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Hello, welcome to BBC Parliament's

live coverage from the House of

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Commons. In an hour, the Labour MP

Wes Streeting has tabled an urgent

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question on the data hack, the

online taxi booking firm uber. The

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company is said to have concealed a

hack which affected 57 million

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customers and drivers. After that,

the Leader of the House will outline

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the forthcoming business in the

Commons and take questions from MPs.

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That will be followed by a statement

from the Work and Pensions Secretary

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on the changes to the welfare

benefit, Universal Credit announce

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in the yesterday's budget. MPs will

return to the debate on yesterday's

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budget with a focus on housing and

public services. It will be opened

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by Sajid Javid with Shadow

Chancellor John McDonnell replying

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for the opposition. First, we have

questions to the international Trade

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Secretary, Liam Fox, and his team of

ministers.

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THE SPEAKER:

Questions to the

Secretary of State for International

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Development.

The sect

THE SPEAKER:

Dr Liam Fox.

Before I

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begin, I would like to offer my

sincerest condolences to the family

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and friends of Simon Spears who

tragically lost his life whilst on

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board the Great Britain yacht during

the Clipper Round the World race

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last weekend. Our thoughts and

prayers are with his family at this

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very sad time. With permission, I'll

answer questions one and two

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together. The DIT's building a

world-class trade policies for the

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lopping term future of our country.

Our trade poll is Si's grouped grown

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significantly from 45 to over 100.

It continues to grow. We've

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established working groups with key

trade partners to explore the best

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ways of addressing key relationships

with Mexico, Australia and Japan.

I

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thank my Right Honourable Friend for

his reply. The business community in

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my Cleethorpes constituency are

eagerly looking forward to the

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opportunities new trade agreements

will impose. Could the Secretary of

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State clarify which elements of

trade bill refer to the free trade

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agreements?

The trade bill is about

maintaining the effects of our

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current trading arrange thes to

ensure continuity for businesses,

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workers and consumers ares we Lee

the EU. They will be used to

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transition trade agreements the EU

has already signed prior to exit.

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Work's ongoing to establish how

we'll deal with future free trade

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agreements. To claim this allows us

to write future FT As is untrue.

My

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constituents in Newark think it is

essential the existing FT as are

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transferred and rolled over as

expeditionly as possible. Would the

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Secretary of State confirm there

will be a separate consultation to

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the public and to Parliament on how

we handle those separate new FT As?

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There will be the trait White Paper

which is separate from the trade

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bill asked for views on what a

future engagement and scrutiny

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framework will look like on trade.

We're considering the responses and

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will engage in the coming months.

Given the changes we have where

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Pascal Lammy described asking away

from protection of consumers we have

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to take the views of consumers far

more into account on trade greats

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than we've done in the past.

When I

was a little boy, my grandmother

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said shame the devil and tell the

truth. When will this Secretary of

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State tell the truth he's been with

his colleagues going around the

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world begging for a trade deal.

Everyone's telling him we want to

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trade with the EU, a much bigger

trading group.

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THE SPEAKER:

I'm sure the honourable

gentleman wouldn't suggest the

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Secretary of State would ever tell

an untruth in this House?

Mr

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Speaker, I did not mean to infer. I

thought the House would like to know

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Mayer grandmother would say to me be

the importance of very asti.

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THE SPEAKER:

We're immensely

interested in the honourable

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gentleman's grandmother. The room

nations will be found in his memoirs

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which will be deposited in the

library and we can read in the long

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winters ahead.

We want to see what

the best deal is for the UK. How to

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get trading volumes and value up.

But, of course, we are very pleased

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to continue to go along with the

British public's view on the

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referendum. The honourable gentleman

would want to do the same since his

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constituents voted overwhelmingly. A

view he will endorse.

Can the

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Secretary of State explain the

likely impact of a no deal Brexit in

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respect of the F7 or so country

which we already have association

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agreements through the EU?

Mr

Speaker, we will want to ensure that

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those are replicated in UK law on

the day we leave the EU. Because,

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whether there is an agreement or

not, we'll have to have a legal

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bases for trading with those

countries.

Can my right honourable

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friend confirm the position about

trade agreements when we leave the

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EU that after April 2019, we will be

negotiating such trade deals and

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look forward to signing them when we

are free from the shackles of the

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EU?

Mr Speaker, again to make it

clear, before the leave the EU, we

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have to be able to transition the

existing EU free trade agreements to

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ghi of give us the regal basis to

trade. Up to that point and beyond

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we want to see what new

opportunities are available. If

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during an implementation period we

will still want to negotiate and

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sign free trade agreements.

