |
that that visa scheme without work permit scheme can in some form be | :31:37. | :31:42. | |
quickly reconstitution to provide the stability for the agricultural | :31:43. | :31:47. | |
industry, just as today, we heard the Prime Minister seek to provide | :31:48. | :31:51. | |
stability for the many of my constituents who came from Eastern | :31:52. | :31:55. | |
Europe, who have made their homes in Boston and Skegness, and who I hope | :31:56. | :31:59. | |
you find that they are in a better position than they were only this | :32:00. | :32:05. | |
week. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I would like to congratulate the five | :32:06. | :32:08. | |
members who have made the maiden speeches in this debate, the member | :32:09. | :32:14. | |
for Plymouth Sutton and Devonport, Cardiff North, Mansfield, West | :32:15. | :32:17. | |
Aberdeenshire and Kincardine, who spoke with good humour and give us | :32:18. | :32:21. | |
an insight into everything from the history and the best tourist spots | :32:22. | :32:24. | |
and pubs in their constituencies. I'm sure we will agree on some | :32:25. | :32:28. | |
issues are not on others. One issue I would agree with them before West | :32:29. | :32:33. | |
Aberdeenshire and Kincardine is that there is a need not to have a second | :32:34. | :32:39. | |
independence referendum. And while I will disagree with him on many | :32:40. | :32:44. | |
issues in this case, I do welcome that the election result in Scotland | :32:45. | :32:49. | |
shows a greater diversity of voices in this place. It is a more true | :32:50. | :32:53. | |
reflection of the diversity of views within Scotland. It is two years and | :32:54. | :32:59. | |
three months to the day since my last contribution in this House. And | :33:00. | :33:05. | |
I am delighted to be back. In the intervening period, John Nicholson | :33:06. | :33:09. | |
spoke from the SNP badges for East Dumbartonshire and while we had | :33:10. | :33:13. | |
profound disagreements on Scotland was my place in the UK, I would pay | :33:14. | :33:18. | |
tribute to his work in particular on equality issues and LGBT right | :33:19. | :33:23. | |
especially. And I know that he would share my concern is indeed many of | :33:24. | :33:28. | |
my constituents do about the Conservatives' deal today with the | :33:29. | :33:32. | |
DUP. And in particular what this might mean for LGBT rights, for | :33:33. | :33:38. | |
climate change and for women's rights. At the start of the general | :33:39. | :33:42. | |
election campaign, Brenda from Bristol struck a chord from many | :33:43. | :33:45. | |
when she said there was too much politics. If she had lived and | :33:46. | :33:51. | |
Bairstow bishoprics she might have even more cause to do so because in | :33:52. | :33:54. | |
Scotland in the last three years, there have been no fewer than seven | :33:55. | :33:59. | |
elections or referendums. In East Dumbartonshire, there are still | :34:00. | :34:03. | |
great enthusiasm and in 2014 there was the spectacular turnout of 91%. | :34:04. | :34:10. | |
61% of people voting to keep Scotland in the UK. And two years | :34:11. | :34:15. | |
later, 71% voted to remain in the EU. East Dumbartonshire wants | :34:16. | :34:20. | |
Scotland in the UK and the UK in the EU and that is what I will advocate | :34:21. | :34:23. | |
as a representative of East Dumbartonshire in this House. Bet it | :34:24. | :34:29. | |
will be overarching for this Parliament. -- Brexit. And I | :34:30. | :34:32. | |
remember from my time in government, I can just imagine the trickle of | :34:33. | :34:38. | |
Brexit that civil servants and ministers will be wading through. | :34:39. | :34:42. | |
There is a real risk, indeed probably a near certainty, that it | :34:43. | :34:46. | |
will divert attention from other important issues. And I do think | :34:47. | :34:50. | |
that the Government's response to this election result is so | :34:51. | :34:55. | |
disappointing. There is no mandate for that extreme version of Brexit. | :34:56. | :34:59. | |
Instead of looking at this balanced Parliament and reaching out in a | :35:00. | :35:06. | |
spirit of compromise to try to find genuine cross-party agreement and | :35:07. | :35:09. | |
consensus, the Government is sticking rigidly to its mantra of no | :35:10. | :35:12. | |
membership of the Single Market or the customs union. Recasting our | :35:13. | :35:20. | |
relationship with the EU shows in sharp relief our relationship with | :35:21. | :35:23. | |
the rest of the world. It is a volatile world and we will discuss | :35:24. | :35:27. | |
the global developments, risk and threats. But I do not share the rose | :35:28. | :35:30. | |
tinted view of the Brexiteers that it is all going to be jolly | :35:31. | :35:33. | |
wonderful. On the crosscutting issues of human rights, democracy, | :35:34. | :35:40. | |
climate change, it is often our EU partners who most closely share our | :35:41. | :35:44. | |
values and it is the worst possible time for the UK to be loosening ties | :35:45. | :35:48. | |
with our European neighbours when we have a White House at odds with UK | :35:49. | :35:52. | |
interests and we are forced to roll out the red carpet for a President | :35:53. | :35:56. | |
who demonises a whole religion, shows disrespect for others in the | :35:57. | :36:00. | |
words he uses about women and poses a real danger to the world by | :36:01. | :36:04. | |
withdrawing the US from the Paris climate change agreement. I heard | :36:05. | :36:08. | |
the Government to think again and look for genuine cross-party | :36:09. | :36:11. | |
consensus as it approaches the difficult issues we face. May I say | :36:12. | :36:18. | |
what a pleasure it is to follow the honourable member for East | :36:19. | :36:21. | |
Dumbartonshire, and how lucky I have been, we have all been to have | :36:22. | :36:24. | |
listened to so many outstanding maiden speeches from all sides of | :36:25. | :36:31. | |
the House. All members have described their constituencies with | :36:32. | :36:35. | |
passion and dare I say, poetry. I am also honoured to be returned to | :36:36. | :36:39. | |
represent the people of Winnie and West Oxfordshire, on whose behalf I | :36:40. | :36:44. | |
pledge to vote in the time ahead. -- Witney. There is a great deal to | :36:45. | :36:49. | |
mention in the Gracious Speech and sadly, time will not permit that | :36:50. | :36:53. | |
today. But I would like to concentrate on one aspect of the | :36:54. | :36:58. | |
present negotiations, that I have dealt with in the speech -- that has | :36:59. | :37:03. | |
been doubled. It is a fact of the election that 85% of people who | :37:04. | :37:07. | |
voted have supported parties who honour manifesto is at least support | :37:08. | :37:10. | |
withdrawal from the Single Market. And the customs union. It is | :37:11. | :37:15. | |
important to consider the customs union and I would like to | :37:16. | :37:18. | |
concentrate on that in the brief time available today. It is | :37:19. | :37:22. | |
important to remember how in so many ways the European Union, which ought | :37:23. | :37:28. | |
to be a beacon for free trade, operates as a protectionist loch and | :37:29. | :37:32. | |
it is that which troubles me most about that. Because I believe in | :37:33. | :37:43. | |
free trade. -- protectionist bloc. It is, Mr Speaker, for that reason | :37:44. | :37:48. | |
that we must have control, independent control of our own trade | :37:49. | :37:52. | |
policy. Because then we can focus on the great and the emerging markets | :37:53. | :37:59. | |
of the world. Now, six members of the G20 have already expressed | :38:00. | :38:03. | |
interest in having talks and a possible free-trade agreement with | :38:04. | :38:07. | |
us in the future. Australia, South Korea, India, as well as Brazil, | :38:08. | :38:11. | |
China and our greatest single trading partner, the United States. | :38:12. | :38:16. | |
It is a fact that British trade has been moving away from the unit | :38:17. | :38:18. | |
appear in unit for many years, with whom we now have a trade deficit. -- | :38:19. | :38:24. | |
the European Union. Particularly with regards to services. Only $4.8 | :38:25. | :38:28. | |
trillion worth of markets have been opened up to the UK by the European | :38:29. | :38:33. | |
Union and if we look at Switzerland, $35 trillion have been opened up to | :38:34. | :38:36. | |
Switzerland by their free-trade arrangements. These smaller groups | :38:37. | :38:42. | |
tend to be more favourable to services. Services, as we all know, | :38:43. | :38:46. | |
such an important part of the economy. It is only 60% in the | :38:47. | :38:51. | |
European Union but to 90% with the smaller book agreements. But it is | :38:52. | :38:56. | |
not just about the interests of finance, important though that is to | :38:57. | :39:00. | |
the UK economy. It is also because free-trade helps the poorest, not | :39:01. | :39:04. | |
just around the world but in our society as well. It is anticipated | :39:05. | :39:10. | |
that this great tool, free the greatest author of reducing poverty | :39:11. | :39:14. | |
in the world, that -- could reduce the annual food bill for people in | :39:15. | :39:22. | |
the UK by up to ?361 per household. That is a prize worth looking for. | :39:23. | :39:26. | |
It may be there is no need to reinvent the wheel and I would urge | :39:27. | :39:30. | |
the Government to look around the country, look around the world, and | :39:31. | :39:34. | |
to see whether there are existing arrangements that we may be able to | :39:35. | :39:39. | |
accede to. It may well be that Nafta or TPP would welcome a dynamic, | :39:40. | :39:43. | |
outward looking free trade in Britain and we should seize those | :39:44. | :39:48. | |
opportunities if they are out there. I am very aware of the challenges, | :39:49. | :39:54. | |
in west Oxfordshire in particular, challenges but forgot to | :39:55. | :39:56. | |
agriculture, defence and finance. But I emphasise overwhelmingly the | :39:57. | :40:01. | |
positives. For components being shipped from the US that we will be | :40:02. | :40:04. | |
able to take the brightest and the best for all over the world, to | :40:05. | :40:08. | |
reform ACAP and replace it with a policy that works for us to improve | :40:09. | :40:12. | |
the environment. Mr Speaker, there is a bit into play for and they urge | :40:13. | :40:16. | |
the House to be positive and to support the Queen's Speech. -- and I | :40:17. | :40:21. | |
urge. I am going to stop the statement that many on the | :40:22. | :40:24. | |
Conservative benches will be angered by and will not believe. Throughout | :40:25. | :40:31. | |
our membership of the EU, the UK Parliament retains its sovereignty. | :40:32. | :40:37. | |
Parliament has remained sovereign throughout our membership of the EU. | :40:38. | :40:42. | |
Not my words, the words of the Secretary of State for the European | :40:43. | :40:47. | |
Union. So all this nonsense about voting to take back sovereignty was | :40:48. | :40:52. | |
exposed, was admitted to as nonsense by the Secretary of State himself. | :40:53. | :40:57. | |
-- Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union. This belongs to | :40:58. | :41:07. | |
