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similar issues in our constituencies and I know that right across

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government officials and ministers are very sympathetic to these cases

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and do try to expedite them as quickly as possible. SPEAKER:

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Statement, the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport,

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secretary Karen Bradley. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I came to this House on

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the 16th of March to confirm that I had issued a European intervention

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notice in relation to the proposed merger between 21st-century fox and

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Sky plc on the grounds of media plurality and commitment to

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broadcasting standards. That triggered a requirement for Ofcom to

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report, initially by the 16th of May but extended to the 20th of June on

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the media public interest considerations and for the

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Competition and Markets Authority, the CMA, one jurisdiction. I issued

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a statement last week to confirm that I had received those reports

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and undertook to both publish them today and to come to the House to

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set out my minded to decision on the next step in this process, which is

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whether or not to refer the merger to a fuller phase two investigation.

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In line with my commitments I am today publishing both documents,

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copies of which will also be deposited in the libraries of both

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houses. I will also publish later today the letter to both parties

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with my decision, which I sent to them this morning. Separately, Ofcom

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is today publishing its fit and proper assessment of the merged

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company. This reflects its ongoing responsibility as the independent

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regulator under the broadcasting Acts to monitor who is fit and

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proper to a broadcast license. Decisions made by the Secretary of

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State under the enterprise act or made on a quasi judicial basis. I

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want to be clear about what that means. When taking a quasi-judicial

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basis -- decision, I am tightly bound. I must take my decision only

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on the evidence that is relevant. My decision cannot be based on opinion,

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speculation or conjecture. Any decision must be objectively

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justified by the facts before me. I must set aside wider political

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considerations, going beyond the scope of the legislation. I must act

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independently and follow a process that is scrupulously and impartial.

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This is what I am doing. On the question of whether the merger gives

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rise to public interest concerns in relation to media plurality, Ofcom

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concludes, the transaction raises public interest concerns as a result

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of the risk of increased influence by members of the Murdoch family

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trust over the UK news agenda and political process. With its unique

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presence on radio, television, in print and online. We consider these

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concerns may justify reference by the Secretary of State to the

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Competition and Markets Authority. On the basis of Ofcom's assessment I

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confirm I am minded to refer to a face to investigation on the grounds

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of media plurality. The reasoning and evidence are persuasive. The

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proposed entity would have the third largest total breach of any news

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provider, lower the only than the BBC and ITV. It would span

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television, radio, newspapers and online. Ofcom's report says that it

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would give the Murdoch family trust material evidence over news

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providers. This potentially raises public interest concerns because in

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Ofcom's view, the transaction may increase members of the Murdoch

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family trust's ability to influence the overall news agenda and the

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ability to influence the political process, and it may also result in

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the perception of increased influence. These are clear grounds

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were by referral to a phrase two investigation are warranted. There

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is however a statutory process I must follow. I required by

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legislation to allow the parties the opportunity to make representations

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to me on this position before I reach a decision. I will now do that

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and have given them until Friday the 14th of July to respond. The second

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question concerns whether, after the merger, the relevant media

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enterprises would have a genuine commitment to broadcasting

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standards. Ofcom concludes that, in light of Fox's and Sky's business

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records, we do not consider that the merged entity would like a genuine

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commitment to the attainment of broadcasting standards. Therefore we

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consider there are no broadcasting standards concerns that may justify

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a reference by the Secretary of State to become additional markets

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authority. Ofcom's approach sought to measure commitment to

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broadcasting standards by reference to breaches of regulatory codes. It

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found that Fox's compliance with the UK's compliance code is in line with

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comparable broadcasters. North of their compliance record in relation

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to overseas jurisdictions give cause for concern. -- nor did the. I also

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asked Ofcom to consider any effect of corporate governors on this

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consideration. Ofcom did this in respect of its secondary

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consideration of whether Fox and Sky would be fit to hold broadcast

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license -- licenses. It held that -- these did not in its views

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demonstrate that the merged company would like a genuine commitment to

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broadcasting standards. In reaching a view, I have to be guided only by

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the evidence before me. As such, based on the Ofcom report, I am

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currently minded not to refer to a phase two investigation in relation

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to a general commitment to broadcasting standards. I am giving

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the parties and opportunities -- over Shittu to make representatives

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in relation to media plurality grounds. In the interest of

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transparency, I will also invite wider representations on the

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question is to represent -- broadcasting standards. Parties

