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Lord Archbishop of Canterbury.

My

lords. I'm grateful to the usual

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channels for making time for me to

lead a debate. It is something of a

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tradition for the debates to be held

in early December. Although later

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and less well-established than the

John Lewis adverts, it is a sure

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sign that Christmas is around the

corner. Last year, I lead a debate

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on shared national values which

featured some thoughtful speeches.

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I'm sure that today's debate will be

equally as impressive and I am

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grateful to many of your Lordships

for making time to attend. It will

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be a pleasure to hear the first

speech from the noble Lord. I'm

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delighted that Lord Sachs will be

speaking today. He has told me he

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will need to leave in order to get

home in time for the sabbath but it

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is good that he has come here at

all. There is a link between today's

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debate on education and the previous

one on shared values. I hope to give

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an outline of the sort of values

that we suggest should underpin our

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education system and the structures

that might support them so that we

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may create a society where mutual

and individual flourishing become

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the norm. As in so many areas of our

public life, it was the churches

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that pioneered the idea of a

universal system of education free

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for all. In 1811, Joshua Watson

founded the National Society for

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promoting the education of the poor

in England and Wales. Fortunately,

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our titles are shorter nowadays. He

was described as the best layman in

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England. That is a title due for

revival. What was started in 1811

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lives on today as the National

Society. I declare an interest, as

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the co-president. My right

honourable friend, the Bishop of

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Ely, here's the Council of the

National society. He set of values

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framework that was important, as was

the imperative in his idea to

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improve productivity and fight

embedded squalor. By 1870 there were

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too many children in schools for the

churches to cope with alone. The

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first of the great education act

brought them under state control.

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Still with a strong religious

participation. Today, the Church of

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England alone educates over 1

million pupils each year each day.

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26% of all primaries and 6% of all

secondary schools. Joshua Watson and

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his friends conceived their plans at

a time of great national crisis and

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upheaval. The Luddite movement was a

response to fear of redundancy

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because of growing technological

advances. Two centuries later and

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the advances are different but still

there. We are calling it the fourth

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industrial revolution. As the World

Economic Forum describes it, the

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digital revolution that has been

occurring since the middle of the

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last century is today accompanied by

emerging technological breakthroughs

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in fields such as artificial

intelligence, robotics, the Internet

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of things, autonomous vehicles,

nanotechnology, biotechnology,

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material science, energy storage and

quantum computing. How our schools

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can equip us for this seismic shift

and our systems Social Security can

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enable us to keep society cohesive

and healthy are among the greatest

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challenges facing this generation

and the generation to come. And of

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course there is also Brexit. It has

unforeseeable changes and

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opportunities. We need an

educational system that can bear the

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weight of the changes that are

coming. We must be sure that whilst

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we might find some inspiration in

our past, we don't waste our time

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rummaging their for the solutions of

tomorrow. We must challenge the

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pockets of deprivation and

underachievement that exist across

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our communities. We must face the

poverty of aspiration which forms

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such a barrier to human flourishing.

The church of England has looked to

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promote an education that allows

children, young people and adults to

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live out Jesus's promise of life in

its fullest. To learn skills and

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develop character, and the

spiritual, intellectual and

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emotional resources needed to live a

good life, as an individual but also

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in a community. In listening to a

debate recently about science and

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innovation strategy, I was struck by

an observation made from the front

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bench. He echoed other speakers in

that extraordinarily good debate and

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said, the cultural divide that we

have had has been a disaster for

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this country since 1944 and earlier.

The truth is that the myth of a

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golden age or a disastrous misstep

are wide of the mark. The noble Lord

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went on to describe how our

universities are some of the best in

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the world for academic achievement

but where we succeed in research we

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fail in development. As the noble

Lord pointed out, Germany spends 3%

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and is aiming to spend 3.5%. We

cannot fall further behind in this

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area but it can only happen through

the effective work of education.

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We've neglected the value of further

education within our overall

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educational landscape for far too

long. Since the 19 44 education act.

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It is a legacy of the class system

especially in England. The children

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of privilege are continuing to

inherit privilege. This is true not

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only in educational institutions but

also the whole country. Unless we

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embark on cultural change, and the

entirety of our education services,

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IC is little prospect for remedying

this wrong. Human flourishing

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requires flexible and imaginative

training based in attitude. Going

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towards a more inclusive approach

with those with disabilities or

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specially educational needs is an

example of the way that

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comprehensive education has improved

and a welcome step for an education

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that seeks the fullest and most

abundant life for each human being

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regardless of their ability. One

which draws the best out of every

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person. But the academic selective

approach to education which

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prioritises separation as a

necessary precondition for the

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nurture of excellence makes a

statement about the purpose of

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education that is contrary to the

notion of the common good. At its

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best, education must be a process of

shaping human beings to reach out

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and enjoy abundant life. To do so in

such strong communities of widely

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varying ability with distinctive

approaches to each student, so that

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each around them flourish. An

approach that neglects those of

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lesser ability or does not give the

fullest opportunity to those of

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higher stability or enable all to

develop a sense of community and

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mutuality of love in action,

fullness and abundance of life, will

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ultimately fail. One of the areas

I'm most concerned about and we on

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these benches seems clearly through

the parish system and which was

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highlighted in the review into

opportunity and social integration

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is how the handing down of poverty

and deprivation between generations

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presents a barrier to achieving

social cohesion as well as

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injustice.

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All those receiving free school

meals, only 32% of girls and 28% of

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boys in the white British category

achieved five A-C grades at GCSE. --

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A*-C grades at GCSE. One might

conclude from this that white

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British children brought up in

economic poverty stand a high chance

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of being among the least well

equipped to integrate into a rapidly

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changing world where skills in

science, technology, new Morrissey,

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literacy and IT will be essential.

Not enough has been done to break

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down entrenched disadvantages or to

improve integration and cohesion.

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The church of England, with its wide

and widening schools network, can

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and must do more to address this

problem. This is the Josh Law Watson

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challenge of our generation. The aim

of the founders of the National

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Society was to be Universalist,

unapologetically Christian in the

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nature of their vocation and service

and committed to the relief of

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disadvantage and deprivation where

ever it was to be found. Ours must

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be the same. 200 years on, the role

of the church of England in

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education can be to encourage and

support excellence, provide a values

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-based education for all, with a

laser-like focus on the poorest and

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the most deprived. That means a

renewed vision that focuses as much

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an deprivation of spirit and poverty

of aspiration as did our forebears

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on material poverty and inequality.

What follows from that is a clear

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move towards schools that not only

deliver academic excellence, but

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which have the boldness and vision

to do so outside the boundaries of a

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selective system. The Church of

England's educational offer to our

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children, our nation, is church

schools that are, in its own words,

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deeply Christian, nurturing the

whole child, spiritually,

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emotionally and mentally as well as

academically, yet welcoming the

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whole community. I pay tribute to

the immense hard work of heads,

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teachers, leadership teams,

governors and parents associations,

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who make so many church and other

schools the successes that they are.

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And with the strong Christian

commitment of heads and leadership

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teams, the ethos and values of

church of England schools, which

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makes them so appealing to families

of all faiths and none, will be

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guarded and will continue. A major

obstacle, though, to our education

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system, is a lack of clear internal

and commonly held values. We live in

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a country where an overarching

story, which is the framework for

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explaining life, is more or less

disappeared. We have a world of

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unguided and competing narratives,

where the only common factor is the

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inviolability of personal choice.

That means that for schools that are

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not of a religious character,

confidence in any personal sense of

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ultimate values has diminished.

Utilitarianism rules and skills move

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from being talents held for the

common good, which we are entrusted

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with as benefits for all, to being

personal possessions for our own

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advantage. We see this already in

our universities, in the economic

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sword of Damocles that dangles over

their heads of so many students who

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have vast financial investments at

stake in their degree qualification.

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The challenge is the week, secular

and functional narrative that

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successive governments have sought

to insert in the place of our

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historic, Christian-based

understanding, whether explicitly or

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implicitly. Factionalism or

utilitarianism offers neither a

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meaningful alternative to those who

are threatened by peddlers of

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extremism, nor a confident framework

within which to educate those of

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different cultures and beliefs. It

is no great surprise to those of us

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familiar with church schools, and I

should say that all five of our

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children went to state schools, both

church and non-church, that there is

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strong, values -based approach

remained so attractive, especially

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to communities of other faiths. In

many church of England schools in

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areas of high immigration over the

last 60 years, although in some

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cases almost all the children are of

a non-Christian faith, the narrative

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of the school has remained

Christian, while respecting

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religious diversity, including no

faith at all. Schools, FC and HD

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institutions are important

intermediate institutions,

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positioned between the individuals

and the state. Which exists to bring

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fullness of life and to be nurseries

of community living. As well as

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inspire, they need to develop

stories of the common good, of

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community, not merely of tolerance.

This is achievable so long as our

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education system remains diverse in

provision is accountable and well

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funded, enabling different streams

and approaches within its overall

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ecosystem. Lifelong learning and

training and developing the prestige

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of technical education is vital for

giving us the flexibility and

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capacity necessary for the fourth

Industrial Revolution. The church of

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England has recently set up the

church of England foundation for

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educational leadership, in order to

begin to tackle the need for deeper

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and more effective training in

issues of values and practices, as

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well as in the hard skills of

leading schools and nurturing new

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leadership talent. Education must

combine the provision of skills with

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the creation of values and practices

that enable those values to be

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developed and to become virtues.

Where that happens, life in all its

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fullness becomes accessible to all

young people. It is not a magic

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wands to solve all society's

problems. But it is an essential

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building block for achieving an

education system that can help to

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build a more prosperous and cohesive

society. I beg to move the motion

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standing in my name on the order

paper.

The question is that this

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motion be agreed to.

I think we are

all greatly in the debt, once again,

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of the most Reverend Archbishop. His

words last year on British values, I

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think many of us reflected on

through the year, and so today, with

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his words about education, are

deeply important at this moment. I

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speak also as someone whose three

children and six of our

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grandchildren went to exactly the

same Church primary school, and

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warmly applaud the work of faith

schools, the work they do to create

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the citizens of tomorrow, the work

they do for the local community. 100

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years ago, my grandfather wrote a

book, Education And World

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Citizenship, working closely with

the noble Lord Judd's Father and he

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went on to start a series of

programmes called the Council for

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education and world citizenship and

this was precisely at the heart of

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the issue that education is not only

about skills, it isn't only about

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qualifications, it is about

preparing the citizens we need for

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tomorrow. Now I would argue that

over many decades, we deeply failed

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very intelligent children from

impoverished backgrounds. My early

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years were spent in Brixton,

Peckham, Bethnal Green, where

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children did not even take A-levels.

Teaching reading and writing was

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described as imposing middle-class

values on working-class children.

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There was a wonderful document

produced by the Maudsley, 15,000

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Hours, which showed that the dimmest

children, the least achieving

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children at one school were doing

better than the most able children

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were at a bad school. And Sir Keith

Joseph, my Lord Baker, many others

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in this room, in this house, worked

really hard to improve the

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curriculum, to improve the

achievements, to improve the

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teaching, and we have seen a

dramatic change in the ability of

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young people to fulfil their

potential. But it still isn't

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enough. Of course, I applaud also

the primate's words about education

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not only being functionalist but the

chief inspector of schools, a man I

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greatly admire, spoke only the other

day about the importance of not

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reducing education to functionalist

level. Our job is to young people to

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succeed in life, broadening of mind,

enriching communities, advancing

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civilisation. Now, if you come with

me to the University of Hull, and it

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wasn't going to be long before we

got there, you will see on the main

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staircase wonderful engraving with

the words of Winston Churchill,

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"Religion has been a rock in the

life and character of the British

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people upon which they have built

their hopes and cast their cares"

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people upon which they have built

their hopes and cast their cares".

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And in today's world of

multicultural, multi-faith, this is

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more complex but nobody better than

the Church of England, the words of

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the most reverend primate can lead

us forward. I speak with great pride

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of the Chancellor -- as the

Chancellor of the University of

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Hull, this is an anchor institution

in an impoverished region. The

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University believes in transforming

the individual as well as positively

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impacting society. It is placed

based, an area with low aspirations,

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with low achievement in the past but

it is globally engaged. And last

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year, I invited the primate to visit

Hull during the City of Culture. I

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don't think he was able to fulfil

that invitation but I'm delighted to

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say that two weeks ago, the Queen

came... LAUGHTER

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To open the new medical school and

meet all those involved in the City

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of Culture. And I say that as the

news that has come through that

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Coventry is to be the next City of

Culture, and I know the primate has

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very close connections with

Coventry. But the ability to give

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people hope and optimism and a sense

of collaboration is quite

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remarkable. The University of Hull

trains doctors and nurses in a

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modern, patient -based, community

focused manner. It has

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entrepreneurial activities. It has

pioneered environmental, maritime,

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renewable energy projects, bringing

prosperity, skills, investment and

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success. And the City of Culture has

given inspiration, encouragement and

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energy to the city and to the

individuals who live there. They

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have got a leading department on

modern slavery. Last year, Kofi

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Anand came to speak. Their campaign,

hidden in plain sight, tackles the

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current situation of modern slavery,

focused on by the Prime Minister. It

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is placed based, it is globally

engaged and it is modern -- a model

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to so many. The right reverend, the

primate, reminded us of the

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importance of teachers, of

headteachers. The headteacher is the

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closest thing to a magic wand in

education and I applaud all those

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new routes into education, like

teach first, teach now, and all the

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many other ways. There is no more

important obligation than preparing

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the next generation. When the house

starts in another place, the prayer

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is that we shall govern wisely and

avoid love of power and desire to

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please. Now, research, innovation,

the fourth Industrial Revolution,

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all the great achievements of our

universities are important but if we

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don't have the wisdom, the judgment,

the moral basis to make decisions,

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we will be lost and at a time when

democracy is fuelled by social

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media, by sound bites, by the

short-term, it is all the more

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important that we retain a moral

compass, a faith -based approach,

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and the principles of citizenship.

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It gives me great pleasure to speak

of this moment in this debate as to

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thank the Archbishop of Canterbury

for creating this possibility of all

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of us to look at this important

sector and aspect of our life. We

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must content ourselves with a cameo

contribution and do our best here

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and there but together I'm sure we

will have a multifaceted look at

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this vital subject. May I express my

delight at the presence in the

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chamber of our noble friend, the

second coming of the noble Lord

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charters, here in this house. I look

forward to his speech. We have

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collaborated together for 20 years

in London. Here we are discussing

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this vital subject. It is at the

heart of all other activities that

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we seek to envisage and build. I've

been a school governor for over 35

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years. In Laurel, suburban, and

inner-city sects without hands to

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specialise. I was a member of the

board of Roehampton University and

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I'm currently the chair of trustees.

I have that vantage point from which

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to speak today. We have two

remarkable schools, one for boys and

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one for girls.

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I have read countless articles, and

they will come to the same

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conclusion.

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We are worthy of the name. It

embraces the spiritual, moral and

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intellectual development of young

people. I would add adults to that

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since education, in my view, is a

lifelong affair. The catholic spirit

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of this definition is surely

self-evident. We would wonder about

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the need to have a debate of this

kind at all since we have such a

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common platform to stand on. And

yet, it is more complicated. I've

0:26:580:27:12

received a letter from a leading

British composer, complaining about

0:27:120:27:15

the narrowly defined curriculum of

the English baccalaureate. It

0:27:150:27:24

concentrates on subjects in a way

that makes it virtually impossible

0:27:240:27:27

for schools to give their proper

attention to the creative arts at

0:27:270:27:34

the spiritual subjects, to say

nothing of personal health and other

0:27:340:27:38

related topics. Asking whether

pressure cannot be put on those to

0:27:380:27:46

make a more flexible view. We could

actually welcome as an essential

0:27:460:27:55

part of education, these creative

and spiritual subjects. And that is

0:27:550:28:05

not just him writing to me in this

way. Schools, at the same time as

0:28:050:28:10

having to deal with the curriculum,

are also dealing with constraints on

0:28:100:28:17

their budget. There are extra costs

they've got to absorb and the

0:28:170:28:22

schools with which I'm involved face

the need to increase productivity

0:28:220:28:28

and cut what is being delivered. Two

teachers a year for the next three

0:28:280:28:38

years. We may well agree without any

hesitation on the definition but the

0:28:380:28:44

practicalities on the ground work

against our being able to make that

0:28:440:28:50

real for our children. In the

briefing paper, there is a

0:28:500:28:56

frequently occurring word, the word

character. The method is just to do

0:28:560:29:01

a bit of Bible study. The word

character, a Greek word, appears

0:29:010:29:09

once in the new Testament. And they

all know where it appears. I can see

0:29:090:29:15

it on their faces. It is in the

Epistle to the Hebrews. It takes a

0:29:150:29:25

layperson to say of course, of

course. But character in the new

0:29:250:29:29

Testament sense is an attempt to

describe the divinity of Christ.

0:29:290:29:34

This is not a lesson in Christology

but an attempt to show that Christ

0:29:340:29:39

was imbued with everything that God

was. He is stamped with the

0:29:390:29:46

character of God. His personality

exudes everything that can be said

0:29:460:29:54

about God. I realise there are

others for whom that particular part

0:29:540:29:59

of my presentation will resonate but

I draw from it the need in our

0:29:590:30:02

educational system to stamp all

those under education with

0:30:020:30:08

everything that is good, the values

alluded to which so they can be not

0:30:080:30:16

just empty vessels receiving

knowledge, cognitive, facts and

0:30:160:30:23

skills in those objective censors

but be brought alive to become the

0:30:230:30:27

people they were made to be. To have

brought from them what is intrinsic

0:30:270:30:31

to them, and character in that sense

seems to be eminently worthwhile.

0:30:310:30:40

Here ends the lesson but the real

world in which we practice, for the

0:30:400:30:56

boys, knife crime, drugs, violence

on the streets, 11 over children

0:30:560:31:04

witnessing claims on the streets,

one boy accused, found guilty of

0:31:040:31:08

murder. A school that passed to

incorporate those dimensions. 85% of

0:31:080:31:20

our girls are Muslims. It needs to

be applied with imagination and

0:31:200:31:31

flair, not simply in an espionage

kind of way. I want the government

0:31:310:31:35

to reassure us that a lot of what

could be accommodated could be made

0:31:350:31:42

mandatory, that we look again at the

prevent programme and we look to

0:31:420:31:57

flourish alongside the core subjects

as mentioned in the original

0:31:570:32:07

definition which I quoted.

I join in

thanking this. Education is not only

0:32:070:32:19

essential in building a skilful

society but also in maintaining it.

0:32:190:32:26

Increasingly there is an economic

and social imperative for lifelong

0:32:260:32:29

learning. Education has a role that

should engender a love of learning.

0:32:290:32:41

Education starts in the home. We've

all seen the joy on the face of a

0:32:410:32:46

young child who takes its first step

and recite its first nursery rhyme.

0:32:460:32:53

That's the sort of satisfaction

education should continue to

0:32:530:32:55

generate, building confidence and

aspiration. Sadly it is not always

0:32:550:33:02

the productive experience but it

could and should be. The Church of

0:33:020:33:06

England plays a key part in

education at all levels but

0:33:060:33:09

particularly at primary level. Those

schools are sought after by those of

0:33:090:33:16

all faith and none. They have an

ethos that makes for a good start

0:33:160:33:24

for young people and plays its part

in fighting embedded squalor. The

0:33:240:33:28

government should ensure that this

love of learning continues but too

0:33:280:33:33

often, Curiosity and enthusiasm are

trumped by testing and assessment,

0:33:330:33:39

with children measured not by where

their interests lie but academic

0:33:390:33:44

measures. I've asked ministers

before and not got a satisfactory

0:33:440:33:51

answer what important is the

government gives to love and

0:33:510:33:56

learning of fun, and stimulating

ideas and aspiration in the young,

0:33:560:34:01

particularly those who prefer doing

and making to thinking and studying.

0:34:010:34:05

Constant assessment plays havoc with

building skills and knowledge and

0:34:050:34:11

generates fear of failure in the

very young. If education becomes

0:34:110:34:15

associated with hopelessness it

becomes increasingly challenging to

0:34:150:34:18

build-up self-respect and

aspiration. I built up skills in

0:34:180:34:27

Germany and I know only too well the

difficulty of capturing the slowest.

0:34:270:34:36

It can be captivating but it is hard

work. Enthusiasm for learning can be

0:34:360:34:42

generated in the most unlikely

people if they can see a purpose and

0:34:420:34:46

practical pathway so they can be

achievers. They are I ask the

0:34:460:34:54

Minister to impress on colleagues

this. If young people are intrigued

0:34:540:35:04

by cars, cooking, by care, they will

see a purpose in learning and

0:35:040:35:11

engagement in a practical subject

can be bent to grasping their

0:35:110:35:13

academic counterparts. It can

clarify the purpose of maths when

0:35:130:35:20

maths lessons have been impenetrable

previously. Schools encourage

0:35:200:35:26

learning of all sorts but are often

held back by oft changing government

0:35:260:35:34

ministers, the remorseless churn of

government. It is pernicious but

0:35:340:35:38

secretaries of state implement their

own bright ideas, regardless of the

0:35:380:35:46

impact on teachers. Can the minister

persuade his colleagues to hold fire

0:35:460:35:50

and consult and undertake constant

benefit analysis for changes which

0:35:500:35:57

are politically driven and have

little to do with helping young

0:35:570:36:05

people. What steps is the government

taking to incentivise schools over

0:36:050:36:10

promoting apprenticeships and other

skills by celebrating pupils who

0:36:100:36:15

achieve in those areas? League

tables lead to challenging

0:36:150:36:27

situations even when skills are

practical and work -based. We need

0:36:270:36:32

people with practical skills. I

recall years ago writing a

0:36:320:36:40

pretentious A level essay on Adam

Smith's court. This was before

0:36:400:36:46

political correctness, when man was

deemed to embrace woman. I think

0:36:460:36:50

that is how the Romans put it. But

education should be lifelong. There

0:36:500:36:56

is such an important part to play

for adult education. The overall

0:36:560:37:04

number of students from lower

participation areas has fallen by

0:37:040:37:08

15% and whilst figures for full-time

students have risen, there has been

0:37:080:37:13

a simultaneous 40% fall in students

from those same areas. There are no

0:37:130:37:19

fewer people from disadvantaged

backgrounds going to university.

0:37:190:37:26

Skills budget has been reduced. Gone

are so many of those life enhancing

0:37:260:37:30

evening classes which could broaden

minds and promote aspiration in a

0:37:300:37:35

wider variety of ways, leading to

the flourishing of the skills

0:37:350:37:38

society. It is well proven that it

brings greater benefits to family

0:37:380:37:48

and community life. Further

education colleges are essential to

0:37:480:37:54

this progress with valuable

contributions from great

0:37:540:37:59

institutions such as the open

University and Birkbeck College.

0:37:590:38:01

These services provide enable adults

to fulfil potential and contribute

0:38:010:38:06

to the economy but all of them are

concerned about funding, Wanna fight

0:38:060:38:10

teachers, uncertainty for the future

to plan their work to full benefit.

0:38:100:38:16

Part-time learners have been heavily

hit in changes to funding and

0:38:160:38:19

colleges have struggled to keep up

staffing numbers. I hope the

0:38:190:38:24

government will listen to all those

and provide more reliable funding

0:38:240:38:33

for the prosperity of the country. I

look forward to the other speakers

0:38:330:38:39

and I thank the Archbishop for the

opportunity to do this debate.

0:38:390:38:46

My Lords, I 2am grateful to the most

reverend primate for initiating this

0:38:460:38:50

debate on a subject vital to the

future flourishing of our children

0:38:500:38:55

and grandchildren. My Lords, allow

me to speak personally as a,

0:38:550:39:05

something about this debate moves me

greatly and go to the heart of this

0:39:050:39:10

debate, Moses assemble the

Israelites on the brink of the

0:39:100:39:13

Exodus, he did not talk about the

Long walk to Freedom, he did not

0:39:130:39:16

speak about the land flowing with

milk and honey. Instead, repeatedly,

0:39:160:39:21

he turned to the far horizon of the

future and spoke about the duty of

0:39:210:39:25

parents to educate their children.

