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parliament. First, James

Brokenshire.

Order, order. Questions

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to the Secretary of State for

Northern Ireland.

Question number

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one.

The Secretary of State for

Northern Ireland, secondary James

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Brokenshire.

Thank you, Mr Speaker.

A clear intent is to avoid any

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physical infrastructure on the land

border and we welcome the commission

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's commitment to this as an

important step forward. The success

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of the land border comes from the

fact that it's a seamless and

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invisible. They are resolute in

ensuring this remains the case.

Will

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be Government incorporate safeguards

to protect the peace process and

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ensure compliance with the Good

Friday Agreement, including in EU

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withdrawal Bill?

What I would say to

the honourable lady is that we are

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resolutely committed to upholding

both the Good Friday Agreement in

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all its parts and finding a solution

that works for the people of

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Northern Ireland and Ireland. We

have had continued engagement with

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the commission. We have in our

judgment made a good progress in

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relation to this. In that, there are

various principles that have been

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agreed which may well need to be

incorporated with any final

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agreement.

To what extent does my

honourable friend think that the

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European Commission has considered

articles eight and 21 of the Lisbon

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Treaty that requires the EU to

develop a special relationship with

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its neighbours and new to preserve

peace and prevent conflict? To what

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extent will that be achieved by

driving a border between Northern

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Ireland and its biggest trading

partner by far. That is to say the

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United Kingdom of Great Britain.

And

grateful for my honourable friend's

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comments and clearly we respect the

European Union's desire to protect

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the legal order of the single market

and the customs union but that

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cannot come and the constitutional

and economic integrity of the United

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Kingdom. As he said, we do recognise

the need for specific solutions for

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the unique circumstances of Northern

Ireland, that I think there is a

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responsibility to all of us to be

thoughtful and creative but that

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cannot amount to a new border

appearing within the United Kingdom.

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Thank you. May I ask the Secretary

of State is the Northern Ireland

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Office has produced an analysis of

the impact of Brexit on Northern

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Ireland that will contribute to the

rumoured 58 articles, the sectoral

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analyses that we know are being

produced? Will to all such materials

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as his ex-EU colleagues have already

done?

I thank the honourable

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gentleman for highlighting the

sectoral were currently 58 different

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areas of activity Kamal trade is

conducted with the EU currently and

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what the potential alternatives

might be. I can say that the

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Northern Ireland Office has

contributed at official level to

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network cross Government and he will

well know that the commitments being

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made are to the publication of that

ongoing work.

Isn't it the case that

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no one can decide what arrangements

mean putting in place on the Irish

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border if indeed any will be needed

until such time as trade

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negotiations have been concluded?

Isn't it the case that the EU should

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get in those trade negotiations now?

That I get on with those.

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-- get on with those.

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We want to proceed with the doctrine

that is the message I get to Michel

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Barnier when I was in Brussels next

-- last week. Insignificant progress

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to the first phase and that is where

our focus remains in seeing that

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they, yes, demonstrate our

commitment to this first three items

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but getting on with the second phase

which absolutely is about the

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injuring relationship and part of

that is very firmly solving the

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issues in relation to Northern

Ireland and Ireland.

Thank you. Can

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I warmly welcome what the Secretary

of State has said about the no

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creation of new borders in part of

the United Kingdom and canny be

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assured that we have supported him

on that and it would be catastrophic

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if not politically disastrous for

Northern Ireland to be separated in

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any way from its biggest market as

he says and he has our full support

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in that stands?

And grateful to the

honourable gentleman for his

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comments and the solutions that we

are determined in finding create no

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barriers, north, south, east or west

for the trading and constitutional

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issues that he rightly highlights.

That remains firm intent and I

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believe that some of the commitment

that already have been made by the

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commission underlined that but

clearly we need to get a firm

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agreement in that regard.

