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the last year leaving the customs

union provides an opportunity to

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enhance this growth, particularly as

manufacturing exports outside of the

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EU are growing so fast.

Questions to

the Minister for Women and

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Equalities.

One, Mr Speaker.

Thank

you, Mr Speaker. With your

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permission, I would like to take

questions one and two together. The

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centenary fund has paid out £2.5

million so far, £1.2 million was

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given to Bolton, Bristol, Leeds,

Leicester, London, Nottingham. We

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are also funding the first-ever

statue of a woman in Parliament

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Square, Millicent Fawcett.

I thank

the Minister for her answer, she

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will know, I am sure, that the

Sheffield female political

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Association founded in 1851 was the

first woman's suffrage organisation

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in the UK. Will she therefore join

me in supporting the bid prepared by

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women across the voluntary arts and

education sectors to the fund and

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will she wish them well in their

ambition to use the centenary to

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encourage opportunities for women

who feel disengaged and

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disempowered?

I thank him for his

question. I am delighted to

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congratulate him and to welcome the

women of Sheffield in their bid to

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the centenary fund, I hope it will

do exactly as he says, encourage

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more women to engage in political

life in general.

Will the Minister

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confirm what level of support the

Government or contracted company is

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providing smaller women's groups to

encourage them?

Yes, I am happy to

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tell him that we have a website that

will set it out. It is women's

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centenary fund, whether bidding

process is set out, two types of

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grants available, larger ones up to

£125,000, and smaller ones start at

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£2000, that will give him and his

constituents the information they

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need to apply for the grants.

Are we

in danger of missing the point? The

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best way to celebrate the centenary

of women's Suffrage is to get more

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women to register and vote when

elections turn up?

My honourable

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friend is right, it is absolutely

imperative more women participate in

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political life, both in terms of

voting and participate in this place

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here. But we can do both things,

celebrate the centenary and in our

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celebrations, make that point

repeatedly so we get more women

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involved.

A recent study

published... Apologies. Question

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number three. My apologies.

Thank

you. The UK Government's record on

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the qualities as one of the best in

the world and leaving the EU will

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not change that. The Equality Acts

and equivalent legislation in

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Northern Ireland provide a

cornerstone and in some places go

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much further than EU requirements,

for example, world leading approach

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to gender pay gap reporting. We do

not need to be part of the EU to

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sustain our record in this area.

A

recent study has found the UK's

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voting record has historically

placed business interests over

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women's rights. Post Brexit Britain,

what steps is the Government taking

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to ensure that this business

interests will not be placed above

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equality?

The Government has a proud

record of protecting and enhancing

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women's rights, predating the

membership of the EU, for example,

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the Equal Pay Act of 1970. The index

in the EU placing us six out of 28

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and the gender pay clap were -- the

gender pay gap reporting policies go

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beyond the EU in many ways.

Rather

like an employment rights, the UK

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has been right at the forefront of

advancing the quality across the

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world, will she confirm that simply

is not going to change?

Yes. We have

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a proud record, a proud history,

proud tradition in the UK supporting

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workers, protect civil liberties and

champions human rights, leaving the

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EU will in no way affect that

historic tradition of which we can

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all be proud.

Number four, Mr

Speaker.

The Equality Act 2010

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provides protection from harassment

for employees. The coalition

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government repealed the third-party

harassment provisions in section 40

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of the act because they were

unnecessary and overcomplicated.

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Employers have a legal obligation to

protect workers and they may be

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liable if they fail to take

reasonable steps to prevent

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harassment of workers by third

parties.

I referred to my members

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interest, I am not on the menu in

the hospitality sector, research

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with cabin crew is showing the

majority experience sexual

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harassment, demonstrating why

section 40 of the qualities that

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2010 is vital. Will the Minister

commit to end implement this and

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focus on a zero tolerance approach

to any sexual harassment in the

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first place?

I am most concerned and

she should be reassured they are

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covered already by the Equality Act.

The reason those provisions were

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repealed in section 40 was because

they required not one but three

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occasions of harassment and we know

that in the three years that the

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provisions were in place, they were

used only once, so we having -- we

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have tried to improve the euro.

