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forward Digital, culture, media and

sport. Secretary Matt Hancock.

Thank

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you very much, Mr Speaker. Mr

Speaker, with your permission, I

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wish to make a statement on the

Leveson Inquiry and its

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implementation and the freedom of

the breast. Over many centuries in

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Britain, our press has held the

powerful to account and been free to

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report on investigate without fear

or favour. These principles underpin

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our democracy and our -- and are

integral to our freedom as a nation

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and today in a world of internet and

click bait, our press face critical

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challenges that threaten their

livelihood unsustainability, with

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declining circulations and a

changing media landscape. It is in

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this context that we approach the

Leveson Inquiry which was set up

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seven years ago, in 2011, and

reported six years ago in 2012, in

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response to events over a decade

ago. The Leveson Inquiry was a

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diligent and thorough examination of

the culture, practices and ethics of

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our press in response to illegal and

improper press intrusion. There were

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far too many cases of terrible

behaviour and, having met some of

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the victims, I understand the impact

that this had. From the start I want

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to thank Sir Brian for his work the

inquiry lasted over a year and heard

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evidence from more than 300 people,

including journalists, editors and

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victims. Three major police

investigation is examined a wide

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range of offences and more than 40

people were convicted. The inquiry

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and investigations were

comprehensive and since it was set

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up, the terms of reference for a

part two of the inquiry have largely

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been met. There have also been

extensive reforms to policing

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practices and significant changes to

press self-regulation. Ipso has been

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established and now regulates 95 %

of national newspapers by

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circulation. It has taken

significant steps to determine its

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independence as a regulator and in

2016, so Joseph Pilling concluded

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that ipso had largely complied with

lovers and's recommendation. There

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have been further improvement since

and, I hope, more to come. Ipso

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introduced a low cost arbitration

system and it has processed more

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than 40,000 complaints in its first

two years of operation and ordered

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multiple front-page corrections or

clarifications and newspapers have

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made improvements to their

governance frameworks to improve

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internal controls, standards and

compliance. One regulator, Impress,

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has been recognised under the Royal

charter. The College of policing has

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published a code of ethics and

developed national guidance for

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police officers on how to engage

with the press and we have

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legislated in the policing and crime

act to strengthen protections for

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police whistle-blowers. So it is

clear that we have seen significant

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progress from publications, from the

police and from the new regulator.

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And the media landscape today is

markedly different from that which

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Sir Brian Leveson 2011. The way in

which we consume news has changed

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dramatically. Newspaper circulation

has fallen by around 30 % since the

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conclusions of the lovers and

inquiry and although digital

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circulation is rising, publishers

are finding it much harder to

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generate revenue online. In 2015 for

every £100 newspapers lost in print

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revenue they gained only £3 in

digital revenue. Our local papers in

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particular are under severe

pressure. Local papers help to bring

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together local voices and shine a

light an important local issues, in

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communities, courtrooms and council

chambers and as we devolve more

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power further to local communities,

they will become even more important

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and yet over 200 local newspapers

have closed since 2005, including

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two in my own constituency. These

are the new challenges and there are

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also challenges that were only in

their infancy in 2011. We've seen a

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dramatic and continued rise in

social media, which is largely

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unregulated, and issues like click

bait and fake news and malicious

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disinformation and online abuse

threatened high-quality journalism.

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The foundation of a successful

democracy is a sound basis for

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democratic discourse and this is

under threat from these new forces,

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and that requires urgent attention.

These are today's challenges and

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this is where we need to focus,

especially as over £48 million was

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spent on a police investigation and

inquiry. During the consultation,

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12% of direct respondents were in

favour of reopening the Leveson

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Inquiry, with 66% against. We agree

and this is the position that we set

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out in the Conservative party

manifesto. Sir Brian, who I think

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for his service, agrees that the

inquiry should not proceed on the

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current terms of reference but

believes that it should continue in

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an amended form. We do not believe

that reopening this costly and

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time-consuming public inquiry is the

right way forward. So, considering

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all of the factors, I have informed

Sir Brian that we are formally

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closing the inquiry.

