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Thank you Mr Speaker. I will update
the House and the negotiation | 0:00:25 | 0:00:30 | |
between the United Kingdom and the
European Union in November | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
reflecting our actions since the
October Council. Both of the United | 0:00:33 | 0:00:38 | |
Kingdom and the European Union
recognise a new dynamic installed in | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
the talks since the Prime Minister
's Florence speech, at the October | 0:00:41 | 0:00:46 | |
European Council 27 states agreed to
start preparations for moving | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
negotiations on to trade and
official relationships we want to | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
see. And the conclusions also called
for work to continue on moving the | 0:00:52 | 0:00:59 | |
second phase of negotiation as as
soon as possible. It is inevitable | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
that discussions are now narrowing
to if you outstanding albeit | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
important issues that remain. Last
week our focus was on finding | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
solutions to those few remaining
issues. As we move forward towards | 0:01:11 | 0:01:16 | |
December counsel we have told the
European Union we are willing to | 0:01:16 | 0:01:23 | |
negotiate in a constructive way to
this end. Our teams are in | 0:01:23 | 0:01:30 | |
continuous contact even between
formal rounds. I turned to three key | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
ongoing areas of discussion and
outline the progress made last week | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
in each of these. We have made solid
progress in our ongoing discussions | 0:01:37 | 0:01:43 | |
on Northern Ireland and Ireland. Key
areas of achievement include | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
progress and technical discussions
on preserving north - south | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
co-operation, agreeing joint
principles on the travel area and | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
associated rights and shafting
further joint principles on how best | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
we preserve north - south
cooperation and the Belfast | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
agreement to help guide specific
solutions to unique circumstances in | 0:02:00 | 0:02:05 | |
Northern Ireland. Both sides also
remain firmly committed to avoiding | 0:02:05 | 0:02:10 | |
hardboard, a point we have remained
clear on throughout. We also remain | 0:02:10 | 0:02:15 | |
resolutely committed to upholding
the Belfast Good Friday Agreement in | 0:02:15 | 0:02:20 | |
all its parts and finding a solution
that works for the people of | 0:02:20 | 0:02:26 | |
Northern Ireland and Ireland, we
continue to hold frank discussions | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
of our European counterparts on
these issues. We have also made it | 0:02:30 | 0:02:35 | |
clear that why would respect the
desire to protect the legal order of | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
the single market and the customs
union that cannot come at a cost of | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
a constitutional or economic
integrity of the United Kingdom. We | 0:02:41 | 0:02:46 | |
cannot create a new border within
the United Kingdom. This is an area | 0:02:46 | 0:02:52 | |
where we believe we will only be
able to conclude talks finally in | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
the context of a future
relationship. Until such time as we | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
do so we need to approach the issues
which arise when a high degree of | 0:02:58 | 0:03:03 | |
political sensitivity, with
pragmatism and creativity. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
Discussions on these areas will
continue in the run-up to the | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
December counsel. We continue to
make good progress on citizens | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
rights, both sides working hard
towards the resolution of | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
outstanding issues. Last week in
response to requests for | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
reassurances by the European Union,
we published a detailed description | 0:03:21 | 0:03:26 | |
of our proposals for procedures to
European citizens seeking to settle | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
in the United Kingdom. As the paper
demonstrates the new procedures will | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
be as streamlined, straightforward
and low cost as possible. They will | 0:03:33 | 0:03:39 | |
be based on simple transparent
criteria, laid out in the withdrawal | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
agreement. While they remain
differences on the issue of family | 0:03:42 | 0:03:48 | |
reunion and the export of benefits
we will be clear on what reassurance | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
we can provide to families of
existing citizens even if they are | 0:03:52 | 0:03:58 | |
not living together. We believe this
paves the way in this area which was | 0:03:58 | 0:04:03 | |
acknowledged by the commission on
Friday. Daily Mail some areas where | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
we are still seeking further
movement from the European Union on | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
issues like voting rights,
recognition of qualifications and | 0:04:09 | 0:04:14 | |
onward movement for British citizens
currently living in EU 27. In these | 0:04:14 | 0:04:20 | |
three areas in the United Kingdom 's
offer goes beyond that of the EU. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
Finally the commission has not yet
matched the UK's offer in relation | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
to the right to stand and vote in
local elections. This is a core | 0:04:28 | 0:04:35 | |
citizens write normally enshrined in
European Union treaties. I have been | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
disappointed that the European Union
has not been willing to include | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
voting rights in the withdrawal
agreement so far. As a result we | 0:04:42 | 0:04:49 | |
will pursue this issue by laterally
with member states. We sought | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
further clarity on the agreement to
incorporate European Union citizens | 0:04:52 | 0:04:57 | |
rights into UK law which will mean
that European citizens can be sure | 0:04:57 | 0:05:05 | |
of clarity in the long term. We made
it clear over term we will take | 0:05:05 | 0:05:10 | |
account of the rulings of the
European Court of Justice in this | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
area to help ensure into perdition.