the people who have sent us in this place and the people, from me, is a | :41:08. | :41:13. | |
red line, something which neither I nor the SNP will budge an inch on. | :41:14. | :41:18. | |
That is why 62% of our sovereigns say we wanted to stay in the EU. It | :41:19. | :41:28. | |
is not defeatist, said he respected the will of the sovereign people. If | :41:29. | :41:33. | |
the nursery can come to that is to retain our membership of the Single | :41:34. | :41:36. | |
Market and Customs union, that is what we will do. If that means that | :41:37. | :41:41. | |
Scotland looks for a different deal, as has been guaranteed to Northern | :41:42. | :41:46. | |
Ireland, Scotland needs to ask for a special deal, that is what we will | :41:47. | :41:54. | |
ask for. Can he tell us what will happen with the GMC? There seems to | :41:55. | :41:59. | |
be two of them that have been operating since the exit poll. | :42:00. | :42:04. | |
The Government attended a GMC that everyone thought was helpful and the | :42:05. | :42:12. | |
devolved nations attended one that was a total waste of time where they | :42:13. | :42:18. | |
spent 45 minutes being told what the UK Government had decided and if | :42:19. | :42:21. | |
they were lucky they might get to decide if they had milk or sugar in | :42:22. | :42:27. | |
their coffee. That is not enough and I was delighted to hear the | :42:28. | :42:35. | |
honourable member for Cardiff North insisting that government of Wales | :42:36. | :42:39. | |
must be part of these negotiations. I look forward to a member from | :42:40. | :42:46. | |
Scotland using her maiden speech to make that point. Membership of the | :42:47. | :42:52. | |
single market is not the same as access to it. Anyone who does not | :42:53. | :42:58. | |
understand that different needs to get informed. Those who understand | :42:59. | :43:02. | |
the difference and tried to pretend they are the Saints have no place in | :43:03. | :43:06. | |
this House because they are trying to con the electors. Access to the | :43:07. | :43:12. | |
single market means you can sell your tomatoes and your plums and | :43:13. | :43:16. | |
your beer and whiskey in Europe, membership of the single market | :43:17. | :43:21. | |
means Europeans have to accept your produce on the same terms as | :43:22. | :43:26. | |
everyone else's. The difference between membership and access is | :43:27. | :43:32. | |
high. The International Guild of Patagonian shoemakers have access to | :43:33. | :43:35. | |
the single market, it doesn't do them any good. Access on its own is | :43:36. | :43:43. | |
worthless, so unless we retain membership of the Customs Union, we | :43:44. | :43:47. | |
could be looking at 80,000 jobs lost in Scotland. That is a price not | :43:48. | :43:53. | |
worth paying to meet this Government's obsession with | :43:54. | :43:58. | |
immigration. They tell us we can not be in the Customs Union because we | :43:59. | :44:02. | |
have to get immigration down, but there has not been a word spoken in | :44:03. | :44:06. | |
this debate to explain why that is essential. Cutting immigration will | :44:07. | :44:14. | |
cause immense damage to or call service, public services, or economy | :44:15. | :44:19. | |
and it will make these nations less attractive and less pleasant places | :44:20. | :44:26. | |
to live in the future. The people of Bristol West are mostly Remainer is | :44:27. | :44:30. | |
an proud of it and we want the closest possible relationship with | :44:31. | :44:36. | |
the EU but we also want to press the Government on global concerns, | :44:37. | :44:41. | |
climate change, trade justice and the refugee crisis. Climate change | :44:42. | :44:46. | |
is a clear and present danger, change across the world is | :44:47. | :44:50. | |
accelerating and our commitment under the Paris agreement is to | :44:51. | :44:54. | |
limit further rises to know more than 1 degrees. We need CO2 | :44:55. | :45:00. | |
emissions to fall to zero by 2070 aye weaning ourselves off fossil | :45:01. | :45:05. | |
fuels and we need to press our ally across the Atlantic to honour their | :45:06. | :45:13. | |
commitment. An unprecedented 63.5 million people are forcibly | :45:14. | :45:16. | |
displaced worldwide due to conflict. As chair of the All-Party | :45:17. | :45:21. | |
Parliamentary Group on refugees, I spent a lot of time on refugee | :45:22. | :45:26. | |
policy but only a fraction comes to the UK. The global system is broken, | :45:27. | :45:31. | |
leaving refugees either trapped in their own country or stuck for years | :45:32. | :45:36. | |
in camps in neighbouring countries without work. Small wonder that some | :45:37. | :45:41. | |
will risk dangerous journeys to other shores but this is also | :45:42. | :45:46. | |
economically and geopolitically dangerous. If refugees cannot work | :45:47. | :45:51. | |
and provide for themselves, they lose skills and experience which | :45:52. | :45:54. | |
will be necessary to rebuild their own countries and return them to | :45:55. | :46:00. | |
stability. In Uganda refugees are allowed and supported to work or | :46:01. | :46:05. | |
start businesses. We have much to learn from other countries about how | :46:06. | :46:10. | |
to respond to refugees. The Secretary of State referred to trade | :46:11. | :46:14. | |
deals for the benefit of one country only, on the heart of the people of | :46:15. | :46:19. | |
Bristol West, I urge him and his colleagues to think more widely and | :46:20. | :46:24. | |
about least developed countries, and to integrate environmental | :46:25. | :46:31. | |
protection, human rights and an impact on developing countries into | :46:32. | :46:36. | |
all trade deals. In conclusion, we in Bristol West want this Government | :46:37. | :46:41. | |
not to get so distracted by Brexit that they neglect vital action on | :46:42. | :46:47. | |
climate change. We want to reform the international refugee system and | :46:48. | :46:50. | |
we want trade agreements to contribute to social justice. This | :46:51. | :46:56. | |
beautiful planet and everything and everyone on it, from humans to | :46:57. | :47:10. | |
microbes, cannot wait. Ian Paisley. We will hear in the meantime from | :47:11. | :47:16. | |
Kate Green. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The chamber's loss is my game. | :47:17. | :47:22. | |
Before I turned to the main topic for this debate may I say what a | :47:23. | :47:27. | |
pleasure it has been to sit through the main speeches of so many | :47:28. | :47:32. | |
honourable members and I congratulate them on lucid and | :47:33. | :47:35. | |
articulate contributions and look forward to hearing more of their | :47:36. | :47:42. | |
contributions. I also wanted to take a moment before addressing the | :47:43. | :47:46. | |
Brexit and Foreign Affairs team to touch on one other aspect of the | :47:47. | :47:50. | |
Gracious Speech in relation to funding for schools. This is an | :47:51. | :47:59. | |
important issue to Mike Aditya once. Trafford has traditionally been an | :48:00. | :48:03. | |
underfunded authority, so I started from a position of welcoming the | :48:04. | :48:08. | |
Government's position but the formula brought forward towards the | :48:09. | :48:11. | |
end of the last Parliament has been holed below the water line by the | :48:12. | :48:17. | |
lack of the overall funding in the pot, and that means we stand to see | :48:18. | :48:24. | |
real terms budget cuts of over ?14 billion by 2019 and that will mean | :48:25. | :48:27. | |
the loss of teaching and support jobs, soap and I start by saying | :48:28. | :48:34. | |
that rearranging the deck chairs, taking the deprivation funding and | :48:35. | :48:38. | |
treating it as double funding, will not do. That will put schools in my | :48:39. | :48:45. | |
constituency under pressure, we need to ensure there is enough money in | :48:46. | :48:51. | |
the total pot that a new funding formula addresses the needs of all | :48:52. | :48:54. | |
pupils and all schools. Turning to the main topic a night, I asked my | :48:55. | :49:00. | |
constituents what they thought the main focus of this Parliament should | :49:01. | :49:05. | |
be and overwhelmingly they said it should be getting the best Brexit | :49:06. | :49:09. | |
deal we can. I'm not surprised my constituents considered that so | :49:10. | :49:16. | |
significant, we are a constituency with a long history of | :49:17. | :49:20. | |
manufacturing, trading, we recognise the jobs that have come from our | :49:21. | :49:27. | |
European membership. Many businesses in my constituency operates | :49:28. | :49:31. | |
integrated EU wide operations across borders so manufacturing may take | :49:32. | :49:35. | |
place in my constituency, transferred to the Republic of | :49:36. | :49:38. | |
Ireland for packaging and back to the UK for distribution, integrated | :49:39. | :49:44. | |
operations which cannot face the courts of new barriers and tariffs | :49:45. | :49:49. | |
being placed in the wake of the operation, and they also spoke, as | :49:50. | :49:54. | |
businesses across my constituency over the past year have spoken, of | :49:55. | :49:59. | |
the importance of accessing the widest possible Labour pool, | :50:00. | :50:05. | |
industries from papermaking to hospitality, we need to be be able | :50:06. | :50:11. | |
to access an international Labour pool and I'd have heard this set | :50:12. | :50:16. | |
three of state for exiting the European Union acknowledge the | :50:17. | :50:20. | |
importance of not shutting the door on the European Labour pool and the | :50:21. | :50:23. | |
time it will take for us to build up the skills in our own Labour market. | :50:24. | :50:29. | |
All of that says to me that what we need to keep on the table, as the | :50:30. | :50:35. | |
member for Holborn and St Pancras said, is the option to remain in the | :50:36. | :50:39. | |
Customs Union and I would go further and say the single market. If those | :50:40. | :50:44. | |
are the benefits we think are important across the House, and I | :50:45. | :50:49. | |
think we do, why not take on board the fact we have structures in place | :50:50. | :50:54. | |
within the EU that would deliver them? And I hope we will not knock | :50:55. | :51:00. | |
off the table ideas that can be made to work for us simply vote of a | :51:01. | :51:05. | |
misreading of the referendum result, a misreading of what is in the | :51:06. | :51:09. | |
interests of the Conservative Party but not the country, and I was | :51:10. | :51:13. | |
pleased to hear the legislative consent will be asked of the | :51:14. | :51:20. | |
devolved... Thank you, Mr Speaker, and I congratulate those members who | :51:21. | :51:22. | |
made their maiden speeches this evening. I once drove through at | :51:23. | :51:30. | |
snowstorm to get from Darlington to Jabra. I drove over the border | :51:31. | :51:40. | |
between Scotland and England, I had manoeuvred a rear wheel drive | :51:41. | :51:43. | |
automatic through difficult terrain and a snowstorm, then it dawned on | :51:44. | :51:48. | |
me the second half of the journey would be the hard bit. A steep | :51:49. | :51:53. | |