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We will take action to safeguard the

lifeblood of democratic discourse

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and tackle challenges the media face

to day but died decades ago. During

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the consultation be found serious

concerns with section 40 of the

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crime act. It would exacerbate the

problems. Respondents worry it will

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pose further burdens. As one high

profile viewer put it he said and I

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quote newspapers are already

operating in a tough environment and

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these proposals will make it

tougher. They will add to the risk

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of self-censorship. The threat of

having to pay both costs no matter

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what the challenge would have the

effect of leaving journalists

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questioning every import named and

including the most innocuous data.

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Section 40 risks damaging the paper

you love and the impact meaning that

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papers will find it difficult to

survive. These aren't my words but

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the words of Alistair Campbell

talking about the chilling threat of

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section 40. If anybody knows about

the threats to the press it is

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Alistair Campbell. Of the 7% of

direct respondents only 7% of direct

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respondents favoured full

commencement of section 40. By

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contrast, 79% favoured full repeal.

Mr Speaker we have decided not to

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comment section 40 of the crime and

to seek repeal at the earliest

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opportunity. Action is needed not

based on what is in the past but

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what is needed to address today's

problems. And the majority are

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Internet safety strategy is looking

at online behaviour and would firmly

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tackle the problems of online abuse.

The review into sustainability of

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high-quality journalism will address

concerns on news on media. It will

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do that in a forward-looking way and

respond to the challenges of today

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but the challenges of yesterday. The

future of a vibrant press matters to

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us all. There has been a huge

response from the public to the

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conservation and I want to thank

everyone of the respondents. We have

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considered all the evidence,

consulted widely, with regulators

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and publications, and the world has

changed since the livers and enquiry

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was established and we have seen a

side the lead actress Isaac

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Chamberlain the landscape of the

media. The work of the enquiry has

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had a huge impact. We thank Sir

Brian for lending his delegation at

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national and local levels. A press

to hold the powerful to account is

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an essential component of our

journalism. Received a press and a

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media that is robust and

independently regulated. The steps I

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have set out today will help give

Britain a press to hold the powers

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that are to account.

Thank you Mr

Speaker. As I have said through you

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before timing is everything in

politics. If I'm looking breathless

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and fatigued this morning it is

because I have carried a heavy load,

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in the gym, lifting weights,

visualising Paul Dacre. For those

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increasing number of colleagues who

do not read the Daily Mail any more,

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I refer them to my register of

members interests. I think should

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take Mosley issue head-on, and if I

thought for one moment he held those

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views contained in the leaflet of 57

years ago I would not have given him

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the time of day. He is a man though

who in the face of great family

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tragedy and overwhelming media

intimidation just uses emitted

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resources to support the weak

against the strong. And on this

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issue I would like to thank the

secretary of state or his statement

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is not just in the last half-hour

but over and over again. Yeah after

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year. This announcement,

conveniently timed to be buried

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under a flurry of snow is a

disappointment, a breach of trust,

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and a bitter blow to the victims of

press intrusion... But it is not in

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any way a surprise. We know now for

certain what we have suspected all

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the time. Conservative Prime

Minister David Cameron joined other

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party leaders to say he would keep

his promises to the victims of phone

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hacking, he and his party were

acting not out of conviction that

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out of weakness and for a breach

period of time and for the first

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time ever, there was more to be

gained politically by political

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parties from standing up to the

tabloid media and bowing down to it.

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And when every Conservative MP then

important back this policy including

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the current Prime Minister and the

present Secretary of State they did

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not really mean it. They were

waiting for winds to change, waiting

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for the fast to die down, waiting

for a time when they could as

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quietly as possible break their

promises. Today Mr Speaker the time

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has finally come. We knew what the

Conservatives really thought when

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successive secretaries and state

refused to implement section 40 of

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the crime of Courts act, the part of

the Levenson system that would

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provide access to justice for

ordinary citizens. While offering

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protections to journalists and

newspapers which signed up to any

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Levenson complied self-regulatory

body. The papers absurdly cherish

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you heard it as state regulation and

point instead to the independence of

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their alternative non-Levenson

complied regulation ipso. The

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government still has too scared to

make the case for its own policy and

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finally today it is formally

capitulating. And they capitulate to

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on the question of whether to

complete the investigation into how

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phone hacking happened, and what is

happening now? Underlying the phone

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hacking scandal we saw one of the

biggest corporate scandals and one

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of the biggest corporate governance

failures of modern times. The

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Secretary of State say the terms of

reference of levels and to have

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largely been met. But I don't agree.