On this

issue of the hard border in the EU

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and the Brexit negotiations, as he

knows today Sinn Fein instead of

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coming to the house are taking place

in the assembly and being in the

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executive are down in Dublin

pleading with their political

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opponents for relevance and hacking

for more Dublin influence any

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internal affairs of Northern

Ireland. Will they this opportunity

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to reiterate the clear position of

the UK and the Irish governments to

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set out the Belfast agreement? The

Strand one internal issues of

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Northern Ireland are an matter for

the UK Government at this house

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alone.

Mr Speaker, I think the

honourable gentleman firmly set out

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the framework, because additional

frame at a Northern Ireland, the

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Belfast Good Friday Agreement,

principle of consent. Very firmly,

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the three strand approach and to be

clear, it is ultimately for the UK

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Government to provide certainty of

the delivery of public services in

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the Strand one issues in relation to

Northern Ireland.

Thank you. Could I

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have my honourable friend if,

regardless of the border set up, we

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hope it's invisible, regardless of

this, the security services and the

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police services of the north and

east now must work in the closest

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possible way and that is part of

Brexit as well.

I totally agree with

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my honourable friend in relation to

the strength of cooperation between

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the PSNI in all levels in terms of

fighting terrorism and organised

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crime and tally resolute against

this threat and how we are

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strengthened by the cooperation and

how that needs to deepen and

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flourish further in the years ahead.

I welcome those words from the

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Secretary of State for the crimes of

dishonesty of course as well as

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violence mark the troubles. What

provisions is he making to prevent

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any future hard border against

smuggling and organised crime? What

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assessment he made of the increasing

border Force officers needed to

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secure any hard border?

On the last

point, we are firmly working on the

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basis that a hard border will not

happen. That's a quarterly common

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travel area and that the work

jointly as part of the negotiations

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underpinned Nat. I would point to

positive joint work between Revenue

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and Customs agencies in Northern

Ireland and in the Republic, too, to

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confront organised crime and work

with the National Crime Agency, that

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is being strengthened even further.

Thank you. It's very kind of you.

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The Secretary of State will know

perfectly well that his Cabinet

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colleague, the Brexit secretary, is

preparing for a no deal Brexit. If

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we have no deal, that will

inevitably mean a hard border for

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Northern Ireland and that would be a

capacity for Northern Ireland. Just

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for once, with the Secretary of

State set aside his diplomatic speak

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and explain to the people of

Northern Ireland how the Government

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would take back control of the

Northern Ireland border in the UK

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crashes out of the EU?

I think it

rightly focus on getting that deal.

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Our support Common travel area,

which is equally supported by the

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Irish governments and the principles

that have already been agreed in

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relation to be progress on the first

phase of the negotiations. That is

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where our focus right the remains

and I believe that remains fully

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achievable. -- firmly achievable.

Question number two.

Thank you. The

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communal line continues to grow with

42,000 people in work than 2010, and

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read investment playing an important

part in that successful as we

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develop our new regulation ships and

expand global trade network, we will

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continue to promote Northern Ireland

have a place to invest and do

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business.

I think the minister is

seeking to put this question number

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three. That of the honourable

gentleman for Whitney who we would

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not wish to exclude.

I thank my

honourable friend for her reply.

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Would she confirmed that the

Government remains committed to

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devolving tax powers to the

executive in order to help Northern

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Ireland better compete with Ireland

for investment and jobs? For this to

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happen, we need a fully functioning

set of sustainable finances.

Mr

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Speaker, my honourable friend is

absolutely right. The imperative

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front is to see a fully functioning

executive restored so it can take

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these kind of steps to support the

economy along with many, many other

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things on it to do list.

Thank you.

Would my honourable friend please

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confirm that Northern Ireland

remains one of the most attractive

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part of the UK in which to invest

and the key to continuing this will

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be working with the restored

executive to ensure that Northern

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Ireland benefits from the modern

industrial strategy?