decline was no road markings and every chance of running off the road | :51:54. | :52:00. | |
and that is my Brexit allegory. The Prime Minister and her cohorts have | :52:01. | :52:03. | |
marched us up to the top of the hill, only to discover it is a cliff | :52:04. | :52:09. | |
edge. Plenty of people have negotiated difficult journeys but I | :52:10. | :52:15. | |
fear the journey ahead will be dangerous because those leading it | :52:16. | :52:18. | |
will not admit how hard it will be. They should seek out every pitfall | :52:19. | :52:24. | |
and identify the hazards but instead we have been fed a diatribe of | :52:25. | :52:30. | |
jingoistic cliches. It was a mess before the election and the Prime | :52:31. | :52:35. | |
Minister's selfish actions have not complicated matters. The DUP will | :52:36. | :52:43. | |
choose to provide their boats when it suits them and provide ?1 billion | :52:44. | :52:49. | |
worth of tissues when it goes wrong. This brave new world seems to be | :52:50. | :52:54. | |
based on empire mentality of like waving as we turn our backs on the | :52:55. | :53:00. | |
EU and seek to trade new agreements, we will require diplomacy and | :53:01. | :53:04. | |
negotiating skills, things that have so far been absent in the Brexit | :53:05. | :53:10. | |
mess. That is one reason I have been delighted to hear that politicians | :53:11. | :53:14. | |
across the EU have been prepared to add their support for Scotland to | :53:15. | :53:17. | |
remain in the EU and the single market but the UK was committed to | :53:18. | :53:25. | |
the EU, the same voices remained silence but by serving Article 50, | :53:26. | :53:30. | |
the UK has turned its back on the EU and the single market, so that the | :53:31. | :53:34. | |
guilty of previous partners has been lost. Where is Scotland's influence? | :53:35. | :53:45. | |
The only 8.6% of the population of the UK, the Scottish fishing zone is | :53:46. | :53:50. | |
over 60% of UK waters, the fourth largest sea barrier in the U core | :53:51. | :53:57. | |
walkers. Scotland has a deep 2% of the land area, 40% of the wind, wave | :53:58. | :54:07. | |
and solar energy, 47% of the open-cast coal production, 65% of | :54:08. | :54:12. | |
natural gas production, 81% of untapped coal reserves, 92% of | :54:13. | :54:21. | |
hydroelectric power, 96.5% of crude oral production and 100% of Scotch | :54:22. | :54:28. | |
whiskey, yet we have no voice if these negotiations are to have any | :54:29. | :54:33. | |
credibility, then the Scottish Government must either place. | :54:34. | :54:39. | |
Anything less is a flagrant disregard for the Democratic | :54:40. | :54:41. | |
standings of this United Kingdom. Ian Paisley. I hope when the Foreign | :54:42. | :54:49. | |
Secretary brings his concluding remarks he makes it clear that the | :54:50. | :54:54. | |
discussions will not be contingent upon what the devolved assemblies | :54:55. | :54:59. | |
do. He will take their view but they will have no veto over the will of | :55:00. | :55:04. | |
the British people for the entirety of the kingdom. A lot has been said | :55:05. | :55:09. | |
about the relationship between Northern Ireland and the Republic of | :55:10. | :55:13. | |
Ireland and I want to focus on the Republic because it stands to lose | :55:14. | :55:19. | |
most out of Brexit, not Northern Ireland, as some people have tried | :55:20. | :55:26. | |
to unfair to night. Agree we need a frictionless border, that is good | :55:27. | :55:29. | |
for Northern Irish trade, but the border must not become the weak link | :55:30. | :55:34. | |
in security terms. We must not sacrifice the security of any of the | :55:35. | :55:40. | |
People's of the United Kingdom or the people of the Republic of | :55:41. | :55:44. | |
Ireland on an open border if we cannot protect our people. Last week | :55:45. | :55:51. | |
I informed the House that security analysts had made it clear that | :55:52. | :55:55. | |
levels of radicalisation are worryingly high in the Republic of | :55:56. | :56:00. | |
Ireland. If that is the case, let's face up to wit and address that | :56:01. | :56:04. | |
matter. The five issues which President Tusk and Mr Barnier wished | :56:05. | :56:11. | |
to agree with Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, a unique | :56:12. | :56:16. | |
relationship between our two countries avoiding a hard border, | :56:17. | :56:21. | |
keeping the Common travel area in place and that we do not harm the | :56:22. | :56:27. | |
Republic of Ireland's trading relationship with the UK and | :56:28. | :56:31. | |
maintain the peace between our nations, all those issues are almost | :56:32. | :56:34. | |
exclusively the gift of Michel Barnier. The House should have | :56:35. | :56:41. | |
recognise that, he can do more to ensure those five things are | :56:42. | :56:45. | |
maintained than anyone else in the discussions and I urge the Republic | :56:46. | :56:48. | |
of Ireland to take up the same position as the UK because they | :56:49. | :56:55. | |
cannot afford to remain on critical of the EU and the EU should not | :56:56. | :57:00. | |
blackmail the Republic of Ireland as it should not be allowed to | :57:01. | :57:04. | |
blackmail Northern Ireland. I wish to put on record the comments of the | :57:05. | :57:10. | |
director of social policy at Trinity College Dublin. He said this in a | :57:11. | :57:15. | |
letter to the leader of the Democratic Unionist Party, that if | :57:16. | :57:19. | |
the Government of the Republic of Ireland is so foolish as to seek to | :57:20. | :57:24. | |
stay in the EU when Northern Ireland and the UK leave the EU, it is the | :57:25. | :57:29. | |
Republic of Ireland, not the UK, that will be putting the common | :57:30. | :57:33. | |
Anglo Irish travel and trade area at rest. -- at risk. | :57:34. | :57:40. | |
The onus is on the Republic of Ireland to address its problem with | :57:41. | :57:46. | |
Europe, not for Northern Ireland. Since 2014, the Republic of Ireland | :57:47. | :57:56. | |
has been paying 1.7 billion to be a member of the EU. I will give way. | :57:57. | :58:01. | |
Will the honourable gentleman also agree there is another border | :58:02. | :58:05. | |
between the EU and the UK and that is between Gibraltar and Spain? What | :58:06. | :58:11. | |
is his view on that? Those I fully support but do not have time to deal | :58:12. | :58:16. | |
with that issue at this particular point. Post-Brexit, the Republic of | :58:17. | :58:19. | |
Ireland will be required to pay even more to make up for the UK leaving | :58:20. | :58:24. | |
the EU, and I would say that all of the trading issues between the | :58:25. | :58:30. | |
Republic of Ireland and the UK show very clearly that the Republic of | :58:31. | :58:34. | |
Ireland can do far better I leaving the EU along with the UK. I hope the | :58:35. | :58:41. | |
Republic of Ireland gets that message, get it loud and clear and | :58:42. | :58:46. | |
recognises it can do more for our common citizenship by doing that and | :58:47. | :58:51. | |
by leaving the EU along with us. It has been a pleasure this afternoon | :58:52. | :58:54. | |
and this evening to take part in a debate which has seen such excellent | :58:55. | :58:59. | |
maiden speeches from both sides of the House. A year ago, the country | :59:00. | :59:06. | |
voted very narrowly to leave the EU. The Prime Minister has spent the | :59:07. | :59:08. | |
last year trying to articulate her version of Brexit and in calling the | :59:09. | :59:14. | |
election, she sought explicitly to strengthen her mandate to deliver a | :59:15. | :59:19. | |
hard Brexit. The country looked at the Prime Minister's version of | :59:20. | :59:23. | |
Brexit and did not supported. On her own terms, she failed and she has no | :59:24. | :59:26. | |
mandate to negotiate the hard Brexit for which she has sought support. My | :59:27. | :59:31. | |
constituents voted overwhelmingly to remain in the EU and I stood in the | :59:32. | :59:36. | |
general election on a firm promise that if re-elected I would continue | :59:37. | :59:40. | |
to be a strong voice for their firmly pro-remain views. I'm pleased | :59:41. | :59:45. | |
they give me that mandate, more than 50% of the total registered | :59:46. | :59:48. | |
electorate returned me to this House and I stand firm in my commitment to | :59:49. | :59:53. | |
represent them and to speak up for a continued relationship with the EU, | :59:54. | :59:58. | |
which reflects our values of tolerance, diversity and | :59:59. | :00:01. | |
internationalism of which protects our jobs and public services, our | :00:02. | :00:05. | |
environment and our rights at work and enables the UK to play the | :00:06. | :00:09. | |
fullest possible role in working for peace and security in an | :00:10. | :00:12. | |
increasingly unstable world. Mr Speaker, while the country voted to | :00:13. | :00:16. | |
leave the EU, not a single person in the UK voted to become poorer, to | :00:17. | :00:21. | |
damage our public services or to live in a country that is less fair | :00:22. | :00:26. | |
or less safe. Yet, we are seeing these impacts in the fall in the | :00:27. | :00:30. | |
value of the pound and in increasing inflation, and the calamitous drop | :00:31. | :00:35. | |
in the number of EU nationals filling nursing vacancies or study | :00:36. | :00:39. | |
at UK universities. Brexit is harming the UK. It is the duty and | :00:40. | :00:43. | |
responsibility of this House to scrutinise the Government's approach | :00:44. | :00:47. | |
to it and call a halt to any aspect of the process which will result in | :00:48. | :00:53. | |
material damage to our country. So I have some clear questions, will the | :00:54. | :00:55. | |
Government except that leaving the Single Market in the customs union | :00:56. | :01:01. | |
are not inevitable of leaving the EU and put them back on the negotiating | :01:02. | :01:05. | |
table? The Single Market and customs union are vital for British jobs and | :01:06. | :01:08. | |
businesses because they provide the tariff free access to the largest | :01:09. | :01:12. | |
internal market for our goods and services. That they are also | :01:13. | :01:15. | |
important because they are based on shared values and governed by a | :01:16. | :01:19. | |
framework of rules which create not only the largest international | :01:20. | :01:25. | |
market but also the fairest. They provide a basis for trade which | :01:26. | :01:27. | |
ensures protection for workers in relation to employment rates and | :01:28. | :01:30. | |
health and safety at work and for our environment. Will the government | :01:31. | :01:34. | |
provide assurances in seeking to negotiate additional trade | :01:35. | :01:38. | |
agreements with other economic communities, but this environmental | :01:39. | :01:42. | |
protection, employment rates and health and safety centre stage, or | :01:43. | :01:44. | |
were they sacrifice our high standards in to the bottom to enable | :01:45. | :01:49. | |
the UK to compete in markets where costs are lower is -- lower because | :01:50. | :01:54. | |
key protections are not in place? The Prime Minister medically today | :01:55. | :01:57. | |
that EU nationals living in the UK are still pawns in the gun | :01:58. | :02:01. | |