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responding to the consultation should not simply duplicate any

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representations previously made to Ofcom. Instead, responses should be

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limited to setting out any new and substantial evidence and any comment

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to Ofcom's overall approach. Rather a strong feelings among supporters

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and opponents of this merger, in this quasi judicial approach, I can

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only be guided by evidence, and not by who shouts loudest. Under the

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process set out in the enterprise act, it is open to the parties to

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propose undertakings in view of a reference to the CMA for a more

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detailed investigation, in other words the parties May seek to avoid

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a phase two reference by proposing remedies to address the public

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interest concerns that have been identified. The decision as to

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whether or not to accept undertaking is for the Secretary of State alone,

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however, the parties proposed a set of undertakings to Ofcom and Ofcom

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commented on them. Proposed undertakings centred around Fox

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maintaining the editorial independence of Sky News. And any

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changes to Sky News editorial guidelines. The only -- also include

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a commitment to maintain Sky branded news for five years with spending

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similar levels to now. Ofcom's view were -- was that these measures

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would mitigate plurality concerns. They also suggested the remedies

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could be further strengthened. The parties last week without prejudice

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to my decision today formally submitted undertakings in largely

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the same terms to me. In accordance with the legislation, if I still

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intend to refer the merger after considering representations from the

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party, I required to consider whether or not these bodies are

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appropriate. Given the parties have offered these undertakings and Ofcom

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have commented, I have taken an initial view, and I have today

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written to the parties indicated that I am minded not to accept the

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undertakings that have been offered. While Ofcom suggests they may

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mitigate its concerns, it is for the Secretary of

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State to decide whether or not this efficiently mitigate awfully remedy

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what are serious public interest considerations. I know that Ofcom's

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report says we recognise that behavioural undertakings can be

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difficult to monitor, and that there are areas where the proposed

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undertakings could be strengthened. It cites questions regarding the

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ongoing arrangements for the appointment of independent members

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of the Sky News editorial board, and the period of Fox's commitment to

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maintaining its investment in Sky News. I also note the guidance of

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the markets authority, which says that in ordinary Kim -- cases it is

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highly unlikely to accept behavioural limitations -- remedies

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that phase one. I have given the parties ten working days to make

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representations on the decisions I have reached. If I receive further

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offers of undertakings, I will keep the House informed on how I intend

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to structure the statutory process must follow considering them. As I

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have set out, I will now take representations on my positions. The

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call will remain open for ten working days, and they will then

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consider the evidence received before coming to a final decision on

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both grounds. To be clear, the minded to decisions are not my final

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decisions. A word before I close. As the independent regulator, Ofcom's

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fit and proper -- I have seen the report and no many members will want

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to comment on it. However, given my current role and the merger, I will

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not be commenting on its findings. It is rightly not for Government to

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determine who should and should not hold TV broadcasting licences. Ofcom

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has an ongoing duty to ensure all organisations are fit and proper to

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hold broadcasting licences. If evidence -- in the evidence comes to

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light, it is Ofcom's it is for Ofcom to consider it. I trust this

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statement gives an option to do to debate this position well at the

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same time respecting the limits of what I can say given my ongoing

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quasi judicial role. I commend this statement to the House. I thank the

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Secretary of State for her statement, albeit in redacted form,

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which is utterly ridiculous. This decision was delayed as a result of

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the unexpected General Election campaign. I help the party opposite

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found those weeks as productive as we did on this side of the House,

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but nothing about this decision is a surprise. It is the old playbook,

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the Secretary of State has known all along what wants to end up doing,

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but she has two establish -- follow the established dance steps. So let

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me make a prediction. The parties have proposed some pretty minor

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undertakings in you. They always knew they were not going to be

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enough to satisfy Ofcom, so the Secretary of State will demand extra

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conditions, as a result of which she will get written up as a tough

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operator. The parties will offer something new which they always had

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in their back pocket, the Secretary of State will accept them, and this

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merger will go ahead. Well, let me tell the Secretary of State the

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problem with Murdoch's undertakings. Not just these undertakings, but any

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undertakings in lieu which have never been undertaken -- offered by

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the Murdoch family. Ask Harold Evans or James Harding about the

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guarantees of a -- editorial or independence. Can the Secretary of

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State name any undertakings in lieu that the Murdoch family have ever

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made that have been respected? And if the current rules mean that James

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Murdoch can't pass a fit and proper test, given everything we know about

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his behaviour over phone hacking, and given everything we know about

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Fox's behaviour over the ongoing sexual harassment scandal and the

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United States, that says more about the rules than about Mr Murdoch. --

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can pass a fit and proper test. If the current Conservative Government

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will not risk -- rewrite the rules, the next Labour Government will.