It

is encouraging to hear my honourable

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friend's response. -- tried to

improve the law. We have to be

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encouraging, and am I reporting,

with the workplace, and also make

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sure the unethical use of

nondisclosure agreements are not all

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working to stop people bringing

forward these claims of sexual

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harassment -- and on the most

reporting.

I thank her for her

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question and with her expertise, she

knows too well the challenge we have

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in advertising the rights people

have in the workplace and I am

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particularly concerned with

nondisclosure agreements. We know

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they can be used for lawful reasons,

to protect client confidentiality,

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but they cannot be used to shield

employees from claims of harassment

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or discrimination and any work her

committee can do to help the

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Government in advertising that, I

would very much welcome.

I know from

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my many battles in the coalition

government, some successful, some

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not, that the Conservatives of

session with deregulation often gets

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in the way of protecting vulnerable

workers and teachers that obsession

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that is the real reason those

provisions in the Equality Act were

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repealed, I was in the discussions

at the time -- the Conservatives'

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obsession with deregulation. It is

time to look again at the issue and

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by all means, improve on the

provisions there originally, as

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suggested.

I very much paid tribute

to the honourable lady for the work

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she has done as a minister and that

she continues to do in the House. We

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will keep this under review of

course. The point I made about the

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section 40 amendments was because

the general protection exists under

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the act but we will continue to look

at the evidence and we are very

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clear, discrimination in the

workplace, harassment, it is simply

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not on and it is against the law.

We

have to be very clear about this

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because the Government repealed

section 40 of the Equality Act 2010,

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there is no statutory protection of

the third-party harassment, so if

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the Government is committed to

protecting women and girls, will

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they show this by either reinstating

section 40 or at the very least

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introducing stronger legislation to

ensure protection against

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third-party harassment?

I hesitate

to correct the honourable lady, but

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it is simply not true, there is a

general protection against

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harassment in the workplace, it is

in the statute, the 2010 statute,

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general protection. If there are any

instances members across the House

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have of particular types of

harassment or discrimination, I and

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the Home Secretary will be always

willing to listen, but the Equality

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Act protection workers, and it does

not require three occasions of

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harassment, it requires just one.

Number five, please, Mr Speaker.

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Thank you. No girl or woman should

be held back because of her gender

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or background. This is why the

department forger Digital Culture,

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Media and Sport has identified

period poverty as a priority for the

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tampon tax fund which in 2018 and

2019 totals £15 million and we have

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encouraged its to address this

issue.

In Stockton South and across

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Teesside, residents led the free

period campaign and persuaded local

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authorities to provide free sanitary

protection for women and girls

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living in poverty. Which you meet

with me to work out how it would be

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replicated in other parts of the

country?

I am delighted to hear the

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council have started this innovative

project and in fairness to the

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Scottish colleagues, the same is

happening in Aberdeen as well. I

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look forward very much to hearing

the results of this pilot and I

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would be happy to meet the

honourable gentleman to discuss it.

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I was pleased to hear the student

union in Lincoln sales sanitary

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products at Costa before VAT, will

the Minister acknowledge this is a

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necessity and will she accelerate

the timetable for removing the

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tampon tax? Yes or no?

I'm very glad

our current university is leading

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the way on this but she knows we are

constrained by our membership of the

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European Union, she shakes her head

but I'm afraid that's the law. What

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we have done is lowered the race to

the lowest possible level, 5% and

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what is more, we are using that

money specifically for women and

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girls, funds to help them and the

moment we leave the European Union,

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I know my Treasury colleagues are

looking exactly at the issue.

Mr

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Speaker, it's a stain on our society

young girls and women are

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experiencing period poverty and its

tragic are government appear to have

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an ambivalence to it, although I

welcome the latest announcement.

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Will the Minister agree to work with

me in an innovative scheme I am

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running with a local supermarket

currently in its infancy to see how

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we can work towards the elimination

of period poverty?

I'd be delighted

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to meet a tizzy discussed it,

because it is portents -- meet her

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to discuss it. We are trying to

gather the evidence on it,

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particularly with schools. On the

issue of the VAT charged on tampons

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and other sanitary products, it is

something we want to address and the

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moment we leave the EU, we can do

so. In the meantime, we are using

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the money raised by the lower VAT

rates to help women and girls,

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particularly firms dealing with the

violence against women and girls. We

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have a general programme, 12 sub

themes including period poverty and

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I hope the money will be of good

use.