negotiating strategy. -- the Prime Minister medically. They make a | :02:02. | :02:06. | |
vital contribution to our economy and communities. But even if she is | :02:07. | :02:10. | |
able to secure a job lines she has set out, it is still not clear on | :02:11. | :02:14. | |
what basis the EU nationals who we urgently need to work on our economy | :02:15. | :02:18. | |
and public services will be able to come to the UK in the future. So I | :02:19. | :02:24. | |
call on the Government today to urgently set out a positive | :02:25. | :02:28. | |
unwelcoming approach to immigration and to explain how the key workforce | :02:29. | :02:34. | |
needs of the UK for our NHS, construction industry, agriculture | :02:35. | :02:36. | |
and scientific research, can continue to be met in the future. | :02:37. | :02:45. | |
May I start by saying how delighted I am to see that the Foreign | :02:46. | :02:49. | |
Secretary is actually taking part in this debate on foreign policy? | :02:50. | :02:52. | |
During the election night and up to a number of foreign policy debates, | :02:53. | :03:00. | |
one at Radio 4, and other at Sky, and he was nowhere to be seen. | :03:01. | :03:07. | |
Debates had to be cancelled because he refused to take part. I saw the | :03:08. | :03:14. | |
Foreign Secretary having wrestling matches on television with my good | :03:15. | :03:16. | |
friend the Communities Secretary and I have to admit I felt what can only | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
be described as a pang of jealousy because I thought, when is Boris | :03:21. | :03:25. | |
going to come and try and wrestle me? But I'm glad to see he is | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
involved in the debate today. Mr Speaker, it is also good to see so | :03:30. | :03:33. | |
many new members present for this important debate. We have had some | :03:34. | :03:37. | |
excellent contributions for those making their maiden speeches. The | :03:38. | :03:43. | |
member for Bristol North West spoke with such great eloquence about the | :03:44. | :03:47. | |
Brexit Parliament and I have always believed this House can do more, | :03:48. | :03:54. | |
particularly those from council estates, and he has shown why. The | :03:55. | :03:58. | |
new member for Plymouth Sutton and Devonport delivered a speech of | :03:59. | :04:02. | |
great passion, talking about the importance of frigates to our | :04:03. | :04:05. | |
national defence, demonstrating the pride he has for his own town. I | :04:06. | :04:09. | |
think the people of Plymouth will be equally proud to count him among | :04:10. | :04:13. | |
their MPs. The member for Cardiff North showed what a powerful voice | :04:14. | :04:17. | |
she will be in this House not just for our constituents but | :04:18. | :04:22. | |
particularly the heartbroken and terrified Tesco workers who have | :04:23. | :04:25. | |
lost their jobs. But also she's spoke about half of citizens of the | :04:26. | :04:29. | |
whole world when dealing with the reality of climate change, something | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
I will will return to myself. We also had maiden speeches for other | :04:34. | :04:39. | |
members for West Aberdeen and Kincardine, who made a confident and | :04:40. | :04:42. | |
entertaining performance, the member for Mansfield, and in my spirit of | :04:43. | :04:53. | |
generosity, may I say, can I welcome the honourable lady for Eastern | :04:54. | :04:59. | |
Bodiger back to this place? Mr Speaker, -- East Dunbartonshire. I | :05:00. | :05:01. | |
congratulate all new members and I only wish that there was that their | :05:02. | :05:06. | |
maiden speeches would be debating a Queen's Speech which was worthy of | :05:07. | :05:10. | |
its name. Let us be honest, this was not one. The Prime Minister promised | :05:11. | :05:14. | |
the Government red-faced -- tackle the big issues but instead got a | :05:15. | :05:17. | |
Queen's Speech that knocked everyone of them. It is timid on domestic | :05:18. | :05:22. | |
policy, vacuous on-farm piracy, unimpressive, just a bunch of bills | :05:23. | :05:27. | |
whose titles we know but whose contents remain mystery. I want to | :05:28. | :05:31. | |
praise the Foreign Secretary because at least he was the only member of | :05:32. | :05:36. | |
the who had the foresight to put absolutely no policies in his | :05:37. | :05:40. | |
section of the manifesto. So he was not only embarrassing situation of | :05:41. | :05:43. | |
having to abandon them later in the Queen's Speech. 2285 words in the | :05:44. | :05:50. | |
Tory manifesto devoted to global Britain in an uncertain world, only | :05:51. | :05:55. | |
one nation that was mentioned by name, which was Donald Trump's | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
United States, Korea, China, not a word. Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, | :06:01. | :06:07. | |
Yemen, Syria, Daesh, none of them mentioned. I hope members opposite | :06:08. | :06:13. | |
relays- unprecedented that is. This was only the second Tory manifesto | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
since Yom Kippur, not even to mention the Middle East. In the same | :06:18. | :06:24. | |
section of the 2015 Tory manifesto, separate policies were set out on 23 | :06:25. | :06:28. | |
different countries. Now this Government is just down to one. The | :06:29. | :06:37. | |
question is, why? Why is the Tory manifesto such a blank space when it | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
comes to foreign policy? The answer is clear, there are still foreign | :06:41. | :06:46. | |
policy ambition is to stay in lockstep with Donald Trump. Whatever | :06:47. | :06:51. | |
Hill he chooses to march us up next, it means we are left with a | :06:52. | :06:55. | |
Government which no longer knows its own mind on foreign policy because | :06:56. | :07:00. | |
they are beholden to a President who keeps changing his. And nowhere was | :07:01. | :07:04. | |
this more pathetically exposed down on the Paris agreement on climate | :07:05. | :07:10. | |
change. In November, two weeks after Donald Trump's election, I stood | :07:11. | :07:14. | |
here and I urged the Foreign Secretary to make Paris the first | :07:15. | :07:17. | |
priority in talks with him and what did he say in response? My concerns | :07:18. | :07:23. | |
were premature. And at the end of March posted here again and they | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
said, we must tell Donald Trump that Britain would not stand by in | :07:28. | :07:31. | |
silence while he wrecked the Paris agreement. Again, what did the | :07:32. | :07:35. | |
Foreign Secretary say? He said I was being too pessimistic. He said, | :07:36. | :07:39. | |
quote, we have heard the mutterings of the right honourable lady butler | :07:40. | :07:43. | |
to see what the American Administration does. I think she | :07:44. | :07:48. | |
will be pleasantly surprised. Well what we have now seen, I was not | :07:49. | :07:54. | |
surprise and I certainly did not find it pleasant. But what makes | :07:55. | :07:58. | |
it's a much worse was the frankly spineless response of this | :07:59. | :08:01. | |
Government, rather than join the legion of world leaders on the US | :08:02. | :08:05. | |
may assign governors and business chiefs around the globe in | :08:06. | :08:12. | |
condemning trompe's withdrawal from Paris, our Prime Minister would only | :08:13. | :08:15. | |
say that she felt disappointed. -- condemning Donald Trump's | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
withdrawal. The Foreign Secretary said it was not for Britain to weave | :08:20. | :08:22. | |
two fingers at the US President but if he gets a chance to organise | :08:23. | :08:28. | |
Donald Trump's visit he will see how British people feel about waving | :08:29. | :08:32. | |
fingers. But this whole sorry episode begs the question, the | :08:33. | :08:37. | |
question at the heart of today's debate, which is, if this Government | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
cannot persuade Britain was my closest ally to stick to the Paris | :08:42. | :08:44. | |
agreement and if they cannot even stand up to him when he refuses to | :08:45. | :08:49. | |
do so, what chance have they got of getting the rest of Europe to give | :08:50. | :08:52. | |
us a deal we want on Brexit? The answer is none. If they continue | :08:53. | :08:58. | |
down the current path, the inevitable result will be Britain | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
crashing out of Europe in just over 600 days in a state of total chaos | :09:03. | :09:07. | |
with millions of jobs and have our trade in jeopardy. I have absolutely | :09:08. | :09:11. | |
no doubt the Foreign Secretary will then stand up and tell Mick Higham | :09:12. | :09:16. | |
been premature. He will say I am being overly pessimistic. That I | :09:17. | :09:19. | |
will be pleasantly surprise. All I have to say to him his, that is what | :09:20. | :09:25. | |
you said about Paris. If we are hoping for a different and, Brexit | :09:26. | :09:29. | |
with this Government, with this Queen's Speech, with the same crack | :09:30. | :09:33. | |
team of negotiators sitting opposite, well, we might as well | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
give up now. But it does not have to be this way. We could have Foreign | :09:39. | :09:41. | |
Secretary and a Brexit Secretary working night and day to get the | :09:42. | :09:45. | |
best deal for Britain, not fighting like Cats and dogs about who will be | :09:46. | :09:49. | |
the next leader. We could have a Government leading a country to a | :09:50. | :09:53. | |
better and more prosperous future, not a Queen's Speech devoid of | :09:54. | :09:58. | |
ideas, hope or vision. We could have a Prime Minister, of principle and | :09:59. | :10:01. | |
strength, able to stand tall with European leaders and stand up to | :10:02. | :10:06. | |
Donald Trump are not a hopeless Tory leader just trying to make it | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
through the summer. With all that info is, we could have a Britain | :10:11. | :10:13. | |
that actually have a foreign policy of its own, a Britain ready once | :10:14. | :10:18. | |
again to be a beacon of strength and security, prosperity and values for | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
every country around the world. And this Queen's Speech does nothing to | :10:23. | :10:27. | |
advance that. This Government is doing nothing to advance that. They | :10:28. | :10:32. | |
are too weak, they are too shambolic and they are too divided to take | :10:33. | :10:36. | |
this country forward, and it is about time we got a Government that | :10:37. | :10:45. | |
good. -- that could. Mr Speaker, this has been an excellent debate, | :10:46. | :10:51. | |
it has been land marked by a succession of first-rate maiden | :10:52. | :10:57. | |
speeches. I single out Cardiff North, very passionately in the | :10:58. | :11:01. | |
cause of social justice, the new member for Mansfield who should | :11:02. | :11:06. | |
exactly fight he is the first member of our party to capture that seat | :11:07. | :11:12. | |