We had made clear that as we leave | 0:05:13 | 0:05:19 | |
the European Union is a priority for
the United Kingdom pressed to | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
preserve the sovereignty of our
courts and as such it will bring to | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
an end the direct jurisdiction of
the Libyan court of justice. Mr | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
Speaker, it's not my intention to
pre-empt the committee stage of the | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
European withdrawal bill but what I
say next several ovens. We need to | 0:05:33 | 0:05:38 | |
take extra steps to provide clarity
and certainty both in negotiations | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
and at home to implement any
agreement into UK law. I can now | 0:05:41 | 0:05:48 | |
confirm that once we have reached
agreement will bring forward a piece | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
of primary legislation to implement
that agreement, known as the | 0:05:51 | 0:05:56 | |
withdrawal agreement and
implementation bill. This confirms | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
that the major policy set out in the
withdrawal agreement will be | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
implemented into UK law by primary
legislation, not by secondary | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
legislation under the withdrawal
bill. This means parliament will | 0:06:06 | 0:06:12 | |
have time to scrutinise and vote on
the final deal with strike with the | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
EU. This agreement will only hold of
Parliament approves it. We expect | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
this bill to cover the contents of
the withdrawal agreement which | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
includes issues such as agreements
on citizens rights, any financial | 0:06:24 | 0:06:30 | |
agreement breast details on any
agreement reached by both sides, we | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
don't know the exact details of
these bills and are not likely to do | 0:06:34 | 0:06:39 | |
so until they are near completion.
These will be over and above the | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
undertaking we've already made which
will bring forward a motion on the | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
final deal as soon as possible after
it is agreed. We still intend expect | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
such a vote on the final deal to
happen before the European | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
Parliament votes on it. There can be
no doubt that Parliament will be | 0:06:53 | 0:06:59 | |
intimately involved at every stage.
I see laughter from the benches | 0:06:59 | 0:07:05 | |
opposite. This has been called for
by members on all sides of this | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
House. I would hope that we get
Labour Party support for it, for | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
once! Finally, on a financial
settlement. The Prime Minister 's | 0:07:13 | 0:07:18 | |
commitment made in her Florence
speech stands. Our European partners | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
will not pay more or receive less
and the remainder of the current | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
budget plan as a result of our
decision to leave. The UK will | 0:07:26 | 0:07:31 | |
honour its commitments made during
the period of our membership and | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
this would groove made substantial
technical process on the issues that | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
underpin these commitments. It has
been a low-key but important | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
technical set of negotiations
falling between councils. We need | 0:07:41 | 0:07:46 | |
there to pinpoint further
discussions that will take place. We | 0:07:46 | 0:07:52 | |
must also look ahead to discussions
on our future relationship. For | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
this, both parties need to build
confidence in the process and the | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
shared outcome. The UK will continue
to engage constructively as we have | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
done since the start. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:10 | |
Went to see flexibility, imagination
to make progress on both sides. I | 0:08:10 | 0:08:15 | |
commend this statement to the house.
Keir Starmer. Can I thank the | 0:08:15 | 0:08:23 | |
Secretary of State for advance
notice of his statement. It is | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
clearly a statement of two halves,
Mr Speaker. First, the usual | 0:08:26 | 0:08:33 | |
Groundhog Day report back on the
negotiations in Brussels. A round of | 0:08:33 | 0:08:39 | |
negotiations, a press conference at
the end that leaves us wondering | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
whether the parties were in the same
negotiations. Then both sides | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
briefing the press in the days
immediately afterwards. Then a | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
statement from the dispatch box that
assures no one. Underlying this, a | 0:08:50 | 0:08:55 | |
profound lack of progress. We want
the next statements to be different. | 0:08:55 | 0:09:01 | |
We want the Secretary of State to
return and inform the house real | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
progress has been made, a
breakthrough, even. Last time we | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
were promised acceleration. What is
now, and what's the plan if the | 0:09:09 | 0:09:15 | |
December deadline is missed? Mr
Speaker, I recognise some of the | 0:09:15 | 0:09:21 | |
difficulties. As the Secretary of
State knows, I have some sympathy | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
with the position on Northern
Ireland that he has set out. As we | 0:09:25 | 0:09:30 | |
see from the legislation before this
house today, the political situation | 0:09:30 | 0:09:35 | |
in Northern Ireland is fragile. The
peace process is too precious to be | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
put at risk by rushing a Brexit deal
that doesn't have the support of all | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
communities. There must be no return
to a hard border. Mr Speaker, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:49 | |
Northern Ireland should not be used
by either side in the negotiations | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
for political point scoring, and I
think that's a really important | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
point in this house. The second half
of the statement is not a report | 0:09:56 | 0:10:01 | |
back at all. It's a recognition by
the government that is about to lose | 0:10:01 | 0:10:07 | |
a series of votes on the withdrawal
bill. Labour has repeatedly argued, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:14 | |
since the bill was first published
in July, that he Article 50 deal | 0:10:14 | 0:10:19 | |
required primary legislation,
including a vote of this house. A | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
point that was made forcefully at
second reading. Now, on the eve of | 0:10:22 | 0:10:30 | |
crucial amendments, we have this
statement under the cloak of a | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