He did it again at the end of his

0:39:250:39:30

life, in the famous words, "You

shall teach these things repeatedly

0:39:300:39:34

to your children, speaking of them

when you sit in your house, when you

0:39:340:39:39

walk on the way, when you lie down

and when you rise up". By this

0:39:390:39:46

session with education that has

stayed with us from this day to

0:39:460:39:50

this? -- why that obsession. Because

to defend the country, you need an

0:39:500:39:55

army, but to defend a civilisation,

you need schools. You need education

0:39:550:40:00

as the conversation between the

generations. Whatever the society,

0:40:000:40:06

the culture or the faith, we need to

teach our children and they bear is

0:40:060:40:10

what we aspire to, and the ideals we

were bequeathed by those who came

0:40:100:40:15

before us. We need to teach them the

story of which we and they are apart

0:40:150:40:20

and we need to trust them to go

further than we did when they come

0:40:200:40:25

to write their own chapter. We make

a grave mistake if we think of

0:40:250:40:32

education only in terms of knowledge

and skills, what the American writer

0:40:320:40:35

David Brooks calls the resume

virtues, as opposed to the eulogy

0:40:350:40:41

virtues. And this is not woolly

idealism. It is hard-headed

0:40:410:40:47

pragmatism. Never has the world

change so fast and it is getting

0:40:470:40:51

faster every year. We have no idea

what patterns of employment will

0:40:510:40:55

look like in two, let alone 20 years

from now, what skills will be valued

0:40:550:41:01

and which done instead by

artificially intelligent,

0:41:010:41:07

preternaturally polite robots. We

need to give our children and

0:41:070:41:15

internalised moral satellite

navigation system so that they can

0:41:150:41:17

find their way across the

undiscovered country called the

0:41:170:41:22

future. We need to give them the

strongest possible sense of

0:41:220:41:26

collective responsibility for the

common good because we don't know

0:41:260:41:30

who will be the winners and losers

in the lottery of the global economy

0:41:300:41:34

and we need to make sure its

blessings are shared. There's too

0:41:340:41:43

much I and too little we in our

culture and we need to teach our job

0:41:430:41:47

and to care for others, especially

for those not like us. We work for

0:41:470:41:52

all these things in our Jewish

schools. We give our children

0:41:520:41:55

confidence in who they are so they

can handle change without fear and

0:41:550:41:59

keep learning through a lifetime. We

teach them to be not just proud Jews

0:41:590:42:07

but proud to be English, British,

defenders of democratic freedom and

0:42:070:42:12

active citizens, helping those in

need. Schools are about more than

0:42:120:42:16

what we know and what we can do.

They are about who we are and what

0:42:160:42:21

we must do to help others become

what they might be. The world our

0:42:210:42:27

children will inherit tomorrow is

born in the schools we built today.

0:42:270:42:36

My Lords, I do thank the most

reverend primate for this important

0:42:370:42:42

debate on education. I remind your

Lordships of my registered interest

0:42:420:42:46

as chairman of the chartered

institution for further education. I

0:42:460:42:50

was particularly pleased to see the

Archbishop's choice of words, a

0:42:500:42:56

flourishing and skilled society and

it is about the provision of those

0:42:560:42:58

skills that I want to make just a

couple of points this morning. For

0:42:580:43:03

many, many years, colleges of

further education in this country

0:43:030:43:07

have had a strong tradition of

developing technical skills and

0:43:070:43:10

working alongside employers. The

outstanding Dudley College, for

0:43:100:43:17

instance, has its roots in the 1862

Dudley Public Mechanics Institute

0:43:170:43:24

and there are many, many more with

equally venerable origins, just as

0:43:240:43:28

the Archbishop has reminded us, the

church schools have. However,

0:43:280:43:33

successive governments have seen

their most important task for young

0:43:330:43:37

people as pushing them towards

university entrance. Consequently,

0:43:370:43:43

fewer young adults and their parents

have come to view further education

0:43:430:43:47

colleges as providing a viable and

creditable vocational and

0:43:470:43:53

educational paths. The prestige of

the FE sector is therefore declined,

0:43:530:43:57

being often considered as a

second-tier alternative to those who

0:43:570:44:02

did not do too well at school and

this is at complete odds with the

0:44:020:44:09

valuable work that, as Lady Gardner

reminded us, it does, and the

0:44:090:44:14

opportunities it creates for its

students, for business and the

0:44:140:44:16

economy of the country.

Concomitantly, the FE sector has

0:44:160:44:23

progressively had its remit altered

through changes in government

0:44:230:44:25

policy. I have mentioned to your

Lordships before the fact that the

0:44:250:44:30

sector's main mission, which should

be the provision of high-quality

0:44:300:44:32

technical skills, has been too often

distorted by its having to teach

0:44:320:44:40

what our kindergarten competencies

to teenagers who have been most

0:44:400:44:44

seriously failed by primary schools,

which have neglected to teach them

0:44:440:44:49

literacy and numeracy properly. Of

the 2014 students transferring from

0:44:490:44:54

schools to FE at 16, some 28% were

functionally numerate. That is,

0:44:540:45:01

their arithmetical abilities were

those normally associated with an

0:45:010:45:06

eight-year-old, and some 15% were

functionally illiterate by the same

0:45:060:45:08

criteria. For several years, it has

been the accession of government

0:45:080:45:13

that too few of these students at 16

have passed GCSE English and maths

0:45:130:45:17

at grade C level. Ministers are

right to be concerned that secondary

0:45:170:45:24

schools, like their primary

counterparts, are failing these

0:45:240:45:27

young people, but they are wrong to

insist that further education

0:45:270:45:31

colleges should be the places where

the pieces are picked up. This is

0:45:310:45:37

not a task which should skew the

vocational mission of further

0:45:370:45:41

education. Often, the largest

departments, my Lords, in colleges,

0:45:410:45:46

are now those devoted to fulfilling

the government's corrective of

0:45:460:45:49

getting students from D to C grades

in GCSE. The largest departments

0:45:490:45:58

should, my Lords, be devoted to

engineering and the technologies and

0:45:580:46:01

not to school resits. For these

students, passing GCSE at grade C in

0:46:010:46:07

English and maths when they have had

a history of bad teaching and

0:46:070:46:10

failure in these subjects at school,

is often inappropriate and difficult

0:46:100:46:14

and the success rates are very poor,

especially for those with free

0:46:140:46:19

school meals entitlement. In some

areas, such as wielded in East

0:46:190:46:24

Sussex, where a forest, Maldon and

Ashworth, fewer than 4% of students

0:46:240:46:30

with a C in English and maths at the

age of 16 went on to achieve this by

0:46:300:46:35

the end of 19. The average success

rate seems to be around 25%. Instead

0:46:350:46:42

of these resits, these students

should be allowed to prepare for

0:46:420:46:46

vocationally oriented tests of

literacy and numeracy, which will

0:46:460:46:49

seemed to them more relevant to

their lives and future work. The

0:46:490:46:55

government has talked about an

alleviation in the current

0:46:550:46:58

requirements and perhaps the

Minister, when he closes, will let

0:46:580:47:01

us know when this is to happen. My

second point is this, an article a

0:47:010:47:06

few weeks ago in the Times

educational supplement showed that

0:47:060:47:10

the average funds available per

student aged 11-16 in secondary

0:47:100:47:18

schools is £5,700 per annum. At

universities, it is £8,500, whereas

0:47:180:47:24

for providers of further education,

from ages 16-19, it is only 4500.

0:47:240:47:32

This disparity is very worrying and

suggests that the FE sector is

0:47:320:47:36

insufficiently funded to deal with

the challenges that it faces at a

0:47:360:47:41

time when skills development is at

the heart of the economic agenda.

0:47:410:47:46

Perhaps the Minister would comment

on the worrying £1200 yearly gap

0:47:460:47:51

between school and further education

funding. Productivity levels in the

0:47:510:47:57

UK remains stubbornly low and have

not improved in real terms since the

0:47:570:48:04

2008 economic downturn. We are

currently ranked 16 out of 35 OECD

0:48:040:48:13

countries in the international

productivity league tables, way

0:48:130:48:18

behind our major trading partners

such as the United States, France

0:48:180:48:21

and Germany. Productivity is of

course a factor of investment but it

0:48:210:48:30

is also, most importantly, a factor

of the training of young people in

0:48:300:48:33

technical skills. And yet, the

economic affairs select committee of

0:48:330:48:39

this house identifies this country's

Lower emphasis on technical and

0:48:390:48:46

vocational education "As a major

contributing factor towards low

0:48:460:48:50

productivity"

0:48:500:48:51

contributing factor towards low

productivity". As the Archbishop

0:48:510:48:53

reminded us, Brexit will bring great

opportunities and our workforce must

0:48:530:48:58

be well prepared to use them. To

conclude, the further education

0:48:580:49:02

sector in this country must be

better resourced and better used by

0:49:020:49:07

government policy if it is to help

this country faced the economic

0:49:070:49:12

challenges that the next decade will

surely bring.

My Lords, anyone with

0:49:120:49:18

their wits about them realise is

that we are in the grip of a social

0:49:180:49:23

crisis. Half or more of the country

have been left behind while the rest

0:49:230:49:26

of Britain went to university,

modernised and globalised and this

0:49:260:49:30

isn't just about individuals and

families but communities, even whole

0:49:300:49:34

towns and cities. The

ultra-respectable financial Times

0:49:340:49:38

last month carried a heart-rending

article by Sarah oh Conor, who had

0:49:380:49:43

immersed herself in Blackpool and

reported on what GPs there called

0:49:430:49:51

SLS, deep poverty, pervasive drugs,

obesity and antidepressant and

0:49:510:49:54

mental illness in a large, isolated

town, exhibiting alarming signs of

0:49:540:50:02

disintegration, including the

largest encampment in Britain of

0:50:020:50:05

children expelled from school. It is

euphemistically called a pupil

0:50:050:50:11

referral unit. Even more

euphemistically, it is run by an

0:50:110:50:13

organisation called educational

diversity but it is basically a

0:50:130:50:18

dumping ground for 330 children that

schools want nothing to do with.

0:50:180:50:24

That is 330, my Lords, expelled from

schools in one northern town and

0:50:240:50:29

sent to what is in many respects a

joint training camp for the criminal

0:50:290:50:32

justice system. -- a giant training

camp. In addition to hundreds

0:50:320:50:39

excluded from school day by day for

lower-level misbehaviour or simply

0:50:390:50:42

roam the streets. Now those of your

Lordships to have the misfortune to

0:50:420:50:46

attend party conferences know why we

stopped going to Blackpool. But for

0:50:460:50:51

Blackpool today, we'd also Hull,

Grimsby, large parts of the North

0:50:510:50:55

and the Midlands, and large towns in

the South including Hastings, Dover

0:50:550:51:00

and Folkestone. My Lords, poor

education is at the heart of the

0:51:000:51:05

social crisis. Schools and secondary

schools in particular are too often

0:51:050:51:10

bleak and low performing in

virtually all of the communities I

0:51:100:51:13

just mentioned. There are not nearly

enough good teachers. Apprenticeship

0:51:130:51:18

numbers, incredibly, are declining,

despite the apprenticeship levy. The

0:51:180:51:22

Private schools have separated

themselves ever more from mainstream

0:51:220:51:26

society. Only yesterday, Westminster

School, a wholly owned charitable

0:51:260:51:31

subsidiary of the Church of England,

which occupies fabulous charitable

0:51:310:51:35

premises adjoining Westminster

Abbey, announced it was setting up

0:51:350:51:38

six elite schools in China. Its

social average idols, should be to

0:51:380:51:43

the poor of Bradford, not the

super-rich of Beijing. -- social

0:51:430:51:47

outreach goals. We are racked by

controversy over sky-high student

0:51:470:51:53

fees and debts run by vice

chancellors who have become

0:51:530:51:55

latter-day Prince Bishops, paid up

to £500,000 per year and likening

0:51:550:52:00

themselves to Maradona and Richard

Branson. My Lords, I don't have time

0:52:000:52:03

to offer more analysis but let me

get straight to the six things which

0:52:030:52:06

I believe now need to happen as a

matter of urgency. First, the Prime

0:52:060:52:11

Minister should appoint a minister

for good schools, based in Blackpool

0:52:110:52:15

or Grimsby, with direct

responsibility and funding for

0:52:150:52:20

school improvements in areas of very

low educational standards. The

0:52:200:52:24

government's policy at the moment...

It has published a list of so-called

0:52:240:52:31

opportunity areas, which include

Blackpool but there are only 12

0:52:310:52:34

across the entire country. Nothing

much is happening on the ground and

0:52:340:52:39

even in those 12, the department's

website can't do much better than

0:52:390:52:42

saying that they received"

prioritise access to a support

0:52:420:52:47

package"

0:52:470:52:48

prioritise access to a support

package". When I was minister for

0:52:480:52:50

schools a decade ago, I was

specifically Minister for London

0:52:500:52:53

schools as well and with the

inspirational Tim Brickhouse, led a

0:52:530:52:56

team to radically improve schools in

the capital, including extensive

0:52:560:53:01

funding and planning powers. I

reproach myself not persuading Tony

0:53:010:53:05

Blair and Gordon Brown to the same

intensive place -based approach to

0:53:050:53:09

other parts of the country, where

school standards were and still are,

0:53:090:53:13

my Lords, deplorably low and this

now needs to be done. I sent in our

0:53:130:53:20

new minister a man of action and I

am sure he will be a highly

0:53:200:53:24

effective minister at mobilising the

considerable resources of Her

0:53:240:53:28

Majesty's government from Blackpool

or Grimsby. Secondly, my Lords, we

0:53:280:53:32

have got to tackle the council

school expulsions which is such an

0:53:320:53:35

important cause of young lives going

completely off the rails. This is a

0:53:350:53:39

difficult issue but after much

consideration, I've come to the

0:53:390:53:43

conclusion that the right course is

to forbid schools from expelling

0:53:430:53:47

pupils will even temporarily

excluding them unless they have

0:53:470:53:52

broken the law. Instead, schools

should be required to make

0:53:520:53:56

appropriate on-site provision for

disruptive pupils even if they can't

0:53:560:54:02

always be mainstream classrooms and

they should be given extra funding

0:54:020:54:04

to do so.

0:54:040:54:06

Within a short period the government

should require every civil

0:54:140:54:19

organisation including the NHS and

local authorities to recruit, among

0:54:190:54:23

new trainees, at least as many

apprentices as graduates. Across the

0:54:230:54:27

public and private sectors the new

apprenticeship levy should be tied

0:54:270:54:31

by the state. I would suggest to the

prey Minister that the government

0:54:310:54:39

immediately grant this power to the

highly capable mayor of the west

0:54:390:54:46

Midlands. They should ask him to

report within a year on the national

0:54:460:54:51

system for deploying the projected

£3 billion income from the

0:54:510:54:55

apprenticeship levy to transform

apprenticeship levy is an quality

0:54:550:55:01

nationwide. After decades with

government after government has

0:55:010:55:04

urged private schools to behave like

the charities they legally are, but

0:55:040:55:07

see nothing happened yawned

tinkering at the edges, I believe we

0:55:070:55:12

need bold action. The easiest way is

to tax private school fees. An

0:55:120:55:21

education opportunity tax would

raise two and a half billion pounds.

0:55:210:55:28

This could be used to boost teacher

pay in hard to reach areas, the

0:55:280:55:39

absolutely indispensable passport to

skilled work and learning and fund

0:55:390:55:45

free music and sport training across

state schools, which private schools

0:55:450:55:54

pupils and parents take granted. The

right thing to do is cancel the

0:55:540:55:58

trebling of tuition fees which took

place in 2010 and reduce them to

0:55:580:56:03

around £3000. Reduce the

extortionate interest rate the

0:56:030:56:08

government is charging on debt and

cancel the absurd controls on

0:56:080:56:12

overseas student numbers which hold

universities back from competing

0:56:120:56:14

internationally. On the scandal of

senior university pay,

0:56:140:56:23

self-regulation is clearly not

working and the one regulators of

0:56:230:56:28

the state are toothless, dominated

by the vice chancellors they should

0:56:280:56:35

be regulating. The best course is an

independent enquiry to recommend

0:56:350:56:40

limits to top pay in universities

and ensure better controls. I cannot

0:56:400:56:46

think of anyone better suited to

conduct it than the most Reverend

0:56:460:56:51

primate. He runs an organisation

much like a university. He lives in

0:56:510:56:58

a palace. Since the Almighty seems

to be the only higher power

0:56:580:57:09

recognised he is as well-suited to

sort that. My hero was David

0:57:090:57:17

Shepherd of Liverpool. Back in the

1980s, social disintegration was

0:57:170:57:26

advancing upon us. It is again today

and we cannot walk by on the other

0:57:260:57:32

side.

I am very grateful to the most

Reverend primate for introducing

0:57:320:57:42

this debate which signalled the

coming of Christmas and can I also

0:57:420:57:51

say what a pleasure it is to see

Lord charters in his debate and

0:57:510:57:58

speaking in this place. I declare an

interest and you will see why in a

0:57:580:58:04

moment. As former chief executive of

the Kings fund. I'm also currently

0:58:040:58:16

vice-chair of the Mental Health Act

committee. I want to address what

0:58:160:58:21

the most Reverend primate has

described as human flourishing and I

0:58:210:58:26

would describe as the emotional

well-being of children. I would like

0:58:260:58:30

to congratulate the government on

the report that mental health

0:58:300:58:34

training will be available in

schools but would like to ask why

0:58:340:58:38

that date cannot be brought forward

given that we know how serious the

0:58:380:58:43

issues are around the mental health

and well-being of young people. That

0:58:430:58:47

has been alluded to. We know that

over half of mental ill-health

0:58:470:59:01

starts before the age of and 75% of

it has developed by the age of 18.

0:59:010:59:08

Studies suggest that when problems

are not addressed early there is

0:59:080:59:13

often a lifelong trajectory of

mental ill health. Rates of

0:59:130:59:20

depression have increased by 70%

over the last 25 years and that

0:59:200:59:23

places huge costs on the economy,

let alone on individuals. We know

0:59:230:59:28

that supporting mental health in

schools is not just about responding

0:59:280:59:33

to side of emerging mental health

problems. We now know helping

0:59:330:59:42

children become emotionally literate

as a vital part of any focus and

0:59:420:59:47

needs to be part of how we think

about education. You shall teach

0:59:470:59:52

your children and they shall teach

there is. In a recent report on

0:59:520:59:59

school readiness, school leaders

noted a decline with concerns about

0:59:591:00:08

personal, social and emotional

development high on the list. If

1:00:081:00:15

children are already starting at a

disadvantage and are unable to catch

1:00:151:00:18

up this increases their

vulnerability in terms of their

1:00:181:00:22

emotional well-being and their

potential to achieve and succeed. A

1:00:221:00:26

lack of social awareness to regulate

emotions underpins many of the

1:00:261:00:32

behavioural problems we see in

schools and studies have indicated a

1:00:321:00:37

link between better outcomes. We now

we need to do more and emotional

1:00:371:00:50

literacy needs to be embedded in

approaches. Over the years there

1:00:501:00:57

have been a range of interventions.

There is not a statutory requirement

1:00:571:01:08

in state schools. I hope to persuade

the Reverend primer that we should

1:01:081:01:14

have multi-faith schools, but many

state schools do not do it yet we

1:01:141:01:22

know that it works well. It also

makes a huge difference as part of

1:01:221:01:31

the approach. I am indebted to the

place to be, a voluntary

1:01:311:01:45

organisation that provides support,

for the education they have given

1:01:451:01:49

me. This approach involves not only

teaching children about the nature

1:01:491:01:59

of emotional states in themselves

and others but also promoting social

1:01:591:02:05

competence and well-being. There's

been a good deal of research

1:02:051:02:08

evaluation on how to do this. In the

United States, Scandinavia,

1:02:081:02:13

Australia and New Zealand. But less

in the UK. A review several years

1:02:131:02:20

ago concluded the most positive

evidence was obtained for programmes

1:02:201:02:24

that adopted a whole school

approach, aimed at the promotion of

1:02:241:02:31

mental health as opposed to the

prevention of mental illness. Can

1:02:311:02:35

the Minister tell this house whether

this is the approach that the mental

1:02:351:02:43

health support announced is going to

take and can you tell us he supports

1:02:431:02:50

investing in a curriculum that

values emotional understanding,

1:02:501:02:55

communication and problem-solving

with regular and well delivered

1:02:551:02:58

lessons addressing emotional

awareness and understanding. Of

1:02:581:03:02

course, we need teachers, school

league leaders and governors to

1:03:021:03:08

promote a healthy school and I pay

tribute. I am the mother of a

1:03:081:03:16

teacher. We need them to foster warm

relationships, peach autonomy and

1:03:161:03:20

maintain clarity. We need them to

prevent bullying and identify those

1:03:201:03:28

with problems early. Government and

educational leaders need to give a

1:03:281:03:35

steer in this direction. I hope the

Lord and Minister will be able to

1:03:351:03:39

tell this post that this is the

approach both governments approach

1:03:391:03:41

and will foster. And that emotional

literacy and education is part of

1:03:411:03:48

what is needed to be provided. I

begin by declaring my interest as a

1:03:481:04:01

patron of marriage foundation and

former governor of 21 years of

1:04:011:04:04

experience.

I'm privileged to follow

my colleague, whose sentiments I

1:04:041:04:11

share. The marriage foundation found

that family breakdown is the biggest

1:04:111:04:17

factor behind the UK's mental health

crisis and more than a third of

1:04:171:04:23

children reported bad mental health

with only a fifth with parents who

1:04:231:04:30

are still together. Only half of

today's teenagers will marry but

1:04:301:04:37

lots more will aspire to it. The

report found children with married

1:04:371:04:50

parents had reduced rates of mental

health problems. The marriage

1:04:501:04:56

foundation's research has found a

child born today in the UK is only a

1:04:561:05:01

50-50 chance of being with both

their parents by the age of 15. They

1:05:011:05:10

are more likely to have a smartphone

than a father at home. This think

1:05:101:05:15

tank commented that mental health

problems during childhood cast a

1:05:151:05:22

long shadow over future life chances

affecting work, relationships and

1:05:221:05:28

well-being into adult food. Children

need two parents committed to each

1:05:281:05:34

other in a stable relationship. The

marriage foundation believes early

1:05:341:05:40

intervention means encouraging

couples to make a clear commitment

1:05:401:05:42

to their future together before

having children. This, they believe,

1:05:421:05:47

is the very best way to give their

future children the best possible

1:05:471:05:52

chance of a happy and healthy

upbringing which, of course, has an

1:05:521:05:57

enormous benefit to society. I would

go even further. I believe to be

1:05:571:06:03

genuinely effective, early

intervention means equipping

1:06:031:06:10

children, with sufficient knowledge

and understanding of two crucial

1:06:101:06:16

points. The first is the importance

of making a commitment to a partner

1:06:161:06:20

before this phrasing is decided, and

working on the relationship. I've

1:06:201:06:31

seen, first-hand, whilst practising

as a divorce lawyer over four

1:06:311:06:37

decades, the family breakdown of

children. I've worked in the Law

1:06:371:06:47

Centre and private practice. Marital

breakdown is classless and

1:06:471:06:53

faithless. The effect on many

children is just devastating. It is

1:06:531:07:02

all too common crime romp the many

diverse people I've represented that

1:07:021:07:06

the marriage breakdown was the

result of simply marrying the wrong

1:07:061:07:20

person, someone with whom they were

fundamentally incompatible from the

1:07:201:07:23

outset. Putting on my school

governors that I looked into what

1:07:231:07:31

schools do to educate children about

the most important decision they are

1:07:311:07:35

ever going to make. Choosing a life

partner and raising a family. It

1:07:351:07:45

plays a vital role in the national

curriculum. School teaching tend to

1:07:451:07:50

specialise in the dangers of drug

and alcohol abuse. Sex education and

1:07:501:07:54

career advancement. They are

obviously very important. There

1:07:541:08:03

seems to be an enormous vacuum, even

in the private sector, and a real

1:08:031:08:10

lost opportunity for education

tomorrow's parents about

1:08:101:08:16

relationships. This is important for

children. They have nothing to

1:08:161:08:24

emulate and no domestic print to

encourage them. The endemic pattern

1:08:241:08:33

of family breakdown must be broken.

A child born in the UK only has a

1:08:331:08:38

50-50 chance of being with both

their parents by the age of 15.

1:08:381:08:47

I believe early intervention is the

best. Educating our school-aged

1:08:471:08:52

children in an attempt to cure this

and emotional illiteracy is the best

1:08:521:08:55

way to equip them to help them make

a wise or at least informed life

1:08:551:09:01

partner choice on how to work on

staying together afterwards. The

1:09:011:09:06

RSPCA has been sending out its

seasonal message. For more than 35

1:09:061:09:14

years, a dog is for life, and not

just for Christmas. And yet there is

1:09:141:09:20

no such compelling message relating

to the commitment of marriage. In

1:09:201:09:26

this context, I have sponsored a

three-year research project at the

1:09:261:09:30

University of Exeter where both my

husband and I attended, to try and

1:09:301:09:34

discover what lessons can be learned

by children in a school context

1:09:341:09:39

about relationships. For example,

what makes a good marriage, and what

1:09:391:09:44

is likely to make a bad one. This

has been done with a view to

1:09:441:09:48

providing material by video or a nap

to be introduced into the national

1:09:481:09:55

school curriculum. I urge the

Government to seriously consider the

1:09:551:09:57

benefits of introducing such advice

in its structure, as a mandatory

1:09:571:10:01

part of a child's education, to be

rolled out nationwide. If this can

1:10:011:10:06

encourage some of our country's

future parents to avoid disastrous

1:10:061:10:11

and unhappy unions with fallout for

their children, it will be money

1:10:111:10:16

well spent. It is my humble view

that prevention is always better

1:10:161:10:20

than here, and to bring what is what

happens when is fallout is inferior

1:10:201:10:26

to making a truly well-informed and

educated decision in the first

1:10:261:10:29

place. It is my dream that through

this particular piece of education,

1:10:291:10:33

a contribution will be made to a

flourishing and skilled society. I

1:10:331:10:41

would like to conclude by thanking

the most Reverend Archbishop of

1:10:411:10:43

Canterbury, for bringing about this

debate, to enable a light to be

1:10:431:10:47

shone in this neglected and

unfashionable area of social policy.