Here are some of the things Levenson

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two was supposed to guess to get. To

enquire into the extent of

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illegality at News International. To

enquire into the way that police

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investigated allegations into News

International and other groups. To

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enquire into corrupt police

agreements and Robert investigation

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of complaints. To enquire into the

extent of corporate governance and

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management failures at News

International and the organisation

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none of these questions have been

answered. And by betraying the

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victims of phone hacking in this

statement today the Secretary of

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State is trying to ensure that they

never will be. So can I ask him if

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it is revealed that the criminality

that took place at News of the World

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extended to other newspapers, will

he reconsider his position. The last

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thing the Murdoch and other empires

wanted was for an enquiry, with

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powers and the axe to gets documents

and get their dirty laundry. The

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last thing they wanted was more

attention of their methods. At a

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time where it may be revealed that

other papers not necessarily the

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ones at the heart of the scandal

were also involved in criminality,

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they have been lobbying today, hard,

for today's outcome. They would give

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the secretary of state a man who

enjoys favourable headlines plaudits

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in tomorrow's leader columns. We

already know Paul Dacre and rebut

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Modoc and the Barclay brothers have

proved that the secretary of state

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statements, after all they write it.

He could have chosen to do the right

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thing. But he chose not to stand up

to the tabloid style newspapers

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robbing other Prime Minister in this

government. He could have pulled the

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rug from under them, they could pull

it from him whenever they choose.

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Let me close with David Cameron's

words to the Levenson enquiry in

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June 9012. I will never forget

meeting the family in Downing Street

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to run through terms of this enquiry

with and to hear what they have been

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through. How it is redoubled,

trebled the pain and agony there

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been through over losing Millie. I

will never forget that. That is the

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test of all of this. It is not do

the politicians or the press feel

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happy with what we get? It's are we

really look protecting people who

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have been caught up and thrown to

the Wolf by this process. That is

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what the test is. The secretary of

state will prosper politically from

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this statement today. But he has

failed that test.

Thank you Mr

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Speaker. Now of course the case of

the victims of press intrusion is an

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incredibly important consideration

in making these judgments but I make

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these judgments not based on the

register of members interests but on

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the basis of national interests and

the issues faced by the victims had

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been looked into in the enquiry, in

the three police investigations, and

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the issues of the future of our

media include this but are much,

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much broader than it. He stands at

the dispatch box and talked about

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the greed of the media but proposals

from inside his side of the press

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would lead to a press bettered but

not free. We do not love every story

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that is written about us in the

press but the idea that the solution

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lies in shackling our free press

with the punitive costs of any

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complainant is completely wrong and

that the honourable gentleman

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opposite nose and we all know where

he is coming from on the issue of

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press freedom, he is tied up with

the opponents of press freedom. The

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democratic countries face huge

challenges in making sure that we

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have robust but fair discussions in

public life and the approach

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proposed by his side of the house

would make it even harder. He talks

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about keeping promises and we are

keeping promises made to ask

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constituents who elected us on this

side on the manifesto to support a

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free press, and he talks about the

need to look into the past, but

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there have been investigations and

enquiries costing many millions of

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pounds and my judgment is that it is

not proportional and in the natural

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interest to follow with millions of

pounds more. So the message should

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go out loud and clear from this

house that we support every single

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local newspaper in this country, big

or small, these publications, and

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that is why we propose real and

meaningful solutions for a vibrant

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and free and independent press and

we will face up to the challenges

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that we see before us today and I

hope the honourable gentleman and

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his party will come to support us in

this because we need a strong

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democratic discourse over the

future.

The secretary of state

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public predecessor spies the select

committee that we would feel a full

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response to the commission. We have

yet to receive that, can he give me

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a assurance that the members will

receive that in good time before his

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appearance in front of the select

committee on the 14th of March? I

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have not only made this statement

today but also will be publishing

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the full response to the

consultation with good details and

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look forward to the select committee

to discuss the question narrowly and

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also the wider actions to be taken

she plays a full part in and take a

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full basis for discourse in this

country.

I thank the Secretary of

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State for his statement. The

secretary of State will no, I wrote

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to him on the 25th of February

seeking an update on the progress of

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this enquiry and asking if and when

it would be incremented, I pleased

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it has come to the dispatch box at

least today to firefighter.