report back from Brussels. I don't
think that fool is anyone. The devil | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
will no doubt be in the detail. Can
the secretary of state is now | 0:10:37 | 0:10:44 | |
confirmed the government accepts the
Labour argument that clause nine | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
should be struck from the withdrawal
bill altogether? And then there is | 0:10:47 | 0:10:53 | |
the question of transitional
arrangement. It is blindingly | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
obvious to anyone following these
negotiations that a final deal with | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
the EU, including a trade agreement,
will not be complete by March of | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
2019. Transitional agreements on the
same terms just now are in the | 0:11:04 | 0:11:11 | |
public interest. It's what
businesses, communities and Labour | 0:11:11 | 0:11:19 | |
have been calling for for many
months. Can he Save The Don Mint | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
will not stand in the way of
sensible transitional arrangements | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
on the same basic terms we have now
with the EU. -- can he say the | 0:11:26 | 0:11:33 | |
government will not. Can the
Secretary of State confirm to this | 0:11:33 | 0:11:41 | |
house that this house will get a
vote in the event that there is no | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
deal question your? | 0:11:44 | 0:11:49 | |
vote in the event that there is no
deal question These questions have | 0:11:49 | 0:11:50 | |
been pressing for months. This
last-minute attempt to climb down | 0:11:50 | 0:11:55 | |
brings it into sharp focus and we
are entitled to clear answers. Yet | 0:11:55 | 0:12:02 | |
more carping opposite from the Right
honourable gentleman. He complains | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
that negotiations are not making as
much progress as he would like. Yet | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
he allowed his Labour members in the
European Parliament to vote against | 0:12:09 | 0:12:15 | |
progress this time around. The
question he needs to ask himself is | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
what would he be prepared to
sacrifice to buy the goodwill of the | 0:12:18 | 0:12:25 | |
European Commission? We are standing
up to allow European citizens to | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
move around Europe, use
qualifications and vote in municipal | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
elections. Is he proposing we let
them down the interest to rush | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
ahead. We are standing of British
taxpayers, not wasting their money, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
with the clear position we will beat
our financial commitments, only | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
knowingly know more about future
relations. Would he sell them out? | 0:12:41 | 0:12:46 | |
We are using Brexit to restore the
sovereignty of the British courts. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
Would he let that go as well, yes he
would, because he would give the ECJ | 0:12:49 | 0:12:55 | |
the right to dictate our laws in
perpetuity. Let me come back to his | 0:12:55 | 0:13:01 | |
description. He says the second half
does not arise from the negotiation. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:07 | |
Yes it does, because actually one of
the reasons for this bill that I | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
have announced today is providing to
European citizens a primary piece of | 0:13:11 | 0:13:17 | |
legislation which will put into
British law the withdrawal agreement | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
in total. It is as near as we can
come to direct effect. It comes | 0:13:21 | 0:13:27 | |
directly out of the negotiation
today. I hope next time I come to | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
report at this as we'll get more
support the Labour Party. Kenneth | 0:13:30 | 0:13:37 | |
Clarke. We will be debating tomorrow
Eilidh rather helpful new course, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:44 | |
first announced in the Telegraph,
which announces the processes. Can I | 0:13:44 | 0:13:53 | |
get the government's intentions on
the final processes on the role of | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
Parliament? Can he give me
reassurance that the parliament will | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
have a legally binding and
meaningful vote in which it will | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
approve or disapprove of any final
agreement or lack of agreement | 0:14:05 | 0:14:12 | |
before we leave the European Union?
And that there will be time, in | 0:14:12 | 0:14:18 | |
whatever circumstances, for the
necessary legislation to be | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
introduced and debated to pass to
implement in law smoothly and | 0:14:20 | 0:14:27 | |
properly whatever it is Parliament
has approved once the government has | 0:14:27 | 0:14:32 | |
made its proposals? I thank my right
honourable friend for the question. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:38 | |
First of all, yes we will have a
meaningful vote. It has been said | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
from this dispatch box and in a bar
of times. What I have said today as | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
we will add to that, over and above
the meaningful vote on the outcome | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
of the bill, on the deal, we will
have legislation which puts it into | 0:14:49 | 0:14:55 | |
effect. In other words, the house
will be able to go through it line | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
by line and agree it line by line.
Beta grad. I am grateful to the | 0:14:58 | 0:15:07 | |
Secretary of State for advance sight
of the statement. -- Peter Grant. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
Turning to Northern Ireland, doesn't
the Secretary of State appreciate is | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
becoming increasingly clear that the
only sensible solution for Northern | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
Ireland is for it to remain in a
customs union. If that means the | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
rest of us remain in the customs
union as well, that's what we must | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
do. As he has said, there can't be a
border between the two parts of | 0:15:24 | 0:15:29 | |
Ireland, there can't be a border
between Northern Ireland and the | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
mainland UK, and they can't be a
border between the Republic of | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
Ireland and the European Union. They
cannot be a customs border anywhere | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
between the UK and the European
mainland without breaching | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
international treaties. On citizens
rights, I welcome the update on | 0:15:43 | 0:15:48 | |
progress. Does he not accept we are
now well past the time when our | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
constituents are entitled to
absolute legal guarantees and | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
progress reports are not enough.