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This company has been found guilty of significant corporate failure,

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and yet this bid process can go ahead. In fact over the next 12

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months the Labour Party will be reviewing media ownership rules in

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the UK, and let me put the media barons on notice. The days when

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citizens of other countries can dominate our media markets while

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paying their taxes overseas have got to end. The truth is, the world is

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changing. And it is time the Conservative Party realised it. We

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have seen what looks like an implicit bargain between the

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Conservative Party and the Murdoch Empire over recent years, the

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Conservatives will give Murdoch what he wanted, the Sky deal, and Murdoch

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would deliver Theresa May the landslide victory she craved. Well,

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it hasn't quite worked out that way, has eight? Rupert Murdoch has not

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delivered his side of the bargain, has he? His papers may have done

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their best to urge a Tory landslide, but he couldn't follow through. He

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is not what he was. It wasn't the sun that one it. The Sun told

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Britain, don't chuck Britain in the bin. But Britain and chucked the

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Tory manifesto in the bin instead. -- chuck Britain in the Corbyn.

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Murdoch wasn't any use to the Tories. They do not need to be any

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use to him any more. And if I was speaking to the Minister outside the

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chamber I would say to her, at long last, you are free. You can do the

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right thing. And one way of signalling that freedom would be to

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go ahead and order parte two of the liver some inquiry. Notwithstanding

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Ofcom's fit and proper investment, the only way to get to the bottom of

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corporate governance issues is that the Secretary of State should hold

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parte two of the inquiry. She doesn't have a mandate to drop

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Leveson two. Does the Secretary of State worry that given this autumn

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James Murdoch is facing a civil trial in the High Court over new

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allegations of hacking, and the destruction of evidence summary:

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does she think she might come out of this process with egg all over her

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face? How can this process possibly proceed, with these cases hanging

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over them? Before she makes her final decision, can she guaranteed

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to let the House now what the Prime Minister discussed with Rupert

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Murdoch at their private meeting in New York last year?

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Mr Speaker. I am disappointed at the honourable gentleman. I have come

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here to be fair and proper in a quasi judicial process and he is

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choosing to make it party political and that is a shame. It is very

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cynical of him. You should judge me on my record. Throughout this whole

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process I have been scrupulously fair and I have looked at the

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evidence and analysis available to me. He should not prejudge any

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decisions that I take. I will take them on the basis of the evidence

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and analysis given to me and that icy and I will make an appropriate

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judgment based on that evidence. Hope that he will give me credit for

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the fact that so far I have done that and will continue to do that.

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Mr John Whittingdale. Me I commend my Right Honourable

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friend on the scrupulous way in which she is both following the

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advice that she has been given and also giving the maximum opportunity

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for interested parties to comment at each stage. Would she also agree

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that the only thing on which the opposition spokesman was correct was

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in saying that when it comes to plurality it is becoming

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increasingly obvious, and the general election bears this out,

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that the printed press are a waning influence and the real media giants

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today are companies like Google and social media giants? My Right

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Honourable friend who has significant experience in this area

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and a great track record is absolutely right that we did see,

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particularly during the general election, the power and influence of

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social media companies, who simply do not have to abide by the same

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rules of impartiality, fairness and checking sources that the mainstream

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media do. I thank him for his comments about the approach I have

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taken to this merger. Whatever final decision I will take, I will take it

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on the basis of the evidence. I want to make sure that we are as

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transparent as possible because there is great public interest in

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this issue and I want to make sure whatever final decision I take it is

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understood by the public and respected. Brendan O'Hara. I thank

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the Secretary of State for the prior sight of her statement. Ofcom has

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serious concerns about the further concentration of media ownership in

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fewer and fewer hands and we welcome the fact she is minded to refer this

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to the Competition and Markets Authority on the grounds of

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diminishing plurality. In doing so she will bolster public confidence

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that recognising plurality and diversity are vital components of an

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independent media. In her statement she said that the guarantee she

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received from Fox that it does not go far enough. Should she outlined

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what it is she looking for from Fox to guarantee that independence of

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editorial standards? Issue satisfied the current arrangements,...

