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Hello and welcome to BBC Parliament's live coverage on the

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House of Commons. In one hour Theresa May will Leader of the

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Opposition Jeremy Corbyn for the first Prime Minister's Questions of

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the new session of Parliament following the general election. The

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main business in the Chamber will be the third day of debate on the

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Queen's Speech, focusing on health, social care and security. Labour has

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tabled an amendment calling for an to the public sector pay cap and for

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pay rises for emergency and public sector staff, that vote is expected

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at around 7pm. Do join me for a round-up at 11 o'clock tonight from

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both Houses of Parliament but first we have questions to the Secretary

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of State for Northern Ireland James Brokenshire. Order! I remember -- I

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remained members that the Private Members' Bill ballet boot is open

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and Eno division lobby today until the rise of the House when the

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ballet for the 2017 and 2019 will close. The ballot draw will be held

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at 9am tomorrow in committee room ten. I also remind members that the

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ballet for the election get the speakers is taking place until

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1:30pm today in committee room number eight. The result will be

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announced as soon as the count is complete. Order, questions to the

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Secretary of State for Northern Ireland. Kate Hollern. Number one,

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Mr Speaker. Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, James Brokenshire.

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With permission, I will answer questions one and five together. The

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government remained steadfast in our commitment to the Belfast Agreement

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and its successors. We will continue to govern in the interests of all

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parts of the community and work in partnership with the Irish

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government in accordance with the well-established free standard

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approach as we have done for the past seven years. Thank you, Mr

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Speaker, in the last few days, the deal with the DUP has been described

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as grubby, dangerous and desperate. The current situation in Northern

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Ireland is at a sensitive point, can the Secretary of State outline in a

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clear and cohesive manner the steps that his government is taking to

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ensure impartiality? I said at the outset that I do not recognise the

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characterisation that the honourable lady has given which is about

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providing stability here for the UK Government. And actually governing

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and the best interest of all parts of the UK. But I would say to heart

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in response to her important question over the Belfast Agreement

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and its successors that this government does remain steadfast to

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its commitment to those agreements that we continue to work with all

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parties, as I have done over recent days and will continue to do, such

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that this government does and in the best interest of all parts of

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Northern Ireland and continues to listen to the concerns of all parts

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of the community. There has been a lot made about the extra money for

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infrastructure spending. What assurances can the Secretary of

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State give that that extra funding will reach all communities in

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Northern Ireland, especially the rural communities in the west of the

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country, and what can he do to help ensure that happens? The additional

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funding outlined as for an executive, and inclusive executive

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to be able to utilise those funds in the best interest of Northern

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Ireland, that is the most were full and effective way to deliver on that

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and that is why I have been using all of my time, energy and effort to

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see that that executive is restored and that is the best we 2CE the

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point that the honourable gentleman rightly makes Arsene. Thank you, is

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not the case that in September 2015 there was a crisis in the

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institutions in Northern Ireland long before any deal between the

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Conservative Party and the DUP was struck? Is it not to give that this

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particular crisis started long before any deal between the

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Conservative Party and the was struck? Well, my honourable friend

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has highlighted the challenges that we do have in seeing the executive

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restored and the challenges that have emerged over the course of this

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year. And he is correct, it is important that we focus upon that

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task at hand, see the time that is available as a used such that we

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have an executive restored and so that it is performing in the best

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interests of Northern Ireland and all committees across Northern

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Ireland. Mr Speaker, surely the point is with this additional

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funding for Northern Ireland, the imperative will be on the executive

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to deliver for all the people in Northern Ireland and the kick-start

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more private industry in Northern Ireland to make the people there are

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less dependent on the state and get better receipts back to the UK

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Treasury. I agree with my honourable friend, he makes an important point

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about the real opportunity that there is for Northern Ireland. How

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we want to see jobs, growth, prosperity, saying that investment

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in infrastructure and that enterprise driven economy. The rest

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that opportunity here and we, as the government, wants to c2c in Northern

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Ireland and that the country will continue to move forward. Can I wish

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the Secretary of State well in his efforts over the coming days in

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terms of restoring the executive to Northern Ireland. For our part, we

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are absolutely committed to getting the executive up and running again.