People are still leaving businesses | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
the health service, social care
services, because they do not have | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
confidence there will be a deal in
time for them to make a future here. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:09 | |
Can I turn next to the update we
have had a financial settlement. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
Would it be cynical to suggest, that
this will become a lot simpler when | 0:16:13 | 0:16:18 | |
the Chancellor has got his budget
out of the way? Can the Secretary of | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
State tell us what discussions he
has had with the Chancellor on what | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
might need to be in the budget next
week in order to pave the way for | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
financial settlement in the weeks to
come? Or is it the case that there | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
is no financial settlement in the
budget because the government they | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
know they can't get the budget
passed their own backbenchers if | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
there is admission of continuity to
the European Union in that. The | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
announcement of a new piece of
legislation, first of all can I give | 0:16:43 | 0:16:49 | |
credit that the Secretary of State
has done the right thing by | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
announcing this to the house, and
some of his Cabinet colleagues could | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
learn from his example. Can we get
more clarity on what the bill is | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
about. I know he can't give
detailed, but will it still is | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
simply be a case of take it or leave
it? Their Deal or no Deal? Will the | 0:17:03 | 0:17:09 | |
house get an opportunity to amend
that bill, as the house must have | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
the opportunity to amend any bill,
and therefore will the house have | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
the opportunity to attempt to amend
the agreement? Given the Prime | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
Minister is now on the eighth
disgruntled Conservatives away from | 0:17:19 | 0:17:24 | |
facing a vote of no-confidence, why
should anyone else have confidence | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
in this government to extricate us
from the mess have created, now they | 0:17:28 | 0:17:34 | |
are losing the confidence of their
own backbenchers? Firstly on the | 0:17:34 | 0:17:41 | |
question of Northern Ireland, what I
have said in terms, which I have | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
said here, is that there will be no
internal border within the United | 0:17:45 | 0:17:51 | |
Kingdom. That is an absolute
fundamental, because, apart from | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
anything else, the Good Friday,
Belfast agreement, requires us to | 0:17:55 | 0:18:01 | |
run the government on behalf of all
communities. At least one community | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
in Northern Ireland would not accept
a border in the Irish Sea. As for | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
the border between Northern Ireland
and Ireland, everybody has accepted | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
there must be no return to a hard
border. Some of that is dealt with | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
by the continuation of the Common
travel area, which has been around | 0:18:17 | 0:18:22 | |
since 1923. In that respect, it's
not new. In terms of the customs | 0:18:22 | 0:18:28 | |
border, there is already a
difference between Levy and tax | 0:18:28 | 0:18:33 | |
rates and excise rates north and
south of the border, which we manage | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
without a hard border, which we will
continue to do. It ends up budget, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
he is optimistic if he thinks the
Chancellor gives us any more of an | 0:18:41 | 0:18:47 | |
advance warning a recap from his
budget. I have discussed with him | 0:18:47 | 0:18:52 | |
the financial aspects of our
relationship with the European Union | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
at many meetings. As for new
legislation, I don't think it's in | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
the gift of the government to put
out a piece of primary legislation | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
before the house that is incapable
of amendment. It's the nature of | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
primary legislation, it has always
been carried on Amendment. We'll | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
have the practical limitations of
having a deal that we have signed | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
and there might be applications for
that, but the whole thing will be | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
put in front of the house. Mr Iain
Duncan Smith. May I congratulate my | 0:19:16 | 0:19:23 | |
right honourable friend for being
very clear in his statement that | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
come March 29 2019, as we leave the
European Union, the Court of Justice | 0:19:26 | 0:19:33 | |
itself will no longer have direct
authority here in the United | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
Kingdom, thus dispelling the game is
played out by the opposition this | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
morning. May I take my honourable
friend back to the statement he has | 0:19:40 | 0:19:48 | |
made with regards to the bill and
the motion. As I understand it, if | 0:19:48 | 0:19:54 | |
we had a motion that was voted on,
but was not passed, then that would | 0:19:54 | 0:20:00 | |
negate the idea of a bill that would
then be amended. And if there was a | 0:20:00 | 0:20:06 | |
bill, and it could be amended, as we
were always told through | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
negotiations with Maastricht and
beyond, you cannot accept an | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
amendment at the end of the day
because the agreement has already | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
been made and thus you would be
altering the agreement. This is not | 0:20:15 | 0:20:21 | |
that -- does that not leaders into
the situation where you would have a | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
bill that would change the
agreement, but the other side is not | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