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Mr Speaker, if I can take the latter comment about the fit and proper

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person test, I think it would be extraordinary to be in a situation

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where it was government ministers who had any form of say over who

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held a broadcasting licence. I think it is absolutely right that is with

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Ofcom and if he has questions about the Ofcom process and Ofcom report

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when he sees it then he should address those questions to Ofcom in

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order that they can give him that comfort that he needs. He asks what

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it is I'm looking for when it comes to undertakings. Again, it is not

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for me to prejudge that. I have set out today that I give all parties

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ten working days to come forward. That is, interested bodies who was

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do not wish to make further presentations on broadcasting

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standards and media plurality, and the parties themselves on the matter

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of further undertakings they may wish to make or other matters on my

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mind it too decisions and at that point I will make a decision. Damian

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Collins. In terms of media plurality what

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consideration has been given as the member for moulding raises, to the

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world in which we live today were increasingly people get news on

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Facebook, and in the future of the television market, the merger of two

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companies, being dominated by the financial power and influence of

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companies like Netflix and Amazon? Mr Speaker, my honourable friend

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will see the Ofcom report which should have been published now and

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will see the consideration taken. One of the points of note is that in

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terms of the Fox - Sky merger, the concern was this is a media company

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that has positions on both broadcast, radio, newsprint, and

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online, which is unique compared to other media organisations. He's

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right that we are in an ever changing media landscape and one

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that we need to be cognisant of when looking at how to ensure that the

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public receives a wide and diverse range of accurate and fair news. Ed

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Miliband. Can I start by welcoming the fact the Ofcom report says they

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should be a referral to the CMA on the grounds of plurality and urge

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the Secretary of State is not to do a grubby deal with the Murdochs. We

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know their history, as my Right Honourable friend on the front bench

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says, they break every undertaking they make to the Times to the Wall

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Street Journal. About broadcasting standards, what does it take to be

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declared on fit and proper to hold a broadcast license? Ofcom have

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apparently found a second significant corporate failure on the

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part of the Murdochs. In terms of her responsibilities in terms of

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broadcast standards, we have an entity found responsible for this

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second huge corporate failure at Fox News after News International.

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Regarding the fit and proper person is test I would ask him to put those

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concerns to Ofcom, they have the independent role. He will see their

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report later today. It ill behoves him to use the term grubby when it

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comes to the work that we will do. If undertakings are given, and if as

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a result of those undertakings I am minded to consider them, there will

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be a full statutory public consultation on those undertakings

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so that we can be as transparent as possible, so that they can be no

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allegations of anything being grubby at all. I'm glad that the Secretary

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of State has pointed to the need to make decisions on the basis of

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evidence. She will be aware that there was a long e-mail campaign of

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rather emotional e-mails on this. What role have they played in her

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thinking and how will that help to retain public confidence. I thank my

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honourable friend for the comments. The petitions and campaigns that he

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refers to have been considered as part of Ofcom's work. He will see in

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the report Ofcom have considered over 51,000 responses as part of

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their work. He is right that in my role, the quasi judicial role, I'm

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obliged to look at the evidence and analysis before me. I have made the

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comments in my statement that shouting the loudest is not

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necessarily the way to get the result of one wants. We are looking

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for evidence and we are looking for new substantive evidence that may

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make a change to this decision. Sir Vince Cable.

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Is it not the case that the Internet companies which have been referred

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to, are essentially aggregators of news rather than independent

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providers? A company that is the leading supplier of newspaper

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content, the second leading supplier of radio content, and the third

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largest provider of content is a threat to plurality? Mr Speaker, can

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I welcome the Right Honourable gentleman back to this House. He is

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right that there is much of the Internet news that we see which is

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content which has been previously written and owned by other

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providers, and he is right in his assessment of that. But in terms of

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the comments on media plurality, that is why I am minded to refer to

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a Phase inquiry. On the subject of phone hacking I would like to remind

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the House it wasn't just the News of the World that was guilty. The

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Mirror newspaper was found guilty of hacking. Back to the subject of

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evidence, and following on from the point my honourable friend full

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Hendley made, she will mow that there have been a number of

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identical e-mails from organisations -- Henley. Quite properly like 38

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Deg. From her statement she drew the difference between evidence and

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perception. Is it's not evidence which is now required? My honourable