for 100 years. The new member for Plymouth, who spoke movingly of his | :11:13. | :11:15. | |
predecessor's in vain for hedgehogs and indeed a rather important matter | :11:16. | :11:22. | |
of that great port. And the member for West of a teacher and | :11:23. | :11:26. | |
Kincardine, who spoke for many in this chamber -- West Aberdeenshire | :11:27. | :11:32. | |
when he said it was time for the whole House to come together in the | :11:33. | :11:37. | |
national interest and get Brexit done. After about 37 speeches, my | :11:38. | :11:44. | |
abiding impression actually is there is far more that unites this House | :11:45. | :11:49. | |
in our approach to Brexit across both sides of the chamber than | :11:50. | :11:55. | |
divides it. More confidence in this country's future than you would | :11:56. | :11:59. | |
expect from some of the coverage in the media. I was particularly | :12:00. | :12:04. | |
pleased to hear the member for Broxtowe say that we have a good | :12:05. | :12:09. | |
economy and a bright future. She is entirely correct. | :12:10. | :12:14. | |
The members for fair and Witney and Sleaford and Stratford and many | :12:15. | :12:21. | |
others raise their voices in favour of free trade deals and not a single | :12:22. | :12:33. | |
Labour voice, not Holborn, not the honourable member for Holborn and | :12:34. | :12:38. | |
some pancreas, not the member for East Fife not the member for | :12:39. | :12:45. | |
Islington North and Finsbury. None of them dissented from the point | :12:46. | :12:51. | |
made so powerfully early on by the right honourable gentleman, the | :12:52. | :12:54. | |
leader of the Labour Party, who said it was his ambition to make sure | :12:55. | :13:00. | |
Brexit delivered new free trade deals around the world. None of them | :13:01. | :13:06. | |
dissented and the political consequence means coming out of the | :13:07. | :13:10. | |
Customs Union. There is far more agreement, I think he's a Labour MP, | :13:11. | :13:21. | |
Mr Speaker... As far as I understand the constitutional position, none of | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
them dissented from that fundamental understanding about Brexit and there | :13:27. | :13:32. | |
is far more that unites us than divides us and I think confidence is | :13:33. | :13:39. | |
right and justified in our country because it is that ideal, that | :13:40. | :13:44. | |
belief in free trade that is continuing to lift billions of | :13:45. | :13:47. | |
people out of poverty around the world. In 1990 37% of the world live | :13:48. | :13:56. | |
in absolute poverty, that figure has now gone down to 10% and is falling, | :13:57. | :14:03. | |
and where there is a crisis in the world, wherever there is terror, | :14:04. | :14:08. | |
conflict, you will find it is the United Kingdom that is in the | :14:09. | :14:15. | |
forefront of trying to tackle those scourges, whether in Iraq and Syria, | :14:16. | :14:20. | |
where we should be proud the RAF is delivering more air strikes against | :14:21. | :14:26. | |
Daesh, than any other air force are parked in the united states in the | :14:27. | :14:32. | |
face of a revanchist and resurgent Russia, it is the UK that has kept | :14:33. | :14:37. | |
up the pressure for sanctions over what they have done in the Ukraine, | :14:38. | :14:42. | |
as the member for Molden rightly pointed out earlier on in the face | :14:43. | :14:48. | |
of the bloodcurdling threat from North Korea, it is this country in | :14:49. | :14:55. | |
the UN that has helped to marshal a coalition against what Kim Jong-un | :14:56. | :15:01. | |
is doing and that coalition now for the first time really includes the | :15:02. | :15:08. | |
Chinese and I believe that is an important and hopeful development | :15:09. | :15:14. | |
for our world. One of the most grisly conflicts currently taking | :15:15. | :15:19. | |
place in sub-Saharan Africa, it is this country that is sending 400 | :15:20. | :15:23. | |
peacekeepers to South Suzanne and we can be proud of what they are doing | :15:24. | :15:28. | |
and when you look at the crisis that has broken out in the Gulf, the | :15:29. | :15:32. | |
dispute between some of our closest friends, I can assure members it is | :15:33. | :15:40. | |
to the UK that the world is looking to help to resolve the crisis and it | :15:41. | :15:43. | |
will take time but I have no doubt we will get there and it's because | :15:44. | :15:54. | |
the world looks to Britain and because the work of the UK overseas | :15:55. | :16:01. | |
is so vital for global security and stability, I think it's absolutely | :16:02. | :16:07. | |
vital that we should resist the temptation to run down our defences. | :16:08. | :16:13. | |
And to abrogate our responsibilities to our friends and partners around | :16:14. | :16:17. | |
the world. I will certainly give way though I must wind-up. I wonder if | :16:18. | :16:25. | |
he feels equally proud of the UK's role in selling arms to Saudi Arabia | :16:26. | :16:31. | |
that then find their way to Yemen? As the right honourable lady knows, | :16:32. | :16:37. | |
the UK holds the pen at the UN in trying to bring a resolution to the | :16:38. | :16:42. | |
crisis in Yemen and as the Prime Minister said earlier today, of | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
course there is a humanitarian disaster taking place but it is a | :16:48. | :16:52. | |
folly and an allusion to believe that disaster is in anyway the | :16:53. | :16:57. | |
responsibility the UK. The policy she advocates of disengagement, not | :16:58. | :17:06. | |
being involved at all, that would void us of any influence in bringing | :17:07. | :17:10. | |
about a peaceful resolution in Yemen. I understand the point she | :17:11. | :17:19. | |
makes. We can be justly proud of the work that is being done in the UN | :17:20. | :17:25. | |
and elsewhere on trying to solve the Yemen crisis and as my right | :17:26. | :17:29. | |
honourable friend the member for Reigate pointed out, it is | :17:30. | :17:35. | |
absolutely right that we should be proud of our entire diplomatic | :17:36. | :17:40. | |
network, our superb Armed Forces and I thought members on all sides of | :17:41. | :17:44. | |
the House spoke well about the strength of our Armed Forces, | :17:45. | :17:50. | |
members for Cardiff and Penarth and Plymouth and others and our | :17:51. | :17:53. | |
intelligence services that are admired around the world and in this | :17:54. | :17:59. | |
Queen's Speech we will take new powers to set our own sanctions | :18:00. | :18:05. | |
policy and I have alluded already to the importance of sanctions in | :18:06. | :18:11. | |
respect of Ukraine and I trust that Bill in the spirit of unity that we | :18:12. | :18:15. | |
have seen in much of this debate, I trust that Bill will attract | :18:16. | :18:22. | |
cross-party support but perhaps even more important than our hard power, | :18:23. | :18:28. | |
and don't forget that this country is the second biggest military power | :18:29. | :18:32. | |
in Nato with the new aircraft carrier putting forth to see, the | :18:33. | :18:38. | |
Defence Secretary nodded, the new aircraft carrier putting forth | :18:39. | :18:42. | |
today, the biggest ship ever built in this country, I believe it is | :18:43. | :18:48. | |
longer than the House of Commons, the Houses of Parliament, the palace | :18:49. | :18:53. | |
of Westminster itself, but even more important than our military role, | :18:54. | :19:03. | |
and don't forget as a country our military forces are engaged in 33 | :19:04. | :19:08. | |
countries around the world, far more than any other European country, but | :19:09. | :19:15. | |
I will give way. I thank the Foreign Secretary Ford giving way. They see | :19:16. | :19:21. | |
willing to commit to the level of 82,004 our army and what does he | :19:22. | :19:26. | |
have to say about the chronic levels of under recruitment? With all those | :19:27. | :19:29. | |
commitments abroad we should be boosting our numbers. I | :19:30. | :19:36. | |
congratulated him on his remarks about our Armed Forces and I'm glad | :19:37. | :19:40. | |
to see he supports our Armed Forces on his benches and he will know that | :19:41. | :19:49. | |
we are not only committed to spending 82 -- 8% of our GDP on the | :19:50. | :19:57. | |
fences but further 0.5 increment year until 2020 and we will maintain | :19:58. | :20:05. | |
the size of our Armed Forces, which are the best in the world, but even | :20:06. | :20:16. | |
more important than our military firepower, even more important than | :20:17. | :20:20. | |
our vast aid budget, is Britain's soft power. Our aid budget, the Lady | :20:21. | :20:27. | |
interjects, she says our aid budget is not vast. I can't tell the | :20:28. | :20:33. | |
honourable lady, having now spent a year in this job, the world is lost | :20:34. | :20:39. | |
in admiration for how much we spend on international development and the | :20:40. | :20:45. | |
Affleck as a take of British aid spending and she should be proud of | :20:46. | :20:52. | |
what DFID does. It is a huge sum of money and I think the only question | :20:53. | :20:57. | |
is how we can make sure that wonderful aid budget is used to | :20:58. | :21:02. | |
deliver the political and economic objectives of this country more | :21:03. | :21:07. | |
effectively and that is what we are working on, and even more important | :21:08. | :21:14. | |
than our aid budget is our soft power, this sometimes invisible | :21:15. | :21:17. | |
network by which our ideas and values are projected around the | :21:18. | :21:21. | |
world and through our partnerships and friendships in Europe and the | :21:22. | :21:29. | |
overseas territories and dependencies and a couple of | :21:30. | :21:32. | |
honourable members asked about the future of Gibraltar, let us be | :21:33. | :21:37. | |
clear, the sovereignty of Gibraltar is inviolable and will remain so as | :21:38. | :21:43. | |
long as this Government is in power. I give way. The honourable gentleman | :21:44. | :21:52. | |
is a work it is not a question of sovereignty for Gibraltar at what | :21:53. | :21:57. | |
its trading relationship will be, how will people move backwards and | :21:58. | :22:01. | |
forwards into Gibraltar and Spain and continued to trade, it's their | :22:02. | :22:06. | |
economic position which is important. As she will understand, | :22:07. | :22:12. | |
we are bound to protect the economic interests of the people of | :22:13. | :22:17. | |
Gibraltar, not least, and I think this point can be made in respect of | :22:18. | :22:23. | |
the whole argument about Brexit, not least because a strong Gibraltar and | :22:24. | :22:29. | |
a robust Gibraltar economy is in the interests of Spain. We will get that | :22:30. | :22:36. | |
done and of course we have many networks around the world, not only | :22:37. | :22:42. | |
in the territories but in the Commonwealth, 52 nations who will | :22:43. | :22:47. | |
come to London next year for a landmark summit, through our | :22:48. | :22:53. | |
languages, universities, broadcasting, it is a stunning fact | :22:54. | :22:59. | |
that we sell ?1.3 billion worth of TV programmes abroad, almost ten | :23:00. | :23:05. | |