wish to make those changes? With
respect to the first half of his | 0:20:26 | 0:20:32 | |
question, if the motion, the
original motion that is but does not | 0:20:32 | 0:20:37 | |
pass, the deal falls in total. He is
right about the second part. He will | 0:20:37 | 0:20:43 | |
render the Maastricht Bill, as I
remember there was quite a lot of | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
amendments and quite a lot of
voting. The house can express its | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
view and did so in light of the
consequences. Hilary Benn I welcome | 0:20:49 | 0:20:56 | |
the Secretary of State's
announcement that there will be | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
primary legislation to implement the
EU withdrawal agreement. I would say | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
it's another recognition of the
government having to listen to the | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
House of Commons. The question I
want to ask is about Northern | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
Ireland. It is becoming increasingly
clear that there is a contradiction | 0:21:09 | 0:21:15 | |
between the government but I clearly
stated desire that there should be | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
no return to a hard border and no
customs border on the one hand, and | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
its determination to leave the
customs union. Since the proposal it | 0:21:21 | 0:21:30 | |
has put forward proposals to try to
square that circle. It doesn't | 0:21:30 | 0:21:41 | |
persuade the governance of the
Republic of Ireland that a hard | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
border can be achieved. What does
the government propose to do about | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
one of its central objectives? I
will thank him for his opening | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
comments. At the time we published
the white Paper on what was then the | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
Great Repeal Bill, now the
withdrawal bill, I said at the time | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
that we would listen to the House of
Commons. I said to the front bench | 0:21:58 | 0:22:03 | |
opposite that if there were any
rights then we would endeavour to | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
replace them and any other changes
similarly. In terms of Northern | 0:22:07 | 0:22:13 | |
Ireland, the second stanza that we
face at the moment is that there are | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
a range of permutations and
possibilities depending on what the | 0:22:17 | 0:22:25 | |
outcome is and if the government
achieves is primary policy of having | 0:22:25 | 0:22:30 | |
a tariff free, barrier free free
trade agreement than a customs | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
agreement following on from that
will be a very light touch customs | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
agreement, in which case it will be
relatively straightforward to | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
maintain a relatively invisible
border. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:41 | |
If that is not the case I suspect
the alternatives will be expensive | 0:22:46 | 0:22:52 | |
but not impossible. Mr Owen
Paterson. Thank you Mr Speaker. Of | 0:22:52 | 0:22:58 | |
the House of Commons voted in the
new withdrawal bill will we still | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
leave on March 29, 2019 but without
an agreement? Yes. Liverpool what | 0:23:01 | 0:23:09 | |
was that? The Secretary of State
said yes. Kate Hoey. Mr Speaker may | 0:23:09 | 0:23:22 | |
I welcome the Secretary of State is
very firm rebuttal of the ridiculous | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
idea that Northern Ireland will be
taken out of the rest of the United | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
Kingdom and stay in the customs
union. Can I also say that does he | 0:23:29 | 0:23:34 | |
recognise that the Northern Ireland
affairs committee met with the | 0:23:34 | 0:23:40 | |
customs in certain to not in the EU
and the one thing that he said over | 0:23:40 | 0:23:45 | |
again was that that there was
nothing that could not make this | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
work if there was not full
cooperation between all sides. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:53 | |
Northern Ireland want no hard
border, no customs union, no EU, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
this can happen. The honourable lady
is exactly right, this is too | 0:23:57 | 0:24:04 | |
across-the-board whether talking
about free trade agreement, the past | 0:24:04 | 0:24:11 | |
commissioner for trade, the same is
true in this case, I'm sure the | 0:24:11 | 0:24:26 | |
political will is there north and
south of the border. With the | 0:24:26 | 0:24:33 | |
Secretary of State confirm that any
such withdrawal bill would take | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
place after the withdrawal bill
itself has been enacted after March | 0:24:35 | 0:24:44 | |
29. I don't confirm that, this would
depend on where the withdrawal | 0:24:44 | 0:24:54 | |
treaty is negotiated. And that is
the intention of the union, we try | 0:24:54 | 0:25:00 | |
to negotiate that by October of next
year. So the ideal outcome will be, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:09 | |
it will be before the conclusion.
Yvette Cooper. Thank you Mr Speaker. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:16 | |
Can I welcome the government coming
forward with a separate bill for the | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
withdrawal agreement, it is
something I have made amendments for | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
and the Member for Beaconsfield has
also made amendments. Can you | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
clarify the timing on this. He just
said it was only in an ideal world | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
that this withdrawal agreement Bill
would come before Brexit date. May I | 0:25:31 | 0:25:40 | |
say it will be a real problem of the
government thinks they can simply | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
use clause nine to provisionally
implement the withdrawal agreement | 0:25:43 | 0:25:49 | |
through secondary legislation while
not having the withdrawal agreement | 0:25:49 | 0:25:55 | |
Bill until after Brexit date. Can he
clarify, will he confirm that the | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
government will bring the withdrawal
agreement Bill before the House, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:04 | |
before Brexit today and not after.