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friend is right. It is evidence. I am sure there will be more e-mail

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campaigns. I can assure my honourable friend that my inbox is

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full completely to bursting of identical responses from around the

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world. But emotional perception is not evidence. What we need is

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evidence in order to enable us to make a decision in a quasi judicial

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way. Ben Bradshaw. She asks us to judge her on her record which I will

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happily do. When will she keep the promises made to the victims after

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the Leveson Inquiry? Both announce Leveson two and and Section 40 of

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the crime and Courts act, which disgracefully was passed almost

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unanimously by both houses and has to not been implement it by the

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government? Mr Speaker, we have had a consultation on what should be the

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next steps with regard to the second part of the Leveson Inquiry and

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Section 40. I will be publishing the responses to that consultation.

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There is a process that I need to go through as Secretary of State in

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order to take anything further. I think we need to remember that the

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Leveson Inquiry was 2011. Many things have happened, many things

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have changed in that time. We also have to think about how best we

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support local press and have a free, fair and vibrant local press. I will

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be looking at all of those points when considering responses to the

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consultation. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I thank the Secretary of State for

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her statement and fully recognise her quasi judicial role. During the

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election campaign on the doorsteps constituents raised with me there

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concerns about bias across various media and online platforms. The

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concern about value for money and about plurality. Easy for me to say!

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meanwhile, agree that this referral meanwhile, agree that this referral

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will give the public confidence when it comes to this and what they are

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actually taking out of the media or is it purely conjecture? I thank my

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honourable friend and I had a similar conversations on the

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doorstep in my constituency and other parts of the country. That's

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why it is important there is full public confidence and we have a

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transparent process the public can have confidence in. If she had sat

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in the High Court day after day as I had to do as a victim of phone

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hacking she would have heard endless examples and evidence, yes, real

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evidence heard in court before a judge, of the corruption that the

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Murdochs perpetuated deliberately in the British political system. The

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truth of the matter is you cannot possibly now make a proper final

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judgment on whether the Murdochs are proper people to have any broadcast

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license in this country unless you hear more evidence in court in

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Leveson two. Mr Speaker, the point is that that evidence was heard in

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court and Ofcom have looked at that evidence as part of all the work

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they have been doing and I suggest he takes his points about fit and

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proper person with Ofcom. Mr Peter Bone. Can I thank the excellent

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Secretary of State for coming to the House and making such a clear

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statement. One of the things that seemed to me in the statement was

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14th July cropped up as the date when responses could be given. We

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are going to be going into recess shortly after that date. Can the

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Secretary of State assure us we will not have a final decision while the

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House is not sitting? Can I just add to one thing one of my honourable

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friend said, that on the doorstep media bias came up a lot but I'm

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afraid it was media bias by the BBC. They suggested to me that they

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should be called the Brussels broadcasting Corporation.

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Mr Speaker, I am acutely aware of the Parliamentary timetable force on

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the 14th of July, I hope, will enable me to have time from that

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date to before the House rises to come back to the House with any

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further updates. But I will endeavour, as I have throughout this

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process, to ensure that the House is updated before anybody else. Hannah

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Bardell. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Sky Television is the largest employer

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in my Livingston constituency, so can I ask the Honourable Lady that

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she make sure in any considerations she make sure in any considerations

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and discussions she has, that the workers of both organisations and

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their jobs are given full and proper consideration? And further to that,

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as my honourable friend tried to elicit from her, she seems to know

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what isn't good enough for the process, but surely she must know

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what will be good enough. Surely that should be written down,

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published and will be evidence presented and put forward so we can

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have confidence in the process. I do of course recognise the issue with

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regard to people working for the organisations and employees and we

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need to be mindful of that. That is why in many ways it's important that

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decisions are taken in as prompt a time as possible in order that

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uncertainty does not persist and pervade. But it would not be right

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for me to in any way try and set out today what I think would be

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appropriate or not. It is for the parties to come forward with their

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representations and for me to make a decision as to whether I think they

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are appropriate to stop they phased two referral.

