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Questions to the Secretary of State

for Wales.

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Thank you, Mr Speaker. Before

answering question one I'd like to

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welcome the Shadow Secretary of

State back to her position. With

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permission I would answer questions

one and 12 together. Why hold

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regular discussions with the

Secretary of State about the exit

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from the European Union, including

the EU withdrawal bill. My right

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honourable friend, the first

secretary and I, met local leaders

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in Wales to discuss issues affecting

them as we leave the European Union.

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During the referendum, voters were

assured by the leave campaign that

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Wales would not be 1p worse off as a

result of leaving the EU. Would the

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Secretary of State assure the house

that the benefits of the EU

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structural investment in Wales will

continue after March 2000 19.

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We've already committed to honouring

those commitments up until the time

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we leave the European Union. --

March 20 19. We want to seek an

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obliteration period which will

involve those commitments, as well.

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We have a manifesto commitment to

deliver on the UK Shared Prosperity

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Fund and I will make sure that Wales

has its fair share.

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The way this UK imperialist

Government has precluded the Welsh

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Government from Brexit negotiations

is putting 20 years of devolution at

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risk. This Welsh Government has

always played an integral part in EU

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negotiations. So will the Secretary

of State continue this

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well-established practice and avoid

a constitutional crisis by ensuring

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the Welsh Government is directly

involved in both Brexit and trade

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negotiations.

I don't recognise the tone or the

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content of the Honourable Lady's

points. We need to recognise that

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the EU withdrawal bill is largely a

technical piece of legislation. But

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we are in deep engagement with the

devolved administrations,

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particularly the Welsh Government.

Only a week ago the first Secretary

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of State and I met the First

Minister. Yesterday we had a joint

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ministerial committee. A further

warm ongoing relationship continues.

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It's my interest and the Welsh

interest.

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Can my friends confirm the good news

today about jobs and the good

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performance of the economy and

therefore look forward to the

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strength Wales will be able to gain

when the UK leaves the European

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Union and could reach out into the

entire world in terms of improvement

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in economy?

I'm grateful to my honourable friend

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for his question. He rightly points

out that leaving the EU provides new

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opportunities. We want a

frictionless trading operation with

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TEU. To negotiate with other nations

around the world. -- trading

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operation with the EU. Wells has

attracted some of the most

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remarkable investment projects and

are continuing to do so on that

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basis. -- Wales has.

My right honourable friend have the

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opportunity to remind Welsh

ministers and members opposite that

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at the referendum over 850,000

people in Wales voted to leave the

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EU on a turnout of over 10%. The

most important thing is to respect

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the outcome and look forward to

governing the future.

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I'm grateful to my right honourable

friend the raising that point. He

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does recognise that Wales voted to

leave the European Union as the UK

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voted to leave the European Union.

And we have an obligation to respond

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properly to that referendum. Whilst

also respecting the constitutional

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settlement. The EU withdrawal bill

does that but we are working closely

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with the Welsh Government to make

sure it meets the needs of Wales.

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The Secretary of State has already

been quizzed on the effect of the

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loss of European structural funds on

the Welsh economy. Can I

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specifically asking if the

Government's flagship drug deals

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will have a similar or greater level

of funding?

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I don't need to take any lectures on

funding from the party opposite.

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This was the party that refused to

reorganise the Barnett Formula after

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13 years in Government. We had the

new fiscal framework signed this

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time last year which gives an

enhancement to the Welsh settlement.

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The growth news, in addition to the

Barnett settlement, but remind

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members that more than £4 billion of

European structural funds has been

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spent. But in the areas where the

money was spent the most they voted

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in the greatest numbers to leave, so

that is hardly a success of their

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Welsh Government policy.

We remain confident we will meet a

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term of agreements which will be in

interest to everyone. And remain

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committed to a trade policy that

flags us as an Alta facing nation at

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the forefront of global trade. --

out of facing nation.

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What reassurances can the Minister

give constituents near Welshpool

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that their exports to Germany will

not be hit by a 40% tariff, and

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their exports would be affected by

large imports from New Zealand which

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operate to lower welfare standards

than the UK?