Again, Mr

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Speaker, this is precisely the point

in front of us. Northern Ireland has

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already proven itself to be a top

destination for inward investment in

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the last year alone unwelcoming 22

new investors, which brings 34 new

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foreign investment projects, more

than 1600 new jobs. But you can

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exact kind of thing further, we need

an executive in place.

In 2007,

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intelligible devolution, the parties

in Northern Ireland collectively

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agreed to throw their weight behind

the important work of growing the

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economy in Northern Ireland to

achieving success particularly in

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relation to direct investment. Any

Minister outlined how you will

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assist, invest NI in the absence of

ministers because Sinn Fein reviewed

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this to get back into Government and

deliver for Northern Ireland.

Mr

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Speaker, the honourable lady draws

us into some of the themes that we

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get to at some length in this place

on Monday night. This Government is

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prepared to do everything necessary

to support the good governance of

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Northern Ireland. The point remains

that our first priority is to see an

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executive restored so that it can do

its part of the economic development

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we all want to see for Rossetti, for

the rest of Northern Ireland and

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indeed for the good of the old

United Kingdom as they also face the

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large task of EU experts.

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Will the Minister ensure that the

government 's efforts to bring

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inward investment focus on the whole

of Northern Ireland, including

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places like Newry, Omar, and

Londonderry,/ dairy.

I look back 20

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last week when I was in the Newry,

talking to teenagers about the

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future they want for Northern

Ireland and that is extremely

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important. We need to look across

the entire area and ensure we are

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working for all of the people in the

Northern Ireland as well as all the

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people in the United Kingdom.

Mr

Speaker, this government is

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committed for a strategy that works

for everyone. We want to deliver

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growth across the country and

support and create jobs in Northern

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Ireland. Ultimately the requirement

for strong growth is political

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stability so I say again that we

received a restored executive.

The

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UK Government 's pledged to fund the

EU peace for a interrater up until

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2020, there is still already strong

third party cooperation in the

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northern Arctic programme so will

bid UK seat that third country

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status after Brexit or after 2020,

given the strong involvement in

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Northern Ireland in intereg or as

the government looking at an option

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to replace it?

This is a very

important point. I would be more

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than happy to write on the detail

but in brief the government will

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guarantee funding for structural and

investment funds projects signed

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until the point at which we leave

the EU. We have spoken specifically

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about European territorial

cooperation fund of which this is a

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part and we have a position paper on

Ireland and Northern Ireland and we

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think it is important to endeavour

to see those funds continue.

With

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the Minister agree with me that too

many people are concentrating on

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potential threats that may emerge

after Brexit but what is she doing

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to try and promote businesses in

Northern Ireland who have a

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fantastic opportunity to take

advantage of getting business into

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GB as well as into the EU,

strategically placed, as they are,

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in Northern Ireland.

I think the

honourable gentleman raises an

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important point. There are a few

things to say on this. The first is

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that we ought to pay tribute to

those businesses in Northern Ireland

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that have created so many thousands

of jobs, for example we see more

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than 10,000 new jobs having been

created in the last year alone which

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is important progress. Secondly I

would say this government will never

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be neutral on the subject of the

union and you will see our support

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on the trade that leads to go

between Northern Ireland and Great

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Britain. Our exit from the European

Union gives additional opportunities

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for firms in Northern Ireland to

trade around the globe that is an

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opportunity to be seized.

On that

precise point trade between Northern

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Ireland and Ireland is important but

far outstripped by trade between

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Northern Ireland and Great Britain.

Will the Minister confirm that the

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Conservative government will do

nothing to fracture the internal

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market of the United Kingdom.

Yes,

Mr Speaker, I certainly can. We are

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convinced of the need to go out and

seek those opportunities around the

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globe that will bring more jobs to

Northern Ireland, greater prosperity

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to both Northern Ireland and the

United Kingdom together because we

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are stronger together.

Number five,

Mr Speaker. With permission I will

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answer questions five and 12

together. The government has a clear

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manifesto commitment to work towards

a comprehensive and ambitious set of

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city deals across Northern Ireland,

to boost investment and unlock

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Northern Ireland 's full potential.

