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Lord Archbishop of Canterbury. My
lords. I'm grateful to the usual | 0:00:04 | 0:00:13 | |
channels for making time for me to
lead a debate. It is something of a | 0:00:13 | 0:00:21 | |
tradition for the debates to be held
in early December. Although later | 0:00:21 | 0:00:29 | |
and less well-established than the
John Lewis adverts, it is a sure | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
sign that Christmas is around the
corner. Last year, I lead a debate | 0:00:33 | 0:00:39 | |
on shared national values which
featured some thoughtful speeches. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
I'm sure that today's debate will be
equally as impressive and I am | 0:00:43 | 0:00:51 | |
grateful to many of your Lordships
for making time to attend. It will | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
be a pleasure to hear the first
speech from the noble Lord. I'm | 0:00:55 | 0:01:04 | |
delighted that Lord Sachs will be
speaking today. He has told me he | 0:01:04 | 0:01:14 | |
will need to leave in order to get
home in time for the sabbath but it | 0:01:14 | 0:01:22 | |
is good that he has come here at
all. There is a link between today's | 0:01:22 | 0:01:30 | |
debate on education and the previous
one on shared values. I hope to give | 0:01:30 | 0:01:35 | |
an outline of the sort of values
that we suggest should underpin our | 0:01:35 | 0:01:42 | |
education system and the structures
that might support them so that we | 0:01:42 | 0:01:49 | |
may create a society where mutual
and individual flourishing become | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
the norm. As in so many areas of our
public life, it was the churches | 0:01:52 | 0:02:00 | |
that pioneered the idea of a
universal system of education free | 0:02:00 | 0:02:06 | |
for all. In 1811, Joshua Watson
founded the National Society for | 0:02:06 | 0:02:13 | |
promoting the education of the poor
in England and Wales. Fortunately, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:20 | |
our titles are shorter nowadays. He
was described as the best layman in | 0:02:20 | 0:02:26 | |
England. That is a title due for
revival. What was started in 1811 | 0:02:26 | 0:02:38 | |
lives on today as the National
Society. I declare an interest, as | 0:02:38 | 0:02:43 | |
the co-president. My right
honourable friend, the Bishop of | 0:02:43 | 0:02:50 | |
Ely, here's the Council of the
National society. He set of values | 0:02:50 | 0:02:55 | |
framework that was important, as was
the imperative in his idea to | 0:02:55 | 0:03:02 | |
improve productivity and fight
embedded squalor. By 1870 there were | 0:03:02 | 0:03:09 | |
too many children in schools for the
churches to cope with alone. The | 0:03:09 | 0:03:15 | |
first of the great education act
brought them under state control. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:21 | |
Still with a strong religious
participation. Today, the Church of | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
England alone educates over 1
million pupils each year each day. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:34 | |
26% of all primaries and 6% of all
secondary schools. Joshua Watson and | 0:03:34 | 0:03:40 | |
his friends conceived their plans at
a time of great national crisis and | 0:03:40 | 0:03:45 | |
upheaval. The Luddite movement was a
response to fear of redundancy | 0:03:45 | 0:03:53 | |
because of growing technological
advances. Two centuries later and | 0:03:53 | 0:03:58 | |
the advances are different but still
there. We are calling it the fourth | 0:03:58 | 0:04:07 | |
industrial revolution. As the World
Economic Forum describes it, the | 0:04:07 | 0:04:12 | |
digital revolution that has been
occurring since the middle of the | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
last century is today accompanied by
emerging technological breakthroughs | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
in fields such as artificial
intelligence, robotics, the Internet | 0:04:20 | 0:04:25 | |
of things, autonomous vehicles,
nanotechnology, biotechnology, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:30 | |
material science, energy storage and
quantum computing. How our schools | 0:04:30 | 0:04:41 | |
can equip us for this seismic shift
and our systems Social Security can | 0:04:41 | 0:04:49 | |
enable us to keep society cohesive
and healthy are among the greatest | 0:04:49 | 0:04:54 | |
challenges facing this generation
and the generation to come. And of | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
course there is also Brexit. It has
unforeseeable changes and | 0:04:57 | 0:05:02 | |
opportunities. We need an
educational system that can bear the | 0:05:02 | 0:05:09 | |
weight of the changes that are
coming. We must be sure that whilst | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
we might find some inspiration in
our past, we don't waste our time | 0:05:13 | 0:05:19 | |
rummaging their for the solutions of
tomorrow. We must challenge the | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
pockets of deprivation and
underachievement that exist across | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
our communities. We must face the
poverty of aspiration which forms | 0:05:26 | 0:05:34 | |
such a barrier to human flourishing.
The church of England has looked to | 0:05:34 | 0:05:44 | |
promote an education that allows
children, young people and adults to | 0:05:44 | 0:05:49 | |
live out Jesus's promise of life in
its fullest. To learn skills and | 0:05:49 | 0:05:58 | |
develop character, and the
spiritual, intellectual and | 0:05:58 | 0:06:05 | |
emotional resources needed to live a
good life, as an individual but also | 0:06:05 | 0:06:10 | |
in a community. In listening to a
debate recently about science and | 0:06:10 | 0:06:19 | |
innovation strategy, I was struck by
an observation made from the front | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
bench. He echoed other speakers in
that extraordinarily good debate and | 0:06:24 | 0:06:33 | |
said, the cultural divide that we
have had has been a disaster for | 0:06:33 | 0:06:40 | |
this country since 1944 and earlier.
The truth is that the myth of a | 0:06:40 | 0:06:47 | |
golden age or a disastrous misstep
are wide of the mark. The noble Lord | 0:06:47 | 0:06:52 | |
went on to describe how our
universities are some of the best in | 0:06:52 | 0:06:58 | |
the world for academic achievement
but where we succeed in research we | 0:06:58 | 0:07:07 | |
fail in development. As the noble
Lord pointed out, Germany spends 3% | 0:07:07 | 0:07:21 | |
and is aiming to spend 3.5%. We
cannot fall further behind in this | 0:07:21 | 0:07:26 | |
area but it can only happen through
the effective work of education. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:31 | |
We've neglected the value of further
education within our overall | 0:07:31 | 0:07:38 | |
educational landscape for far too
long. Since the 19 44 education act. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:47 | |
It is a legacy of the class system
especially in England. The children | 0:07:47 | 0:07:52 | |
of privilege are continuing to
inherit privilege. This is true not | 0:07:52 | 0:08:01 | |
only in educational institutions but
also the whole country. Unless we | 0:08:01 | 0:08:09 | |
embark on cultural change, and the
entirety of our education services, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:23 | |
IC is little prospect for remedying
this wrong. Human flourishing | 0:08:23 | 0:08:30 | |
requires flexible and imaginative
training based in attitude. Going | 0:08:30 | 0:08:39 | |
towards a more inclusive approach
with those with disabilities or | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
specially educational needs is an
example of the way that | 0:08:42 | 0:08:50 | |
comprehensive education has improved
and a welcome step for an education | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
that seeks the fullest and most
abundant life for each human being | 0:08:52 | 0:08:59 | |
regardless of their ability. One
which draws the best out of every | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
person. But the academic selective
approach to education which | 0:09:01 | 0:09:09 | |
prioritises separation as a
necessary precondition for the | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
nurture of excellence makes a
statement about the purpose of | 0:09:13 | 0:09:18 | |
education that is contrary to the
notion of the common good. At its | 0:09:18 | 0:09:25 | |
best, education must be a process of
shaping human beings to reach out | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
and enjoy abundant life. To do so in
such strong communities of widely | 0:09:29 | 0:09:36 | |
varying ability with distinctive
approaches to each student, so that | 0:09:36 | 0:09:42 | |
each around them flourish. An
approach that neglects those of | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
lesser ability or does not give the
fullest opportunity to those of | 0:09:46 | 0:09:52 | |
higher stability or enable all to
develop a sense of community and | 0:09:52 | 0:09:58 | |
mutuality of love in action,
fullness and abundance of life, will | 0:09:58 | 0:10:03 | |
ultimately fail. One of the areas
I'm most concerned about and we on | 0:10:03 | 0:10:10 | |
these benches seems clearly through
the parish system and which was | 0:10:10 | 0:10:16 | |
highlighted in the review into
opportunity and social integration | 0:10:16 | 0:10:24 | |
is how the handing down of poverty
and deprivation between generations | 0:10:24 | 0:10:30 | |
presents a barrier to achieving
social cohesion as well as | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
injustice. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
All those receiving free school
meals, only 32% of girls and 28% of | 0:10:36 | 0:10:42 | |
boys in the white British category
achieved five A-C grades at GCSE. -- | 0:10:42 | 0:10:55 | |
A*-C grades at GCSE. One might
conclude from this that white | 0:10:55 | 0:11:00 | |
British children brought up in
economic poverty stand a high chance | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
of being among the least well
equipped to integrate into a rapidly | 0:11:03 | 0:11:09 | |
changing world where skills in
science, technology, new Morrissey, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
literacy and IT will be essential.
Not enough has been done to break | 0:11:13 | 0:11:18 | |
down entrenched disadvantages or to
improve integration and cohesion. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:25 | |
The church of England, with its wide
and widening schools network, can | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
and must do more to address this
problem. This is the Josh Law Watson | 0:11:28 | 0:11:35 | |
challenge of our generation. The aim
of the founders of the National | 0:11:35 | 0:11:40 | |
Society was to be Universalist,
unapologetically Christian in the | 0:11:40 | 0:11:45 | |
nature of their vocation and service
and committed to the relief of | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
disadvantage and deprivation where
ever it was to be found. Ours must | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
be the same. 200 years on, the role
of the church of England in | 0:11:52 | 0:11:59 | |
education can be to encourage and
support excellence, provide a values | 0:11:59 | 0:12:05 | |
-based education for all, with a
laser-like focus on the poorest and | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
the most deprived. That means a
renewed vision that focuses as much | 0:12:08 | 0:12:15 | |
an deprivation of spirit and poverty
of aspiration as did our forebears | 0:12:15 | 0:12:21 | |
on material poverty and inequality.
What follows from that is a clear | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
move towards schools that not only
deliver academic excellence, but | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
which have the boldness and vision
to do so outside the boundaries of a | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
selective system. The Church of
England's educational offer to our | 0:12:34 | 0:12:40 | |
children, our nation, is church
schools that are, in its own words, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:47 | |
deeply Christian, nurturing the
whole child, spiritually, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
emotionally and mentally as well as
academically, yet welcoming the | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
whole community. I pay tribute to
the immense hard work of heads, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:59 | |
teachers, leadership teams,
governors and parents associations, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
who make so many church and other
schools the successes that they are. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
And with the strong Christian
commitment of heads and leadership | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
teams, the ethos and values of
church of England schools, which | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
makes them so appealing to families
of all faiths and none, will be | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
guarded and will continue. A major
obstacle, though, to our education | 0:13:18 | 0:13:25 | |
system, is a lack of clear internal
and commonly held values. We live in | 0:13:25 | 0:13:32 | |
a country where an overarching
story, which is the framework for | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
explaining life, is more or less
disappeared. We have a world of | 0:13:36 | 0:13:42 | |
unguided and competing narratives,
where the only common factor is the | 0:13:42 | 0:13:47 | |
inviolability of personal choice.
That means that for schools that are | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
not of a religious character,
confidence in any personal sense of | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
ultimate values has diminished.
Utilitarianism rules and skills move | 0:13:54 | 0:14:01 | |
from being talents held for the
common good, which we are entrusted | 0:14:01 | 0:14:07 | |
with as benefits for all, to being
personal possessions for our own | 0:14:07 | 0:14:12 | |
advantage. We see this already in
our universities, in the economic | 0:14:12 | 0:14:18 | |
sword of Damocles that dangles over
their heads of so many students who | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
have vast financial investments at
stake in their degree qualification. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:28 | |
The challenge is the week, secular
and functional narrative that | 0:14:28 | 0:14:34 | |
successive governments have sought
to insert in the place of our | 0:14:34 | 0:14:39 | |
historic, Christian-based
understanding, whether explicitly or | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
implicitly. Factionalism or
utilitarianism offers neither a | 0:14:43 | 0:14:48 | |
meaningful alternative to those who
are threatened by peddlers of | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
extremism, nor a confident framework
within which to educate those of | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
different cultures and beliefs. It
is no great surprise to those of us | 0:14:56 | 0:15:02 | |
familiar with church schools, and I
should say that all five of our | 0:15:02 | 0:15:07 | |
children went to state schools, both
church and non-church, that there is | 0:15:07 | 0:15:14 | |
strong, values -based approach
remained so attractive, especially | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
to communities of other faiths. In
many church of England schools in | 0:15:17 | 0:15:22 | |
areas of high immigration over the
last 60 years, although in some | 0:15:22 | 0:15:27 | |
cases almost all the children are of
a non-Christian faith, the narrative | 0:15:27 | 0:15:32 | |
of the school has remained
Christian, while respecting | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
religious diversity, including no
faith at all. Schools, FC and HD | 0:15:35 | 0:15:44 | |
institutions are important
intermediate institutions, | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
positioned between the individuals
and the state. Which exists to bring | 0:15:46 | 0:15:51 | |
fullness of life and to be nurseries
of community living. As well as | 0:15:51 | 0:15:58 | |
inspire, they need to develop
stories of the common good, of | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
community, not merely of tolerance.
This is achievable so long as our | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
education system remains diverse in
provision is accountable and well | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
funded, enabling different streams
and approaches within its overall | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
ecosystem. Lifelong learning and
training and developing the prestige | 0:16:15 | 0:16:21 | |
of technical education is vital for
giving us the flexibility and | 0:16:21 | 0:16:27 | |
capacity necessary for the fourth
Industrial Revolution. The church of | 0:16:27 | 0:16:33 | |
England has recently set up the
church of England foundation for | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
educational leadership, in order to
begin to tackle the need for deeper | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
and more effective training in
issues of values and practices, as | 0:16:39 | 0:16:44 | |
well as in the hard skills of
leading schools and nurturing new | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
leadership talent. Education must
combine the provision of skills with | 0:16:47 | 0:16:53 | |
the creation of values and practices
that enable those values to be | 0:16:53 | 0:17:00 | |
developed and to become virtues.
Where that happens, life in all its | 0:17:00 | 0:17:05 | |
fullness becomes accessible to all
young people. It is not a magic | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
wands to solve all society's
problems. But it is an essential | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
building block for achieving an
education system that can help to | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
build a more prosperous and cohesive
society. I beg to move the motion | 0:17:18 | 0:17:23 | |
standing in my name on the order
paper. The question is that this | 0:17:23 | 0:17:29 | |
motion be agreed to. I think we are
all greatly in the debt, once again, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:35 | |
of the most Reverend Archbishop. His
words last year on British values, I | 0:17:35 | 0:17:41 | |
think many of us reflected on
through the year, and so today, with | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
his words about education, are
deeply important at this moment. I | 0:17:45 | 0:17:51 | |
speak also as someone whose three
children and six of our | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
grandchildren went to exactly the
same Church primary school, and | 0:17:54 | 0:18:00 | |
warmly applaud the work of faith
schools, the work they do to create | 0:18:00 | 0:18:05 | |
the citizens of tomorrow, the work
they do for the local community. 100 | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
years ago, my grandfather wrote a
book, Education And World | 0:18:09 | 0:18:15 | |
Citizenship, working closely with
the noble Lord Judd's Father and he | 0:18:15 | 0:18:20 | |
went on to start a series of
programmes called the Council for | 0:18:20 | 0:18:25 | |
education and world citizenship and
this was precisely at the heart of | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
the issue that education is not only
about skills, it isn't only about | 0:18:28 | 0:18:34 | |
qualifications, it is about
preparing the citizens we need for | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
tomorrow. Now I would argue that
over many decades, we deeply failed | 0:18:37 | 0:18:42 | |
very intelligent children from
impoverished backgrounds. My early | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
years were spent in Brixton,
Peckham, Bethnal Green, where | 0:18:46 | 0:18:51 | |
children did not even take A-levels.
Teaching reading and writing was | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
described as imposing middle-class
values on working-class children. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
There was a wonderful document
produced by the Maudsley, 15,000 | 0:18:59 | 0:19:04 | |
Hours, which showed that the dimmest
children, the least achieving | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
children at one school were doing
better than the most able children | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
were at a bad school. And Sir Keith
Joseph, my Lord Baker, many others | 0:19:11 | 0:19:17 | |
in this room, in this house, worked
really hard to improve the | 0:19:17 | 0:19:23 | |
curriculum, to improve the
achievements, to improve the | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
teaching, and we have seen a
dramatic change in the ability of | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
young people to fulfil their
potential. But it still isn't | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
enough. Of course, I applaud also
the primate's words about education | 0:19:33 | 0:19:41 | |
not only being functionalist but the
chief inspector of schools, a man I | 0:19:41 | 0:19:49 | |
greatly admire, spoke only the other
day about the importance of not | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
reducing education to functionalist
level. Our job is to young people to | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
succeed in life, broadening of mind,
enriching communities, advancing | 0:19:57 | 0:20:02 | |
civilisation. Now, if you come with
me to the University of Hull, and it | 0:20:02 | 0:20:11 | |
wasn't going to be long before we
got there, you will see on the main | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
staircase wonderful engraving with
the words of Winston Churchill, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:21 | |
"Religion has been a rock in the
life and character of the British | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
people upon which they have built
their hopes and cast their cares" | 0:20:24 | 0:20:29 | |
people upon which they have built
their hopes and cast their cares". | 0:20:29 | 0:20:30 | |
And in today's world of
multicultural, multi-faith, this is | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
more complex but nobody better than
the Church of England, the words of | 0:20:34 | 0:20:40 | |
the most reverend primate can lead
us forward. I speak with great pride | 0:20:40 | 0:20:45 | |
of the Chancellor -- as the
Chancellor of the University of | 0:20:45 | 0:20:51 | |
Hull, this is an anchor institution
in an impoverished region. The | 0:20:51 | 0:20:57 | |
University believes in transforming
the individual as well as positively | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
impacting society. It is placed
based, an area with low aspirations, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:07 | |
with low achievement in the past but
it is globally engaged. And last | 0:21:07 | 0:21:13 | |
year, I invited the primate to visit
Hull during the City of Culture. I | 0:21:13 | 0:21:19 | |
don't think he was able to fulfil
that invitation but I'm delighted to | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
say that two weeks ago, the Queen
came... LAUGHTER | 0:21:22 | 0:21:31 | |
To open the new medical school and
meet all those involved in the City | 0:21:31 | 0:21:37 | |
of Culture. And I say that as the
news that has come through that | 0:21:37 | 0:21:42 | |
Coventry is to be the next City of
Culture, and I know the primate has | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
very close connections with
Coventry. But the ability to give | 0:21:46 | 0:21:52 | |
people hope and optimism and a sense
of collaboration is quite | 0:21:52 | 0:21:58 | |
remarkable. The University of Hull
trains doctors and nurses in a | 0:21:58 | 0:22:03 | |
modern, patient -based, community
focused manner. It has | 0:22:03 | 0:22:09 | |
entrepreneurial activities. It has
pioneered environmental, maritime, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:14 | |
renewable energy projects, bringing
prosperity, skills, investment and | 0:22:14 | 0:22:20 | |
success. And the City of Culture has
given inspiration, encouragement and | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
energy to the city and to the
individuals who live there. They | 0:22:24 | 0:22:30 | |
have got a leading department on
modern slavery. Last year, Kofi | 0:22:30 | 0:22:35 | |
Anand came to speak. Their campaign,
hidden in plain sight, tackles the | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
current situation of modern slavery,
focused on by the Prime Minister. It | 0:22:39 | 0:22:45 | |
is placed based, it is globally
engaged and it is modern -- a model | 0:22:45 | 0:22:50 | |
to so many. The right reverend, the
primate, reminded us of the | 0:22:50 | 0:22:55 | |
importance of teachers, of
headteachers. The headteacher is the | 0:22:55 | 0:23:02 | |
closest thing to a magic wand in
education and I applaud all those | 0:23:02 | 0:23:08 | |
new routes into education, like
teach first, teach now, and all the | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
many other ways. There is no more
important obligation than preparing | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
the next generation. When the house
starts in another place, the prayer | 0:23:16 | 0:23:25 | |
is that we shall govern wisely and
avoid love of power and desire to | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
please. Now, research, innovation,
the fourth Industrial Revolution, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:37 | |
all the great achievements of our
universities are important but if we | 0:23:37 | 0:23:42 | |
don't have the wisdom, the judgment,
the moral basis to make decisions, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
we will be lost and at a time when
democracy is fuelled by social | 0:23:46 | 0:23:53 | |
media, by sound bites, by the
short-term, it is all the more | 0:23:53 | 0:23:58 | |
important that we retain a moral
compass, a faith -based approach, | 0:23:58 | 0:24:04 | |
and the principles of citizenship. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
It gives me great pleasure to speak
of this moment in this debate as to | 0:24:11 | 0:24:19 | |
thank the Archbishop of Canterbury
for creating this possibility of all | 0:24:19 | 0:24:24 | |
of us to look at this important
sector and aspect of our life. We | 0:24:24 | 0:24:31 | |
must content ourselves with a cameo
contribution and do our best here | 0:24:31 | 0:24:36 | |
and there but together I'm sure we
will have a multifaceted look at | 0:24:36 | 0:24:43 | |
this vital subject. May I express my
delight at the presence in the | 0:24:43 | 0:24:51 | |
chamber of our noble friend, the
second coming of the noble Lord | 0:24:51 | 0:24:57 | |
charters, here in this house. I look
forward to his speech. We have | 0:24:57 | 0:25:06 | |
collaborated together for 20 years
in London. Here we are discussing | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
this vital subject. It is at the
heart of all other activities that | 0:25:10 | 0:25:19 | |
we seek to envisage and build. I've
been a school governor for over 35 | 0:25:19 | 0:25:25 | |
years. In Laurel, suburban, and
inner-city sects without hands to | 0:25:25 | 0:25:34 | |
specialise. I was a member of the
board of Roehampton University and | 0:25:34 | 0:25:41 | |
I'm currently the chair of trustees.
I have that vantage point from which | 0:25:41 | 0:25:47 | |
to speak today. We have two
remarkable schools, one for boys and | 0:25:47 | 0:25:58 | |
one for girls. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:09 | |
I have read countless articles, and
they will come to the same | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
conclusion. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:23 | |
We are worthy of the name. It
embraces the spiritual, moral and | 0:26:26 | 0:26:34 | |
intellectual development of young
people. I would add adults to that | 0:26:34 | 0:26:42 | |
since education, in my view, is a
lifelong affair. The catholic spirit | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
of this definition is surely
self-evident. We would wonder about | 0:26:47 | 0:26:54 | |
the need to have a debate of this
kind at all since we have such a | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
common platform to stand on. And
yet, it is more complicated. I've | 0:26:58 | 0:27:12 | |
received a letter from a leading
British composer, complaining about | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
the narrowly defined curriculum of
the English baccalaureate. It | 0:27:15 | 0:27:24 | |
concentrates on subjects in a way
that makes it virtually impossible | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
for schools to give their proper
attention to the creative arts at | 0:27:27 | 0:27:34 | |
the spiritual subjects, to say
nothing of personal health and other | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
related topics. Asking whether
pressure cannot be put on those to | 0:27:38 | 0:27:46 | |
make a more flexible view. We could
actually welcome as an essential | 0:27:46 | 0:27:55 | |
part of education, these creative
and spiritual subjects. And that is | 0:27:55 | 0:28:05 | |
not just him writing to me in this
way. Schools, at the same time as | 0:28:05 | 0:28:10 | |
having to deal with the curriculum,
are also dealing with constraints on | 0:28:10 | 0:28:17 | |
their budget. There are extra costs
they've got to absorb and the | 0:28:17 | 0:28:22 | |
schools with which I'm involved face
the need to increase productivity | 0:28:22 | 0:28:28 | |
and cut what is being delivered. Two
teachers a year for the next three | 0:28:28 | 0:28:38 | |
years. We may well agree without any
hesitation on the definition but the | 0:28:38 | 0:28:44 | |
practicalities on the ground work
against our being able to make that | 0:28:44 | 0:28:50 | |
real for our children. In the
briefing paper, there is a | 0:28:50 | 0:28:56 | |
frequently occurring word, the word
character. The method is just to do | 0:28:56 | 0:29:01 | |
a bit of Bible study. The word
character, a Greek word, appears | 0:29:01 | 0:29:09 | |
once in the new Testament. And they
all know where it appears. I can see | 0:29:09 | 0:29:15 | |
it on their faces. It is in the
Epistle to the Hebrews. It takes a | 0:29:15 | 0:29:25 | |
layperson to say of course, of
course. But character in the new | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
Testament sense is an attempt to
describe the divinity of Christ. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:34 | |
This is not a lesson in Christology
but an attempt to show that Christ | 0:29:34 | 0:29:39 | |
was imbued with everything that God
was. He is stamped with the | 0:29:39 | 0:29:46 | |
character of God. His personality
exudes everything that can be said | 0:29:46 | 0:29:54 | |
about God. I realise there are
others for whom that particular part | 0:29:54 | 0:29:59 | |
of my presentation will resonate but
I draw from it the need in our | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
educational system to stamp all
those under education with | 0:30:02 | 0:30:08 | |
everything that is good, the values
alluded to which so they can be not | 0:30:08 | 0:30:16 | |
just empty vessels receiving
knowledge, cognitive, facts and | 0:30:16 | 0:30:23 | |
skills in those objective censors
but be brought alive to become the | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
people they were made to be. To have
brought from them what is intrinsic | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
to them, and character in that sense
seems to be eminently worthwhile. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:40 | |
Here ends the lesson but the real
world in which we practice, for the | 0:30:40 | 0:30:56 | |
boys, knife crime, drugs, violence
on the streets, 11 over children | 0:30:56 | 0:31:04 | |
witnessing claims on the streets,
one boy accused, found guilty of | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
murder. A school that passed to
incorporate those dimensions. 85% of | 0:31:08 | 0:31:20 | |
our girls are Muslims. It needs to
be applied with imagination and | 0:31:20 | 0:31:31 | |
flair, not simply in an espionage
kind of way. I want the government | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
to reassure us that a lot of what
could be accommodated could be made | 0:31:35 | 0:31:42 | |
mandatory, that we look again at the
prevent programme and we look to | 0:31:42 | 0:31:57 | |
flourish alongside the core subjects
as mentioned in the original | 0:31:57 | 0:32:07 | |
definition which I quoted. I join in
thanking this. Education is not only | 0:32:07 | 0:32:19 | |
essential in building a skilful
society but also in maintaining it. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:26 | |
Increasingly there is an economic
and social imperative for lifelong | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
learning. Education has a role that
should engender a love of learning. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:41 | |
Education starts in the home. We've
all seen the joy on the face of a | 0:32:41 | 0:32:46 | |
young child who takes its first step
and recite its first nursery rhyme. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:53 | |
That's the sort of satisfaction
education should continue to | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
generate, building confidence and
aspiration. Sadly it is not always | 0:32:55 | 0:33:02 | |
the productive experience but it
could and should be. The Church of | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
England plays a key part in
education at all levels but | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
particularly at primary level. Those
schools are sought after by those of | 0:33:09 | 0:33:16 | |
all faith and none. They have an
ethos that makes for a good start | 0:33:16 | 0:33:24 | |
for young people and plays its part
in fighting embedded squalor. The | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
government should ensure that this
love of learning continues but too | 0:33:28 | 0:33:33 | |
often, Curiosity and enthusiasm are
trumped by testing and assessment, | 0:33:33 | 0:33:39 | |
with children measured not by where
their interests lie but academic | 0:33:39 | 0:33:44 | |
measures. I've asked ministers
before and not got a satisfactory | 0:33:44 | 0:33:51 | |
answer what important is the
government gives to love and | 0:33:51 | 0:33:56 | |
learning of fun, and stimulating
ideas and aspiration in the young, | 0:33:56 | 0:34:01 | |
particularly those who prefer doing
and making to thinking and studying. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
Constant assessment plays havoc with
building skills and knowledge and | 0:34:05 | 0:34:11 | |
generates fear of failure in the
very young. If education becomes | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
associated with hopelessness it
becomes increasingly challenging to | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
build-up self-respect and
aspiration. I built up skills in | 0:34:18 | 0:34:27 | |
Germany and I know only too well the
difficulty of capturing the slowest. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:36 | |
It can be captivating but it is hard
work. Enthusiasm for learning can be | 0:34:36 | 0:34:42 | |
generated in the most unlikely
people if they can see a purpose and | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
practical pathway so they can be
achievers. They are I ask the | 0:34:46 | 0:34:54 | |
Minister to impress on colleagues
this. If young people are intrigued | 0:34:54 | 0:35:04 | |
by cars, cooking, by care, they will
see a purpose in learning and | 0:35:04 | 0:35:11 | |
engagement in a practical subject
can be bent to grasping their | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
academic counterparts. It can
clarify the purpose of maths when | 0:35:13 | 0:35:20 | |
maths lessons have been impenetrable
previously. Schools encourage | 0:35:20 | 0:35:26 | |
learning of all sorts but are often
held back by oft changing government | 0:35:26 | 0:35:34 | |
ministers, the remorseless churn of
government. It is pernicious but | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
secretaries of state implement their
own bright ideas, regardless of the | 0:35:38 | 0:35:46 | |
impact on teachers. Can the minister
persuade his colleagues to hold fire | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
and consult and undertake constant
benefit analysis for changes which | 0:35:50 | 0:35:57 | |
are politically driven and have
little to do with helping young | 0:35:57 | 0:36:05 | |
people. What steps is the government
taking to incentivise schools over | 0:36:05 | 0:36:10 | |
promoting apprenticeships and other
skills by celebrating pupils who | 0:36:10 | 0:36:15 | |
achieve in those areas? League
tables lead to challenging | 0:36:15 | 0:36:27 | |
situations even when skills are
practical and work -based. We need | 0:36:27 | 0:36:32 | |
people with practical skills. I
recall years ago writing a | 0:36:32 | 0:36:40 | |
pretentious A level essay on Adam
Smith's court. This was before | 0:36:40 | 0:36:46 | |
political correctness, when man was
deemed to embrace woman. I think | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
that is how the Romans put it. But
education should be lifelong. There | 0:36:50 | 0:36:56 | |
is such an important part to play
for adult education. The overall | 0:36:56 | 0:37:04 | |
number of students from lower
participation areas has fallen by | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
15% and whilst figures for full-time
students have risen, there has been | 0:37:08 | 0:37:13 | |
a simultaneous 40% fall in students
from those same areas. There are no | 0:37:13 | 0:37:19 | |
fewer people from disadvantaged
backgrounds going to university. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:26 | |
Skills budget has been reduced. Gone
are so many of those life enhancing | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
evening classes which could broaden
minds and promote aspiration in a | 0:37:30 | 0:37:35 | |
wider variety of ways, leading to
the flourishing of the skills | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
society. It is well proven that it
brings greater benefits to family | 0:37:38 | 0:37:48 | |
and community life. Further
education colleges are essential to | 0:37:48 | 0:37:54 | |
this progress with valuable
contributions from great | 0:37:54 | 0:37:59 | |
institutions such as the open
University and Birkbeck College. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
These services provide enable adults
to fulfil potential and contribute | 0:38:01 | 0:38:06 | |
to the economy but all of them are
concerned about funding, Wanna fight | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
teachers, uncertainty for the future
to plan their work to full benefit. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:16 | |
Part-time learners have been heavily
hit in changes to funding and | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
colleges have struggled to keep up
staffing numbers. I hope the | 0:38:19 | 0:38:24 | |
government will listen to all those
and provide more reliable funding | 0:38:24 | 0:38:33 | |
for the prosperity of the country. I
look forward to the other speakers | 0:38:33 | 0:38:39 | |
and I thank the Archbishop for the
opportunity to do this debate. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:46 | |
My Lords, I 2am grateful to the most
reverend primate for initiating this | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
debate on a subject vital to the
future flourishing of our children | 0:38:50 | 0:38:55 | |
and grandchildren. My Lords, allow
me to speak personally as a, | 0:38:55 | 0:39:05 | |
something about this debate moves me
greatly and go to the heart of this | 0:39:05 | 0:39:10 | |
debate, Moses assemble the
Israelites on the brink of the | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
Exodus, he did not talk about the
Long walk to Freedom, he did not | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
speak about the land flowing with
milk and honey. Instead, repeatedly, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:21 | |
he turned to the far horizon of the
future and spoke about the duty of | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
parents to educate their children.
He did it again at the end of his | 0:39:25 | 0:39:30 | |
life, in the famous words, "You
shall teach these things repeatedly | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
to your children, speaking of them
when you sit in your house, when you | 0:39:34 | 0:39:39 | |
walk on the way, when you lie down
and when you rise up". By this | 0:39:39 | 0:39:46 | |
session with education that has
stayed with us from this day to | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
this? -- why that obsession. Because
to defend the country, you need an | 0:39:50 | 0:39:55 | |
army, but to defend a civilisation,
you need schools. You need education | 0:39:55 | 0:40:00 | |
as the conversation between the
generations. Whatever the society, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:06 | |
the culture or the faith, we need to
teach our children and they bear is | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
what we aspire to, and the ideals we
were bequeathed by those who came | 0:40:10 | 0:40:15 | |
before us. We need to teach them the
story of which we and they are apart | 0:40:15 | 0:40:20 | |
and we need to trust them to go
further than we did when they come | 0:40:20 | 0:40:25 | |
to write their own chapter. We make
a grave mistake if we think of | 0:40:25 | 0:40:32 | |
education only in terms of knowledge
and skills, what the American writer | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
David Brooks calls the resume
virtues, as opposed to the eulogy | 0:40:35 | 0:40:41 | |
virtues. And this is not woolly
idealism. It is hard-headed | 0:40:41 | 0:40:47 | |
pragmatism. Never has the world
change so fast and it is getting | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
faster every year. We have no idea
what patterns of employment will | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
look like in two, let alone 20 years
from now, what skills will be valued | 0:40:55 | 0:41:01 | |
and which done instead by
artificially intelligent, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:07 | |
preternaturally polite robots. We
need to give our children and | 0:41:07 | 0:41:15 | |
internalised moral satellite
navigation system so that they can | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
find their way across the
undiscovered country called the | 0:41:17 | 0:41:22 | |
future. We need to give them the
strongest possible sense of | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
collective responsibility for the
common good because we don't know | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
who will be the winners and losers
in the lottery of the global economy | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
and we need to make sure its
blessings are shared. There's too | 0:41:34 | 0:41:43 | |
much I and too little we in our
culture and we need to teach our job | 0:41:43 | 0:41:47 | |
and to care for others, especially
for those not like us. We work for | 0:41:47 | 0:41:52 | |
all these things in our Jewish
schools. We give our children | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
confidence in who they are so they
can handle change without fear and | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
keep learning through a lifetime. We
teach them to be not just proud Jews | 0:41:59 | 0:42:07 | |
but proud to be English, British,
defenders of democratic freedom and | 0:42:07 | 0:42:12 | |
active citizens, helping those in
need. Schools are about more than | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
what we know and what we can do.
They are about who we are and what | 0:42:16 | 0:42:21 | |
we must do to help others become
what they might be. The world our | 0:42:21 | 0:42:27 | |
children will inherit tomorrow is
born in the schools we built today. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:36 | |
My Lords, I do thank the most
reverend primate for this important | 0:42:37 | 0:42:42 | |
debate on education. I remind your
Lordships of my registered interest | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
as chairman of the chartered
institution for further education. I | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
was particularly pleased to see the
Archbishop's choice of words, a | 0:42:50 | 0:42:56 | |
flourishing and skilled society and
it is about the provision of those | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
skills that I want to make just a
couple of points this morning. For | 0:42:58 | 0:43:03 | |
many, many years, colleges of
further education in this country | 0:43:03 | 0:43:07 | |
have had a strong tradition of
developing technical skills and | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
working alongside employers. The
outstanding Dudley College, for | 0:43:10 | 0:43:17 | |
instance, has its roots in the 1862
Dudley Public Mechanics Institute | 0:43:17 | 0:43:24 | |
and there are many, many more with
equally venerable origins, just as | 0:43:24 | 0:43:28 | |
the Archbishop has reminded us, the
church schools have. However, | 0:43:28 | 0:43:33 | |
successive governments have seen
their most important task for young | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
people as pushing them towards
university entrance. Consequently, | 0:43:37 | 0:43:43 | |
fewer young adults and their parents
have come to view further education | 0:43:43 | 0:43:47 | |
colleges as providing a viable and
creditable vocational and | 0:43:47 | 0:43:53 | |
educational paths. The prestige of
the FE sector is therefore declined, | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
being often considered as a
second-tier alternative to those who | 0:43:57 | 0:44:02 | |
did not do too well at school and
this is at complete odds with the | 0:44:02 | 0:44:09 | |
valuable work that, as Lady Gardner
reminded us, it does, and the | 0:44:09 | 0:44:14 | |
opportunities it creates for its
students, for business and the | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
economy of the country.