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Our position has always been that

should a UK wide part two of leather

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soon go ahead, this must take into

account the distinct legal content

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in Scotland. We believe all

individuals should have a right to

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redress when they feel they have

been victims of malpractice.

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However, the Scottish Government has

no plans to introduce statutory

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today plans to... Are areas that are

clearly within devolved competence

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for Scottish Parliament. Can hear

sure is going forward that he will

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respect the devolution settlement

and respect independence of the

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Scottish legal system? And does he

agree that by not doing so he would

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set a dangerous precedent when

determining the ability of the

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Scottish Parliament to take

decisions in devolved areas?

Well,

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Mr Speaker, I agree wholeheartedly

with what the SNP spokesman has

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said. It is of course part of the

devolution settlement that these

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issues are dealt with in Scotland.

And I of course respect the separate

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and distinct legal system in this

area. Now he asked about whether we

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would respect that going forward. He

will know as well as I do that there

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are amendments put in by the data

protection Bill by which we have the

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second reading on Monday. With

respect to data protection only

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called for and with wire at Levenson

to type enquiry and the commencement

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of section 40 on a UK wide basis.

And I look forward to discussing

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with him how we can make sure that

we have the respect we need for the

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devolution settlement and for the

Scottish press and it is my view

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that the single best way that we can

deal with this problem that he

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rightly raises is to dispose with

those amendments in their entirety.

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I very strongly welcome my right

honourable friend's statement. Does

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he agree that now more than ever

newspapers play a vital role in

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holding both government and

opposition to account? And he's

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absolutely right that rather than

looking backwards at the events of

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ten years ago and adding to the

costs of local newspapers, we should

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be supporting newspapers in meeting

the challenges of the Internet

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giants.

Well, I agree with my right

honourable friend wholeheartedly,

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not least because as points out one

of the jobs that you have got to do

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when you are Secretary of State is

look forward and look at the

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problems that we have today and how

we solve them. And the problem that

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he raises about local newspapers

isn't a marginal or a side issue.

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Over 200 local papers have closed in

the past decade and a bit, including

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local papers in my patch and I do

not want to see that. I do not want

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to see that accelerated by the

actions of this House and that is

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what would happen if we do not take

the course of action

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that we have put forward today.

Having spent many hours with the

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Dowling family and with Christopher

Jefferies and many others, can I

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just say on behalf of all the

victims that many of us will feel

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that the Secretary of State has just

shoved another little knife in our

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heart. In all honesty, we had hoped

that the promises were real

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promises. Promises that we would get

to the truth, not just of the bits

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and pieces that were able to be

dealt with as Sir Brian says but the

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elements that were expressly

excluded from that original

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investigation, in particular the

collusion of the Metropolitan Police

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with the press, which could not be

looked at all. And I do find it

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inconceivable that he only talks

about the freedom of the press when

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there are of course the feeling that

the press is important but too many

0:24:520:24:57

others of us it's also important

that politicians should be able to

0:24:570:25:00

speak without fear or favour. And

that means we should no longer be

0:25:000:25:06

cowed by press barons, we should be

able to do what is right for

0:25:060:25:10

society. Simply ask for the

Secretary of State, if everything

0:25:100:25:13

that he said today's true, why on

earth did the government make all

0:25:130:25:17

those promises in the past and why

did he vote for the legislation?

0:25:170:25:25

Well, the world has changed since

2011 and the truth is that the rise

0:25:250:25:29

of the Internet means that some of

the issues that he rightly raises

0:25:290:25:32

about making sure that the debates

that we have is a reasonable one and

0:25:320:25:39

not based on abuse and bullying is

much, much broader and it is

0:25:390:25:45

tackling the problems of today that

is our task now. Now, of course

0:25:450:25:52

there were abuses that were looked

into in the enquiry and they have

0:25:520:25:58

been looked into by the police in

three investigations with over 40

0:25:580:26:03

criminal convictions since. And the

judgment that we have to make is

0:26:030:26:06

what is the best thing to do for the

future of this country where the way

0:26:060:26:11

in which we debate politics, make

decisions, is under challenge

0:26:110:26:16

because of new technology in a way

that it has not been for decades if

0:26:160:26:20

not centuries and getting those

solutions right is mission-critical,

0:26:200:26:24

I would suggest, to our future as a

liberal democracy and that is where

0:26:240:26:29

we're putting our to.