1:10:471:10:55

My Lords, I have spent much of my

life in public speaking in the

1:10:551:10:58

context of universities, and if you

are lucky or you did a good job, the

1:10:581:11:04

students would look up to you like

that. Just recently, it has all

1:11:041:11:10

changed. You look at a lecture

audience now, half the audience are

1:11:101:11:15

looking down at their devices, and I

did notice the right reverend prime

1:11:151:11:22

it, if I can put it this way,

fiddling with his iPhone quite a bit

1:11:221:11:27

in the last little while. This

sounds like a trivial observation,

1:11:271:11:35

but this is truly fundamental. We

are right on the edge of some of the

1:11:351:11:41

biggest changes that have ever

transformed human society, happening

1:11:411:11:44

much more quickly than ever before,

and happening more globally than

1:11:441:11:48

ever before. With some help from the

outside world, it must be said,

1:11:481:12:00

driven by the digital revolution.

And I was very pleased that the

1:12:001:12:08

right reverend Primate placed so

much emphasis on this. If we cannot

1:12:081:12:14

compete in this area at all, our

levels of education will be dead in

1:12:141:12:19

the water internationally. SHOUTING.

With some continuing disturbance

1:12:191:12:33

from outside. It is important to

understand, without being too

1:12:331:12:37

didactic about it, what the digital

revolution is, it is not the

1:12:371:12:44

Internet, it is not robotics, it is

not supercomputing power, it is all

1:12:441:12:48

of those things bound up together in

this huge rush of change going

1:12:481:12:52

through our lives. It is already

transforming universities, my Lords.

1:12:521:13:00

One of the most notable examples of

that is the emergence of so-called

1:13:001:13:12

MOOCs, Mass open online courses.

They are amazing. They reach

1:13:121:13:19

millions of people across the world.

People can take part in seminars.

1:13:191:13:26

You can take part in an online

seminar with students from Africa

1:13:261:13:30

while you are sitting in London, for

example, and those courses for free.

1:13:301:13:35

So there is a huge tension here

between the emergence of free mass

1:13:351:13:42

courses like that, and the huge fees

that are being charged in full-time

1:13:421:13:47

higher education. That tension will

be very difficult to resolve, and I

1:13:471:13:55

think the noble Lord Adonis was

quite right to draw attention to it.

1:13:551:13:59

The issue for me is not vice

Chancellor's salaries, which is

1:13:591:14:04

marginal, it is the wholescale

marketisation of higher education,

1:14:041:14:09

with a time bomb of student debt,

with no thought to the future and no

1:14:091:14:13

thought to the transformation of

labour markets which, if I get time

1:14:131:14:17

in my six minutes, I want to briefly

mentioned. What is happening, my

1:14:171:14:24

Lords, in universities, is also

happening in schools. Schools are

1:14:241:14:28

going to change just as

dramatically, as for example

1:14:281:14:33

businesses have changed, over the

past 15 to 20 years. Let me just

1:14:331:14:36

very quickly mention some of those

changes already happening. First of

1:14:361:14:44

all, traditional style teaching, the

teacher standing in front of the

1:14:441:14:48

class, disciplined children sitting

at desks, that still exists, that

1:14:481:14:52

will go on. But alongside that, even

more importantly these days,

1:14:521:14:58

children huddled round computers.

They are in groups. It is no longer

1:14:581:15:01

a single didactic model with the

teacher. The teacher is no longer

1:15:011:15:06

the repository of all knowledge

because all of human knowledge is

1:15:061:15:10

there, in the device that you have

in your pocket, or you have sort of

1:15:101:15:14

hidden away under the desk. So

already, the structure of schools is

1:15:141:15:21

already changing. Second, you have

radically different models emerging

1:15:211:15:25

around the world, and even though

they are in their early days, they

1:15:251:15:29

are in some sense the future, which

are like collaborative models of

1:15:291:15:33

education. For example, in the US,

you have the home-schooling

1:15:331:15:37

movement. There are 2 million

children in the US who are schooled

1:15:371:15:44

at home, not legal here, but legal

there. This is growing apace. This

1:15:441:15:50

is mostly done digitally. It is

often done in collaboration with

1:15:501:15:54

schools, so the idea that schools

are a fixed place will tend to break

1:15:541:15:58

down, just as happened in the

workplace. It is already happening

1:15:581:16:03

actually in education across the

world, even if we are just in early

1:16:031:16:07

phases of it. Third, as other noble

Lords have mentioned, the digital

1:16:071:16:12

revolution has a very dark side, and

it has to be an fundamental part of

1:16:121:16:26

primary education, secondary

education, to allow children to deal

1:16:261:16:28

with this dark side. I don't know if

you know this, but it came up in our

1:16:281:16:31

AI select committee, or someone

mentioned it and someone went to

1:16:311:16:33

look tough on the Internet, you can

buy an infant's potty with a bracket

1:16:331:16:37

on it where you can put an iPad for

a newly born infant. Well, it is

1:16:371:16:46

supposed to get a laugh, but it is

really frightening, because a

1:16:461:16:52

neuroscientist described the effect

of iPhones and iPad is on children

1:16:521:16:56

as crack cocaine for children. It is

so addictive and it is so

1:16:561:17:01

compulsive. And all of human

knowledge bad and good is there. It

1:17:011:17:06

is a huge challenge for education, I

think. It must start early on, it

1:17:061:17:12

must start with parents but it must

be embedded in primary school

1:17:121:17:16

education as well. Finally, we have

to look again at the usual things

1:17:161:17:23

said about lifelong learning. It is

a bit crass and simple. Digital

1:17:231:17:29

schools are not really relevant,

they are relevant to people working

1:17:291:17:33

in the digital industries, but

mostly this will be a process of

1:17:331:17:39

deskilling as happened in other

areas. Un-learning is just as

1:17:391:17:48

important as learning and we need a

completely different model about

1:17:481:17:52

what the unfolding of a child and

adult's life will be in this

1:17:521:17:57

imminent, well, already here future.

My Lords, I'm very grateful for

1:17:571:18:04

opportunity of speaking about

education, which we know is the

1:18:041:18:13

lodestone of all of the prosperity

of our society. I would like to

1:18:131:18:19

describe an ecosystem, a very

interesting ecosystem, it is called

1:18:191:18:24

poverty. And what it takes to

prosper is it takes the failure of

1:18:241:18:33

education to be written so large

that of the 9 million children that

1:18:331:18:37

are in school at the moment, we are

going to be writing off 3 million of

1:18:371:18:45

them, because 37% of our

schoolchildren goes through school

1:18:451:18:49

and come out the other end, and you

would never know that they had been

1:18:491:18:53

to school. It is a very interesting

thing, because then if you go to the

1:18:531:19:01

A&E department across the road, and

talk to the doctors and talk to the

1:19:011:19:05

patients, you will find that many,

many of those people, in fact, the

1:19:051:19:10

vast majority of them, will be

people who have failed at school. If

1:19:101:19:16

you go to the cheap jobs, if you go

to the £6, £7, £8, even £10 jobs, it

1:19:161:19:26

will be people who have not done

very well at school. If we spend £40

1:19:261:19:33

billion a year on our kids, that is

about 13 billion, is it not, 13

1:19:331:19:39

billion that we just throw away

every year. This is a recipe for

1:19:391:19:44

disaster. If we want to go into our

prisons, we can go into our prisons

1:19:441:19:52

and find that 80% of them will be

people who have failed at school. I

1:19:521:19:57

know this from my own experience. I

have to declaring interests, I am a

1:19:571:20:02

failed child who had an enormous

amount of money spent on him when he

1:20:021:20:07

got nicked and put into boys prisons

and places like that, whereas I said

1:20:071:20:12

in the House before, where they

spent twice the amount of money on

1:20:121:20:16

me that they would spend on sending

you to Eton. You have this really

1:20:161:20:20

weird thing. After the Second World

War, a kind of inept socialism came

1:20:201:20:30

in, to join the inept capitalism

that we run, because our capitalism

1:20:301:20:36

is a poor underinvested capitalism,

and our socialism is equally inept,

1:20:361:20:41

so we have got these two functions

going on at the same time. We have a

1:20:411:20:47

society which is an ecosystem for

social failure. We don't have a

1:20:471:20:53

bullish capitalism. We don't invest

our money in new businesses, we

1:20:531:21:01

spend 87% of all money that is led

by banks goes in the buying and

1:21:011:21:06

selling of property. We have this

really perverse world where we don't

1:21:061:21:13

educate our bosses, our ruling

class, if you like to call them, our

1:21:131:21:20

property classes, into taking more

risks with their money will stop

1:21:201:21:23

they would rather put it into

property. They would rather put it

1:21:231:21:28

into getting thousands of people

flipping hamburgers. We are in this

1:21:281:21:33

really strange self-defeating world.

It's interesting that when we joined

1:21:331:21:39

the European Common Market in 1973,

our productivity was about 30%

1:21:391:21:48

behind Germany. It is now 35%. At

that time, our productivity, we were

1:21:481:21:55

ahead of the French, but now we are

behind the French. We were well

1:21:551:22:00

behind the Italians and now we are

almost about 10% behind them. All of

1:22:001:22:06

these kind of strange things all

come together to produce this really

1:22:061:22:11

weird world where we produce

underachieving children who fill up

1:22:111:22:18

our social security holes, who fill

up our prisons, who fill up our A&E

1:22:181:22:24

departments, and we are sitting on

this ecosystem, and we are talking

1:22:241:22:30

about it, but is there a government

brave enough to stand up and say,

1:22:301:22:35

that whatever amount of experiments,

whatever amount of projects, however

1:22:351:22:44

we rearrange the budget, there needs

to be an enormous, an enormous

1:22:441:22:51

investment to be made in getting us

out of this situation. I don't want

1:22:511:22:55

to be too dramatic, but I'm sorry I

can't help it!

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LAUGHTER

But you look at what happened in

1:23:001:23:07

1939. Between 1939 and 1945, we

borrowed the future. And we only

1:23:071:23:14

stopped paying off for that future

in 2006, when the man signed the

1:23:141:23:21

last cheque to the American

government over the lend lease. We

1:23:211:23:24

borrowed the future to actually have

a future. Unfortunately, unless we

1:23:241:23:32

declare war on our lack of

education, on the strange way that

1:23:321:23:39

we think we can leave things to

market forces, you look at the most

1:23:391:23:43

successful economy in the last 100

years, the German economy. The

1:23:431:23:49

German economy was established in

the 19th century by mass investment

1:23:491:23:54

by governments, and actually, if you

look at the United States and all of

1:23:541:23:59

the new technology, it has all grown

out of stuff that was developed by

1:23:591:24:04

government money given to

universities. There all these sorts,

1:24:041:24:08

we really need to wake up to this

bell-ringing, this toxic belt. And

1:24:081:24:15

that is, if we don't actually grab

the opportunity, we will be having

1:24:151:24:21

this discussion in ten, 20 years'

time, and we will be sent, isn't it

1:24:211:24:25

a pity that we have so minute poor

people, that we have so many people

1:24:251:24:29

failing at schools. Unless we do the

one thing that I would suggest that

1:24:291:24:34

we do, which is to plan, have an

enormous plan on how we going to get

1:24:341:24:39

out of the Greece, where are the

problems that have come this far,

1:24:391:24:44

what are we going to do about it, we

need some really big strategising

1:24:441:24:48

and that is what I suggest we do.

Thank you.

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My Lords, many of us will have noted

the report of the commission on

1:24:551:24:59

social mobility list last week with

the sobering analysis of Britain's

1:24:591:25:05

alienate it and marginal

communities. It documents the

1:25:051:25:14

widening gap in attainment with the

worst cold spots for social mobility

1:25:141:25:18

now being in former industrial towns

and coastal communities. It is

1:25:181:25:24

striking that the map of low

attainment and high levels of young

1:25:241:25:27

people not in employment matches so

closely with those areas which voted

1:25:271:25:33

heavily to leave the European Union.

These areas, the report concludes,

1:25:331:25:39

feel left behind because they are.

They feel the benefits of

1:25:391:25:45

globalisation passed them by. We've

become a more socially divided

1:25:451:25:54

country, not so much along ethnic

lines but cities and suburbs and the

1:25:541:26:00

white working class. Sections of our

media have written these citizens

1:26:001:26:10

off as a feckless underclass.

Furthermore, part of the dependence

1:26:101:26:18

on immigration has come from

employers prevalent for recruiting

1:26:181:26:26

motivated workers from abroad as the

harder task of training and

1:26:261:26:32

educating local people. Better

quality education will not be enough

1:26:321:26:36

on its own to bring these depressed

and divided communities back into

1:26:361:26:42

harmony with the rest of Britain. We

need a social mobility commission

1:26:421:26:47

with a more redistributive approach

to spreading housing products across

1:26:471:26:58

our country. We need reinvestment in

transport links outside the

1:26:581:27:06

south-east and we need locally

available finance to support the

1:27:061:27:09

growth of local enterprises. It goes

without saying of course that Brexit

1:27:091:27:15

will do nothing to better their

chances and is likely to make their

1:27:151:27:19

situation worse. But education and

training is essential to social and

1:27:191:27:24

economic recovery. Early years

education is the most important

1:27:241:27:29

priority for children from poor and

vulnerable families, without the

1:27:291:27:38

support of a family group. I'm proud

the Liberal Democrats introduced the

1:27:381:27:44

pupil premium, which teachers tell

me has made a real difference. I

1:27:441:27:49

regret that the Conservatives cut

back on the sure start programme. I

1:27:491:28:06

say to the Labour Party that

increasing public spending on the

1:28:061:28:10

50% who do not go to university all

the way through from nurses to

1:28:101:28:17

apprenticeships, should be a higher

priority than cutting fees on

1:28:171:28:22

university students. I dissent from

my party's tuition fee line and hold

1:28:221:28:32

the same view today. Any progressive

politicians should put improving the

1:28:321:28:39

chances of the less privileged

first. There are many other measures

1:28:391:28:44

which should be pressing to

encourage children from these

1:28:441:28:49

communities to learn and gain life

skills and employment skills. There

1:28:491:28:54

should be the feeling that they are

included in our national community.

1:28:541:29:00

Teacher turnover is high. We need

not only to grant them more respect

1:29:001:29:07

but also grant them more. We should

extend that by writing off student

1:29:071:29:18

loans at a progressive rate. School

partnerships are clearly important

1:29:181:29:26

in encouraging teachers to stay and

in lifting performance.

1:29:261:29:30

Multi-academy trusts are one way to

provide such partnerships but local

1:29:301:29:34

authorities should also have a wider

role in encouraging schools to work

1:29:341:29:39

together. The Independent school

sectors should also do more to

1:29:391:29:42

encourage partnerships, to justify

the public benefits to which they

1:29:421:29:47

are obligated. I've seen some

excellent partnerships in action and

1:29:471:29:52

I'm conscious best practice does not

extend across much of the

1:29:521:29:58

independent sector. Schools do not

operate all year round.

1:29:581:30:03

Disadvantaged pupils fall back every

summer. Liberal Democrat councillors

1:30:031:30:08

have been running a summer school

for children between primary and

1:30:081:30:11

secondary over the past two years.

We need both non-governmental groups

1:30:111:30:24

and local authorities to provide

more opportunities for disadvantaged

1:30:241:30:27

children out of school hours and

school tones to widen their

1:30:271:30:33

perspectives and raise their

aspirations. Middle-class children

1:30:331:30:36

benefit from a range of out of

school activities from an early age.

1:30:361:30:42

Working-class children miss out on

that. I was saddened to discover

1:30:421:30:46

that the visit to the Lake District

was for some children, the first

1:30:461:30:52

time in their life they had been

outside Bradford. Low aspiration and

1:30:521:31:01

low expectation. The transition is a

vital aspect of successful secondary

1:31:011:31:07

expectation. Some employers work

closely with local schools to

1:31:071:31:13

provide work experience and the

prospect of training. Best practice

1:31:131:31:16

does not extend far enough across

the country. Further education

1:31:161:31:22

colleges have been, as Lord

Lingfield and Baroness Garden have

1:31:221:31:31

said, financially squeezed and

sidelines. We need to strengthen the

1:31:311:31:34

idea of continuing education which

means strengthening the role of

1:31:341:31:39

further education colleges. I wish I

could believe that the

1:31:391:31:45

apprenticeship scheme will help in

this respect but much of what I've

1:31:451:31:48

read says it will fail to provide

the most crucial element which is

1:31:481:31:52

the path into skilled work for young

people. The Church of England

1:31:521:31:56

already please a constructive part

in limiting this but I recall the

1:31:561:32:04

faith in the city initiative which I

saw as an appeal to middle-class

1:32:041:32:10

committees. Jack and schools have a

good record in providing more than

1:32:101:32:17

just the national syllabus and in

providing is children in schools

1:32:171:32:20

with a wider sense of community. I

thank the diocese of London for the

1:32:201:32:26

support he gives to the musical

education charity which I cheered

1:32:261:32:29

for 12 years which takes singing

into schools that have lost their

1:32:291:32:35

music teachers. The Church of

England and many other institutions

1:32:351:32:46

have much to contribute to repairing

the weaknesses of our countries

1:32:461:32:53

education and rebuilding an

inclusive society. The prime

1:32:531:32:57

responsibility lies with public

institutions, the state and the

1:32:571:33:01

Treasury to invest and rebuild a

flourishing and inclusive national

1:33:011:33:08

community. I am grateful to my most

honourable friend for this

1:33:081:33:14

opportunity. I will address a

crucial place of education in

1:33:141:33:21

providing value and enabling every

member of our society to contribute

1:33:211:33:24

and flourish. We must continue to

develop curriculum to suit our

1:33:241:33:32

developing industrial and commercial

needs. This means we must work to

1:33:321:33:37

nurture and support children and

young people so they may be

1:33:371:33:40

employable author on the grounds of

their skills and there are rich and

1:33:401:33:44

steadfast character. Giving them the

support and foundations for good

1:33:441:33:51

mental health that will be necessary

throughout their lives. We are

1:33:511:33:57

currently experiencing a period of

great uncertainty, politically,

1:33:571:34:01

financially, morally. Whilst we may

not know what things might look like

1:34:011:34:09

in March 2019, we do know that we

must continue to prepare for the

1:34:091:34:14

longer term to meet the demands of

our changing landscape and we are

1:34:141:34:19

ready to face the competitive

markets which we will engage with.

1:34:191:34:24

People must be skilled, adaptable

and resilient. This will only be

1:34:241:34:31

possible if we tackle inequality of

access to the acquisition of life

1:34:311:34:37

and technical skills. In equality of

access is the scourge of our

1:34:371:34:40

generation. I implore the commitment

to social mobility of the Secretary

1:34:401:34:50

of State for Education but we're not

doing anywhere near enough. The

1:34:501:34:57

report that came out inspired me.

The church continues with other

1:34:571:35:12

institutions to be passionate about

seeking to reach out to the most

1:35:121:35:23

excluded in the home, school and the

workplace. I agree about the

1:35:231:35:32

challenges faced by schools in some

of our northern towns. I was

1:35:321:35:38

visiting schools in Blackpool

earlier this year and I saw the

1:35:381:35:40

challenges they face. Severe

deprivation does not happen in urban

1:35:401:35:48

areas but also coastal towns and

remote rural areas where I live.

1:35:481:36:02

Disadvantages accumulate. Children

living in poverty or family debt are

1:36:021:36:08

more likely to experience mental and

physical health deficits as well as

1:36:081:36:13

an impoverished life of imagination.

All these factors have an impact. We

1:36:131:36:22

must seek out those in needs so that

we can ensure no member of society

1:36:221:36:33

is hampered by their background. The

Church of England is a recognised

1:36:331:36:45

partner in this policy. Her

Majesty's government is working hard

1:36:451:36:55

to develop curriculum and

qualifications which meet our future

1:36:551:36:58

needs, most notably the introduction

of levels and apprenticeships. I am

1:36:581:37:09

thrilled that this is the first

school to be an improved training

1:37:091:37:19

provider. The Church of England is

committed to opening more secondary

1:37:191:37:22

schools like in Huntington, to take

the model to the next stage of a

1:37:221:37:30

single campus which will provide

academic and simple pathways which

1:37:301:37:38

we have created to run. We aim to

foster a student focused,

1:37:381:37:45

economically ambitious approach to

education but it must also be

1:37:451:37:48

prosthetic enough to equip young

people foreign agile and robust 50

1:37:481:37:53

or 60 years of productivity in a

global setting not yet visible to

1:37:531:38:00

us. However, education is not simply

about imparting skills or knowledge.

1:38:001:38:10

This is fundamentally about

character and creating an

1:38:101:38:14

educational environment which goes

beyond the metrics of a core

1:38:141:38:18

curriculum. We need a holistic

attention to each individual child

1:38:181:38:23

and young person, a large part of it

needs to include being attentive to

1:38:231:38:29

their mental health needs. The

arrival of the green paper is

1:38:291:38:38

timely. The government is committed

to ensuring every school and college

1:38:381:38:44

will be is able to play a vital role

in identifying mental health needs

1:38:441:38:51

at an early stage and promoting

mental health practices from the

1:38:511:38:55

very beginning of a child's

education. I regularly visit schools

1:38:551:39:00

at the Phoenix Centre, where they

can continue their education but

1:39:001:39:06

they are in hospital receiving

treatment for self harming and

1:39:061:39:10

eating disorders. It's a constant

pain to me to see these children,

1:39:101:39:16

whose needs might have been met

sooner, the work of a disadvantaged

1:39:161:39:24

coastal community is a perfect

example of a school engaging with

1:39:241:39:28

mental health needs at an early

stage. As part of the Church of

1:39:281:39:33

England's education officers

national project, Saint Katharine is

1:39:331:39:39

running a project to help children

overcome mental health disadvantage

1:39:391:39:43

through targeted support for

children with mental health needs.

1:39:431:39:47

It is very easy to dwell on the

negative spot the Church of

1:39:471:39:51

England's vision for education is

rooted in hope, hope offered by

1:39:511:39:57

Christ to us all, and the

opportunity that all of us may have

1:39:571:40:00

for a fresh start and the full

dignity of humanity in him.

1:40:001:40:08

We do not despair in the face of

deprivation and we hope to tackle it

1:40:081:40:12

head on and make a difference to the

lives and confidence of young people

1:40:121:40:17

and their families.

We're all very grateful for the

1:40:171:40:20

primate to the initiation of this

debate. Could I have my personal

1:40:201:40:23

vote of thanks on behalf of the

Anglican Church for what they have

1:40:231:40:26

done for me? We were evacuated

during the water Southport, and they

1:40:261:40:32

went to a Church of England primary

school, Holy Trinity, next to Holy

1:40:321:40:38

Trinity Church, at the end of the

street, and it was a wonderful

1:40:381:40:44

education. Red brick yard with

concrete all around, and last stuck

1:40:441:40:48

in the top to stop people coming

over. That was our security. The

1:40:481:40:53

more challenging students would

climb up and shipped their bits of

1:40:531:40:56

glass away! It was a good, basic

education, learning tables by heart,

1:40:561:41:01

learning poetry by heart, tests

every turn. They say they are

1:41:011:41:04

oppressive, but I had them every

term at a Church of England primary

1:41:041:41:09

School, and it was the basis of my

education, so I thank you for that.

1:41:091:41:13

I am personally not in favour of any

more single faith schools. The

1:41:131:41:19

Labour government and coalition

government provided those, and I

1:41:191:41:21

think it was a big mistake. I think

children of all creeds, races and

1:41:211:41:25

nations should work, play and eat

beside each other, and go home on a

1:41:251:41:30

couch beside each other. I don't

want to talk any more that religious

1:41:301:41:35

schools. I think the education

system of our country is on the

1:41:351:41:40

cost, and will be fundamentally

changed by the digital revolution to

1:41:401:41:42

which the primate referred. It will

first reduce and skilled jobs on a

1:41:421:41:47

massive and unprecedented scale. The

only thing maintaining the education

1:41:471:41:53

system since 1870 has been a large

reservoir unskilled jobs at the

1:41:531:41:56

bottom, in which the students who do

not do well at school are filling.

1:41:561:42:03

Warehouse jobs, driving jobs, you

know that when you order something

1:42:031:42:08

today, the only time a hand has

touched it is when someone knocked

1:42:081:42:11

on your door. Mercedes is producing

a driverless lorry which will

1:42:111:42:16

decimate the millions of trap-jaw

ant is in America and those who run

1:42:161:42:22

stopovers on sandwich bars. And not

only unskilled. Middle management

1:42:221:42:25

will be absolutely decimated by it.