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We did not cause its collapse and we are not getting any red lines or

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preconditions for its Wii formation. Can the Secretary of State to be

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assured that our focus is on ensuring that money for

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infrastructure, health, education and the rest of it is spent a and

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fairly across Northern Ireland, and has been our record in office over

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the last ten years in the Nothern Ireland Executive? Well, I very much

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welcome the statement that the right honourable gentleman has made of his

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party's determination to see that the executive is restored and

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equally, that funds made available are shared across the whole

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community and it is about the infrastructure and things like

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investment in the digital infrastructure as well, that

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provides that mechanism to see the prosperity continuing to grow in

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Northern Ireland. And on the issue of rigorous impartiality, of course,

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we are committed to the agreements we are entered into, as our Her

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Majesty s Government, but can I Majesty s Government, but can I

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welcome what was stated any policy agreement that the Conservative

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Party will never be neutral and expressing its support for the union

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and they will never countenance any constitutional arrangements that are

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incompatible with the consent principle. We are united on the

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great principle that we want to strengthen the United Kingdom, and

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he will have our full support in efforts to achieve that. Well, the

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right honourable gentleman is correct that we will never be

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neutral on our support for the union and as a government we are proud in

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taking that approach, but equally, we uphold the principles of those

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agreements and in particular, the principle of consent, which has

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underlined and underpinned the activities of government is over so

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many years and therefore, it is that right balance of saying that support

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for beginning, but equally upholding our principle of consent. Having

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seen the troubles at first hand, I know the peace process has been

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integral to the process since then, whilst welcoming the agreement with

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our friends with the DUP, what more can the government do to ensure that

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all the people of Northern Ireland, that the agreement will not

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jeopardise this process because that is the chief concern that the

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minute? My honourable friend makes a very powerful and important point

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and why the agreement underlines our steadfast commitment to the Belfast

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Agreement and its successors. Indeed, the work that I have been

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doing over recent days of working with all parties, all of the major

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parties within the executive, to see the restoration of that executive,

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one of the key bodies under the Good Friday Agreement and why that remain

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such an important outcome to be achieved. It is clear other parties

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in Northern Ireland have serious concerns about the Good Friday

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Agreement about this recent governments deal with the DUP. What

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guarantees can he offer that the confidence and supply agreement does

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not threaten the impartiality of the UK Government, what assurances can

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he give us that the Prime Minister's reliance on DUP votes to remain in

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power does not compromise his position and finally, given the

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sword of Damocles clause offering support on a case-by-case basis, how

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can any of us be sure that the UK Government will not be compromised

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when it suits the DUP? I would underline to the honourable lady

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that it is an agreement that relates to what happens here in Westminster

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and that I am not part of those discussions and the committee

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involved in that, for those important reasons, because of the

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war that I played in Northern Ireland. It is not underlined to you

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that you have made various assertions and characterisations and

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I have worked closely with the Irish government over recent days as part

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of the restoration of the executive and a noted in the response welcome

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they give to the British government to govern in the interests of all

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part of the community in Northern Ireland, it is that principle that

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will guide our actions. Notwithstanding the commitment of

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parity contained within the Good Friday Agreement, would my right

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honourable friend agree with me that the military covenant needs to be

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applied throughout this country, regardless of where service men and

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servers lives? I do uphold the military covenant, it is something

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that as a party we have made great strides in saying that that is

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rolled out across the UK. It is something that as a government we

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remain committed to and we will work with the executive, we will work

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with all parties to see that the benefits of that military covenant

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is felt in all parts of the UK. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Rene Howe

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begin by paying tribute to all of those Northern Ireland members who

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lost their seats at the last election, and in particular to Mark

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Durkan who serve this Parliament and northern Ireland politics with such

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distinction and I would also like to welcome all new members to this

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House. I do not start for one minute the good faith of the Secretary of

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State and I wish him well in trying to bring about the power-sharing

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executive, but he must acknowledge that has desire to look impartial

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has been compromised by the arrangements with the DUP and I

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would just like to know, what did he advised the Prime Minister about it?