I welcome the

Secretary of State's response to the

0:26:290:26:37

consultation and the concerns raised

about section 40. Could the

0:26:370:26:42

Secretary of State outline further

its potential impact on the

0:26:420:26:45

viability of local newspapers such

as the long meeting Chronicle and

0:26:450:26:50

others in my constituency?

Well, she

mentions three local papers and what

0:26:500:26:57

I would say is because of the nature

of section 40 of the crime and

0:26:570:27:03

Courts act, anybody making a

complaint will have the costs

0:27:030:27:10

awarded to the newspaper and not to

the complainant if they are not a

0:27:100:27:16

member of a Royal Charter approved

regulator. And that means that

0:27:160:27:22

anybody making any complaint would

effectively be able to stop a

0:27:220:27:28

journalist from pursuing a story, as

set out by Alistair Campbell very

0:27:280:27:32

eloquently I thought. And the

situation I thought the Reed has

0:27:320:27:36

changed since 2011 because nobody

imagined that self regulator in it

0:27:360:27:40

so would come to the fore, which now

covers 95% of national newspapers,

0:27:400:27:46

which has a low-cost arbitration

system and can require the

0:27:460:27:49

corrections to be put in place. Now

it is not perfect and I hope they

0:27:490:27:54

make further progress but nobody

imagined that it would be there at

0:27:540:27:58

all and so we have a better system

than was in place and that allows

0:27:580:28:04

both for redress but also from local

newspapers to thrive as much as

0:28:040:28:07

possible.

0:28:070:28:17

I welcome my honourable friend's

statements because I believe that

0:28:180:28:22

whilst newspapers often make the

life it intolerable they make in Day

0:28:220:28:29

complacency impossible. I do worry

about local newspapers and I welcome

0:28:290:28:32

what you said about section 40

because we used to have three, we

0:28:320:28:36

now have one and we have a very good

Internet site but could I ask my

0:28:360:28:44

honourable friend what other things

he's going to do to help strengthen

0:28:440:28:48

local newspapers?

This is an

important question and we are

0:28:480:28:51

working hard on what we can do

through this review of the

0:28:510:28:54

sustainability of the press, with

which I hope that he and Harlow

0:28:540:28:58

start will engage with to make sure

that we support not just from the

0:28:580:29:05

big organisations such as the BBC

and big Internet giants but also

0:29:050:29:08

commercial models that work

effectively to deliver news locally

0:29:080:29:11

and nationally.

I am very

disappointed with the statement the

0:29:110:29:21

secretary of State has made today

and feel personally let down by the

0:29:210:29:25

comments he has made in answer to

some of the questions. I'd like to

0:29:250:29:29

know what is in this for the victims

of phone hacking and press abuse?

0:29:290:29:35

What does the Secretary of State say

to that dour and Hillsborough

0:29:350:29:38

families and other countless victims

of the appalling press abuse? There

0:29:380:29:46

is nothing in this, the promises

that were made to them by a

0:29:460:29:51

Conservative Prime Minister and the

legislation that was voted on by the

0:29:510:29:57

Secretary of State, times have not

changed for the victims and there is

0:29:570:29:59

nothing in this for them. What will

he say to them?

Well, what I have

0:29:590:30:05

said and what I will say to them is

that we have to make sure that the

0:30:050:30:11

media and news industry that we have

in the UK can hold the powerful to

0:30:110:30:18

account and can respond to today's

challenges. And that means facing

0:30:180:30:23

the country as it is now, including

with the stronger press

0:30:230:30:28

self-regulation that we have but

also making sure that we take the

0:30:280:30:34

wider context into account, which is

that there is an undermining of the

0:30:340:30:38

ability to have an objective and the

positive political discussion

0:30:380:30:43

because of the technology that's

available. And in that the proposals

0:30:430:30:48

that were set out over five, six

years ago, they would make these

0:30:480:30:54

challenges and worse rather than

better.

I welcome the statement

0:30:540:31:04

today. Does my right honourable

friend agree that as the press,

0:31:040:31:09

local press and national press has a

critical role in holding politicians

0:31:090:31:13

are powerful to account and state

regulation is highly undesirable in

0:31:130:31:19

a democracy.