Concomitantly, the FE sector has | 0:44:16 | 0:44:23 | |
progressively had its remit altered
through changes in government | 0:44:23 | 0:44:25 | |
policy. I have mentioned to your
Lordships before the fact that the | 0:44:25 | 0:44:30 | |
sector's main mission, which should
be the provision of high-quality | 0:44:30 | 0:44:32 | |
technical skills, has been too often
distorted by its having to teach | 0:44:32 | 0:44:40 | |
what our kindergarten competencies
to teenagers who have been most | 0:44:40 | 0:44:44 | |
seriously failed by primary schools,
which have neglected to teach them | 0:44:44 | 0:44:49 | |
literacy and numeracy properly. Of
the 2014 students transferring from | 0:44:49 | 0:44:54 | |
schools to FE at 16, some 28% were
functionally numerate. That is, | 0:44:54 | 0:45:01 | |
their arithmetical abilities were
those normally associated with an | 0:45:01 | 0:45:06 | |
eight-year-old, and some 15% were
functionally illiterate by the same | 0:45:06 | 0:45:08 | |
criteria. For several years, it has
been the accession of government | 0:45:08 | 0:45:13 | |
that too few of these students at 16
have passed GCSE English and maths | 0:45:13 | 0:45:17 | |
at grade C level. Ministers are
right to be concerned that secondary | 0:45:17 | 0:45:24 | |
schools, like their primary
counterparts, are failing these | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
young people, but they are wrong to
insist that further education | 0:45:27 | 0:45:31 | |
colleges should be the places where
the pieces are picked up. This is | 0:45:31 | 0:45:37 | |
not a task which should skew the
vocational mission of further | 0:45:37 | 0:45:41 | |
education. Often, the largest
departments, my Lords, in colleges, | 0:45:41 | 0:45:46 | |
are now those devoted to fulfilling
the government's corrective of | 0:45:46 | 0:45:49 | |
getting students from D to C grades
in GCSE. The largest departments | 0:45:49 | 0:45:58 | |
should, my Lords, be devoted to
engineering and the technologies and | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
not to school resits. For these
students, passing GCSE at grade C in | 0:46:01 | 0:46:07 | |
English and maths when they have had
a history of bad teaching and | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
failure in these subjects at school,
is often inappropriate and difficult | 0:46:10 | 0:46:14 | |
and the success rates are very poor,
especially for those with free | 0:46:14 | 0:46:19 | |
school meals entitlement. In some
areas, such as wielded in East | 0:46:19 | 0:46:24 | |
Sussex, where a forest, Maldon and
Ashworth, fewer than 4% of students | 0:46:24 | 0:46:30 | |
with a C in English and maths at the
age of 16 went on to achieve this by | 0:46:30 | 0:46:35 | |
the end of 19. The average success
rate seems to be around 25%. Instead | 0:46:35 | 0:46:42 | |
of these resits, these students
should be allowed to prepare for | 0:46:42 | 0:46:46 | |
vocationally oriented tests of
literacy and numeracy, which will | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
seemed to them more relevant to
their lives and future work. The | 0:46:49 | 0:46:55 | |
government has talked about an
alleviation in the current | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
requirements and perhaps the
Minister, when he closes, will let | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
us know when this is to happen. My
second point is this, an article a | 0:47:01 | 0:47:06 | |
few weeks ago in the Times
educational supplement showed that | 0:47:06 | 0:47:10 | |
the average funds available per
student aged 11-16 in secondary | 0:47:10 | 0:47:18 | |
schools is £5,700 per annum. At
universities, it is £8,500, whereas | 0:47:18 | 0:47:24 | |
for providers of further education,
from ages 16-19, it is only 4500. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:32 | |
This disparity is very worrying and
suggests that the FE sector is | 0:47:32 | 0:47:36 | |
insufficiently funded to deal with
the challenges that it faces at a | 0:47:36 | 0:47:41 | |
time when skills development is at
the heart of the economic agenda. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:46 | |
Perhaps the Minister would comment
on the worrying £1200 yearly gap | 0:47:46 | 0:47:51 | |
between school and further education
funding. Productivity levels in the | 0:47:51 | 0:47:57 | |
UK remains stubbornly low and have
not improved in real terms since the | 0:47:57 | 0:48:04 | |
2008 economic downturn. We are
currently ranked 16 out of 35 OECD | 0:48:04 | 0:48:13 | |
countries in the international
productivity league tables, way | 0:48:13 | 0:48:18 | |
behind our major trading partners
such as the United States, France | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
and Germany. Productivity is of
course a factor of investment but it | 0:48:21 | 0:48:30 | |
is also, most importantly, a factor
of the training of young people in | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
technical skills. And yet, the
economic affairs select committee of | 0:48:33 | 0:48:39 | |
this house identifies this country's
Lower emphasis on technical and | 0:48:39 | 0:48:46 | |
vocational education "As a major
contributing factor towards low | 0:48:46 | 0:48:50 | |
productivity" | 0:48:50 | 0:48:51 | |
contributing factor towards low
productivity". As the Archbishop | 0:48:51 | 0:48:53 | |
reminded us, Brexit will bring great
opportunities and our workforce must | 0:48:53 | 0:48:58 | |
be well prepared to use them. To
conclude, the further education | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
sector in this country must be
better resourced and better used by | 0:49:02 | 0:49:07 | |
government policy if it is to help
this country faced the economic | 0:49:07 | 0:49:12 | |
challenges that the next decade will
surely bring. My Lords, anyone with | 0:49:12 | 0:49:18 | |
their wits about them realise is
that we are in the grip of a social | 0:49:18 | 0:49:23 | |
crisis. Half or more of the country
have been left behind while the rest | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
of Britain went to university,
modernised and globalised and this | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
isn't just about individuals and
families but communities, even whole | 0:49:30 | 0:49:34 | |
towns and cities. The
ultra-respectable financial Times | 0:49:34 | 0:49:38 | |
last month carried a heart-rending
article by Sarah oh Conor, who had | 0:49:38 | 0:49:43 | |
immersed herself in Blackpool and
reported on what GPs there called | 0:49:43 | 0:49:51 | |
SLS, deep poverty, pervasive drugs,
obesity and antidepressant and | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
mental illness in a large, isolated
town, exhibiting alarming signs of | 0:49:54 | 0:50:02 | |
disintegration, including the
largest encampment in Britain of | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
children expelled from school. It is
euphemistically called a pupil | 0:50:05 | 0:50:11 | |
referral unit. Even more
euphemistically, it is run by an | 0:50:11 | 0:50:13 | |
organisation called educational
diversity but it is basically a | 0:50:13 | 0:50:18 | |
dumping ground for 330 children that
schools want nothing to do with. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:24 | |
That is 330, my Lords, expelled from
schools in one northern town and | 0:50:24 | 0:50:29 | |
sent to what is in many respects a
joint training camp for the criminal | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
justice system. -- a giant training
camp. In addition to hundreds | 0:50:32 | 0:50:39 | |
excluded from school day by day for
lower-level misbehaviour or simply | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
roam the streets. Now those of your
Lordships to have the misfortune to | 0:50:42 | 0:50:46 | |
attend party conferences know why we
stopped going to Blackpool. But for | 0:50:46 | 0:50:51 | |
Blackpool today, we'd also Hull,
Grimsby, large parts of the North | 0:50:51 | 0:50:55 | |
and the Midlands, and large towns in
the South including Hastings, Dover | 0:50:55 | 0:51:00 | |
and Folkestone. My Lords, poor
education is at the heart of the | 0:51:00 | 0:51:05 | |
social crisis. Schools and secondary
schools in particular are too often | 0:51:05 | 0:51:10 | |
bleak and low performing in
virtually all of the communities I | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
just mentioned. There are not nearly
enough good teachers. Apprenticeship | 0:51:13 | 0:51:18 | |
numbers, incredibly, are declining,
despite the apprenticeship levy. The | 0:51:18 | 0:51:22 | |
Private schools have separated
themselves ever more from mainstream | 0:51:22 | 0:51:26 | |
society. Only yesterday, Westminster
School, a wholly owned charitable | 0:51:26 | 0:51:31 | |
subsidiary of the Church of England,
which occupies fabulous charitable | 0:51:31 | 0:51:35 | |
premises adjoining Westminster
Abbey, announced it was setting up | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
six elite schools in China. Its
social average idols, should be to | 0:51:38 | 0:51:43 | |
the poor of Bradford, not the
super-rich of Beijing. -- social | 0:51:43 | 0:51:47 | |
outreach goals. We are racked by
controversy over sky-high student | 0:51:47 | 0:51:53 | |
fees and debts run by vice
chancellors who have become | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
latter-day Prince Bishops, paid up
to £500,000 per year and likening | 0:51:55 | 0:52:00 | |
themselves to Maradona and Richard
Branson. My Lords, I don't have time | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
to offer more analysis but let me
get straight to the six things which | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
I believe now need to happen as a
matter of urgency. First, the Prime | 0:52:06 | 0:52:11 | |
Minister should appoint a minister
for good schools, based in Blackpool | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
or Grimsby, with direct
responsibility and funding for | 0:52:15 | 0:52:20 | |
school improvements in areas of very
low educational standards. The | 0:52:20 | 0:52:24 | |
government's policy at the moment...
It has published a list of so-called | 0:52:24 | 0:52:31 | |
opportunity areas, which include
Blackpool but there are only 12 | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
across the entire country. Nothing
much is happening on the ground and | 0:52:34 | 0:52:39 | |
even in those 12, the department's
website can't do much better than | 0:52:39 | 0:52:42 | |
saying that they received"
prioritise access to a support | 0:52:42 | 0:52:47 | |
package" | 0:52:47 | 0:52:48 | |
prioritise access to a support
package". When I was minister for | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
schools a decade ago, I was
specifically Minister for London | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
schools as well and with the
inspirational Tim Brickhouse, led a | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
team to radically improve schools in
the capital, including extensive | 0:52:56 | 0:53:01 | |
funding and planning powers. I
reproach myself not persuading Tony | 0:53:01 | 0:53:05 | |
Blair and Gordon Brown to the same
intensive place -based approach to | 0:53:05 | 0:53:09 | |
other parts of the country, where
school standards were and still are, | 0:53:09 | 0:53:13 | |
my Lords, deplorably low and this
now needs to be done. I sent in our | 0:53:13 | 0:53:20 | |
new minister a man of action and I
am sure he will be a highly | 0:53:20 | 0:53:24 | |
effective minister at mobilising the
considerable resources of Her | 0:53:24 | 0:53:28 | |
Majesty's government from Blackpool
or Grimsby. Secondly, my Lords, we | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
have got to tackle the council
school expulsions which is such an | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
important cause of young lives going
completely off the rails. This is a | 0:53:35 | 0:53:39 | |
difficult issue but after much
consideration, I've come to the | 0:53:39 | 0:53:43 | |
conclusion that the right course is
to forbid schools from expelling | 0:53:43 | 0:53:47 | |
pupils will even temporarily
excluding them unless they have | 0:53:47 | 0:53:52 | |
broken the law. Instead, schools
should be required to make | 0:53:52 | 0:53:56 | |
appropriate on-site provision for
disruptive pupils even if they can't | 0:53:56 | 0:54:02 | |
always be mainstream classrooms and
they should be given extra funding | 0:54:02 | 0:54:04 | |
to do so. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:06 | |
Within a short period the government
should require every civil | 0:54:14 | 0:54:19 | |
organisation including the NHS and
local authorities to recruit, among | 0:54:19 | 0:54:23 | |
new trainees, at least as many
apprentices as graduates. Across the | 0:54:23 | 0:54:27 | |
public and private sectors the new
apprenticeship levy should be tied | 0:54:27 | 0:54:31 | |
by the state. I would suggest to the
prey Minister that the government | 0:54:31 | 0:54:39 | |
immediately grant this power to the
highly capable mayor of the west | 0:54:39 | 0:54:46 | |
Midlands. They should ask him to
report within a year on the national | 0:54:46 | 0:54:51 | |
system for deploying the projected
£3 billion income from the | 0:54:51 | 0:54:55 | |
apprenticeship levy to transform
apprenticeship levy is an quality | 0:54:55 | 0:55:01 | |
nationwide. After decades with
government after government has | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
urged private schools to behave like
the charities they legally are, but | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
see nothing happened yawned
tinkering at the edges, I believe we | 0:55:07 | 0:55:12 | |
need bold action. The easiest way is
to tax private school fees. An | 0:55:12 | 0:55:21 | |
education opportunity tax would
raise two and a half billion pounds. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:28 | |
This could be used to boost teacher
pay in hard to reach areas, the | 0:55:28 | 0:55:39 | |
absolutely indispensable passport to
skilled work and learning and fund | 0:55:39 | 0:55:45 | |
free music and sport training across
state schools, which private schools | 0:55:45 | 0:55:54 | |
pupils and parents take granted. The
right thing to do is cancel the | 0:55:54 | 0:55:58 | |
trebling of tuition fees which took
place in 2010 and reduce them to | 0:55:58 | 0:56:03 | |
around £3000. Reduce the
extortionate interest rate the | 0:56:03 | 0:56:08 | |
government is charging on debt and
cancel the absurd controls on | 0:56:08 | 0:56:12 | |
overseas student numbers which hold
universities back from competing | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
internationally. On the scandal of
senior university pay, | 0:56:14 | 0:56:23 | |
self-regulation is clearly not
working and the one regulators of | 0:56:23 | 0:56:28 | |
the state are toothless, dominated
by the vice chancellors they should | 0:56:28 | 0:56:35 | |
be regulating. The best course is an
independent enquiry to recommend | 0:56:35 | 0:56:40 | |
limits to top pay in universities
and ensure better controls. I cannot | 0:56:40 | 0:56:46 | |
think of anyone better suited to
conduct it than the most Reverend | 0:56:46 | 0:56:51 | |
primate. He runs an organisation
much like a university. He lives in | 0:56:51 | 0:56:58 | |
a palace. Since the Almighty seems
to be the only higher power | 0:56:58 | 0:57:09 | |
recognised he is as well-suited to
sort that. My hero was David | 0:57:09 | 0:57:17 | |
Shepherd of Liverpool. Back in the
1980s, social disintegration was | 0:57:17 | 0:57:26 | |
advancing upon us. It is again today
and we cannot walk by on the other | 0:57:26 | 0:57:32 | |
side. I am very grateful to the most
Reverend primate for introducing | 0:57:32 | 0:57:42 | |
this debate which signalled the
coming of Christmas and can I also | 0:57:42 | 0:57:51 | |
say what a pleasure it is to see
Lord charters in his debate and | 0:57:51 | 0:57:58 | |
speaking in this place. I declare an
interest and you will see why in a | 0:57:58 | 0:58:04 | |
moment. As former chief executive of
the Kings fund. I'm also currently | 0:58:04 | 0:58:16 | |
vice-chair of the Mental Health Act
committee. I want to address what | 0:58:16 | 0:58:21 | |
the most Reverend primate has
described as human flourishing and I | 0:58:21 | 0:58:26 | |
would describe as the emotional
well-being of children. I would like | 0:58:26 | 0:58:30 | |
to congratulate the government on
the report that mental health | 0:58:30 | 0:58:34 | |
training will be available in
schools but would like to ask why | 0:58:34 | 0:58:38 | |
that date cannot be brought forward
given that we know how serious the | 0:58:38 | 0:58:43 | |
issues are around the mental health
and well-being of young people. That | 0:58:43 | 0:58:47 | |
has been alluded to. We know that
over half of mental ill-health | 0:58:47 | 0:59:01 | |
starts before the age of and 75% of
it has developed by the age of 18. | 0:59:01 | 0:59:08 | |
Studies suggest that when problems
are not addressed early there is | 0:59:08 | 0:59:13 | |
often a lifelong trajectory of
mental ill health. Rates of | 0:59:13 | 0:59:20 | |
depression have increased by 70%
over the last 25 years and that | 0:59:20 | 0:59:23 | |
places huge costs on the economy,
let alone on individuals. We know | 0:59:23 | 0:59:28 | |
that supporting mental health in
schools is not just about responding | 0:59:28 | 0:59:33 | |
to side of emerging mental health
problems. We now know helping | 0:59:33 | 0:59:42 | |
children become emotionally literate
as a vital part of any focus and | 0:59:42 | 0:59:47 | |
needs to be part of how we think
about education. You shall teach | 0:59:47 | 0:59:52 | |
your children and they shall teach
there is. In a recent report on | 0:59:52 | 0:59:59 | |
school readiness, school leaders
noted a decline with concerns about | 0:59:59 | 1:00:08 | |
personal, social and emotional
development high on the list. If | 1:00:08 | 1:00:15 | |
children are already starting at a
disadvantage and are unable to catch | 1:00:15 | 1:00:18 | |
up this increases their
vulnerability in terms of their | 1:00:18 | 1:00:22 | |
emotional well-being and their
potential to achieve and succeed. A | 1:00:22 | 1:00:26 | |
lack of social awareness to regulate
emotions underpins many of the | 1:00:26 | 1:00:32 | |
behavioural problems we see in
schools and studies have indicated a | 1:00:32 | 1:00:37 | |
link between better outcomes. We now
we need to do more and emotional | 1:00:37 | 1:00:50 | |
literacy needs to be embedded in
approaches. Over the years there | 1:00:50 | 1:00:57 | |
have been a range of interventions.
There is not a statutory requirement | 1:00:57 | 1:01:08 | |
in state schools. I hope to persuade
the Reverend primer that we should | 1:01:08 | 1:01:14 | |
have multi-faith schools, but many
state schools do not do it yet we | 1:01:14 | 1:01:22 | |
know that it works well. It also
makes a huge difference as part of | 1:01:22 | 1:01:31 | |
the approach. I am indebted to the
place to be, a voluntary | 1:01:31 | 1:01:45 | |
organisation that provides support,
for the education they have given | 1:01:45 | 1:01:49 | |
me. This approach involves not only
teaching children about the nature | 1:01:49 | 1:01:59 | |
of emotional states in themselves
and others but also promoting social | 1:01:59 | 1:02:05 | |
competence and well-being. There's
been a good deal of research | 1:02:05 | 1:02:08 | |
evaluation on how to do this. In the
United States, Scandinavia, | 1:02:08 | 1:02:13 | |
Australia and New Zealand. But less
in the UK. A review several years | 1:02:13 | 1:02:20 | |
ago concluded the most positive
evidence was obtained for programmes | 1:02:20 | 1:02:24 | |
that adopted a whole school
approach, aimed at the promotion of | 1:02:24 | 1:02:31 | |
mental health as opposed to the
prevention of mental illness. Can | 1:02:31 | 1:02:35 | |
the Minister tell this house whether
this is the approach that the mental | 1:02:35 | 1:02:43 | |
health support announced is going to
take and can you tell us he supports | 1:02:43 | 1:02:50 | |
investing in a curriculum that
values emotional understanding, | 1:02:50 | 1:02:55 | |
communication and problem-solving
with regular and well delivered | 1:02:55 | 1:02:58 | |
lessons addressing emotional
awareness and understanding. Of | 1:02:58 | 1:03:02 | |
course, we need teachers, school
league leaders and governors to | 1:03:02 | 1:03:08 | |
promote a healthy school and I pay
tribute. I am the mother of a | 1:03:08 | 1:03:16 | |
teacher. We need them to foster warm
relationships, peach autonomy and | 1:03:16 | 1:03:20 | |
maintain clarity. We need them to
prevent bullying and identify those | 1:03:20 | 1:03:28 | |
with problems early. Government and
educational leaders need to give a | 1:03:28 | 1:03:35 | |
steer in this direction. I hope the
Lord and Minister will be able to | 1:03:35 | 1:03:39 | |
tell this post that this is the
approach both governments approach | 1:03:39 | 1:03:41 | |
and will foster. And that emotional
literacy and education is part of | 1:03:41 | 1:03:48 | |
what is needed to be provided. I
begin by declaring my interest as a | 1:03:48 | 1:04:01 | |
patron of marriage foundation and
former governor of 21 years of | 1:04:01 | 1:04:04 | |
experience. I'm privileged to follow
my colleague, whose sentiments I | 1:04:04 | 1:04:11 | |
share. The marriage foundation found
that family breakdown is the biggest | 1:04:11 | 1:04:17 | |
factor behind the UK's mental health
crisis and more than a third of | 1:04:17 | 1:04:23 | |
children reported bad mental health
with only a fifth with parents who | 1:04:23 | 1:04:30 | |
are still together. Only half of
today's teenagers will marry but | 1:04:30 | 1:04:37 | |
lots more will aspire to it. The
report found children with married | 1:04:37 | 1:04:50 | |
parents had reduced rates of mental
health problems. The marriage | 1:04:50 | 1:04:56 | |
foundation's research has found a
child born today in the UK is only a | 1:04:56 | 1:05:01 | |
50-50 chance of being with both
their parents by the age of 15. They | 1:05:01 | 1:05:10 | |
are more likely to have a smartphone
than a father at home. This think | 1:05:10 | 1:05:15 | |
tank commented that mental health
problems during childhood cast a | 1:05:15 | 1:05:22 | |
long shadow over future life chances
affecting work, relationships and | 1:05:22 | 1:05:28 | |
well-being into adult food. Children
need two parents committed to each | 1:05:28 | 1:05:34 | |
other in a stable relationship. The
marriage foundation believes early | 1:05:34 | 1:05:40 | |
intervention means encouraging
couples to make a clear commitment | 1:05:40 | 1:05:42 | |
to their future together before
having children. This, they believe, | 1:05:42 | 1:05:47 | |
is the very best way to give their
future children the best possible | 1:05:47 | 1:05:52 | |
chance of a happy and healthy
upbringing which, of course, has an | 1:05:52 | 1:05:57 | |
enormous benefit to society. I would
go even further. I believe to be | 1:05:57 | 1:06:03 | |
genuinely effective, early
intervention means equipping | 1:06:03 | 1:06:10 | |
children, with sufficient knowledge
and understanding of two crucial | 1:06:10 | 1:06:16 | |
points. The first is the importance
of making a commitment to a partner | 1:06:16 | 1:06:20 | |
before this phrasing is decided, and
working on the relationship. I've | 1:06:20 | 1:06:31 | |
seen, first-hand, whilst practising
as a divorce lawyer over four | 1:06:31 | 1:06:37 | |
decades, the family breakdown of
children. I've worked in the Law | 1:06:37 | 1:06:47 | |
Centre and private practice. Marital
breakdown is classless and | 1:06:47 | 1:06:53 | |
faithless. The effect on many
children is just devastating. It is | 1:06:53 | 1:07:02 | |
all too common crime romp the many
diverse people I've represented that | 1:07:02 | 1:07:06 | |
the marriage breakdown was the
result of simply marrying the wrong | 1:07:06 | 1:07:20 | |
person, someone with whom they were
fundamentally incompatible from the | 1:07:20 | 1:07:23 | |
outset. Putting on my school
governors that I looked into what | 1:07:23 | 1:07:31 | |
schools do to educate children about
the most important decision they are | 1:07:31 | 1:07:35 | |
ever going to make. Choosing a life
partner and raising a family. It | 1:07:35 | 1:07:45 | |
plays a vital role in the national
curriculum. School teaching tend to | 1:07:45 | 1:07:50 | |
specialise in the dangers of drug
and alcohol abuse. Sex education and | 1:07:50 | 1:07:54 | |
career advancement. They are
obviously very important. There | 1:07:54 | 1:08:03 | |
seems to be an enormous vacuum, even
in the private sector, and a real | 1:08:03 | 1:08:10 | |
lost opportunity for education
tomorrow's parents about | 1:08:10 | 1:08:16 | |
relationships. This is important for
children. They have nothing to | 1:08:16 | 1:08:24 | |
emulate and no domestic print to
encourage them. The endemic pattern | 1:08:24 | 1:08:33 | |
of family breakdown must be broken.
A child born in the UK only has a | 1:08:33 | 1:08:38 | |
50-50 chance of being with both
their parents by the age of 15. | 1:08:38 | 1:08:47 | |
I believe early intervention is the
best. Educating our school-aged | 1:08:47 | 1:08:52 | |
children in an attempt to cure this
and emotional illiteracy is the best | 1:08:52 | 1:08:55 | |
way to equip them to help them make
a wise or at least informed life | 1:08:55 | 1:09:01 | |
partner choice on how to work on
staying together afterwards. The | 1:09:01 | 1:09:06 | |
RSPCA has been sending out its
seasonal message. For more than 35 | 1:09:06 | 1:09:14 | |
years, a dog is for life, and not
just for Christmas. And yet there is | 1:09:14 | 1:09:20 | |
no such compelling message relating
to the commitment of marriage. In | 1:09:20 | 1:09:26 | |
this context, I have sponsored a
three-year research project at the | 1:09:26 | 1:09:30 | |
University of Exeter where both my
husband and I attended, to try and | 1:09:30 | 1:09:34 | |
discover what lessons can be learned
by children in a school context | 1:09:34 | 1:09:39 | |
about relationships. For example,
what makes a good marriage, and what | 1:09:39 | 1:09:44 | |
is likely to make a bad one. This
has been done with a view to | 1:09:44 | 1:09:48 | |
providing material by video or a nap
to be introduced into the national | 1:09:48 | 1:09:55 | |
school curriculum. I urge the
Government to seriously consider the | 1:09:55 | 1:09:57 | |
benefits of introducing such advice
in its structure, as a mandatory | 1:09:57 | 1:10:01 | |
part of a child's education, to be
rolled out nationwide. If this can | 1:10:01 | 1:10:06 | |
encourage some of our country's
future parents to avoid disastrous | 1:10:06 | 1:10:11 | |
and unhappy unions with fallout for
their children, it will be money | 1:10:11 | 1:10:16 | |
well spent. It is my humble view
that prevention is always better | 1:10:16 | 1:10:20 | |
than here, and to bring what is what
happens when is fallout is inferior | 1:10:20 | 1:10:26 | |
to making a truly well-informed and
educated decision in the first | 1:10:26 | 1:10:29 | |
place. It is my dream that through
this particular piece of education, | 1:10:29 | 1:10:33 | |
a contribution will be made to a
flourishing and skilled society. I | 1:10:33 | 1:10:41 | |
would like to conclude by thanking
the most Reverend Archbishop of | 1:10:41 | 1:10:43 | |
Canterbury, for bringing about this
debate, to enable a light to be | 1:10:43 | 1:10:47 | |
shone in this neglected and
unfashionable area of social policy. | 1:10:47 | 1:10:55 | |
My Lords, I have spent much of my
life in public speaking in the | 1:10:55 | 1:10:58 | |
context of universities, and if you
are lucky or you did a good job, the | 1:10:58 | 1:11:04 | |
students would look up to you like
that. Just recently, it has all | 1:11:04 | 1:11:10 | |
changed. You look at a lecture
audience now, half the audience are | 1:11:10 | 1:11:15 | |
looking down at their devices, and I
did notice the right reverend prime | 1:11:15 | 1:11:22 | |
it, if I can put it this way,
fiddling with his iPhone quite a bit | 1:11:22 | 1:11:27 | |
in the last little while. This
sounds like a trivial observation, | 1:11:27 | 1:11:35 | |
but this is truly fundamental. We
are right on the edge of some of the | 1:11:35 | 1:11:41 | |
biggest changes that have ever
transformed human society, happening | 1:11:41 | 1:11:44 | |
much more quickly than ever before,
and happening more globally than | 1:11:44 | 1:11:48 | |
ever before. With some help from the
outside world, it must be said, | 1:11:48 | 1:12:00 | |
driven by the digital revolution.
And I was very pleased that the | 1:12:00 | 1:12:08 | |
right reverend Primate placed so
much emphasis on this. If we cannot | 1:12:08 | 1:12:14 | |
compete in this area at all, our
levels of education will be dead in | 1:12:14 | 1:12:19 | |
the water internationally. SHOUTING.
With some continuing disturbance | 1:12:19 | 1:12:33 | |
from outside. It is important to
understand, without being too | 1:12:33 | 1:12:37 | |
didactic about it, what the digital
revolution is, it is not the | 1:12:37 | 1:12:44 | |
Internet, it is not robotics, it is
not supercomputing power, it is all | 1:12:44 | 1:12:48 | |
of those things bound up together in
this huge rush of change going | 1:12:48 | 1:12:52 | |
through our lives. It is already
transforming universities, my Lords. | 1:12:52 | 1:13:00 | |
One of the most notable examples of
that is the emergence of so-called | 1:13:00 | 1:13:12 | |
MOOCs, Mass open online courses.
They are amazing. They reach | 1:13:12 | 1:13:19 | |
millions of people across the world.
People can take part in seminars. | 1:13:19 | 1:13:26 | |
You can take part in an online
seminar with students from Africa | 1:13:26 | 1:13:30 | |
while you are sitting in London, for
example, and those courses for free. | 1:13:30 | 1:13:35 | |
So there is a huge tension here
between the emergence of free mass | 1:13:35 | 1:13:42 | |
courses like that, and the huge fees
that are being charged in full-time | 1:13:42 | 1:13:47 | |
higher education. That tension will
be very difficult to resolve, and I | 1:13:47 | 1:13:55 | |
think the noble Lord Adonis was
quite right to draw attention to it. | 1:13:55 | 1:13:59 | |
The issue for me is not vice
Chancellor's salaries, which is | 1:13:59 | 1:14:04 | |
marginal, it is the wholescale
marketisation of higher education, | 1:14:04 | 1:14:09 | |
with a time bomb of student debt,
with no thought to the future and no | 1:14:09 | 1:14:13 | |
thought to the transformation of
labour markets which, if I get time | 1:14:13 | 1:14:17 | |
in my six minutes, I want to briefly
mentioned. What is happening, my | 1:14:17 | 1:14:24 | |
Lords, in universities, is also
happening in schools. Schools are | 1:14:24 | 1:14:28 | |
going to change just as
dramatically, as for example | 1:14:28 | 1:14:33 | |
businesses have changed, over the
past 15 to 20 years. Let me just | 1:14:33 | 1:14:36 | |
very quickly mention some of those
changes already happening. First of | 1:14:36 | 1:14:44 | |
all, traditional style teaching, the
teacher standing in front of the | 1:14:44 | 1:14:48 | |
class, disciplined children sitting
at desks, that still exists, that | 1:14:48 | 1:14:52 | |
will go on. But alongside that, even
more importantly these days, | 1:14:52 | 1:14:58 | |
children huddled round computers.
They are in groups. It is no longer | 1:14:58 | 1:15:01 | |
a single didactic model with the
teacher. The teacher is no longer | 1:15:01 | 1:15:06 | |
the repository of all knowledge
because all of human knowledge is | 1:15:06 | 1:15:10 | |
there, in the device that you have
in your pocket, or you have sort of | 1:15:10 | 1:15:14 | |
hidden away under the desk. So
already, the structure of schools is | 1:15:14 | 1:15:21 | |
already changing. Second, you have
radically different models emerging | 1:15:21 | 1:15:25 | |
around the world, and even though
they are in their early days, they | 1:15:25 | 1:15:29 | |
are in some sense the future, which
are like collaborative models of | 1:15:29 | 1:15:33 | |
education. For example, in the US,
you have the home-schooling | 1:15:33 | 1:15:37 | |
movement. There are 2 million
children in the US who are schooled | 1:15:37 | 1:15:44 | |
at home, not legal here, but legal
there. This is growing apace. This | 1:15:44 | 1:15:50 | |
is mostly done digitally. It is
often done in collaboration with | 1:15:50 | 1:15:54 | |
schools, so the idea that schools
are a fixed place will tend to break | 1:15:54 | 1:15:58 | |
down, just as happened in the
workplace. It is already happening | 1:15:58 | 1:16:03 | |
actually in education across the
world, even if we are just in early | 1:16:03 | 1:16:07 | |
phases of it. Third, as other noble
Lords have mentioned, the digital | 1:16:07 | 1:16:12 | |
revolution has a very dark side, and
it has to be an fundamental part of | 1:16:12 | 1:16:26 | |
primary education, secondary
education, to allow children to deal | 1:16:26 | 1:16:28 | |
with this dark side. I don't know if
you know this, but it came up in our | 1:16:28 | 1:16:31 | |
AI select committee, or someone
mentioned it and someone went to | 1:16:31 | 1:16:33 | |
look tough on the Internet, you can
buy an infant's potty with a bracket | 1:16:33 | 1:16:37 | |
on it where you can put an iPad for
a newly born infant. Well, it is | 1:16:37 | 1:16:46 | |
supposed to get a laugh, but it is
really frightening, because a | 1:16:46 | 1:16:52 | |
neuroscientist described the effect
of iPhones and iPad is on children | 1:16:52 | 1:16:56 | |
as crack cocaine for children. It is
so addictive and it is so | 1:16:56 | 1:17:01 | |
compulsive. And all of human
knowledge bad and good is there. It | 1:17:01 | 1:17:06 | |
is a huge challenge for education, I
think. It must start early on, it | 1:17:06 | 1:17:12 | |
must start with parents but it must
be embedded in primary school | 1:17:12 | 1:17:16 | |
education as well. Finally, we have
to look again at the usual things | 1:17:16 | 1:17:23 | |
said about lifelong learning. It is
a bit crass and simple. Digital | 1:17:23 | 1:17:29 | |
schools are not really relevant,
they are relevant to people working | 1:17:29 | 1:17:33 | |
in the digital industries, but
mostly this will be a process of | 1:17:33 | 1:17:39 | |
deskilling as happened in other
areas. Un-learning is just as | 1:17:39 | 1:17:48 | |
important as learning and we need a
completely different model about | 1:17:48 | 1:17:52 | |
what the unfolding of a child and
adult's life will be in this | 1:17:52 | 1:17:57 | |
imminent, well, already here future.
My Lords, I'm very grateful for | 1:17:57 | 1:18:04 | |
opportunity of speaking about
education, which we know is the | 1:18:04 | 1:18:13 | |
lodestone of all of the prosperity
of our society. I would like to | 1:18:13 | 1:18:19 | |
describe an ecosystem, a very
interesting ecosystem, it is called | 1:18:19 | 1:18:24 | |
poverty. And what it takes to
prosper is it takes the failure of | 1:18:24 | 1:18:33 | |
education to be written so large
that of the 9 million children that | 1:18:33 | 1:18:37 | |
are in school at the moment, we are
going to be writing off 3 million of | 1:18:37 | 1:18:45 | |
them, because 37% of our
schoolchildren goes through school | 1:18:45 | 1:18:49 | |
and come out the other end, and you
would never know that they had been | 1:18:49 | 1:18:53 | |
to school. It is a very interesting
thing, because then if you go to the | 1:18:53 | 1:19:01 | |
A&E department across the road, and
talk to the doctors and talk to the | 1:19:01 | 1:19:05 | |
patients, you will find that many,
many of those people, in fact, the | 1:19:05 | 1:19:10 | |
vast majority of them, will be
people who have failed at school. If | 1:19:10 | 1:19:16 | |
you go to the cheap jobs, if you go
to the £6, £7, £8, even £10 jobs, it | 1:19:16 | 1:19:26 | |
will be people who have not done
very well at school. If we spend £40 | 1:19:26 | 1:19:33 | |
billion a year on our kids, that is
about 13 billion, is it not, 13 | 1:19:33 | 1:19:39 | |
billion that we just throw away
every year. This is a recipe for | 1:19:39 | 1:19:44 | |
disaster. If we want to go into our
prisons, we can go into our prisons | 1:19:44 | 1:19:52 | |
and find that 80% of them will be
people who have failed at school. I | 1:19:52 | 1:19:57 | |
know this from my own experience. I
have to declaring interests, I am a | 1:19:57 | 1:20:02 | |
failed child who had an enormous
amount of money spent on him when he | 1:20:02 | 1:20:07 | |
got nicked and put into boys prisons
and places like that, whereas I said | 1:20:07 | 1:20:12 | |
in the House before, where they
spent twice the amount of money on | 1:20:12 | 1:20:16 | |
me that they would spend on sending
you to Eton. You have this really | 1:20:16 | 1:20:20 | |
weird thing. After the Second World
War, a kind of inept socialism came | 1:20:20 | 1:20:30 | |
in, to join the inept capitalism
that we run, because our capitalism | 1:20:30 | 1:20:36 | |
is a poor underinvested capitalism,
and our socialism is equally inept, | 1:20:36 | 1:20:41 | |
so we have got these two functions
going on at the same time. We have a | 1:20:41 | 1:20:47 | |
society which is an ecosystem for
social failure. We don't have a | 1:20:47 | 1:20:53 | |
bullish capitalism. We don't invest
our money in new businesses, we | 1:20:53 | 1:21:01 | |
spend 87% of all money that is led
by banks goes in the buying and | 1:21:01 | 1:21:06 | |
selling of property. We have this
really perverse world where we don't | 1:21:06 | 1:21:13 | |
educate our bosses, our ruling
class, if you like to call them, our | 1:21:13 | 1:21:20 | |
property classes, into taking more
risks with their money will stop | 1:21:20 | 1:21:23 | |
they would rather put it into
property. They would rather put it | 1:21:23 | 1:21:28 | |
into getting thousands of people
flipping hamburgers. We are in this | 1:21:28 | 1:21:33 | |
really strange self-defeating world.