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Did he tell her that she was making his life that much harder? Can I

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welcome the right honourable gentleman to his place and I know

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the role that he has played previously in Northern Ireland and I

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welcome his experience onto the Labour front bench and also join him

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in his comments on recognising those who have served previously in this

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House. I would pay tribute to his predecessor Dave Anderson for the

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constructive approach that he took and I would also like to recognise

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my colleague Chris Hopkins as my minister, who did an extraordinary

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role they are and also recognise my colleague Lord Dunlop. He makes the

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point about Mark Dunlop -- Mark Durkan, another colleague in this

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House. He is reported as having said there is nothing in the Good Friday

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Agreement that prevents agreement between parties in Northern Ireland

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and the governments of the Republic of Ireland or the UK Government as

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well, and it is that principle of those agreements that we continue to

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uphold any actions that we take and how we see nothing inconsistent but

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the agreement that was reached this week in terms of our actions and

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arose that we in Northern Ireland. Mr Speaker, while I understand the

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point he has made, he knows from his experience and mind that trust is

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vital in Northern Ireland and there is a danger that that cost between

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parties in government will be eroded over time if one party is seen as

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having the ear of the government. Transparency is the key to avoiding

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that, so can he commit that in addition to being transparent in the

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initial agreement, but also -- subsequent agreements and all

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minutes of the DUP and Tory coordination committee will be

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published so that we know what is going on?

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This issue of impartiality and the principle of working across all

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communities in fairness to all communities is one that we

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steadfastly uphold. I will continue to work with and engage with all

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parties, community groups and sectors across Northern Ireland and

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the role that I uphold, and I think that he has seen from the actions

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that we have taken in publishing the confidence and supply agreement and

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the financial statement that sits alongside that that that

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transparency has been provided. Number two. With permission, I will

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answer questions two and ten together. The overriding priority

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for the UK Government in Northern Ireland remains the restoration of

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power-sharing in Northern Ireland. In accordance with the

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well-established three stranded approach, the Irish government and

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the UK Government will work to restore a fully functioning

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executive and assembly. I urge all parties to look beyond their

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differences and to see that an executive is formed. Like many of

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us, I have been assisting constituents who are former members

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of Her Majesty's Armed Forces and served during the troubles. Can my

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right honourable friend tell the House the extent to which the

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agreement over the legacy processes are sticking point to restoring

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power-sharing? There is a growing consensus that the next stage needs

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to be the publication of a consultation around the Stormont

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House agreement bodies which are bounded on the principle of

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fairness, proportionality, and it is that that has come through from the

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discussions that we have had. Does my right honourable friend agree

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that any return to direct rule in Northern Ireland would be a huge

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backward step, and that devolution is really the only good way forward?

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I do agree with the comments of my honourable friend. An inclusive

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executive acting in the best interests of Northern Ireland is

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profoundly what Northern Ireland needs, what the people voted for,

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and that is where our focus must live. Secretary of State, you will

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be aware that the Armed Forces covenant has been subject to talks

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and discussions in Northern Ireland because of the lack of full

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invitation. You agree with me that the party blocking that talk a lot

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about rights and respect, and they need to do the right thing and stop

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being a barrier to the support that the veterans in Northern Ireland

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need? Can I welcome the honourable lady to her position, and I know the

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experience that she has over legacy and so many parts of Northern

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Ireland will certainly enrich the debate in this House. We obviously

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stand by Malcolm Edmonds in relation to the military covenant, we want to

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see that in all parts of the UK and we want to work with all parties

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across Northern Ireland and the UK to see that that happens. Will the

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Secretary of State confirm that the vast majority of the public in

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Northern Ireland are very interested to see that he finds the political

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parties in Northern Ireland, so as part of the ongoing and discussions,