He's

repeating what he told us recently,

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his department wants to copy and

paste these trade deals. It doesn't

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have the capacity to negotiate new

ones. Given there can't really be a

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better trading relationship with the

EU than membership of the single

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market. If taking back control means

duplicating what we have, why not

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take the easy and obvious path and

stay in the single market.

I'll help

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the honourable gentleman, it is not

possible to simply copy and paste

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existing agreements. There is

disking a regularation of TRQs into

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account. It is not quite as simple

as that.

You trudge into work full

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of doom, gloom-laden, thinking it

will all be too difficult or do they

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bounce into his office full of

energy and enthusiasm saying this is

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a wonderful opportunity so Britain

can be at the forefront of leading

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the world into the bright sunnier

uplands of freer trade?

Not all that

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many people bounce into my office,

though they regularly bounce out of

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it! We are an incredibly optimistic

department. We look to the future

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with great confidence. Let me give

figures. The last time we at very

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tied jobsment for 92 jobs we made

available there were 1698 app

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captains. A great deal of optimism

in our civil service.

The Secretary

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of State is indeed an optimist. It

is good to hear him upbeat about the

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trade deals which await us in the

post-Brexit world. Perhaps he can

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explain why when the red book shows

trade in the world economy

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increasing year-on-year by 4% over

the next five years, it also shows

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the UK's export growth decline from

3.4% next year to 1.2% in 2019.

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Plummeting to just 0.1% in each of

the following three years? Is the

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minister, perhaps, an optimist who

can find no rationale grounds for

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his optimism?

Mr Speaker, it is nice

to see project fear never dies.

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Rather than... Rather than... Rather

than going on projections, let me

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tell the honourable gentleman what

our economy has done. When global

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trade has been growing by 3%. UK

exports have been up 13.1% in the

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past year. In goods by over 16%.

That is the real performance of our

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UK economy. Let me tell the

honourable gentleman, there's

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incredible slack to export further.

We should be encouraging British

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exports to do so.

Question number

three, Mr

Speaker. I'm glad the

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honourable gentleman askings about

our export promotion capability.

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Exports from the region, including

my region, grew by 10.6% compared to

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2015. For markets such as Singapore

and North Korea. We will support

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this through global growth pilot or

a targeted export programme

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alongside Torbay development

authority. I'll thank pie right

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honourable friend for his answer --

Torquay factory won a national

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recognition for how its staff and

management worked together to grow

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their business. What support does my

right honourable friend intend to

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give them to grow further by

increasing their exports?

Photonics

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is about the science of light

generation and manipulation. You and

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all other members already knew that.

DIT's local international trade

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adviser engages with businesses in

the photonic sector and with will

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soon address the Torbay

manufacturing forum. DIT specialists

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will meet them in January to review

the proposition for the sector. A

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DIT specialist will visit Japan

promoting UK photonics capability.

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The south-west traditional grows

very fine livestock and has a

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buoyant export market. Would the

Secretary of State give me and the

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farmers of Taunton Deane assurances

if export certification demands

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increase the Government will give

the right support to thing a

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cultural industry as well as looking

into developing electronic systems

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to help certification process?

The

Government's committed to ensuring

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as math as possible an exit from the

EU for all sectors, including

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agriculture. Beyond that, the

department is particularly focussed

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on finding new markets for ouring a

agricultural sector. There's

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substantial growth in demand in

countries like China and India.

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Begin the UK's are the finest in the

world we should be at the forefront

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of those markets.

The minister of

states... We are guided by a desire

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to seek continuity in our trading

relationships with developing

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countries as we leave the EU. This

includes economic partnership

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agreements. The UK is, of course,

fully committed to promoting and

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delivering the sustainable

development goals. It is the first

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and only G7 country to spend 0.7% on

Nash inch on overseas development.

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He given that Uganda and Nigeria

have not signed because they do not

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think there are beneficial

long-term, how does the Secretary of

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state look at to address those

issues and will he considered GSP or

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GSP plus?

We haven't we will be

transitioning the full transition

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scheme of the European Union

including categories such as GSP and

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GSP plus. I am surprised if he is

opposed to us transitioning the

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EPAs. The existing ones, you are not

well, £209 million worth of imports

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from the developing world last year

whether imported using the EPAs

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which otherwise would have had to

pay a higher tariff to enter into

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the UK.