It's interesting that when we joined | 1:21:33 | 1:21:39 | |
the European Common Market in 1973,
our productivity was about 30% | 1:21:39 | 1:21:48 | |
behind Germany. It is now 35%. At
that time, our productivity, we were | 1:21:48 | 1:21:55 | |
ahead of the French, but now we are
behind the French. We were well | 1:21:55 | 1:22:00 | |
behind the Italians and now we are
almost about 10% behind them. All of | 1:22:00 | 1:22:06 | |
these kind of strange things all
come together to produce this really | 1:22:06 | 1:22:11 | |
weird world where we produce
underachieving children who fill up | 1:22:11 | 1:22:18 | |
our social security holes, who fill
up our prisons, who fill up our A&E | 1:22:18 | 1:22:24 | |
departments, and we are sitting on
this ecosystem, and we are talking | 1:22:24 | 1:22:30 | |
about it, but is there a government
brave enough to stand up and say, | 1:22:30 | 1:22:35 | |
that whatever amount of experiments,
whatever amount of projects, however | 1:22:35 | 1:22:44 | |
we rearrange the budget, there needs
to be an enormous, an enormous | 1:22:44 | 1:22:51 | |
investment to be made in getting us
out of this situation. I don't want | 1:22:51 | 1:22:55 | |
to be too dramatic, but I'm sorry I
can't help it! | 1:22:55 | 1:23:00 | |
LAUGHTER
But you look at what happened in | 1:23:00 | 1:23:07 | |
1939. Between 1939 and 1945, we
borrowed the future. And we only | 1:23:07 | 1:23:14 | |
stopped paying off for that future
in 2006, when the man signed the | 1:23:14 | 1:23:21 | |
last cheque to the American
government over the lend lease. We | 1:23:21 | 1:23:24 | |
borrowed the future to actually have
a future. Unfortunately, unless we | 1:23:24 | 1:23:32 | |
declare war on our lack of
education, on the strange way that | 1:23:32 | 1:23:39 | |
we think we can leave things to
market forces, you look at the most | 1:23:39 | 1:23:43 | |
successful economy in the last 100
years, the German economy. The | 1:23:43 | 1:23:49 | |
German economy was established in
the 19th century by mass investment | 1:23:49 | 1:23:54 | |
by governments, and actually, if you
look at the United States and all of | 1:23:54 | 1:23:59 | |
the new technology, it has all grown
out of stuff that was developed by | 1:23:59 | 1:24:04 | |
government money given to
universities. There all these sorts, | 1:24:04 | 1:24:08 | |
we really need to wake up to this
bell-ringing, this toxic belt. And | 1:24:08 | 1:24:15 | |
that is, if we don't actually grab
the opportunity, we will be having | 1:24:15 | 1:24:21 | |
this discussion in ten, 20 years'
time, and we will be sent, isn't it | 1:24:21 | 1:24:25 | |
a pity that we have so minute poor
people, that we have so many people | 1:24:25 | 1:24:29 | |
failing at schools. Unless we do the
one thing that I would suggest that | 1:24:29 | 1:24:34 | |
we do, which is to plan, have an
enormous plan on how we going to get | 1:24:34 | 1:24:39 | |
out of the Greece, where are the
problems that have come this far, | 1:24:39 | 1:24:44 | |
what are we going to do about it, we
need some really big strategising | 1:24:44 | 1:24:48 | |
and that is what I suggest we do.
Thank you. | 1:24:48 | 1:24:55 | |
My Lords, many of us will have noted
the report of the commission on | 1:24:55 | 1:24:59 | |
social mobility list last week with
the sobering analysis of Britain's | 1:24:59 | 1:25:05 | |
alienate it and marginal
communities. It documents the | 1:25:05 | 1:25:14 | |
widening gap in attainment with the
worst cold spots for social mobility | 1:25:14 | 1:25:18 | |
now being in former industrial towns
and coastal communities. It is | 1:25:18 | 1:25:24 | |
striking that the map of low
attainment and high levels of young | 1:25:24 | 1:25:27 | |
people not in employment matches so
closely with those areas which voted | 1:25:27 | 1:25:33 | |
heavily to leave the European Union.
These areas, the report concludes, | 1:25:33 | 1:25:39 | |
feel left behind because they are.
They feel the benefits of | 1:25:39 | 1:25:45 | |
globalisation passed them by. We've
become a more socially divided | 1:25:45 | 1:25:54 | |
country, not so much along ethnic
lines but cities and suburbs and the | 1:25:54 | 1:26:00 | |
white working class. Sections of our
media have written these citizens | 1:26:00 | 1:26:10 | |
off as a feckless underclass.
Furthermore, part of the dependence | 1:26:10 | 1:26:18 | |
on immigration has come from
employers prevalent for recruiting | 1:26:18 | 1:26:26 | |
motivated workers from abroad as the
harder task of training and | 1:26:26 | 1:26:32 | |
educating local people. Better
quality education will not be enough | 1:26:32 | 1:26:36 | |
on its own to bring these depressed
and divided communities back into | 1:26:36 | 1:26:42 | |
harmony with the rest of Britain. We
need a social mobility commission | 1:26:42 | 1:26:47 | |
with a more redistributive approach
to spreading housing products across | 1:26:47 | 1:26:58 | |
our country. We need reinvestment in
transport links outside the | 1:26:58 | 1:27:06 | |
south-east and we need locally
available finance to support the | 1:27:06 | 1:27:09 | |
growth of local enterprises. It goes
without saying of course that Brexit | 1:27:09 | 1:27:15 | |
will do nothing to better their
chances and is likely to make their | 1:27:15 | 1:27:19 | |
situation worse. But education and
training is essential to social and | 1:27:19 | 1:27:24 | |
economic recovery. Early years
education is the most important | 1:27:24 | 1:27:29 | |
priority for children from poor and
vulnerable families, without the | 1:27:29 | 1:27:38 | |
support of a family group. I'm proud
the Liberal Democrats introduced the | 1:27:38 | 1:27:44 | |
pupil premium, which teachers tell
me has made a real difference. I | 1:27:44 | 1:27:49 | |
regret that the Conservatives cut
back on the sure start programme. I | 1:27:49 | 1:28:06 | |
say to the Labour Party that
increasing public spending on the | 1:28:06 | 1:28:10 | |
50% who do not go to university all
the way through from nurses to | 1:28:10 | 1:28:17 | |
apprenticeships, should be a higher
priority than cutting fees on | 1:28:17 | 1:28:22 | |
university students. I dissent from
my party's tuition fee line and hold | 1:28:22 | 1:28:32 | |
the same view today. Any progressive
politicians should put improving the | 1:28:32 | 1:28:39 | |
chances of the less privileged
first. There are many other measures | 1:28:39 | 1:28:44 | |
which should be pressing to
encourage children from these | 1:28:44 | 1:28:49 | |
communities to learn and gain life
skills and employment skills. There | 1:28:49 | 1:28:54 | |
should be the feeling that they are
included in our national community. | 1:28:54 | 1:29:00 | |
Teacher turnover is high. We need
not only to grant them more respect | 1:29:00 | 1:29:07 | |
but also grant them more. We should
extend that by writing off student | 1:29:07 | 1:29:18 | |
loans at a progressive rate. School
partnerships are clearly important | 1:29:18 | 1:29:26 | |
in encouraging teachers to stay and
in lifting performance. | 1:29:26 | 1:29:30 | |
Multi-academy trusts are one way to
provide such partnerships but local | 1:29:30 | 1:29:34 | |
authorities should also have a wider
role in encouraging schools to work | 1:29:34 | 1:29:39 | |
together. The Independent school
sectors should also do more to | 1:29:39 | 1:29:42 | |
encourage partnerships, to justify
the public benefits to which they | 1:29:42 | 1:29:47 | |
are obligated. I've seen some
excellent partnerships in action and | 1:29:47 | 1:29:52 | |
I'm conscious best practice does not
extend across much of the | 1:29:52 | 1:29:58 | |
independent sector. Schools do not
operate all year round. | 1:29:58 | 1:30:03 | |
Disadvantaged pupils fall back every
summer. Liberal Democrat councillors | 1:30:03 | 1:30:08 | |
have been running a summer school
for children between primary and | 1:30:08 | 1:30:11 | |
secondary over the past two years.
We need both non-governmental groups | 1:30:11 | 1:30:24 | |
and local authorities to provide
more opportunities for disadvantaged | 1:30:24 | 1:30:27 | |
children out of school hours and
school tones to widen their | 1:30:27 | 1:30:33 | |
perspectives and raise their
aspirations. Middle-class children | 1:30:33 | 1:30:36 | |
benefit from a range of out of
school activities from an early age. | 1:30:36 | 1:30:42 | |
Working-class children miss out on
that. I was saddened to discover | 1:30:42 | 1:30:46 | |
that the visit to the Lake District
was for some children, the first | 1:30:46 | 1:30:52 | |
time in their life they had been
outside Bradford. Low aspiration and | 1:30:52 | 1:31:01 | |
low expectation. The transition is a
vital aspect of successful secondary | 1:31:01 | 1:31:07 | |
expectation. Some employers work
closely with local schools to | 1:31:07 | 1:31:13 | |
provide work experience and the
prospect of training. Best practice | 1:31:13 | 1:31:16 | |
does not extend far enough across
the country. Further education | 1:31:16 | 1:31:22 | |
colleges have been, as Lord
Lingfield and Baroness Garden have | 1:31:22 | 1:31:31 | |
said, financially squeezed and
sidelines. We need to strengthen the | 1:31:31 | 1:31:34 | |
idea of continuing education which
means strengthening the role of | 1:31:34 | 1:31:39 | |
further education colleges. I wish I
could believe that the | 1:31:39 | 1:31:45 | |
apprenticeship scheme will help in
this respect but much of what I've | 1:31:45 | 1:31:48 | |
read says it will fail to provide
the most crucial element which is | 1:31:48 | 1:31:52 | |
the path into skilled work for young
people. The Church of England | 1:31:52 | 1:31:56 | |
already please a constructive part
in limiting this but I recall the | 1:31:56 | 1:32:04 | |
faith in the city initiative which I
saw as an appeal to middle-class | 1:32:04 | 1:32:10 | |
committees. Jack and schools have a
good record in providing more than | 1:32:10 | 1:32:17 | |
just the national syllabus and in
providing is children in schools | 1:32:17 | 1:32:20 | |
with a wider sense of community. I
thank the diocese of London for the | 1:32:20 | 1:32:26 | |
support he gives to the musical
education charity which I cheered | 1:32:26 | 1:32:29 | |
for 12 years which takes singing
into schools that have lost their | 1:32:29 | 1:32:35 | |
music teachers. The Church of
England and many other institutions | 1:32:35 | 1:32:46 | |
have much to contribute to repairing
the weaknesses of our countries | 1:32:46 | 1:32:53 | |
education and rebuilding an
inclusive society. The prime | 1:32:53 | 1:32:57 | |
responsibility lies with public
institutions, the state and the | 1:32:57 | 1:33:01 | |
Treasury to invest and rebuild a
flourishing and inclusive national | 1:33:01 | 1:33:08 | |
community. I am grateful to my most
honourable friend for this | 1:33:08 | 1:33:14 | |
opportunity. I will address a
crucial place of education in | 1:33:14 | 1:33:21 | |
providing value and enabling every
member of our society to contribute | 1:33:21 | 1:33:24 | |
and flourish. We must continue to
develop curriculum to suit our | 1:33:24 | 1:33:32 | |
developing industrial and commercial
needs. This means we must work to | 1:33:32 | 1:33:37 | |
nurture and support children and
young people so they may be | 1:33:37 | 1:33:40 | |
employable author on the grounds of
their skills and there are rich and | 1:33:40 | 1:33:44 | |
steadfast character. Giving them the
support and foundations for good | 1:33:44 | 1:33:51 | |
mental health that will be necessary
throughout their lives. We are | 1:33:51 | 1:33:57 | |
currently experiencing a period of
great uncertainty, politically, | 1:33:57 | 1:34:01 | |
financially, morally. Whilst we may
not know what things might look like | 1:34:01 | 1:34:09 | |
in March 2019, we do know that we
must continue to prepare for the | 1:34:09 | 1:34:14 | |
longer term to meet the demands of
our changing landscape and we are | 1:34:14 | 1:34:19 | |
ready to face the competitive
markets which we will engage with. | 1:34:19 | 1:34:24 | |
People must be skilled, adaptable
and resilient. This will only be | 1:34:24 | 1:34:31 | |
possible if we tackle inequality of
access to the acquisition of life | 1:34:31 | 1:34:37 | |
and technical skills. In equality of
access is the scourge of our | 1:34:37 | 1:34:40 | |
generation. I implore the commitment
to social mobility of the Secretary | 1:34:40 | 1:34:50 | |
of State for Education but we're not
doing anywhere near enough. The | 1:34:50 | 1:34:57 | |
report that came out inspired me.
The church continues with other | 1:34:57 | 1:35:12 | |
institutions to be passionate about
seeking to reach out to the most | 1:35:12 | 1:35:23 | |
excluded in the home, school and the
workplace. I agree about the | 1:35:23 | 1:35:32 | |
challenges faced by schools in some
of our northern towns. I was | 1:35:32 | 1:35:38 | |
visiting schools in Blackpool
earlier this year and I saw the | 1:35:38 | 1:35:40 | |
challenges they face. Severe
deprivation does not happen in urban | 1:35:40 | 1:35:48 | |
areas but also coastal towns and
remote rural areas where I live. | 1:35:48 | 1:36:02 | |
Disadvantages accumulate. Children
living in poverty or family debt are | 1:36:02 | 1:36:08 | |
more likely to experience mental and
physical health deficits as well as | 1:36:08 | 1:36:13 | |
an impoverished life of imagination.
All these factors have an impact. We | 1:36:13 | 1:36:22 | |
must seek out those in needs so that
we can ensure no member of society | 1:36:22 | 1:36:33 | |
is hampered by their background. The
Church of England is a recognised | 1:36:33 | 1:36:45 | |
partner in this policy. Her
Majesty's government is working hard | 1:36:45 | 1:36:55 | |
to develop curriculum and
qualifications which meet our future | 1:36:55 | 1:36:58 | |
needs, most notably the introduction
of levels and apprenticeships. I am | 1:36:58 | 1:37:09 | |
thrilled that this is the first
school to be an improved training | 1:37:09 | 1:37:19 | |
provider. The Church of England is
committed to opening more secondary | 1:37:19 | 1:37:22 | |
schools like in Huntington, to take
the model to the next stage of a | 1:37:22 | 1:37:30 | |
single campus which will provide
academic and simple pathways which | 1:37:30 | 1:37:38 | |
we have created to run. We aim to
foster a student focused, | 1:37:38 | 1:37:45 | |
economically ambitious approach to
education but it must also be | 1:37:45 | 1:37:48 | |
prosthetic enough to equip young
people foreign agile and robust 50 | 1:37:48 | 1:37:53 | |
or 60 years of productivity in a
global setting not yet visible to | 1:37:53 | 1:38:00 | |
us. However, education is not simply
about imparting skills or knowledge. | 1:38:00 | 1:38:10 | |
This is fundamentally about
character and creating an | 1:38:10 | 1:38:14 | |
educational environment which goes
beyond the metrics of a core | 1:38:14 | 1:38:18 | |
curriculum. We need a holistic
attention to each individual child | 1:38:18 | 1:38:23 | |
and young person, a large part of it
needs to include being attentive to | 1:38:23 | 1:38:29 | |
their mental health needs. The
arrival of the green paper is | 1:38:29 | 1:38:38 | |
timely. The government is committed
to ensuring every school and college | 1:38:38 | 1:38:44 | |
will be is able to play a vital role
in identifying mental health needs | 1:38:44 | 1:38:51 | |
at an early stage and promoting
mental health practices from the | 1:38:51 | 1:38:55 | |
very beginning of a child's
education. I regularly visit schools | 1:38:55 | 1:39:00 | |
at the Phoenix Centre, where they
can continue their education but | 1:39:00 | 1:39:06 | |
they are in hospital receiving
treatment for self harming and | 1:39:06 | 1:39:10 | |
eating disorders. It's a constant
pain to me to see these children, | 1:39:10 | 1:39:16 | |
whose needs might have been met
sooner, the work of a disadvantaged | 1:39:16 | 1:39:24 | |
coastal community is a perfect
example of a school engaging with | 1:39:24 | 1:39:28 | |
mental health needs at an early
stage. As part of the Church of | 1:39:28 | 1:39:33 | |
England's education officers
national project, Saint Katharine is | 1:39:33 | 1:39:39 | |
running a project to help children
overcome mental health disadvantage | 1:39:39 | 1:39:43 | |
through targeted support for
children with mental health needs. | 1:39:43 | 1:39:47 | |
It is very easy to dwell on the
negative spot the Church of | 1:39:47 | 1:39:51 | |
England's vision for education is
rooted in hope, hope offered by | 1:39:51 | 1:39:57 | |
Christ to us all, and the
opportunity that all of us may have | 1:39:57 | 1:40:00 | |
for a fresh start and the full
dignity of humanity in him. | 1:40:00 | 1:40:08 | |
We do not despair in the face of
deprivation and we hope to tackle it | 1:40:08 | 1:40:12 | |
head on and make a difference to the
lives and confidence of young people | 1:40:12 | 1:40:17 | |
and their families.
We're all very grateful for the | 1:40:17 | 1:40:20 | |
primate to the initiation of this
debate. Could I have my personal | 1:40:20 | 1:40:23 | |
vote of thanks on behalf of the
Anglican Church for what they have | 1:40:23 | 1:40:26 | |
done for me? We were evacuated
during the water Southport, and they | 1:40:26 | 1:40:32 | |
went to a Church of England primary
school, Holy Trinity, next to Holy | 1:40:32 | 1:40:38 | |
Trinity Church, at the end of the
street, and it was a wonderful | 1:40:38 | 1:40:44 | |
education. Red brick yard with
concrete all around, and last stuck | 1:40:44 | 1:40:48 | |
in the top to stop people coming
over. That was our security. The | 1:40:48 | 1:40:53 | |
more challenging students would
climb up and shipped their bits of | 1:40:53 | 1:40:56 | |
glass away! It was a good, basic
education, learning tables by heart, | 1:40:56 | 1:41:01 | |
learning poetry by heart, tests
every turn. They say they are | 1:41:01 | 1:41:04 | |
oppressive, but I had them every
term at a Church of England primary | 1:41:04 | 1:41:09 | |
School, and it was the basis of my
education, so I thank you for that. | 1:41:09 | 1:41:13 | |
I am personally not in favour of any
more single faith schools. The | 1:41:13 | 1:41:19 | |
Labour government and coalition
government provided those, and I | 1:41:19 | 1:41:21 | |
think it was a big mistake. I think
children of all creeds, races and | 1:41:21 | 1:41:25 | |
nations should work, play and eat
beside each other, and go home on a | 1:41:25 | 1:41:30 | |
couch beside each other. I don't
want to talk any more that religious | 1:41:30 | 1:41:35 | |
schools. I think the education
system of our country is on the | 1:41:35 | 1:41:40 | |
cost, and will be fundamentally
changed by the digital revolution to | 1:41:40 | 1:41:42 | |
which the primate referred. It will
first reduce and skilled jobs on a | 1:41:42 | 1:41:47 | |
massive and unprecedented scale. The
only thing maintaining the education | 1:41:47 | 1:41:53 | |
system since 1870 has been a large
reservoir unskilled jobs at the | 1:41:53 | 1:41:56 | |
bottom, in which the students who do
not do well at school are filling. | 1:41:56 | 1:42:03 | |
Warehouse jobs, driving jobs, you
know that when you order something | 1:42:03 | 1:42:08 | |
today, the only time a hand has
touched it is when someone knocked | 1:42:08 | 1:42:11 | |
on your door. Mercedes is producing
a driverless lorry which will | 1:42:11 | 1:42:16 | |
decimate the millions of trap-jaw
ant is in America and those who run | 1:42:16 | 1:42:22 | |
stopovers on sandwich bars. And not
only unskilled. Middle management | 1:42:22 | 1:42:25 | |
will be absolutely decimated by it.
When RBS say they're going to close | 1:42:25 | 1:42:31 | |
200 banks, it is middle managers,
people here taken humanities | 1:42:31 | 1:42:37 | |
degrees, got a job in a big
operation and expected to have a | 1:42:37 | 1:42:41 | |
comfortable job for the rest of
their lives. Artificial intelligence | 1:42:41 | 1:42:44 | |
and big data is going to destroy
most of those jobs. I come to "In | 1:42:44 | 1:42:48 | |
that we need a fundamental change to
increase the technical education of | 1:42:48 | 1:42:52 | |
our country. But we're not doing
that on a beginner scale. All | 1:42:52 | 1:43:01 | |
technical education is being
squeezed out of schools below 16. I | 1:43:01 | 1:43:04 | |
think we are the only large country
that is actually following this | 1:43:04 | 1:43:08 | |
policy. Design and technology is the
only GCSE I introduced in the 1980s, | 1:43:08 | 1:43:13 | |
and it has fallen for the last seven
years, meaning fewer and fewer | 1:43:13 | 1:43:16 | |
people at 16 have any experience of
technical education. An 18-year-old | 1:43:16 | 1:43:21 | |
German student at the age of 18, 70%
of those would have had some | 1:43:21 | 1:43:26 | |
technical education. In Britain,
that is only 30%. Something has to | 1:43:26 | 1:43:30 | |
be done about this, and that is wife
or the last seven years, I have | 1:43:30 | 1:43:36 | |
promoted university technical
colleges, which are 14-18 colleges. | 1:43:36 | 1:43:40 | |
We operate from nine or 9:30am till
five o'clock every day. I tell | 1:43:40 | 1:43:44 | |
youngsters when they join that this
is the beginning of their working | 1:43:44 | 1:43:48 | |
life, and for two days of the week,
they will be making in designing | 1:43:48 | 1:43:51 | |
things with their hands. The great
virtue of his colleges, we have 49 | 1:43:51 | 1:43:55 | |
of them, we should have many more,
is that we have the best employment | 1:43:55 | 1:43:58 | |
rate of any schools in the country.
Last July, we have got 13,000 | 1:43:58 | 1:44:03 | |
students at the moment who have
probably -- and I will probably be | 1:44:03 | 1:44:09 | |
20,000 by the end of this year. We
had 2000 levers, of whom only 26 | 1:44:09 | 1:44:15 | |
were NEETs, and you needed
job-seeker's allowance. That is an | 1:44:15 | 1:44:18 | |
unemployment rate of 1%. The actual
unemployment rate, which the | 1:44:18 | 1:44:23 | |
government do not talk much about,
is actually 12.2%, and we are 1%. It | 1:44:23 | 1:44:31 | |
is a very clear demonstration of how
successful these colleges are, and I | 1:44:31 | 1:44:34 | |
am very glad that the gentleman in
pre-Shia | 1:44:34 | 1:44:44 | |
appreciates how important these are,
and I think the country needs more | 1:44:47 | 1:44:51 | |
UTCs. We had many technical skills,
or killed by snobbery. It was a | 1:44:51 | 1:44:58 | |
massive mistake. We need to invent a
large amount of technical schools in | 1:44:58 | 1:45:01 | |
our country. And can I say something
about computing? Again, as with | 1:45:01 | 1:45:09 | |
several things already said today,
commuters tablet computers will | 1:45:09 | 1:45:13 | |
fundamentally change education.
There is no doubt about that. The | 1:45:13 | 1:45:19 | |
government said that primary schools
should teach coding last year, and I | 1:45:19 | 1:45:23 | |
welcome that. The most successful
digital country and Europe is | 1:45:23 | 1:45:27 | |
Estonia, and their biggest exporter
's computer scientist. The former | 1:45:27 | 1:45:31 | |
president of Estonia has been
employed by the European Commission | 1:45:31 | 1:45:33 | |
to determine the digital policy for
Europe, we may have had coding in | 1:45:33 | 1:45:38 | |
their schools -- and they have had
coding in their schools the two | 1:45:38 | 1:45:43 | |
decades. Starting in primary
schools, yes. Some people say, is it | 1:45:43 | 1:45:48 | |
too early to start in primary
schools? I have come across a school | 1:45:48 | 1:45:53 | |
in Telford, and they are meeting the
headmaster after Christmas, and he | 1:45:53 | 1:45:58 | |
has got, of his students at 11, and
Audrey primary school with 66% | 1:45:58 | 1:46:06 | |
disadvantaged pupils, he has got his
pupils are GCSE Kim heating level. | 1:46:06 | 1:46:13 | |
If he can do that, any primary
school should do it. I'm going to | 1:46:13 | 1:46:17 | |
find out how he do that and make
sure it can spread throughout the | 1:46:17 | 1:46:20 | |
primary areas. The other thing
primary schools should have our 3D | 1:46:20 | 1:46:23 | |
printer 's. Those who have seen them
realise how important they are, how | 1:46:23 | 1:46:31 | |
they help inventiveness and
creativity. When it comes to | 1:46:31 | 1:46:33 | |
secondary education, the government
is not really doing enough to expand | 1:46:33 | 1:46:37 | |
computer studies and schools. Last
July, 60,000 students took GCSE | 1:46:37 | 1:46:45 | |
computing at 16, which sounds a lot,
but over 300,000 took a | 1:46:45 | 1:46:49 | |
foreign-language. Are they going to
say a foreign-language must be | 1:46:49 | 1:46:55 | |
compulsory and 16? I don't believe
that is necessary, but it should be | 1:46:55 | 1:46:59 | |
voluntary, and a computer language
should be. It is more important | 1:46:59 | 1:47:03 | |
today to understand a computer
language than to pick up the | 1:47:03 | 1:47:05 | |
smatterings of foreign language, and
I think that is a change that should | 1:47:05 | 1:47:08 | |
be made. I think the government is
moving, but that too slow a place. I | 1:47:08 | 1:47:12 | |
think this is something that really
must be taken in hand, because | 1:47:12 | 1:47:15 | |
without that, I am quite sure that
youth unemployment at 18, which is | 1:47:15 | 1:47:21 | |
now 12.2%, having gone up by half a
percent this year, will increase, | 1:47:21 | 1:47:25 | |
and Brexit will make it even more
difficult for us to do this, and we | 1:47:25 | 1:47:29 | |
have a skills gap which is enormous.
750,000 digital technicians short, | 1:47:29 | 1:47:33 | |
45,000 STEM graduates a year short.
This requires a change in the vigour | 1:47:33 | 1:47:43 | |
of increasing technical education.
May I begin by joining everyone else | 1:47:43 | 1:47:48 | |
in thanking the most reverent
primate for securing this debate and | 1:47:48 | 1:47:52 | |
introducing it in a way which was
both stimulating and challenging, | 1:47:52 | 1:47:58 | |
and set a very high bar for the rest
of us, if I may say so. Like the | 1:47:58 | 1:48:03 | |
noble Lord Baker, my own early
education was in a Church of England | 1:48:03 | 1:48:07 | |
school, a village primary school.
Although I am of no settled face | 1:48:07 | 1:48:13 | |
now, I acknowledge the huge debt
that I owe to the early introduction | 1:48:13 | 1:48:19 | |
to the Bible, the King James
version, my Lords, old and new | 1:48:19 | 1:48:25 | |
Testaments, and to the liturgy of
the English Church, expressed in the | 1:48:25 | 1:48:30 | |
book of Common prayer. I am still
strongly attached to both, albeit | 1:48:30 | 1:48:35 | |
by, I suppose what would call more
aesthetic than theological ties. | 1:48:35 | 1:48:41 | |
Because from them, I got most of
what I needed to gain access to the | 1:48:41 | 1:48:46 | |
huge Treasury of art and music and
drama and literature produced as | 1:48:46 | 1:48:53 | |
part of, or in response to, 2000
years of Christian belief and | 1:48:53 | 1:48:59 | |
practice, and outs of that, I got a
wonderful career. So I have much to | 1:48:59 | 1:49:05 | |
be grateful for, my Lords,
unbeliever though I be. I just want | 1:49:05 | 1:49:10 | |
to raise one matter, which has been
touched on by many other noble | 1:49:10 | 1:49:15 | |
Lords, and it is about the
relationship between education and | 1:49:15 | 1:49:18 | |
democracy. We live in dangerous
times. Democracy is threatened | 1:49:18 | 1:49:24 | |
everywhere. Sometimes physically.
But more seriously, intellectually | 1:49:24 | 1:49:27 | |
and emotionally. If we believe with
Churchill, as I do, that democracy | 1:49:27 | 1:49:33 | |
is not perfect all wise, but that it
is nonetheless preferable to all | 1:49:33 | 1:49:38 | |
other forms of government that have
been tried, then we must defend it, | 1:49:38 | 1:49:44 | |
and our first line of defence is the
education of our children. As I said | 1:49:44 | 1:49:50 | |
before in this house, I believe this
definition of education, expressed | 1:49:50 | 1:49:58 | |
as to how we expect our schools to
behave, has become far too narrow | 1:49:58 | 1:50:03 | |
and reliant on examinations, and
therefore formulate the gene to the | 1:50:03 | 1:50:07 | |
test. I mean no disrespect to
teachers when I say that, and I had | 1:50:07 | 1:50:12 | |
better not, because my family is
full of them. I am more concerned | 1:50:12 | 1:50:16 | |
with asserting the need for a direct
connection between educational | 1:50:16 | 1:50:18 | |
inputs and jobs. Education, my
Lords, as the most reverent primate | 1:50:18 | 1:50:23 | |
and others have said, is not just
about knowing stuff. It is also | 1:50:23 | 1:50:28 | |
about thinking stuff and feeling
stuff, as the noble lady Neuberger | 1:50:28 | 1:50:37 | |
so eloquently put it to us about
emotional literacy, which is about | 1:50:37 | 1:50:42 | |
understanding how others think and
feel. It is about learning to deal | 1:50:42 | 1:50:47 | |
with complexity, with ambiguity,
with contradiction, with the | 1:50:47 | 1:50:52 | |
frequent absence of right answers,
and now, with a daily avalanche of | 1:50:52 | 1:50:59 | |
unmediated information, what the
most reverent primate referred to as | 1:50:59 | 1:51:03 | |
unguided and competing narratives,
unguided and competing values and | 1:51:03 | 1:51:07 | |
narratives, which come act all our
young April via the internet. In | 1:51:07 | 1:51:15 | |
other words, education is about the
exercise of judgment, of critical | 1:51:15 | 1:51:18 | |
thinking, and empathy, all vital to
exercising our democratic rights as | 1:51:18 | 1:51:24 | |
citizens responsibly, as well as and
not instead of, my Lords, knowing | 1:51:24 | 1:51:32 | |
our times tables, and how to create
an algorithm, and indeed, how to | 1:51:32 | 1:51:36 | |
spell algorithm. The responsibility
for ensuring this Brad cannot lie | 1:51:36 | 1:51:44 | |
entirely in schools. They need
support, and I'm afraid, my Lords, | 1:51:44 | 1:51:49 | |
here comes the stuck record bit in
terms of other interventions I have | 1:51:49 | 1:51:51 | |
made in this house. The study of the
arts provides matchless | 1:51:51 | 1:51:57 | |
opportunities to develop these
capabilities. The JAMA dies age and | 1:51:57 | 1:52:01 | |
of human dilemmas and aspirations
helps us to understand them. -- the | 1:52:01 | 1:52:06 | |
dramatisation. Shakespeare is a
great way of learning about human | 1:52:06 | 1:52:10 | |
beings. Metaphor, allegory,
characterisation infection help us | 1:52:10 | 1:52:14 | |
to grasp the wide differences
between people, and to tolerate | 1:52:14 | 1:52:17 | |
those differences, and participating
in music, particularly singing | 1:52:17 | 1:52:24 | |
enquiries, which I personally do,
teaches us, as they say, that there | 1:52:24 | 1:52:28 | |
is no I in team. The UK has many
wonderful cultural organisations, | 1:52:28 | 1:52:35 | |
small and large, regional and
national, and indeed, most hourly | 1:52:35 | 1:52:42 | |
contributing widely to the education
of the next generation of citizens, | 1:52:42 | 1:52:45 | |
both through their core work, and
through a variety of imaginative | 1:52:45 | 1:52:51 | |
collaborations with schools and
communities, especially in | 1:52:51 | 1:52:53 | |
disadvantaged areas. I refer in
passing to my work with the Royal | 1:52:53 | 1:52:58 | |
Shakespeare Company, which has
recently done great work in | 1:52:58 | 1:53:01 | |
Blackpool, which was mentioned as
one of those deprived areas. I would | 1:53:01 | 1:53:04 | |
also like to mention the excellent
work of Chicken Shed Theatre in | 1:53:04 | 1:53:09 | |
North London, where my nine-year-old
granddaughter is currently appearing | 1:53:09 | 1:53:14 | |
in their extremely professional, in
the very best sense, Christmas show, | 1:53:14 | 1:53:17 | |
in which she is appearing on stage
with children in wheelchairs, with | 1:53:17 | 1:53:23 | |
children with learning difficulties
and down syndrome, and every other | 1:53:23 | 1:53:26 | |
kind of human being you can think
of, old and young. What is she | 1:53:26 | 1:53:32 | |
learning from that? A great deal, my
Lords. Schools are able to | 1:53:32 | 1:53:38 | |
participate in the partnerships
these organisations offer them, and | 1:53:38 | 1:53:39 | |
they value them enormously. Evidence
shows they have a beneficial effect | 1:53:39 | 1:53:46 | |
on all aspects of learning, but
school leaders are often confused by | 1:53:46 | 1:53:50 | |
mixed messages from government about
the value of cultural education and | 1:53:50 | 1:53:54 | |
struggle more and more with
budgetary constraints as do the arts | 1:53:54 | 1:53:58 | |
organisations themselves. We are
missing a trick. | 1:53:58 | 1:54:07 | |
We are missing a trick and please
take this debate seriously. I would | 1:54:07 | 1:54:15 | |
like to start by the clearing my
interest as chairman of the former | 1:54:15 | 1:54:20 | |
local government Association. As a
former teacher, I am particularly | 1:54:20 | 1:54:27 | |
pleased to have the opportunity to
speak in this important debate and I | 1:54:27 | 1:54:32 | |
thank the most Reverend primate for
initiating today's debate. We need | 1:54:32 | 1:54:42 | |
to provide young people with the
skills they need to flourish and it | 1:54:42 | 1:54:47 | |
is something we can all agree on. I
am pleased to note the achievements | 1:54:47 | 1:54:58 | |
which are giving millions of
children a better start in life than | 1:54:58 | 1:55:02 | |
they could have expected a decade
ago. Thanks to the school reforms | 1:55:02 | 1:55:07 | |
that have been introduced including
the establishment of free schools | 1:55:07 | 1:55:10 | |
and academies, as well as changes to
ensure a more rigorous curriculum, | 1:55:10 | 1:55:21 | |
there are more schools rated good
and outstanding than ever before. | 1:55:21 | 1:55:30 | |
The proportion of pupils taking core
academic subjects has almost | 1:55:30 | 1:55:33 | |
doubled. Too many children are not
receiving the start in life that | 1:55:33 | 1:55:43 | |
they deserve. In order to make sure
ours is a country where everyone has | 1:55:43 | 1:55:48 | |
a fair chance to go as far as their
talent and hard work will allow, we | 1:55:48 | 1:55:56 | |
must redouble our efforts to ensure
that everyone has a world-class | 1:55:56 | 1:56:01 | |
education. There is a wealth of
evidence to show that the | 1:56:01 | 1:56:11 | |
opportunities offered early on is
what defines a life chance. There | 1:56:11 | 1:56:21 | |
are two Mac areas of education
policy I am particularly passionate | 1:56:21 | 1:56:23 | |
about because of the transformative
impact they can have on young lives. | 1:56:23 | 1:56:30 | |
As a former leader of Bradford
Council and Vice President of an | 1:56:30 | 1:56:37 | |
association, I'm delighted local
government is leading the way in | 1:56:37 | 1:56:40 | |
these areas, to highlight just one
example I'm familiar with, North | 1:56:40 | 1:56:46 | |
Yorkshire County Council became the
first local authority in the country | 1:56:46 | 1:56:50 | |
to take the family model and
introduce it as a mainstream | 1:56:50 | 1:56:55 | |
approach for its own children and
young people's services, with one | 1:56:55 | 1:57:00 | |
plan and a dedicated social worker
for each family in need. Prevention | 1:57:00 | 1:57:04 | |
teams provide highly targeted
support at times when families are | 1:57:04 | 1:57:08 | |
most in need in order to stop
problems from escalating. In doing | 1:57:08 | 1:57:14 | |
so they are backed up by support
from a variety of external agencies. | 1:57:14 | 1:57:27 | |
This builds on a programme which
helped 850 families, resulting in | 1:57:27 | 1:57:33 | |
significant reductions in truancy,
youth crime, anti-social behaviour | 1:57:33 | 1:57:36 | |
and youth unemployment among the
most challenging of households. The | 1:57:36 | 1:57:43 | |
current programme is also making a
real difference to the lives of | 1:57:43 | 1:57:47 | |
people living in troubled families
as evidenced by a 20% reduction in | 1:57:47 | 1:57:52 | |
the social care population. I
believe if we are to give young | 1:57:52 | 1:57:57 | |
people the very best possible start
in life it is programmes such as | 1:57:57 | 1:58:02 | |
these, delivered at local level and
tailored to individual families and | 1:58:02 | 1:58:08 | |
their own circumstances that truly
have a transformative impact. Moving | 1:58:08 | 1:58:14 | |
on to formal education, if we are to
have a system that works for | 1:58:14 | 1:58:19 | |
everyone, it's important that the
way that funding is distributed is | 1:58:19 | 1:58:26 | |
fair. This is not the case currently
because across the country, children | 1:58:26 | 1:58:31 | |
with the same needs and expectations
receive markedly different rates of | 1:58:31 | 1:58:35 | |
funding for their school places. The
government is currently addressing | 1:58:35 | 1:58:38 | |
this through the introduction of a
national funding formula, something | 1:58:38 | 1:58:44 | |
I personally welcome. Reforms such
as this are complex and will be seen | 1:58:44 | 1:58:52 | |
to produce both winners and losers.