I am concerned by some

statements that they seem to think

0:31:190:31:30

that state control of newspapers is

a good idea.

As a former journalist,

0:31:300:31:37

Secretary of State, I am utterly

dismayed by your statement today. I

0:31:370:31:40

value freedom of the press but does

the Secretary of State not see the

0:31:400:31:46

sad irony in talking about how they

press has helped the powerful to

0:31:460:31:51

account and then closing the door on

our opportunity to hold the powerful

0:31:510:31:57

voices of the press to account on

behalf of the victims. Victims who

0:31:570:32:03

were promised, promised, the sort of

legislation in section 40 that you

0:32:030:32:08

are now turning away from. And

frankly, the problems faced by local

0:32:080:32:13

newspapers and the newspaper

industry in general are nothing to

0:32:130:32:16

do with leather scent. They are to

do with modern technology. So

0:32:160:32:22

wilfully Secretary of State

reconsider thinking about the

0:32:220:32:24

victims of this and giving them a

chance to raise legitimate concerns

0:32:240:32:29

under section 40?

I agree with her

that there has been a big change

0:32:290:32:35

because of modern technology and I

want to make sure that we have

0:32:350:32:39

high-quality journalism in the

future and I want to make sure that

0:32:390:32:42

that can't be undermined by any

complainant having costs awarded to

0:32:420:32:47

the newspaper for any complaint.

That is no way to organise a system

0:32:470:32:54

of press regulation and instead what

we have got to do is make sure that

0:32:540:33:00

we have sustainable business models

for high quality journalists so just

0:33:000:33:03

as she had the opportunity to be a

journalist in the past, so we have

0:33:030:33:07

that opportunity for people in the

future.

I also welcome the Secretary

0:33:070:33:13

of State's statements and

particularly what he said about

0:33:130:33:16

section 40. I also agree what he

says about local press stop is aware

0:33:160:33:22

that publishing company have

recently bought a newspaper in my

0:33:220:33:28

constituency... I'm confident about

the future?

Well, I am absolutely

0:33:280:33:32

delighted to hear it. It is not the

national norm to hear that about the

0:33:320:33:37

local press but it does show that

there are sustainable business

0:33:370:33:41

models can be found. I'm absolutely

delighted about that. And I want to

0:33:410:33:45

do everything I can to make sure

that there are sustainable business

0:33:450:33:49

models for high-quality journalism

and that includes not adding extra

0:33:490:33:53

costs on to the local press.

Rebecca

Brooks Amanda Coulson came in front

0:33:530:34:00

of this House and admitted to

committing crimes by the bribing

0:34:000:34:05

police officers, such was the scale

of their arrogance and the feeling

0:34:050:34:08

that they were so powerful that they

could take on Parliament, that they

0:34:080:34:12

have the Metropolitan Police in

their pockets. That is the scale of

0:34:120:34:15

where we were at when the Minister

voted in favour of the legislation

0:34:150:34:19

that he is now trying to appeal. Has

he forgotten what happened to those

0:34:190:34:24

people? The duty of us in this House

is to give a voice to people who are

0:34:240:34:30

weak and vulnerable and we as

members of Parliament have a duty to

0:34:300:34:35

stand up for them and he has failed

to do that today.

Well, the

0:34:350:34:39

honourable member makes an extremely

powerful case for just how much they

0:34:390:34:44

Leveson Inquiry looked into

everything in this area and followed

0:34:440:34:50

by three police investigations. And

this is my central point, is that we

0:34:500:34:55

looked into these things as a

society. We have a comprehensive

0:34:550:34:59

Leveson Inquiry. We spent £48

million of taxpayer's money doing

0:34:590:35:04

so. As he said, there were criminal

convictions as a result and some

0:35:040:35:08

people were jailed and now my job

Secretary of State is to look

0:35:080:35:12

forward at what the country needs

for the future.