Last week, the Minister asked

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us to remember the suffragettes

change to the grills. I ask the

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Minister today to remember the women

change to the House because of

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period poverty or those changed to

poor housing because of universal

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credits or to a abusive partner

because of the closure of refugees,

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will she help tackle those issues?

This government, led I'm I say --

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led by a female Prime Minister,

something the opposition have never

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entrusted their leadership to, this

government is proud of helping women

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and precisely why we are bringing a

ground-breaking use of legislation

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forward this year to tackle domestic

abuse and help their victims and the

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children of those victims. It is one

of a long programmer to try to help

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women who are not just victims of

crime but also in the economy, more

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women in the workplace than ever

before and we all know financial

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independence is a key indicator when

it comes to ensuring women are not

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stuck in the terrible relationships

she has described.

Question number

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six, Mr Speaker.

I do like to groove

this question with question seven,

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eights, 13 and 15. More than 7500

employees have registered their

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intention to report and more than

1000 have published their data, the

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most recent data publicly available

on the government website. There is

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still over a month until the public

and private sector deadlines and we

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expect reporting to increase it

never can sleep.

One challenge that

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we face is employed as sometimes

deliberately conflate their pay with

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equal pay to avoid scrutiny of their

conduct -- fair play. A prime

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offender is the BBC, 70 MPs wrote to

the Secretary of State for culture

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to use their power for men and women

to be heard on this subject. Will

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she exercise her freedom of speech

and have a word?

I thank the Lady

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for raising this matter and it has

been instructive to see how the BBC

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has responded to this. I'm happy to

confirm I will take forward her and

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advice and have a word.

Will the

Minister confirm what sanctions will

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be put in place for those companies

who do not meet their obligations to

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publish the gender pay data by the

deadline?

An important question from

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him, we've put the legislation in

place, its ground-breaking, to

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ensure we close the gender pay gap.

See HRC will be overseeing any sort

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of sanctions that are necessary. I

hope it will be intention to use

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persuasion and demonstration of the

law to get participation but they

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can use the full force if they find

it's not being complied with.

What

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measures are government undertaking

to work with private sector

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business, civil society and others

to close the gender pay gap?

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Incredibly important we address

closing it and I think the

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transparency is one of the key ways

we achieve that. Having this

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compulsion on reporting on the

gender pay is an important first

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step but we will take it further,

engaging with businesses to see what

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measures they will put in place to

address the gender pay gap. When I

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talk to businesses about this, when

they realise they have such a pay

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gap, to some is a revelation, they

are moving to put in training and

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other measures to address it.

Only

three universities have so far

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reported on this and on a day when

academics are bravely standing up to

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defend their pensions, Canada

Minister tell us when she expects

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the pay gap will be eliminated in

our universities? -- can our

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Minister.

I urge them to address

reporting the pay gap, it is the

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law. A word on another matter, it is

important this dispute between

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students are effectively, the

universities and their staff is

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resolved because people need to get

their degrees and I would urge them

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to get back to work.

Only 1000 out

of 9000 companies obliged to publish

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data about the pay gap so far have

done so, what will the Minister do

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to ensure they meet their

obligations so we get the full

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picture?

It's a vital data and we

are proud of it because it has been

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introduced by a conservative

government. We will contact private

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and public sector companies to make

sure they report but it's an

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important first step, only 1000 so

far, I would urge the Gentleman not

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to make perfect the enemy of the

good.

When the Minister has a word

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with the BBC, will it be her

contention that it's the men that

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are overpaid or at the women that

are underpaid?

That is almost a

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philosophical question from the

Right Honourable Gentleman. My

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priority is equality, the point I

will be making.

I've always thought

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of the member for Shipley as a

philosopher. Of some distinction!

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Alan Mak.

Question number nine.

I am

proud to be part of the most diverse

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Parliament in history and my

honourable friend who asks this

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question is making his own

contribution by being the first

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British Chinese member of

Parliament, for which I welcome him.

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We are commissioning evidence to

identify strategies to overcome

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barriers to participation and for

our centenary fund, we support

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projects to get all women involved

in all levels of government and

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ultimately stand for elected office.

I thank her for her answer and kind

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words, 12 women Conservative

councillors currently serve on my

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council giving over 100 years of

collective service. Will she

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continue to support women elected

into office at local government

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level and congratulate my friends

locally for their service?