For this reason I join in welcoming | 1:58:52 | 1:58:58 | |
the announcement of 1.3 billion in
funding to ensure no school will | 1:58:58 | 1:59:02 | |
lose out under the national funding
formula in 2018 - 2020. I am also | 1:59:02 | 1:59:14 | |
pleased the government is committed
to protecting the pupil premium | 1:59:14 | 1:59:18 | |
referred to by Lord Wallace and
ensuring those young people who need | 1:59:18 | 1:59:22 | |
that support receive it. I'm sure
ministers are aware of lobbying on | 1:59:22 | 1:59:31 | |
the funding of children's services
and the pressures council budgets | 1:59:31 | 1:59:36 | |
are facing. No doubt they will be
carefully considering this in the | 1:59:36 | 1:59:40 | |
run-up to the local government
financial settlement which is | 1:59:40 | 1:59:42 | |
expected shortly. I've spoken about
early years education and formal | 1:59:42 | 1:59:49 | |
education and I'd like to conclude
by highlighting the importance of | 1:59:49 | 1:59:55 | |
offering real opportunities to the
200,000 young people choosing to | 1:59:55 | 2:00:03 | |
enter full-time vocational study
after the GCSE years. | 2:00:03 | 2:00:10 | |
Apprenticeships provide a great
opportunity for those young people | 2:00:10 | 2:00:13 | |
who are keen to enter the world of
work and I'm delighted councils are | 2:00:13 | 2:00:19 | |
playing an active role in promoting
these, for example, Kent County | 2:00:19 | 2:00:24 | |
Council offers a range of
apprenticeships to help them start | 2:00:24 | 2:00:30 | |
their careers. As part of the
apprentice offer, apprentices | 2:00:30 | 2:00:37 | |
receive £140 a week during their
apprenticeship as well as support | 2:00:37 | 2:00:40 | |
for all the qualifications they are
required to study for, access to a | 2:00:40 | 2:00:47 | |
mentor and support to look for a job
when the apprenticeship is finished. | 2:00:47 | 2:00:55 | |
The council offers support and
advice as well as access to relevant | 2:00:55 | 2:01:00 | |
funding and businesses so that they
are interested in taking on | 2:01:00 | 2:01:08 | |
apprentice ships. Apprenticeships
represent a potential transformation | 2:01:08 | 2:01:15 | |
in life chances of young people who
participate, boosting their | 2:01:15 | 2:01:19 | |
self-esteem and giving them the
skills that they need to enter the | 2:01:19 | 2:01:21 | |
world of work. In conclusion, a good
education and a decent start in life | 2:01:21 | 2:01:31 | |
are not luxuries. They are right
that should be enjoyed by everyone. | 2:01:31 | 2:01:36 | |
I've been delighted to take part in
this debate and I look forward to | 2:01:36 | 2:01:41 | |
hearing from the remaining speakers.
I would like to thank the most | 2:01:41 | 2:01:49 | |
Reverend primate for the opportunity
to address a subject that is vital | 2:01:49 | 2:01:52 | |
for the future. I will restrict
myself to one area where I can claim | 2:01:52 | 2:02:00 | |
some personal experience. The last
time this was debated was almost two | 2:02:00 | 2:02:03 | |
years ago. During that debate are
greatly missed colleague, Baroness | 2:02:03 | 2:02:11 | |
Williams, in her valedictory speech,
said this. The United Kingdom has a | 2:02:11 | 2:02:16 | |
special genius for demonstrating
public-sector imagination, for a | 2:02:16 | 2:02:20 | |
commitment to the idea and I deal of
public life. In her speech, she | 2:02:20 | 2:02:24 | |
referred to the BBC and the open
University as two examples of that | 2:02:24 | 2:02:28 | |
public sector imagination and it
sample -- in action. I wonder | 2:02:28 | 2:02:37 | |
whether that still truly exists. I
would argue that were it not for the | 2:02:37 | 2:02:43 | |
care and attention shown by this
house, it would be possible for the | 2:02:43 | 2:02:48 | |
BBC to be allowed to be atrophy.
Right now I would like to reflect on | 2:02:48 | 2:02:55 | |
the open University, an institution
to which everyone would pay lip | 2:02:55 | 2:03:00 | |
service. I am the beneficiary of a
part-time education although in my | 2:03:00 | 2:03:13 | |
day it was simply called night
school. I would hazard that most of | 2:03:13 | 2:03:17 | |
the speakers entered the world of
work in which they could put | 2:03:17 | 2:03:22 | |
education paying them having
developed a skill set that would | 2:03:22 | 2:03:25 | |
last a lifetime. That no longer
remains remotely the case. I spent | 2:03:25 | 2:03:28 | |
yesterday morning at Tech UK. They
offered us the self same message. | 2:03:28 | 2:03:41 | |
The prospects for this country's
future were being seriously hampered | 2:03:41 | 2:03:49 | |
by a shortage of skilled and
confident people. They want people | 2:03:49 | 2:03:57 | |
in the workforce to be up skilled
and retrained to contribute to a | 2:03:57 | 2:04:01 | |
rapidly changing working
environment. That public imagination | 2:04:01 | 2:04:05 | |
I referred to greeted the world's
first distance learning | 2:04:05 | 2:04:14 | |
organisation, perfectly suited to
addressing the reskilling challenge. | 2:04:14 | 2:04:18 | |
Through a process of what I can only
describe as the nine neglect, the | 2:04:18 | 2:04:24 | |
mission to address exactly this type
of crisis has become seriously | 2:04:24 | 2:04:33 | |
endangered. Funding changes under
different UK governments have led | 2:04:33 | 2:04:40 | |
directly in the past five years to
50% fall in the number of part-time | 2:04:40 | 2:04:44 | |
learners in England. This is worse
than nations and regions which have | 2:04:44 | 2:04:50 | |
avoided the funding changes. The
open University has lower figures in | 2:04:50 | 2:05:03 | |
England than in Northern Ireland,
Scotland and Wales. In fact, England | 2:05:03 | 2:05:11 | |
accounts for 90% of the total
decline. When it comes to it I | 2:05:11 | 2:05:19 | |
wonder if the Minister would explain
these discrepancies and the fact | 2:05:19 | 2:05:22 | |
there are over double the part-time
students in Scotland than in | 2:05:22 | 2:05:29 | |
England. What do they know that we
have failed to grasp? Let's look at | 2:05:29 | 2:05:41 | |
the problem. If the government
agrees with the most ambitious of | 2:05:41 | 2:05:45 | |
our companies that we've a growing
skills gap then the potentially | 2:05:45 | 2:05:52 | |
transformative step would be to
develop accounts to offer help to | 2:05:52 | 2:05:58 | |
employees seeking training, closely
offered by industry. This could | 2:05:58 | 2:06:05 | |
drive a culture change and help
deliver the industrial policy. This | 2:06:05 | 2:06:12 | |
concept was laid out in compelling
detail by the Vice Chancellor, Peter | 2:06:12 | 2:06:17 | |
Horrocks, in a recent article which
I would recommend. In a world in | 2:06:17 | 2:06:23 | |
which the World Economic Forum can
report that just last year, China | 2:06:23 | 2:06:29 | |
had 4.7 million new graduates as
against 568,000 in the US, with the | 2:06:29 | 2:06:36 | |
UK not making it onto the list, we
cannot afford to leave a sizeable | 2:06:36 | 2:06:41 | |
proportion of our workforce cut
adrift by the inexorable march of | 2:06:41 | 2:06:46 | |
technology. Most particularly, when
we have a world-class institution | 2:06:46 | 2:06:51 | |
wishing to be repurposed to address
what is clearly a developing crisis. | 2:06:51 | 2:07:02 | |
All of this goes beyond world
economic considerations. It was an | 2:07:02 | 2:07:06 | |
unimaginable privilege to present to
people who had worked for years on | 2:07:06 | 2:07:12 | |
the kitchen tables at the start of
the journey towards improved lives | 2:07:12 | 2:07:16 | |
for themselves and their families.
Why would any government not wish to | 2:07:16 | 2:07:20 | |
play a part in making that possible?
What fascinating and moving to beat | 2:07:20 | 2:07:33 | |
this has turned out to be. So many
interesting and great speeches. I | 2:07:33 | 2:07:41 | |
want to focus upon the Academy
movement. At the turn-of-the-century | 2:07:41 | 2:07:48 | |
I became chairman of the United
schools trust which is a group of | 2:07:48 | 2:07:56 | |
independent schools which numbered
12. When Tony Blair announced his | 2:07:56 | 2:08:02 | |
intention to create the Academy
programme, under the leadership of | 2:08:02 | 2:08:05 | |
Lord Adonis, the United schools
trust was among the first to engage | 2:08:05 | 2:08:13 | |
with the programme. The then CEO
asks the question of our trustees, | 2:08:13 | 2:08:19 | |
what would our forebears do if they
were alive today? Formed in 1883, it | 2:08:19 | 2:08:27 | |
was created to provide excellent
education for girls and the trustees | 2:08:27 | 2:08:37 | |
in 1999 decided it demanded we to
should engage. Our group is one of | 2:08:37 | 2:08:52 | |
the most successful multi-Academy
trusts. Now led by John calls, | 2:08:52 | 2:09:02 | |
United learning has taken on failing
schools in the most deprived areas | 2:09:02 | 2:09:09 | |
of the country. They will be
transformed into thriving, popular | 2:09:09 | 2:09:19 | |
schools where pupils make excellent
progress. Successful forms are | 2:09:19 | 2:09:26 | |
providing students with life
changing opportunities to go to | 2:09:26 | 2:09:29 | |
university. Many of these students
are the first in a family to do so. | 2:09:29 | 2:09:35 | |
A good number have seen students
securing places in Russell Group | 2:09:35 | 2:09:42 | |
universities including Oxford and
Cambridge. | 2:09:42 | 2:09:49 | |
And striking features of United
Learning is that our response to the | 2:09:49 | 2:09:55 | |
academy programme arose from
independent education. We now have | 2:09:55 | 2:10:00 | |
school such as Guildford High School
For Girls, Surbiton High School For | 2:10:00 | 2:10:05 | |
Girls caterer -- Kate Hamer school,
to raise standards. One of the most | 2:10:05 | 2:10:15 | |
interesting links is Marlborough
College working closely with Swindon | 2:10:15 | 2:10:17 | |
Academy. I am aware that other links
exist, but I wonder if the | 2:10:17 | 2:10:24 | |
Department for Education is doing
much as it showed during carriage | 2:10:24 | 2:10:26 | |
that partnership as part of the
social duty of independent | 2:10:26 | 2:10:30 | |
education. In this, I add echo the
view of Lord Wallace of Saltaire. | 2:10:30 | 2:10:39 | |
Although many good things are
happening in education, the pressure | 2:10:39 | 2:10:41 | |
on state schools, I suppose on all
schools, are raising sharp questions | 2:10:41 | 2:10:49 | |
about education policy and
resources. The first thing I want to | 2:10:49 | 2:10:55 | |
raise as if the academy programme
created by the Labour government and | 2:10:55 | 2:11:00 | |
taken up with great enthusiasm by
the Conservative Party with equal | 2:11:00 | 2:11:04 | |
enthusiasm is still the ultimate
goal of the government. The White | 2:11:04 | 2:11:10 | |
Paper of March 2016 suggests that
this is the goal, but would the | 2:11:10 | 2:11:17 | |
Prime Minister desire to increase
the number of grammar schools, | 2:11:17 | 2:11:20 | |
although that has possibly been
kicked into the long grass, there | 2:11:20 | 2:11:23 | |
remains a question about the
government's long-term plans and | 2:11:23 | 2:11:27 | |
commitment. Is the government in
favour of full academise Asian or | 2:11:27 | 2:11:31 | |
not? -- academisation. The second
question is one of teacher shortage. | 2:11:31 | 2:11:48 | |
The latest figures for recruitment
into teacher training shows targets | 2:11:48 | 2:11:51 | |
being missed in almost every
subject, in many cases by a long | 2:11:51 | 2:11:58 | |
way. It is worth in some subjects,
especially maths and physical | 2:11:58 | 2:12:06 | |
science. Wherever there is a
shortage, my Lords, it is schools in | 2:12:06 | 2:12:10 | |
the poorest areas that are most
affected. So it tends to widen | 2:12:10 | 2:12:15 | |
disparities between schools, and our
fact social cohesion. Of course, it | 2:12:15 | 2:12:23 | |
is not impossible for heads to
recruit new teachers, but some find | 2:12:23 | 2:12:26 | |
it difficult to get specialists in
all subjects. The important point of | 2:12:26 | 2:12:31 | |
our teacher supply is that education
is a people's business, and schools | 2:12:31 | 2:12:36 | |
need the right skilled people
preaching every class. Given that | 2:12:36 | 2:12:41 | |
initial teacher training targets
have been missed again, may I ask | 2:12:41 | 2:12:45 | |
what is the government's strategy to
address the problem? Finally, my | 2:12:45 | 2:12:51 | |
Lords, a flourishing in skilled
society needs far more than young | 2:12:51 | 2:12:55 | |
people passing academic tests, and
this has been emphasised again and | 2:12:55 | 2:13:02 | |
again. Education must be grounded in
strong values and character | 2:13:02 | 2:13:04 | |
building, as Lord Griffiths reminded
us, in which the partnership between | 2:13:04 | 2:13:10 | |
families, schools and local
communities is a covenant. Yes, that | 2:13:10 | 2:13:17 | |
is a strong word, a covenant. Based
upon the fundamental importance of | 2:13:17 | 2:13:24 | |
the chart. | 2:13:24 | 2:13:26 | |
My Lords, it is a very great
pleasure to be able to take part in | 2:13:27 | 2:13:31 | |
this debate, which was so splendidly
introduced by the most Reverend | 2:13:31 | 2:13:37 | |
Primate, in his own inimitable way,
and of course, it is a great | 2:13:37 | 2:13:43 | |
pleasure to be able to follow a
former bishop, and I know something | 2:13:43 | 2:13:46 | |
of his work in United Learning,
because Lincoln Minster School is | 2:13:46 | 2:13:54 | |
one of the schools for which he had
overall responsibility. It is | 2:13:54 | 2:13:59 | |
something approaching 50 years since
I last was a schoolmaster. I spent | 2:13:59 | 2:14:06 | |
ten years in various schools, and I
am very sorry Lord donors is not | 2:14:06 | 2:14:09 | |
here now, because much of my
teaching, and most of learning, was | 2:14:09 | 2:14:12 | |
in Grimsby. But, my Lords, it was a
different age. In every possible | 2:14:12 | 2:14:20 | |
way. My noble friend, the Baroness
Shackleton, who again, is not here | 2:14:20 | 2:14:29 | |
at the moment, spoke movingly about
the family, the effect of family | 2:14:29 | 2:14:36 | |
breakdown on children's lives. My
Lords, in those days, I taught | 2:14:36 | 2:14:41 | |
throughout the 1960s, and in those
days, there were called Molly -- | 2:14:41 | 2:14:50 | |
there were commonly accepted norms
and standards, and most children | 2:14:50 | 2:14:54 | |
attending schools were the children
of two parents of different sex, | 2:14:54 | 2:15:00 | |
married. I make no value judgments,
I merely state a fact. We now, my | 2:15:00 | 2:15:12 | |
lord, live in an age where the moral
compass by which life was lived in | 2:15:12 | 2:15:18 | |
those days, and for some
considerable time after that, no | 2:15:18 | 2:15:22 | |
longer functions. And it is a moral
compass, my Lords, that has been | 2:15:22 | 2:15:28 | |
destroyed, and I am glad to see the
noble Lord in his place nodding at | 2:15:28 | 2:15:37 | |
this point, because he made a
powerful point here, destroyed by | 2:15:37 | 2:15:40 | |
social media, and whatever
advantages social media and the | 2:15:40 | 2:15:46 | |
internet has brought to our lives,
there are also, and I speak as the | 2:15:46 | 2:15:53 | |
grandfather of four grandchildren,
there are also very real dangers. | 2:15:53 | 2:16:01 | |
There is a downside, my Lords, which
we have to combat, and it is in that | 2:16:01 | 2:16:06 | |
context that I just want to make a
few remarks about what should be the | 2:16:06 | 2:16:10 | |
ultimate purpose of education today.
My Lords, it should be seen educate | 2:16:10 | 2:16:19 | |
-- to educate, both from the point
of view of learning, and | 2:16:19 | 2:16:23 | |
emotionally, the citizens of the
future. What we need to come out of | 2:16:23 | 2:16:32 | |
our schools are responsible young
people, who take a pride in their | 2:16:32 | 2:16:38 | |
country, and I refer to something
Lord Sacks said earlier on in | 2:16:38 | 2:16:50 | |
debate, who imbibed through their
learning what this country is all | 2:16:50 | 2:16:54 | |
about. And how increasingly
necessary, my Lords, it is going to | 2:16:54 | 2:17:02 | |
do after 2019, when we begin the
tortuous process of extract in | 2:17:02 | 2:17:11 | |
ourselves from the European Union.
-- extracting. | 2:17:11 | 2:17:17 | |
My Lords, what is a responsible
citizen? Above all, someone who has | 2:17:18 | 2:17:25 | |
a sense of community cohesion, and
obligation to serve that community. | 2:17:25 | 2:17:36 | |
And so we need to inculcate, and
this is why I am delighted to be a | 2:17:36 | 2:17:41 | |
supporter of Church of England
schools and what they have brought | 2:17:41 | 2:17:44 | |
to our nation over the years, the
noble Baroness Lady McIntosh refers | 2:17:44 | 2:17:48 | |
to this, what we have got to
recognise is that there is a | 2:17:48 | 2:17:58 | |
continuing responsibility upon these
schools, and others, of course, to | 2:17:58 | 2:18:04 | |
teach what, in the words of the King
James Bible, which she referred to | 2:18:04 | 2:18:11 | |
so lovingly, and also, of course,
one of the Epistles for the day, | 2:18:11 | 2:18:23 | |
Trinity 20, is it? Corinthians 13,
faith, hope and charity, and the | 2:18:23 | 2:18:30 | |
greatest of these is charity.
We need young people who have a | 2:18:30 | 2:18:37 | |
sense of belonging to a community,
and a sense of obligation to commit | 2:18:37 | 2:18:41 | |
to that community. And so,
citizenship education should be | 2:18:41 | 2:18:51 | |
given a far higher priority than it
is at the moment. And my Lords, I | 2:18:51 | 2:18:56 | |
want to end on another point,
because it has been referred to by | 2:18:56 | 2:19:00 | |
several of your Lordships during
this debate, and it is one to which | 2:19:00 | 2:19:03 | |
I attach enormous importance. My
Lords, it is not a favour if our -- | 2:19:03 | 2:19:13 | |
it is not a failure, if our young
people do not go to university. | 2:19:13 | 2:19:18 | |
Vocational qualification is it self
-- itself a noble aspiration. I have | 2:19:18 | 2:19:26 | |
the honour to be the founder
chairman of the William Morris Craft | 2:19:26 | 2:19:31 | |
Fellowships, and just a week ago, we
had our annual Fellowship Award, the | 2:19:31 | 2:19:37 | |
30th. It has been going 30 years
now. Young craftsmen and crass women | 2:19:37 | 2:19:42 | |
are rewarded, not only for what they
have achieved, but for their | 2:19:42 | 2:19:46 | |
potential. -- crafts women. | 2:19:46 | 2:19:48 | |
One of the obligations on a William
Morris Craft Fellow, a fellow for | 2:19:50 | 2:19:58 | |
life once appointed, is to go out
amongst the young and encourage them | 2:19:58 | 2:20:01 | |
to aspire to master one of the
crafts. The word "Apprenticeship" | 2:20:01 | 2:20:10 | |
has been bandied around quite a bit
during this debate, but true | 2:20:10 | 2:20:15 | |
apprenticeships are those which give
a rigorous training over a long | 2:20:15 | 2:20:18 | |
period, so that the young person
concerned can indeed be a master of | 2:20:18 | 2:20:27 | |
the craft. And if we can, indeed, in
spite of all the diversions and | 2:20:27 | 2:20:33 | |
problems and threats of social
media, if we could, indeed, moved to | 2:20:33 | 2:20:38 | |
2020 and beyond, have young people
come out of schools, not only | 2:20:38 | 2:20:43 | |
equipped to be equipped to be good
citizens and members of their | 2:20:43 | 2:20:50 | |
community, but masters of whatever
they have studied, and whatever | 2:20:50 | 2:20:55 | |
vocation they followed, then indeed,
we would be achieving a great deal | 2:20:55 | 2:21:02 | |
for the educational system in this
country. | 2:21:02 | 2:21:09 | |
The most reverend prelate has been a
great champion for economic and | 2:21:10 | 2:21:13 | |
social justice.
To his credit, he was one of the | 2:21:13 | 2:21:17 | |
first people to speak up against
loan sharks. This debate reflects | 2:21:17 | 2:21:24 | |
his determination and vision in
achieving that social justice in | 2:21:24 | 2:21:30 | |
educating the whole person. Noble
Lord Sacks and others has said that | 2:21:30 | 2:21:41 | |
education is part of our social
infrastructure. It is not something | 2:21:41 | 2:21:44 | |
to be nurtured separately, it is
part of what we are. And if we don't | 2:21:44 | 2:21:50 | |
get it right and move with the
times, everything else suffers. So | 2:21:50 | 2:21:56 | |
are we getting it right? Last week,
we learned there has been enormous | 2:21:56 | 2:22:04 | |
growth in the number of graduates in
the population. We also learned that | 2:22:04 | 2:22:13 | |
almost half of those who graduated
in the last five years are in | 2:22:13 | 2:22:17 | |
non-graduate level jobs. Noble Lords
will have heard this morning that | 2:22:17 | 2:22:23 | |
the chair of the National Audit
Office compares this with the | 2:22:23 | 2:22:27 | |
mis-selling by the banks. We also
learned there has been a large fall | 2:22:27 | 2:22:34 | |
in those taking up apprenticeships.
This may be due to the new system of | 2:22:34 | 2:22:41 | |
the apprenticeship levy, or the IFA
refusing support for low-level | 2:22:41 | 2:22:47 | |
schemes. But equally, it could mean
that employers are rejecting the | 2:22:47 | 2:22:54 | |
scheme, as my noble friend Lord
Jonas said, which would be a real | 2:22:54 | 2:22:59 | |
cause for worry. -- Lord Jonas.
There could be cuts in the FP | 2:22:59 | 2:23:05 | |
institutions. Perhaps the minister
can tell us, because we really do | 2:23:05 | 2:23:12 | |
have a great productivity mountain
to climb. We also learned that in | 2:23:12 | 2:23:21 | |
some parts of the country, 16% of
the population have no skills nor | 2:23:21 | 2:23:27 | |
qualifications at all. The national
average of 9% is far too high, and I | 2:23:27 | 2:23:31 | |
would agree with most noble Lords,
who say that it is deprivation | 2:23:31 | 2:23:35 | |
caused by these imbalances that is
holding our society back and I put | 2:23:35 | 2:23:41 | |
this down to many institutions
having to achieve their target | 2:23:41 | 2:23:45 | |
taking precedence over the needs of
society as a whole. Given more staff | 2:23:45 | 2:23:56 | |
and more time, of course they would
make more of complete education, as | 2:23:56 | 2:24:03 | |
required under the 2017 act. But the
system also encourages academic | 2:24:03 | 2:24:09 | |
development of the more able.
Teaching to the test means that | 2:24:09 | 2:24:16 | |
handed down knowledge takes
precedence over the forms of | 2:24:16 | 2:24:19 | |
teaching that explicitly seeks to
engage children in the learning | 2:24:19 | 2:24:23 | |
process. | 2:24:23 | 2:24:31 | |
The noble Lord spoke of social
media. Good exam marks don't tell us | 2:24:31 | 2:24:40 | |
how, in this post-truth age, we can
recognise alternative fact that we | 2:24:40 | 2:24:44 | |
find on social media. The fake news,
invented conspiracies, as the recent | 2:24:44 | 2:24:54 | |
University of Salford reported on
this. They are all designed to | 2:24:54 | 2:25:00 | |
undermine the very notion of
knowledge. The Welsh Assembly | 2:25:00 | 2:25:06 | |
decided to act, by abolishing
performance tables. And yes, they | 2:25:06 | 2:25:13 | |
found Welsh schools lagging behind.
Does this prove that what gets | 2:25:13 | 2:25:19 | |
measured gets done? Or that students
who have been steered towards easy | 2:25:19 | 2:25:24 | |
to obtain qualifications get good
results? I don't know. But we have | 2:25:24 | 2:25:29 | |
yet to learn that dropping the
performance tables has better | 2:25:29 | 2:25:35 | |
prepared students for real-life
situations. This character | 2:25:35 | 2:25:41 | |
development, or character education,
helps to promote well-being. And | 2:25:41 | 2:25:49 | |
improved well-being improves the
capacity to learn, not only | 2:25:49 | 2:25:53 | |
academically, but to learn the
social soft skills. Baroness | 2:25:53 | 2:26:02 | |
Neuberger, and other noble Lords and
the charity Young Minds make the | 2:26:02 | 2:26:07 | |
point that too much emphasis on
academic achievement and too little | 2:26:07 | 2:26:11 | |
character education is part of the
reason for our poor record on the | 2:26:11 | 2:26:17 | |
mental health of young people. I
agree with the bishop and my noble | 2:26:17 | 2:26:24 | |
friend Lord Puttnam. The purpose is
to prepare people for the less | 2:26:24 | 2:26:28 | |
tangible economy that we are busily
creating. He described it. Requiring | 2:26:28 | 2:26:37 | |
less tangible skills and the ability
to reinvent ourselves, as things | 2:26:37 | 2:26:42 | |
change. This is very vital in
today's world of work. Hopefully, | 2:26:42 | 2:26:50 | |
the RSA's ideal school exhibition
project will help. This attempts to | 2:26:50 | 2:26:56 | |
loosen the league tables' grip on
the tests, targets and tactics | 2:26:56 | 2:27:02 | |
system and are pleased with the more
mission orientated culture. Its | 2:27:02 | 2:27:08 | |
focus on the curriculum and testing
what has been taught, instead of | 2:27:08 | 2:27:11 | |
teaching what will be tested. To
reward genuine quality rather than | 2:27:11 | 2:27:19 | |
coach responses. My noble friend
Lord Griffiths made this point. This | 2:27:19 | 2:27:28 | |
project will still identify and
tackle failure, but will give | 2:27:28 | 2:27:32 | |
schools the freedom to pursue their
own mission. I agree with the | 2:27:32 | 2:27:38 | |
Archbishop's call to teach our
values and our ideals as well as how | 2:27:38 | 2:27:45 | |
to write a good exam. And this will
build the flourishing society with | 2:27:45 | 2:27:50 | |
all the right skills that the
Archbishop calls for in this debate. | 2:27:50 | 2:28:00 | |
I thank him for this time the
debate. It was Aristotle who said | 2:28:00 | 2:28:08 | |
that educating the mind without
educating the heart is no education | 2:28:08 | 2:28:13 | |
at all. Education should be about
understanding, not just memory. The | 2:28:13 | 2:28:19 | |
whole person education is clear from
the Bible. Christ is spoken of as a | 2:28:19 | 2:28:23 | |
teacher many times in the Gospels,
and one of his most important | 2:28:23 | 2:28:26 | |
lanterns is in Corinthians. The
human body has many parts, but the | 2:28:26 | 2:28:33 | |
many parts make up one whole body.
This whole person education approach | 2:28:33 | 2:28:39 | |
should be the foundation to
political, economic and social | 2:28:39 | 2:28:44 | |
decision-making. Education should
also be a lifelong pursuit. It is a | 2:28:44 | 2:28:49 | |
journey, not a destination. Some
years ago, I was walking down | 2:28:49 | 2:28:53 | |
Kennedy Road. A middle-aged man was
coming in the opposite direction, | 2:28:53 | 2:28:58 | |
smiling at me. He started laughing
and pointed to meet, saying, George | 2:28:58 | 2:29:04 | |
Clooney, George Clooney. I've been
called many things in my life, but | 2:29:04 | 2:29:08 | |
never George Clooney. Seeing her
bemused I was, he said, John Taylor? | 2:29:08 | 2:29:16 | |
Many years ago, you were my
lecturer. It was a dry subject, so | 2:29:16 | 2:29:21 | |
instead of calling them a and B, you
give them all Hollywood names. So | 2:29:21 | 2:29:26 | |
George Clooney would Seltzer Bette
Midler, who would then sublet to Kim | 2:29:26 | 2:29:31 | |
Basinger. I did recall his face,
because it was much older than the | 2:29:31 | 2:29:36 | |
other students. He explained how
after seven years in a factory he | 2:29:36 | 2:29:40 | |
had made the leap to study landlord
and become a legal executive. If any | 2:29:40 | 2:29:48 | |
of your Lordships nor George
Clooney, please tell he had a real | 2:29:48 | 2:29:52 | |
impact on my course. It was the
church of England which introduced a | 2:29:52 | 2:29:58 | |
school in every parish over 200
years ago. This was more than 50 | 2:29:58 | 2:30:02 | |
years before the provision of state
education. Indeed, in the 19th | 2:30:02 | 2:30:07 | |
century, the Church also provided
some great leaders who had a real | 2:30:07 | 2:30:10 | |
impact on British life. To do so,
they had to educate and transform | 2:30:10 | 2:30:15 | |
people in the way they thought about
their fellow man. These Christian | 2:30:15 | 2:30:19 | |
leaders thought about the whole
person dynamic and included William | 2:30:19 | 2:30:25 | |
Wilberforce, with anti slavery,
Elizabeth Fry on prisons and voting | 2:30:25 | 2:30:28 | |
booths, the founder of the Salvation
Army. These leaders championed | 2:30:28 | 2:30:34 | |
universal values such as fairness,
tolerance, justice, forgiveness, | 2:30:34 | 2:30:39 | |
freedom of speech, family values.
And although the church was running | 2:30:39 | 2:30:43 | |
much of the early education, its
partnership with business provided | 2:30:43 | 2:30:48 | |
not only resources, but that early
link between education and the | 2:30:48 | 2:30:52 | |
workplace. In Birmingham, the Quaker
Christians started the Cadbury 's | 2:30:52 | 2:30:57 | |
company, which provided education,
employment and housing. They were | 2:30:57 | 2:31:01 | |
concerned about the whole person
employee. The Quakers started many | 2:31:01 | 2:31:06 | |
other companies, including the early
banks, Friends Provident, Huntley | 2:31:06 | 2:31:10 | |
and plumbers. -- Huntley and
palmers. Boots was a small shop in | 2:31:10 | 2:31:21 | |
Nottingham selling herbal remedies,
then became the global empire of | 2:31:21 | 2:31:28 | |
today. The greatest example of
Christian whole person education in | 2:31:28 | 2:31:31 | |
British history was a Sunday School
Wesleyan Chapel in Birmingham. In | 2:31:31 | 2:31:38 | |
1874, it started a little sports
club to keep young men out of the | 2:31:38 | 2:31:41 | |
pubs on a Saturday. The idea was to
give them healthy in the spirit of | 2:31:41 | 2:31:45 | |
the chapel and healthy in mind and
body on the football field. The | 2:31:45 | 2:31:52 | |
greatest gift to mankind, my club
Aston Villa was born. Will the noble | 2:31:52 | 2:31:57 | |
ministers explain how the government
will encourage business to have a | 2:31:57 | 2:32:00 | |
warped whole person approach to the
activities? I think especially with | 2:32:00 | 2:32:06 | |
social media companies like Google
and Facebook, who make vast profits | 2:32:06 | 2:32:09 | |
and have such an influence on life.