The Communities Secretary and I have

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already had early discussions with

partners in the Belfast city

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regions.

I would like to confirm

that city deals developed by this

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government have been a success

across Great Britain and that

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Northern Ireland stands to benefit

immensely from their development

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over there.

I can. The fact is that

Northern Ireland has had no city

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deals, whereas England, Scotland and

Wales have made 33 deals worth up to

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£4.9 billion. It is the change that

that brings. The other finance that

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that is able to unlock and that is

why we do believe very strongly that

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there is a firm place for city deals

in Northern Ireland and we are

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committed to advancing map.

Can my

right honourable friend give an

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assurance that as an England, it is

important that the provincial towns

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benefit from city deals and Willie

ensure that not just Belfast but the

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whole of Northern Ireland benefit

from the growth of city deals?

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Absolutely. We want to see the

benefit of city deals being felt

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across Northern Ireland down whilst

the Belfast city region have been

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advancing their own proposals it is

right that we do look across

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Northern Ireland and to the

north-west and all parts to see that

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the benefit of city deals is felt

firmly and the transformative effect

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that can be brought about is felled.

The Secretary of State should be

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encouraged that discussions continue

apace at local level in the Belfast

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city region and with officials at a

regional and national level as well,

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but with no Assembly sitting and the

Democratic participant of deficit in

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this arrangement, how will he

encourage the involvement of

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representatives in that Belfast

region and in this House to see the

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project come to fruition?

Is the

honourable gentleman knows, I have

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had some initial discussions with

honourable and right honourable

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members as well as with Belfast City

Council at that initial phase. We

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are looking carefully as to how this

work can move forward practically

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through officials and other means.

It is that determination that I have

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to see city deals taking effect and

the benefit of that being felt and

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how that engagement will continue to

make that happen.

Number six,

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please.

With your position I will --

with your permission I will answer

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this question 13 together. The

fundamentals of the Northern Ireland

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economy remains strong growth last

year at 1.6%. Economic activity is

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up and exports have risen.

Unemployment has fallen to levels

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not seen since before the Labour

recession of 2008 and 42,000 more

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people are in work compared to 2010.

I thank the Minister for the answer.

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Can the Minister confirm that the

unemployment rate in Northern

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Ireland today is 4.7%, down from 7%

under the party opposite and any

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return to the high tax and

out-of-control spending a record

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deficit of the Labour years would

have a disastrous impact on the

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Northern Ireland economy.

I

certainly would. Under this

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Conservative government unemployment

is at its lowest level in four

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decades. Label would put all of that

at risk and we want to see over 1000

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jobs continue to be created per day.

Excessive noise in the chamber. We

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are discussing... Order! Matters of

very great importance to the people

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of Northern Ireland and they should

be treated with respect. As should

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the honourable lady, the member for

Chelmsford, who is about to ask her

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question.

Thank you. Does the

Minister agree that was the recent

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performance of the Northern Ireland

economy is strong thanks in large

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part to this Conservative

government, the sparkling gem of our

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country that is Northern Ireland

still has the potential to do better

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and this would be boosted by the

restoration of an executive with

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local ministers taking local

decisions?

Mr Speaker, my honourable

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friend is absolutely right and I

know she knows the region well. She

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will know that tourism numbers, for

example, for the first six months of

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2017, have hit a high record and

Belfast and the Causeway Coast are

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being rated the best region in the

world to visit in the coming year by

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lonely planet. What we need to do to

continue that kind of progress is

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our ad political stability to the

mix so economic development can

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continue to be supported.

The

Minister will know that there has

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been some good results out this

morning as far as the economy of

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Northern Ireland but also would she

agree that this party has negotiated

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a fantastic deal with the Tory party

which will help to create jobs in

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Northern Ireland and strengthen the

economy in the future?