times as much TV programmes as the French. I'm delighted to say. I | :23:06. | :23:14. | |
don't wish to be chauvinistic and our biggest single market for UK TV | :23:15. | :23:23. | |
programmes in Europe is France itself and I'm delighted to tell you | :23:24. | :23:27. | |
we project ourselves through our music and through the broadcasting | :23:28. | :23:33. | |
of that music and of great musical festivals in which this country | :23:34. | :23:40. | |
specialises, and when this weekend the BBC, as it did, broadcast | :23:41. | :23:46. | |
Glastonbury around the world, Glastonbury... It's in the South | :23:47. | :23:58. | |
West. I can tell you that watching it and I know it was different for | :23:59. | :24:03. | |
the people who spent ?285 to be among the crowd and watch elderly | :24:04. | :24:08. | |
people like Kris Kristofferson, I can tell you that when they saw | :24:09. | :24:15. | |
those extraordinary scenes on the stage at Glastonbury, there were | :24:16. | :24:21. | |
friends and admirers of this country around the world who would genuinely | :24:22. | :24:29. | |
alarmed that at a time of such uncertainty, the leader of the main | :24:30. | :24:35. | |
opposition party in this country should have exercised such an | :24:36. | :24:42. | |
awestruck spell on those who had previously been his opponents that | :24:43. | :24:50. | |
they have neatly acceded to his desire, not just to run down our | :24:51. | :24:55. | |
defences but as he said on the stage of Glastonbury, as he said on the | :24:56. | :25:04. | |
stage of Glastonbury, he would scrap our nuclear defence. That's what he | :25:05. | :25:13. | |
said. That's what he said! And that will have gone around the world, Mr | :25:14. | :25:19. | |
Speaker, around the world that the leader of the main opposition party | :25:20. | :25:23. | |
in this country is committed to getting rid of the fundamentals of | :25:24. | :25:28. | |
our nuclear defence, not merely imperilling our own safety but the | :25:29. | :25:35. | |
safety of our friends and allies, and Mr Speaker, that is not this | :25:36. | :25:41. | |
Government's way, that is not the right way for this country and that | :25:42. | :25:47. | |
is why we need a strong, open, confident, outward looking Britain | :25:48. | :25:51. | |
for the good of our people and the world and I commend this global | :25:52. | :25:56. | |
speech for the House. The question is that the debate be now adjourned. | :25:57. | :25:59. | |
As many as are of the opinion, say "aye". To the contrary, "no". I | :26:00. | :26:04. | |
think the ayes have it. Debate to be resumed what day? Tomorrow. We come | :26:05. | :26:11. | |
now to the adjournment. The whip to move. I beg that this House do now | :26:12. | :26:20. | |
adjourned. The question is that this House do now adjourned. If members | :26:21. | :26:27. | |
insist inexplicably upon leaving and denying themselves the chance to | :26:28. | :26:31. | |
hear the adjournment debate, perhaps they will do so quickly and quietly | :26:32. | :26:36. | |
so the House can attend to the words and messages of Mr Jim Fitzpatrick. | :26:37. | :26:43. | |
I'm grateful for the opportunity to raise the tragic when full tower | :26:44. | :26:47. | |
fire and put on record number of questions for the Government, most | :26:48. | :26:54. | |
of which are on the record already, especially after the statement by | :26:55. | :26:58. | |
the Secretary of State. I will not cover at the awful response by | :26:59. | :27:01. | |
authorities locally to survivors that I want to pay tribute to all | :27:02. | :27:07. | |
those who tried to help, volunteers and officials, and the member for | :27:08. | :27:11. | |
Kensington who has performed admirably in service of her of the | :27:12. | :27:13. | |
joints. I have been asked to make many | :27:14. | :27:21. | |
comments of the fire and I need to say I am no fire prevention expert, | :27:22. | :27:27. | |
I was an operational fireman for 13 years and an elected of the -- union | :27:28. | :27:32. | |
official so I am no expert but I know many who are, who worked with | :27:33. | :27:38. | |
the Parliamentary group and in the field of firefighting, fire | :27:39. | :27:41. | |
protection and fire prevention and of course I had my officials in the | :27:42. | :27:44. | |
department who are also very knowledgeable. Armed with that | :27:45. | :27:49. | |
assistance, experience and common sense, there are many questions to | :27:50. | :27:54. | |
ask or rather want to use say the public -- see the public enquiry | :27:55. | :27:58. | |
address. It would be helpful if the Minister can inform the House any | :27:59. | :28:01. | |
details of when more might be known about the enquiry which will face | :28:02. | :28:06. | |
many questions. For example, the source of the fire, the rapidity of | :28:07. | :28:10. | |
the spread of fire, the catastrophic failure of all the fire protection | :28:11. | :28:14. | |
features the building should have contained, the building's | :28:15. | :28:18. | |
refurbishment, the official, the original specifications of the | :28:19. | :28:24. | |
material is actually used in the work and the finish, the monitoring | :28:25. | :28:27. | |
of building control, the inspection of the completed job by the council, | :28:28. | :28:32. | |
the designated responsible person and the Fire Service, the | :28:33. | :28:36. | |
recommendations of the coroner's enquiry concerning a review of | :28:37. | :28:40. | |
building regulations guidance and approved documentation and the role | :28:41. | :28:45. | |
of the building regulations advisory committee, and I will finish with | :28:46. | :28:49. | |
the question about the Government's decision not to equip new schools | :28:50. | :28:54. | |
with sprinklers, reversing advice they should have sprinklers | :28:55. | :28:59. | |
published in 2008. Mr Speaker, you may know, I would be surprised if | :29:00. | :29:04. | |
you do not, that my original bid for an adjournment debate this week was | :29:05. | :29:08. | |
on the subject of government and accountability, registered social | :29:09. | :29:13. | |
landlords and housing associations. Obviously, matters changed shortly | :29:14. | :29:18. | |
after that and I read tendered my bit. When Labour came to power in | :29:19. | :29:25. | |
1997, the word 2 million homes below the decency threshold in our social | :29:26. | :29:29. | |
housing sector. We tackled that challenge aggressively, spending | :29:30. | :29:33. | |
billions on new kitchens, bathrooms, double glazing, central heating and | :29:34. | :29:37. | |
security. The demilitarisation of much housing brought many pluses in | :29:38. | :29:42. | |
recent decades but problems arise. Those wider problems need | :29:43. | :29:46. | |
examination, as we have heard many challenges about how we provide | :29:47. | :29:50. | |
social housing in the UK. And how we address that question creates a | :29:51. | :29:56. | |
perspective on how we approach the bills, maintenance and safety of | :29:57. | :30:00. | |
those who live in these homes. The kind of housing I lived in four | :30:01. | :30:05. | |
decades. In respect of the specific lessons I have raised, I want to | :30:06. | :30:12. | |
thank John O'Neill of the fire protection Association, the Fire | :30:13. | :30:16. | |
Brigades Union, the Commons library, and the coroner for their assistance | :30:17. | :30:20. | |
with material for my remarks. Taking the questions in turn, the police | :30:21. | :30:25. | |
have identified the source of the fire as white goods on the fourth | :30:26. | :30:28. | |
floor. When the fire brigade and the electrical safety Council have been | :30:29. | :30:37. | |
leading the campaign for the total recall of such faulty white goods, | :30:38. | :30:42. | |
dryers and the like, and for improvement in their design. | :30:43. | :30:44. | |
Initially the Government seemed well disposed and I'm pleased to see the | :30:45. | :30:48. | |
Minister who responded to positively to the campaign and has had a number | :30:49. | :30:52. | |
of meetings with colleagues in respect of this, which would have | :30:53. | :30:56. | |
required compulsory product registration at the retail point of | :30:57. | :31:00. | |
sale and better manufacturer's working goods to allow them to | :31:01. | :31:06. | |
identify the effect of foreign traced back to source. One person | :31:07. | :31:09. | |
has already died and there have been a series serious virus including one | :31:10. | :31:14. | |
in a Hammersmith tower block. Fortunately the fire integrity of | :31:15. | :31:17. | |
that block was better than Grenfell and if the Minister has any | :31:18. | :31:20. | |
information on this campaign from his honourable colleague would be | :31:21. | :31:26. | |
pleased to hear it. In of the fire integrity of the Grenfell block, it | :31:27. | :31:29. | |
is difficult to know her to stop. The public enquiry will pronounce on | :31:30. | :31:39. | |
the cladding and the insulation, by the fire spread so rapidly and what | :31:40. | :31:42. | |
other contributing factors that may be. Questions not only about the | :31:43. | :31:49. | |
fire resistance specification of the refurbished block, the material used | :31:50. | :31:52. | |
and also whether the architect's original plan was followed, as well | :31:53. | :31:59. | |
as the finish. These contract, maintenance and fire doors, I'm sure | :32:00. | :32:04. | |
the public enquiries will look at this again also. The failure of all | :32:05. | :32:11. | |
the cladding panels tested since the fire, allied to the Secretary of | :32:12. | :32:15. | |
State's startling information earlier today about fire doors | :32:16. | :32:18. | |
indicates a complete systemic failure. Just as many decent local | :32:19. | :32:22. | |
authorities and housing associations are under scrutiny or how they | :32:23. | :32:27. | |
manage their housing stock, many good construction companies are | :32:28. | :32:32. | |
also. Questions about monitoring, building control, responsible person | :32:33. | :32:34. | |
and fire brigade sign off on the rules we put in place will be issues | :32:35. | :32:39. | |
for the public enquiry, as well as how contracts are deliberate, | :32:40. | :32:42. | |
including the system of subcontracting. I'm sorry, if he | :32:43. | :32:50. | |
will forgive me I will decline the intervention. If there is time at | :32:51. | :32:53. | |
the end, I will be happy too. I'm not sure if the Minister might be | :32:54. | :32:56. | |
able to comment on any of these building matters. The Fire Services | :32:57. | :33:00. | |
inspector and enforcement body should offer us some ease of mind, | :33:01. | :33:06. | |
but reports of a 25% reduction in both domestic Fire Brigade | :33:07. | :33:11. | |
inspections and fire safety audits do not inspire confidence and | :33:12. | :33:13. | |
perhaps the Minister might be able to comment on the accuracy of these | :33:14. | :33:17. | |
reports. I'm pleased to say the Foreign Minister might be able to | :33:18. | :33:23. | |
advise his honourable friend. The black canal house fire, the six | :33:24. | :33:27. | |
people killed there and the coroners enquiry were quick call, as was the | :33:28. | :33:32. | |