This week, Prince William made a | 2:32:09 | 2:32:15 | |
speech at the children's summit in
Manchester. He highlighted the | 2:32:15 | 2:32:20 | |
problem of cyber bullying and called
on social media companies to be part | 2:32:20 | 2:32:24 | |
of the solution in combating online
harassment. As one of the patrons of | 2:32:24 | 2:32:31 | |
the foundation charity, I welcome
this. As the state has taken over | 2:32:31 | 2:32:34 | |
more and more about education, that
original whole person approach to | 2:32:34 | 2:32:40 | |
learning has been sacrificed
somewhat on the altar of results and | 2:32:40 | 2:32:44 | |
the obsession with university
degrees. The importance of spiritual | 2:32:44 | 2:32:49 | |
and emotional well-being has been
overshadowed. The recent race | 2:32:49 | 2:32:53 | |
disparity audit commissioned by the
Prime Minister confirmed that people | 2:32:53 | 2:32:56 | |
are treated differently in Britain
depended on their race. All I will | 2:32:56 | 2:33:00 | |
say about that is I do hope it leads
to action. The visible body is | 2:33:00 | 2:33:06 | |
obviously a vital part of the whole
person. Sport should be an important | 2:33:06 | 2:33:12 | |
element of every school curriculum,
so it's sad that over 100 schools | 2:33:12 | 2:33:14 | |
have sold the playing fields, and
that trend is still continuing. The | 2:33:14 | 2:33:24 | |
spit it is also part of the whole
person, creativity and imagination | 2:33:24 | 2:33:28 | |
nourish the spirit. For a number of
years, I was Chancellor of | 2:33:28 | 2:33:32 | |
Bournemouth University, which was a
centre of excellence for broadcast | 2:33:32 | 2:33:36 | |
media, having its own dedicated
media Centre. It was an honour for | 2:33:36 | 2:33:41 | |
me to speak on behalf of the then
government to the creative | 2:33:41 | 2:33:45 | |
industries conference. I emphasise
the need for the world of education | 2:33:45 | 2:33:49 | |
to work in partnership with business
and the creative industries. We have | 2:33:49 | 2:33:52 | |
additional skills gap in the
economy, costing billions of pounds | 2:33:52 | 2:33:59 | |
a year. I welcome the announcement
of new tier levels for 16 to | 2:33:59 | 2:34:07 | |
19-year-olds, which are technical
alternative to A-levels, focused on | 2:34:07 | 2:34:11 | |
practical skills. But we do have
problems with apprenticeships, which | 2:34:11 | 2:34:15 | |
have fallen by 69%, so I would like
the Minister to say how he's going | 2:34:15 | 2:34:21 | |
to address that problem. The
apprentice must have confidence that | 2:34:21 | 2:34:24 | |
at the end of their training, the
result will be the famous words, | 2:34:24 | 2:34:29 | |
you're hired, not, you are fired.
It's also important to point out | 2:34:29 | 2:34:35 | |
that education and the purpose of
life is the life of purpose. The | 2:34:35 | 2:34:38 | |
best education is where we are
learning how to live, not just | 2:34:38 | 2:34:45 | |
living to learn. As the American
educator Frederick Douglass said, it | 2:34:45 | 2:34:53 | |
is easier to build strong children
than repair broken men. I would like | 2:34:53 | 2:35:02 | |
to thank the most Reverend Prime it
for introducing this debate today at | 2:35:02 | 2:35:06 | |
having listened to all the
contributions, I think what a | 2:35:06 | 2:35:09 | |
wonderful variety we are going to
have. I would like to reflect on | 2:35:09 | 2:35:14 | |
three things. Firstly, the role of
education, and in my case, with | 2:35:14 | 2:35:18 | |
reference to work and culture.
Secondly, speak about | 2:35:18 | 2:35:23 | |
apprenticeships. And thirdly,
enabling those with learning | 2:35:23 | 2:35:27 | |
difficulties to achieve their
potential. Having left school at 16 | 2:35:27 | 2:35:32 | |
to study a one-year general farming
course in Northamptonshire, I'm only | 2:35:32 | 2:35:37 | |
too keenly aware of the enormous
changes that have taken place within | 2:35:37 | 2:35:41 | |
that farming industry. And yes,
unskilled Labour is still needed, | 2:35:41 | 2:35:46 | |
but the many changes we have seen
have been caused by the expansion of | 2:35:46 | 2:35:50 | |
modern machinery, of scientific
research, of technology, of | 2:35:50 | 2:35:55 | |
engineering, of improvements on
digital equipment, robotics and | 2:35:55 | 2:36:02 | |
indeed, on the development of
drones. These advances reflect the | 2:36:02 | 2:36:07 | |
skills of the workforce and the
dedication of teachers in schools | 2:36:07 | 2:36:10 | |
and colleges. Teachers have that
ability to inspire and challenge | 2:36:10 | 2:36:17 | |
pupils, and that this debate
reinforces that point. I only wish | 2:36:17 | 2:36:23 | |
that more teachers would encourage
students to consider agriculture as | 2:36:23 | 2:36:27 | |
a worthwhile career. The work done
at the Harbor University which was | 2:36:27 | 2:36:38 | |
formerly an agricultural college
this last year, gives a good | 2:36:38 | 2:36:42 | |
example. This last year has resulted
in them or me this week being | 2:36:42 | 2:36:48 | |
awarded the Queen 's anniversary for
the higher and further education | 2:36:48 | 2:36:52 | |
prize, recognising their hands-free
hectare initiative. They, walking | 2:36:52 | 2:36:57 | |
alongside Yorkshire -based Petitions
Decisions, cruelly crop of barley | 2:36:57 | 2:37:05 | |
using robotics and drones, nor
manpower being in the field at any | 2:37:05 | 2:37:10 | |
time, through the various
operations. Today, GPS systems and | 2:37:10 | 2:37:16 | |
drones can pinpoint the amount of
dressing needed at certain points of | 2:37:16 | 2:37:19 | |
the field and even help individual
plants. Secondly, I'd like to | 2:37:19 | 2:37:26 | |
congratulate the government on its
commitment to the apprenticeship | 2:37:26 | 2:37:30 | |
schemes, but like others, and
concerned about the falling numbers. | 2:37:30 | 2:37:34 | |
Because these schemes enable
students to gain skills while | 2:37:34 | 2:37:38 | |
working. The businesses that I have
visited value their apprentices, | 2:37:38 | 2:37:44 | |
speaking of their commitments to
gain skills, thus bringing benefits | 2:37:44 | 2:37:48 | |
to the company, but also to the
individual concerned. And I must | 2:37:48 | 2:37:53 | |
welcome the recent announcement in
the budget of the National | 2:37:53 | 2:37:58 | |
Retraining Scheme, which helps older
people to gain new skills necessary | 2:37:58 | 2:38:03 | |
for their enhancement and also for
the provision of some £384 million | 2:38:03 | 2:38:07 | |
to increase the number of fully
qualified computer science teachers. | 2:38:07 | 2:38:13 | |
I'm sorry my local friend Lord Baker
is not in his place at the moment, | 2:38:13 | 2:38:16 | |
because I think he would be very
pleased with that announcement. | 2:38:16 | 2:38:21 | |
Working alongside the new National
Centre For Computing, I think is | 2:38:21 | 2:38:26 | |
good news. My only concern is the
reported current decline in the | 2:38:26 | 2:38:32 | |
numbers taking up the
apprenticeships. I hope the Minister | 2:38:32 | 2:38:35 | |
will give an explanation and can
give some reassurance to us today. | 2:38:35 | 2:38:43 | |
Then surely right that we should
have the opportunity to achieve as | 2:38:43 | 2:38:47 | |
well if you have the challenges,
they may not become the high fliers | 2:38:47 | 2:38:50 | |
but with care, encouragement, scale
can offer high and important jobs in | 2:38:50 | 2:38:56 | |
future years. I know that some
special schools are coming under | 2:38:56 | 2:39:00 | |
increasing threat of closure and
indeed in Leicestershire, my home | 2:39:00 | 2:39:06 | |
county, one school which I
understand has recently reported as | 2:39:06 | 2:39:10 | |
outstanding may have its residential
element closed. I simply ask the | 2:39:10 | 2:39:15 | |
Minister whether there has been any
analysis review recently, | 2:39:15 | 2:39:18 | |
nationally. My Lords, in the time I
had, it is not impossible to include | 2:39:18 | 2:39:26 | |
something and very dare talk about
it at great length and that is the | 2:39:26 | 2:39:30 | |
importance of values which have been
spoken about by others. I hope | 2:39:30 | 2:39:34 | |
however that all those involved in
teaching and training will stress | 2:39:34 | 2:39:38 | |
the worth of long life learning. I
shoot say lifelong learning. I will | 2:39:38 | 2:39:47 | |
also add the operation of honesty in
what one is doing. Our present | 2:39:47 | 2:39:52 | |
system is based on Christian
beliefs. I believe it is deeply | 2:39:52 | 2:39:59 | |
important to day as it was when it
started and indeed other noble lords | 2:39:59 | 2:40:03 | |
have spoken about the importance of
coming and having support of loving | 2:40:03 | 2:40:08 | |
and supportive families. My Lords,
that is not for everyone. I read | 2:40:08 | 2:40:15 | |
when my husband was a local governor
of a primary school one of the | 2:40:15 | 2:40:19 | |
children was referred to the
headmaster and she sat in and was | 2:40:19 | 2:40:23 | |
trying to encourage the mother to
help with reading out of hours in | 2:40:23 | 2:40:28 | |
their own home to which this mother
turned round and said, that's not my | 2:40:28 | 2:40:32 | |
business comment your business to
teach my child. My Lords, I think in | 2:40:32 | 2:40:38 | |
some way we have gone a long way
away from having that support which | 2:40:38 | 2:40:43 | |
was there originally and I hope that
this debate will encourage everybody | 2:40:43 | 2:40:49 | |
to realise that it's not just about
education and learning but it is | 2:40:49 | 2:40:53 | |
about the values and the way which
we deal with each other and help | 2:40:53 | 2:40:58 | |
each other along the line that will
bring greater benefits to society as | 2:40:58 | 2:41:03 | |
a whole. I would like to join in
thanking most warmly the honourable | 2:41:03 | 2:41:12 | |
member forum not only having given
us the opportunity for this vital | 2:41:12 | 2:41:16 | |
debate but for the very challenging
and thought-provoking way in which | 2:41:16 | 2:41:20 | |
it was introduced. I also would like
to put on record how moved I was by | 2:41:20 | 2:41:29 | |
the contribution. It had real
resonance for me because I went to | 2:41:29 | 2:41:36 | |
an independent school whereat the
time I was there, a third of the | 2:41:36 | 2:41:39 | |
boys were Jewish. I came to respect
deeply the Jewish culture and the | 2:41:39 | 2:41:48 | |
importance that it put on education.
And the importance it put on values. | 2:41:48 | 2:41:53 | |
I think the very important part of
my education in my formative years | 2:41:53 | 2:41:59 | |
was being at a school like that. I
might just say that this is why I | 2:41:59 | 2:42:07 | |
became so particularly profoundly
saddened by the policies of the | 2:42:07 | 2:42:13 | |
Israeli governments. My Lords, one
of the things that really worries me | 2:42:13 | 2:42:21 | |
in my old age is the confusion
between citizenship and consumerism. | 2:42:21 | 2:42:27 | |
I think it is a confusion that is
sometimes quite deliberately | 2:42:27 | 2:42:30 | |
fostered. I was discussing the issue
with my honourable friend and it | 2:42:30 | 2:42:42 | |
came up that there was never more
questions opportunity to express | 2:42:42 | 2:42:47 | |
yourself under consumerist culture
and I that is completely against the | 2:42:47 | 2:42:51 | |
point. They point up bout
citizenship is what should be the | 2:42:51 | 2:42:55 | |
question, not one of the things I
should put any questions put by | 2:42:55 | 2:43:01 | |
those who set them. -- set the test.
The other thing that I'm deeply | 2:43:01 | 2:43:09 | |
concerned about NI all the years is
the importance of the nature of | 2:43:09 | 2:43:14 | |
citizenship. -- concerned about in
my older years. I'm glad the point | 2:43:14 | 2:43:23 | |
was made about the global dimension
to this because of course one of the | 2:43:23 | 2:43:28 | |
things that children must understand
throughout the education is the | 2:43:28 | 2:43:32 | |
total interdependence of the global
community. The other thing I want to | 2:43:32 | 2:43:38 | |
mention in terms of my anxieties is
the confusion between the use of the | 2:43:38 | 2:43:47 | |
term education and the use of the
term vocational training. For a lot | 2:43:47 | 2:43:53 | |
of people, I don't think they really
make a distinction. There is a very | 2:43:53 | 2:43:59 | |
profound distinction because while
vocational training is vital and | 2:43:59 | 2:44:05 | |
that has been emphasised in this
debate, it is not education that is | 2:44:05 | 2:44:11 | |
necessary. Education is about the
whole person, it is about enabling | 2:44:11 | 2:44:16 | |
youngsters to become what they might
have been in every way. If I just | 2:44:16 | 2:44:21 | |
boot in ferry briefly in a
colloquial way, I would be happy in | 2:44:21 | 2:44:26 | |
the society when you try to fix the
leak and find yourself in a | 2:44:26 | 2:44:39 | |
conversation of the performance of a
Shakespeare play. -- put in a very | 2:44:39 | 2:44:46 | |
brief way. When we talk about
vocational training, what we are in | 2:44:46 | 2:44:49 | |
fact talking about is encouraging
thousands of our youngsters to not | 2:44:49 | 2:44:58 | |
have the opportunity to realise
their full potential as being but to | 2:44:58 | 2:45:00 | |
be prepared as useful contributors
to the society which Colin France. | 2:45:00 | 2:45:09 | |
-- which confronts. Another thing I
would like to speak about his mental | 2:45:09 | 2:45:16 | |
health. Schools are the fact to a
nerve centre for detecting mental | 2:45:16 | 2:45:23 | |
health. -- de facto. But also for a
child abuse and poverty where a | 2:45:23 | 2:45:34 | |
slice of the many schools take the
challenges very seriously and I | 2:45:34 | 2:45:37 | |
believe we should give them all
possible support. My Lords, I don't | 2:45:37 | 2:45:44 | |
think we should leave the debate
like this without facing up to some | 2:45:44 | 2:45:51 | |
of the underlying challenges in the
wider structural way in which our | 2:45:51 | 2:45:56 | |
education is provided. The problem
with cell activity is a divisive | 2:45:56 | 2:46:01 | |
pack -- the problem is cell activity
is a divisive factor. -- | 2:46:01 | 2:46:07 | |
selectivity. I come from an
independent school but I'm the first | 2:46:07 | 2:46:12 | |
to realise that we don't speak about
social divisiveness of this too | 2:46:12 | 2:46:22 | |
often. We have to make sure children
do not monopolise the power | 2:46:22 | 2:46:27 | |
structures of society. We need to
face up to this question, the noble | 2:46:27 | 2:46:34 | |
lord made some very telling points
about partnerships as they are going | 2:46:34 | 2:46:38 | |
on and I'm sure he would agree that
it is a much more deeply challenging | 2:46:38 | 2:46:43 | |
issue than just this. It is also...
Selectivity, we have to look at in | 2:46:43 | 2:46:52 | |
our own educational system and if I
may say so, as somebody who is | 2:46:52 | 2:46:58 | |
really encouraged by the Right
Reverend's speech. I think there is | 2:46:58 | 2:47:07 | |
still a lot of work to do on this
because I detect that 70% of state | 2:47:07 | 2:47:17 | |
secondary schools still select. I
think I'm fair in saying that some | 2:47:17 | 2:47:26 | |
30% select most of their people on
religious counts. On any kind of | 2:47:26 | 2:47:35 | |
society we live, we have to look at
the implications of social | 2:47:35 | 2:47:38 | |
divisiveness in this and I say this
as a active member. And as someone | 2:47:38 | 2:47:48 | |
whose children and grandchildren
have all started education in church | 2:47:48 | 2:47:50 | |
schools. Why? Because we mustn't
stick with the dogma. They started | 2:47:50 | 2:48:01 | |
because they saw their parents --
their parents saw the liberal | 2:48:01 | 2:48:07 | |
education and all the ideas we were
talking about being particularly | 2:48:07 | 2:48:09 | |
well nurtured in church schools and
I think that is perhaps a paradox | 2:48:09 | 2:48:15 | |
but it's one that's real. Finally,
my last point is simply this. ABN | 2:48:15 | 2:48:21 | |
AMRO version clearly school
assemblies become divisive, to? -- | 2:48:21 | 2:48:26 | |
do we let school assemblies? This
happens in the Church of Scotland in | 2:48:26 | 2:48:37 | |
Scotland by the human Society of
Scotland which has developed this | 2:48:37 | 2:48:41 | |
concept of a time for reflection
when to gather, the whole children, | 2:48:41 | 2:48:50 | |
whatever their background, can
reflect on common problems, common | 2:48:50 | 2:48:53 | |
values and begin to explore some of
the most sensitive, difficult | 2:48:53 | 2:48:57 | |
subjects that they are going to
face. I, too, thank the Reverend | 2:48:57 | 2:49:05 | |
forum bringing forward this debate
and for naming the recently | 2:49:05 | 2:49:09 | |
established Church of England
foundation for educational | 2:49:09 | 2:49:11 | |
leadership of which I am privileged
to be a trustee. I am delighted that | 2:49:11 | 2:49:18 | |
we have 116 Church of England
schools, not single faith schools | 2:49:18 | 2:49:23 | |
but centres of community cohesion in
urban and rural areas committed to | 2:49:23 | 2:49:28 | |
offering each child the opportunity
to discover life in all its fullness | 2:49:28 | 2:49:34 | |
as spoken about by Jesus Christ. The
Church of England's vision for | 2:49:34 | 2:49:39 | |
education highlights the ideas of
wisdom, hope, dignity and community | 2:49:39 | 2:49:44 | |
and we aim to make our schools
places where fulfilling academic | 2:49:44 | 2:49:50 | |
potential is not separate from
spiritual, moral and social | 2:49:50 | 2:49:56 | |
development. Any brief amount of
time I have, I would like to focus | 2:49:56 | 2:50:00 | |
on three areas that are crucial to
children and young people | 2:50:00 | 2:50:03 | |
flourishing and thriving in
education. Firstly, preparation. In | 2:50:03 | 2:50:11 | |
94 local authorities, almost one
third of the country, less than half | 2:50:11 | 2:50:15 | |
of all disadvantaged five-year-olds
are development ready mentally for | 2:50:15 | 2:50:22 | |
school. As said already, early
intervention has a marked impact on | 2:50:22 | 2:50:28 | |
a child's life prospects and without
help and support, we cannot expect | 2:50:28 | 2:50:32 | |
children to show up at school ready
to go. Children are -- faith groups | 2:50:32 | 2:50:40 | |
across the country do men's jobs of
running parent and toddler groups | 2:50:40 | 2:50:44 | |
and programmes which support very
young children and their parents | 2:50:44 | 2:50:47 | |
however partnership and
collaboration with local and central | 2:50:47 | 2:50:49 | |
governments is required. More than
400 children's centres have closed | 2:50:49 | 2:50:56 | |
since 2010 and the life chances
strategy promised by the previous | 2:50:56 | 2:51:03 | |
Prime Minister was dropped in
December 20 16. Surely a vision for | 2:51:03 | 2:51:08 | |
giving children the best possible
start in life is a necessity. | 2:51:08 | 2:51:14 | |
Secondly, we must remove barriers to
children flourishing as has already | 2:51:14 | 2:51:18 | |
been mentioned in this debate, there
are many. Let me underline just | 2:51:18 | 2:51:21 | |
eight few of which the first is
poverty. -- just a few. The | 2:51:21 | 2:51:31 | |
Children's Society led a commission
on poverty and since the publication | 2:51:31 | 2:51:34 | |
of a report, there has been work
with Church of England schools to | 2:51:34 | 2:51:39 | |
poverty prove the school week. That
includes such things as ensuring | 2:51:39 | 2:51:48 | |
school uniforms are affordable,
transport is accessible and that | 2:51:48 | 2:51:51 | |
there is no stigma attached to
claiming a free school meals. Then | 2:51:51 | 2:51:54 | |
there is the need to remove barriers
to helping children with physical | 2:51:54 | 2:52:00 | |
and learning disabilities flourish,
not least when it comes to further | 2:52:00 | 2:52:03 | |
education is moving into adult food.
In Gloucestershire, we're lucky to | 2:52:03 | 2:52:07 | |
have a college for young adults of
complex disabilities and learning | 2:52:07 | 2:52:11 | |
difficulties but to access such
thing, you need an education health | 2:52:11 | 2:52:19 | |
and care plan. In 2016, local
authorities turned down nearly | 2:52:19 | 2:52:24 | |
15,000 requests for such a plan.
Last year, National Star College | 2:52:24 | 2:52:31 | |
supported 11 students who went to
tribunal to obtain funding and ten | 2:52:31 | 2:52:37 | |
were settled just before the
hearings were held and often months | 2:52:37 | 2:52:43 | |
after the beginning of the academic
year. The parents of those children | 2:52:43 | 2:52:47 | |
had stamina and a good education but
what about the others? A number of | 2:52:47 | 2:52:55 | |
noble lords have spoken already
about the barriers due to mental | 2:52:55 | 2:52:58 | |
health and I wish to endorse all
that has been said. I would also | 2:52:58 | 2:53:03 | |
like to endorse what has been said
about school exclusion. We know that | 2:53:03 | 2:53:07 | |
children excluded from school are
ten times more likely to suffer | 2:53:07 | 2:53:10 | |
recognised mental health problems.
Only 1% of excluded children get | 2:53:10 | 2:53:18 | |
five good GCSEss and the number of
children permanently excluded has | 2:53:18 | 2:53:23 | |
risen 40% in the last four years. In
my own diocese, Gloucestershire has | 2:53:23 | 2:53:29 | |
the highest rate of school exclusion
any south-west. We need to find | 2:53:29 | 2:53:34 | |
effective mechanisms to help
disadvantaged children stay and | 2:53:34 | 2:53:38 | |
thrive in school. As part of that, I
believe we need our schools to be | 2:53:38 | 2:53:43 | |
trauma informed. There was no time
to go now into the detail of our | 2:53:43 | 2:53:46 | |
childhood experiences, ten traumatic
events which can occur before the | 2:53:46 | 2:53:54 | |
age of 18. But focusing on these and
working with a child's story about | 2:53:54 | 2:53:58 | |
what has happened to them rather
than presenting behaviour is shown | 2:53:58 | 2:54:03 | |
to be effective in bringing about
positive change. | 2:54:03 | 2:54:09 | |
I would like to see this approach
encouraged by local and central | 2:54:09 | 2:54:14 | |
government. It's about the values of
dignity and hope. Finally, I want to | 2:54:14 | 2:54:18 | |
say something about relationship,
which I believe his quarter of what | 2:54:18 | 2:54:22 | |
it means for us to be human and made
in the image of God. My ongoing | 2:54:22 | 2:54:27 | |
visits to schools remind me that we
have much to do to make sure that | 2:54:27 | 2:54:31 | |
education not only recognises and
affirms the dignity and value of | 2:54:31 | 2:54:35 | |
each child and a person, but that it
enables them to appreciate and | 2:54:35 | 2:54:49 | |
value each other, including those
who are different from themselves. | 2:54:55 | 2:54:57 | |
Just in the past two weeks, I
visited a primary school, a | 2:54:57 | 2:55:00 | |
secondary school and college, where
I have engaged in conversation with | 2:55:00 | 2:55:02 | |
children and young people about body
image and not taking our value from | 2:55:02 | 2:55:04 | |
physical appearance, so often
promoted by social media. Those | 2:55:04 | 2:55:06 | |
conversations with those young
people have led to conversations | 2:55:06 | 2:55:08 | |
about what they value in each other,
which is more than simply pressing a | 2:55:08 | 2:55:12 | |
lake on a social media platform. The
response from butcher people has | 2:55:12 | 2:55:16 | |
been rewarding and poignant, as they
have affirmed one another in who | 2:55:16 | 2:55:19 | |
they are and how they are different
from one another. Our workplaces of | 2:55:19 | 2:55:26 | |
education shaped and reflect the
society we live in. For children to | 2:55:26 | 2:55:30 | |
flourish as adults, they must be
enabled to flourish in their | 2:55:30 | 2:55:34 | |
education. By investing in early
years, by including the | 2:55:34 | 2:55:39 | |
disadvantaged and by building
communities of good relationship in | 2:55:39 | 2:55:44 | |
schools, colleges and universities,
we can use education to shape a | 2:55:44 | 2:55:48 | |
flourishing society. I would first
like to thank the archbishop for | 2:55:48 | 2:55:58 | |
opening this debate. He compared
himself to the John Lewis advert, | 2:55:58 | 2:56:03 | |
looked forward to, shall we say,
looked forward to very much here, | 2:56:03 | 2:56:08 | |
maybe a wider audience should know
about this and maybe more people | 2:56:08 | 2:56:12 | |
should tune in. But very much look
forward to hear. Also, he started | 2:56:12 | 2:56:19 | |
off with commenting about a big
picture and division, which I think | 2:56:19 | 2:56:23 | |
it's very important. And others have
commented with their visions which | 2:56:23 | 2:56:27 | |
have disagreed or agreed, but mainly
overlapped. The fact that we have a | 2:56:27 | 2:56:32 | |
grand vision or strategy for
education. I will be concentrating | 2:56:32 | 2:56:38 | |
in my few remarks on a feud tactical
issues or practical issues for | 2:56:38 | 2:56:45 | |
specific groups. Many people here
will probably be getting that I'm | 2:56:45 | 2:56:49 | |
going to talk about dyslexia and
special educational needs, and I've | 2:56:49 | 2:56:53 | |
referred the house to my interest in
these fields, but also how this | 2:56:53 | 2:56:57 | |
group, this large group, actually,
if you get it wrong, the chain of | 2:56:57 | 2:57:05 | |
events and commands, what's going
through, doesn't work. And to start | 2:57:05 | 2:57:09 | |
by looking at a couple of things in
the education system, and I have | 2:57:09 | 2:57:14 | |
given the Minister warning that I
was going to ask these questions. | 2:57:14 | 2:57:20 | |
How are we doing about making sure
that our teaching profession is | 2:57:20 | 2:57:25 | |
better prepared to handle these
diverse groups, who have different | 2:57:25 | 2:57:29 | |
learning patterns? Which means that
when they get into the classroom, | 2:57:29 | 2:57:34 | |
the way you are teaching the
mainstream, the efficient, | 2:57:34 | 2:57:38 | |
established, traditional ways of
teaching them, don't work for these | 2:57:38 | 2:57:40 | |
groups. Dyslexia is about 10%, you
then have cooccurrence with other | 2:57:40 | 2:57:49 | |
groups like dyspraxia, muscle
control. Do teachers know how to | 2:57:49 | 2:57:55 | |
tell if someone isn't spelling
something correctly because they | 2:57:55 | 2:57:57 | |
cannot hold a pen any longer because
they don't understand what the | 2:57:57 | 2:58:01 | |
symbols mean? Those are very
difficult skills to have | 2:58:01 | 2:58:06 | |
established. When it comes to
dyscalculia, is somebody not knowing | 2:58:06 | 2:58:12 | |
their mathematical targets in front
of them because they cannot remember | 2:58:12 | 2:58:15 | |
the equation? Dyslexic Rob Lumb, or
a dyscalculia who doesn't understand | 2:58:15 | 2:58:23 | |
the problems of numbers. You're
asking a lot of somebody there. We | 2:58:23 | 2:58:30 | |
have had recent changes to education
and it was, if I have scribbled it | 2:58:30 | 2:58:34 | |
down correctly, contents of initial
teacher training that was published | 2:58:34 | 2:58:38 | |
last year. A dry document, but very
importantly, in this, we had a | 2:58:38 | 2:58:44 | |
commitment that people should have
some better knowledge in this | 2:58:44 | 2:58:46 | |
training. How far has this been
developed? How have fired as it | 2:58:46 | 2:58:53 | |
ingrained, how is it going? If we
only rely on initial teacher | 2:58:53 | 2:58:57 | |
training, we will have a properly
educated teacher training workforce | 2:58:57 | 2:59:03 | |
within two decades. Two decades
away. Lord Birt made a very | 2:59:03 | 2:59:10 | |
important point. Failure is
incredibly expensive. At all levels. | 2:59:10 | 2:59:16 | |
Failure, not only in the school
system, but the job market, you are | 2:59:16 | 2:59:22 | |
underemployed afterwords are
unemployed. The most we can get in | 2:59:22 | 2:59:24 | |
there, what are we doing? How are we
driving this on? So what is | 2:59:24 | 2:59:30 | |
happening with continual
professional development to back up | 2:59:30 | 2:59:33 | |
their initial teacher training? That
is important, because without this, | 2:59:33 | 2:59:37 | |
you are not going to get through and
get the people into position, where | 2:59:37 | 2:59:41 | |
they can actually benefit from any
type of education. To move slightly | 2:59:41 | 2:59:47 | |
on through the educational progress
to further education, we have got an | 2:59:47 | 2:59:53 | |
interesting situation, and when it
comes to apprenticeships. I have | 2:59:53 | 2:59:57 | |
form when it comes to
apprenticeships and dyslexia. Many | 2:59:57 | 3:00:01 | |
people here will be wincing, not bat
again. My noble friend laughs and | 3:00:01 | 3:00:09 | |
well she might. We managed to
establish, after many years, after | 3:00:09 | 3:00:14 | |
an initial unintended consequences,
when we had an apprenticeship at all | 3:00:14 | 3:00:24 | |
and said everyone should have
English and maths. Asked at the | 3:00:24 | 3:00:27 | |
time, you're not going to make every
dyslexic pass an English paper? Of | 3:00:27 | 3:00:32 | |
course we want. When the bill was
enacted, that is exactly what | 3:00:32 | 3:00:35 | |
happened. People failed. It took a
long time and it wasn't until 2014, | 3:00:35 | 3:00:43 | |
when the Children And Families Act
got it changed. You are asking why | 3:00:43 | 3:00:47 | |
am raising it again. Because the new
guidelines for apprenticeships as | 3:00:47 | 3:00:51 | |
saying that only those who have the
education and health care plan or | 3:00:51 | 3:00:56 | |
the old statement, are going to get
help. To refer you to the first part | 3:00:56 | 3:01:01 | |
of what I was saying, it is an
established fact within the | 3:01:01 | 3:01:05 | |
education system that most people
who have got hidden education | 3:01:05 | 3:01:10 | |
problems, dyslexia, dyspraxia, you
name it, they are not severe enough | 3:01:10 | 3:01:16 | |
to get a planner statement. The vast
majority of this group will not be | 3:01:16 | 3:01:19 | |
covered by this and they are the
only group who apparently are going | 3:01:19 | 3:01:22 | |
to be helped. You have once again
guaranteed failure. This is where | 3:01:22 | 3:01:31 | |
the clock up School of history comes
to mind. Are we actually going to | 3:01:31 | 3:01:34 | |
enforce and bring in something else
that means you're not going to help? | 3:01:34 | 3:01:38 | |
Even if you have the correct
training until this point, it isn't | 3:01:38 | 3:01:41 | |
just a case of work harder, your
brain is differently constructed. | 3:01:41 | 3:01:48 | |
New loans don't connect together.
You can't do this. You can improve | 3:01:48 | 3:01:53 | |
it, you will never remove it. If we
insist on having this very high | 3:01:53 | 3:01:58 | |
level of identification, which
schools resist, because it affects | 3:01:58 | 3:02:00 | |
their budgets, and generally,
middle-class parents, the tiger | 3:02:00 | 3:02:06 | |
print tears soon get the
identification, we're guaranteeing | 3:02:06 | 3:02:09 | |
that those groups at the lowest
level of attainment and the highest | 3:02:09 | 3:02:15 | |
level of failure, will once again be
punished. This cannot be right. Can | 3:02:15 | 3:02:20 | |
the Minister give me some assurance
that better forms of identification | 3:02:20 | 3:02:26 | |
will actually be addressed? You
suddenly have a situation where | 3:02:26 | 3:02:31 | |
clearly further education and
mainstream school education are not | 3:02:31 | 3:02:37 | |
talking to each other. And I don't
know which one is breaking more of | 3:02:37 | 3:02:44 | |
the Equality Act, but there are
definitely doing it. Because you've | 3:02:44 | 3:02:47 | |
got somebody with the problem down
there that isn't being addressed. I | 3:02:47 | 3:02:51 | |
could go on to one or two of the
problems and hired education. But I | 3:02:51 | 3:02:55 | |
have run out of time and we have a
question coming up next Thursday. | 3:02:55 | 3:03:00 | |
Seats are available, I still feel.
But can the Minister give me an | 3:03:00 | 3:03:06 | |
assurance that this problem will be
addressed? This one about the | 3:03:06 | 3:03:12 | |
apprenticeships, because if he
hasn't, we will go back to square | 3:03:12 | 3:03:15 | |
one. Maybe not one, but one a at
least. I am not quite sure I will be | 3:03:15 | 3:03:23 | |
able to follow him down his road,
but I would like to refer to Lady | 3:03:23 | 3:03:36 | |
McIntosh's debts to the Bible. I
share that debt, particularly, I | 3:03:36 | 3:03:40 | |
think, to the old Testament, and I
would add to that Shakespeare, | 3:03:40 | 3:03:48 | |
wiping, a dash of Freud and probably
one knows as much about human nature | 3:03:48 | 3:03:55 | |
as you are likely to learn. The Most
Noble Primates was encouraging us to | 3:03:55 | 3:04:06 | |
find foundations, to look for their
basis upon which we make our | 3:04:06 | 3:04:11 | |
enduring progress and to find it.
And also, whilst doing that, to make | 3:04:11 | 3:04:22 | |
sure that we carry our values with
us. And this is indeed a very deep | 3:04:22 | 3:04:31 | |
search, in order that people shall
achieve the fullest life that is | 3:04:31 | 3:04:37 | |
available to them. And he urged us
to reject utilitarianism. I am | 3:04:37 | 3:04:48 | |
rereading Dickens, and I have just
read Hard Times. Mr Gradgrind was | 3:04:48 | 3:04:56 | |
completely pinned down by
utilitarianism, and the mess that | 3:04:56 | 3:05:01 | |
was made of his two older children,
one, a girl, and one, a boy, takes a | 3:05:01 | 3:05:09 | |
bit of reading. In fact, I
thoroughly recommend it, if you want | 3:05:09 | 3:05:12 | |
to study the failure of education.
And I think when we are troubled by | 3:05:12 | 3:05:22 | |
what is happening now, we should
just remember that things are a lot | 3:05:22 | 3:05:25 | |
better than they were then in the
1850s and 1860s. It was a model. It | 3:05:25 | 3:05:33 | |
remains a muddle. But the question
is, how are we coping? The | 3:05:33 | 3:05:40 | |
conclusion of this debate so far is
that too many people are not coping, | 3:05:40 | 3:05:45 | |
and so again, I look for a
foundation. And one of them to me is | 3:05:45 | 3:05:50 | |
that everybody is on a journey of
their own, and when we think about | 3:05:50 | 3:05:57 | |
what is happening to them, we need
to remember their individuality, not | 3:05:57 | 3:06:02 | |
to take it too far, but remembered
it. And to remember that the word | 3:06:02 | 3:06:08 | |
education comes from a Latin word
which means to draw out. I think | 3:06:08 | 3:06:16 | |
that what we are on in this journey
is that, with parents, with | 3:06:16 | 3:06:20 | |
teachers, with friends, with
colleagues, we are asking the | 3:06:20 | 3:06:25 | |
question at the beginning, who is
this individual? And the individual | 3:06:25 | 3:06:33 | |
comes after a short period to ask
the question, who am I? And then we | 3:06:33 | 3:06:40 | |
continue the dialogue with the
debate about, if that's who you | 3:06:40 | 3:06:45 | |
think you are, who are you? And so
people discover themselves. And | 3:06:45 | 3:06:50 | |
while schools play a very important
part in this process, it is only a | 3:06:50 | 3:06:56 | |
part, and I do believe we should
remember that very strongly. That it | 3:06:56 | 3:07:01 | |
is only a part. And the society we
get will result from these | 3:07:01 | 3:07:10 | |
dialogues, as individuals find their
way on the journey. Which is in | 3:07:10 | 3:07:16 | |
preparation for them to be able to
recognise the opportunities and the | 3:07:16 | 3:07:21 | |
threats, to come to see who we are
and to come to see what we can and | 3:07:21 | 3:07:27 | |
what we cannot do, so that we are
able to make the judgments and the | 3:07:27 | 3:07:33 | |
choices which face us. And a second
foundation, which has been much | 3:07:33 | 3:07:42 | |
referred to, is lifelong education.
Perhaps I would describe that as | 3:07:42 | 3:07:48 | |
getting through a long life. And in
doing that, we can only do our best | 3:07:48 | 3:07:57 | |
to cope, particularly with change.