The EPAs are not working as

well and the West opposed to Africa,

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will he look into African trade

rather than trade back with a

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declining market sector, Europe,

compared to the rest of the world?

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We have had successful detox. My

Secretary of state was in South

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Africa a couple of months ago. --

successful talks. We are in gauging

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with Africa and different ministers.

Can I say to him we have agreed in a

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joint statement to seek to

transition the EPA with South Africa

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and also the agreement last week to

transition that as well.

Busy fellow

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he is.

Economic partnership

agreements have faced criticism from

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the countries they are intended to

help but also experts and academics

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across Europe. Dolby Secretary of

state consider including a sunset

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Clause into the rolled over EPAs so

that better at -- better agreements

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can be negotiated?

These are

agreements that are being

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transition. It is to take an

agreement in place and make sure it

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continues to be in place after we

leave the European Union. We are in

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constant dialogue with the

developing world partners and we are

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open to improving those preferential

relationships in the future if that

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is deemed to be in the interests of

the developing countries.

Under the

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leadership of my honourable friend,

the Member for Twickenham and the

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noble Lord Haig, the UK Government

was the first to publish a national

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action plan on business human

rights. Bobby Mimms give a

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commitment that human rights impact

assessments will be undertaken

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before any new trade deal is signed?

Daschle will the Minister.

The Duke

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remains committed to universal human

rights. We have a strong record of

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supporting human rights.

Safeguarding and supporting human

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rights is an integral part of

Government and prosperity Angela

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Knight are supported. Transitioning

arrangements means a similar

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approach to human rights.

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The Department of International

trade has overall responsibility for

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inward investment and outward

investment to markets overseas.

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Officials in my department and the

Department for business energy and

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strategy have had discussions on how

to support businesses. The IT is

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taking an export strategy to

understand businesses seeking to

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export -- the Department of

International trade.

Exporting and

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manufacturing businesses in North

Wales such as Airbus and Mugello and

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are at leading organisations but

they need infrastructure and

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investment from the Government to

face the challenges ahead. Why isn't

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this Government is so reluctant to

invest that support in North Wales?

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There was a growth deal in the

budget and we have an industrial

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strategy to be announced next week

that will talk exactly about how we

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can improve the infrastructure to

support those great businesses that

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penalty represents very well in

North Wales.

There is inconsistent

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bobbing in the chamber. A member Bob

Swans and he thinks that is

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sufficient to participate. Repeated

bobbing is required. I would

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encourage the honourable gentleman

to increase his athleticism.

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Apologies. Whiskey exports worth £4

billion per year, how can they

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capitalise on the success story for

Scottish wish the exports?

It is one

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of the success stories. If this

department that leads in every sense

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on the dash of supporting expos of

food and drink across the world, and

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it is worth DEF R&A that we look to

have market access in terms of

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standards.

The foreign and, offers

is responsible for policy on human

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rights across the whole of. Gosh

Foreign and Commonwealth Office. We

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would encourage all states to uphold

human rights obligations. Including

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when we meet them in the UK and

overseas.

I am going to put to the

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test the statement made by the

Minister made it a few seconds ago.

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The UK promote human rights in trade

talks. Did the Secretary of state

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raise the case of Andrew Osagie with

his Ethiopian counterparts and

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what...

My meeting with the

Ethiopian Prime Minister talking

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about long-term stability as well as

space, we don't raise the consular

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case and we hope we will see results

of that interaction soon.

I declare

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an interest as the trade envoy for

the Prime Minister to Ethiopia.

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Would he agree that the work that

the ambassador in Addis Ababa has

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done is tremendous that she has

arranged for visits, she has

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personally visited, but this needs

to come to an end? Will he

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acknowledged the work that the

Ethiopian Government is doing with

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refugees, more than 1 million in the

country, tried to get them into

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work?

It is always the aim of our

Government to get our governments to

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replicate the values that we have in

a practical way. I would like to

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second of the vote of thanks to

block that she and her staff doing.

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He makes a valid point, we do need

to take into consideration the

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extreme pressures are under, taking

1 million refugees is not easy for

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the most developed country never

made a country that is moving

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forward and development like

Ethiopia.

We are taking the

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necessary steps to operate our own

trade remedy system which will

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investigate and take action against

unfair trading practices which enjoy

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the UK industry. The new authority

will operate this system and make

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recommendations to address injuries

found by investigations. It will

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consider the interests of all

parties, producers, other

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industries, consumers as well as

regional and long-term impacts.