When RBS say they're going to close

1:42:251:42:31

200 banks, it is middle managers,

people here taken humanities

1:42:311:42:37

degrees, got a job in a big

operation and expected to have a

1:42:371:42:41

comfortable job for the rest of

their lives. Artificial intelligence

1:42:411:42:44

and big data is going to destroy

most of those jobs. I come to "In

1:42:441:42:48

that we need a fundamental change to

increase the technical education of

1:42:481:42:52

our country. But we're not doing

that on a beginner scale. All

1:42:521:43:01

technical education is being

squeezed out of schools below 16. I

1:43:011:43:04

think we are the only large country

that is actually following this

1:43:041:43:08

policy. Design and technology is the

only GCSE I introduced in the 1980s,

1:43:081:43:13

and it has fallen for the last seven

years, meaning fewer and fewer

1:43:131:43:16

people at 16 have any experience of

technical education. An 18-year-old

1:43:161:43:21

German student at the age of 18, 70%

of those would have had some

1:43:211:43:26

technical education. In Britain,

that is only 30%. Something has to

1:43:261:43:30

be done about this, and that is wife

or the last seven years, I have

1:43:301:43:36

promoted university technical

colleges, which are 14-18 colleges.

1:43:361:43:40

We operate from nine or 9:30am till

five o'clock every day. I tell

1:43:401:43:44

youngsters when they join that this

is the beginning of their working

1:43:441:43:48

life, and for two days of the week,

they will be making in designing

1:43:481:43:51

things with their hands. The great

virtue of his colleges, we have 49

1:43:511:43:55

of them, we should have many more,

is that we have the best employment

1:43:551:43:58

rate of any schools in the country.

Last July, we have got 13,000

1:43:581:44:03

students at the moment who have

probably -- and I will probably be

1:44:031:44:09

20,000 by the end of this year. We

had 2000 levers, of whom only 26

1:44:091:44:15

were NEETs, and you needed

job-seeker's allowance. That is an

1:44:151:44:18

unemployment rate of 1%. The actual

unemployment rate, which the

1:44:181:44:23

government do not talk much about,

is actually 12.2%, and we are 1%. It

1:44:231:44:31

is a very clear demonstration of how

successful these colleges are, and I

1:44:311:44:34

am very glad that the gentleman in

pre-Shia

1:44:341:44:44

appreciates how important these are,

and I think the country needs more

1:44:471:44:51

UTCs. We had many technical skills,

or killed by snobbery. It was a

1:44:511:44:58

massive mistake. We need to invent a

large amount of technical schools in

1:44:581:45:01

our country. And can I say something

about computing? Again, as with

1:45:011:45:09

several things already said today,

commuters tablet computers will

1:45:091:45:13

fundamentally change education.

There is no doubt about that. The

1:45:131:45:19

government said that primary schools

should teach coding last year, and I

1:45:191:45:23

welcome that. The most successful

digital country and Europe is

1:45:231:45:27

Estonia, and their biggest exporter

's computer scientist. The former

1:45:271:45:31

president of Estonia has been

employed by the European Commission

1:45:311:45:33

to determine the digital policy for

Europe, we may have had coding in

1:45:331:45:38

their schools -- and they have had

coding in their schools the two

1:45:381:45:43

decades. Starting in primary

schools, yes. Some people say, is it

1:45:431:45:48

too early to start in primary

schools? I have come across a school

1:45:481:45:53

in Telford, and they are meeting the

headmaster after Christmas, and he

1:45:531:45:58

has got, of his students at 11, and

Audrey primary school with 66%

1:45:581:46:06

disadvantaged pupils, he has got his

pupils are GCSE Kim heating level.

1:46:061:46:13

If he can do that, any primary

school should do it. I'm going to

1:46:131:46:17

find out how he do that and make

sure it can spread throughout the

1:46:171:46:20

primary areas. The other thing

primary schools should have our 3D

1:46:201:46:23

printer 's. Those who have seen them

realise how important they are, how

1:46:231:46:31

they help inventiveness and

creativity. When it comes to

1:46:311:46:33

secondary education, the government

is not really doing enough to expand

1:46:331:46:37

computer studies and schools. Last

July, 60,000 students took GCSE

1:46:371:46:45

computing at 16, which sounds a lot,

but over 300,000 took a

1:46:451:46:49

foreign-language. Are they going to

say a foreign-language must be

1:46:491:46:55

compulsory and 16? I don't believe

that is necessary, but it should be

1:46:551:46:59

voluntary, and a computer language

should be. It is more important

1:46:591:47:03

today to understand a computer

language than to pick up the

1:47:031:47:05

smatterings of foreign language, and

I think that is a change that should

1:47:051:47:08

be made. I think the government is

moving, but that too slow a place. I

1:47:081:47:12

think this is something that really

must be taken in hand, because

1:47:121:47:15

without that, I am quite sure that

youth unemployment at 18, which is

1:47:151:47:21

now 12.2%, having gone up by half a

percent this year, will increase,

1:47:211:47:25

and Brexit will make it even more

difficult for us to do this, and we

1:47:251:47:29

have a skills gap which is enormous.

750,000 digital technicians short,

1:47:291:47:33

45,000 STEM graduates a year short.

This requires a change in the vigour

1:47:331:47:43

of increasing technical education.

May I begin by joining everyone else

1:47:431:47:48

in thanking the most reverent

primate for securing this debate and

1:47:481:47:52

introducing it in a way which was

both stimulating and challenging,

1:47:521:47:58

and set a very high bar for the rest

of us, if I may say so. Like the

1:47:581:48:03

noble Lord Baker, my own early

education was in a Church of England

1:48:031:48:07

school, a village primary school.

Although I am of no settled face

1:48:071:48:13

now, I acknowledge the huge debt

that I owe to the early introduction

1:48:131:48:19

to the Bible, the King James

version, my Lords, old and new

1:48:191:48:25

Testaments, and to the liturgy of

the English Church, expressed in the

1:48:251:48:30

book of Common prayer. I am still

strongly attached to both, albeit

1:48:301:48:35

by, I suppose what would call more

aesthetic than theological ties.

1:48:351:48:41

Because from them, I got most of

what I needed to gain access to the

1:48:411:48:46

huge Treasury of art and music and

drama and literature produced as

1:48:461:48:53

part of, or in response to, 2000

years of Christian belief and

1:48:531:48:59

practice, and outs of that, I got a

wonderful career. So I have much to

1:48:591:49:05

be grateful for, my Lords,

unbeliever though I be. I just want

1:49:051:49:10

to raise one matter, which has been

touched on by many other noble

1:49:101:49:15

Lords, and it is about the

relationship between education and

1:49:151:49:18

democracy. We live in dangerous

times. Democracy is threatened

1:49:181:49:24

everywhere. Sometimes physically.

But more seriously, intellectually

1:49:241:49:27

and emotionally. If we believe with

Churchill, as I do, that democracy

1:49:271:49:33

is not perfect all wise, but that it

is nonetheless preferable to all

1:49:331:49:38

other forms of government that have

been tried, then we must defend it,

1:49:381:49:44

and our first line of defence is the

education of our children. As I said

1:49:441:49:50

before in this house, I believe this

definition of education, expressed

1:49:501:49:58

as to how we expect our schools to

behave, has become far too narrow

1:49:581:50:03

and reliant on examinations, and

therefore formulate the gene to the

1:50:031:50:07

test. I mean no disrespect to

teachers when I say that, and I had

1:50:071:50:12

better not, because my family is

full of them. I am more concerned

1:50:121:50:16

with asserting the need for a direct

connection between educational

1:50:161:50:18

inputs and jobs. Education, my

Lords, as the most reverent primate

1:50:181:50:23

and others have said, is not just

about knowing stuff. It is also

1:50:231:50:28

about thinking stuff and feeling

stuff, as the noble lady Neuberger

1:50:281:50:37

so eloquently put it to us about

emotional literacy, which is about

1:50:371:50:42

understanding how others think and

feel. It is about learning to deal

1:50:421:50:47

with complexity, with ambiguity,

with contradiction, with the

1:50:471:50:52

frequent absence of right answers,

and now, with a daily avalanche of

1:50:521:50:59

unmediated information, what the

most reverent primate referred to as

1:50:591:51:03

unguided and competing narratives,

unguided and competing values and

1:51:031:51:07

narratives, which come act all our

young April via the internet. In

1:51:071:51:15

other words, education is about the

exercise of judgment, of critical

1:51:151:51:18

thinking, and empathy, all vital to

exercising our democratic rights as

1:51:181:51:24

citizens responsibly, as well as and

not instead of, my Lords, knowing

1:51:241:51:32

our times tables, and how to create

an algorithm, and indeed, how to

1:51:321:51:36

spell algorithm. The responsibility

for ensuring this Brad cannot lie

1:51:361:51:44

entirely in schools. They need

support, and I'm afraid, my Lords,

1:51:441:51:49

here comes the stuck record bit in

terms of other interventions I have

1:51:491:51:51

made in this house. The study of the

arts provides matchless

1:51:511:51:57

opportunities to develop these

capabilities. The JAMA dies age and

1:51:571:52:01

of human dilemmas and aspirations

helps us to understand them. -- the

1:52:011:52:06

dramatisation. Shakespeare is a

great way of learning about human

1:52:061:52:10

beings. Metaphor, allegory,

characterisation infection help us

1:52:101:52:14

to grasp the wide differences

between people, and to tolerate

1:52:141:52:17

those differences, and participating

in music, particularly singing

1:52:171:52:24

enquiries, which I personally do,

teaches us, as they say, that there

1:52:241:52:28

is no I in team. The UK has many

wonderful cultural organisations,

1:52:281:52:35

small and large, regional and

national, and indeed, most hourly

1:52:351:52:42

contributing widely to the education

of the next generation of citizens,

1:52:421:52:45

both through their core work, and

through a variety of imaginative

1:52:451:52:51

collaborations with schools and

communities, especially in

1:52:511:52:53

disadvantaged areas. I refer in

passing to my work with the Royal

1:52:531:52:58

Shakespeare Company, which has

recently done great work in

1:52:581:53:01

Blackpool, which was mentioned as

one of those deprived areas. I would

1:53:011:53:04

also like to mention the excellent

work of Chicken Shed Theatre in

1:53:041:53:09

North London, where my nine-year-old

granddaughter is currently appearing

1:53:091:53:14

in their extremely professional, in

the very best sense, Christmas show,

1:53:141:53:17

in which she is appearing on stage

with children in wheelchairs, with

1:53:171:53:23

children with learning difficulties

and down syndrome, and every other

1:53:231:53:26

kind of human being you can think

of, old and young. What is she

1:53:261:53:32

learning from that? A great deal, my

Lords. Schools are able to

1:53:321:53:38

participate in the partnerships

these organisations offer them, and

1:53:381:53:39

they value them enormously. Evidence

shows they have a beneficial effect

1:53:391:53:46

on all aspects of learning, but

school leaders are often confused by

1:53:461:53:50

mixed messages from government about

the value of cultural education and

1:53:501:53:54

struggle more and more with

budgetary constraints as do the arts

1:53:541:53:58

organisations themselves. We are

missing a trick.

1:53:581:54:07

We are missing a trick and please

take this debate seriously.

I would

1:54:071:54:15

like to start by the clearing my

interest as chairman of the former

1:54:151:54:20

local government Association. As a

former teacher, I am particularly

1:54:201:54:27

pleased to have the opportunity to

speak in this important debate and I

1:54:271:54:32

thank the most Reverend primate for

initiating today's debate. We need

1:54:321:54:42

to provide young people with the

skills they need to flourish and it

1:54:421:54:47

is something we can all agree on. I

am pleased to note the achievements

1:54:471:54:58

which are giving millions of

children a better start in life than

1:54:581:55:02

they could have expected a decade

ago. Thanks to the school reforms

1:55:021:55:07

that have been introduced including

the establishment of free schools

1:55:071:55:10

and academies, as well as changes to

ensure a more rigorous curriculum,

1:55:101:55:21

there are more schools rated good

and outstanding than ever before.

1:55:211:55:30

The proportion of pupils taking core

academic subjects has almost

1:55:301:55:33

doubled. Too many children are not

receiving the start in life that

1:55:331:55:43

they deserve. In order to make sure

ours is a country where everyone has

1:55:431:55:48

a fair chance to go as far as their

talent and hard work will allow, we

1:55:481:55:56

must redouble our efforts to ensure

that everyone has a world-class

1:55:561:56:01

education. There is a wealth of

evidence to show that the

1:56:011:56:11

opportunities offered early on is

what defines a life chance. There

1:56:111:56:21

are two Mac areas of education

policy I am particularly passionate

1:56:211:56:23

about because of the transformative

impact they can have on young lives.

1:56:231:56:30

As a former leader of Bradford

Council and Vice President of an

1:56:301:56:37

association, I'm delighted local

government is leading the way in

1:56:371:56:40

these areas, to highlight just one

example I'm familiar with, North

1:56:401:56:46

Yorkshire County Council became the

first local authority in the country

1:56:461:56:50

to take the family model and

introduce it as a mainstream

1:56:501:56:55

approach for its own children and

young people's services, with one

1:56:551:57:00

plan and a dedicated social worker

for each family in need. Prevention

1:57:001:57:04

teams provide highly targeted

support at times when families are

1:57:041:57:08

most in need in order to stop

problems from escalating. In doing

1:57:081:57:14

so they are backed up by support

from a variety of external agencies.

1:57:141:57:27

This builds on a programme which

helped 850 families, resulting in

1:57:271:57:33

significant reductions in truancy,

youth crime, anti-social behaviour

1:57:331:57:36

and youth unemployment among the

most challenging of households. The

1:57:361:57:43

current programme is also making a

real difference to the lives of

1:57:431:57:47

people living in troubled families

as evidenced by a 20% reduction in

1:57:471:57:52

the social care population. I

believe if we are to give young

1:57:521:57:57

people the very best possible start

in life it is programmes such as

1:57:571:58:02

these, delivered at local level and

tailored to individual families and

1:58:021:58:08

their own circumstances that truly

have a transformative impact. Moving

1:58:081:58:14

on to formal education, if we are to

have a system that works for

1:58:141:58:19

everyone, it's important that the

way that funding is distributed is

1:58:191:58:26

fair. This is not the case currently

because across the country, children

1:58:261:58:31

with the same needs and expectations

receive markedly different rates of

1:58:311:58:35

funding for their school places. The

government is currently addressing

1:58:351:58:38

this through the introduction of a

national funding formula, something

1:58:381:58:44

I personally welcome. Reforms such

as this are complex and will be seen

1:58:441:58:52

to produce both winners and losers.

For this reason I join in welcoming

1:58:521:58:58

the announcement of 1.3 billion in

funding to ensure no school will

1:58:581:59:02

lose out under the national funding

formula in 2018 - 2020. I am also

1:59:021:59:14

pleased the government is committed

to protecting the pupil premium

1:59:141:59:18

referred to by Lord Wallace and

ensuring those young people who need

1:59:181:59:22

that support receive it. I'm sure

ministers are aware of lobbying on

1:59:221:59:31

the funding of children's services

and the pressures council budgets

1:59:311:59:36

are facing. No doubt they will be

carefully considering this in the

1:59:361:59:40

run-up to the local government

financial settlement which is

1:59:401:59:42

expected shortly. I've spoken about

early years education and formal

1:59:421:59:49

education and I'd like to conclude

by highlighting the importance of

1:59:491:59:55

offering real opportunities to the

200,000 young people choosing to

1:59:552:00:03

enter full-time vocational study

after the GCSE years.

2:00:032:00:10

Apprenticeships provide a great

opportunity for those young people

2:00:102:00:13

who are keen to enter the world of

work and I'm delighted councils are

2:00:132:00:19

playing an active role in promoting

these, for example, Kent County

2:00:192:00:24

Council offers a range of

apprenticeships to help them start

2:00:242:00:30

their careers. As part of the

apprentice offer, apprentices

2:00:302:00:37

receive £140 a week during their

apprenticeship as well as support

2:00:372:00:40

for all the qualifications they are

required to study for, access to a

2:00:402:00:47

mentor and support to look for a job

when the apprenticeship is finished.

2:00:472:00:55

The council offers support and

advice as well as access to relevant

2:00:552:01:00

funding and businesses so that they

are interested in taking on

2:01:002:01:08

apprentice ships. Apprenticeships

represent a potential transformation

2:01:082:01:15

in life chances of young people who

participate, boosting their

2:01:152:01:19

self-esteem and giving them the

skills that they need to enter the

2:01:192:01:21

world of work. In conclusion, a good

education and a decent start in life

2:01:212:01:31

are not luxuries. They are right

that should be enjoyed by everyone.

2:01:312:01:36

I've been delighted to take part in

this debate and I look forward to

2:01:362:01:41

hearing from the remaining speakers.

I would like to thank the most

2:01:412:01:49

Reverend primate for the opportunity

to address a subject that is vital

2:01:492:01:52

for the future. I will restrict

myself to one area where I can claim

2:01:522:02:00

some personal experience. The last

time this was debated was almost two

2:02:002:02:03

years ago. During that debate are

greatly missed colleague, Baroness

2:02:032:02:11

Williams, in her valedictory speech,

said this. The United Kingdom has a

2:02:112:02:16

special genius for demonstrating

public-sector imagination, for a

2:02:162:02:20

commitment to the idea and I deal of

public life. In her speech, she

2:02:202:02:24

referred to the BBC and the open

University as two examples of that

2:02:242:02:28

public sector imagination and it

sample -- in action. I wonder

2:02:282:02:37

whether that still truly exists. I

would argue that were it not for the

2:02:372:02:43

care and attention shown by this

house, it would be possible for the

2:02:432:02:48

BBC to be allowed to be atrophy.

Right now I would like to reflect on

2:02:482:02:55

the open University, an institution

to which everyone would pay lip

2:02:552:03:00

service. I am the beneficiary of a

part-time education although in my

2:03:002:03:13

day it was simply called night

school. I would hazard that most of

2:03:132:03:17

the speakers entered the world of

work in which they could put

2:03:172:03:22

education paying them having

developed a skill set that would

2:03:222:03:25

last a lifetime. That no longer

remains remotely the case. I spent

2:03:252:03:28

yesterday morning at Tech UK. They

offered us the self same message.

2:03:282:03:41

The prospects for this country's

future were being seriously hampered

2:03:412:03:49

by a shortage of skilled and

confident people. They want people

2:03:492:03:57

in the workforce to be up skilled

and retrained to contribute to a

2:03:572:04:01

rapidly changing working

environment. That public imagination

2:04:012:04:05

I referred to greeted the world's

first distance learning

2:04:052:04:14

organisation, perfectly suited to

addressing the reskilling challenge.

2:04:142:04:18

Through a process of what I can only

describe as the nine neglect, the

2:04:182:04:24

mission to address exactly this type

of crisis has become seriously

2:04:242:04:33

endangered. Funding changes under

different UK governments have led

2:04:332:04:40

directly in the past five years to

50% fall in the number of part-time

2:04:402:04:44

learners in England. This is worse

than nations and regions which have

2:04:442:04:50

avoided the funding changes. The

open University has lower figures in

2:04:502:05:03

England than in Northern Ireland,

Scotland and Wales. In fact, England

2:05:032:05:11

accounts for 90% of the total

decline. When it comes to it I

2:05:112:05:19

wonder if the Minister would explain

these discrepancies and the fact

2:05:192:05:22

there are over double the part-time

students in Scotland than in

2:05:222:05:29

England. What do they know that we

have failed to grasp? Let's look at

2:05:292:05:41

the problem. If the government

agrees with the most ambitious of

2:05:412:05:45

our companies that we've a growing

skills gap then the potentially

2:05:452:05:52

transformative step would be to

develop accounts to offer help to

2:05:522:05:58

employees seeking training, closely

offered by industry. This could

2:05:582:06:05

drive a culture change and help

deliver the industrial policy. This

2:06:052:06:12

concept was laid out in compelling

detail by the Vice Chancellor, Peter

2:06:122:06:17

Horrocks, in a recent article which

I would recommend. In a world in

2:06:172:06:23

which the World Economic Forum can

report that just last year, China

2:06:232:06:29

had 4.7 million new graduates as

against 568,000 in the US, with the

2:06:292:06:36

UK not making it onto the list, we

cannot afford to leave a sizeable

2:06:362:06:41

proportion of our workforce cut

adrift by the inexorable march of

2:06:412:06:46

technology. Most particularly, when

we have a world-class institution

2:06:462:06:51

wishing to be repurposed to address

what is clearly a developing crisis.

2:06:512:07:02

All of this goes beyond world

economic considerations. It was an

2:07:022:07:06

unimaginable privilege to present to

people who had worked for years on

2:07:062:07:12

the kitchen tables at the start of

the journey towards improved lives

2:07:122:07:16

for themselves and their families.

Why would any government not wish to

2:07:162:07:20

play a part in making that possible?

What fascinating and moving to beat

2:07:202:07:33

this has turned out to be. So many

interesting and great speeches. I

2:07:332:07:41

want to focus upon the Academy

movement. At the turn-of-the-century

2:07:412:07:48

I became chairman of the United

schools trust which is a group of

2:07:482:07:56

independent schools which numbered

12. When Tony Blair announced his

2:07:562:08:02

intention to create the Academy

programme, under the leadership of

2:08:022:08:05

Lord Adonis, the United schools

trust was among the first to engage

2:08:052:08:13

with the programme. The then CEO

asks the question of our trustees,

2:08:132:08:19

what would our forebears do if they

were alive today? Formed in 1883, it

2:08:192:08:27

was created to provide excellent

education for girls and the trustees

2:08:272:08:37

in 1999 decided it demanded we to

should engage. Our group is one of

2:08:372:08:52

the most successful multi-Academy

trusts. Now led by John calls,

2:08:522:09:02

United learning has taken on failing

schools in the most deprived areas

2:09:022:09:09

of the country. They will be

transformed into thriving, popular

2:09:092:09:19

schools where pupils make excellent

progress. Successful forms are

2:09:192:09:26

providing students with life

changing opportunities to go to

2:09:262:09:29

university. Many of these students

are the first in a family to do so.

2:09:292:09:35

A good number have seen students

securing places in Russell Group

2:09:352:09:42

universities including Oxford and

Cambridge.

2:09:422:09:49

And striking features of United

Learning is that our response to the

2:09:492:09:55

academy programme arose from

independent education. We now have

2:09:552:10:00

school such as Guildford High School

For Girls, Surbiton High School For

2:10:002:10:05

Girls caterer -- Kate Hamer school,

to raise standards. One of the most

2:10:052:10:15

interesting links is Marlborough

College working closely with Swindon

2:10:152:10:17

Academy. I am aware that other links

exist, but I wonder if the

2:10:172:10:24

Department for Education is doing

much as it showed during carriage

2:10:242:10:26

that partnership as part of the

social duty of independent

2:10:262:10:30

education. In this, I add echo the

view of Lord Wallace of Saltaire.

2:10:302:10:39

Although many good things are

happening in education, the pressure

2:10:392:10:41

on state schools, I suppose on all

schools, are raising sharp questions

2:10:412:10:49

about education policy and

resources. The first thing I want to

2:10:492:10:55

raise as if the academy programme

created by the Labour government and

2:10:552:11:00

taken up with great enthusiasm by

the Conservative Party with equal

2:11:002:11:04

enthusiasm is still the ultimate

goal of the government. The White

2:11:042:11:10

Paper of March 2016 suggests that

this is the goal, but would the

2:11:102:11:17

Prime Minister desire to increase

the number of grammar schools,

2:11:172:11:20

although that has possibly been

kicked into the long grass, there

2:11:202:11:23

remains a question about the

government's long-term plans and

2:11:232:11:27

commitment. Is the government in

favour of full academise Asian or

2:11:272:11:31

not? -- academisation. The second

question is one of teacher shortage.

2:11:312:11:48

The latest figures for recruitment

into teacher training shows targets

2:11:482:11:51

being missed in almost every

subject, in many cases by a long

2:11:512:11:58

way. It is worth in some subjects,

especially maths and physical

2:11:582:12:06

science. Wherever there is a

shortage, my Lords, it is schools in

2:12:062:12:10

the poorest areas that are most

affected. So it tends to widen

2:12:102:12:15

disparities between schools, and our

fact social cohesion. Of course, it

2:12:152:12:23

is not impossible for heads to

recruit new teachers, but some find

2:12:232:12:26

it difficult to get specialists in

all subjects. The important point of

2:12:262:12:31

our teacher supply is that education

is a people's business, and schools

2:12:312:12:36

need the right skilled people

preaching every class. Given that

2:12:362:12:41

initial teacher training targets

have been missed again, may I ask

2:12:412:12:45

what is the government's strategy to

address the problem? Finally, my

2:12:452:12:51

Lords, a flourishing in skilled

society needs far more than young

2:12:512:12:55

people passing academic tests, and

this has been emphasised again and

2:12:552:13:02

again. Education must be grounded in

strong values and character

2:13:022:13:04

building, as Lord Griffiths reminded

us, in which the partnership between

2:13:042:13:10

families, schools and local

communities is a covenant. Yes, that

2:13:102:13:17

is a strong word, a covenant. Based

upon the fundamental importance of

2:13:172:13:24

the chart.