Cover Secretary of

0:35:120:35:16

State reassure me that the new

regulatory framework is working well

0:35:160:35:24

for victims and is much cheaper and

easier than those regulations that

0:35:240:35:29

were in force at the time of

Leveson. What I

what I can tell the

0:35:290:35:35

House is that we have they knew self

regulator. Secondly, that it has

0:35:350:35:41

introduced a low-cost arbitrator in

scheme. Thirdly that it requires

0:35:410:35:48

corrections including multiple

front-page collections but that we

0:35:480:35:49

would also like

0:35:490:37:00

Unfairly pilloried, could he have

explained to the house why he isn't

0:37:120:37:18

any forward the recommendation to

further the recommendation on

0:37:180:37:22

amended terms. Accuracy is part of

the code against which complaints

0:37:220:37:29

are considered and therefore

corrections and apologies can be

0:37:290:37:36

required by outdips regulated

newspaper so on the first point

0:37:360:37:41

which is very important, accuracy is

a court to the redress. It is

0:37:410:37:50

critical that we have a regulatory

system for the press but it is also

0:37:500:37:55

critical that it is is not a

regulatory system put in press by

0:37:550:38:00

politicians but rather one put into

place by the press themselves.

Many

0:38:000:38:08

years ago I was libelled by a

newspaper and took them to court and

0:38:080:38:12

won. That was one of the most

stressful times in my whole career

0:38:120:38:17

as a member of Parliament. Because

he suddenly wake up with the power

0:38:170:38:23

of the great newspaper with the

resources and an ability to mount

0:38:230:38:26

costs and bring pressure to you and

that was for a member of Parliament.

0:38:260:38:29

Just please think in your democracy

minister what this means for an

0:38:290:38:36

ordinary person, one of the

constituents taken on by someone

0:38:360:38:40

like the Daily Mail, life traduced,

family ruined and with so little

0:38:400:38:44

ability to stand up for themselves

and their family. Will he think

0:38:440:38:50

again on this because as far as I

can see if you read the Daily Mail

0:38:500:38:54

this week not much has happened.

Having firstly of course with libel

0:38:540:39:01

laws critically in this space in the

low cost scheme brought in by ipso

0:39:010:39:10

is designed precisely to address

this question and making sure that

0:39:100:39:12

works is important.

I agree with my

right honourable friend about

0:39:120:39:23

section 40. I don't agree with

personalised attacks on him but can

0:39:230:39:32

I bring him back to the second part

of my honourable friend for Harrow

0:39:320:39:37

East about the amended terms of

lives on. Sir Brian Levenson is

0:39:370:39:43

probably one of the most experienced

judges in criminal matters in this

0:39:430:39:46

country and identified in detail the

issue of criminal collusion between

0:39:460:39:51

corrupt police officers and corrupt

journalists. Anyone knows the

0:39:510:39:55

criminal justice system knows that

has not gone away and continues.

0:39:550:40:00

Absent of lives and to an revised

terms what will the government do to

0:40:000:40:04

expose and deal with it?