Everybody in

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this House ought to celebrate their

being further economic progress in

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Northern Ireland and there being a

strong government that can do that

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and support economic progress for

the whole of the United Kingdom.

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Could the Minister indicate to the

House who is now responsible for

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expenditure on this area? Who will

sign of projects on this area? Will

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parties other than Sinn Fein and the

DUP be consulted on those

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expenditure proposals?

The right

honourable gentleman is a

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distinctive Northern Ireland

minister and he is entitled to be

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heard by courtesy at the very least

by members of his own benches.

The

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Right Honourable gentleman raises

important points that again were

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given a very good debate in this

chamber on Monday night. The point

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is that we wish for political

progress to be seen through the

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formation of an executive where

accountability would be extremely

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clear. In the interim period we see

that measures have not been put in

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place by this House on Monday night

to allow the Northern Ireland civil

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service to continue to spend as is

required by the population of

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Northern Ireland and they are under

a duty to do so fairly and equally

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between communities.

Number seven,

Mr Speaker.

Maintaining our strong

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historic ties with Northern Ireland

is an important priority including

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the rights of our citizens in the

UK, as provided for in domestic

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legislation including the Northern

Ireland act 1949. These reciprocal

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arrangements reflect the

long-standing social and economic

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ties between UK and Ireland.

Along

with the Ireland act of 1949 the

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Good Friday Agreement has been a

pillar of progress and also meant

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that political funding rules in

Northern Ireland are different to

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the rest of the United Kingdom. At

the weekend and investigation

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revealed the constitutional research

Council, an organisation with ties

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to the Scottish Conservative Party

has been given a record fine for

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failing to disclose the origin of

£425,000 of donation to the DUP. Can

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the secretary of state in light of

the House today as to why the

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constitutional research Council was

given the filing the first place?

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All I can say to the honourable

gentleman is that in respect of the

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constitutional arrangements, yes, of

course we uphold the Belfast Good

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Friday Agreement and we are

determined that will be reflected

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into the final deal but I cannot

offer him any more greater insight

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into the other matters he has

brought into the House.

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I know from previous questions at

the honourable lady is concerned on

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a particular circumstances that can

apply to claimants in Northern

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Ireland. The DWP and the Northern

Ireland Department for communities

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have worked closely together to

enable the exemption for

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nonconsensual conception to be

applied sensitively. As I said to

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the honourable lady in July this

year guidance states that women

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applying for this exception do not

have to tell a third party the name

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of the other biological parent, nor

is there a requirement of the third

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party to seek any further evidence

beyond confirming that the exception

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should apply.

I have been pursuing

this issue for over two years now.

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That answer is simply not good

enough. When I visited Belfast

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recently the Northern Ireland

women's aid Federation, doctors,

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nurses, midwives, social workers,

all expressed their serious, loans

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about the applications of this

policy for women fleeing domestic

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is, both of whom can be prosecuted

under the criminal Law act in

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Northern Ireland. Will she act now

and speaking the Prime Minister 's

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ear and ask for this policy to be

scrapped once and for all?

No, I

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went. She making the answer is not

good enough but it has the merit of

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being true.

Can the Minister simply

confirm that women rape victims in

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Northern Ireland will be at risk of

potential prosecution as a result of

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these measures? Yes, or no?

No.

I

think the Minister and I hope the

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Prime Minister need to reflect on

that answer because I have a letter

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here from the Director of Public

Prosecutions in Northern Ireland who

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said in answer to my question about

this very issue, it is a potential

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offence to withhold information

regarding an act of rape. The

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legislation does not distinguish

between a Victor Mansaray third

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party to whom disclosure is made.

Each is potentially liable to

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prosecution. How on earth can the

government countenance making women

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in Northern Ireland who are subject

to rape imprisonable under the law?

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How can she accept that?

The fact

is, Mr Speaker, we are not doing so.

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As I answered to the honourable

lady, there is clear guidance on the

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former makes the legal position very

clear and we have sensitively

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