2:13:242:13:26

My Lords, it is a very great

pleasure to be able to take part in

2:13:272:13:31

this debate, which was so splendidly

introduced by the most Reverend

2:13:312:13:37

Primate, in his own inimitable way,

and of course, it is a great

2:13:372:13:43

pleasure to be able to follow a

former bishop, and I know something

2:13:432:13:46

of his work in United Learning,

because Lincoln Minster School is

2:13:462:13:54

one of the schools for which he had

overall responsibility. It is

2:13:542:13:59

something approaching 50 years since

I last was a schoolmaster. I spent

2:13:592:14:06

ten years in various schools, and I

am very sorry Lord donors is not

2:14:062:14:09

here now, because much of my

teaching, and most of learning, was

2:14:092:14:12

in Grimsby. But, my Lords, it was a

different age. In every possible

2:14:122:14:20

way. My noble friend, the Baroness

Shackleton, who again, is not here

2:14:202:14:29

at the moment, spoke movingly about

the family, the effect of family

2:14:292:14:36

breakdown on children's lives. My

Lords, in those days, I taught

2:14:362:14:41

throughout the 1960s, and in those

days, there were called Molly --

2:14:412:14:50

there were commonly accepted norms

and standards, and most children

2:14:502:14:54

attending schools were the children

of two parents of different sex,

2:14:542:15:00

married. I make no value judgments,

I merely state a fact. We now, my

2:15:002:15:12

lord, live in an age where the moral

compass by which life was lived in

2:15:122:15:18

those days, and for some

considerable time after that, no

2:15:182:15:22

longer functions. And it is a moral

compass, my Lords, that has been

2:15:222:15:28

destroyed, and I am glad to see the

noble Lord in his place nodding at

2:15:282:15:37

this point, because he made a

powerful point here, destroyed by

2:15:372:15:40

social media, and whatever

advantages social media and the

2:15:402:15:46

internet has brought to our lives,

there are also, and I speak as the

2:15:462:15:53

grandfather of four grandchildren,

there are also very real dangers.

2:15:532:16:01

There is a downside, my Lords, which

we have to combat, and it is in that

2:16:012:16:06

context that I just want to make a

few remarks about what should be the

2:16:062:16:10

ultimate purpose of education today.

My Lords, it should be seen educate

2:16:102:16:19

-- to educate, both from the point

of view of learning, and

2:16:192:16:23

emotionally, the citizens of the

future. What we need to come out of

2:16:232:16:32

our schools are responsible young

people, who take a pride in their

2:16:322:16:38

country, and I refer to something

Lord Sacks said earlier on in

2:16:382:16:50

debate, who imbibed through their

learning what this country is all

2:16:502:16:54

about. And how increasingly

necessary, my Lords, it is going to

2:16:542:17:02

do after 2019, when we begin the

tortuous process of extract in

2:17:022:17:11

ourselves from the European Union.

-- extracting.

2:17:112:17:17

My Lords, what is a responsible

citizen? Above all, someone who has

2:17:182:17:25

a sense of community cohesion, and

obligation to serve that community.

2:17:252:17:36

And so we need to inculcate, and

this is why I am delighted to be a

2:17:362:17:41

supporter of Church of England

schools and what they have brought

2:17:412:17:44

to our nation over the years, the

noble Baroness Lady McIntosh refers

2:17:442:17:48

to this, what we have got to

recognise is that there is a

2:17:482:17:58

continuing responsibility upon these

schools, and others, of course, to

2:17:582:18:04

teach what, in the words of the King

James Bible, which she referred to

2:18:042:18:11

so lovingly, and also, of course,

one of the Epistles for the day,

2:18:112:18:23

Trinity 20, is it? Corinthians 13,

faith, hope and charity, and the

2:18:232:18:30

greatest of these is charity.

We need young people who have a

2:18:302:18:37

sense of belonging to a community,

and a sense of obligation to commit

2:18:372:18:41

to that community. And so,

citizenship education should be

2:18:412:18:51

given a far higher priority than it

is at the moment. And my Lords, I

2:18:512:18:56

want to end on another point,

because it has been referred to by

2:18:562:19:00

several of your Lordships during

this debate, and it is one to which

2:19:002:19:03

I attach enormous importance. My

Lords, it is not a favour if our --

2:19:032:19:13

it is not a failure, if our young

people do not go to university.

2:19:132:19:18

Vocational qualification is it self

-- itself a noble aspiration. I have

2:19:182:19:26

the honour to be the founder

chairman of the William Morris Craft

2:19:262:19:31

Fellowships, and just a week ago, we

had our annual Fellowship Award, the

2:19:312:19:37

30th. It has been going 30 years

now. Young craftsmen and crass women

2:19:372:19:42

are rewarded, not only for what they

have achieved, but for their

2:19:422:19:46

potential. -- crafts women.

2:19:462:19:48

One of the obligations on a William

Morris Craft Fellow, a fellow for

2:19:502:19:58

life once appointed, is to go out

amongst the young and encourage them

2:19:582:20:01

to aspire to master one of the

crafts. The word "Apprenticeship"

2:20:012:20:10

has been bandied around quite a bit

during this debate, but true

2:20:102:20:15

apprenticeships are those which give

a rigorous training over a long

2:20:152:20:18

period, so that the young person

concerned can indeed be a master of

2:20:182:20:27

the craft. And if we can, indeed, in

spite of all the diversions and

2:20:272:20:33

problems and threats of social

media, if we could, indeed, moved to

2:20:332:20:38

2020 and beyond, have young people

come out of schools, not only

2:20:382:20:43

equipped to be equipped to be good

citizens and members of their

2:20:432:20:50

community, but masters of whatever

they have studied, and whatever

2:20:502:20:55

vocation they followed, then indeed,

we would be achieving a great deal

2:20:552:21:02

for the educational system in this

country.

2:21:022:21:09

The most reverend prelate has been a

great champion for economic and

2:21:102:21:13

social justice.

To his credit, he was one of the

2:21:132:21:17

first people to speak up against

loan sharks. This debate reflects

2:21:172:21:24

his determination and vision in

achieving that social justice in

2:21:242:21:30

educating the whole person. Noble

Lord Sacks and others has said that

2:21:302:21:41

education is part of our social

infrastructure. It is not something

2:21:412:21:44

to be nurtured separately, it is

part of what we are. And if we don't

2:21:442:21:50

get it right and move with the

times, everything else suffers. So

2:21:502:21:56

are we getting it right? Last week,

we learned there has been enormous

2:21:562:22:04

growth in the number of graduates in

the population. We also learned that

2:22:042:22:13

almost half of those who graduated

in the last five years are in

2:22:132:22:17

non-graduate level jobs. Noble Lords

will have heard this morning that

2:22:172:22:23

the chair of the National Audit

Office compares this with the

2:22:232:22:27

mis-selling by the banks. We also

learned there has been a large fall

2:22:272:22:34

in those taking up apprenticeships.

This may be due to the new system of

2:22:342:22:41

the apprenticeship levy, or the IFA

refusing support for low-level

2:22:412:22:47

schemes. But equally, it could mean

that employers are rejecting the

2:22:472:22:54

scheme, as my noble friend Lord

Jonas said, which would be a real

2:22:542:22:59

cause for worry. -- Lord Jonas.

There could be cuts in the FP

2:22:592:23:05

institutions. Perhaps the minister

can tell us, because we really do

2:23:052:23:12

have a great productivity mountain

to climb. We also learned that in

2:23:122:23:21

some parts of the country, 16% of

the population have no skills nor

2:23:212:23:27

qualifications at all. The national

average of 9% is far too high, and I

2:23:272:23:31

would agree with most noble Lords,

who say that it is deprivation

2:23:312:23:35

caused by these imbalances that is

holding our society back and I put

2:23:352:23:41

this down to many institutions

having to achieve their target

2:23:412:23:45

taking precedence over the needs of

society as a whole. Given more staff

2:23:452:23:56

and more time, of course they would

make more of complete education, as

2:23:562:24:03

required under the 2017 act. But the

system also encourages academic

2:24:032:24:09

development of the more able.

Teaching to the test means that

2:24:092:24:16

handed down knowledge takes

precedence over the forms of

2:24:162:24:19

teaching that explicitly seeks to

engage children in the learning

2:24:192:24:23

process.

2:24:232:24:31

The noble Lord spoke of social

media. Good exam marks don't tell us

2:24:312:24:40

how, in this post-truth age, we can

recognise alternative fact that we

2:24:402:24:44

find on social media. The fake news,

invented conspiracies, as the recent

2:24:442:24:54

University of Salford reported on

this. They are all designed to

2:24:542:25:00

undermine the very notion of

knowledge. The Welsh Assembly

2:25:002:25:06

decided to act, by abolishing

performance tables. And yes, they

2:25:062:25:13

found Welsh schools lagging behind.

Does this prove that what gets

2:25:132:25:19

measured gets done? Or that students

who have been steered towards easy

2:25:192:25:24

to obtain qualifications get good

results? I don't know. But we have

2:25:242:25:29

yet to learn that dropping the

performance tables has better

2:25:292:25:35

prepared students for real-life

situations. This character

2:25:352:25:41

development, or character education,

helps to promote well-being. And

2:25:412:25:49

improved well-being improves the

capacity to learn, not only

2:25:492:25:53

academically, but to learn the

social soft skills. Baroness

2:25:532:26:02

Neuberger, and other noble Lords and

the charity Young Minds make the

2:26:022:26:07

point that too much emphasis on

academic achievement and too little

2:26:072:26:11

character education is part of the

reason for our poor record on the

2:26:112:26:17

mental health of young people. I

agree with the bishop and my noble

2:26:172:26:24

friend Lord Puttnam. The purpose is

to prepare people for the less

2:26:242:26:28

tangible economy that we are busily

creating. He described it. Requiring

2:26:282:26:37

less tangible skills and the ability

to reinvent ourselves, as things

2:26:372:26:42

change. This is very vital in

today's world of work. Hopefully,

2:26:422:26:50

the RSA's ideal school exhibition

project will help. This attempts to

2:26:502:26:56

loosen the league tables' grip on

the tests, targets and tactics

2:26:562:27:02

system and are pleased with the more

mission orientated culture. Its

2:27:022:27:08

focus on the curriculum and testing

what has been taught, instead of

2:27:082:27:11

teaching what will be tested. To

reward genuine quality rather than

2:27:112:27:19

coach responses. My noble friend

Lord Griffiths made this point. This

2:27:192:27:28

project will still identify and

tackle failure, but will give

2:27:282:27:32

schools the freedom to pursue their

own mission. I agree with the

2:27:322:27:38

Archbishop's call to teach our

values and our ideals as well as how

2:27:382:27:45

to write a good exam. And this will

build the flourishing society with

2:27:452:27:50

all the right skills that the

Archbishop calls for in this debate.

2:27:502:28:00

I thank him for this time the

debate. It was Aristotle who said

2:28:002:28:08

that educating the mind without

educating the heart is no education

2:28:082:28:13

at all. Education should be about

understanding, not just memory. The

2:28:132:28:19

whole person education is clear from

the Bible. Christ is spoken of as a

2:28:192:28:23

teacher many times in the Gospels,

and one of his most important

2:28:232:28:26

lanterns is in Corinthians. The

human body has many parts, but the

2:28:262:28:33

many parts make up one whole body.

This whole person education approach

2:28:332:28:39

should be the foundation to

political, economic and social

2:28:392:28:44

decision-making. Education should

also be a lifelong pursuit. It is a

2:28:442:28:49

journey, not a destination. Some

years ago, I was walking down

2:28:492:28:53

Kennedy Road. A middle-aged man was

coming in the opposite direction,

2:28:532:28:58

smiling at me. He started laughing

and pointed to meet, saying, George

2:28:582:29:04

Clooney, George Clooney. I've been

called many things in my life, but

2:29:042:29:08

never George Clooney. Seeing her

bemused I was, he said, John Taylor?

2:29:082:29:16

Many years ago, you were my

lecturer. It was a dry subject, so

2:29:162:29:21

instead of calling them a and B, you

give them all Hollywood names. So

2:29:212:29:26

George Clooney would Seltzer Bette

Midler, who would then sublet to Kim

2:29:262:29:31

Basinger. I did recall his face,

because it was much older than the

2:29:312:29:36

other students. He explained how

after seven years in a factory he

2:29:362:29:40

had made the leap to study landlord

and become a legal executive. If any

2:29:402:29:48

of your Lordships nor George

Clooney, please tell he had a real

2:29:482:29:52

impact on my course. It was the

church of England which introduced a

2:29:522:29:58

school in every parish over 200

years ago. This was more than 50

2:29:582:30:02

years before the provision of state

education. Indeed, in the 19th

2:30:022:30:07

century, the Church also provided

some great leaders who had a real

2:30:072:30:10

impact on British life. To do so,

they had to educate and transform

2:30:102:30:15

people in the way they thought about

their fellow man. These Christian

2:30:152:30:19

leaders thought about the whole

person dynamic and included William

2:30:192:30:25

Wilberforce, with anti slavery,

Elizabeth Fry on prisons and voting

2:30:252:30:28

booths, the founder of the Salvation

Army. These leaders championed

2:30:282:30:34

universal values such as fairness,

tolerance, justice, forgiveness,

2:30:342:30:39

freedom of speech, family values.

And although the church was running

2:30:392:30:43

much of the early education, its

partnership with business provided

2:30:432:30:48

not only resources, but that early

link between education and the

2:30:482:30:52

workplace. In Birmingham, the Quaker

Christians started the Cadbury 's

2:30:522:30:57

company, which provided education,

employment and housing. They were

2:30:572:31:01

concerned about the whole person

employee. The Quakers started many

2:31:012:31:06

other companies, including the early

banks, Friends Provident, Huntley

2:31:062:31:10

and plumbers. -- Huntley and

palmers. Boots was a small shop in

2:31:102:31:21

Nottingham selling herbal remedies,

then became the global empire of

2:31:212:31:28

today. The greatest example of

Christian whole person education in

2:31:282:31:31

British history was a Sunday School

Wesleyan Chapel in Birmingham. In

2:31:312:31:38

1874, it started a little sports

club to keep young men out of the

2:31:382:31:41

pubs on a Saturday. The idea was to

give them healthy in the spirit of

2:31:412:31:45

the chapel and healthy in mind and

body on the football field. The

2:31:452:31:52

greatest gift to mankind, my club

Aston Villa was born. Will the noble

2:31:522:31:57

ministers explain how the government

will encourage business to have a

2:31:572:32:00

warped whole person approach to the

activities? I think especially with

2:32:002:32:06

social media companies like Google

and Facebook, who make vast profits

2:32:062:32:09

and have such an influence on life.

This week, Prince William made a

2:32:092:32:15

speech at the children's summit in

Manchester. He highlighted the

2:32:152:32:20

problem of cyber bullying and called

on social media companies to be part

2:32:202:32:24

of the solution in combating online

harassment. As one of the patrons of

2:32:242:32:31

the foundation charity, I welcome

this. As the state has taken over

2:32:312:32:34

more and more about education, that

original whole person approach to

2:32:342:32:40

learning has been sacrificed

somewhat on the altar of results and

2:32:402:32:44

the obsession with university

degrees. The importance of spiritual

2:32:442:32:49

and emotional well-being has been

overshadowed. The recent race

2:32:492:32:53

disparity audit commissioned by the

Prime Minister confirmed that people

2:32:532:32:56

are treated differently in Britain

depended on their race. All I will

2:32:562:33:00

say about that is I do hope it leads

to action. The visible body is

2:33:002:33:06

obviously a vital part of the whole

person. Sport should be an important

2:33:062:33:12

element of every school curriculum,

so it's sad that over 100 schools

2:33:122:33:14

have sold the playing fields, and

that trend is still continuing. The

2:33:142:33:24

spit it is also part of the whole

person, creativity and imagination

2:33:242:33:28

nourish the spirit. For a number of

years, I was Chancellor of

2:33:282:33:32

Bournemouth University, which was a

centre of excellence for broadcast

2:33:322:33:36

media, having its own dedicated

media Centre. It was an honour for

2:33:362:33:41

me to speak on behalf of the then

government to the creative

2:33:412:33:45

industries conference. I emphasise

the need for the world of education

2:33:452:33:49

to work in partnership with business

and the creative industries. We have

2:33:492:33:52

additional skills gap in the

economy, costing billions of pounds

2:33:522:33:59

a year. I welcome the announcement

of new tier levels for 16 to

2:33:592:34:07

19-year-olds, which are technical

alternative to A-levels, focused on

2:34:072:34:11

practical skills. But we do have

problems with apprenticeships, which

2:34:112:34:15

have fallen by 69%, so I would like

the Minister to say how he's going

2:34:152:34:21

to address that problem. The

apprentice must have confidence that

2:34:212:34:24

at the end of their training, the

result will be the famous words,

2:34:242:34:29

you're hired, not, you are fired.

It's also important to point out

2:34:292:34:35

that education and the purpose of

life is the life of purpose. The

2:34:352:34:38

best education is where we are

learning how to live, not just

2:34:382:34:45

living to learn. As the American

educator Frederick Douglass said, it

2:34:452:34:53

is easier to build strong children

than repair broken men.

I would like

2:34:532:35:02

to thank the most Reverend Prime it

for introducing this debate today at

2:35:022:35:06

having listened to all the

contributions, I think what a

2:35:062:35:09

wonderful variety we are going to

have. I would like to reflect on

2:35:092:35:14

three things. Firstly, the role of

education, and in my case, with

2:35:142:35:18

reference to work and culture.

Secondly, speak about

2:35:182:35:23

apprenticeships. And thirdly,

enabling those with learning

2:35:232:35:27

difficulties to achieve their

potential. Having left school at 16

2:35:272:35:32

to study a one-year general farming

course in Northamptonshire, I'm only

2:35:322:35:37

too keenly aware of the enormous

changes that have taken place within

2:35:372:35:41

that farming industry. And yes,

unskilled Labour is still needed,

2:35:412:35:46

but the many changes we have seen

have been caused by the expansion of

2:35:462:35:50

modern machinery, of scientific

research, of technology, of

2:35:502:35:55

engineering, of improvements on

digital equipment, robotics and

2:35:552:36:02

indeed, on the development of

drones. These advances reflect the

2:36:022:36:07

skills of the workforce and the

dedication of teachers in schools

2:36:072:36:10

and colleges. Teachers have that

ability to inspire and challenge

2:36:102:36:17

pupils, and that this debate

reinforces that point. I only wish

2:36:172:36:23

that more teachers would encourage

students to consider agriculture as

2:36:232:36:27

a worthwhile career. The work done

at the Harbor University which was

2:36:272:36:38

formerly an agricultural college

this last year, gives a good

2:36:382:36:42

example. This last year has resulted

in them or me this week being

2:36:422:36:48

awarded the Queen 's anniversary for

the higher and further education

2:36:482:36:52

prize, recognising their hands-free

hectare initiative. They, walking

2:36:522:36:57

alongside Yorkshire -based Petitions

Decisions, cruelly crop of barley

2:36:572:37:05

using robotics and drones, nor

manpower being in the field at any

2:37:052:37:10

time, through the various

operations. Today, GPS systems and

2:37:102:37:16

drones can pinpoint the amount of

dressing needed at certain points of

2:37:162:37:19

the field and even help individual

plants. Secondly, I'd like to

2:37:192:37:26

congratulate the government on its

commitment to the apprenticeship

2:37:262:37:30

schemes, but like others, and

concerned about the falling numbers.

2:37:302:37:34

Because these schemes enable

students to gain skills while

2:37:342:37:38

working. The businesses that I have

visited value their apprentices,

2:37:382:37:44

speaking of their commitments to

gain skills, thus bringing benefits

2:37:442:37:48

to the company, but also to the

individual concerned. And I must

2:37:482:37:53

welcome the recent announcement in

the budget of the National

2:37:532:37:58

Retraining Scheme, which helps older

people to gain new skills necessary

2:37:582:38:03

for their enhancement and also for

the provision of some £384 million

2:38:032:38:07

to increase the number of fully

qualified computer science teachers.

2:38:072:38:13

I'm sorry my local friend Lord Baker

is not in his place at the moment,

2:38:132:38:16

because I think he would be very

pleased with that announcement.

2:38:162:38:21

Working alongside the new National

Centre For Computing, I think is

2:38:212:38:26

good news. My only concern is the

reported current decline in the

2:38:262:38:32

numbers taking up the

apprenticeships. I hope the Minister

2:38:322:38:35

will give an explanation and can

give some reassurance to us today.

2:38:352:38:43

Then surely right that we should

have the opportunity to achieve as

2:38:432:38:47

well if you have the challenges,

they may not become the high fliers

2:38:472:38:50

but with care, encouragement, scale

can offer high and important jobs in

2:38:502:38:56

future years. I know that some

special schools are coming under

2:38:562:39:00

increasing threat of closure and

indeed in Leicestershire, my home

2:39:002:39:06

county, one school which I

understand has recently reported as

2:39:062:39:10

outstanding may have its residential

element closed. I simply ask the

2:39:102:39:15

Minister whether there has been any

analysis review recently,

2:39:152:39:18

nationally. My Lords, in the time I

had, it is not impossible to include

2:39:182:39:26

something and very dare talk about

it at great length and that is the

2:39:262:39:30

importance of values which have been

spoken about by others. I hope

2:39:302:39:34

however that all those involved in

teaching and training will stress

2:39:342:39:38

the worth of long life learning. I

shoot say lifelong learning. I will

2:39:382:39:47

also add the operation of honesty in

what one is doing. Our present

2:39:472:39:52

system is based on Christian

beliefs. I believe it is deeply

2:39:522:39:59

important to day as it was when it

started and indeed other noble lords

2:39:592:40:03

have spoken about the importance of

coming and having support of loving

2:40:032:40:08

and supportive families. My Lords,

that is not for everyone. I read

2:40:082:40:15

when my husband was a local governor

of a primary school one of the

2:40:152:40:19

children was referred to the

headmaster and she sat in and was

2:40:192:40:23

trying to encourage the mother to

help with reading out of hours in

2:40:232:40:28

their own home to which this mother

turned round and said, that's not my

2:40:282:40:32

business comment your business to

teach my child. My Lords, I think in

2:40:322:40:38

some way we have gone a long way

away from having that support which

2:40:382:40:43

was there originally and I hope that

this debate will encourage everybody

2:40:432:40:49

to realise that it's not just about

education and learning but it is

2:40:492:40:53

about the values and the way which

we deal with each other and help

2:40:532:40:58

each other along the line that will

bring greater benefits to society as

2:40:582:41:03

a whole.

I would like to join in

thanking most warmly the honourable

2:41:032:41:12

member forum not only having given

us the opportunity for this vital

2:41:122:41:16

debate but for the very challenging

and thought-provoking way in which

2:41:162:41:20

it was introduced. I also would like

to put on record how moved I was by

2:41:202:41:29

the contribution. It had real

resonance for me because I went to

2:41:292:41:36

an independent school whereat the

time I was there, a third of the

2:41:362:41:39

boys were Jewish. I came to respect

deeply the Jewish culture and the

2:41:392:41:48

importance that it put on education.

And the importance it put on values.

2:41:482:41:53

I think the very important part of

my education in my formative years

2:41:532:41:59

was being at a school like that. I

might just say that this is why I

2:41:592:42:07

became so particularly profoundly

saddened by the policies of the

2:42:072:42:13

Israeli governments. My Lords, one

of the things that really worries me

2:42:132:42:21

in my old age is the confusion

between citizenship and consumerism.

2:42:212:42:27

I think it is a confusion that is

sometimes quite deliberately

2:42:272:42:30

fostered. I was discussing the issue

with my honourable friend and it

2:42:302:42:42

came up that there was never more

questions opportunity to express

2:42:422:42:47

yourself under consumerist culture

and I that is completely against the

2:42:472:42:51

point. They point up bout

citizenship is what should be the

2:42:512:42:55

question, not one of the things I

should put any questions put by

2:42:552:43:01

those who set them. -- set the test.