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will there be an end to the anonymity of political donations? I

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am grateful to the honourable lady from making that point, and I know

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it is one she has made a number of occasions in this House. She will

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have seen the commitment in my party's manifesto over the

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transparency of political donations, and I look forward to moving ahead

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and seeing that that is implemented. Will my honourable friend ensure

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that the diggers race for treatment of Major Dennis Hopkins and other

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ex-service personnel will continue to be an important element of these

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discussions? I recognise the way in which my honourable friend has

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championed the cause of her constituent. I know she will

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appreciate that there are legal proceedings that are outstanding

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that mean I cannot comment in detail, but what I hope she

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appreciates is that this Government was my desire to set fair, balanced

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and proportionate mechanisms put in place to deal with the issues of the

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past. Could I with permission associate myself with the generous

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comments Secretary of State made about Chris Hopkins, who is a good

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and decent man, and may I welcome the honourable lady, my seventh

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opponent to the other side of the despatch box, and said that unlike

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all her predecessors, she lacks little close combat experience,

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except for her time in the whips office. That may I ask the Minister

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if as we all hope that there is a really establishment of the

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Executive tomorrow, you must be undertaking some contingency

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planning. What structures are you putting in place to ensure that

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there is impartiality in the disbursement of additional money? I

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thank the honourable gentleman for his kind comments on race into Chris

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Hopkins who served in this House with the stink shouldn't and the

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role that he played in the Northern Ireland Office, too. -- who served

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in this House with distinction. I do not want to pre-empt what may happen

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should the power-sharing not resume. What I can assure him is that we

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will work with all parties and have discussions with his party and

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others across the House to see that these issues are considered very

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carefully clay. Number three. The terrorist threat level in Northern

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Ireland remains unchanged at Sevilla, namely that an attack is

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highly likely. The need for vigilance remains, and I pay tribute

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to the brave men and women who work to keep communities safe. They will

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always have this Government was Mike Phillips response.

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The Secretary of State assured me that he would be unswerving and

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unstinting in promotion of our Armed Forces, so will the bodies envisaged

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in the Stormont House agreement be fair, Barnes and proportionate to

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former soldiers? I do reiterate that commitment in our manifesto. We

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continue to focus on implementing the Stormont House agreement and

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creating new bodies that will be fair, balanced and proportionate.

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The next phase is to consult publicly on the detail of those

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bodies workings. As the member of Parliament who takes his seat from

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the west of the province on this occasion, could I ask the Minister,

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is she aware of the fact that security has been getting worse in

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the west of Northern Ireland, particularly the north-west, and

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Wilshere review the problems associated with bomb disposable in

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terms of getting them to the places where problems have occurred? I

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welcome the honourable gentleman's experience, and would be delighted

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to hear more about his specific concerns. I have endeavoured to be

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in touch straightaway with all of the Northern Ireland MPs. We must be

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vigilant, as I said I will forward to further detail from him. When the

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Minister in that she and the Secretary of State will have a full

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part in the former an upcoming review of the counterterrorism

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strategy to reflect the lethal nature of terrorism threat in

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Northern Ireland. The Speaker: There has been

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extensive interest in all parts of the House in Northern Ireland in

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recent weeks. That ought to be interested in these matters being

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spoken of in the chamber today. The Minister. The short answer is yes,

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and my right honourable friend will endeavour to ensure that security is

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at the forefront of all we do. The Minister will know that terrorists

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have been brought back to Northern Ireland to face justice because of

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the European Arrest Warrant. Will she commit today that this

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Government will keep that arrest warrant post Brexit? The honourable

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gentleman will no that these matters are all in negotiation in the hands

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of my right honourable friend the Brexit secretary. He will also know

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that we enjoy strong working relationships with our counterparts

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in the Irish Government and we intend to continue that in the

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service of all the communities of Northern Ireland. Number four. The

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Government wants to protect the ability to move between the UK and

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Ireland freely. As my right honourable friend the Prime Minister