The

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Minister will be aware that his

Conservative colleagues in the

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European Parliament have frustrated

efforts to prevent dumping of steel

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in the UK market. This has had a

devastating impact on British steel

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production. Will the authority to

protect the interests of workers and

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industry in this country?

When he

mentions the European Parliament,

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perhaps he will happily work with

his own colleagues who seeking or

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have looked to frustrate the

process, as even talking about trade

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with the European Union to start

with. The lesser duty rule, the

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propolis of trade remedies measures

is to protect injury. The lesser

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duty rule provide adequate

protection to achieve this aim so

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that industry can operate on a fair

playing field without imposing

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unnecessary costs on downstream

industry and consumers.

I should

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remind them that it was this

Government that argued against trade

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remedies in Europe and failed to

protect the steel and ceramics

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industry. That is not surprising

that manufacturers will think that

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the new authority will focus on

consumer interest at the expense of

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businesses and jobs. What assurances

will he give that they will not

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always seek to apply the Lesser duty

rule and will he now commit to

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include social and environmental

criteria in the remit of the

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authorities so the UK does not

become the dumping ground for goods

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which can no longer be dumped in the

EU?

We have taken robust action with

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steel with the EU. We have taken an

active role in that. The Government

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recognises that overcapacity is a

significant global issue which is

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why we have been working proactively

through the EU and RG 20 partners.

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When he seeks to downplay the

interests of consumers and is,

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consumers will be vital and that the

heart of the trade remedies process,

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where they deserve to be.

I will

answer question eight and 13

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together. We putting export finance

at the heart of promotion by

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enhancing the support to exporters

and smaller companies. This is a new

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guaranteed to banks designed to

increase liquidity in the supply

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chain. More access to capital. The

kind of fill more orders. You can

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export finance will launch a

targeted campaign is part of the

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wider campaign.

With the Minister

agree with me that supporting

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British business, especially outside

of London is crucial for a

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successful Brexit? Will he visit my

constituency to discuss boosting

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investment for Scotland?

In a few

short ones that my honourable friend

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has been a member and he is a good

campaigner for the whiskey industry

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and the cultural industry in his

patch. I would be delighted to

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visit. The board will promote the

regions and we have regional

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advisers who work through the

Scottish Government, supported by

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the UK Government.

High-tech

software businesses that have global

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potential. Can these businesses

access UK Export Finance to reach

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into new countries to boost British

exports and to bring new high-tech

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jobs to my constituency? He is

welcome to stop off on his way up to

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Scotland.

I would love to visit

Berwick-upon-Tweed. Measures were

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introduced such as passing delegated

powers to the high street banks to

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offer up to £2 million of export

credit. It is important we recognise

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this as a resource that is vital for

financing export. She will know by

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the recent round table briefing

section that we had for all members

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of Parliament that we are keen to

engage all members to see how UK

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Export Finance can help their

constituents.

Is there an expression

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of interest by the SMBs that can

access the high-street banks and

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does the Minister believe this can

be promoted allowing the SMEs to

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safely expand?

I will have to get

back to him with the exact figures.

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We need to promote more of this

opportunity so and SME can get the

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access to high-street finance. We

have allocated an advertising budget

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to be able to support that.

99% of

UK Export Finance lending on energy

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goes on the most polluted fields.

Does the Minister think his

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department is exempt under the Paris

climate range treaty? -- climate

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change.

The entire Government takes

a view on the objectives of all the

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agreements we have undertaken it. No

department would go against that. We

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are undertaking financing for

offshore wind farms. We are helping

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to build more carbon neutral...

Topical questions.

My department has

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two asks, promoting UK expos, goods

and services, investments outward

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and inward and trade policy.

Ministers have undertaken visits to

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Europe, the Arabian Gulf, Asia and

Africa. I will travel to Australia.

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I would like to welcome Barbara

Nessa Fairhead who has joined as

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Minister of trade and export

promotion and will become even

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speech in the Other Place on Monday.

Commonwealth trade conference in

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2018 for all 52 Commonwealth nations

to harness the rising tide of

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goodwill and optimism and support

for enhanced Commonwealth trade

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within the exit from Europe?

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The UK's committed to highlighting

the value of and increasing inter

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Commonwealth trade. Businesses will

have an opportunity to meet in a

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three-day forum which will help us

promote our vision for global

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Britain as well as celebrate and

grow that vital inter Commonwealth

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trade he mentions.

America's Trade

Secretary Wilbur Ross told the CBI

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the essential pre-condition of a

trade deal with the USA was to move

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our regulation standards and

environmental protections away from

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the EU and closer to the Americans.