The other thing that I'm deeply

2:43:012:43:09

concerned about NI all the years is

the importance of the nature of

2:43:092:43:14

citizenship. -- concerned about in

my older years. I'm glad the point

2:43:142:43:23

was made about the global dimension

to this because of course one of the

2:43:232:43:28

things that children must understand

throughout the education is the

2:43:282:43:32

total interdependence of the global

community. The other thing I want to

2:43:322:43:38

mention in terms of my anxieties is

the confusion between the use of the

2:43:382:43:47

term education and the use of the

term vocational training. For a lot

2:43:472:43:53

of people, I don't think they really

make a distinction. There is a very

2:43:532:43:59

profound distinction because while

vocational training is vital and

2:43:592:44:05

that has been emphasised in this

debate, it is not education that is

2:44:052:44:11

necessary. Education is about the

whole person, it is about enabling

2:44:112:44:16

youngsters to become what they might

have been in every way. If I just

2:44:162:44:21

boot in ferry briefly in a

colloquial way, I would be happy in

2:44:212:44:26

the society when you try to fix the

leak and find yourself in a

2:44:262:44:39

conversation of the performance of a

Shakespeare play. -- put in a very

2:44:392:44:46

brief way. When we talk about

vocational training, what we are in

2:44:462:44:49

fact talking about is encouraging

thousands of our youngsters to not

2:44:492:44:58

have the opportunity to realise

their full potential as being but to

2:44:582:45:00

be prepared as useful contributors

to the society which Colin France.

2:45:002:45:09

-- which confronts. Another thing I

would like to speak about his mental

2:45:092:45:16

health. Schools are the fact to a

nerve centre for detecting mental

2:45:162:45:23

health. -- de facto. But also for a

child abuse and poverty where a

2:45:232:45:34

slice of the many schools take the

challenges very seriously and I

2:45:342:45:37

believe we should give them all

possible support. My Lords, I don't

2:45:372:45:44

think we should leave the debate

like this without facing up to some

2:45:442:45:51

of the underlying challenges in the

wider structural way in which our

2:45:512:45:56

education is provided. The problem

with cell activity is a divisive

2:45:562:46:01

pack -- the problem is cell activity

is a divisive factor. --

2:46:012:46:07

selectivity. I come from an

independent school but I'm the first

2:46:072:46:12

to realise that we don't speak about

social divisiveness of this too

2:46:122:46:22

often. We have to make sure children

do not monopolise the power

2:46:222:46:27

structures of society. We need to

face up to this question, the noble

2:46:272:46:34

lord made some very telling points

about partnerships as they are going

2:46:342:46:38

on and I'm sure he would agree that

it is a much more deeply challenging

2:46:382:46:43

issue than just this. It is also...

Selectivity, we have to look at in

2:46:432:46:52

our own educational system and if I

may say so, as somebody who is

2:46:522:46:58

really encouraged by the Right

Reverend's speech. I think there is

2:46:582:47:07

still a lot of work to do on this

because I detect that 70% of state

2:47:072:47:17

secondary schools still select. I

think I'm fair in saying that some

2:47:172:47:26

30% select most of their people on

religious counts. On any kind of

2:47:262:47:35

society we live, we have to look at

the implications of social

2:47:352:47:38

divisiveness in this and I say this

as a active member. And as someone

2:47:382:47:48

whose children and grandchildren

have all started education in church

2:47:482:47:50

schools. Why? Because we mustn't

stick with the dogma. They started

2:47:502:48:01

because they saw their parents --

their parents saw the liberal

2:48:012:48:07

education and all the ideas we were

talking about being particularly

2:48:072:48:09

well nurtured in church schools and

I think that is perhaps a paradox

2:48:092:48:15

but it's one that's real. Finally,

my last point is simply this. ABN

2:48:152:48:21

AMRO version clearly school

assemblies become divisive, to? --

2:48:212:48:26

do we let school assemblies? This

happens in the Church of Scotland in

2:48:262:48:37

Scotland by the human Society of

Scotland which has developed this

2:48:372:48:41

concept of a time for reflection

when to gather, the whole children,

2:48:412:48:50

whatever their background, can

reflect on common problems, common

2:48:502:48:53

values and begin to explore some of

the most sensitive, difficult

2:48:532:48:57

subjects that they are going to

face.

I, too, thank the Reverend

2:48:572:49:05

forum bringing forward this debate

and for naming the recently

2:49:052:49:09

established Church of England

foundation for educational

2:49:092:49:11

leadership of which I am privileged

to be a trustee. I am delighted that

2:49:112:49:18

we have 116 Church of England

schools, not single faith schools

2:49:182:49:23

but centres of community cohesion in

urban and rural areas committed to

2:49:232:49:28

offering each child the opportunity

to discover life in all its fullness

2:49:282:49:34

as spoken about by Jesus Christ. The

Church of England's vision for

2:49:342:49:39

education highlights the ideas of

wisdom, hope, dignity and community

2:49:392:49:44

and we aim to make our schools

places where fulfilling academic

2:49:442:49:50

potential is not separate from

spiritual, moral and social

2:49:502:49:56

development. Any brief amount of

time I have, I would like to focus

2:49:562:50:00

on three areas that are crucial to

children and young people

2:50:002:50:03

flourishing and thriving in

education. Firstly, preparation. In

2:50:032:50:11

94 local authorities, almost one

third of the country, less than half

2:50:112:50:15

of all disadvantaged five-year-olds

are development ready mentally for

2:50:152:50:22

school. As said already, early

intervention has a marked impact on

2:50:222:50:28

a child's life prospects and without

help and support, we cannot expect

2:50:282:50:32

children to show up at school ready

to go. Children are -- faith groups

2:50:322:50:40

across the country do men's jobs of

running parent and toddler groups

2:50:402:50:44

and programmes which support very

young children and their parents

2:50:442:50:47

however partnership and

collaboration with local and central

2:50:472:50:49

governments is required. More than

400 children's centres have closed

2:50:492:50:56

since 2010 and the life chances

strategy promised by the previous

2:50:562:51:03

Prime Minister was dropped in

December 20 16. Surely a vision for

2:51:032:51:08

giving children the best possible

start in life is a necessity.

2:51:082:51:14

Secondly, we must remove barriers to

children flourishing as has already

2:51:142:51:18

been mentioned in this debate, there

are many. Let me underline just

2:51:182:51:21

eight few of which the first is

poverty. -- just a few. The

2:51:212:51:31

Children's Society led a commission

on poverty and since the publication

2:51:312:51:34

of a report, there has been work

with Church of England schools to

2:51:342:51:39

poverty prove the school week. That

includes such things as ensuring

2:51:392:51:48

school uniforms are affordable,

transport is accessible and that

2:51:482:51:51

there is no stigma attached to

claiming a free school meals. Then

2:51:512:51:54

there is the need to remove barriers

to helping children with physical

2:51:542:52:00

and learning disabilities flourish,

not least when it comes to further

2:52:002:52:03

education is moving into adult food.

In Gloucestershire, we're lucky to

2:52:032:52:07

have a college for young adults of

complex disabilities and learning

2:52:072:52:11

difficulties but to access such

thing, you need an education health

2:52:112:52:19

and care plan. In 2016, local

authorities turned down nearly

2:52:192:52:24

15,000 requests for such a plan.

Last year, National Star College

2:52:242:52:31

supported 11 students who went to

tribunal to obtain funding and ten

2:52:312:52:37

were settled just before the

hearings were held and often months

2:52:372:52:43

after the beginning of the academic

year. The parents of those children

2:52:432:52:47

had stamina and a good education but

what about the others? A number of

2:52:472:52:55

noble lords have spoken already

about the barriers due to mental

2:52:552:52:58

health and I wish to endorse all

that has been said. I would also

2:52:582:53:03

like to endorse what has been said

about school exclusion. We know that

2:53:032:53:07

children excluded from school are

ten times more likely to suffer

2:53:072:53:10

recognised mental health problems.

Only 1% of excluded children get

2:53:102:53:18

five good GCSEss and the number of

children permanently excluded has

2:53:182:53:23

risen 40% in the last four years. In

my own diocese, Gloucestershire has

2:53:232:53:29

the highest rate of school exclusion

any south-west. We need to find

2:53:292:53:34

effective mechanisms to help

disadvantaged children stay and

2:53:342:53:38

thrive in school. As part of that, I

believe we need our schools to be

2:53:382:53:43

trauma informed. There was no time

to go now into the detail of our

2:53:432:53:46

childhood experiences, ten traumatic

events which can occur before the

2:53:462:53:54

age of 18. But focusing on these and

working with a child's story about

2:53:542:53:58

what has happened to them rather

than presenting behaviour is shown

2:53:582:54:03

to be effective in bringing about

positive change.

2:54:032:54:09

I would like to see this approach

encouraged by local and central

2:54:092:54:14

government. It's about the values of

dignity and hope. Finally, I want to

2:54:142:54:18

say something about relationship,

which I believe his quarter of what

2:54:182:54:22

it means for us to be human and made

in the image of God. My ongoing

2:54:222:54:27

visits to schools remind me that we

have much to do to make sure that

2:54:272:54:31

education not only recognises and

affirms the dignity and value of

2:54:312:54:35

each child and a person, but that it

enables them to appreciate and

2:54:352:54:49

value each other, including those

who are different from themselves.

2:54:552:54:57

Just in the past two weeks, I

visited a primary school, a

2:54:572:55:00

secondary school and college, where

I have engaged in conversation with

2:55:002:55:02

children and young people about body

image and not taking our value from

2:55:022:55:04

physical appearance, so often

promoted by social media. Those

2:55:042:55:06

conversations with those young

people have led to conversations

2:55:062:55:08

about what they value in each other,

which is more than simply pressing a

2:55:082:55:12

lake on a social media platform. The

response from butcher people has

2:55:122:55:16

been rewarding and poignant, as they

have affirmed one another in who

2:55:162:55:19

they are and how they are different

from one another. Our workplaces of

2:55:192:55:26

education shaped and reflect the

society we live in. For children to

2:55:262:55:30

flourish as adults, they must be

enabled to flourish in their

2:55:302:55:34

education. By investing in early

years, by including the

2:55:342:55:39

disadvantaged and by building

communities of good relationship in

2:55:392:55:44

schools, colleges and universities,

we can use education to shape a

2:55:442:55:48

flourishing society.

I would first

like to thank the archbishop for

2:55:482:55:58

opening this debate. He compared

himself to the John Lewis advert,

2:55:582:56:03

looked forward to, shall we say,

looked forward to very much here,

2:56:032:56:08

maybe a wider audience should know

about this and maybe more people

2:56:082:56:12

should tune in. But very much look

forward to hear. Also, he started

2:56:122:56:19

off with commenting about a big

picture and division, which I think

2:56:192:56:23

it's very important. And others have

commented with their visions which

2:56:232:56:27

have disagreed or agreed, but mainly

overlapped. The fact that we have a

2:56:272:56:32

grand vision or strategy for

education. I will be concentrating

2:56:322:56:38

in my few remarks on a feud tactical

issues or practical issues for

2:56:382:56:45

specific groups. Many people here

will probably be getting that I'm

2:56:452:56:49

going to talk about dyslexia and

special educational needs, and I've

2:56:492:56:53

referred the house to my interest in

these fields, but also how this

2:56:532:56:57

group, this large group, actually,

if you get it wrong, the chain of

2:56:572:57:05

events and commands, what's going

through, doesn't work. And to start

2:57:052:57:09

by looking at a couple of things in

the education system, and I have

2:57:092:57:14

given the Minister warning that I

was going to ask these questions.

2:57:142:57:20

How are we doing about making sure

that our teaching profession is

2:57:202:57:25

better prepared to handle these

diverse groups, who have different

2:57:252:57:29

learning patterns? Which means that

when they get into the classroom,

2:57:292:57:34

the way you are teaching the

mainstream, the efficient,

2:57:342:57:38

established, traditional ways of

teaching them, don't work for these

2:57:382:57:40

groups. Dyslexia is about 10%, you

then have cooccurrence with other

2:57:402:57:49

groups like dyspraxia, muscle

control. Do teachers know how to

2:57:492:57:55

tell if someone isn't spelling

something correctly because they

2:57:552:57:57

cannot hold a pen any longer because

they don't understand what the

2:57:572:58:01

symbols mean? Those are very

difficult skills to have

2:58:012:58:06

established. When it comes to

dyscalculia, is somebody not knowing

2:58:062:58:12

their mathematical targets in front

of them because they cannot remember

2:58:122:58:15

the equation? Dyslexic Rob Lumb, or

a dyscalculia who doesn't understand

2:58:152:58:23

the problems of numbers. You're

asking a lot of somebody there. We

2:58:232:58:30

have had recent changes to education

and it was, if I have scribbled it

2:58:302:58:34

down correctly, contents of initial

teacher training that was published

2:58:342:58:38

last year. A dry document, but very

importantly, in this, we had a

2:58:382:58:44

commitment that people should have

some better knowledge in this

2:58:442:58:46

training. How far has this been

developed? How have fired as it

2:58:462:58:53

ingrained, how is it going? If we

only rely on initial teacher

2:58:532:58:57

training, we will have a properly

educated teacher training workforce

2:58:572:59:03

within two decades. Two decades

away. Lord Birt made a very

2:59:032:59:10

important point. Failure is

incredibly expensive. At all levels.

2:59:102:59:16

Failure, not only in the school

system, but the job market, you are

2:59:162:59:22

underemployed afterwords are

unemployed. The most we can get in

2:59:222:59:24

there, what are we doing? How are we

driving this on? So what is

2:59:242:59:30

happening with continual

professional development to back up

2:59:302:59:33

their initial teacher training? That

is important, because without this,

2:59:332:59:37

you are not going to get through and

get the people into position, where

2:59:372:59:41

they can actually benefit from any

type of education. To move slightly

2:59:412:59:47

on through the educational progress

to further education, we have got an

2:59:472:59:53

interesting situation, and when it

comes to apprenticeships. I have

2:59:532:59:57

form when it comes to

apprenticeships and dyslexia. Many

2:59:573:00:01

people here will be wincing, not bat

again. My noble friend laughs and

3:00:013:00:09

well she might. We managed to

establish, after many years, after

3:00:093:00:14

an initial unintended consequences,

when we had an apprenticeship at all

3:00:143:00:24

and said everyone should have

English and maths. Asked at the

3:00:243:00:27

time, you're not going to make every

dyslexic pass an English paper? Of

3:00:273:00:32

course we want. When the bill was

enacted, that is exactly what

3:00:323:00:35

happened. People failed. It took a

long time and it wasn't until 2014,

3:00:353:00:43

when the Children And Families Act

got it changed. You are asking why

3:00:433:00:47

am raising it again. Because the new

guidelines for apprenticeships as

3:00:473:00:51

saying that only those who have the

education and health care plan or

3:00:513:00:56

the old statement, are going to get

help. To refer you to the first part

3:00:563:01:01

of what I was saying, it is an

established fact within the

3:01:013:01:05

education system that most people

who have got hidden education

3:01:053:01:10

problems, dyslexia, dyspraxia, you

name it, they are not severe enough

3:01:103:01:16

to get a planner statement. The vast

majority of this group will not be

3:01:163:01:19

covered by this and they are the

only group who apparently are going

3:01:193:01:22

to be helped. You have once again

guaranteed failure. This is where

3:01:223:01:31

the clock up School of history comes

to mind. Are we actually going to

3:01:313:01:34

enforce and bring in something else

that means you're not going to help?

3:01:343:01:38

Even if you have the correct

training until this point, it isn't

3:01:383:01:41

just a case of work harder, your

brain is differently constructed.

3:01:413:01:48

New loans don't connect together.

You can't do this. You can improve

3:01:483:01:53

it, you will never remove it. If we

insist on having this very high

3:01:533:01:58

level of identification, which

schools resist, because it affects

3:01:583:02:00

their budgets, and generally,

middle-class parents, the tiger

3:02:003:02:06

print tears soon get the

identification, we're guaranteeing

3:02:063:02:09

that those groups at the lowest

level of attainment and the highest

3:02:093:02:15

level of failure, will once again be

punished. This cannot be right. Can

3:02:153:02:20

the Minister give me some assurance

that better forms of identification

3:02:203:02:26

will actually be addressed? You

suddenly have a situation where

3:02:263:02:31

clearly further education and

mainstream school education are not

3:02:313:02:37

talking to each other. And I don't

know which one is breaking more of

3:02:373:02:44

the Equality Act, but there are

definitely doing it. Because you've

3:02:443:02:47

got somebody with the problem down

there that isn't being addressed. I

3:02:473:02:51

could go on to one or two of the

problems and hired education. But I

3:02:513:02:55

have run out of time and we have a

question coming up next Thursday.

3:02:553:03:00

Seats are available, I still feel.

But can the Minister give me an

3:03:003:03:06

assurance that this problem will be

addressed? This one about the

3:03:063:03:12

apprenticeships, because if he

hasn't, we will go back to square

3:03:123:03:15

one. Maybe not one, but one a at

least.

I am not quite sure I will be

3:03:153:03:23

able to follow him down his road,

but I would like to refer to Lady

3:03:233:03:36

McIntosh's debts to the Bible. I

share that debt, particularly, I

3:03:363:03:40

think, to the old Testament, and I

would add to that Shakespeare,

3:03:403:03:48

wiping, a dash of Freud and probably

one knows as much about human nature

3:03:483:03:55

as you are likely to learn. The Most

Noble Primates was encouraging us to

3:03:553:04:06

find foundations, to look for their

basis upon which we make our

3:04:063:04:11

enduring progress and to find it.

And also, whilst doing that, to make

3:04:113:04:22

sure that we carry our values with

us. And this is indeed a very deep

3:04:223:04:31

search, in order that people shall

achieve the fullest life that is

3:04:313:04:37

available to them. And he urged us

to reject utilitarianism. I am

3:04:373:04:48

rereading Dickens, and I have just

read Hard Times. Mr Gradgrind was

3:04:483:04:56

completely pinned down by

utilitarianism, and the mess that

3:04:563:05:01

was made of his two older children,

one, a girl, and one, a boy, takes a

3:05:013:05:09

bit of reading. In fact, I

thoroughly recommend it, if you want

3:05:093:05:12

to study the failure of education.

And I think when we are troubled by

3:05:123:05:22

what is happening now, we should

just remember that things are a lot

3:05:223:05:25

better than they were then in the

1850s and 1860s. It was a model. It

3:05:253:05:33

remains a muddle. But the question

is, how are we coping? The

3:05:333:05:40

conclusion of this debate so far is

that too many people are not coping,

3:05:403:05:45

and so again, I look for a

foundation. And one of them to me is

3:05:453:05:50

that everybody is on a journey of

their own, and when we think about

3:05:503:05:57

what is happening to them, we need

to remember their individuality, not

3:05:573:06:02

to take it too far, but remembered

it. And to remember that the word

3:06:023:06:08

education comes from a Latin word

which means to draw out. I think

3:06:083:06:16

that what we are on in this journey

is that, with parents, with

3:06:163:06:20

teachers, with friends, with

colleagues, we are asking the

3:06:203:06:25

question at the beginning, who is

this individual? And the individual

3:06:253:06:33

comes after a short period to ask

the question, who am I? And then we

3:06:333:06:40

continue the dialogue with the

debate about, if that's who you

3:06:403:06:45

think you are, who are you? And so

people discover themselves. And

3:06:453:06:50

while schools play a very important

part in this process, it is only a

3:06:503:06:56

part, and I do believe we should

remember that very strongly. That it

3:06:563:07:01

is only a part. And the society we

get will result from these

3:07:013:07:10

dialogues, as individuals find their

way on the journey. Which is in

3:07:103:07:16

preparation for them to be able to

recognise the opportunities and the

3:07:163:07:21

threats, to come to see who we are

and to come to see what we can and

3:07:213:07:27

what we cannot do, so that we are

able to make the judgments and the

3:07:273:07:33

choices which face us. And a second

foundation, which has been much

3:07:333:07:42

referred to, is lifelong education.

Perhaps I would describe that as

3:07:423:07:48

getting through a long life. And in

doing that, we can only do our best

3:07:483:07:57

to cope, particularly with change.

To continue to find what we now, to

3:07:573:08:06

continue to find what we don't know

and to continue to recognise that

3:08:063:08:12

there are many things that we don't

know, that we don't know and that

3:08:123:08:17

last big circle of the unknown is

constantly increasing. I think my

3:08:173:08:27

final illustration of that change is

that a boy in Hartford aged 19

3:08:273:08:35

started writing programmes and 13

years later, it's Facebook and all

3:08:353:08:46

Facebook's subsidiaries. That, to

somebody who has great

3:08:463:08:53

grandchildren, is a fairly shattered

and thought, that that can be done

3:08:533:08:56

and can have the effect that it's

having, with 2 billion users.

3:08:563:09:04

Established in 13 years, which is

not much more than half a

3:09:043:09:09

generation. And also to reflect that

in my village in North Yorkshire, on

3:09:093:09:17

the agenda, that is an item called

drones. Drones are of great

3:09:173:09:23

importance around the village of

Malton.

3:09:233:09:29

If they're below was a time to look

for and find foundations, it must be

3:09:293:09:34

now. -- if ever there was. We must

continue our search.

When the

3:09:343:09:46

Reverend introduced to eloquently

our debate this afternoon, now this

3:09:463:09:52

afternoon, he referred rightly to

the role of the church and the

3:09:523:09:59

members of the church in developing

towards universal education in

3:09:593:10:06

England any 19th-century. I am of

course particularly proud that in

3:10:063:10:13

Scotland we were taking these steps

in the 17th century with the first

3:10:133:10:18

legislation for a school in every

parish. One of the reasons why in

3:10:183:10:23

the union of 1707, education and the

relative autonomy of Scottish

3:10:233:10:29

education was preserved as part of

the agreements of that time. Partly

3:10:293:10:35

for that reason, I have not spoken

often about education in the chamber

3:10:353:10:40

was rightly nowadays Scottish

education is in the remit or the

3:10:403:10:45

autonomous Scottish Parliament but I

do think there are some issues in

3:10:453:10:50

education across borders and I'm

delighted to have the opportunity to

3:10:503:10:53

have referred to some of them to

day. Are you prepare your Lordship's

3:10:533:11:00

chamber tonight entry in the

register which perhaps

3:11:003:11:03

understandably reflects my lifelong

passion and interest in education.

3:11:033:11:09

And some of my current interests.

The primary school teacher I had the

3:11:093:11:15

age of seven can remember me saying

I wanted to become a sums teacher

3:11:153:11:21

and with a view changes and what

particular subject might have been

3:11:213:11:25

chosen in the decade or so that

followed, I did become a mathematics

3:11:253:11:30

teacher and enjoyed a profession

very much for a decade before

3:11:303:11:36

becoming a full-time employed in

politics. And I have always had a

3:11:363:11:41

passion for teaching but oh -- also

for the profession of teaching in

3:11:413:11:48

teachers and their importance in the

classroom. Very few of us can

3:11:483:11:51

remember individual pieces of

algebra or even actually individual,

3:11:513:11:58

in detail, cultural experiences we

had at that age about all of us can

3:11:583:12:02

remember the good teacher and the

bad teacher that have an impact on

3:12:023:12:06

us as individuals in our school

days. No matter what level people's

3:12:063:12:12

education has gone to order matter

what course in life they have

3:12:123:12:15

chosen, there will have been a

teacher, good or bad, that had an

3:12:153:12:20

impact on them, either inspiring

them demoralising them. The role of

3:12:203:12:24

individual teachers should never be

have forgotten by education

3:12:243:12:29

policymakers and governance. Debates

about funding, curriculum and policy

3:12:293:12:33

will come and go but ultimately the

person delivers that education in

3:12:333:12:38

the classroom is absolutely central

for the inspiring of every

3:12:383:12:41

generation. The second point I want

to make it about colleges. A lot of

3:12:413:12:49

reference to day about the training

and vocational education and so on.

3:12:493:12:54

I remain astonished at the amount of

time we spend in this country

3:12:543:12:59

debating the situation in our

universities and the lack of

3:12:593:13:02

reference in our media and public

debate to the situation in our

3:13:023:13:07

colleges in the wider sense of that

further and nonuniversity, higher

3:13:073:13:13

education. Debates about university

principals' salaries, debates about

3:13:133:13:19

fees, grants for students and access

to universities for people from

3:13:193:13:23

different walks of life, debates

about buildings, the global reach of

3:13:233:13:27

our universities, the subject they

teach colony nature and purpose of

3:13:273:13:30

universities but never a debate

about our colleges. Those colleges

3:13:303:13:36

are fundamental to the young people

and the lifelong learners that have

3:13:363:13:39

been mentioned in this debate to

day. Those colleges that are

3:13:393:13:45

fundamental to a section of the

population that made them much more

3:13:453:13:47

in many ways than those who will go

to university. Debates about those

3:13:473:13:51

colleges never seem to need to take

place and I regret that Adobe can

3:13:513:13:56

have debates like we have two day

and start to rectify that situation.