The right honourable lady corrects | 0:26:04 | 0:26:13 | |
me, the right word is our principal
policy aims. That is what we are | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
trying to do. But I cannot guarantee
is that if the union doesn't come to | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
a conclusion in negotiations we
cannot bring the withdrawal bill in | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
front of the House before we have a
withdrawal agreement. That is the | 0:26:25 | 0:26:30 | |
sequence I point you to. Anna
Soubry. Thank you Mr Speaker. All | 0:26:30 | 0:26:37 | |
very interesting because the
government has now decided to bring | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
forward an amendment to put into law
the Brexit leaving date, even though | 0:26:39 | 0:26:45 | |
it hasn't been to the Cabinet and
has not been subject to the usual | 0:26:45 | 0:26:51 | |
right around. Could my honourable
friend the Secretary of State help? | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
He's told us about this new piece of
legislation that will come forward | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
which we can all vote on and amend
and so forth in the normal way. That | 0:26:58 | 0:27:04 | |
is only if there is an agreement.
Can he confirm that in the event of | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
no agreement, no deal, this place
will have no say that any say from | 0:27:08 | 0:27:27 | |
this problem and which were to
detect that control. What I can say | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
is if we don't have a withdrawal
agreement we can't have a withdrawal | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
agreement Bill. Full stop. Hasn't he
just given the game away on this | 0:27:34 | 0:27:44 | |
sham offer. Totally worthless to
Parliament, trying to buy of people | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
by saying, we will give you an act
to shape things when in fact this is | 0:27:48 | 0:27:53 | |
a post-hawk, after the horse has
bolted bees of legislation. We might | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
have left the European Union, the
treaty and the deal will been down | 0:27:57 | 0:28:02 | |
and Parliament could do nothing at
all to shape the nature of that | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
withdrawal agreement. He has to do
much better than this. Parliament | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
must have a say on that withdrawal
agreement before we are thrown over | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
the cliff edge. Let repeated to him
the probable sequence of events. If | 0:28:13 | 0:28:22 | |
Michel Barnier hits its target and
the hit man will conclude the | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
withdrawal agreement and associated
agreements in the latter part of the | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
water. That's his stated aim. If we
do, the first withdrawal and treaty | 0:28:28 | 0:28:37 | |
vote will come to the House, and
then as as soon as possible after | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
the withdrawal agreement Bill will
come before the house. That will | 0:28:41 | 0:28:47 | |
leave plenty of time and may be
amended at the time. Sir Edward | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
Lidl. Liverpool imagine the outrage
in Europe if the European Union | 0:28:51 | 0:28:57 | |
decided to try to detach Catalonia
from Spain. But what is the European | 0:28:57 | 0:29:02 | |
Union today, they are saying they
were detach Northern Ireland from | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
the single market and customs union
of the United Kingdom. The | 0:29:05 | 0:29:11 | |
Conservative Party is nothing if not
the Unionist party. There will be no | 0:29:11 | 0:29:18 | |
amendment, no appeasement on keeping
Northern Ireland in the single | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
market and of the United Kingdom. I
say to my honourable friend and | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
neighbour, I think I made that
plane. We won't have any borders, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:31 | |
any new borders within the United
Kingdom. Ben Bradshaw. Is he | 0:29:31 | 0:29:40 | |
accepting the amendment in the name
of the Member for Beaconsfield or | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
asking the House to take it on
assurance from the dispatch box? I'm | 0:29:44 | 0:29:50 | |
stating what is government policy
from the dispatch box. Mr Dominic | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
Greene. Thank you Mr Speaker. I
greatly welcome Mike right | 0:29:54 | 0:30:00 | |
honourable friend in respect of
there being a for us to implement | 0:30:00 | 0:30:07 | |
the final deal. Unless my amendment
was not be accepted, man becomes | 0:30:07 | 0:30:17 | |
redundant. How can it be acceptable
that we implement Brexit by means of | 0:30:17 | 0:30:28 | |
clause nine after the date of our
departure? My anxieties are | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
heightened on this by the amendment
tabled by the government on Friday. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
Surely the answer is, if we run out
of time none of these suggestions | 0:30:35 | 0:30:42 | |
put forward state that the time
should be extended after Article 50 | 0:30:42 | 0:30:48 | |
so that all parties are able to deal
with that. That is the mechanism | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
that is provided and surely that is
the mechanism that the House and the | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
government should be following. I
thank my right honourable friend for | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
his welcome of the bill. But I say
to him that Article 50, the | 0:31:00 | 0:31:06 | |
extension of Article 50 can only be
done by unanimity. Alison McGovern. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:15 | |
Thank you, Mr Speaker. But this
doesn't make any sense. The | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
Secretary of State has said on any