To continue to find what we now, to | 3:07:57 | 3:08:06 | |
continue to find what we don't know
and to continue to recognise that | 3:08:06 | 3:08:12 | |
there are many things that we don't
know, that we don't know and that | 3:08:12 | 3:08:17 | |
last big circle of the unknown is
constantly increasing. I think my | 3:08:17 | 3:08:27 | |
final illustration of that change is
that a boy in Hartford aged 19 | 3:08:27 | 3:08:35 | |
started writing programmes and 13
years later, it's Facebook and all | 3:08:35 | 3:08:46 | |
Facebook's subsidiaries. That, to
somebody who has great | 3:08:46 | 3:08:53 | |
grandchildren, is a fairly shattered
and thought, that that can be done | 3:08:53 | 3:08:56 | |
and can have the effect that it's
having, with 2 billion users. | 3:08:56 | 3:09:04 | |
Established in 13 years, which is
not much more than half a | 3:09:04 | 3:09:09 | |
generation. And also to reflect that
in my village in North Yorkshire, on | 3:09:09 | 3:09:17 | |
the agenda, that is an item called
drones. Drones are of great | 3:09:17 | 3:09:23 | |
importance around the village of
Malton. | 3:09:23 | 3:09:29 | |
If they're below was a time to look
for and find foundations, it must be | 3:09:29 | 3:09:34 | |
now. -- if ever there was. We must
continue our search. When the | 3:09:34 | 3:09:46 | |
Reverend introduced to eloquently
our debate this afternoon, now this | 3:09:46 | 3:09:52 | |
afternoon, he referred rightly to
the role of the church and the | 3:09:52 | 3:09:59 | |
members of the church in developing
towards universal education in | 3:09:59 | 3:10:06 | |
England any 19th-century. I am of
course particularly proud that in | 3:10:06 | 3:10:13 | |
Scotland we were taking these steps
in the 17th century with the first | 3:10:13 | 3:10:18 | |
legislation for a school in every
parish. One of the reasons why in | 3:10:18 | 3:10:23 | |
the union of 1707, education and the
relative autonomy of Scottish | 3:10:23 | 3:10:29 | |
education was preserved as part of
the agreements of that time. Partly | 3:10:29 | 3:10:35 | |
for that reason, I have not spoken
often about education in the chamber | 3:10:35 | 3:10:40 | |
was rightly nowadays Scottish
education is in the remit or the | 3:10:40 | 3:10:45 | |
autonomous Scottish Parliament but I
do think there are some issues in | 3:10:45 | 3:10:50 | |
education across borders and I'm
delighted to have the opportunity to | 3:10:50 | 3:10:53 | |
have referred to some of them to
day. Are you prepare your Lordship's | 3:10:53 | 3:11:00 | |
chamber tonight entry in the
register which perhaps | 3:11:00 | 3:11:03 | |
understandably reflects my lifelong
passion and interest in education. | 3:11:03 | 3:11:09 | |
And some of my current interests.
The primary school teacher I had the | 3:11:09 | 3:11:15 | |
age of seven can remember me saying
I wanted to become a sums teacher | 3:11:15 | 3:11:21 | |
and with a view changes and what
particular subject might have been | 3:11:21 | 3:11:25 | |
chosen in the decade or so that
followed, I did become a mathematics | 3:11:25 | 3:11:30 | |
teacher and enjoyed a profession
very much for a decade before | 3:11:30 | 3:11:36 | |
becoming a full-time employed in
politics. And I have always had a | 3:11:36 | 3:11:41 | |
passion for teaching but oh -- also
for the profession of teaching in | 3:11:41 | 3:11:48 | |
teachers and their importance in the
classroom. Very few of us can | 3:11:48 | 3:11:51 | |
remember individual pieces of
algebra or even actually individual, | 3:11:51 | 3:11:58 | |
in detail, cultural experiences we
had at that age about all of us can | 3:11:58 | 3:12:02 | |
remember the good teacher and the
bad teacher that have an impact on | 3:12:02 | 3:12:06 | |
us as individuals in our school
days. No matter what level people's | 3:12:06 | 3:12:12 | |
education has gone to order matter
what course in life they have | 3:12:12 | 3:12:15 | |
chosen, there will have been a
teacher, good or bad, that had an | 3:12:15 | 3:12:20 | |
impact on them, either inspiring
them demoralising them. The role of | 3:12:20 | 3:12:24 | |
individual teachers should never be
have forgotten by education | 3:12:24 | 3:12:29 | |
policymakers and governance. Debates
about funding, curriculum and policy | 3:12:29 | 3:12:33 | |
will come and go but ultimately the
person delivers that education in | 3:12:33 | 3:12:38 | |
the classroom is absolutely central
for the inspiring of every | 3:12:38 | 3:12:41 | |
generation. The second point I want
to make it about colleges. A lot of | 3:12:41 | 3:12:49 | |
reference to day about the training
and vocational education and so on. | 3:12:49 | 3:12:54 | |
I remain astonished at the amount of
time we spend in this country | 3:12:54 | 3:12:59 | |
debating the situation in our
universities and the lack of | 3:12:59 | 3:13:02 | |
reference in our media and public
debate to the situation in our | 3:13:02 | 3:13:07 | |
colleges in the wider sense of that
further and nonuniversity, higher | 3:13:07 | 3:13:13 | |
education. Debates about university
principals' salaries, debates about | 3:13:13 | 3:13:19 | |
fees, grants for students and access
to universities for people from | 3:13:19 | 3:13:23 | |
different walks of life, debates
about buildings, the global reach of | 3:13:23 | 3:13:27 | |
our universities, the subject they
teach colony nature and purpose of | 3:13:27 | 3:13:30 | |
universities but never a debate
about our colleges. Those colleges | 3:13:30 | 3:13:36 | |
are fundamental to the young people
and the lifelong learners that have | 3:13:36 | 3:13:39 | |
been mentioned in this debate to
day. Those colleges that are | 3:13:39 | 3:13:45 | |
fundamental to a section of the
population that made them much more | 3:13:45 | 3:13:47 | |
in many ways than those who will go
to university. Debates about those | 3:13:47 | 3:13:51 | |
colleges never seem to need to take
place and I regret that Adobe can | 3:13:51 | 3:13:56 | |
have debates like we have two day
and start to rectify that situation. | 3:13:56 | 3:14:01 | |
-- I regret that we do not have
those debates. It is a shame in all | 3:14:01 | 3:14:08 | |
four nations of this country that
those children that are looked after | 3:14:08 | 3:14:14 | |
by the state continued to this they
in the 21st century too happy with | 3:14:14 | 3:14:19 | |
educational opportunities and the
worst educational outcomes. That | 3:14:19 | 3:14:22 | |
should shame all of us and we need
to continue to for innovative and | 3:14:22 | 3:14:26 | |
imaginative solutions that give
those on children in the care of the | 3:14:26 | 3:14:29 | |
state in any sense the opportunities
at least as good as others have. I | 3:14:29 | 3:14:39 | |
would just refer the noble lords,
the minister, and his department to | 3:14:39 | 3:14:42 | |
what they may not be aware of
because it is in Scotland but there | 3:14:42 | 3:14:45 | |
is some phenomenal work going on
right now by a charity called MCR | 3:14:45 | 3:14:53 | |
Pathways that has transformed the
way children are taught in schools | 3:14:53 | 3:15:01 | |
and that may be taking on to a
national level, that is based on | 3:15:01 | 3:15:04 | |
mentoring of the flute after
children, volunteer mentoring in the | 3:15:04 | 3:15:07 | |
community which I think has had
quite dramatic effects. The final | 3:15:07 | 3:15:11 | |
point I want to make is to go beyond
our borders. Education is important | 3:15:11 | 3:15:15 | |
here but it is even more important
elsewhere. There are 263 million | 3:15:15 | 3:15:21 | |
girls and boys around the world not
in school. Two thirds of them live | 3:15:21 | 3:15:27 | |
in fragile and conflict affected
states. And yet we know, we have too | 3:15:27 | 3:15:35 | |
no, we have to understand that
education matters more in these | 3:15:35 | 3:15:38 | |
places than in any other
intervention can possibly matter. | 3:15:38 | 3:15:44 | |
Education transforms lives, it
provides the opportunity, the | 3:15:44 | 3:15:48 | |
confidence, the skills to start
work, start businesses, it improves | 3:15:48 | 3:15:53 | |
agricultural outputs, improves the
health outcomes of individuals and | 3:15:53 | 3:16:00 | |
of nations. For girls, it helps them
avoid child marriage and all sorts | 3:16:00 | 3:16:04 | |
of other abuses and it develops
responsible citizens who can hold | 3:16:04 | 3:16:09 | |
corrupt governments to account and
developed democracies and governance | 3:16:09 | 3:16:13 | |
in the capacity of public
institutions. Yet in this country, | 3:16:13 | 3:16:15 | |
the only allocate 7.17% of our
overseas development assistance to | 3:16:15 | 3:16:23 | |
education. I think that figure
should be much, much higher and I | 3:16:23 | 3:16:27 | |
hope that the governments in its
ongoing customer reviews of how best | 3:16:27 | 3:16:31 | |
to spend its ODA will look again at
the level it is currently spending | 3:16:31 | 3:16:38 | |
on education. In particular, there
is a decision due in January for UK | 3:16:38 | 3:16:43 | |
contribution to the global
partnership on education, Maya is | 3:16:43 | 3:16:46 | |
spent in fragile conflict affected
and very underdeveloped states where | 3:16:46 | 3:16:52 | |
the UK's contribution was previously
the other million pounds and that is | 3:16:52 | 3:16:55 | |
to review. Bat up for review. I hope
we will not only sustain that | 3:16:55 | 3:17:01 | |
contribution but hopefully increase
it. I met a young girl, I'm just | 3:17:01 | 3:17:04 | |
finishing this point as I'm
conscious of my time, in a refugee | 3:17:04 | 3:17:07 | |
camp in Iraq 18 months ago who had
enjoyed all kinds of horrors for | 3:17:07 | 3:17:14 | |
three years. -- endured all kinds of
horrors for three years in a refugee | 3:17:14 | 3:17:21 | |
camp and she spoke to me about that
experience. The only time she cried | 3:17:21 | 3:17:24 | |
was running at how her exam results
were at school. -- when I asked her. | 3:17:24 | 3:17:32 | |
Her to the future was that her
school performance has been affected | 3:17:32 | 3:17:36 | |
by living in the camp, an indication
of just how much education matters | 3:17:36 | 3:17:40 | |
for those who need it most and I
hope that in summation, about the | 3:17:40 | 3:17:45 | |
noble lord, the Minister, and other
people will be able to reflect on | 3:17:45 | 3:17:49 | |
the global as well as the national
situation. It is a privilege to | 3:17:49 | 3:17:54 | |
offer a view brief comments from the
perspective of an academic | 3:17:54 | 3:17:57 | |
scientists. Today's young people
will live in a world ever more | 3:17:57 | 3:18:04 | |
dependent on technology, ever more
vulnerable to its failures and | 3:18:04 | 3:18:07 | |
misdirection. Choices on how science
is applied and not just for | 3:18:07 | 3:18:14 | |
scientists to make but for wider
democratic debate to rise above | 3:18:14 | 3:18:19 | |
sloganising, all citizens need
enough feel for science and maths, | 3:18:19 | 3:18:23 | |
to prevent them being bamboozled by
propaganda or over deferential to | 3:18:23 | 3:18:26 | |
experts. It is sad that so many
don't. Particularly regrettable that | 3:18:26 | 3:18:32 | |
many people don't know the nation's
history, can't speak a second | 3:18:32 | 3:18:37 | |
language, can't find North Korea or
Syria on a map of course. Like | 3:18:37 | 3:18:43 | |
history and literature, science is
part of human culture. More than | 3:18:43 | 3:18:48 | |
that, if the one culture that is
truly global, protons, proteins and | 3:18:48 | 3:18:53 | |
Pythagoras are the same from China
to prove and shall transcend all | 3:18:53 | 3:19:00 | |
boundaries of nationality and faith.
-- from China to Peru. But things | 3:19:00 | 3:19:07 | |
are changing. IT and the web offers
huge benefits but I think earlier | 3:19:07 | 3:19:10 | |
generations had one advantage. When
they were young, we could take apart | 3:19:10 | 3:19:17 | |
a clock, a radio set or a motorbike,
figure out how it worked and | 3:19:17 | 3:19:23 | |
reassemble it. That is how many of
us got pooped on science. In | 3:19:23 | 3:19:28 | |
contrast, the gadgets that now
pervade our lives, smartphones and | 3:19:28 | 3:19:34 | |
suchlike are battling black boxes.
Even if you take apart, you will | 3:19:34 | 3:19:37 | |
find few clues to their mechanisms.
The extremes of this nation of | 3:19:37 | 3:19:44 | |
modern technology is ironically an
impediment to engaging young people | 3:19:44 | 3:19:49 | |
with real reality. With learning how
things work. Likewise, town dwellers | 3:19:49 | 3:19:56 | |
are increasingly distanced from the
natural world. Many urban children | 3:19:56 | 3:20:01 | |
never see a dark sky or a bird's
nest. The UK is a laggard in | 3:20:01 | 3:20:08 | |
educational attainment is at the
secondary school age as many | 3:20:08 | 3:20:14 | |
speakers have emphasised and as
special urgency to enhance provision | 3:20:14 | 3:20:17 | |
for the disadvantaged majority. But
in higher education, too, we need to | 3:20:17 | 3:20:24 | |
have a more diverse the quality than
universities. As a university | 3:20:24 | 3:20:32 | |
teacher, I'm aware that our
traditional honours degree is too | 3:20:32 | 3:20:36 | |
specialised for almost all students.
Even worse, so is the school | 3:20:36 | 3:20:39 | |
curriculum. The campaign for 16-18
-year-old has been impeded by | 3:20:39 | 3:20:48 | |
universities. The entrance
requirements over the disfavour | 3:20:48 | 3:20:56 | |
applicants who straddle sign
sexualities. Incidentally, as a | 3:20:56 | 3:21:01 | |
digression, I would like to order a
prominent -- science and | 3:21:01 | 3:21:06 | |
technologies. Lord Habgood, former
Bishop of York. Physiologist by | 3:21:06 | 3:21:12 | |
education. He spoke at a British
science Association meeting, under | 3:21:12 | 3:21:21 | |
the heading monkeys may have souls,
says Primate. We fetishise the | 3:21:21 | 3:21:31 | |
special value of three years
full-time study. An American will | 3:21:31 | 3:21:36 | |
say I had two years of college as a
positive experience. Regarding the | 3:21:36 | 3:21:42 | |
college credits, even if they are
not sufficient for graduation, as a | 3:21:42 | 3:21:48 | |
good qualification. It is surely
better for colleges to take risks on | 3:21:48 | 3:21:55 | |
admission, give students a chance
and then let some leave after two | 3:21:55 | 3:21:58 | |
years with a credit, without
necessarily being typecast as | 3:21:58 | 3:22:02 | |
failures or wastage. Some would
return later, continue part-time, | 3:22:02 | 3:22:08 | |
others may pursue distance learning.
I hope the Minister will offer some | 3:22:08 | 3:22:14 | |
comments on how to encourage
transferable credits. As Lord Givens | 3:22:14 | 3:22:21 | |
told ours, distance learning may be
placed the sort of university but it | 3:22:21 | 3:22:27 | |
will never replicate the experience
of attending a collegiate type | 3:22:27 | 3:22:31 | |
university. So I think there will be
a deepening by between one hand | 3:22:31 | 3:22:40 | |
universities and institutions that
offer expert tuition with analogues | 3:22:40 | 3:22:48 | |
of other colleges on the one hand,
and on the other, the open | 3:22:48 | 3:22:53 | |
University model. However, those who
aspire to a selective residential | 3:22:53 | 3:23:04 | |
university are disadvantaged in the
schooling. They won't get over the | 3:23:04 | 3:23:09 | |
bar at 18 and they now have no
second chance. That is why I think | 3:23:09 | 3:23:13 | |
it would send an encouraging signal
if Oxbridge in particular to | 3:23:13 | 3:23:18 | |
preserve a fraction of its places
for students who don't come straight | 3:23:18 | 3:23:22 | |
from school but have earned credits
online or via the open University. | 3:23:22 | 3:23:31 | |
Finally, a word about another
damaging preconception which has the | 3:23:31 | 3:23:37 | |
Devil British education and policy
for decades. A snobbish | 3:23:37 | 3:23:45 | |
disparagement of technology. My
engineering friends like an old | 3:23:45 | 3:23:51 | |
cartoon, this cartoon shows to
Beavers looking up at a | 3:23:51 | 3:23:57 | |
hydroelectric dam, one says to the
other, I did not actually built it | 3:23:57 | 3:24:01 | |
but it's based on my idea. And that
is honestly in contrast to the | 3:24:01 | 3:24:09 | |
difference between the real and the
perceived balance between science | 3:24:09 | 3:24:15 | |
and technology. | 3:24:15 | 3:24:19 | |
But we all need to be guided by
values that a good school can | 3:24:19 | 3:24:29 | |
instill. So we should welcome the
leadership of the prelate in | 3:24:29 | 3:24:34 | |
introducing this debate. My lords, I
thank the most Reverend primate for | 3:24:34 | 3:24:43 | |
calling this debate. I was struck by
one word in the debate title - | 3:24:43 | 3:24:49 | |
flourishing. This is about more than
acquiring a skill set or gaining | 3:24:49 | 3:24:54 | |
knowledge of the world. It is about
unlocking human potential. This is | 3:24:54 | 3:24:59 | |
the bench mark we must set
ourselves, rooting in the capability | 3:24:59 | 3:25:04 | |
of the individual. ForAristotle, it
is the key to happiness. If your | 3:25:04 | 3:25:16 | |
education system does not allow
individuals to flourish, then it is | 3:25:16 | 3:25:19 | |
failing and over the years it has
fallen short. Let us take a moment | 3:25:19 | 3:25:30 | |
to process what this means. It means
money and wealth were contributors | 3:25:30 | 3:25:37 | |
to helping students flourish. Those
without would not reach their | 3:25:37 | 3:25:42 | |
potential. Not only it is entrench
inequality, it meant as a country we | 3:25:42 | 3:25:48 | |
could not reach our potential. I was
one of lucky ones. At a time when | 3:25:48 | 3:25:53 | |
too few Welsh students applied to
top universities, my comprehensive | 3:25:53 | 3:25:59 | |
was an outlying, getting regularly
10 to 15 pupils a year into | 3:25:59 | 3:26:04 | |
Oxbridge. This was down to
outstanding teachers who believed | 3:26:04 | 3:26:09 | |
their pupils were as good as anyone
else. They did raise our level of | 3:26:09 | 3:26:18 | |
aspiration. I was lucky. But we must
look beyond a few great teachers at | 3:26:18 | 3:26:25 | |
one school and work how to
institutionalise this philosophy. | 3:26:25 | 3:26:29 | |
One advantage we have is the access
to data and technology. This access | 3:26:29 | 3:26:36 | |
means we can assess teaching
approaches and educational | 3:26:36 | 3:26:41 | |
technology rigorously and on a
global scale. We do not have to | 3:26:41 | 3:26:45 | |
compare teaching ideologies and
philosophies and pick one by setting | 3:26:45 | 3:26:50 | |
them against our political creed. We
can look at what works. Take phonics | 3:26:50 | 3:26:56 | |
as an example of following the
evidence. Michael Gove mandated its | 3:26:56 | 3:27:04 | |
use in the teaching of reading to
combat the gap between the highest | 3:27:04 | 3:27:10 | |
and lowest achievers. He had to
fight off opposition from professors | 3:27:10 | 3:27:18 | |
and unions, but pressed on,
encouraged by the thousands of | 3:27:18 | 3:27:22 | |
teachers who had supported this
method of teaching children to read. | 3:27:22 | 3:27:27 | |
The emerging evidence is that
phonics is particularly effective at | 3:27:27 | 3:27:32 | |
helping the least able and we should
thank the teachers who have embraced | 3:27:32 | 3:27:36 | |
this. What better example of catch
helping not just the wealthy to | 3:27:36 | 3:27:48 | |
reach their potential. We need to be
clear that this is not about | 3:27:48 | 3:27:53 | |
equality for quality's sake. My
teachers in Swansea did not enable | 3:27:53 | 3:27:56 | |
me and my colleague to get into
Oxbridge by persuading colleges to | 3:27:56 | 3:28:02 | |
lower their standard, but rather for
us to raise our. It is the role of | 3:28:02 | 3:28:08 | |
education to allow us to flourish to
our potential. My family history | 3:28:08 | 3:28:17 | |
reinforces this. My father's family
left communist Czechoslovakia. Later | 3:28:17 | 3:28:26 | |
he came a professor at the
international Swiss business school. | 3:28:26 | 3:28:30 | |
He was a beneficiary of education's
role in helping us to flourish. But | 3:28:30 | 3:28:35 | |
we should reflect on the world he
escaped. Communism doesn't recognise | 3:28:35 | 3:28:44 | |
individuals, it is subsumed into the
state and individual freedom is | 3:28:44 | 3:28:50 | |
extinguished with brutal
consequences. We should use the | 3:28:50 | 3:28:54 | |
passing of the anniversary of
Russian revolution, not to | 3:28:54 | 3:29:00 | |
romanticise, but to remind ourselves
of the importance of liberty and | 3:29:00 | 3:29:05 | |
returning to the topic of today, the
role our education system can play | 3:29:05 | 3:29:09 | |
in bring it about. It is always a
pleasure to follow Baroness Finn and | 3:29:09 | 3:29:20 | |
to hear her story. It is always a
pleasure to be at a debate that was | 3:29:20 | 3:29:25 | |
initiated by the most reverent
primate and his speech was very | 3:29:25 | 3:29:30 | |
fine. I think that the debate that's
followed has been an excellent one | 3:29:30 | 3:29:34 | |
in every respect. I did look up in
the library briefing the definition | 3:29:34 | 3:29:42 | |
of character and I fear that I
thought initially that the character | 3:29:42 | 3:29:47 | |
definition was relating to the
headmaster of the minister's school | 3:29:47 | 3:29:52 | |
many years ago, Dr Arnold of rugby.
When I heard Lord Griffiths | 3:29:52 | 3:30:01 | |
explaining in much more detail what
character meant that I agreed with | 3:30:01 | 3:30:06 | |
him and what underpinned this
debate. It is about education for | 3:30:06 | 3:30:10 | |
the fullness of life. It is of
course about education for civic | 3:30:10 | 3:30:16 | |
responsibilities, as my noble friend
referred to. Teaching about | 3:30:16 | 3:30:19 | |
democracy. And I spend 17 years
teaching myself, politics and | 3:30:19 | 3:30:25 | |
government and issues like that. But
it is also about educating for | 3:30:25 | 3:30:30 | |
happiness and it seeps to me that is
-- seems to me that done | 3:30:30 | 3:30:36 | |
particularly well by church schools.
To which I refer to the schools that | 3:30:36 | 3:30:41 | |
my noble friend and I went to
Catholic primary schools in a small | 3:30:41 | 3:30:47 | |
Welsh mining village and to Anglican
schools in Wales and in England too. | 3:30:47 | 3:30:52 | |
And when you look at the figures,
that one third I think it is of all | 3:30:52 | 3:31:03 | |
pupils go to church schools and 98%
of those schools are Church of | 3:31:03 | 3:31:11 | |
England or Anglican or Catholic. The
church I'm glad to say work well | 3:31:11 | 3:31:21 | |
together in putting a case to the
Government. Particularly to the | 3:31:21 | 3:31:24 | |
minister who is the faith schools
minister, as part of education team. | 3:31:24 | 3:31:31 | |
Catholic schools for example, as do
Anglican schools, provide education | 3:31:31 | 3:31:36 | |
for deprived areas. If your
Lordships do as I occasionally done | 3:31:36 | 3:31:42 | |
catch the 185 bus from Victoria, you
pass through very deprived areas of | 3:31:42 | 3:31:48 | |
South London. And as that bus goes
through, there are three schools | 3:31:48 | 3:31:53 | |
serving that community. Two of them
are Church of England schools and | 3:31:53 | 3:31:56 | |
the other one is a Catholic school.
And it does prove the point that the | 3:31:56 | 3:32:03 | |
churches put a huge amount of
importance on the need to ensure | 3:32:03 | 3:32:08 | |
that they do reach out into our
inner cities and to our deprived | 3:32:08 | 3:32:12 | |
areas. For example as for as
Catholic schools, 18% of pupils come | 3:32:12 | 3:32:18 | |
from the poorest background. That is
compared to 6% more than in the | 3:32:18 | 3:32:23 | |
national average. 35% from ethnic
minority backgrounds. The other | 3:32:23 | 3:32:28 | |
issue which the most reverent
primate and other speakers have | 3:32:28 | 3:32:33 | |
emphasised is the importance of
church schools having people who do | 3:32:33 | 3:32:40 | |
not necessarily believe necessarily
in that denom nation to attend them. | 3:32:40 | 3:32:46 | |
Many people want their children go
to church schools because of the | 3:32:46 | 3:32:52 | |
ethos of the school and one in three
of all pupils in Catholic schools | 3:32:52 | 3:32:57 | |
are not Catholics. That is a good
thing. The school to which I | 3:32:57 | 3:33:03 | |
referred to in Wales, my
grandparents on my mother's | 3:33:03 | 3:33:11 | |
Protestant side and father's
Catholic side went to that school, | 3:33:11 | 3:33:14 | |
because it was the only school in
the village at the time. So it is | 3:33:14 | 3:33:21 | |
not new. I want to finish on another
issue. The Catholic church has | 3:33:21 | 3:33:39 | |
declined to build any new free or
Academy schools as long as the cap | 3:33:39 | 3:33:43 | |
is there. Partly because in areas of
large Catholic populations, | 3:33:43 | 3:33:50 | |
Catholics could be denied entry to
the school, because they have failed | 3:33:50 | 3:33:54 | |
the 50%. I understand that the
minister's boss, the Prime Minister, | 3:33:54 | 3:33:59 | |
back in September 2016 said this,
the rule is failing in its objective | 3:33:59 | 3:34:04 | |
to promote integration and we will
remove it. And then his Conservative | 3:34:04 | 3:34:11 | |
manifesto called the rule unfair and
ineffective and should be removed. | 3:34:11 | 3:34:16 | |
Now, I hope that the minister in
reply will be able to tell us that | 3:34:16 | 3:34:20 | |
there is some movement in this and
after months of consultation | 3:34:20 | 3:34:26 | |
churches can decide for themselves
what they do, bearing in mind they | 3:34:26 | 3:34:34 | |
are opening to having people coming
from other faiths or none. But that | 3:34:34 | 3:34:38 | |
is a matter for the churches rather
than for imposition. So I would be | 3:34:38 | 3:34:44 | |
pleased to hear what the reason for
the delay is. I finish on the note | 3:34:44 | 3:34:48 | |
that I think our society is
enriched, our people are well | 3:34:48 | 3:34:54 | |
educated, because of the existence
of our church schools. And long | 3:34:54 | 3:34:59 | |
indeed may they flourish. I echo the
words of other noble Lords in | 3:34:59 | 3:35:08 | |
thanking the Archbishop of
Canterbury for bringing us together | 3:35:08 | 3:35:11 | |
to reflect on such important matters
to our nation and to learn from one | 3:35:11 | 3:35:16 | |
another for education is certainly
not just for the young. My Lords we | 3:35:16 | 3:35:21 | |
ask a lot of our children and pin
great hopes on them. They are our | 3:35:21 | 3:35:25 | |
future after all. We ask them to
navigate a complex world which | 3:35:25 | 3:35:36 | |
operates 24/7, which blurs the line
between private and public. Our | 3:35:36 | 3:35:39 | |
children never get a day off. And
some never get a night off either. | 3:35:39 | 3:35:43 | |
And what is our legacy to them? An
inheritance of debt a dream of | 3:35:43 | 3:35:49 | |
owning their own home that is dimmer
than ours and a mistrust of politics | 3:35:49 | 3:35:54 | |
and a decline of productivity, a
climate of storms real and political | 3:35:54 | 3:35:59 | |
to navigate. In a world where truth
is hard to get a handle on and in | 3:35:59 | 3:36:04 | |
some quarters has been declared out
of vogue. Our debate today throws | 3:36:04 | 3:36:09 | |
the net wide and I would like to
touch on two issues. Both of which I | 3:36:09 | 3:36:15 | |
believe are vital in building not
only a flourishing society but a | 3:36:15 | 3:36:22 | |
flour iring democratic and liberal
one. I speak my lords of mental | 3:36:22 | 3:36:27 | |
health issue and of social media.
First mental health. My mords we are | 3:36:27 | 3:36:32 | |
allowing a generation of children to
reach adulthood without the support | 3:36:32 | 3:36:36 | |
they need to be rounded, stable
independent people that they can and | 3:36:36 | 3:36:42 | |
should be. They are future citizens.
The figure are sobering. Last year | 3:36:42 | 3:36:49 | |
as many as one in 250 children were
referred to what is known as Tams by | 3:36:49 | 3:36:57 | |
professionals. Nearly a third were
turned away and 60% were left on | 3:36:57 | 3:37:02 | |
waiting lists. This means a lot of
disappointed children and families | 3:37:02 | 3:37:11 | |
under enormous strain. A recent
report noted 50% of mental illness | 3:37:11 | 3:37:19 | |
in adult life starts before the age
of 15. So the troubles of today's | 3:37:19 | 3:37:24 | |
children will soon be the trouble of
tomorrow's adults. We have been slow | 3:37:24 | 3:37:29 | |
to act. A growing cry for help and
not enough help at hand. I do | 3:37:29 | 3:37:35 | |
welcome signs that people are
beginning to listen, but let us hope | 3:37:35 | 3:37:39 | |
this listening translates into real
solutions and I welcome the | 3:37:39 | 3:37:44 | |
Secretary of State's mental health
initiative. Certainly some of the | 3:37:44 | 3:37:48 | |
answer must lie in the scho
community and I speak of primary and | 3:37:48 | 3:37:59 | |
Secretary schools. Teachers are
often the best people to spot | 3:37:59 | 3:38:05 | |
problems. But let us be clear for
others they will need a programme of | 3:38:05 | 3:38:10 | |
treatment in the NHS and we will
never solve the problem with a lack | 3:38:10 | 3:38:18 | |
of trained counsellors and
unaccepted waiting times. | 3:38:18 | 3:38:28 | |
We were lodged by a wave from the
problem of why the cries for help | 3:38:28 | 3:38:31 | |
are there any first place and some
of that comes down to education and | 3:38:31 | 3:38:35 | |
how we teach our children which is
way beyond the three Rs. A sense of | 3:38:35 | 3:38:42 | |
well-being, respect and kindness and
consideration to others. A sense of | 3:38:42 | 3:38:48 | |
communication and nationhood. For us
to win the global race, we must | 3:38:48 | 3:38:51 | |
remember who are trying to win it
for. We have much to do if going to | 3:38:51 | 3:38:58 | |
create every child growing up to be
the Independent, punchy adult they | 3:38:58 | 3:39:03 | |
can be and when they reach
adulthood, we ask them to do | 3:39:03 | 3:39:10 | |
something very important, but it
paid for the first time in our | 3:39:10 | 3:39:12 | |
democracy and exercise that. There
is much more true democracy than the | 3:39:12 | 3:39:18 | |
casting of a vote. Our traditions
are underpinned by the rule of law | 3:39:18 | 3:39:23 | |
in bedded in society, one which
prevents freedom of expression and | 3:39:23 | 3:39:30 | |
-- supports freedom of expression
and encourages debate. Our citizens | 3:39:30 | 3:39:34 | |
are asked to assess the Government
every four years and whether they | 3:39:34 | 3:39:37 | |
want more or less of them at the
ballot box. At the heart of a lovely | 3:39:37 | 3:39:41 | |
democracy alive the integrity of the
poll and today we cannot escape the | 3:39:41 | 3:39:47 | |
uncomfortable and growing
realisation that one of the key | 3:39:47 | 3:39:49 | |
sources which we take article views
may be open to manipulation. I | 3:39:49 | 3:39:54 | |
taught a course a social media. Once
they might have watched the evening | 3:39:54 | 3:40:00 | |
news and read a trusty newspaper, we
now have an infinite number of news | 3:40:00 | 3:40:06 | |
sources at our fingertips which
navigate at high speed all day often | 3:40:06 | 3:40:09 | |
from unknown origins. The scour the
Internet, we are less certain what | 3:40:09 | 3:40:14 | |
is information and what is
misinformation, who contrast, what | 3:40:14 | 3:40:18 | |
is real, what is not, Bishop or
Russian bought. Our content of what | 3:40:18 | 3:40:25 | |
we read can be clouded by lack of
context. It is so powerful that is | 3:40:25 | 3:40:32 | |
sometimes a force for good in
necessary change and sometimes not. | 3:40:32 | 3:40:37 | |
When the truth emerges, if it does,
it is often too late to defuse the | 3:40:37 | 3:40:42 | |
tension it has bird. The reality
lost in the midst of anger. So the | 3:40:42 | 3:40:47 | |
storm rages about how our democracy
is under threat from social media | 3:40:47 | 3:40:52 | |
with far fewer ideas of how to
address it and while I have no doubt | 3:40:52 | 3:40:58 | |
that regulation will come, I'm less
certain that we can counter it to | 3:40:58 | 3:41:02 | |
protect the integrity of our
democracy so that leads us back to | 3:41:02 | 3:41:05 | |
the individuals who use it in the
first place and to their judgment | 3:41:05 | 3:41:09 | |
which brings us back to education,
my Lords. I believe it is vital to | 3:41:09 | 3:41:14 | |
teach children from a young age to
navigate the web, help them assess | 3:41:14 | 3:41:18 | |
the validity of what they read, to
explain why they should care in the | 3:41:18 | 3:41:23 | |
first place. I believe we must
encourage debate in our country and | 3:41:23 | 3:41:29 | |
on campuses of a university, not
wrap children in cotton wool | 3:41:29 | 3:41:33 | |
surrounded by safe places so that
our children have the confidence to | 3:41:33 | 3:41:38 | |
form a view and then weigh it up
against the argument of another, to | 3:41:38 | 3:41:44 | |
challenge and sometimes to change.
As Aristotle said, it is the mark of | 3:41:44 | 3:41:47 | |
an educated mind to be able to
entertain people without accepting | 3:41:47 | 3:41:52 | |
it. My Lords, I speak to Dave argues
you to bring up a generation of | 3:41:52 | 3:41:58 | |
young, to be confident, stable
adults, citizens of the future and | 3:41:58 | 3:42:03 | |
be able to navigate the hashtags
world which is theirs to inherit. I | 3:42:03 | 3:42:13 | |
am grateful to the Archbishop of
Canterbury for his leadership in | 3:42:13 | 3:42:15 | |
this debate and in everything else.