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confirmed in this House last November, there will be no change,

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alteration or impediment to movement within the UK. The simplest way to

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ensure free movement continues unimpeded is to accept that there

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will in reality been increased border checks on EU Nationals. Can

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the Secretary of State confirm that that remains the Government's

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thinking? The point that we want to see is the maintenance of the Common

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travel area, which has served us so well over many decades. Equally

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working with the Irish Government to see that that external border is

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upheld and strengthened, and that does remain our focus. Might write

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on a war friend made clear in her letter to Donald Tusk that we want

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to avoid a return to the hard border .- my right honourable friend made

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clear. This is a shared desire with the Republic of Ireland and with the

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European Union, and we shall be working tirelessly to achieve it.

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Northern Ireland is as much part of the United Kingdom as Hartford is.

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Will the Minister agree with me that given this unique situation, it is

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essential that we have a frictionless border between Northern

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Ireland and the Republic without ever compromising security of the

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whole of the United Kingdom? Yes, I do agree with that point. We all

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want to see people and goods moving as freely as possible across the

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border between Northern Ireland and Ireland in the service of a strong

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economy for those who need it there. Mindful of the worryingly high

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levels of radicalisation of people in the Republic of Ireland, what

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assurances can the Minister give members on this bench that the soft

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order that is important for trade will not become an all safe border

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in terms of security? I value the strong working relationship between

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both this country and the Republic of Ireland that will allow us to

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focus on the issue he raises. We need to be able to preserve the

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Common travel area and maintain free trade with Europe.

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The Speaker: The Minister has never been more popular! We are grateful

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to her. Number seven. Mr Speaker, the fundamentals of the Northern

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Ireland economy are strong with growth last year at 1.6%,

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unemployment has fallen, employment has risen, however there is much

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more we must do. I welcome the additional investment in Northern

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Ireland's economy to address structural weaknesses. I also urge

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the Government to reinforce efforts to secure private sector and foreign

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investment. I can assure my honourable friend that we will

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continue to do that using our relationships across the globe, and

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despite circumstances in recent years, there are still special

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circumstances in Northern Ireland, and we want to see that applied to

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everything there. There are two key opportunities. Can I ask the

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Minister of to facilitate discussions with us and with the

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Ministry of Defence colleagues so that we can advance these golden

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opportunities for our province? I would be happy to do so, Mr Speaker.

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Mr Owen Paterson. Under the terms of the Azores agreement and legislation

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passed through this House, only a devolved administration can use its

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powers to reduce corporation tax, which would have an overwhelming

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beneficial impact on every citizen in Northern Ireland. Can the

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Minister guarantee that this will be raised in the talks over the next

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two days? My right honourable friend will be doing everything he can to

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ensure that those talks come to a successful conclusion. My right

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honourable friend's point underlined the right to reach that agreement as

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a matter of priority. With permission, Mr Speaker, I will

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answer questions eight and nine together. The agreement provides

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stability at a vital time for our country, and it in no way changes

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the UK Government's commitments to the Belfast agreement and its parts.

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H DUP MP is worth more than Ronaldo! Does the Secretary of State agree

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that it is now impossible for the UK Government to be evenhanded in

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Northern Ireland? No, I don't. Canas Secretary of State not see that the

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UK Government's credibility with the other constituent parts of the

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United Kingdom has been destroyed following its ?1.5 billion bribe for

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Northern Ireland? Is that the price of staying in office? No, I don't.

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The Speaker: If the honourable lady wants to come in on this, she can.

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Thank you, Mr Speaker. With the Minister join me in welcoming the

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Government's commitment to use our high commissions and embassies to

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promote Northern Ireland as a place to do business, to ensure that

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Northern Ireland fully includes in any UK wide initiative to boost

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exports and prosperity? I strongly support the point that my honourable

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friend has made. Northern Ireland is a great place to do business, and as

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a Government we will continue to support but in all ways that we can,

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as well as all parts of the UK, too. The Speaker: Questions to the Prime

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Minister.

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