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The same assurances we have given to

Welsh farmers across Wales. This

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Government is working to have trade

agreements with the EU but we also

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see the opportunities to export

Welsh lamb to other parts of the

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world. We have had success exporting

to the Middle East, for example.

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This Government is committed to

expanding opportunities throughout

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the globe and keeping our current

commitments.

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Is not also important to look at the

opportunities for Wales from imports

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on lower tariffs on food and

clothes, which could particularly

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benefit the well off.

I thank my honourable friend for his

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question. Exports from Wales have

increased dramatically by 18%. It's

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interesting to know that the 16%

increase in imports... Welsh

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manufacturers and Welsh businesses

are taking the opportunity to export

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to all parts of the globe.

Last Friday's progress report on

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negotiations has been described by

the Brexit secretary as a mere

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statement of intent. Is that the

position of the Government?

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It is clear, we had a breakthrough

last Friday which means we can move

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on to what is important for Welsh

businesses, Welsh farms, and Welsh

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communities, which is the trade

talks which are essential for us in

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Wales. The Honourable member should

congratulate the PM on her success

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last Friday.

Can I ask the minister what

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Government is doing to ensure that

Wales continues to benefit from the

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positive UK wide announcement such

as the investment in Toyota in

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Derbyshire and the plant in Deeside.

Because companies like Toyota and

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air bus are very important to the

success of the Welsh economy.

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My right honourable friend is right,

and she knows about Wales extremely

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well. Airpass on Tyler Turner, key

parts of the Welsh economy. --

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airpass and Toyota. They are

well-placed to take advantage of

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opportunities due to their

efficiency will come our way. They

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are committed to making sure that

their employees have a healthy

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future after withdrawing from the

EU. They also make sure they are

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competitive in a world market, as

well.

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90% of Welsh red meat is sold in the

EU now. That market is already being

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destroyed by red meat from Romania

and Spain. One explanation that has

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been offered for a possible remedy

if Brexit happens, after the

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confirmation referendum that we

might have after the advisory

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referendum, the only way out is to

send more Welsh lamb abroad on the

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health rather than the hook. -- on

the hoof rather than the hook. Is he

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in agreement with that?

The whole house will be interested

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in the convergence of being a

defender for Welsh farmers. It would

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be a first for the Welsh farming

communities. The Welsh farming

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community are proud of their

standards. They are proud to have

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the best lamb and beef available in

all parts of the EU. They will be

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successful regardless of any scare

stories peddled by the Honourable

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member.

Question three, please.

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I commend the honourable gentleman

for his commitment to this issue and

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I would be delighted to see the

return of the Prince of Wales. The

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display would be an excellent

opportunity to boost tourism across

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Wales.

I'm glad to hear this answer.

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Because he will know that 50 years

ago almost 1 billion people around

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the world saw the investiture. Wells

-- Wales was in homes around the

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world. Prince Charles is currently

sitting in a vault beneath Saint

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James Palace. I might be wrong but

that's the principle of the thing.

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It should be on display. The people

of Wales should see it. They should

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be proud of their heritage. When

will we have it?

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The Honourable gentleman is

passionate on this issue,

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highlighting the opportunities to

enhance our tourism offer. It is

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something we will work with the

Honourable gentleman to try to

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secure. The regalia should be in

Wales, on display, and it should add

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to our vibrant tourism sector.

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I hold regular discussions with

Welsh ministers on the EU withdrawal

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bill. At the end of November my

right honourable friend, the first

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Secretary of State and I met the

Minister again as part of our

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ongoing bilateral discussions.

Yesterday Mark Drakeford and other

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administrations met to discuss

further details.

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I've asked the Secretary of State a

number of times what will happen if

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the National Assembly for Wales

withhold its consent for the

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withdrawal bill. He looks to be

unsure about it. Will he now tell

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the house what will happen if the

National Assembly for Wales withhold

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its consensus of the withdrawal

bill.

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Can I add to the description of the

Honourable member has made and say I

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am optimistic. I'm optimistic that

our work with the Welsh Government

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will lead to a motion. We should be

focusing on the outcomes. It is the

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outcomes which people want fast

discussing this. He and I want the

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best income for businesses and that

is worth focusing upon.