I speak this afternoon from three | 3:42:15 | 3:42:22 | |
perspectives, as the Bishop of a
diocese with over 280 church | 3:42:22 | 3:42:27 | |
schools, primary, secondary and
driving. As a member of the select | 3:42:27 | 3:42:33 | |
committee on artificial intelligence
which has been a fascinating | 3:42:33 | 3:42:36 | |
enterprise and also as a grandfather
with three as yet unsuspecting young | 3:42:36 | 3:42:42 | |
grandsons who will enter the
education system in the next year or | 3:42:42 | 3:42:45 | |
so, the eldest at two and a half,
the youngest in just three months. | 3:42:45 | 3:42:50 | |
Those grandsons will grow up in a
different world. They will probably | 3:42:50 | 3:42:56 | |
never drive or own cars. They will
interact with screens and machines | 3:42:56 | 3:43:02 | |
from an early age. They will need to
learn how to set boundaries around | 3:43:02 | 3:43:09 | |
their online lives. Their working
lives will be more different from my | 3:43:09 | 3:43:17 | |
own than mine is from my
grandfather's. As Lord Baker and | 3:43:17 | 3:43:22 | |
Lord Puttnam and indicated, the most
reliable aspens indicated that | 3:43:22 | 3:43:29 | |
between 20% and 40% of current jobs
will simply no longer exist. When | 3:43:29 | 3:43:33 | |
they leave school. Affecting
disproportionately current areas of | 3:43:33 | 3:43:43 | |
deprivation. The life script of
education followed by work, followed | 3:43:43 | 3:43:47 | |
by retirement which has applied
since Victorian times simply will | 3:43:47 | 3:43:53 | |
not apply any longer. Their school
years old therefore essential, | 3:43:53 | 3:44:00 | |
beginning next year. In helping them
prepared to live purposeful and | 3:44:00 | 3:44:06 | |
productive lives, not confined to
paid appointment in the formation of | 3:44:06 | 3:44:11 | |
their character and of values in a
digital world. As well as laying the | 3:44:11 | 3:44:17 | |
groundwork for lifelong education
and learning. As the Archbishop and | 3:44:17 | 3:44:22 | |
others have said, we are living
through an unprecedented digital | 3:44:22 | 3:44:28 | |
revolution which will impact
everyone. It will have extraordinary | 3:44:28 | 3:44:32 | |
implications on the range of skills
that today's children and young | 3:44:32 | 3:44:36 | |
people will require in every aspect
of their lives. And it is essential | 3:44:36 | 3:44:43 | |
to set an ethical digital education,
and ethical digital education at the | 3:44:43 | 3:44:50 | |
very heart of the curriculum for the
future. Knowledge and skills will | 3:44:50 | 3:44:54 | |
not be enough. We are only beginning
to glimpse the shifts required. | 3:44:54 | 3:45:00 | |
There has been a major reboot in the
teaching of computer sciences and | 3:45:00 | 3:45:06 | |
schools, just the last three years,
which is wholly well, but clearly | 3:45:06 | 3:45:12 | |
just the beginning. I have spoken
with secondary schoolteachers and a | 3:45:12 | 3:45:17 | |
university head of Department only
yesterday. They believe this a real | 3:45:17 | 3:45:20 | |
success story. The curriculum is
more engaging and problem centred. | 3:45:20 | 3:45:27 | |
The aspirations are higher. There
are many pockets of excellence, | 3:45:27 | 3:45:32 | |
including, I'm glad to say, in my
own dialysis. The recent Royal | 3:45:32 | 3:45:40 | |
Society on competing education in
schools published just a few weeks | 3:45:40 | 3:45:43 | |
ago revealed that we have only just
begun to set things right. | 3:45:43 | 3:45:47 | |
Computing, education, we read is
patchy and fragile. Its future | 3:45:47 | 3:45:53 | |
development and sustainability
depend on swift and coordinated | 3:45:53 | 3:45:57 | |
action by governments, industry and
nonprofit organisations. The Royal | 3:45:57 | 3:46:03 | |
Society report that a number of
teachers are teaching an unfamiliar | 3:46:03 | 3:46:08 | |
subject without adequate support and
upscaling. Teacher training and | 3:46:08 | 3:46:12 | |
recruitment are an even hand behind
the times. I agree with Ward Baker | 3:46:12 | 3:46:20 | |
on extending ethical computer and
digital education to 16 athlete and | 3:46:20 | 3:46:26 | |
with Lord Rees on the need to retain
breath all the way through our | 3:46:26 | 3:46:30 | |
school and university system. I can
still remember having to choose 816 | 3:46:30 | 3:46:35 | |
between mathematics and Greek for an
A-level subject. In the recent | 3:46:35 | 3:46:43 | |
budget, the Government indicated
that major investment in the | 3:46:43 | 3:46:47 | |
teaching of digital skills and
computer science will be | 3:46:47 | 3:46:51 | |
forthcoming. It is very
considerable. £469 from Matt and | 3:46:51 | 3:46:57 | |
technical education, £84 million to
train 8000 computer science | 3:46:57 | 3:47:03 | |
teachers, dropping the number by the
end of this Parliament, a new centre | 3:47:03 | 3:47:08 | |
for competing education. --
travelling that number. There are | 3:47:08 | 3:47:13 | |
four challengers, of which he first
is to put the UK at the forefront of | 3:47:13 | 3:47:20 | |
artificial intelligence and the data
revolution. Education and skills are | 3:47:20 | 3:47:22 | |
vital in meeting this but this
digital education must be set | 3:47:22 | 3:47:28 | |
clearly any context of ethics and
values, and ethics and values | 3:47:28 | 3:47:33 | |
recommended to day must be at the
heart of our digital education. The | 3:47:33 | 3:47:40 | |
scope of PHSE must include the
skills and challenges young people | 3:47:40 | 3:47:43 | |
are facing, boundaries to get
identity, recognise signs of | 3:47:43 | 3:47:50 | |
addiction and behaviour in a digital
world, to build human relationships | 3:47:50 | 3:47:53 | |
alongside followers, to develop the
inner force to counter as Lord | 3:47:53 | 3:48:00 | |
Giddings has said, the very dark
side of the digital world. May I ask | 3:48:00 | 3:48:06 | |
the Minister to comment, please, as
part of his summing up the debate on | 3:48:06 | 3:48:09 | |
the following three questions. What
is planned by the governments have | 3:48:09 | 3:48:13 | |
for the teaching of ethics as part
of the computer science curriculum | 3:48:13 | 3:48:18 | |
in an integrated way? What plans
does the Government have for the | 3:48:18 | 3:48:24 | |
integration of digital questions
into the broader character and | 3:48:24 | 3:48:28 | |
values education offered in our
schools. Finally, the Government | 3:48:28 | 3:48:31 | |
giving consideration to a Cabinet
level post of the Minister for | 3:48:31 | 3:48:36 | |
digital development that offer
leadership across the Government in | 3:48:36 | 3:48:40 | |
such a crystal sector such as the
scale of the change required. It is | 3:48:40 | 3:48:49 | |
a great privilege to speak in
two-day's debate. We are fortunate | 3:48:49 | 3:48:52 | |
that the most reverent uses his
unique position in this house to | 3:48:52 | 3:49:00 | |
broaden our horizons from time to
time, speaking on topics that have | 3:49:00 | 3:49:04 | |
grand significance for the future
society. In doing so coming he | 3:49:04 | 3:49:07 | |
raises the overall tone of discourse
in this chamber which we have seen | 3:49:07 | 3:49:10 | |
in abundance during the contribution
so far, including his own | 3:49:10 | 3:49:14 | |
outstanding contribution. And
introduction. You highlight the | 3:49:14 | 3:49:20 | |
importance of character and -based
education where the church of | 3:49:20 | 3:49:25 | |
England has been a pioneering
leadership. This approach contains | 3:49:25 | 3:49:29 | |
many of the ingredients to unite
diverse communities in Britain and | 3:49:29 | 3:49:33 | |
the essential to provide much needed
boost for social cohesion. In the | 3:49:33 | 3:49:37 | |
group unavailable, and wanted to
approach today's subject of a | 3:49:37 | 3:49:41 | |
slightly different angle to other
members of your lodge a's house by | 3:49:41 | 3:49:44 | |
speaking specifically about the
Indian perspectives on education, | 3:49:44 | 3:49:50 | |
encompassing the Hindu, C and a
Buddhist traditions which share a | 3:49:50 | 3:49:56 | |
common heritage and also the
important role and stages according | 3:49:56 | 3:50:00 | |
to teachers in that culture. Bat
Sikh. -- according to the -- | 3:50:00 | 3:50:08 | |
afforded to teachers in that
culture. The briefing papers for | 3:50:08 | 3:50:14 | |
today's debate rightly identified
Aristotle as an inspiration for the | 3:50:14 | 3:50:21 | |
philosophy of human flourishing.
Connecting the pieces of happiness | 3:50:21 | 3:50:24 | |
to the cultivation of virtue. In the
civilisation of India which predates | 3:50:24 | 3:50:32 | |
Aristotle by more than 1000 years,
the similar knowledge system | 3:50:32 | 3:50:35 | |
provided the very organisational
basis for society. Importantly, that | 3:50:35 | 3:50:40 | |
system was holistic and design.
Emphasising abridgement of the mind, | 3:50:40 | 3:50:45 | |
body and spirit. That is worth yoga
and meditation originate and I shall | 3:50:45 | 3:50:52 | |
return to these again in my remarks.
This understanding of history | 3:50:52 | 3:50:57 | |
hopefully explains why Indians
positively embrace the quest for | 3:50:57 | 3:51:01 | |
learning education. This is not just
missed Ballinger, this is home to | 3:51:01 | 3:51:09 | |
people of Indian origin. The data
recently compiled by the Cabinet | 3:51:09 | 3:51:12 | |
Office is part of the Government's
great disparity shows that far from | 3:51:12 | 3:51:19 | |
being a disadvantage minority,
British Indians ranked top in the | 3:51:19 | 3:51:21 | |
number of economic and social
metrics. Specifically, the | 3:51:21 | 3:51:24 | |
Department for Education ranking
shows that Indian pupils alongside | 3:51:24 | 3:51:27 | |
Chinese have the highest attainment
throughout school, make the most | 3:51:27 | 3:51:32 | |
progress and are most likely to stay
in education and going to | 3:51:32 | 3:51:35 | |
university. What can we learn from
this cultural anthropology? I like | 3:51:35 | 3:51:40 | |
to highlight the specific points of
practical relevance to dive. The | 3:51:40 | 3:51:44 | |
very first is openness to new ideas
which is almost a prerequisite for | 3:51:44 | 3:51:49 | |
any form of education and
self-discovery. One of the oldest | 3:51:49 | 3:51:53 | |
living Scriptures found anywhere
which I used to take my openness | 3:51:53 | 3:51:58 | |
house says in the ancient language
Sanskrit... Translated to let Noble | 3:51:58 | 3:52:08 | |
thoughts come to me from all
directions. That phrase feels | 3:52:08 | 3:52:11 | |
particularly suited to this house
and today's debate. It is also | 3:52:11 | 3:52:17 | |
crucial for a world that has become
increasingly inward and intolerance. | 3:52:17 | 3:52:21 | |
Actors therefore vital that rather
than close of young minds, the open | 3:52:21 | 3:52:26 | |
them. The second is a special stages
referred to as gurus in the | 3:52:26 | 3:52:34 | |
traditions and to really
relationship with students. A Guru | 3:52:34 | 3:52:40 | |
is revered and held in high esteem
and not only for who they are and | 3:52:40 | 3:52:43 | |
what they know but also for their
role as a custodian of fundamental | 3:52:43 | 3:52:50 | |
values that have passed from one
generation to the next there was an | 3:52:50 | 3:52:54 | |
important distinction here, the job
of a teacher today is becoming a | 3:52:54 | 3:53:00 | |
transactional relationship, and
experts who know something which a | 3:53:00 | 3:53:02 | |
pupil seeks to acquire. In contrast
a Guru is someone much more about | 3:53:02 | 3:53:11 | |
wisdom and guidance, a mental who
leads by example, concerned with the | 3:53:11 | 3:53:14 | |
overall well-being and looking
forward to a time when their own | 3:53:14 | 3:53:19 | |
disciples stepped into their shoes a
cycle of life turns once more. | 3:53:19 | 3:53:26 | |
Elevating the status of teachers
throughout the world has recently | 3:53:26 | 3:53:28 | |
been taken up perhaps appropriately
by an Indian origin entrepreneur | 3:53:28 | 3:53:33 | |
whose parents were teachers. He felt
that the diminishing respect we have | 3:53:33 | 3:53:38 | |
for educators is one of the reasons
why there is a recruitment and | 3:53:38 | 3:53:42 | |
retention crisis in the profession.
In 2013, the foundation commissioned | 3:53:42 | 3:53:48 | |
a study called the global teacher
status index which found that only | 3:53:48 | 3:53:51 | |
in China are teachers seen as
occupying the same high perception | 3:53:51 | 3:53:56 | |
of doctors. Everywhere else,
teaching is seen as a middle to low | 3:53:56 | 3:53:59 | |
ranking profession in terms of
social status. | 3:53:59 | 3:54:04 | |
Keffiyeh, This prompted the
foundation to launch an annual $1 | 3:54:04 | 3:54:12 | |
million award presented to an
exceptional teacher. In only three | 3:54:12 | 3:54:15 | |
years since the launch the process
of awarding the prize has captured | 3:54:15 | 3:54:21 | |
worldwide imagination and attracts
over 30,000 entries from 178 | 3:54:21 | 3:54:25 | |
countries. There is little doubt
that teachers deserve to be | 3:54:25 | 3:54:31 | |
celebrated, given their impact on
students and communities. The third | 3:54:31 | 3:54:35 | |
lesson I wanted to highlight is the
holistic nature of education, the | 3:54:35 | 3:54:41 | |
most well known features are yoga
and medication. Research has shown | 3:54:41 | 3:54:46 | |
this can improve focus, memory,
self-esteem and reduce anxiety and | 3:54:46 | 3:54:59 | |
stress. The paper points to America
at a time when Americans are looking | 3:54:59 | 3:55:06 | |
east. There is a wave in yoga and
medication into the classroom. It is | 3:55:06 | 3:55:12 | |
only a matter of time before it
arrives here. To quote Mark Twain, | 3:55:12 | 3:55:18 | |
India is the cradle of the human
race, the birth place of human | 3:55:18 | 3:55:24 | |
speech, the mother of history and
the grandmother of tradition. Even | 3:55:24 | 3:55:29 | |
if only a small part of that is
true, we should learn from its | 3:55:29 | 3:55:35 | |
wisdom and deploy some of the
lessons I have described, | 3:55:35 | 3:55:40 | |
particularly those related to
elevating the status of teachers for | 3:55:40 | 3:55:46 | |
the benefit of generations to come.
Education is too good to be devoted | 3:55:46 | 3:55:51 | |
to the young, the young are far too
important to our future for their | 3:55:51 | 3:55:56 | |
education to be anything less than
holistic. By holistic, I mean | 3:55:56 | 3:56:03 | |
educating the whole person in every
aspect. Not just their brain, but | 3:56:03 | 3:56:12 | |
their heart and their soul. We
should be preparing the young for | 3:56:12 | 3:56:16 | |
the society, the economy, the
technology of tomorrow. For | 3:56:16 | 3:56:21 | |
tomorrow. But trying to do that
through a narrow foe customer on | 3:56:21 | 3:56:30 | |
testable is frankly plain wrong. The
desire should be that young leave as | 3:56:30 | 3:56:37 | |
young adults ready to make the most
of the gift and talents they enjoy. | 3:56:37 | 3:56:44 | |
So that can become productive
members of society in the work place | 3:56:44 | 3:56:47 | |
and in their families and in their
communities. Some will become | 3:56:47 | 3:56:55 | |
wealth-creators and employers.
Others will join the service and | 3:56:55 | 3:57:00 | |
caring professions and that will
include teaching. They will | 3:57:00 | 3:57:03 | |
contribute to the success of others.
The most important thing is that | 3:57:03 | 3:57:08 | |
their lives should be fulfilled and
happy. In a country that was | 3:57:08 | 3:57:16 | |
highlighted by Unicef as having the
unhappiness children in the world, | 3:57:16 | 3:57:20 | |
we have a great opportunity and we
can maximise that by fostering a | 3:57:20 | 3:57:25 | |
sense of duty, because research
suggests that the happiest people | 3:57:25 | 3:57:30 | |
are those that give. How do we
foster and develop that through | 3:57:30 | 3:57:35 | |
education? Well certainly not
through come partalised education. | 3:57:35 | 3:57:46 | |
The whole of education, all of it,
should develop character. And | 3:57:46 | 3:57:51 | |
families as well as schools must my
their part in developing those | 3:57:51 | 3:57:55 | |
qualities that are essential for
life, but can't be measured by | 3:57:55 | 3:58:00 | |
academic markers. Self-confidence
and discipline and resilience and | 3:58:00 | 3:58:06 | |
resourcefulness and emotional
intelligence, caring for all people | 3:58:06 | 3:58:08 | |
are key among the qualities that
make for happiness. You can't teach | 3:58:08 | 3:58:16 | |
these in 40 minutes slots. There
needs to be space in the curriculum | 3:58:16 | 3:58:20 | |
for all the other things, sports,
drama, debating, music, completing a | 3:58:20 | 3:58:26 | |
Duke of Edinburgh's award. All great
experiences that expand minds and | 3:58:26 | 3:58:31 | |
build character. Getting a thumping
on the rugby pitch. Finding yourself | 3:58:31 | 3:58:35 | |
lost in the Brecon beacons, working
as a team to put together an amazing | 3:58:35 | 3:58:43 | |
dramatic performance. These will
most certainly all teach youngsters | 3:58:43 | 3:58:50 | |
more about resilience than any
number of extra lessons on a Friday | 3:58:50 | 3:58:54 | |
afternoon. What is more, these
experiences actually help them, they | 3:58:54 | 3:58:58 | |
will help them to cope better with
tough maths problems. So this is not | 3:58:58 | 3:59:06 | |
an argument for diluting academic
rigor it is about encouraging a | 3:59:06 | 3:59:12 | |
wider view of education that will
help to raise standards. This what | 3:59:12 | 3:59:15 | |
is I mean by holistic education.
Education that is broad and | 3:59:15 | 3:59:22 | |
all-absorbing, that requires all
involved, students, teachers and | 3:59:22 | 3:59:27 | |
parents, to understand that
everything plays it part in | 3:59:27 | 3:59:33 | |
delivering a well rounded individual
equipped to play a useful role in | 3:59:33 | 3:59:38 | |
society. That means accepting not
even extra maths or English is more | 3:59:38 | 3:59:42 | |
important than a drama lesson or
sports and that we need to make | 3:59:42 | 3:59:47 | |
space for all these things. The most
important thing I have learned as a | 3:59:47 | 3:59:52 | |
businessman and a traveller and a
trustee focussing on disadvantaged | 3:59:52 | 3:59:59 | |
young people, that is we have some
truly exceptional young talent in | 3:59:59 | 4:00:03 | |
this country. And that most of those
from the most unpromising of back | 4:00:03 | 4:00:10 | |
grounds can achieve most remarkable
things. I have seen it first hand | 4:00:10 | 4:00:13 | |
many times. So let us help all our
young people to make the most of | 4:00:13 | 4:00:23 | |
their lives and maximise their
talents. Not by setting more tests, | 4:00:23 | 4:00:30 | |
but by liberating schools and
students to work together to build | 4:00:30 | 4:00:41 | |
character and happiness through a
truly holistic education. Lord | 4:00:41 | 4:00:47 | |
Murphy referred to our shared
educational experience in Wales. A | 4:00:47 | 4:00:53 | |
village of less than 7,000 people.
That produced five MPs, a few ended | 4:00:53 | 4:01:00 | |
up in the House of Lords and among
the MPs a Secretary for Wales, for | 4:01:00 | 4:01:05 | |
Northern Ireland and a Chancellor.
We may have lacked many things, but | 4:01:05 | 4:01:09 | |
we didn't lack ambition. I went on
in later life to represent a former | 4:01:09 | 4:01:16 | |
mining area. The areas of South
Wales that I'm familiar with | 4:01:16 | 4:01:21 | |
experienced deprivation, where many
people faced the challenges, the | 4:01:21 | 4:01:26 | |
massive challenges of social change
with the loss of pits and industry. | 4:01:26 | 4:01:30 | |
And the spirit of folk who lived
there was sorely tested. But for the | 4:01:30 | 4:01:35 | |
people of my parents' generation and
for mine too, there was a belief | 4:01:35 | 4:01:40 | |
that education was a path way out of
poverty. We saw education as a gate | 4:01:40 | 4:01:46 | |
way to opportunity. A better life
and a fulfilled life. Alas I'm not | 4:01:46 | 4:01:52 | |
sure that that spirit and belief is
widespread today. All too often I'm | 4:01:52 | 4:01:57 | |
struck by what I call poverty of
ambition. I remember visiting a | 4:01:57 | 4:02:03 | |
primary school and the head saying
to me when he came to the school, no | 4:02:03 | 4:02:07 | |
one expected anything from him.
Because no one in that village had | 4:02:07 | 4:02:11 | |
gone to university. It was not
because people were not intelligence | 4:02:11 | 4:02:15 | |
or lacked ability. Far from it. He
told me a story, he told a mother of | 4:02:15 | 4:02:22 | |
a pupil, her son, was going to
university. The boy was intelligent, | 4:02:22 | 4:02:29 | |
inquisitive, confident, articulate.
The mother replayed, don't be daft, | 4:02:29 | 4:02:33 | |
university is not for the likes of
us. This poverty of ambition is a | 4:02:33 | 4:02:41 | |
barrier to the advancement of
working people. Since I entered this | 4:02:41 | 4:02:44 | |
house I have been privileged to work
with people who want to grasp all | 4:02:44 | 4:02:48 | |
the opportunities that education can
offer. And because for so many of | 4:02:48 | 4:02:54 | |
the people I have in mind, people
with autism, their battle has been | 4:02:54 | 4:02:58 | |
that much harder. All too often just
to get a statement or diagnosis can | 4:02:58 | 4:03:04 | |
take years. But despite the
obstacles, there are many parents of | 4:03:04 | 4:03:15 | |
us autistic youngsters who will
fight for their children. There was | 4:03:15 | 4:03:19 | |
a report published called autism in
education and I want pay tribute to | 4:03:19 | 4:03:30 | |
two MPs, both Conservatives,
cochairs of inquiry that produced | 4:03:30 | 4:03:33 | |
the report. And in examining how the
system work they found that 78% of | 4:03:33 | 4:03:39 | |
parents say it has not been easy to
get support that their child needs. | 4:03:39 | 4:03:45 | |
42% of parents said their child was
refused an assessment of their | 4:03:45 | 4:03:50 | |
needs. 50% said they waited more
than a year for their child to | 4:03:50 | 4:03:56 | |
receive support at school. And 40%
said their child's school places do | 4:03:56 | 4:04:01 | |
not fully meet their needs. These
are not small numbers. They | 4:04:01 | 4:04:05 | |
demonstrate there are serious short
comings in educating children and | 4:04:05 | 4:04:09 | |
young people with autism in our
country. And I should declare an | 4:04:09 | 4:04:17 | |
interest as the vice chair to the
all party group. The author of the | 4:04:17 | 4:04:25 | |
act called for a national strategy.
Such a strategy would set out how | 4:04:25 | 4:04:30 | |
autistic youngsters could be
supported and what society should | 4:04:30 | 4:04:33 | |
provide for them. Why do we need
such a strategy? Three years on from | 4:04:33 | 4:04:42 | |
reforms of special educational
needs, children with autism are | 4:04:42 | 4:04:46 | |
being let down. Fewer than half the
young people are happy in school. | 4:04:46 | 4:04:50 | |
Six out of ten young people and
seven out of ten parents say the | 4:04:50 | 4:04:55 | |
main thing that would make the
school better is a teacher who | 4:04:55 | 4:05:00 | |
understands them. A mother told meed
she had not visited the school, | 4:05:00 | 4:05:10 | |
because he knew had a child with
autism, who understood his problems. | 4:05:10 | 4:05:20 | |
The most reverent primate titled the
debate the role of education in | 4:05:20 | 4:05:26 | |
building society, for me, education
and a skilled society are two sides | 4:05:26 | 4:05:29 | |
of same coin. The National Autistic
Society report saying, I'm not | 4:05:29 | 4:05:40 | |
unemployable, I'm autistic, they
highlighted the problems in employ. | 4:05:40 | 4:05:44 | |
Just 16% of autistic people are in
full-time employed and 16% fart | 4:05:44 | 4:05:49 | |
people. -- part-time. What a waste
of a life, what a waste of a talent | 4:05:49 | 4:06:02 | |
to much to enrich our society and
our economy. In the 21st Century | 4:06:02 | 4:06:09 | |
this lack of opportunity is wrong
and we should be ashamed of. Can I | 4:06:09 | 4:06:15 | |
ask the minister some questions. We
have called for the Government to | 4:06:15 | 4:06:21 | |
develop a national autism and
education strategy. Will the | 4:06:21 | 4:06:26 | |
Government agree to this. The MPs
wants local council to be | 4:06:26 | 4:06:31 | |
commissioners for children, can the
minister say if the Government | 4:06:31 | 4:06:33 | |
agrees with that. They argue that
schools should be equipped and | 4:06:33 | 4:06:37 | |
welcoming to ensure that autistic
pupils thrive. They erj all urge | 4:06:37 | 4:06:47 | |
ministers to make sure that every
child is supported in the way the | 4:06:47 | 4:06:51 | |
law says they should be. Is the
minister himself prepared to take | 4:06:51 | 4:06:54 | |
that leadership role in their own
department. As I look around at the | 4:06:54 | 4:07:00 | |
chamber, I see many colleague who
have championed the right of people | 4:07:00 | 4:07:05 | |
from ethnic minority, the rights of
Christians and non-Christians, the | 4:07:05 | 4:07:10 | |
rights of people to decide and
define their own sexual orientation. | 4:07:10 | 4:07:13 | |
All I ask is that each one of us if
we have the opportunity to champion | 4:07:13 | 4:07:18 | |
this cause too and make a
difference. Having been recycled in | 4:07:18 | 4:07:28 | |
your Lord ship's house this is in
the nature of a second maiden | 4:07:28 | 4:07:32 | |
speech. Perhaps with do maiden
speeches I might be described as | 4:07:32 | 4:07:41 | |
extra-virgin, double-pressed. But it
is an extraordinarily timely debate. | 4:07:41 | 4:07:47 | |
Most eloquently introduced by the
most reverent primate and we have | 4:07:47 | 4:07:50 | |
heard why from a number of other
noble speakers, I particular my | 4:07:50 | 4:07:56 | |
resonated with the sense of urgency
of the noble Lord, Lord Adonis and | 4:07:56 | 4:08:04 | |
the noble Baroness, lady Mackintosh,
her words about real dangers for | 4:08:04 | 4:08:09 | |
democracy, which I take very
seriously. Aristotle has been | 4:08:09 | 4:08:13 | |
invoked on a number of occasions
already, he has been put in his | 4:08:13 | 4:08:20 | |
place of course. By the earlier
sages of Indian subcontinent. But | 4:08:20 | 4:08:26 | |
Aristotle warned that there was a
recurring pattern of democracy | 4:08:26 | 4:08:41 | |
disintegrating because the Demos
ceased to have any shared moral | 4:08:41 | 4:08:45 | |
compass and became a crowd of
individuals and when that happens, | 4:08:45 | 4:08:51 | |
democracy fades and you have some
kind of tyranny. I think that the | 4:08:51 | 4:08:59 | |
comment about the real danger to
democracy in our time is one we | 4:08:59 | 4:09:04 | |
ought to heed. | 4:09:04 | 4:09:11 | |
Having heard other contributions to
this debate, I feel somewhat like | 4:09:11 | 4:09:16 | |
Ruth leaning out of a combine
harvester bought it is clear that we | 4:09:16 | 4:09:23 | |
are all agreed that places of
education are worthy intubated a | 4:09:23 | 4:09:26 | |
better future and of course it's
true historically that education | 4:09:26 | 4:09:32 | |
strategies have been at the heart of
various economic and social shifts, | 4:09:32 | 4:09:36 | |
they've been involved in the
Industrial Revolution but the growth | 4:09:36 | 4:09:43 | |
of the new knowledge-based economy
means now we are well into a century | 4:09:43 | 4:09:50 | |
of humanity as a whole most
eloquently being described by the | 4:09:50 | 4:09:57 | |
noble lord Lord Rees in his boot our
final century, a book with that | 4:09:57 | 4:10:05 | |
title and worryingly not supplied
with a question mark I noticed. We | 4:10:05 | 4:10:12 | |
need to, then it's a huge challenge
from various sources for humanity, | 4:10:12 | 4:10:17 | |
we need to covering the tree of
knowledge with the tree of wisdom | 4:10:17 | 4:10:20 | |
which sets knowledge in the context
of human flourishing. In a society | 4:10:20 | 4:10:27 | |
dominated by technology, technology
which has opened up new | 4:10:27 | 4:10:32 | |
possibilities, we need to rediscover
our hearts and everyone to avoid | 4:10:32 | 4:10:41 | |
moving into an ice age of humanity
then they must give more weight to | 4:10:41 | 4:10:46 | |
reasons of the hearts. People have
been working to develop computer | 4:10:46 | 4:10:51 | |
that can bring, the Japanese are
experimenting with care robots to | 4:10:51 | 4:10:59 | |
assist in the care of the elderly.
No one as far as I'm aware has | 4:10:59 | 4:11:04 | |
suggested developing a computer that
can laugh but our fulfilment and our | 4:11:04 | 4:11:12 | |
enjoyment in life, or the misery we
suffer does not depend on what we | 4:11:12 | 4:11:18 | |
know what we do not know, it does
depend on whether we love and | 4:11:18 | 4:11:24 | |
whether we are alarmed. Skills help
us to land the job, character is | 4:11:24 | 4:11:31 | |
what people talk about when you die.
And when what you did in design and | 4:11:31 | 4:11:40 | |
technology and GCSEs matters very
little. As the father of a teach | 4:11:40 | 4:11:45 | |
first graduate who is teaching in a
state school in Tower Hamlets, I | 4:11:45 | 4:11:51 | |
must say I bury much resonated with
the comments of the noble lord Lord | 4:11:51 | 4:11:56 | |
Griffiths that there was such a huge
gap between the aspirations that | 4:11:56 | 4:12:01 | |
have been described all the way
around the house and what is | 4:12:01 | 4:12:05 | |
actually happening on the ground.
The site to the noble minister is | 4:12:05 | 4:12:10 | |
going to be able to offer us all
assurance that serious consideration | 4:12:10 | 4:12:16 | |
will be given to widening scope. I
want you in conclusion draw | 4:12:16 | 4:12:24 | |
attention to one skill which has not
been explicitly mentioned so far in | 4:12:24 | 4:12:29 | |
this debate of which I believe is
crucial is we are to cultivate a | 4:12:29 | 4:12:40 | |
future in which we substantiate our
claim that even if we leave the EU, | 4:12:40 | 4:12:48 | |
we are not leaving Europe. That is
the provision of better language | 4:12:48 | 4:12:57 | |
training early in life. One of my
last acts as Bishop of London was to | 4:12:57 | 4:13:01 | |
open the new Saint Jerome 's School
in Harrow high Street, a state | 4:13:01 | 4:13:07 | |
funded church primary school where
it is not merely a school that | 4:13:07 | 4:13:14 | |
offers language teaching but the
whole curriculum is delivered in | 4:13:14 | 4:13:21 | |
French and in English. It is
actually virtually a trilingual | 4:13:21 | 4:13:26 | |
school because the language of most
of the schools... It seems to me | 4:13:26 | 4:13:34 | |
that facilitating and their language
is a very important contribution to | 4:13:34 | 4:13:39 | |
building the Western economy we need
and to actually secure ordering the | 4:13:39 | 4:13:46 | |
best possible and most flourishing
future if we do leave the EU. Thank | 4:13:46 | 4:13:50 | |
you. I'm honoured to follow the
noble lord. Now a highly eminent | 4:13:50 | 4:14:02 | |
personality on the cross benches and
I note also that the right Reverend, | 4:14:02 | 4:14:09 | |
the Archbishop of Canterbury, is
surrounded by a huge number of | 4:14:09 | 4:14:17 | |
people also so we are surrounded by
virtue. Alas my words... | 4:14:17 | 4:14:25 | |
LAUGHTER
Not on this backbencher this moment | 4:14:25 | 4:14:31 | |
where I'm all those by myself. My
remarks are perhaps a little bit | 4:14:31 | 4:14:36 | |
more practical, I seek to discuss
the new education as a tool to help | 4:14:36 | 4:14:46 | |
you and behaviour in a way that only
an enormous difference to those that | 4:14:46 | 4:14:51 | |
are influenced by them because their
state at the moment is so utterly | 4:14:51 | 4:14:56 | |
desperate. I had the pleasure of
reading a second conference with the | 4:14:56 | 4:15:02 | |
Bishop of Derby recently in St
Georges house Windsor. Our first | 4:15:02 | 4:15:09 | |
conference was an religious
persecution and its impact on false | 4:15:09 | 4:15:13 | |
migration. Our second conference was
just the other day and was led on | 4:15:13 | 4:15:17 | |
with that from religious persecution
and forced migration to return a | 4:15:17 | 4:15:24 | |
very different topic indeed, we are
very fortunate that we were provided | 4:15:24 | 4:15:32 | |
with a wonderful background paper,
we had a lot of charities, we had | 4:15:32 | 4:15:41 | |
universities, we had Oxford
University, with Doctor Theodore | 4:15:41 | 4:15:44 | |
Seldon and we had a number of
eminent officials from the | 4:15:44 | 4:15:50 | |
Commonwealth office and US State
Department. I should say that this | 4:15:50 | 4:15:56 | |
work sprang from the noble Lordship
of select committees on ballots in | 4:15:56 | 4:16:01 | |
conflict of which broke the vision
and Derby and I have been members. | 4:16:01 | 4:16:06 | |
Default is therefore was an very
much indeed the plight of the | 4:16:06 | 4:16:12 | |
Yazidis and others, now the wrecking
as sadly, who have been appallingly | 4:16:12 | 4:16:18 | |
abused in monstrous way that I
cannot articulate to day because | 4:16:18 | 4:16:22 | |
they are so utterly repugnant. --
the Yazidis and the Rohingyas. We | 4:16:22 | 4:16:35 | |
focused on three important points
were education came up to be the | 4:16:35 | 4:16:39 | |
sort of harbour of the recovery
potential. First of all, we are | 4:16:39 | 4:16:45 | |
talking about the recovery
post-sexual violence and other | 4:16:45 | 4:16:49 | |
violence. Secondly, we spoke about
survival in a cap and in that sort | 4:16:49 | 4:16:56 | |
of situation and we were distressed
to discover that in both refugee | 4:16:56 | 4:17:03 | |
camps and IDP sightings, there are
now 260 plus people in that in | 4:17:03 | 4:17:07 | |
remarkably few places in the world
that there is no education provision | 4:17:07 | 4:17:11 | |
by any aspect of the United Nations.
None. Then we talked about the | 4:17:11 | 4:17:18 | |
return where the most poignant
matter at the moment is perhaps the | 4:17:18 | 4:17:24 | |
reconstruction of the library of
Mosul. We talked about recovery, we | 4:17:24 | 4:17:31 | |
talked about physical, mental and
spiritual recovery. We pointed out | 4:17:31 | 4:17:37 | |
in our report which comes out next
week that there is no capability for | 4:17:37 | 4:17:41 | |
worship in any form of ideal refugee
camp situation, there is no space, | 4:17:41 | 4:17:48 | |
no credence, no leaders, there is no
in the secular world, no space for | 4:17:48 | 4:17:54 | |
worship. For people to have
religion, it is almost a critical | 4:17:54 | 4:18:00 | |
part of their identity, I urge the
Archbishop to think about that. We | 4:18:00 | 4:18:07 | |
talked also about the need for
psychiatry and psychosocial support | 4:18:07 | 4:18:12 | |
where we found that music and dance
were particularly important to the | 4:18:12 | 4:18:16 | |
creative arts and absolutely vital
in restoring the person. We noticed | 4:18:16 | 4:18:24 | |
that in these IDP camps,
particularly family, most had been | 4:18:24 | 4:18:33 | |
burned alive in front of these poor
survivors, these poor girls, boys | 4:18:33 | 4:18:37 | |
and young people, that Karen had
been killed in front of them. Some | 4:18:37 | 4:18:40 | |
bird alive, some very alive so there
was no family to look after them. -- | 4:18:40 | 4:18:49 | |
some b alive and some -- some buried
alive, some buried alive. What made | 4:18:49 | 4:19:00 | |
them feel that was an educational
city and if we could begin in what | 4:19:00 | 4:19:04 | |
was in the form of a classroom, you
could have a teacher colleagues have | 4:19:04 | 4:19:08 | |
a subject, it did not matter what
was going to be church, learning, | 4:19:08 | 4:19:11 | |
music, anything, suddenly they began
to feel very human again. We found | 4:19:11 | 4:19:18 | |
that education was a huge positive
input for their recovery. I would | 4:19:18 | 4:19:23 | |
say that in the charity I'd share,
well 25 years old next week, we have | 4:19:23 | 4:19:34 | |
looked after 10.5 million patients
at the 35 years and more importantly | 4:19:34 | 4:19:38 | |
for this debate, we have had 5
million pupils all of them in | 4:19:38 | 4:19:44 | |
refugee camps or IDP camps, or in
the backend of streets, people are | 4:19:44 | 4:19:52 | |
utterly and completely without any
home at all. Education however is | 4:19:52 | 4:19:56 | |
their biggest deprivation other than
physical health, food and shelter, | 4:19:56 | 4:20:02 | |
and I ask the primate himself, he
heads up regional unity, would you | 4:20:02 | 4:20:11 | |
be willing to put his weight dined
seeing these camps and full settings | 4:20:11 | 4:20:21 | |
having particularly religious
legislation incorporated, as well as | 4:20:21 | 4:20:28 | |
music, dancing, writing, singing,
being an absolute and not merely an | 4:20:28 | 4:20:32 | |
also ground in our secular society,
that doesn't actually get any space. | 4:20:32 | 4:20:40 | |
They are asking also to groups are
strings, support and clear vision of | 4:20:40 | 4:20:43 | |
who they are behind the Yazidis and
they will disappear if their | 4:20:43 | 4:20:51 | |
religion they worship is not
recognised in the same way that | 4:20:51 | 4:20:58 | |
almost everyone else has, which I am
a backbencher, would be kind enough. | 4:20:58 | 4:21:08 | |
I would like to begin by thanking
this debate -- thanking you for | 4:21:08 | 4:21:21 | |
having this debate secured. I warmed
by insight and compassion. Being the | 4:21:21 | 4:21:28 | |
last Speaker of the day means you're
not quite sure what you're going to | 4:21:28 | 4:21:31 | |
say. Every time you hear the
Speaker, you go away and discover a | 4:21:31 | 4:21:35 | |
paragraph of your notes. After
hearing 40 odd speakers, there was | 4:21:35 | 4:21:39 | |
not a single sentence in my notes
which I could keep and the result | 4:21:39 | 4:21:43 | |
therefore was that I was confronted
by a single sheet of paper and all I | 4:21:43 | 4:21:49 | |
could write that was relevant to the
debate, so you will forgive me if I | 4:21:49 | 4:21:57 | |
don't sounds to bravado. I am aiming
to raise certain questions in my | 4:21:57 | 4:22:02 | |
review that have not been raised.