Such a

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good question, it is important we

also encourage women to participate

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more in local councils. Only 32% of

local councillors are women, I'd

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like to see the numbers arise. I

would like to share thanks and paid

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tribute to councillor Gwen Blackett,

soon to retire from haven't council

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following 45 years of service and I

would like to congratulate her and

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other who has served as well.

The

first woman to be elected to this

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Parliament was of course counters

Markowitz, an Irish nationalists. Is

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the Home Secretary looking forward

to a presentation of the portrait of

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the Countess next week by the Irish

Speaker to this Parliament?

Well,

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yes, I am looking forward to that

event and make sure it's in my diary

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so I can join the Lady for the

event.

Splendid! Order, topical

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questions, I look forward to the

presence of the Minister for Women

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and Equalities, that will confer

some additional glitter on our

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proceedings. Anna McMorrin.

Question

number one.

I'd like to update the

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House on the work we're doing to

support people back into paid work

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after time spent with carers. Of

which are 90% of course are women.

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We know too often people with skills

and experience struggled to get back

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into jobs after taking time out of

the labour market to care for

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children and family members which is

a huge loss for the economy. Which

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is why we've committed £5 million to

support people back into work in

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last year 's spring Budget. We

announced a new measures for

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returners and I'm pleased to inform

the House programmes for people

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wanting to return to jobs in social

work and health professions and a

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programme for those wanting to join

the civil service after the break up

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and running. Next month, we will

launch practical guidance to help

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private sector employees to get back

to the right skill level. I will

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continue to expand opportunities for

those who want to return to

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employment and will continue to give

updates.

Tomorrow in my constituency

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of Cardiff North, I am hosting a

pensions inequalities meeting for

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those born in the 1950s. When will

the government support these women

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all over the country shamelessly

exploited and robbed of their

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pensions?

This was legislation

passed in 1995 to create an equality

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between men and women. Those who

seek to change the legislation would

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be effectively creating an

inequality between men and women on

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an ongoing basis that has a dubious

nature in law and an inequality

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between 1950s born women and 1960s

born women.

In this important

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centenary year, what steps is the

government is taking to tackle the

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online abuse of women in public

life?

Well, I thank her for that

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question. It is so important to

protect women particularly who get

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the largest share of abuse from

other type of attacks that can put

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them off participating in public

life. That's why the Prime Minister

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announced a review that the Law

Commission will be doing to ensure

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what we say, that what is illegal

off-line is illegal off-line, is

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actually the case and the law is

following that guidance.

Mr Speaker,

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I welcome the draft domestic

violence and abuse Bill and are

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looking at new initiatives, I hope

it considers the impact of

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government policy domestic violence.

Therefore I ask Will the Secretary

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of State that the commitment will

include the abolition of the 4% tax

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on survivors of domestic violence

and ensure it's included in this

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draft a Bill.

I'm grateful for her

question, I will refer to colleagues

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who are doing the specific matters

in relation to child maintenance and

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make sure we write to her with the

specific response on that point

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within a week.

89% of those who take

time out of work to fulfil caring

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responsibilities are women and

employers have a huge role to play

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in helping women to return to work

when they wish to. And she set out

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plans to publish guidance for

private sector employers?

I agree

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this is a priority, for individuals

and employers, families and the

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economy, which is why we have

allocated £5 million in the last

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spring Budget to make sure we set up

programmes for training, guidance

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and supporting businesses and

employers and achieving exactly

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that. I will have further

announcements on this.

The

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Department for Education are

currently reviewing relationship and

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excellent education. I wonder, has

the Minister taken an opportunity to

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discuss with education colleagues,

to emphasise how important it is to

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identify FGM and child early forced

marriage as I priority area in the

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curriculum going forward.

I'm

incredibly proud of this government

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has made that commitment and we are

going to be consulting on its to

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ensure we get it right. It's

important to distinguish between

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relationship education which will be

compulsory in primary schools and

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sex education in secondary schools,

but the early as the Lady highlights

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of course will be considered as part

of it. But this government has done

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a lot to address the scourge and

unpleasantness and horror of forced

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marriage and FGM.

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Could administer update the House on

for the government is doing to

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improve female eligibility for auto

enrolment?