3:13:563:14:01

-- I regret that we do not have

those debates. It is a shame in all

3:14:013:14:08

four nations of this country that

those children that are looked after

3:14:083:14:14

by the state continued to this they

in the 21st century too happy with

3:14:143:14:19

educational opportunities and the

worst educational outcomes. That

3:14:193:14:22

should shame all of us and we need

to continue to for innovative and

3:14:223:14:26

imaginative solutions that give

those on children in the care of the

3:14:263:14:29

state in any sense the opportunities

at least as good as others have. I

3:14:293:14:39

would just refer the noble lords,

the minister, and his department to

3:14:393:14:42

what they may not be aware of

because it is in Scotland but there

3:14:423:14:45

is some phenomenal work going on

right now by a charity called MCR

3:14:453:14:53

Pathways that has transformed the

way children are taught in schools

3:14:533:15:01

and that may be taking on to a

national level, that is based on

3:15:013:15:04

mentoring of the flute after

children, volunteer mentoring in the

3:15:043:15:07

community which I think has had

quite dramatic effects. The final

3:15:073:15:11

point I want to make is to go beyond

our borders. Education is important

3:15:113:15:15

here but it is even more important

elsewhere. There are 263 million

3:15:153:15:21

girls and boys around the world not

in school. Two thirds of them live

3:15:213:15:27

in fragile and conflict affected

states. And yet we know, we have too

3:15:273:15:35

no, we have to understand that

education matters more in these

3:15:353:15:38

places than in any other

intervention can possibly matter.

3:15:383:15:44

Education transforms lives, it

provides the opportunity, the

3:15:443:15:48

confidence, the skills to start

work, start businesses, it improves

3:15:483:15:53

agricultural outputs, improves the

health outcomes of individuals and

3:15:533:16:00

of nations. For girls, it helps them

avoid child marriage and all sorts

3:16:003:16:04

of other abuses and it develops

responsible citizens who can hold

3:16:043:16:09

corrupt governments to account and

developed democracies and governance

3:16:093:16:13

in the capacity of public

institutions. Yet in this country,

3:16:133:16:15

the only allocate 7.17% of our

overseas development assistance to

3:16:153:16:23

education. I think that figure

should be much, much higher and I

3:16:233:16:27

hope that the governments in its

ongoing customer reviews of how best

3:16:273:16:31

to spend its ODA will look again at

the level it is currently spending

3:16:313:16:38

on education. In particular, there

is a decision due in January for UK

3:16:383:16:43

contribution to the global

partnership on education, Maya is

3:16:433:16:46

spent in fragile conflict affected

and very underdeveloped states where

3:16:463:16:52

the UK's contribution was previously

the other million pounds and that is

3:16:523:16:55

to review. Bat up for review. I hope

we will not only sustain that

3:16:553:17:01

contribution but hopefully increase

it. I met a young girl, I'm just

3:17:013:17:04

finishing this point as I'm

conscious of my time, in a refugee

3:17:043:17:07

camp in Iraq 18 months ago who had

enjoyed all kinds of horrors for

3:17:073:17:14

three years. -- endured all kinds of

horrors for three years in a refugee

3:17:143:17:21

camp and she spoke to me about that

experience. The only time she cried

3:17:213:17:24

was running at how her exam results

were at school. -- when I asked her.

3:17:243:17:32

Her to the future was that her

school performance has been affected

3:17:323:17:36

by living in the camp, an indication

of just how much education matters

3:17:363:17:40

for those who need it most and I

hope that in summation, about the

3:17:403:17:45

noble lord, the Minister, and other

people will be able to reflect on

3:17:453:17:49

the global as well as the national

situation.

It is a privilege to

3:17:493:17:54

offer a view brief comments from the

perspective of an academic

3:17:543:17:57

scientists. Today's young people

will live in a world ever more

3:17:573:18:04

dependent on technology, ever more

vulnerable to its failures and

3:18:043:18:07

misdirection. Choices on how science

is applied and not just for

3:18:073:18:14

scientists to make but for wider

democratic debate to rise above

3:18:143:18:19

sloganising, all citizens need

enough feel for science and maths,

3:18:193:18:23

to prevent them being bamboozled by

propaganda or over deferential to

3:18:233:18:26

experts. It is sad that so many

don't. Particularly regrettable that

3:18:263:18:32

many people don't know the nation's

history, can't speak a second

3:18:323:18:37

language, can't find North Korea or

Syria on a map of course. Like

3:18:373:18:43

history and literature, science is

part of human culture. More than

3:18:433:18:48

that, if the one culture that is

truly global, protons, proteins and

3:18:483:18:53

Pythagoras are the same from China

to prove and shall transcend all

3:18:533:19:00

boundaries of nationality and faith.

-- from China to Peru. But things

3:19:003:19:07

are changing. IT and the web offers

huge benefits but I think earlier

3:19:073:19:10

generations had one advantage. When

they were young, we could take apart

3:19:103:19:17

a clock, a radio set or a motorbike,

figure out how it worked and

3:19:173:19:23

reassemble it. That is how many of

us got pooped on science. In

3:19:233:19:28

contrast, the gadgets that now

pervade our lives, smartphones and

3:19:283:19:34

suchlike are battling black boxes.

Even if you take apart, you will

3:19:343:19:37

find few clues to their mechanisms.

The extremes of this nation of

3:19:373:19:44

modern technology is ironically an

impediment to engaging young people

3:19:443:19:49

with real reality. With learning how

things work. Likewise, town dwellers

3:19:493:19:56

are increasingly distanced from the

natural world. Many urban children

3:19:563:20:01

never see a dark sky or a bird's

nest. The UK is a laggard in

3:20:013:20:08

educational attainment is at the

secondary school age as many

3:20:083:20:14

speakers have emphasised and as

special urgency to enhance provision

3:20:143:20:17

for the disadvantaged majority. But

in higher education, too, we need to

3:20:173:20:24

have a more diverse the quality than

universities. As a university

3:20:243:20:32

teacher, I'm aware that our

traditional honours degree is too

3:20:323:20:36

specialised for almost all students.

Even worse, so is the school

3:20:363:20:39

curriculum. The campaign for 16-18

-year-old has been impeded by

3:20:393:20:48

universities. The entrance

requirements over the disfavour

3:20:483:20:56

applicants who straddle sign

sexualities. Incidentally, as a

3:20:563:21:01

digression, I would like to order a

prominent -- science and

3:21:013:21:06

technologies. Lord Habgood, former

Bishop of York. Physiologist by

3:21:063:21:12

education. He spoke at a British

science Association meeting, under

3:21:123:21:21

the heading monkeys may have souls,

says Primate. We fetishise the

3:21:213:21:31

special value of three years

full-time study. An American will

3:21:313:21:36

say I had two years of college as a

positive experience. Regarding the

3:21:363:21:42

college credits, even if they are

not sufficient for graduation, as a

3:21:423:21:48

good qualification. It is surely

better for colleges to take risks on

3:21:483:21:55

admission, give students a chance

and then let some leave after two

3:21:553:21:58

years with a credit, without

necessarily being typecast as

3:21:583:22:02

failures or wastage. Some would

return later, continue part-time,

3:22:023:22:08

others may pursue distance learning.

I hope the Minister will offer some

3:22:083:22:14

comments on how to encourage

transferable credits. As Lord Givens

3:22:143:22:21

told ours, distance learning may be

placed the sort of university but it

3:22:213:22:27

will never replicate the experience

of attending a collegiate type

3:22:273:22:31

university. So I think there will be

a deepening by between one hand

3:22:313:22:40

universities and institutions that

offer expert tuition with analogues

3:22:403:22:48

of other colleges on the one hand,

and on the other, the open

3:22:483:22:53

University model. However, those who

aspire to a selective residential

3:22:533:23:04

university are disadvantaged in the

schooling. They won't get over the

3:23:043:23:09

bar at 18 and they now have no

second chance. That is why I think

3:23:093:23:13

it would send an encouraging signal

if Oxbridge in particular to

3:23:133:23:18

preserve a fraction of its places

for students who don't come straight

3:23:183:23:22

from school but have earned credits

online or via the open University.

3:23:223:23:31

Finally, a word about another

damaging preconception which has the

3:23:313:23:37

Devil British education and policy

for decades. A snobbish

3:23:373:23:45

disparagement of technology. My

engineering friends like an old

3:23:453:23:51

cartoon, this cartoon shows to

Beavers looking up at a

3:23:513:23:57

hydroelectric dam, one says to the

other, I did not actually built it

3:23:573:24:01

but it's based on my idea. And that

is honestly in contrast to the

3:24:013:24:09

difference between the real and the

perceived balance between science

3:24:093:24:15

and technology.

3:24:153:24:19

But we all need to be guided by

values that a good school can

3:24:193:24:29

instill. So we should welcome the

leadership of the prelate in

3:24:293:24:34

introducing this debate.

My lords, I

thank the most Reverend primate for

3:24:343:24:43

calling this debate. I was struck by

one word in the debate title -

3:24:433:24:49

flourishing. This is about more than

acquiring a skill set or gaining

3:24:493:24:54

knowledge of the world. It is about

unlocking human potential. This is

3:24:543:24:59

the bench mark we must set

ourselves, rooting in the capability

3:24:593:25:04

of the individual. ForAristotle, it

is the key to happiness. If your

3:25:043:25:16

education system does not allow

individuals to flourish, then it is

3:25:163:25:19

failing and over the years it has

fallen short. Let us take a moment

3:25:193:25:30

to process what this means. It means

money and wealth were contributors

3:25:303:25:37

to helping students flourish. Those

without would not reach their

3:25:373:25:42

potential. Not only it is entrench

inequality, it meant as a country we

3:25:423:25:48

could not reach our potential. I was

one of lucky ones. At a time when

3:25:483:25:53

too few Welsh students applied to

top universities, my comprehensive

3:25:533:25:59

was an outlying, getting regularly

10 to 15 pupils a year into

3:25:593:26:04

Oxbridge. This was down to

outstanding teachers who believed

3:26:043:26:09

their pupils were as good as anyone

else. They did raise our level of

3:26:093:26:18

aspiration. I was lucky. But we must

look beyond a few great teachers at

3:26:183:26:25

one school and work how to

institutionalise this philosophy.

3:26:253:26:29

One advantage we have is the access

to data and technology. This access

3:26:293:26:36

means we can assess teaching

approaches and educational

3:26:363:26:41

technology rigorously and on a

global scale. We do not have to

3:26:413:26:45

compare teaching ideologies and

philosophies and pick one by setting

3:26:453:26:50

them against our political creed. We

can look at what works. Take phonics

3:26:503:26:56

as an example of following the

evidence. Michael Gove mandated its

3:26:563:27:04

use in the teaching of reading to

combat the gap between the highest

3:27:043:27:10

and lowest achievers. He had to

fight off opposition from professors

3:27:103:27:18

and unions, but pressed on,

encouraged by the thousands of

3:27:183:27:22

teachers who had supported this

method of teaching children to read.

3:27:223:27:27

The emerging evidence is that

phonics is particularly effective at

3:27:273:27:32

helping the least able and we should

thank the teachers who have embraced

3:27:323:27:36

this. What better example of catch

helping not just the wealthy to

3:27:363:27:48

reach their potential. We need to be

clear that this is not about

3:27:483:27:53

equality for quality's sake. My

teachers in Swansea did not enable

3:27:533:27:56

me and my colleague to get into

Oxbridge by persuading colleges to

3:27:563:28:02

lower their standard, but rather for

us to raise our. It is the role of

3:28:023:28:08

education to allow us to flourish to

our potential. My family history

3:28:083:28:17

reinforces this. My father's family

left communist Czechoslovakia. Later

3:28:173:28:26

he came a professor at the

international Swiss business school.

3:28:263:28:30

He was a beneficiary of education's

role in helping us to flourish. But

3:28:303:28:35

we should reflect on the world he

escaped. Communism doesn't recognise

3:28:353:28:44

individuals, it is subsumed into the

state and individual freedom is

3:28:443:28:50

extinguished with brutal

consequences. We should use the

3:28:503:28:54

passing of the anniversary of

Russian revolution, not to

3:28:543:29:00

romanticise, but to remind ourselves

of the importance of liberty and

3:29:003:29:05

returning to the topic of today, the

role our education system can play

3:29:053:29:09

in bring it about.

It is always a

pleasure to follow Baroness Finn and

3:29:093:29:20

to hear her story. It is always a

pleasure to be at a debate that was

3:29:203:29:25

initiated by the most reverent

primate and his speech was very

3:29:253:29:30

fine. I think that the debate that's

followed has been an excellent one

3:29:303:29:34

in every respect. I did look up in

the library briefing the definition

3:29:343:29:42

of character and I fear that I

thought initially that the character

3:29:423:29:47

definition was relating to the

headmaster of the minister's school

3:29:473:29:52

many years ago, Dr Arnold of rugby.

When I heard Lord Griffiths

3:29:523:30:01

explaining in much more detail what

character meant that I agreed with

3:30:013:30:06

him and what underpinned this

debate. It is about education for

3:30:063:30:10

the fullness of life. It is of

course about education for civic

3:30:103:30:16

responsibilities, as my noble friend

referred to. Teaching about

3:30:163:30:19

democracy. And I spend 17 years

teaching myself, politics and

3:30:193:30:25

government and issues like that. But

it is also about educating for

3:30:253:30:30

happiness and it seeps to me that is

-- seems to me that done

3:30:303:30:36

particularly well by church schools.

To which I refer to the schools that

3:30:363:30:41

my noble friend and I went to

Catholic primary schools in a small

3:30:413:30:47

Welsh mining village and to Anglican

schools in Wales and in England too.

3:30:473:30:52

And when you look at the figures,

that one third I think it is of all

3:30:523:31:03

pupils go to church schools and 98%

of those schools are Church of

3:31:033:31:11

England or Anglican or Catholic. The

church I'm glad to say work well

3:31:113:31:21

together in putting a case to the

Government. Particularly to the

3:31:213:31:24

minister who is the faith schools

minister, as part of education team.

3:31:243:31:31

Catholic schools for example, as do

Anglican schools, provide education

3:31:313:31:36

for deprived areas. If your

Lordships do as I occasionally done

3:31:363:31:42

catch the 185 bus from Victoria, you

pass through very deprived areas of

3:31:423:31:48

South London. And as that bus goes

through, there are three schools

3:31:483:31:53

serving that community. Two of them

are Church of England schools and

3:31:533:31:56

the other one is a Catholic school.

And it does prove the point that the

3:31:563:32:03

churches put a huge amount of

importance on the need to ensure

3:32:033:32:08

that they do reach out into our

inner cities and to our deprived

3:32:083:32:12

areas. For example as for as

Catholic schools, 18% of pupils come

3:32:123:32:18

from the poorest background. That is

compared to 6% more than in the

3:32:183:32:23

national average. 35% from ethnic

minority backgrounds. The other

3:32:233:32:28

issue which the most reverent

primate and other speakers have

3:32:283:32:33

emphasised is the importance of

church schools having people who do

3:32:333:32:40

not necessarily believe necessarily

in that denom nation to attend them.

3:32:403:32:46

Many people want their children go

to church schools because of the

3:32:463:32:52

ethos of the school and one in three

of all pupils in Catholic schools

3:32:523:32:57

are not Catholics. That is a good

thing. The school to which I

3:32:573:33:03

referred to in Wales, my

grandparents on my mother's

3:33:033:33:11

Protestant side and father's

Catholic side went to that school,

3:33:113:33:14

because it was the only school in

the village at the time. So it is

3:33:143:33:21

not new. I want to finish on another

issue. The Catholic church has

3:33:213:33:39

declined to build any new free or

Academy schools as long as the cap

3:33:393:33:43

is there. Partly because in areas of

large Catholic populations,

3:33:433:33:50

Catholics could be denied entry to

the school, because they have failed

3:33:503:33:54

the 50%. I understand that the

minister's boss, the Prime Minister,

3:33:543:33:59

back in September 2016 said this,

the rule is failing in its objective

3:33:593:34:04

to promote integration and we will

remove it. And then his Conservative

3:34:043:34:11

manifesto called the rule unfair and

ineffective and should be removed.

3:34:113:34:16

Now, I hope that the minister in

reply will be able to tell us that

3:34:163:34:20

there is some movement in this and

after months of consultation

3:34:203:34:26

churches can decide for themselves

what they do, bearing in mind they

3:34:263:34:34

are opening to having people coming

from other faiths or none. But that

3:34:343:34:38

is a matter for the churches rather

than for imposition. So I would be

3:34:383:34:44

pleased to hear what the reason for

the delay is. I finish on the note

3:34:443:34:48

that I think our society is

enriched, our people are well

3:34:483:34:54

educated, because of the existence

of our church schools. And long

3:34:543:34:59

indeed may they flourish.

I echo the

words of other noble Lords in

3:34:593:35:08

thanking the Archbishop of

Canterbury for bringing us together

3:35:083:35:11

to reflect on such important matters

to our nation and to learn from one

3:35:113:35:16

another for education is certainly

not just for the young. My Lords we

3:35:163:35:21

ask a lot of our children and pin

great hopes on them. They are our

3:35:213:35:25

future after all. We ask them to

navigate a complex world which

3:35:253:35:36

operates 24/7, which blurs the line

between private and public. Our

3:35:363:35:39

children never get a day off. And

some never get a night off either.

3:35:393:35:43

And what is our legacy to them? An

inheritance of debt a dream of

3:35:433:35:49

owning their own home that is dimmer

than ours and a mistrust of politics

3:35:493:35:54

and a decline of productivity, a

climate of storms real and political

3:35:543:35:59

to navigate. In a world where truth

is hard to get a handle on and in

3:35:593:36:04

some quarters has been declared out

of vogue. Our debate today throws

3:36:043:36:09

the net wide and I would like to

touch on two issues. Both of which I

3:36:093:36:15

believe are vital in building not

only a flourishing society but a

3:36:153:36:22

flour iring democratic and liberal

one. I speak my lords of mental

3:36:223:36:27

health issue and of social media.

First mental health. My mords we are

3:36:273:36:32

allowing a generation of children to

reach adulthood without the support

3:36:323:36:36

they need to be rounded, stable

independent people that they can and

3:36:363:36:42

should be. They are future citizens.

The figure are sobering. Last year

3:36:423:36:49

as many as one in 250 children were

referred to what is known as Tams by

3:36:493:36:57

professionals. Nearly a third were

turned away and 60% were left on

3:36:573:37:02

waiting lists. This means a lot of

disappointed children and families

3:37:023:37:11

under enormous strain. A recent

report noted 50% of mental illness

3:37:113:37:19

in adult life starts before the age

of 15. So the troubles of today's

3:37:193:37:24

children will soon be the trouble of

tomorrow's adults. We have been slow

3:37:243:37:29

to act. A growing cry for help and

not enough help at hand. I do

3:37:293:37:35

welcome signs that people are

beginning to listen, but let us hope

3:37:353:37:39

this listening translates into real

solutions and I welcome the

3:37:393:37:44

Secretary of State's mental health

initiative. Certainly some of the

3:37:443:37:48

answer must lie in the scho

community and I speak of primary and

3:37:483:37:59

Secretary schools. Teachers are

often the best people to spot

3:37:593:38:05

problems. But let us be clear for

others they will need a programme of

3:38:053:38:10

treatment in the NHS and we will

never solve the problem with a lack

3:38:103:38:18

of trained counsellors and

unaccepted waiting times.

3:38:183:38:28

We were lodged by a wave from the

problem of why the cries for help

3:38:283:38:31

are there any first place and some

of that comes down to education and

3:38:313:38:35

how we teach our children which is

way beyond the three Rs. A sense of

3:38:353:38:42

well-being, respect and kindness and

consideration to others. A sense of

3:38:423:38:48

communication and nationhood. For us

to win the global race, we must

3:38:483:38:51

remember who are trying to win it

for. We have much to do if going to

3:38:513:38:58

create every child growing up to be

the Independent, punchy adult they

3:38:583:39:03

can be and when they reach

adulthood, we ask them to do

3:39:033:39:10

something very important, but it

paid for the first time in our

3:39:103:39:12

democracy and exercise that. There

is much more true democracy than the

3:39:123:39:18

casting of a vote. Our traditions

are underpinned by the rule of law

3:39:183:39:23

in bedded in society, one which

prevents freedom of expression and

3:39:233:39:30

-- supports freedom of expression

and encourages debate. Our citizens

3:39:303:39:34

are asked to assess the Government

every four years and whether they

3:39:343:39:37

want more or less of them at the

ballot box. At the heart of a lovely

3:39:373:39:41

democracy alive the integrity of the

poll and today we cannot escape the

3:39:413:39:47

uncomfortable and growing

realisation that one of the key

3:39:473:39:49

sources which we take article views

may be open to manipulation. I

3:39:493:39:54

taught a course a social media. Once

they might have watched the evening

3:39:543:40:00

news and read a trusty newspaper, we

now have an infinite number of news

3:40:003:40:06

sources at our fingertips which

navigate at high speed all day often

3:40:063:40:09

from unknown origins. The scour the

Internet, we are less certain what

3:40:093:40:14

is information and what is

misinformation, who contrast, what

3:40:143:40:18

is real, what is not, Bishop or

Russian bought. Our content of what

3:40:183:40:25

we read can be clouded by lack of

context. It is so powerful that is

3:40:253:40:32

sometimes a force for good in

necessary change and sometimes not.

3:40:323:40:37

When the truth emerges, if it does,

it is often too late to defuse the

3:40:373:40:42

tension it has bird. The reality

lost in the midst of anger. So the

3:40:423:40:47

storm rages about how our democracy

is under threat from social media

3:40:473:40:52

with far fewer ideas of how to

address it and while I have no doubt

3:40:523:40:58

that regulation will come, I'm less

certain that we can counter it to

3:40:583:41:02

protect the integrity of our

democracy so that leads us back to

3:41:023:41:05

the individuals who use it in the

first place and to their judgment

3:41:053:41:09

which brings us back to education,

my Lords. I believe it is vital to

3:41:093:41:14

teach children from a young age to

navigate the web, help them assess

3:41:143:41:18

the validity of what they read, to

explain why they should care in the

3:41:183:41:23

first place. I believe we must

encourage debate in our country and

3:41:233:41:29

on campuses of a university, not

wrap children in cotton wool

3:41:293:41:33

surrounded by safe places so that

our children have the confidence to

3:41:333:41:38

form a view and then weigh it up

against the argument of another, to

3:41:383:41:44

challenge and sometimes to change.

As Aristotle said, it is the mark of

3:41:443:41:47

an educated mind to be able to

entertain people without accepting

3:41:473:41:52

it. My Lords, I speak to Dave argues

you to bring up a generation of

3:41:523:41:58

young, to be confident, stable

adults, citizens of the future and

3:41:583:42:03

be able to navigate the hashtags

world which is theirs to inherit.

I

3:42:033:42:13

am grateful to the Archbishop of

Canterbury for his leadership in

3:42:133:42:15

this debate and in everything else.

I speak this afternoon from three

3:42:153:42:22

perspectives, as the Bishop of a

diocese with over 280 church

3:42:223:42:27

schools, primary, secondary and

driving. As a member of the select

3:42:273:42:33

committee on artificial intelligence

which has been a fascinating

3:42:333:42:36

enterprise and also as a grandfather

with three as yet unsuspecting young

3:42:363:42:42

grandsons who will enter the

education system in the next year or

3:42:423:42:45

so, the eldest at two and a half,

the youngest in just three months.

3:42:453:42:50

Those grandsons will grow up in a

different world. They will probably

3:42:503:42:56

never drive or own cars. They will

interact with screens and machines

3:42:563:43:02

from an early age. They will need to

learn how to set boundaries around

3:43:023:43:09

their online lives. Their working

lives will be more different from my

3:43:093:43:17

own than mine is from my

grandfather's. As Lord Baker and

3:43:173:43:22

Lord Puttnam and indicated, the most

reliable aspens indicated that

3:43:223:43:29

between 20% and 40% of current jobs

will simply no longer exist. When

3:43:293:43:33

they leave school. Affecting

disproportionately current areas of

3:43:333:43:43

deprivation. The life script of

education followed by work, followed

3:43:433:43:47

by retirement which has applied

since Victorian times simply will

3:43:473:43:53

not apply any longer. Their school

years old therefore essential,

3:43:533:44:00

beginning next year. In helping them

prepared to live purposeful and

3:44:003:44:06

productive lives, not confined to

paid appointment in the formation of

3:44:063:44:11

their character and of values in a

digital world. As well as laying the

3:44:113:44:17

groundwork for lifelong education

and learning. As the Archbishop and

3:44:173:44:22

others have said, we are living

through an unprecedented digital

3:44:223:44:28

revolution which will impact

everyone. It will have extraordinary

3:44:283:44:32

implications on the range of skills

that today's children and young

3:44:323:44:36

people will require in every aspect

of their lives. And it is essential

3:44:363:44:43

to set an ethical digital education,

and ethical digital education at the

3:44:433:44:50

very heart of the curriculum for the

future. Knowledge and skills will

3:44:503:44:54

not be enough. We are only beginning

to glimpse the shifts required.

3:44:543:45:00

There has been a major reboot in the

teaching of computer sciences and

3:45:003:45:06

schools, just the last three years,

which is wholly well, but clearly

3:45:063:45:12

just the beginning. I have spoken

with secondary schoolteachers and a

3:45:123:45:17

university head of Department only

yesterday. They believe this a real

3:45:173:45:20

success story. The curriculum is

more engaging and problem centred.