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Is the Minister aware of her total failure to see the link between on

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the one hand a fit and proper test, and on the other hand regular

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arrangements with them that might lead to some reduction in the

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influence of market share? Unless they are fit and proper, they will

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never meet those regulations. We know the first is not there, why the

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second? In the process for the media merger, I have a responsibility, if

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quasi-judicial role, to ensure that the public interest test of the

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enterprise act 2002 are fully met, and that media plurality, which is

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the question he raised, is dealt with. That is an ongoing test for

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the independent regulator, Ofcom, and I would suggest he refers those

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comments to them. As to commitment to broadcasting standards, many of

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the same issues are considered as are considered for the fit and

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proper persons test, and he will see in the report exactly what Ofcom

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say. If he has further substantive comments to make, I suggest he makes

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them as part of that process. I thank the Secretary of State for her

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statement. I am sure she will be reflecting on contrasting the

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broadcasting regulations with what exists online, and a huge impact

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that has. Even a hypothetical Fox news UK would have to be very

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different to its US sibling. Any broadcaster in the United Kingdom

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has to comply with the broadcasting codes, has to meet our tests of

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impartiality, has to meet our tests of credibility and fair reporting,

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and that may be very different from the tests employed -- applied in

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other countries. While we welcome the Secretary of State is minded to

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refer the proposed acquisition for fuller investigation by the CMA, and

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we are pleased the statement does recognise the danger of too much

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power -- media power in the hands of too many individuals, we would ask

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her if in light of her previous references to failures of corporate

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Government -- governance, in reference to phone hacking, is she

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now believes a CMA inquiry will go far enough to tackle wholesale the

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problems at Sky? I welcome the honourable lady to hear. -- to this

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place. I am obliged under the process to comply with the terms of

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the enterprise act 2002, and I am following those processes

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scrupulously. In terms of broadcasting standards, does she

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recall the anger over the Fox news broadcaster claimed that birds --

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Birmingham is a city where Muslims simply cannot go? If she approves

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this merger, what assurance can she give us that she can event that kind

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of offensive knowledge -- nonsense being allowed on a Sky News

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broadcast in this country? Any broadcaster in the UK has to comply

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with broadcasting codes. And those codes are different to those in

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other countries. I welcome the Minister's statement. The merger

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test busby fit and proper, there are many concerns that this fit -- there

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are doubts that the new service will be impartial. Is it right that one

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body controls so much of the media outlet, too much control in the

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hands of too few is surely a danger? And that is why I am minded to refer

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to a face two inquiry to ensure that we do have full confidence in

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whatever decision I finally take. -- a phase two inquiry. In coming to

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its view on their commitment to broadcasting standards, did Ofcom

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take account of the new civil case in which the judge, on phone

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hacking, has required James Murdoch to surrender his personal laptop? I

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would have to ask the honourable lady to wait for the Ofcom report

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and to look at that, but I would remind her that the duty on Ofcom on

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fit and proper person is an ongoing duty, Iniesta because of the

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reviewed and reflected upon, and that is for Ofcom to do. -- it needs

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to be reviewed. Union-macro our predecessors determined that the

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broadcasters should have a duty of balance in our news, as a result of

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which we trust the broadcasters to a greater or lesser extent than the

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press which carried out a campaign of character assassination on the

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leader of my party in the election. And rightly, the views of the BBC

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trusted the truth rather than the propaganda. But don't we have --

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aren't we in a world where fake news is a real danger, and activities

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that are invisible and outside the nature of all the controls we have?.

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We need a new charter for all news? -- do we not need? We announced in

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the Queen's Speech that we are looking to construct a digital

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charter which will look at the way that people access information off

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the Internet. And he right, I think we were all victims in this House of

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what appeared to be an echo chamber of people who would put something

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completely vile and false on social media, and it was reinforced and

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repeated time and time again, that is simply not acceptable, it is

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something I have raised with the social media companies and will

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continue to do so. The Conservative Party has blocked never said two.

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How can we respect the quasi-judicial role of the Secretary

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of State when she is closing of the hearing of additional evidence that

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was promised by the Prime Minister David Cameron would be heard to the

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victims of phone hacking? -- the Conservative Party has blocked

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Leveson two. These are different matters, and I am bound by the

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evidence before me. I'm sure the Secretary of State sees through some

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of the humbug on the Labour benches concerning the former leader who

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warmed the bed of the media mogul who became the godparent to James

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Murdoch's stepsister. But can I congratulate the Minister for the

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way she has conducted herself today, in the handling of this report? And

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look forward to being able to make representations. What MPs be able to

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meet her personally or will we have to write to her to make their case?

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-- will they be able to. I am happy to meet members, but can recommend

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he makes requests through the official line. Before they come to

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points

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