number of occasions that a deal | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
could be done at the last moment. So
for the reasons explained can he be | 0:31:22 | 0:31:27 | |
clear that he can't have that
position, a deal done that at the | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
last moment, and support this new
clause from the government, nailing | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
down the specific date? If I may say
so, any number of occasions, there | 0:31:34 | 0:31:44 | |
was one occasion in front of the
committee when I was asked that very | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
question, what could happen to the
negotiation in extremis. Since I was | 0:31:47 | 0:31:52 | |
pointing to previous examples, it's
hardly a statement of either intent | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
or expectation. As for the other
question, Michel Barnier hopes to | 0:31:55 | 0:32:11 | |
had October, I hope that amendment
for the bill, is that reflects and | 0:32:11 | 0:32:23 | |
European law tells you. Is there any
prospect of Sir James Dyson being | 0:32:23 | 0:32:34 | |
invited to join our team of
negotiators? | 0:32:34 | 0:32:45 | |
Well, I have spoken to Sir James
Dyson. I don't necessarily agree | 0:32:47 | 0:32:55 | |
with his tactical advice but he is a
brilliant exponent of what a great | 0:32:55 | 0:33:00 | |
success this country can be when its
engineers get stuck into the job. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:12 | |
Thank you Mr Speaker., Secretary of
State clarify what government | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
thinking is around an adjudication
court as mentioned this morning on | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
Radio 4 by the Honourable member of
the Chingford and Woodford Green. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:24 | |
Adjudication. I am afraid... I'm
sure it was a brilliant exposition | 0:33:24 | 0:33:34 | |
of did not hear it. He's got the
confirmation from the Right | 0:33:34 | 0:33:44 | |
Honourable gentleman that it was
very good. I'm sure that should | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
satisfy the Secretary of State. Mr
Bernard Jenkin. Could invite my | 0:33:48 | 0:33:53 | |
right honourable friend to remind
this House that 498 members voted | 0:33:53 | 0:33:58 | |
for the withdrawal bill. In the full
knowledge that two years after | 0:33:58 | 0:34:04 | |
notification had been served we
would leave the European Union. They | 0:34:04 | 0:34:10 | |
seemed to be backtracking on their
promises to the British people. My | 0:34:10 | 0:34:21 | |
honourable friend mixes point
clearly. March 29 is the departure | 0:34:21 | 0:34:28 | |
date and this has been known ever
since the data is passed. Mr Speaker | 0:34:28 | 0:34:33 | |
I welcome the wretched of the
Secretary of State today in the face | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
of the impending votes on the
withdrawal bill. But why is he | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
intent on holding a gun to the head
of this House by presenting us with | 0:34:39 | 0:34:45 | |
a choice only between the deal he
negotiates and no deal at all? | 0:34:45 | 0:34:50 | |
Surely a meaningful vote and
meaningful legislation of asking the | 0:34:50 | 0:35:00 | |
government to go back and amend the
deal, including if necessary, as the | 0:35:00 | 0:35:06 | |
Honourable member for Beaconsfield
has said, extending the timetable if | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
that is required. What I will say is
that the decision put before the | 0:35:09 | 0:35:20 | |
house was put there by 17.5 million
voters. Sir Oliver Letwin. Come my | 0:35:20 | 0:35:26 | |
right honourable friend assure those
of us who increasingly believe that | 0:35:26 | 0:35:31 | |
the strongest chance of ever
achieving a deal is being able to | 0:35:31 | 0:35:36 | |
demonstrate our EU counterparts that
we can manage exit without a deal | 0:35:36 | 0:35:40 | |
that he will shortly publish a
comprehensive and convincing account | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
of how this country will manage
affairs in the absence of any deal | 0:35:43 | 0:35:48 | |
whatsoever. What I have said to the
House many times is that what my | 0:35:48 | 0:35:55 | |
right honourable friend alludes to
is not the primary policy of this | 0:35:55 | 0:36:04 | |
government, the primary policy is to
achieve a free-trade deal. But he is | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
right, if this did not happen we
would be able to make a good future | 0:36:08 | 0:36:13 | |
for Britain without that. It is not
the best feature, though, not the | 0:36:13 | 0:36:18 | |
best choice in front of us. Joanna
Cherry. Thank you Mr Speaker. In | 0:36:18 | 0:36:25 | |
Brussels last week see the EU
officials were clear with members of | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
the select committee that
transitional deal under Article 50 | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
means remaining in the singles
market, in the customs union and | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
remaining subject to the
jurisdiction of the Court of | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
Justice. Is it not time that the
Secretary of State explained that to | 0:36:38 | 0:36:43 | |
his backbenchers so that members
such as the Right Honourable member | 0:36:43 | 0:36:48 | |
for Chingford and weird group can
avoid embarrassing themselves in | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
legal matters on the radio, and will
he also clarify that parts of the | 0:36:51 | 0:36:57 | |
bill such as clause six will have to
go if there is to be a transitional | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
deal. Whatever else the honourable
lady is she makes the mistake that | 0:37:01 | 0:37:11 | |
many, I'm afraid, Metropolitan and
media commentators make which is to | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
assume that everything they told in
Brussels is the whole truth and | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
nothing but the truth! Kroos
citizens wait. If you are trying to | 0:37:17 | 0:37:23 | |