In 2012, overall

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participation of female employees in

workplace pension was 58%, but this

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has now increased to 80%, above men.

In her constituency, there are 1020

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employers who have enrolled 6000

employees into an auto enrolled

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pension, including a large

proportion of women. I will update

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the House regarding all

constituencies shortly.

What steps

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of the government taking to ensure

that in job interviews women are not

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asked about their family plans or

their childcare arrangements?

I

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think I can honestly say that I was

as shocked as she not out was to see

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about that and I will be discussing

it with the HRC and finding out what

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further communication is needed to

employers to ensure that doesn't

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take place, because it is clearly

not allowed.

Businesses have got

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just two weeks to file their gender

pay gap reports. It's clear

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some excellent investigative

journalism from the Financial Times

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that some businesses have filed

incorrect data. Is done

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deliberately, what will my right

honourable friend do?

I thank my

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honourable friend for raising the

issue. It is important to get right

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the gender pay gap reporting. It is

a vital tool for ensuring we close

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the gap. I will be turning to the

appropriate group to ensure this is

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properly handled.

With reference to

the BBC and the gender pay gap, I

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have also been looking at the

diversity of background of the

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senior management of the

organisation, but unfortunately they

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are not playing ball.

With the

Secretary of State have a word with

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them? Looks like I'm going to have a

few things to take forward with them

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and I look forward to coming back

and setting out what those

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conversations have revealed.

Following the consultation that

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ended last September, when will my

honourable friend bring forward

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proposals to remove costs as a

protected characteristic from the

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equality act 2010?

I thank him for

his question. He has done so much

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work on this issue. We are clear

that discrimination on the basis of

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caste is not acceptable. We are

considering the results of a

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consultation from last year as we

speak. The government will be

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responding shortly.

Can I ask what

discussions the government has had

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with minority women's groups?

I have

had a number of conversations with

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minority women's groups. When I go

out to discuss issues to do with

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integration, I always make a special

point of engaging with women's

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groups and finding out what we can

do to help them. Often there are

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concerns at the sort of concerns he

and I might have about our own

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families, access to jobs, access to

language courses, access to general

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public services. The Communities

Secretary will shortly bring forward

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an immigration strategy which I

think will address some of those

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concerns.

Regarding social media

companies, can I urge her to don her

0:28:550:29:09

ministerial hat and look at what

companies can do proactively to

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ensure women are not put off going

into public life?

He is right. The

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issue of abuse of women online puts

people off. I recently visited the

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West Coast to discuss high levels of

crime online with internet companies

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and that was productive. We've got

them to agree to a number of

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additional measures.

Will the

Minister consider criminalising

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upskirting, to end this degrading

and humiliating premise?

Upskirting

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is a modern phenomenon which the law

has not quite kept up with modern

0:29:540:30:01

habits. It is an issue of which I'm

much aware. My Police and Crime

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Commissioner campaigns on this

thoroughly. The government is

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considering this. Perhaps I could

meet with the honourable lady to

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discuss this with her?

What ongoing

work is the government doing to

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tackle domestic violence?

At I can

reassure my honourable friend that

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we take domestic violence very

seriously and we will shortly bring

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forward a consultation ahead of a

new domestic violence Bill, which we

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will bring forward, which will

address this heinous crime and I

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believe start to reduce the amount

of domestic violence we are seeing

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in this country.

There is strong

anecdotal evidence to suggest that

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women are missing days at school due

to period poverty. May I ask what

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has been, Saint, what research are

you looking at and when will it be

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published to the House?

Last summer,

we asked for help from the

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Association of School and College

leaders Forum and the received a

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limited response. We're trying to

produce an analysis of our absence

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data, to look for evidence of period

poverty and we will publish the

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findings of that due course.

Further

to the Minister's earlier answer, if

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the state pension ages of men and

women were to be different, with

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that infringe equality legislation?

Potentially yes.

Will the Minister

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explained what plans the government

will put in place to protect the 200

0:31:500:31:56

women and children who are turned

away from refugees every single day?

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-- refuges.

We take very seriously

the issue of refuge. Sometimes what

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happens is when a woman applies for

one refuge, doesn't get accepted at

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that one, she goes on to the second

or third and that counts as one

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being turned away. Are they share

his

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