Southampton tower block fire where two firefighters died. Much happened | :33:33. | :33:37. | |
as a result but not all the lessons were learned. The key one for the | :33:38. | :33:40. | |
Government was about the reviewing of the building regulations, | :33:41. | :33:45. | |
guidance on fire, as contained in approved document B. This is the | :33:46. | :33:49. | |
architect's Bible, it says what is allowed and what is required. The | :33:50. | :33:53. | |
guidance needs regularly to take into account not only new methods of | :33:54. | :33:56. | |
construction but also new materials being used. They are changing all | :33:57. | :34:02. | |
the time, as we can see from the structures in the skyline around us. | :34:03. | :34:05. | |
Approved document the details when and where sprinklers should be used | :34:06. | :34:10. | |
and what type of fire alarm systems should be mandated for which type of | :34:11. | :34:15. | |
building. I welcomed the Secretary of State's announcement earlier | :34:16. | :34:18. | |
today and the convening of the new independent expert panel, as I asked | :34:19. | :34:22. | |
him at the time, the building regulations advisory committee has | :34:23. | :34:27. | |
historically been central to this work. The last published a review of | :34:28. | :34:33. | |
approved document B was in 2006. Francisco can CBA, the coroner, | :34:34. | :34:40. | |
wrote to the Secretary of State in 2013 and said, simply, it is | :34:41. | :34:43. | |
recommended your department reviews approved document B. The Secretary | :34:44. | :34:50. | |
of State's response in the same year was, we have commissioned research | :34:51. | :34:53. | |
that will feed into the review, future review of this part of the | :34:54. | :34:59. | |
building regulations. It should form the basis of a formal review leading | :35:00. | :35:03. | |
to the publication of a new edition of the approved document in 2016 to | :35:04. | :35:07. | |
17. But the Minister will know that they have not met for five years | :35:08. | :35:11. | |
despite a succession of ministers assuring us that work was on hand. | :35:12. | :35:15. | |
As late as last Thursday when I asked the Prime Minister what | :35:16. | :35:19. | |
assurance she could give that the review of building regulations that | :35:20. | :35:22. | |
approved document be as recommended by the coroner will be carried out | :35:23. | :35:25. | |
as early as possible and that the building regulations advisory | :35:26. | :35:29. | |
committee would be recalled as a matter of urgency, she also replied, | :35:30. | :35:34. | |
that work is indeed in hand. She also said obviously that will be one | :35:35. | :35:38. | |
of the issues the public enquiry will want to look at. As I said | :35:39. | :35:44. | |
then, that does not need to wait for a recommendation for a public | :35:45. | :35:49. | |
enquiry. Can the Minister assure us that the new independent poll of | :35:50. | :35:52. | |
experts will undertake this work as a matter of urgency and I would be | :35:53. | :35:56. | |
grateful if you could give us a time frame for their Work Programme. The | :35:57. | :36:01. | |
final matter I want to raise before some concluding remarks is | :36:02. | :36:04. | |
government policy in respect of Firestone close in new schools. In | :36:05. | :36:10. | |
2008, the Minister of State for the Department for Education upgraded | :36:11. | :36:12. | |
the guidance for local education authorities and school governors and | :36:13. | :36:15. | |
changed the wording on what was expected. He wrote and he published, | :36:16. | :36:23. | |
it is our expectation that all new schools worse strippers are fitted, | :36:24. | :36:27. | |
any exceptions to this will have to be justified by demonstrating that | :36:28. | :36:31. | |
the school is low risk. -- where sprinklers are fitted. The | :36:32. | :36:35. | |
Government has changed this guidance. The now revised version | :36:36. | :36:41. | |
from the Department for Education states, the building regulations do | :36:42. | :36:43. | |
not require the installation of fire sprinkler suppression systems in | :36:44. | :36:51. | |
school buildings. Therefore, VB 100 no longer includes an expectation | :36:52. | :36:54. | |
that most new school buildings will be fitted with them. The regulations | :36:55. | :37:01. | |
they quote are 11 years old, overdue for revision and requested to be | :37:02. | :37:06. | |
reviewed by at least one coroner's enquiry and I would be grateful if | :37:07. | :37:09. | |
the Minister could confirm some press reports that the Government | :37:10. | :37:13. | |
was reversing this and going back to the original guidance from 2008. | :37:14. | :37:19. | |
Sprinklers save lives. They are not as expensive as some detractors | :37:20. | :37:23. | |
claim, they are not helped by TV adverts, dramas and films | :37:24. | :37:26. | |
incorrectly portraying buildings being flooded whenever a sprinter | :37:27. | :37:31. | |
head activates. It is only the sprinkler directly above the fire | :37:32. | :37:34. | |
that sprays water, not heads across the building or even a floor. We | :37:35. | :37:40. | |
know from reports that the cost of sprinklers being fitted to Grenfell | :37:41. | :37:46. | |
Tower would have been ?200,000. Divide that by 79, you do the maths. | :37:47. | :37:57. | |
It is just over ?2531 per death. That is likely to come down as more | :37:58. | :38:00. | |
deaths are confirmed. To conclude, we need to know the terms of | :38:01. | :38:03. | |
reference of the public enquiry as soon as possible, when we expect it | :38:04. | :38:09. | |
to report and when we can expect interim report on urgent life safety | :38:10. | :38:13. | |
matters. We need to know when the independent panel will be convened | :38:14. | :38:18. | |
and when we can expect building regulations and guidance on approved | :38:19. | :38:21. | |
document B to be published. It has been said often for the last 12 days | :38:22. | :38:25. | |
that the Grenfell Tower fire could have been prevented at best or | :38:26. | :38:28. | |
mitigated at least. The deaths could also have been prevented at least in | :38:29. | :38:34. | |
the main. The Lakanal hass-mac enquiry, it is right to acknowledge | :38:35. | :38:36. | |
because there is some controversy over this, did not say retrofit all | :38:37. | :38:42. | |
high-rise blocks with fire sprinkles. -- Lakanal House. But it | :38:43. | :38:47. | |
said it is recommended that your department encourage providers of | :38:48. | :38:50. | |
housing in high residential buildings containing multiple | :38:51. | :38:56. | |
domestic promises to consider the retrofitting of sprinkler systems. | :38:57. | :39:01. | |
So not quite an instruction but from a coroner's enquiry, a pretty | :39:02. | :39:06. | |
forceful recommendation. There will be a cancer come at the public | :39:07. | :39:11. | |
enquiry under the vast majority of safety legislation has been written | :39:12. | :39:18. | |
after a tragedy or disaster and that includes fire regulations. Health | :39:19. | :39:21. | |
and safety regulations much derided in the media save lives but they | :39:22. | :39:26. | |
also cost money. The message from the Secretary of State's statement | :39:27. | :39:30. | |
today is that there will be a cost to local authorities and registered | :39:31. | :39:33. | |
social landlords, and we need assurances from the Government there | :39:34. | :39:36. | |
will be support to pay to keep our people say. The full lessons of | :39:37. | :39:40. | |
Grenfell Tower will not be clear until after the public enquiry. But | :39:41. | :39:44. | |
it is also clear that there are actions that need to be taken now. | :39:45. | :39:48. | |
Government has a responsibility, ultimately the buck stops here in | :39:49. | :39:52. | |
Parliament with all of us and we need to commit the support needed in | :39:53. | :39:56. | |
communities by -- across the country now. My last word, Matt is bigger | :39:57. | :40:04. | |
duck-mac I will be happy to give way. -- my last word. There are 32 | :40:05. | :40:09. | |
high-rise flats in Northern Ireland, plus other private high-rises as | :40:10. | :40:16. | |
well. Does he feel the independent panel of advisers should included in | :40:17. | :40:20. | |
the investigation in Northern Ireland so that all regions of the | :40:21. | :40:24. | |
UK can benefit from those findings? I am to him for raising the devolved | :40:25. | :40:30. | |
assemblies, because there are different practices in every | :40:31. | :40:32. | |
country. I commend the Welsh Assembly and John's former colleague | :40:33. | :40:40. | |
of mine from a Fire Brigades Union, the legislation in Wales is | :40:41. | :40:46. | |
difference, it is improved, more protective and in Northern Ireland | :40:47. | :40:49. | |
and in Scotland, there are different procedures as well. So I would like | :40:50. | :40:58. | |
to hear what the Mr has to say on that. My last words to commend the | :40:59. | :41:04. | |
emergency services workers, firefighters who risked life and | :41:05. | :41:08. | |
limb to try to help. If we give them the resources and the kit, they will | :41:09. | :41:11. | |
do the job. We stand admiration of them, as always. Mr Speaker, could I | :41:12. | :41:23. | |
start by thanking the honourable member for Poplar and Limehouse for | :41:24. | :41:27. | |
calling this very timely debate. As he said, he is a former firefighter | :41:28. | :41:31. | |
and he was a minister responsible for fire safety, so he does speak | :41:32. | :41:34. | |
from a position of knowledge and experience. This House is rightly | :41:35. | :41:44. | |
taking a very strong interest in the tragic events at the Grenfell Tower. | :41:45. | :41:49. | |
And we want to ensure that lessons are learned for the future. This is | :41:50. | :41:53. | |
a disaster that should never have happened. And we are absolutely | :41:54. | :41:59. | |
determined to make sure that this never, ever happens again in our | :42:00. | :42:00. | |
country. I attended a community safety | :42:01. | :42:10. | |
partnership meeting last week with them member for Ruislip, the | :42:11. | :42:14. | |
minister of State for policing and the Fire Service. We were both | :42:15. | :42:20. | |
deeply moved by the bravery and dignity that has been demonstrated | :42:21. | :42:25. | |
by those directly affected by the Grenfell Tower fire and I pay | :42:26. | :42:30. | |
tribute to all members on all sides who have helped to make a | :42:31. | :42:36. | |
contribution and particularly the new member for Kensington for the | :42:37. | :42:39. | |
work she has done locally to support her community. Of course all of us | :42:40. | :42:47. | |
need to do everything we can to help those who have suffered this tragedy | :42:48. | :42:51. | |
rebuild their lives and that is what the Government is doing and we have | :42:52. | :42:56. | |
put in place measures to help people to get back on their feet but we | :42:57. | :43:00. | |
understand this will take a long time in many cases. As the | :43:01. | :43:07. | |
honourable gentleman has outlined, what is equally important is that | :43:08. | :43:13. | |
the questions that are being raised by those who have been directly | :43:14. | :43:18. | |