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Given the result of the referendum

shouldn't any Government which

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claims to represent Wales and any

party that claims to be a party of

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Wales support this Government and

this Prime Minister in delivering

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the Brexit the people of Wales

actually voted for?

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My honourable friend makes an

extremely important point. Any

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politician from Wales needs to

recognise and respect the outcome of

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the referendum. That's what the

Government is working to deliver.

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The EU withdrawal bill is largely a

technical legislation, but we expect

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the decision-making of Wales to

increase whilst also protecting the

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integrity of the UK market so that

Welsh businesses prosper in the way

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they are now.

It's great to be back. I missed you

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all so much. Thanks to everyone for

the good wishes and support whilst I

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was away. A massive thanks to my

honourable friend, the member of

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Newport East, who stood in for me

for last month's questions. Will the

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Secretary of State agree with me

that unless his Government agrees a

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common approach with devolved

nations in advance of phase two of

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the negotiations, based on proper

consideration of the evidence, is

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unlikely the Welsh Government will

pass legislative consent motion

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ratifying the EU withdrawal bill?

Mr Speaker, we are working closely

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with the Welsh Government. We had

another productive joint ministerial

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commitment. The first Secretary of

State and I met the First Minister

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just a couple of weeks ago. This

builds on an ongoing relationship

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across Government where engagement

is positive. Not only with the Welsh

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Government but also with businesses,

local authority leaders, and local

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authority Chief executives, and

communities themselves who would

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benefit from leaving the EU.

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If I thank the Secretary of State

for his response, I think... But

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would he agree with me that the UK

Government could avoid clashing with

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the Welsh Government by agreeing to

amend the EU Withdrawal Bill at

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Report Stage and by involving the

Welsh Government in drawing up

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amendments to prevent the power grab

and agree common frameworks which

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would stop the Welsh Government

putting in place its own legislation

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which is worked up, in position and

ready to go?

Mr Speaker, we are

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determined to deliver as much

certainty and continuity as we can

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as we leave the European Union. The

EU Withdrawal Bill focuses on

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delivering that. I'm sure that's

three what the Welsh Government

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once. After all, we should be

focusing on the outcomes. This is

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about providing a framework in which

businesses and communities can

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prosper. This is web politics needs

to fit the business and community

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need, rather than politicians.

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Thank you, Mr Speaker, with your

permission, I will answer questions

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five and 14 together.

I have always

said that we will negotiate for

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every nation and region of the

United Kingdom. Our goal is to

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secure a deal that works rural parts

of the country.

Following weeks,

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frankly, of chaos, the Government

realises that its original Brexit

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promises were the stuff of fantasy,

conceding on continual regulatory

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alignment with Europe, but

hand-in-hand with Labour, the

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Westminster Tory Government remains

ideological are committed to

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severing Wales' membership of the

single market and the customs union.

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Could the Secretary of State tell us

how many Welsh jobs his Government

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is prepared to sacrifice to placate

Brexiteer is on both sides of this

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chamber?

I'm very sorry about that

only honourable lady is taking and

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it's almost as though she was

disappointed with the Prime

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Minister's great success last week

in gaining an agreement with the

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prospect of moving on to phase two

of the negotiations. I will happily

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talk about investment and employment

opportunities and data. Quite

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obviously, we are extremely pleased

with the unemployment data over

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recent months, where we are seeing a

record low levels of unemployment

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and even since the referendum, we

have seen some of the greatest

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inward investment projects to the UK

and Wales and at Hope that is

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something she would want to welcome

and support in the process.

I just

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spent some time this morning with a

separate oral analysis from the

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Secretary of State the Brexit and

they provide a snapshot, not any

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future views. I would like to take

the Secretary of State back to June

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2016 when he said 120 jobs in Wales

were directly linked to our place in

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Europe and trumped everything else.

At the end of the day, this is down

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two jobs, jobs, jobs. Does he stand

by his remarks of 18 months ago and

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could he tell the house how many

jobs in Wales he is prepared to

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sacrifice and in which sectors?