Educational systems of any country | 4:22:02 | 4:22:08 | |
are generally shipped by two
factors, one is what kind of world | 4:22:08 | 4:22:12 | |
we live in, strange parameters that
you cannot cross. Secondly, what do | 4:22:12 | 4:22:17 | |
you want to do with that? Some
understanding of the fact you are | 4:22:17 | 4:22:22 | |
with you the kind of world we live
in and some aspirational element of | 4:22:22 | 4:22:27 | |
what kind of world who wish to
create. We are given some kind of | 4:22:27 | 4:22:33 | |
idea of the educational system we
wish to create to the first is what | 4:22:33 | 4:22:39 | |
kind will be live and natural to us
for characteristics. First the | 4:22:39 | 4:22:43 | |
diversity, it is the constant
movement of people, constant | 4:22:43 | 4:22:47 | |
movement of ideas of new ideologies,
new religions. Every day, confronted | 4:22:47 | 4:22:52 | |
with people who we have never seen
before, dress, matter of talking, | 4:22:52 | 4:22:59 | |
morals, the perversity is an
inescapable feature of modern life. | 4:22:59 | 4:23:04 | |
The second technology. Lives are
being dominated by technology and | 4:23:04 | 4:23:10 | |
artificial intelligence of which my
friend has great work, robotic, | 4:23:10 | 4:23:18 | |
computer, technology is in fact in
danger of replacing human reason, | 4:23:18 | 4:23:23 | |
the flight of reason by changing the
technique. The third is | 4:23:23 | 4:23:28 | |
globalisation. More importantly,
bringing home suffering of other | 4:23:28 | 4:23:36 | |
people in the world and making it
real to us so that the whole idea of | 4:23:36 | 4:23:41 | |
the human species is replaced by the
idea of a shared humanity or doing | 4:23:41 | 4:23:44 | |
community. | 4:23:44 | 4:23:50 | |
Starvation in other parts of world
matters to us, not just television | 4:23:50 | 4:23:58 | |
presents picture, but we have made
them a part of our mental universe. | 4:23:58 | 4:24:04 | |
And the market, the market is here
to stay. And it is being extended | 4:24:04 | 4:24:09 | |
into areas where it had n been
extended before. This is the kind of | 4:24:09 | 4:24:18 | |
world we are condemned to live, what
should we do to flourish in it? How | 4:24:18 | 4:24:24 | |
can we improve it. How can we
negotiate our way through it? I | 4:24:24 | 4:24:28 | |
think of all the capacities that
people are going to need to | 4:24:28 | 4:24:32 | |
negotiate their way through the
world, I watch to emphasise three | 4:24:32 | 4:24:38 | |
which have not been given the
attention they deserve and in my | 4:24:38 | 4:24:42 | |
view they're critically important. I
say this as someone has spent 60 | 4:24:42 | 4:24:47 | |
years of his life in education.
First as a student and latterly as a | 4:24:47 | 4:24:52 | |
vice Chancellor. First capacity we
need is imagination. | 4:24:52 | 4:25:06 | |
Not just analytical capacity, but
asking about anything we face, can | 4:25:08 | 4:25:11 | |
it be done otherwise. What are the
other ways of doing this. And not | 4:25:11 | 4:25:17 | |
only considering an alternative, but
appreciating others as alternatives, | 4:25:17 | 4:25:21 | |
if I see other religions I ask why
are they different from us. It was | 4:25:21 | 4:25:33 | |
talked about Hinduism. Why is the
India guru different from the | 4:25:33 | 4:25:44 | |
western teachers. The question is to
understand alternatives, to | 4:25:44 | 4:25:48 | |
appreciate altern Tiches and in the
process -- alternative and in the | 4:25:48 | 4:25:55 | |
process expand our moral compass.
The first thing is imagination as | 4:25:55 | 4:25:58 | |
the only way in which you can expand
your range of sympathy to take | 4:25:58 | 4:26:04 | |
others into your mental universe to
make them yours and also imagination | 4:26:04 | 4:26:10 | |
of the capacity by which you counter
the power of technology. Machines | 4:26:10 | 4:26:16 | |
can do anything, they can't imagine.
Imagination is the capacity which | 4:26:16 | 4:26:24 | |
allows you to prevent reason from
becoming a mere tool and make it | 4:26:24 | 4:26:34 | |
reflecktive. The second capacity is
self-criticism. This is rare. It | 4:26:34 | 4:26:40 | |
means seeing through the prejudices
when it accumulates over the course | 4:26:40 | 4:26:45 | |
of a life as when one grows in a
particular culture, certain | 4:26:45 | 4:26:53 | |
prejudices become natural. But we
need to see them there and that is | 4:26:53 | 4:26:56 | |
rare. I want to give an example from
India. In 1820, India had a long | 4:26:56 | 4:27:05 | |
tradition of public debate, when the
missionaries came they organised a | 4:27:05 | 4:27:10 | |
public debate between him and the
Hindu pundits. 6,000 people in the | 4:27:10 | 4:27:16 | |
audience and the Christians asked
what is the first question, do you | 4:27:16 | 4:27:21 | |
believe in one God or many,
expecting the answer to be many. The | 4:27:21 | 4:27:26 | |
Hindus said your question is
incoherent. You are preconceiving | 4:27:26 | 4:27:37 | |
God is one. Is electricity one or
many and so exactly. There are | 4:27:37 | 4:27:43 | |
questions that absurd you are
assuming that God is not an | 4:27:43 | 4:27:47 | |
impersonal power. It is blasphemous
because your limiting God to the | 4:27:47 | 4:27:54 | |
powers of human man. Why can't God
be one and many. Next question | 4:27:54 | 4:28:02 | |
please. Now. What is wrong here?
What is wrong here is the not the | 4:28:02 | 4:28:08 | |
questions. But the inability to
question the questions themselves. | 4:28:08 | 4:28:13 | |
You ask the other question expecting
an answer which you can then decide | 4:28:13 | 4:28:16 | |
whether it is right or wrong. But
your answer is, you're judging the | 4:28:16 | 4:28:21 | |
answer in terms of your categories.
What about the accuracy of your | 4:28:21 | 4:28:27 | |
question turned on you and say, but
I question your questions? I could | 4:28:27 | 4:28:32 | |
go on, but I shall stop there before
they ask me twice. The third, in | 4:28:32 | 4:28:39 | |
that context I think rising above
prejudice. In some literature which | 4:28:39 | 4:28:52 | |
I have studied, education is defined
as that alone is learning which | 4:28:52 | 4:28:58 | |
liberates you. Liberates you from
your conditioning and your | 4:28:58 | 4:29:02 | |
prejudices and to be able to
liberate myself from this prejudice, | 4:29:02 | 4:29:08 | |
that prejudice, the whole life is an
accumulation of prejudice and | 4:29:08 | 4:29:13 | |
liberating from that. The third
characteristic, is... In the absence | 4:29:13 | 4:29:20 | |
of a better world I will call
wisdom. Wisdom is a capacity to | 4:29:20 | 4:29:29 | |
understand the value of something
and to understand the value of | 4:29:29 | 4:29:32 | |
something is both to know its
significant and its limits. Human | 4:29:32 | 4:29:38 | |
rights are very valuable, but to
push them in an area where you talk | 4:29:38 | 4:29:42 | |
of an old lady being forced to eat
in a toilet or a child's right to | 4:29:42 | 4:29:51 | |
love. Is everything a matter of
human right? The question is just as | 4:29:51 | 4:29:58 | |
human rights are important, but in
their own place. Like my market, | 4:29:58 | 4:30:04 | |
very important but it has limited.
The greatest mistake in my view and | 4:30:04 | 4:30:08 | |
I say what the Margaret Thatcher did
was to extend the range of the | 4:30:08 | 4:30:13 | |
market into areas where it did not
belong and it extended into | 4:30:13 | 4:30:20 | |
education and the scandal of the
vice Chancellor's salary and | 4:30:20 | 4:30:25 | |
students not getting proper
education is all the product of | 4:30:25 | 4:30:31 | |
markisation of education and that is
the result of not having sufficient | 4:30:31 | 4:30:35 | |
wisdom and not having the value of
the limits of market. Thank you to | 4:30:35 | 4:30:42 | |
the Archbishop for introducing this
debate. I was not there when the | 4:30:42 | 4:30:53 | |
Balfor act became law a hundred
years ago. But it tried and | 4:30:53 | 4:30:57 | |
succeeded in transforming the system
of education in England and Wales | 4:30:57 | 4:31:04 | |
and ended the divide between board
schools and those run by the church. | 4:31:04 | 4:31:13 | |
Herbert Fisher introduced the Fisher
Act of 1918. Which made compulsory | 4:31:13 | 4:31:19 | |
education up to the age of 14 and
made it the responsibility of local | 4:31:19 | 4:31:24 | |
education authorities. In preparing
for this I was reflecting on how far | 4:31:24 | 4:31:29 | |
we have come in the last hundred
years and what compulsory education | 4:31:29 | 4:31:34 | |
now means. Many children start
school at 4 and most have the | 4:31:34 | 4:31:38 | |
benefit of at least 15 hours of free
nursery education. School leaving | 4:31:38 | 4:31:43 | |
age is 16. But the expectation is
that every young person will | 4:31:43 | 4:31:48 | |
continue their full-time education
until they're 18 and most will | 4:31:48 | 4:31:52 | |
continue to study at college or
university or as part of an | 4:31:52 | 4:31:56 | |
apprenticeship course. The notion of
a broad and balanced curriculum was | 4:31:56 | 4:32:00 | |
put into statute when the noble Lord
Baker introduced the education | 4:32:00 | 4:32:06 | |
reform act in 1988. And the
intro-Dux of the English | 4:32:06 | 4:32:13 | |
baccalaureate is the Government's
current notion of what is a broad | 4:32:13 | 4:32:17 | |
and balanced curriculum. Many of us
having do not think it allows for | 4:32:17 | 4:32:21 | |
the creative and soft skills to find
space in that curriculum. What I | 4:32:21 | 4:32:27 | |
want to focus on is that
increasingly a large group of | 4:32:27 | 4:32:33 | |
children and young people school
means an unregistered and illegal | 4:32:33 | 4:32:37 | |
school. In these schools, often in
appalling and unsafe accommodation | 4:32:37 | 4:32:44 | |
there is a focus on religious tracts
with doctrine driving out the | 4:32:44 | 4:32:52 | |
development of inquiring minds. The
Chief Inspector three years ago | 4:32:52 | 4:32:57 | |
wrote two advice letters to
Secretary of State on unregistered | 4:32:57 | 4:33:01 | |
schools. In November 2014 and again
in the December. He wrote pointing | 4:33:01 | 4:33:08 | |
out that unregistered, illegal
schools, were often squalid, staff | 4:33:08 | 4:33:14 | |
had not been vetted for child
safeguarding, pupils were being | 4:33:14 | 4:33:22 | |
taught a narrow curriculum. And boys
and girls were segregated. He said | 4:33:22 | 4:33:26 | |
it is vital that when we do identify
illegal activity the full force of | 4:33:26 | 4:33:31 | |
law is brought to bear on them.
Unfortunately the full force of law | 4:33:31 | 4:33:37 | |
is neither full n forceful enough to
bring a successful prosecution. | 4:33:37 | 4:33:48 | |
Because as a result the department
issued a consultation called, out of | 4:33:48 | 4:33:54 | |
school education settings, call for
evidence. On the Government's web | 4:33:54 | 4:33:59 | |
side today I read we are analysing
your feedback, and the reader is | 4:33:59 | 4:34:05 | |
invited to visit the page soon to
down load the outop come of this | 4:34:05 | 4:34:12 | |
feedback. This was put on the
web-site in January 2016 and I | 4:34:12 | 4:34:17 | |
understand that this consultation
holds the record for the length of | 4:34:17 | 4:34:20 | |
time without any feedback. Perhaps
too years is stretching the | 4:34:20 | 4:34:24 | |
definition of soon to breaking
point. One of the reasons perhaps | 4:34:24 | 4:34:28 | |
for the silence is that the
threshold for out of school settings | 4:34:28 | 4:34:34 | |
including attendant at a centre for
more than six hours a week, would | 4:34:34 | 4:34:40 | |
have captured many activities
undertaken by churches. Perhaps the | 4:34:40 | 4:34:48 | |
Archbishop might reflect on the
opposition of the Church of England | 4:34:48 | 4:34:52 | |
of the regulation of out of school
education. Agreeing to the | 4:34:52 | 4:34:56 | |
registration and light touch
inspection is surely a small price | 4:34:56 | 4:35:01 | |
to pay for ensuring that young
people are safe and are given an | 4:35:01 | 4:35:05 | |
education that will with enable them
to flourish and develop skills and | 4:35:05 | 4:35:11 | |
understanding. Let me turn to
another matter. Our higher education | 4:35:11 | 4:35:15 | |
is the envy of the world and the
commitment and hard work that | 4:35:15 | 4:35:21 | |
students invest to obtain
qualifications is laudable. We need | 4:35:21 | 4:35:25 | |
to guarantee the integrity and
honesty of the qualifications. The | 4:35:25 | 4:35:36 | |
majority of undergraduates work
hard, work part-time to pay the | 4:35:36 | 4:35:41 | |
bills. Of course, racking up huge
personal debt. Think of how they | 4:35:41 | 4:35:46 | |
must feel when they see other young
people encouraged by a ruthless | 4:35:46 | 4:35:53 | |
individual who have their essays
written for them by fake degrees on | 4:35:53 | 4:35:58 | |
line and are signed up for a higher
education course with no real | 4:35:58 | 4:36:02 | |
expectation of completing that
course. So the students can obtain | 4:36:02 | 4:36:06 | |
cash and the institution collects a
hefty fee. During the passage of | 4:36:06 | 4:36:11 | |
what is now the higher and education
research act, I was assured by the | 4:36:11 | 4:36:17 | |
Government that essay mills were not
a significant problem. Perhaps the | 4:36:17 | 4:36:21 | |
minister might like to reflect on
that assurance in the light of | 4:36:21 | 4:36:25 | |
recent events. What does minister
believe his activities will do for | 4:36:25 | 4:36:31 | |
the reputation of our higher
education system? In concluding I | 4:36:31 | 4:36:34 | |
would like to go back to basics and
talk about early years. This is | 4:36:34 | 4:36:39 | |
where the foundations of a
flourishing society are laid. The | 4:36:39 | 4:36:46 | |
OECD published education opportunity
for all. This report states the | 4:36:46 | 4:36:52 | |
access to higher education
importance that access to quality | 4:36:52 | 4:36:58 | |
and early childhood education should
be about and talks of accumulation | 4:36:58 | 4:37:02 | |
of disadvantage that starts at birth
for many. Earlive Early education | 4:37:02 | 4:37:11 | |
has been the envy of the world and
it needs the appropriate staff and | 4:37:11 | 4:37:19 | |
opportunities for continuing
professional development. If we are | 4:37:19 | 4:37:23 | |
serious about social mobility our
settings are not about mild minding, | 4:37:23 | 4:37:29 | |
but offering an excellenting --
child minding, but offering an | 4:37:29 | 4:37:33 | |
excellent opportunity to children
and support to parents. The | 4:37:33 | 4:37:36 | |
Government should not allow this to
decline from the magnificent to the | 4:37:36 | 4:37:41 | |
immediate yoke we are. He mediocre.
It was interesting to hear Lord | 4:37:41 | 4:37:50 | |
Adonis and his views on the pay of
those who lead our universities. I | 4:37:50 | 4:37:53 | |
was surprised or perhaps not, he did
not rail against the hundreds of | 4:37:53 | 4:37:58 | |
thousands of pounds paid to the
chief executive multi-Academy trusts | 4:37:58 | 4:38:06 | |
that receive more pay. Perhaps he
may like to talk to Joe Johnson and | 4:38:06 | 4:38:13 | |
come to some accomodation so the
same body would could look at the | 4:38:13 | 4:38:19 | |
leadership of trusts. The minister
has been providing with an agenda | 4:38:19 | 4:38:25 | |
that would transform the system were
to Government to adopt it. Of course | 4:38:25 | 4:38:29 | |
edge case England depends on the
high quality of leadership in our | 4:38:29 | 4:38:36 | |
schools, colleges and universities
and the dedication of our teachers. | 4:38:36 | 4:38:39 | |
It is the work they do each day in
often very difficult circumstances | 4:38:39 | 4:38:45 | |
which change the lives of our
children and young people for good. | 4:38:45 | 4:39:00 | |
I, too, congratulate the most
Reverend Private and leading and | 4:39:00 | 4:39:04 | |
introducing so eloquently to the
debate the debate on this subject | 4:39:04 | 4:39:10 | |
and that so many noble lords have
recognised that by participating. | 4:39:10 | 4:39:18 | |
Joshua Watson was mentioned and I
was tempted to wonder whether or not | 4:39:18 | 4:39:22 | |
he was a four borough of mine. He is
the man who founded the National | 4:39:22 | 4:39:28 | |
Society of 1811, he told us as he
also told us that they Luddites were | 4:39:28 | 4:39:35 | |
formed then and I think my
forbearers were involved there but I | 4:39:35 | 4:39:38 | |
don't know. The most reverent
Private spoke of speaking about the | 4:39:38 | 4:39:45 | |
most person, the judge of England
was a vision of education and that | 4:39:45 | 4:39:47 | |
vision reflects the importance of
preparing children for all aspects | 4:39:47 | 4:39:50 | |
of life on investing in your general
well-being. As many noble lords have | 4:39:50 | 4:39:55 | |
said, not enough is being done to
promote well-being from an early age | 4:39:55 | 4:39:59 | |
which will make it difficult for
young people to become resilient | 4:39:59 | 4:40:04 | |
with improved academic attainment
leading to the skills needed by | 4:40:04 | 4:40:07 | |
employers and by the economy at
large while enabling them to make a | 4:40:07 | 4:40:11 | |
positive contribution to psyche.
Today's paper will need to be | 4:40:11 | 4:40:19 | |
prepared to look into several
careers because of the working of | 4:40:19 | 4:40:21 | |
their parents and grandparents of
the earlier this year, a vision set | 4:40:21 | 4:40:25 | |
out for an education system in which
their passports are required and | 4:40:25 | 4:40:29 | |
were at church schools, the doors
are open to the wider community | 4:40:29 | 4:40:32 | |
itself. Integration as I read it,
advocated by the noble lord Lord | 4:40:32 | 4:40:38 | |
Baker and by nine double friend Lord
Judd. Certainly something which we | 4:40:38 | 4:40:43 | |
had ventures that write you and it
is notable to see that the judge | 4:40:43 | 4:40:47 | |
stated its intention only to open
inclusive schools in the future. I | 4:40:47 | 4:40:51 | |
have used say really most welcome
for other churches and religious | 4:40:51 | 4:40:54 | |
bodies respond or fall running state
schools to do the same and for that | 4:40:54 | 4:40:58 | |
reason, I'm afraid I cannot agree
with my noble friend Lord Murphy on | 4:40:58 | 4:41:02 | |
the faith school camp Labour policy
is that the cap has only been put in | 4:41:02 | 4:41:08 | |
place since 2011 and has not yet had
time to facilitate greater | 4:41:08 | 4:41:12 | |
integration which is its raison
d'etre. The education policy | 4:41:12 | 4:41:20 | |
entitled Educating For Our Economic
Future in which it urges to put the | 4:41:20 | 4:41:28 | |
economy first and try to fill that
landscape. That would sap | 4:41:28 | 4:41:35 | |
productivity, wages and housing
supply, serious restaurant social | 4:41:35 | 4:41:39 | |
mobility for the young.
Opportunities will be created for | 4:41:39 | 4:41:42 | |
those able to adjust their career
path and take advantage of high | 4:41:42 | 4:41:44 | |
skilled jobs but there are risks
that many would be trapped in | 4:41:44 | 4:41:49 | |
low-paid jobs with minimum
employment rights. Lord Baker also | 4:41:49 | 4:41:54 | |
drew attention to computer education
like coding. A lot of people in | 4:41:54 | 4:42:00 | |
England have either basic or no
information technology skills. As | 4:42:00 | 4:42:08 | |
the EPI report warns, proficiency
with social media should not be | 4:42:08 | 4:42:11 | |
mistaken for digital literacy and
work -based digital skills. The | 4:42:11 | 4:42:14 | |
gunmen shoot Dell a fresh and
problems of strategy for lifelong | 4:42:14 | 4:42:18 | |
learning from early years through
school to further and higher | 4:42:18 | 4:42:22 | |
education. With a view to lifelong
learning. I have to say that if that | 4:42:22 | 4:42:30 | |
sounds rather familiar to the cradle
to grave national education service | 4:42:30 | 4:42:35 | |
being advocated by Labour, that is
purely coincidental. My Lords, | 4:42:35 | 4:42:41 | |
lifelong learning is not just about
education, the bad quality of, | 4:42:41 | 4:42:47 | |
increasing opportunities and
reducing the inequality. Recent | 4:42:47 | 4:42:53 | |
research from the officer signs
noted that lifelong learning has | 4:42:53 | 4:42:58 | |
longer benefits, including improved
mental and physical health, social | 4:42:58 | 4:43:01 | |
cohesion and integration of greater
unity involvement and improve | 4:43:01 | 4:43:07 | |
democratic participation, all of
which are components of a | 4:43:07 | 4:43:09 | |
flourishing society. In Alang
learning and learning, part-time | 4:43:09 | 4:43:15 | |
higher education is a catalyst for
widening employability but over the | 4:43:15 | 4:43:20 | |
past decade, nearly 4000 part-time
adult students have been lost from | 4:43:20 | 4:43:24 | |
higher education and the threefold
increase in tuition fees over that | 4:43:24 | 4:43:27 | |
period is of course a major
contributory factor. I wonder where | 4:43:27 | 4:43:30 | |
these people have gone and what
skills and career opportunities they | 4:43:30 | 4:43:35 | |
have foregone because a prosperous
learning and earning higher | 4:43:35 | 4:43:38 | |
education sector is needed more than
ever, not only because it increases | 4:43:38 | 4:43:42 | |
productivity and regional skills but
because it promotes social mobility. | 4:43:42 | 4:43:47 | |
The governments would facilitate an
accessible and affordable system for | 4:43:47 | 4:43:50 | |
adults that encourages that lifelong
learning and tackle the basic skills | 4:43:50 | 4:43:54 | |
shortage that our economy is going
to need. In the future. As my noble | 4:43:54 | 4:44:03 | |
friend Lord McConnell and the noble
lord Lord Lingfield said, the | 4:44:03 | 4:44:06 | |
further education sector is very
much the poor relation in comparison | 4:44:06 | 4:44:11 | |
higher education was the overly past
decade, further colleges have been | 4:44:11 | 4:44:13 | |
hit harder. It is an issue that must
be confronted by the Department for | 4:44:13 | 4:44:22 | |
Education colleges are to fully play
their part in the Department of | 4:44:22 | 4:44:25 | |
apprenticeships. Apprenticeships
have a vital role in the heart of | 4:44:25 | 4:44:29 | |
our response to skills shortages.
The apprenticeship levy and range | 4:44:29 | 4:44:36 | |
for apprenticeships to encompass
education in the technical aspect of | 4:44:36 | 4:44:40 | |
both broad moves. The Government is
seemingly excessively targeted 3 | 4:44:40 | 4:44:43 | |
million printed by 2020, quantity
will triumph over quality was not | 4:44:43 | 4:44:49 | |
enough above level two. There are
worrying signs were flatly's | 4:44:49 | 4:44:52 | |
announcement as referred to for
several noble lords that there has | 4:44:52 | 4:44:59 | |
been a drop in apprenticeships from
the last three months of the | 4:44:59 | 4:45:05 | |
academic year converted the same
time as a year ago. My noble lord | 4:45:05 | 4:45:10 | |
offered a thought-provoking and
provocative 6-point plan from some | 4:45:10 | 4:45:13 | |
of the issues here, included in the
role of the public sector in | 4:45:13 | 4:45:17 | |
supporting apprenticeships which is
certainly something that is worth | 4:45:17 | 4:45:22 | |
considering. I believe that their
success is to be achieved in the | 4:45:22 | 4:45:29 | |
development of relevant skills in
the future shape of our economy, it | 4:45:29 | 4:45:32 | |
must have social mobility at its
heart. A major component of | 4:45:32 | 4:45:38 | |
encouraging young people is to offer
them a varied and appropriate | 4:45:38 | 4:45:43 | |
careers advice at school, I very
much welcome the announcement by the | 4:45:43 | 4:45:48 | |
noble Viscount Lord Younger that the
Government is to publish a career | 4:45:48 | 4:45:51 | |
strategy early next year with an
emphasis on social mobility because | 4:45:51 | 4:45:54 | |
good career advice is important and
social mobility as it tells people | 4:45:54 | 4:46:01 | |
what my opportunities that they may
not even have considered. Andy I | 4:46:01 | 4:46:05 | |
believe that no school should be a
outstanding greater of the careers | 4:46:05 | 4:46:09 | |
advice offered to them is not in
itself outstanding and that might | 4:46:09 | 4:46:13 | |
concentrate the minds of some
headteachers from and you often | 4:46:13 | 4:46:17 | |
overwhelming concern is the channel
as many of their pupils as possible | 4:46:17 | 4:46:21 | |
to university. A career advice and
lack of were issuing mean that even | 4:46:21 | 4:46:25 | |
with the same GCSE results, one more
who are children drop off and better | 4:46:25 | 4:46:31 | |
off classmates and that is not a
statistic that is not a specific and | 4:46:31 | 4:46:35 | |
any Government shoot regardless
tolerable. It is widely recognised | 4:46:35 | 4:46:42 | |
that the key factor as referred to
by various local causing increasing | 4:46:42 | 4:46:44 | |
social ability in the deluge
provision, referred to a view moment | 4:46:44 | 4:46:50 | |
ago by the noble lord Lord story,
that is an emphasis on learning | 4:46:50 | 4:46:55 | |
through play rather than childcare
and is advocated forcibly by the | 4:46:55 | 4:46:59 | |
noble Baroness. These have a lasting
impact on the stark social class | 4:46:59 | 4:47:07 | |
differences Bulldogs pro-government
concerned with writing social | 4:47:07 | 4:47:11 | |
mobility, that is the only priority
should lie. That is why sure start | 4:47:11 | 4:47:16 | |
centres were wanted by Labour to
decade ago with a particular remit | 4:47:16 | 4:47:19 | |
to providing early help to infants
from disadvantaged backgrounds | 4:47:19 | 4:47:23 | |
before they started school, being
viewed is all but a sex session of | 4:47:23 | 4:47:29 | |
the director indirect since 2010 has
seen many closures from sure start | 4:47:29 | 4:47:34 | |
centres, referred to by the right
reverend, the Bishop of Gloucester, | 4:47:34 | 4:47:38 | |
and you will Lord Wallace of salty
air. Indeed, those continue to grow | 4:47:38 | 4:47:44 | |
at a rate of one per week. The
Government seems to not be willing | 4:47:44 | 4:47:48 | |
to commit the re-sources to this
funding. They continue to fall | 4:47:48 | 4:47:53 | |
behind losing ground to their
contemporaries from better off | 4:47:53 | 4:47:55 | |
families which are never recovered.
Last year, the Government close the | 4:47:55 | 4:48:01 | |
Child poverty unit, involving cross
departmental issues and initiatives, | 4:48:01 | 4:48:05 | |
which will bring about the joined up
Government necessary to reduce child | 4:48:05 | 4:48:08 | |
poverty. It is no wonder that the
Joseph Rowntree foundation reported | 4:48:08 | 4:48:13 | |
this week that almost 100,000 more
children were living in poverty last | 4:48:13 | 4:48:17 | |
year with comparison to 2012-13.
Neither of the outgoing chairs on | 4:48:17 | 4:48:23 | |
the social mobility commission which
had the words child poverty removed | 4:48:23 | 4:48:26 | |
from its title last year when the
Government gave us one of his | 4:48:26 | 4:48:29 | |
reasons for leaving his post that
the Government no longer prioritises | 4:48:29 | 4:48:36 | |
tackling child poverty. Lord Casey
was referred to by the most reverend | 4:48:36 | 4:48:42 | |
private and using the Prime Minister
at having done at literally nothing | 4:48:42 | 4:48:46 | |
about immediately cohesion a year
after superseding the review that | 4:48:46 | 4:48:49 | |
the Government at that them to
undertake. These words are not the | 4:48:49 | 4:48:53 | |
actions of a Government series
interested in promoting social | 4:48:53 | 4:48:55 | |
mobility. This debate of course does
not take place in a vacuum. I | 4:48:55 | 4:49:00 | |
suspect that the noble lord colony
Minister, will tell us that like the | 4:49:00 | 4:49:03 | |
fears expressed by many noble lords,
it little cause for concern because | 4:49:03 | 4:49:08 | |
of the action garment is taking oral
shall be initiated. Seems the | 4:49:08 | 4:49:12 | |
current has got a single item on its
agenda at present and that will | 4:49:12 | 4:49:16 | |
continue at least until 2019. That
is quite unacceptable that the shape | 4:49:16 | 4:49:21 | |
of a future post European Union is
being allowed to suffocate | 4:49:21 | 4:49:24 | |
initiatives that the Government
should be pursuing a bigger and this | 4:49:24 | 4:49:27 | |
has highlighted the issues that are
essential for skills at the | 4:49:27 | 4:49:30 | |
workforce of the future will require
a to be developed the current par-3 | 4:49:30 | 4:49:34 | |
on this vital area of policy and if
it does not, the next one certainly | 4:49:34 | 4:49:39 | |
will. My Lords, I would like to
thank the most reverend Private, the | 4:49:39 | 4:49:53 | |
Archbishop of Canterbury for
convening today's debate. I'm glad | 4:49:53 | 4:49:56 | |
to support this notion on behalf of
the Government. Education is | 4:49:56 | 4:50:03 | |
fundamental in creating a
flourishing society. A good | 4:50:03 | 4:50:07 | |
education system is one that opens
up real opportunities to children | 4:50:07 | 4:50:11 | |
and young people regardless of the
background. I think the noble lord, | 4:50:11 | 4:50:16 | |
Lord Sacks, putted better, to defend
a civilisation, one needs to defend | 4:50:16 | 4:50:22 | |
a good education system. I also
agree that it needs to help defend | 4:50:22 | 4:50:27 | |
the actualisation of society. This
Government has made it a priority to | 4:50:27 | 4:50:33 | |
increase access to opportunity at
every step of education. By 2020, | 4:50:33 | 4:50:38 | |
2020, we will be spending a record
£6 billion per year on child care | 4:50:38 | 4:50:45 | |
and early education. There are now
1.9 million more children being | 4:50:45 | 4:50:48 | |
taught in schools that are good or
outstanding than was the case in | 4:50:48 | 4:50:52 | |
2010. The Southern drop tells us
that raising levels of social | 4:50:52 | 4:51:00 | |
mobility to those of our peers would
boost GDP by as much as £39 billion | 4:51:00 | 4:51:05 | |
per year. These are simple financial
reasons to achieve it by building a | 4:51:05 | 4:51:10 | |
civilised society includes reaching
out to the weakest. The noble lord | 4:51:10 | 4:51:16 | |
Lord Wallace and the right reverend
bishop of Gloucester radian portions | 4:51:16 | 4:51:22 | |
of the early years. We want to put
an end to the situation in which | 4:51:22 | 4:51:27 | |
children from less advanced
background are already falling | 4:51:27 | 4:51:29 | |
behind on language and literacy
before they have even started | 4:51:29 | 4:51:33 | |
school. The noble lord Lord Watson
raised these as well. We are | 4:51:33 | 4:51:39 | |
committed to closing the gaps to
early intervention starting with | 4:51:39 | 4:51:43 | |
high-quality learning from the age
of two years old. To achieve this, | 4:51:43 | 4:51:46 | |
we have introduced 15 weeks a year
to preach Altair are for children | 4:51:46 | 4:51:54 | |
from disadvantaged backgrounds. £6
billion per year will be spent on | 4:51:54 | 4:51:57 | |
early years education. -- 15 weeks
per year of free childcare. We are | 4:51:57 | 4:52:11 | |
committed to tackling this gap. We
have had actions already such as | 4:52:11 | 4:52:15 | |
opening up the strategic school
improvement fund. The £12 million | 4:52:15 | 4:52:21 | |
for network of English clubs
targeting initiatives in areas of | 4:52:21 | 4:52:24 | |
week early language and literacy. In
schools, we will focus on great | 4:52:24 | 4:52:31 | |
teaching in order to transfer form
for disadvantaged pupils, supporting | 4:52:31 | 4:52:37 | |
teacher training, recruitment and
retention, particularly in | 4:52:37 | 4:52:40 | |
challenging areas to ensure that all
students have access to a | 4:52:40 | 4:52:44 | |
high-quality education. This
includes investing a further £75 | 4:52:44 | 4:52:48 | |
million from the teaching and
leadership innovation fund to | 4:52:48 | 4:52:50 | |
provide professional development for
those working in such areas. The | 4:52:50 | 4:52:56 | |
most reverend primates book about
passion for early education as did | 4:52:56 | 4:53:05 | |
Lord Linfield and McConnell. Young
people over the age of 16, we will | 4:53:05 | 4:53:09 | |
ensure that our education system
offers a gold standard for all, not | 4:53:09 | 4:53:13 | |
just a half to go on to A-levels and
university. We will pursue | 4:53:13 | 4:53:17 | |
excellence of 16, we will ensure
that our education system offers a | 4:53:17 | 4:53:19 | |
gold standard for all, not just a
half to go on to A-levels and | 4:53:19 | 4:53:22 | |
university. We will pursue
excellence in full education as we | 4:53:22 | 4:53:24 | |
have in our schools and we'll
introduce key levels, technical | 4:53:24 | 4:53:26 | |
qualifications that will be every
bit as rigorous and respected as | 4:53:26 | 4:53:30 | |
academic A-levels. -- T-levels.
Those of resulting further | 4:53:30 | 4:53:34 | |
education, he T-level programme will
involve an investment of £500 | 4:53:34 | 4:53:37 | |
million per year by the time it is
rolled out. | 4:53:37 | 4:53:42 | |
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