sell me a card are assured you that
I was determined not to leave the | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
showroom without buying one, does he
imagine that that would strengthen | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
my negotiating hand? He is right, it
is foolish proposition only enjoyed | 0:37:30 | 0:37:39 | |
the other side the House. Mr Stephen
Kinnock. Thank you Mr Speaker, I'm | 0:37:39 | 0:37:46 | |
sure the Secretary of State will
join me in congratulating his friend | 0:37:46 | 0:37:51 | |
the Foreign Secretary and the
secretary of state for Defra for the | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
rekindling of their bromance. Do
they understand that the EU has | 0:37:54 | 0:38:02 | |
stated clearly that a transitional
deal can happen only on the basis of | 0:38:02 | 0:38:08 | |
an existing regulatory budgetary
supervisory judiciary enforcement of | 0:38:08 | 0:38:13 | |
structures. Does he believe that
there on his benches understand that | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
this will be the basis of the
transitional arrangement? Firstly | 0:38:17 | 0:38:23 | |
let me say to him a milder version
of what I said to us, Scottish | 0:38:23 | 0:38:28 | |
nationalist colleague, it should not
take just what the European | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
Parliament says is the end of the
exercise but he is right in one | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
respect, and that is that the
transitional arrangement will look | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
like what we have now but it will
not be membership and it will allow | 0:38:38 | 0:38:42 | |
us freedoms that we don't have now
and that is critical to remember. Mr | 0:38:42 | 0:38:47 | |
Philip Davies. We've always known
that the EU is desperate to UK money | 0:38:47 | 0:38:52 | |
but it seems it is now so strapped
for cash it has resorted to bid | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
diplomacy vision of aggressive
begging of the last few days. Will | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
my right honourable friend assure
the House that the government will | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
not be intimidated by the threats
and blackmail of the European | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
negotiating team because the
government will not be forgiven in a | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
time of austerity if more is paid
then is legally due from leaving the | 0:39:10 | 0:39:16 | |
EU, would he agree with me on that
basis that you don't need to pay £10 | 0:39:16 | 0:39:21 | |
billion a year net for a £90 billion
trade deficit, you can have one of | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
those nothing. On his last point, it
is a point I made to one member | 0:39:24 | 0:39:33 | |
state only last week! Tom brake. Mr
Speaker, when I met residents in | 0:39:33 | 0:39:44 | |
South Armagh recently who are badly
affected during the troubles, they | 0:39:44 | 0:39:51 | |
had no solution to the question of
the Northern Ireland border and nor | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
has anyone else I've met since.
Secretary of State set out how we | 0:39:54 | 0:40:01 | |
can leave the customs union and for
there to be a no control border | 0:40:01 | 0:40:08 | |
between Northern Ireland. There's a
whole range of options to him | 0:40:08 | 0:40:17 | |
including listed trusted schemes,
exemptions for small businesses, | 0:40:17 | 0:40:24 | |
which we talked about at length. He
just had to read them. Mr Speaker | 0:40:24 | 0:40:31 | |
May I congratulate the Secretary of
State on the progress made in the | 0:40:31 | 0:40:35 | |
last couple of weeks, can I
emphasise how important it is that | 0:40:35 | 0:40:39 | |
we move onto the next stage in
December. Businesses are concerned | 0:40:39 | 0:40:44 | |
that we have that, moving on within
the next two or three weeks. Could | 0:40:44 | 0:40:51 | |
he reassure us on that? Of course,
that is what we are aiming to do. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:56 | |
One point has become very clear in
the negotiation, some of the matters | 0:40:56 | 0:41:01 | |
like the border between Ireland and
Northern Ireland or soluble once we | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
get onto the next stage but cannot
be advanced as we stand now. So for | 0:41:05 | 0:41:10 | |
many reasons both economic and
political we want to make that | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
advance as soon as possible. Stephen
Timms. Mr Speaker May I ask about | 0:41:14 | 0:41:20 | |
arrangements during the two you're
also implementation period after | 0:41:20 | 0:41:25 | |
March 2019, when the Prime Minister
has already told us that the writ of | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
the European Court of Justice will
still run. He told the select | 0:41:29 | 0:41:33 | |
committee he helped from a positive
Council conclusion in December, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:39 | |
hopefully this will agree that 2018,
Michel Barnier said the same to the | 0:41:39 | 0:41:44 | |
select committee last week. Does
that not put huge pressure on | 0:41:44 | 0:41:49 | |
everyone involved to achieve a
successful outcome to the December | 0:41:49 | 0:41:54 | |
council? I hope so, when he says
everybody involved and indeed one of | 0:41:54 | 0:41:59 | |
the major successes of the October
counsel was that they told the | 0:41:59 | 0:42:04 | |
commission team, so called task
force 50, to prepare for that, | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
because it is moderately complex, a
policy that has to be put in place, | 0:42:08 | 0:42:12 | |
there are a number of mildly
contentious areas of it, and | 0:42:12 | 0:42:17 | |
therefore, we need to be ready for
it. They are under way on that and | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
if we get the decision in December
we will deliver, I hope, on the | 0:42:21 | 0:42:26 | |
select committee. Subtitles will
resume at 11pm with Monday in | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
Parliament. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 |