Last week, Michel Barnier said the

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essential pre-condition of a good

trade deal with the EU was keep our

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regulations and starred Ards close

to the European model. The

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Government says its top priority is

to have barrier free trade with the

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EU. Does the Secretary of State

accept he can have American cake or

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European gateau but he can't have

both?

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Sack the writer, Mr Speaker! When it

comes to standards, we've made it

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very clear with he will not see a

reduction in the quality I of

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products or safety of products made

available either goods or services

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to the UK consumers. We'll determine

in the UK what we think those should

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be. Then we will negotiate with any

of those countries that are willing

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to negotiate on those terms. We will

determine what we choose for

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Britain's future. Up like the party

opposite, we won't be dictated to by

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Mr Barnier.

What further steps is

the Government taking to increase

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outward investment in frontier

markets?

Well, outward direct

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investment is a new priority of this

Government since the summer of 2016.

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We have launched a number of pilots

looking at how best we might

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approach this. There's funding

available. The prosperity fund, to

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do precisely this. Can I con grate

limb him on his role as the trade

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envoy to Pakistan. In September, I

visited the huge GSK plant in

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Karachi which produces over 200

million packages of medicine for the

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Pakistan market. It is a vital part

of GSK's overseas often rations. The

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minister for inter flash fall trade

acted as a lobbyist in tax ace and

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environmental licensing issues. Does

the minister think this is

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consistent with the Government's

issues and it conforms with the

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Ministerial Code of Conduct?

This is

an excellent opportunity to correct

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the misinformation that was put in

the Guardian on Monday which the

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Department for International Trade

put out of release afterwards. To be

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absolutely clear that the meeting

with the Brazilian Energy Minister,

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which was public at the time, Mr

Speaker, I even put it on Twitter,

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it took the Guardian six months to

pick up on this and it's clear that

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the basis of the meeting was to

secure a level playing field for

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British companies in that market and

we make no apology for that.

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Brazil's touch environmental

regulations should apply equally to

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all companies across the board.

Yesterday, I met with a delegation

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of businessmen from the seafood

sector had base in the North East

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Lincolnshire. One of our meetings

was to discuss the designation of

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Immingham and Grimsby as sea ports.

The businessmen seemed enthusiastic

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about this. Could you expand on how

we might pursue this post-Brexit.

As

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we leave the EU, we can shape trade

policy in our national interest. We

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will be able to take advantage of

things that are not available to us

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while in the E EU. We want to look

closely at the implications of free

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ports. He has a large fish

processing capability employing some

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5,000 people. He may want to discuss

what overseas investment may do to

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expand that potential business.

Could the Secretary of State confirm

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how deinvolved states will feature

in these future free Tade

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agreements?

I had discussions

recently with all parts of the

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devolved administrations. They

clearly will be very important

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partners in putting together our

future free trade agreements. They

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should be treated with due respect.

They are not the only voices in

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Scotland Wales and Northern Ireland

we'll want to consult with

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businesses, consumers, unions and

the public. We'll need to have a

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wider consultation in future than

we've had in the past.

Small

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business Saturday is an important

business day in the run up to Chis

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mass. Is how is the Secretary of

State helping small businesses in my

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constituency to export more?

Small

business Saturday is in its fifth

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year, a celebration of our small

businesses. I imagine all members of

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the house will be taking part in

their own constituencies. In my own

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case, I shall be with the UK export

hub in my own constituency in

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Portishead. I encourage as many

members of the public to attend as

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possible.

Clause two of the trade

bill give powers to ministers

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potentially for the whole of the

next decade to sort out this issue

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of the 60 or so trade agreements we

currently benefit from by virtue of

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our membership with the EU. Far from

this all being resolved in the next

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16 months, is it not the case it

will be this issue dividing up

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tariff quotas, etc, along with

defining a new UK/EU trading

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relationship which will dominate the

work of his department over the next

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fee years as opposed to this fiction

of his fantasy trade deals else

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where

We've already touched a bit on

this earlier. Can we be clear that

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Lord Price and I have met with all

of the key trading partners subject

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to those deals. We have in principle

agreement for most of them. We have

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no problem from any in terms of

transitioning those key trade

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dreams. We do not see that being a

defy as being a technical process.

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There are one or two things which

need to be sorted out in those talks

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with those parters, of course, we

are in the right position and we

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look forward to transitioning those

agreements to be a key part of our

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trading future.

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