affected must be answered. We need to understand what went wrong and | :43:19. | :43:27. | |
fix it for the future. I know that the honourable gentleman has raised | :43:28. | :43:32. | |
a number of extremely good points and I will try and address these as | :43:33. | :43:36. | |
I go through, but could I just say to him that in the spirit of | :43:37. | :43:42. | |
cooperation, because we need to work together on this across the House, I | :43:43. | :43:47. | |
would like to meet with him and colleagues on the All-Party | :43:48. | :43:50. | |
Parliamentary Group for fire safety and if he has time tomorrow I would | :43:51. | :43:56. | |
be happy to sit down and have a decision with him and colleagues. | :43:57. | :44:00. | |
It's important we work together on this and I want to demonstrate | :44:01. | :44:04. | |
willingness on the part of the Government to demonstrate this. In | :44:05. | :44:11. | |
terms of some of the issues the honourable gentleman raised, he | :44:12. | :44:16. | |
raised the issue about the public inquiry and of course as a | :44:17. | :44:19. | |
government we will do whatever it takes to get the bottom of the | :44:20. | :44:25. | |
causes of this disaster. There will be a full public inquiry, this will | :44:26. | :44:31. | |
be chaired by an independent chair and we are clear that this inquiry | :44:32. | :44:36. | |
should leave no stone unturned to get to the truth and will question | :44:37. | :44:42. | |
everyone that has evidence to provide. When it comes to the | :44:43. | :44:49. | |
survivors and victims, we want to make sure they are consulted on the | :44:50. | :44:53. | |
terms of reference of the inquiry and we will also ensure the victims | :44:54. | :44:58. | |
can be represented and the Government will cover the costs of | :44:59. | :45:02. | |
legal representation. In past enquiries this has been an issue and | :45:03. | :45:05. | |
that is why we have made that commitment. The honourable | :45:06. | :45:13. | |
gentleman... Of course. I appreciate what the minister says. Can he give | :45:14. | :45:19. | |
any information about when we are likely to have an announcement on | :45:20. | :45:25. | |
the chair for some time but, when it's likely to start and over what | :45:26. | :45:31. | |
period it will report? I understand that colleagues want that | :45:32. | :45:35. | |
announcement as soon as possible and that is something we are our of, so | :45:36. | :45:42. | |
I hope that very soon there will be an announcement, the work will start | :45:43. | :45:46. | |
when the Secretary of State gave his statement today there was a | :45:47. | :45:51. | |
discussion about how long an inquiry report would take and clearly it | :45:52. | :45:55. | |
will be up to the chair who was appointed to set out the full terms | :45:56. | :46:00. | |
and determine how they take this forward but ideally we would want to | :46:01. | :46:09. | |
see an early interim report. Returning to the point is that the | :46:10. | :46:14. | |
honourable gentleman raised, he raised an issue about the building | :46:15. | :46:18. | |
regulations advisory committee, I will talk about the panel the | :46:19. | :46:21. | |
Secretary of State outlined earlier today. But the committee does meet | :46:22. | :46:33. | |
several times a year and the last meeting was last Thursday and they | :46:34. | :46:41. | |
talked about the Grenfell Tower tragedy and how the work they do | :46:42. | :46:46. | |
could input into what the Government and the Department is doing, but as | :46:47. | :46:53. | |
the Secretary of State was clear to outline, the scope of the building | :46:54. | :46:57. | |
regulations advisory committee is more limited. He talked about a | :46:58. | :47:02. | |
panel which has a wider remit and I will outline what that panel will be | :47:03. | :47:10. | |
looking it. There was also a discussion the honourable gentleman | :47:11. | :47:15. | |
raised about the coroner's recommendations following the far in | :47:16. | :47:22. | |
2009. I have to say that the Government did take action in a | :47:23. | :47:28. | |
number of areas after the fire, particularly DC LG provided funding | :47:29. | :47:33. | |
to enable the Local Government Association in partnership with the | :47:34. | :47:38. | |
housing sector to publish new fire safety guidance in purpose-built | :47:39. | :47:43. | |
flat blocks in 2011. This guidance is still current and honourable | :47:44. | :47:51. | |
members may well have seen the letter my department sent to housing | :47:52. | :47:54. | |
associations and local authorities on the 18th of June and that clearly | :47:55. | :47:59. | |
referenced this particular guidance in that letter. I would urge all | :48:00. | :48:05. | |
housing providers to ensure they are following this piece of guidance. | :48:06. | :48:12. | |
The honourable member also referred to sprinklers and I will talk about | :48:13. | :48:19. | |
sprinklers in schools, but in April 2011 in response to a coroner's | :48:20. | :48:25. | |
report after a fire related incident in Southampton, the department wrote | :48:26. | :48:28. | |
to local authorities and other registered housing providers and | :48:29. | :48:34. | |
asked them to actively consider recommendations to install sprinkler | :48:35. | :48:38. | |
systems in their existing properties and the honourable gentleman is | :48:39. | :48:42. | |
right, this was the same recommendation that came from the | :48:43. | :48:49. | |
corridor in 2009. He raised issues with regard to the regime when it | :48:50. | :48:54. | |
comes to testing white goods and I can tell him that the report from | :48:55. | :49:01. | |
the working group on product recalls and safety will be published shortly | :49:02. | :49:07. | |
and their recommendations with regard to strengthen product recall | :49:08. | :49:12. | |
information site has been put into effect and the British standards | :49:13. | :49:16. | |
Institute has been commissioned to establish a clear protocol for | :49:17. | :49:20. | |
product recalls. In this case we know the type of grant this book | :49:21. | :49:25. | |
was, that caused the fire at Grenfell Tower and my colleagues at | :49:26. | :49:30. | |
the Department for business are already in touch with the | :49:31. | :49:36. | |
manufacturer. The honourable gentleman then raised issues about | :49:37. | :49:45. | |
sprinklers in schools and the current guidance from the Department | :49:46. | :49:49. | |
for Education strongly recommends sprinklers, Mr Speaker. The | :49:50. | :49:56. | |
Department was going to consult on language on this matter which might | :49:57. | :50:05. | |
have weakened this particular recommendation but that has been | :50:06. | :50:09. | |
withdrawn and if I can just say what the Department for Education has set | :50:10. | :50:14. | |
out, we are currently in contact with schools and all bodies | :50:15. | :50:18. | |
responsible for safety in schools, you're instructing them to carry out | :50:19. | :50:24. | |
checks to it in the fight any buildings which require further | :50:25. | :50:28. | |
investigation and then it has always been the case that sprinklers must | :50:29. | :50:31. | |
be installed in school buildings if a risk assessment and advise them as | :50:32. | :50:36. | |
necessary, and this is determined on a case-by-case basis. The honourable | :50:37. | :50:48. | |
gentleman then talked about part B of the building regulations in the | :50:49. | :50:53. | |
coroner's report in relation to like Mulhouse... Of course. I should have | :50:54. | :51:03. | |
said vice-chairman of your party amateur of the all-party far group | :51:04. | :51:09. | |
is there, so they have all had an invitation to meeting tomorrow. The | :51:10. | :51:15. | |
advice on fire sprinklers in schools, what you have said is | :51:16. | :51:19. | |
consistent, which is not the guidance position in 2008 but I | :51:20. | :51:25. | |
won't quibble because we can clarify that at the meeting and I welcome | :51:26. | :51:29. | |
the fact there seemed to be some movement in the Government's | :51:30. | :51:34. | |
position. I thank them for that intervention, happy to have a | :51:35. | :51:38. | |
detailed discussion on all these points with him tomorrow, but with | :51:39. | :51:46. | |
relation to the part B of the building regulations, what the | :51:47. | :51:50. | |
coroner's report did recommend is that the Government should look to | :51:51. | :51:53. | |
simplify this guidance and although we have been working on this | :51:54. | :51:57. | |
guidance, they accept this work has not been completed but in the light | :51:58. | :52:03. | |
of what has happened in Cranford, we will have to take a thorough look at | :52:04. | :52:08. | |
the regulatory regime and this is precisely what my right honourable | :52:09. | :52:13. | |
friend the Secretary of State said in his statement to the House | :52:14. | :52:19. | |
earlier and as he noted, there is an ongoing police investigation which | :52:20. | :52:24. | |
we are all were of an as the honourable gentleman has noted | :52:25. | :52:27. | |
already, there will be an independent public inquiry to get to | :52:28. | :52:32. | |
the truth about what happened and who is responsible, but what is | :52:33. | :52:38. | |
absolutely clear is that what we witnessed in the Grenfell Tower far | :52:39. | :52:44. | |
is a catastrophic failure on a scale that frankly no one thought was | :52:45. | :52:49. | |
possible in our country at this time today in 2017. I cannot anticipate | :52:50. | :52:56. | |
what the public inquiry will conclude but I agree with my right | :52:57. | :53:01. | |
honourable friend the Secretary of State when he said the figures must | :53:02. | :53:06. | |
be understood and rectified without delay and the Government is | :53:07. | :53:08. | |
determined to ensure that that happens. The Secretary of State has | :53:09. | :53:15. | |
informed the House that he is establishing an independent advisory | :53:16. | :53:20. | |
panel and I hope very soon there will be more information that | :53:21. | :53:25. | |
averages on this but I can already say that this panel will advise the | :53:26. | :53:28. | |
Government on any immediate steps that need to be taken on fire safety | :53:29. | :53:34. | |
measures, policies, inspection and regulation arising from the Grenfell | :53:35. | :53:39. | |
Tower fire as well as looking at the wider fire safety regime. I look | :53:40. | :53:46. | |
forward to having a meeting with the honourable gentleman and other | :53:47. | :53:50. | |
colleagues to discuss these matters and as I said at the start of my | :53:51. | :53:54. | |
remarks, this is a time for us to work together, to listen to wide | :53:55. | :54:02. | |
ranging views and to ultimately ensure that a tragedy like that | :54:03. | :54:04. | |
Grenfell Tower fire never happens again. We owe that to the victims, | :54:05. | :54:09. | |
to their families and to the country. Border. The question is | :54:10. | :54:16. | |
that this House do now adjourn. As many as are of the opinion, say | :54:17. | :54:20. | |
"aye". To the contrary, "no". I think the ayes have it. Order, | :54:21. | :54:22. | |
order. | :54:23. | :54:29. |