It

would be interesting to know the

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honourable lady wants to respect the

outcome of the referendum, where the

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majority of Wales voted to leave the

European Union? I think leaving the

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European Union does provide new

opportunities. We want frictionless

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trading arrangements, to exploit new

markets around the world. Exports to

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markets outside the European Union

are growing much faster than exports

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to the European Union and Wales is

doing above the UK average. I hope

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she would recognise businesses are

already seeing those opportunities.

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Last week, Northern Ireland was

given carte blanche final say on the

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Government's phase one final Brexit

position, his Secretary of State

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agree that the same privilege should

now be afforded to be accountable

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and sitting parliaments of Scotland

and Wales come the final deal?

I

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have said several times and will

continue to say but I will repeat

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it, we will negotiate a Brexit deal

that works for every part of the

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United Kingdom. The joint

ministerial committee yesterday was

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extremely positive in my mind. Of

course, differences will be debated

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and that is only right and proper

and I would hope the honourable

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member would respect the outcome of

the UK referendum.

If I say to the

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Secretary of State that last week

showed how important the Irish

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dimension was to the whole EU

Withdrawal Bill and negotiations.

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Can he a categoric assurance that

Welsh ports will be safeguarded and

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given equal treatment with Northern

Ireland when it comes to trade,

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especially in well sports?

I share

my honourable member's interest in

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Welsh ports, Holyhead as important

as is fish guards in Pembrokeshire

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and I think leaving the European

Union provides new opportunities

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both the North Wales and South West

Wales. After we have left the

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European Union, they will be

gateways to Europe in a way they

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haven't been up until now and I

think their growth opportunities at

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local authorities and businesses

need to to.

Number six, sir.

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Order, can I just remind the

house... Order, order. Can I just

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remind the house that an honourable

member shouldn't leave the chamber

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until the exchanges on his or her

question have been completed. It

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really is the height of

Parliamentary discourtesy. I hope I

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don't have to say that again. I have

just been alerted to that and it

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shouldn't happen again.

Secretary of

State. Thank you Mr Speaker. Leaving

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the European Union allows us to

establish new trading unions across

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the globe, forging ahead is a global

leader in free trade. Welsh exports

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have outperformed the UK average in

the last year and I'm working

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closely with the trade Secretary to

build on this success.

Get those

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people back into the chamber. It is

good of the honourable gentleman to

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drop in on us, we are grateful.

What

is my right honourable friend doing

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to encourage Welsh businesses and

consumers to seize the opportunity

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of a global Britain by boosting

imports and exports, to increase

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consumer choice and helping

businesses to create more good jobs

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as we leave the EU?

I am grateful to

my honourable friend for his

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question. My right honourable friend

the Secretary of State for

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International Trade has established

the UK board of trade. I am pleased

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that Lord Meadow and Heather

Stephens sits on the board

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representatives and their reputation

goes well them and businesses are

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already responding. I have quoted

the export data, which is

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encouraging, but clearly there is

more work to do.

If the Secretary of

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State is serious about his

discussions of Wales Douvan

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International business links, why

won't he and his Government

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published the impact assessments?

Isn't it time these disappearing

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documents came to light?

We have

published the 50th sectoral

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analyses, covering all of those

sectors that are key to the Welsh

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economy, from steel to aerospace and

not only have we share them in the

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Commons on the Other Place, we have

shared these 800 pages with that of

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old administrations, demonstrating

the open, pragmatic approach we are

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taking to involving every part of

the United Kingdom.

Question number

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seven.

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Figures show that export from Wales

grew by 19% last year. Welsh

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businesses also looking to markets

outside of the European Union, where

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exports grew by 23% over the same

period. I will continue to support

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businesses in Wales to make them --

help them make the most of new

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opportunities.

Like Wales, there are

businesses that are the lifeblood of

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the economy, to first class

accommodation and food and drink,

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and will my right honourable friend

agree with me that Brexit will

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provide additional trading

opportunities for them and companies

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across Wales?

I'm grateful for my

honourable friend for her question.

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She's a strong champion for Cornwall

and I think Cornwall is already

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responding through her leadership to

the new opportunities that leaving

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EU provides. Wales is doing rightly

the same. Exports to areas outside

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the European Union are growing at a

much sharper rate than those of the

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European Union and Wales is well

ahead of the UK average.