There have

of course been changes to policing,

0:40:040:40:10

not least the code of ethics and

national guidance for police

0:40:100:40:14

officers and the changes in the

policing and crime act and I

0:40:140:40:18

apologise to my right honourable

friend from Harrow that I didn't

0:40:180:40:21

address the second part of this

question. We are taking forward the

0:40:210:40:28

need to look at and insurer we have

high quality in journalism in this

0:40:280:40:40

country, including the press but

also online where a huge amount of

0:40:400:40:44

news is now consumed, and I am happy

to talk to him about what he thinks

0:40:440:40:50

needs to be done what I want to do

is make sure we address the bones as

0:40:500:40:57

I have said that we still face today

Jim Shelton. Our behalf of the

0:40:570:41:03

Democratic Unionist Party, we are

listening but we remain concerned

0:41:030:41:09

that the Northern Ireland newsrooms

and papers have seemingly got off

0:41:090:41:15

scot-free in the first enquiries the

Minister state how the landscape has

0:41:150:41:20

changed and so Brian initiated the

reporter where we think we are now

0:41:200:41:23

in light of our concerns? There has

been a change, not least in the

0:41:230:41:31

wider media, landscape, that we have

talked about but also in terms of

0:41:310:41:35

the redress available and self

regulation which is much tougher

0:41:350:41:40

with the introduction of ipso and

the ability for people to go through

0:41:400:41:45

arbitration, and so in terms of

addressing problems in the press

0:41:450:41:47

going forwards, we have the means of

redress now and I hope that will be

0:41:470:41:54

strengthened. Simon, while this

celebrate a free press, are we not

0:41:540:42:08

also right to demand a responsible

press as well? With freedom comes

0:42:080:42:14

responsibility. I my friend have

shared thoughts on whether it is

0:42:140:42:23

responsible to open in a democracy a

hand back racially tainted money. On

0:42:230:42:34

the second point he raises a very

important question that I am sure

0:42:340:42:37

the honourable gentleman opposite

will be thinking heavily about. He

0:42:370:42:41

has now admitted it was a mistake to

take this money. On the first point,

0:42:410:42:48

the press in online, take this on

responsibly. Though the secretary of

0:42:480:43:00

state agreed to meet the Dowler

family, Christopher Jefferies, and

0:43:000:43:05

the McCanns to explain to them while

this Conservative government is

0:43:050:43:11

breaking the promise given by

Conservative Prime Minister? As I

0:43:110:43:16

said I have already met some of the

victims and have already extended an

0:43:160:43:23

invitation to meet the victims and

to meet hacked off in order to

0:43:230:43:28

discuss what we're doing today and

in the future. Thank you Mr Speaker.

0:43:280:43:33

In my 15 years at the Telegraph I

have limited experience of the

0:43:330:43:40

present base commission but I insert

your that ipso is a profoundly

0:43:400:43:44

different regulator with barbed ETA

powers and more teeth and can I say

0:43:440:43:48

to him that section 40 would have a

chilling effect not just on our

0:43:480:43:52

local papers that on one national

papers as well and can I say finally

0:43:520:43:57

that's the ace use facing us today,

we have better freedom of press and

0:43:570:44:08

our accountability than the

alternative course of action that

0:44:080:44:10

the opposition would like to see.

My

noble friend speaks with great

0:44:100:44:15

authority on this because not only

was he a journalist but a journalist

0:44:150:44:19

of technology and so understands the

impact of journalism in a personal

0:44:190:44:26

way and I agree entirely with what

he has said. On the importance of

0:44:260:44:31

having press that Canberra port

without fear and favour it makes

0:44:310:44:37

sure the powerful are held to

account, it sounds glib but

0:44:370:44:43

accountability is critical to good

decision-making because it is only

0:44:430:44:47

when you can have full

accountability for decisions made

0:44:470:44:50

that you have your feet held to the

fire and he thinks really hard about

0:44:500:44:53

the courses of action available. Sir

Bryan believes the enquiry should

0:44:530:45:01

continue albeit in a different form.

The victims who were promised in

0:45:010:45:05

person by David Cameron believe the

enquiry would Ginny. Those victims

0:45:050:45:10

have been betrayed today. The

Secretary of State today like the

0:45:100:45:13

last one in the last time was that

the government overruled the wishes

0:45:130:45:18

of a gut government enquiry judge. I

am only looking at this enquiry and

0:45:180:45:25

what I had to do and what I have

done today is made a judgment about

0:45:250:45:28

what is in a natural interests of

the nation and I entirely understand

0:45:280:45:31

the concerns of the victims in this

pursuit.

As we have heard from the

0:45:310:45:40

other side of the house, there have

been significant changes and the

0:45:400:45:45

enquiry was a significant

undertaking and led to a year-long

0:45:450:45:51

look at all these issues and all the

concerns of the victims and then

0:45:510:45:57

there were three police

investigations and over 14th

0:45:570:46:00

investigations so this hasn't been

looked into but looked into to the

0:46:000:46:06

tune of £48 million and therefore I

had to take a decision today on what

0:46:060:46:11

is and the national interests for

the country and that is what I have

0:46:110:46:13

done. Thank you Mr Speaker. I

welcome the statement on section 40

0:46:130:46:20

today which would jeopardise

fantastic local papers in my

0:46:200:46:24

constituency. That the member for

Argyll and Bute, if the members

0:46:240:46:34

opposite 's proposal were taken

forward it would have serious

0:46:340:46:40

consequences.

The amendments coming

before the house in coming months

0:46:400:46:51

would have gone negative impacts on

the devolution settlement that alone

0:46:510:46:57

one to go into. I am happy with the

devolution settlement in the area

0:46:570:47:02

and I think it is a good settlement

and I look forward to try to ensure

0:47:020:47:05

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