What other

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trading opportunities we already

have, and the risk of the Jaguar

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Land Rover business contract ending

early? What is the Secretary of

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State doing to try and help those

jobs be secured for the future?

The

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honourable member raises an

important point, about Ford in

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Bridgend. I'm at the unions recently

and spoke to afford on a regular

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basis and I was pleased the Welsh

Government responded to their

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suggestion that I join their working

group. We are determined to work

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together to come out with the best

outcome for jobs.

Question number

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eight.

With permission Mr Speaker, I

will answer ten together. As the

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Chancellor announced in the budget,

we have begun formal negotiations

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for a North Wales growth deal. The

local area had shared their initial

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proposals and I was delighted to

host a briefing session from

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north-west MPs earlier this week. My

officials in North Wales today to

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develop proposals and it is an

exciting deal for the region.

The

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North Wales growth deal will build

on the positive cross-border work

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already taking place, which is of

interest to the good people of East

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Renfrewshire.

He is absolutely

right, the cross-border

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conductivity, which is essential to

the success of North Wales, is a key

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part of the North Wales growth deal.

That connectivity allows the

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north-west of England and north-west

of Wales to benefit from the

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economic success story that is

available both sides of the economic

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border.

He will remember from the

joint ministerial visit we undertook

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in Chester and North Wales, there is

enthusiasm for the steel on both

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sides of the border. Can he show me

that that enthusiasm will carry

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through not just to the north-west

of England but also all the way

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through to the Humber region, giving

the alliances between Humber and

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Hall.

I do indeed remember the

visitor Chester, which was a great

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success and I am pleased to say the

new Northern Powerhouse Minister was

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at the briefing we had in the Wales

Office on Monday. Businesses, local

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authorities in North Wales,

understand the power of the Northern

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Powerhouse but we also know North

Wales has a lot to offer to the

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Northern Powerhouse and that

cross-border deal is essential to

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the economic well-being of North

Wales.

Will be Minister please meet

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with the all-party group for North

Wales and Mersey de to discuss the

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detail of the growth deal and will

you please show me the colour of his

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money?

The honourable member for

Wrexham is the chair of the

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all-party group and I would be

delighted to meet with the all-party

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group. I'm well aware of the group

and the work they have done but I

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think this deal is a deal for North

Wales and that means we have to work

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with all stakeholders, all partners,

including the honourable member.

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Unemployment has risen by 10% in my

constituency, showing the need for

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this growth deal as a matter of

urgency. Will the Minister focus

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particularly on those cross-border

issues to improve transport links to

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North Wales.

I thank the honourable

member for its question and I am

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aware of support for this growth

deal. It is fair to say the

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unemployment system Bakkali

situation in Wales has seen dramatic

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improvement since 2010, 50 4,000

more jobs and unemployment falling.

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My constituency has the lowest

unemployment recorded for a long

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time but I can assure the honourable

gentleman that of the cross-border

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deal will help his constituency, we

will help to deliver it.

Number

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nine, Mr Speaker.

Minister.

Thank

you, Mr Speaker, the Chancellor has

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given additional support for

Universal Credit claimants, and

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advances to people who need it will

be made earlier and will be more

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generous and interest-free. All

claimants will be eligible for

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Universal Credit from the first day

they claim it and we will improve

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the transition from housing benefit

to universal credits.

The DWP's own

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analysis shows that half of those

with rent arrears in the Universal

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Credit said that they had gone into

arrears after making a claim. Is the

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Secretary of State content with the

fact that more Welsh families who

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are currently not in arrears will

begin 2018 in debt, once they have

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made their Universal Credit claim?

I

simply don't recognise the doom and

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gloom of the honourable lady. I have

visited job sectors throughout the

0:28:180:28:22

Wales and job sacked staff are

telling me in relation to Universal

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Credit that it is the biggest change

in a generation. I met the regional

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manager for North Wales who said in

40 years of working for the DWP,

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this was the most positive and

customer focus changes have been

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aware of this is a change that is

helping people back into employment.

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The honourable lady supports the

changes and the efforts the

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Government are making to get people

back into work.

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