3:45:203:45:27

The aspirations are higher. There

are many pockets of excellence,

3:45:273:45:32

including, I'm glad to say, in my

own dialysis. The recent Royal

3:45:323:45:40

Society on competing education in

schools published just a few weeks

3:45:403:45:43

ago revealed that we have only just

begun to set things right.

3:45:433:45:47

Computing, education, we read is

patchy and fragile. Its future

3:45:473:45:53

development and sustainability

depend on swift and coordinated

3:45:533:45:57

action by governments, industry and

nonprofit organisations. The Royal

3:45:573:46:03

Society report that a number of

teachers are teaching an unfamiliar

3:46:033:46:08

subject without adequate support and

upscaling. Teacher training and

3:46:083:46:12

recruitment are an even hand behind

the times. I agree with Ward Baker

3:46:123:46:20

on extending ethical computer and

digital education to 16 athlete and

3:46:203:46:26

with Lord Rees on the need to retain

breath all the way through our

3:46:263:46:30

school and university system. I can

still remember having to choose 816

3:46:303:46:35

between mathematics and Greek for an

A-level subject. In the recent

3:46:353:46:43

budget, the Government indicated

that major investment in the

3:46:433:46:47

teaching of digital skills and

computer science will be

3:46:473:46:51

forthcoming. It is very

considerable. £469 from Matt and

3:46:513:46:57

technical education, £84 million to

train 8000 computer science

3:46:573:47:03

teachers, dropping the number by the

end of this Parliament, a new centre

3:47:033:47:08

for competing education. --

travelling that number. There are

3:47:083:47:13

four challengers, of which he first

is to put the UK at the forefront of

3:47:133:47:20

artificial intelligence and the data

revolution. Education and skills are

3:47:203:47:22

vital in meeting this but this

digital education must be set

3:47:223:47:28

clearly any context of ethics and

values, and ethics and values

3:47:283:47:33

recommended to day must be at the

heart of our digital education. The

3:47:333:47:40

scope of PHSE must include the

skills and challenges young people

3:47:403:47:43

are facing, boundaries to get

identity, recognise signs of

3:47:433:47:50

addiction and behaviour in a digital

world, to build human relationships

3:47:503:47:53

alongside followers, to develop the

inner force to counter as Lord

3:47:533:48:00

Giddings has said, the very dark

side of the digital world. May I ask

3:48:003:48:06

the Minister to comment, please, as

part of his summing up the debate on

3:48:063:48:09

the following three questions. What

is planned by the governments have

3:48:093:48:13

for the teaching of ethics as part

of the computer science curriculum

3:48:133:48:18

in an integrated way? What plans

does the Government have for the

3:48:183:48:24

integration of digital questions

into the broader character and

3:48:243:48:28

values education offered in our

schools. Finally, the Government

3:48:283:48:31

giving consideration to a Cabinet

level post of the Minister for

3:48:313:48:36

digital development that offer

leadership across the Government in

3:48:363:48:40

such a crystal sector such as the

scale of the change required.

It is

3:48:403:48:49

a great privilege to speak in

two-day's debate. We are fortunate

3:48:493:48:52

that the most reverent uses his

unique position in this house to

3:48:523:49:00

broaden our horizons from time to

time, speaking on topics that have

3:49:003:49:04

grand significance for the future

society. In doing so coming he

3:49:043:49:07

raises the overall tone of discourse

in this chamber which we have seen

3:49:073:49:10

in abundance during the contribution

so far, including his own

3:49:103:49:14

outstanding contribution. And

introduction. You highlight the

3:49:143:49:20

importance of character and -based

education where the church of

3:49:203:49:25

England has been a pioneering

leadership. This approach contains

3:49:253:49:29

many of the ingredients to unite

diverse communities in Britain and

3:49:293:49:33

the essential to provide much needed

boost for social cohesion. In the

3:49:333:49:37

group unavailable, and wanted to

approach today's subject of a

3:49:373:49:41

slightly different angle to other

members of your lodge a's house by

3:49:413:49:44

speaking specifically about the

Indian perspectives on education,

3:49:443:49:50

encompassing the Hindu, C and a

Buddhist traditions which share a

3:49:503:49:56

common heritage and also the

important role and stages according

3:49:563:50:00

to teachers in that culture. Bat

Sikh. -- according to the --

3:50:003:50:08

afforded to teachers in that

culture. The briefing papers for

3:50:083:50:14

today's debate rightly identified

Aristotle as an inspiration for the

3:50:143:50:21

philosophy of human flourishing.

Connecting the pieces of happiness

3:50:213:50:24

to the cultivation of virtue. In the

civilisation of India which predates

3:50:243:50:32

Aristotle by more than 1000 years,

the similar knowledge system

3:50:323:50:35

provided the very organisational

basis for society. Importantly, that

3:50:353:50:40

system was holistic and design.

Emphasising abridgement of the mind,

3:50:403:50:45

body and spirit. That is worth yoga

and meditation originate and I shall

3:50:453:50:52

return to these again in my remarks.

This understanding of history

3:50:523:50:57

hopefully explains why Indians

positively embrace the quest for

3:50:573:51:01

learning education. This is not just

missed Ballinger, this is home to

3:51:013:51:09

people of Indian origin. The data

recently compiled by the Cabinet

3:51:093:51:12

Office is part of the Government's

great disparity shows that far from

3:51:123:51:19

being a disadvantage minority,

British Indians ranked top in the

3:51:193:51:21

number of economic and social

metrics. Specifically, the

3:51:213:51:24

Department for Education ranking

shows that Indian pupils alongside

3:51:243:51:27

Chinese have the highest attainment

throughout school, make the most

3:51:273:51:32

progress and are most likely to stay

in education and going to

3:51:323:51:35

university. What can we learn from

this cultural anthropology? I like

3:51:353:51:40

to highlight the specific points of

practical relevance to dive. The

3:51:403:51:44

very first is openness to new ideas

which is almost a prerequisite for

3:51:443:51:49

any form of education and

self-discovery. One of the oldest

3:51:493:51:53

living Scriptures found anywhere

which I used to take my openness

3:51:533:51:58

house says in the ancient language

Sanskrit... Translated to let Noble

3:51:583:52:08

thoughts come to me from all

directions. That phrase feels

3:52:083:52:11

particularly suited to this house

and today's debate. It is also

3:52:113:52:17

crucial for a world that has become

increasingly inward and intolerance.

3:52:173:52:21

Actors therefore vital that rather

than close of young minds, the open

3:52:213:52:26

them. The second is a special stages

referred to as gurus in the

3:52:263:52:34

traditions and to really

relationship with students. A Guru

3:52:343:52:40

is revered and held in high esteem

and not only for who they are and

3:52:403:52:43

what they know but also for their

role as a custodian of fundamental

3:52:433:52:50

values that have passed from one

generation to the next there was an

3:52:503:52:54

important distinction here, the job

of a teacher today is becoming a

3:52:543:53:00

transactional relationship, and

experts who know something which a

3:53:003:53:02

pupil seeks to acquire. In contrast

a Guru is someone much more about

3:53:023:53:11

wisdom and guidance, a mental who

leads by example, concerned with the

3:53:113:53:14

overall well-being and looking

forward to a time when their own

3:53:143:53:19

disciples stepped into their shoes a

cycle of life turns once more.

3:53:193:53:26

Elevating the status of teachers

throughout the world has recently

3:53:263:53:28

been taken up perhaps appropriately

by an Indian origin entrepreneur

3:53:283:53:33

whose parents were teachers. He felt

that the diminishing respect we have

3:53:333:53:38

for educators is one of the reasons

why there is a recruitment and

3:53:383:53:42

retention crisis in the profession.

In 2013, the foundation commissioned

3:53:423:53:48

a study called the global teacher

status index which found that only

3:53:483:53:51

in China are teachers seen as

occupying the same high perception

3:53:513:53:56

of doctors. Everywhere else,

teaching is seen as a middle to low

3:53:563:53:59

ranking profession in terms of

social status.

3:53:593:54:04

Keffiyeh,

This prompted the

foundation to launch an annual $1

3:54:043:54:12

million award presented to an

exceptional teacher. In only three

3:54:123:54:15

years since the launch the process

of awarding the prize has captured

3:54:153:54:21

worldwide imagination and attracts

over 30,000 entries from 178

3:54:213:54:25

countries. There is little doubt

that teachers deserve to be

3:54:253:54:31

celebrated, given their impact on

students and communities. The third

3:54:313:54:35

lesson I wanted to highlight is the

holistic nature of education, the

3:54:353:54:41

most well known features are yoga

and medication. Research has shown

3:54:413:54:46

this can improve focus, memory,

self-esteem and reduce anxiety and

3:54:463:54:59

stress. The paper points to America

at a time when Americans are looking

3:54:593:55:06

east. There is a wave in yoga and

medication into the classroom. It is

3:55:063:55:12

only a matter of time before it

arrives here. To quote Mark Twain,

3:55:123:55:18

India is the cradle of the human

race, the birth place of human

3:55:183:55:24

speech, the mother of history and

the grandmother of tradition. Even

3:55:243:55:29

if only a small part of that is

true, we should learn from its

3:55:293:55:35

wisdom and deploy some of the

lessons I have described,

3:55:353:55:40

particularly those related to

elevating the status of teachers for

3:55:403:55:46

the benefit of generations to come.

Education is too good to be devoted

3:55:463:55:51

to the young, the young are far too

important to our future for their

3:55:513:55:56

education to be anything less than

holistic. By holistic, I mean

3:55:563:56:03

educating the whole person in every

aspect. Not just their brain, but

3:56:033:56:12

their heart and their soul. We

should be preparing the young for

3:56:123:56:16

the society, the economy, the

technology of tomorrow. For

3:56:163:56:21

tomorrow. But trying to do that

through a narrow foe customer on

3:56:213:56:30

testable is frankly plain wrong. The

desire should be that young leave as

3:56:303:56:37

young adults ready to make the most

of the gift and talents they enjoy.

3:56:373:56:44

So that can become productive

members of society in the work place

3:56:443:56:47

and in their families and in their

communities. Some will become

3:56:473:56:55

wealth-creators and employers.

Others will join the service and

3:56:553:57:00

caring professions and that will

include teaching. They will

3:57:003:57:03

contribute to the success of others.

The most important thing is that

3:57:033:57:08

their lives should be fulfilled and

happy. In a country that was

3:57:083:57:16

highlighted by Unicef as having the

unhappiness children in the world,

3:57:163:57:20

we have a great opportunity and we

can maximise that by fostering a

3:57:203:57:25

sense of duty, because research

suggests that the happiest people

3:57:253:57:30

are those that give. How do we

foster and develop that through

3:57:303:57:35

education? Well certainly not

through come partalised education.

3:57:353:57:46

The whole of education, all of it,

should develop character. And

3:57:463:57:51

families as well as schools must my

their part in developing those

3:57:513:57:55

qualities that are essential for

life, but can't be measured by

3:57:553:58:00

academic markers. Self-confidence

and discipline and resilience and

3:58:003:58:06

resourcefulness and emotional

intelligence, caring for all people

3:58:063:58:08

are key among the qualities that

make for happiness. You can't teach

3:58:083:58:16

these in 40 minutes slots. There

needs to be space in the curriculum

3:58:163:58:20

for all the other things, sports,

drama, debating, music, completing a

3:58:203:58:26

Duke of Edinburgh's award. All great

experiences that expand minds and

3:58:263:58:31

build character. Getting a thumping

on the rugby pitch. Finding yourself

3:58:313:58:35

lost in the Brecon beacons, working

as a team to put together an amazing

3:58:353:58:43

dramatic performance. These will

most certainly all teach youngsters

3:58:433:58:50

more about resilience than any

number of extra lessons on a Friday

3:58:503:58:54

afternoon. What is more, these

experiences actually help them, they

3:58:543:58:58

will help them to cope better with

tough maths problems. So this is not

3:58:583:59:06

an argument for diluting academic

rigor it is about encouraging a

3:59:063:59:12

wider view of education that will

help to raise standards. This what

3:59:123:59:15

is I mean by holistic education.

Education that is broad and

3:59:153:59:22

all-absorbing, that requires all

involved, students, teachers and

3:59:223:59:27

parents, to understand that

everything plays it part in

3:59:273:59:33

delivering a well rounded individual

equipped to play a useful role in

3:59:333:59:38

society. That means accepting not

even extra maths or English is more

3:59:383:59:42

important than a drama lesson or

sports and that we need to make

3:59:423:59:47

space for all these things. The most

important thing I have learned as a

3:59:473:59:52

businessman and a traveller and a

trustee focussing on disadvantaged

3:59:523:59:59

young people, that is we have some

truly exceptional young talent in

3:59:594:00:03

this country. And that most of those

from the most unpromising of back

4:00:034:00:10

grounds can achieve most remarkable

things. I have seen it first hand

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many times. So let us help all our

young people to make the most of

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their lives and maximise their

talents. Not by setting more tests,

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but by liberating schools and

students to work together to build

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character and happiness through a

truly holistic education.

Lord

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Murphy referred to our shared

educational experience in Wales. A

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village of less than 7,000 people.

That produced five MPs, a few ended

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up in the House of Lords and among

the MPs a Secretary for Wales, for

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Northern Ireland and a Chancellor.

We may have lacked many things, but

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we didn't lack ambition. I went on

in later life to represent a former

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mining area. The areas of South

Wales that I'm familiar with

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experienced deprivation, where many

people faced the challenges, the

4:01:214:01:26

massive challenges of social change

with the loss of pits and industry.

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And the spirit of folk who lived

there was sorely tested. But for the

4:01:304:01:35

people of my parents' generation and

for mine too, there was a belief

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that education was a path way out of

poverty. We saw education as a gate

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way to opportunity. A better life

and a fulfilled life. Alas I'm not

4:01:464:01:52

sure that that spirit and belief is

widespread today. All too often I'm

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struck by what I call poverty of

ambition. I remember visiting a

4:01:574:02:03

primary school and the head saying

to me when he came to the school, no

4:02:034:02:07

one expected anything from him.

Because no one in that village had

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gone to university. It was not

because people were not intelligence

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or lacked ability. Far from it. He

told me a story, he told a mother of

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a pupil, her son, was going to

university. The boy was intelligent,

4:02:224:02:29

inquisitive, confident, articulate.

The mother replayed, don't be daft,

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university is not for the likes of

us. This poverty of ambition is a

4:02:334:02:41

barrier to the advancement of

working people. Since I entered this

4:02:414:02:44

house I have been privileged to work

with people who want to grasp all

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the opportunities that education can

offer. And because for so many of

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the people I have in mind, people

with autism, their battle has been

4:02:544:02:58

that much harder. All too often just

to get a statement or diagnosis can

4:02:584:03:04

take years. But despite the

obstacles, there are many parents of

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us autistic youngsters who will

fight for their children. There was

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a report published called autism in

education and I want pay tribute to

4:03:194:03:30

two MPs, both Conservatives,

cochairs of inquiry that produced

4:03:304:03:33

the report. And in examining how the

system work they found that 78% of

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parents say it has not been easy to

get support that their child needs.

4:03:394:03:45

42% of parents said their child was

refused an assessment of their

4:03:454:03:50

needs. 50% said they waited more

than a year for their child to

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receive support at school. And 40%

said their child's school places do

4:03:564:04:01

not fully meet their needs. These

are not small numbers. They

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demonstrate there are serious short

comings in educating children and

4:04:054:04:09

young people with autism in our

country. And I should declare an

4:04:094:04:17

interest as the vice chair to the

all party group. The author of the

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act called for a national strategy.

Such a strategy would set out how

4:04:254:04:30

autistic youngsters could be

supported and what society should

4:04:304:04:33

provide for them. Why do we need

such a strategy? Three years on from

4:04:334:04:42

reforms of special educational

needs, children with autism are

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being let down. Fewer than half the

young people are happy in school.

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Six out of ten young people and

seven out of ten parents say the

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main thing that would make the

school better is a teacher who

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understands them. A mother told meed

she had not visited the school,

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because he knew had a child with

autism, who understood his problems.

4:05:104:05:20

The most reverent primate titled the

debate the role of education in

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building society, for me, education

and a skilled society are two sides

4:05:264:05:29

of same coin. The National Autistic

Society report saying, I'm not

4:05:294:05:40

unemployable, I'm autistic, they

highlighted the problems in employ.

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Just 16% of autistic people are in

full-time employed and 16% fart

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people. -- part-time. What a waste

of a life, what a waste of a talent

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to much to enrich our society and

our economy. In the 21st Century

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this lack of opportunity is wrong

and we should be ashamed of. Can I

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ask the minister some questions. We

have called for the Government to

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develop a national autism and

education strategy. Will the

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Government agree to this. The MPs

wants local council to be

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commissioners for children, can the

minister say if the Government

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agrees with that. They argue that

schools should be equipped and

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welcoming to ensure that autistic

pupils thrive. They erj all urge

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ministers to make sure that every

child is supported in the way the

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law says they should be. Is the

minister himself prepared to take

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that leadership role in their own

department. As I look around at the

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chamber, I see many colleague who

have championed the right of people

4:07:004:07:05

from ethnic minority, the rights of

Christians and non-Christians, the

4:07:054:07:10

rights of people to decide and

define their own sexual orientation.

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All I ask is that each one of us if

we have the opportunity to champion

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this cause too and make a

difference.

Having been recycled in

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your Lord ship's house this is in

the nature of a second maiden

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speech. Perhaps with do maiden

speeches I might be described as

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extra-virgin, double-pressed. But it

is an extraordinarily timely debate.

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Most eloquently introduced by the

most reverent primate and we have

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heard why from a number of other

noble speakers, I particular my

4:07:504:07:56

resonated with the sense of urgency

of the noble Lord, Lord Adonis and

4:07:564:08:04

the noble Baroness, lady Mackintosh,

her words about real dangers for

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democracy, which I take very

seriously. Aristotle has been

4:08:094:08:13

invoked on a number of occasions

already, he has been put in his

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place of course. By the earlier

sages of Indian subcontinent. But

4:08:204:08:26

Aristotle warned that there was a

recurring pattern of democracy

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disintegrating because the Demos

ceased to have any shared moral

4:08:414:08:45

compass and became a crowd of

individuals and when that happens,

4:08:454:08:51

democracy fades and you have some

kind of tyranny. I think that the

4:08:514:08:59

comment about the real danger to

democracy in our time is one we

4:08:594:09:04

ought to heed.

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Having heard other contributions to

this debate, I feel somewhat like

4:09:114:09:16

Ruth leaning out of a combine

harvester bought it is clear that we

4:09:164:09:23

are all agreed that places of

education are worthy intubated a

4:09:234:09:26

better future and of course it's

true historically that education

4:09:264:09:32

strategies have been at the heart of

various economic and social shifts,

4:09:324:09:36

they've been involved in the

Industrial Revolution but the growth

4:09:364:09:43

of the new knowledge-based economy

means now we are well into a century

4:09:434:09:50

of humanity as a whole most

eloquently being described by the

4:09:504:09:57

noble lord Lord Rees in his boot our

final century, a book with that

4:09:574:10:05

title and worryingly not supplied

with a question mark I noticed. We

4:10:054:10:12

need to, then it's a huge challenge

from various sources for humanity,

4:10:124:10:17

we need to covering the tree of

knowledge with the tree of wisdom

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which sets knowledge in the context

of human flourishing. In a society

4:10:204:10:27

dominated by technology, technology

which has opened up new

4:10:274:10:32

possibilities, we need to rediscover

our hearts and everyone to avoid

4:10:324:10:41

moving into an ice age of humanity

then they must give more weight to

4:10:414:10:46

reasons of the hearts. People have

been working to develop computer

4:10:464:10:51

that can bring, the Japanese are

experimenting with care robots to

4:10:514:10:59

assist in the care of the elderly.

No one as far as I'm aware has

4:10:594:11:04

suggested developing a computer that

can laugh but our fulfilment and our

4:11:044:11:12

enjoyment in life, or the misery we

suffer does not depend on what we

4:11:124:11:18

know what we do not know, it does

depend on whether we love and

4:11:184:11:24

whether we are alarmed. Skills help

us to land the job, character is

4:11:244:11:31

what people talk about when you die.

And when what you did in design and

4:11:314:11:40

technology and GCSEs matters very

little. As the father of a teach

4:11:404:11:45

first graduate who is teaching in a

state school in Tower Hamlets, I

4:11:454:11:51

must say I bury much resonated with

the comments of the noble lord Lord

4:11:514:11:56

Griffiths that there was such a huge

gap between the aspirations that

4:11:564:12:01

have been described all the way

around the house and what is

4:12:014:12:05

actually happening on the ground.

The site to the noble minister is

4:12:054:12:10

going to be able to offer us all

assurance that serious consideration

4:12:104:12:16

will be given to widening scope. I

want you in conclusion draw

4:12:164:12:24

attention to one skill which has not

been explicitly mentioned so far in

4:12:244:12:29

this debate of which I believe is

crucial is we are to cultivate a

4:12:294:12:40

future in which we substantiate our

claim that even if we leave the EU,

4:12:404:12:48

we are not leaving Europe. That is

the provision of better language

4:12:484:12:57

training early in life. One of my

last acts as Bishop of London was to

4:12:574:13:01

open the new Saint Jerome 's School

in Harrow high Street, a state

4:13:014:13:07

funded church primary school where

it is not merely a school that

4:13:074:13:14

offers language teaching but the

whole curriculum is delivered in

4:13:144:13:21

French and in English. It is

actually virtually a trilingual

4:13:214:13:26

school because the language of most

of the schools... It seems to me

4:13:264:13:34

that facilitating and their language

is a very important contribution to

4:13:344:13:39

building the Western economy we need

and to actually secure ordering the

4:13:394:13:46

best possible and most flourishing

future if we do leave the EU. Thank

4:13:464:13:50

you.

I'm honoured to follow the

noble lord. Now a highly eminent

4:13:504:14:02

personality on the cross benches and

I note also that the right Reverend,

4:14:024:14:09

the Archbishop of Canterbury, is

surrounded by a huge number of

4:14:094:14:17

people also so we are surrounded by

virtue. Alas my words...

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LAUGHTER

Not on this backbencher this moment

4:14:254:14:31

where I'm all those by myself. My

remarks are perhaps a little bit

4:14:314:14:36

more practical, I seek to discuss

the new education as a tool to help

4:14:364:14:46

you and behaviour in a way that only

an enormous difference to those that

4:14:464:14:51

are influenced by them because their

state at the moment is so utterly

4:14:514:14:56

desperate. I had the pleasure of

reading a second conference with the

4:14:564:15:02

Bishop of Derby recently in St

Georges house Windsor. Our first

4:15:024:15:09

conference was an religious

persecution and its impact on false

4:15:094:15:13

migration. Our second conference was

just the other day and was led on

4:15:134:15:17

with that from religious persecution

and forced migration to return a

4:15:174:15:24

very different topic indeed, we are

very fortunate that we were provided

4:15:244:15:32

with a wonderful background paper,

we had a lot of charities, we had

4:15:324:15:41

universities, we had Oxford

University, with Doctor Theodore

4:15:414:15:44

Seldon and we had a number of

eminent officials from the

4:15:444:15:50

Commonwealth office and US State

Department. I should say that this

4:15:504:15:56

work sprang from the noble Lordship

of select committees on ballots in

4:15:564:16:01

conflict of which broke the vision

and Derby and I have been members.

4:16:014:16:06

Default is therefore was an very

much indeed the plight of the

4:16:064:16:12

Yazidis and others, now the wrecking

as sadly, who have been appallingly

4:16:124:16:18

abused in monstrous way that I

cannot articulate to day because

4:16:184:16:22

they are so utterly repugnant. --

the Yazidis and the Rohingyas. We

4:16:224:16:35

focused on three important points

were education came up to be the

4:16:354:16:39

sort of harbour of the recovery

potential. First of all, we are

4:16:394:16:45

talking about the recovery

post-sexual violence and other

4:16:454:16:49

violence. Secondly, we spoke about

survival in a cap and in that sort

4:16:494:16:56

of situation and we were distressed

to discover that in both refugee

4:16:564:17:03

camps and IDP sightings, there are

now 260 plus people in that in

4:17:034:17:07

remarkably few places in the world

that there is no education provision

4:17:074:17:11

by any aspect of the United Nations.

None. Then we talked about the

4:17:114:17:18

return where the most poignant

matter at the moment is perhaps the

4:17:184:17:24

reconstruction of the library of

Mosul. We talked about recovery, we

4:17:244:17:31

talked about physical, mental and

spiritual recovery. We pointed out

4:17:314:17:37

in our report which comes out next

week that there is no capability for

4:17:374:17:41

worship in any form of ideal refugee

camp situation, there is no space,

4:17:414:17:48

no credence, no leaders, there is no

in the secular world, no space for

4:17:484:17:54

worship. For people to have

religion, it is almost a critical

4:17:544:18:00

part of their identity, I urge the

Archbishop to think about that. We

4:18:004:18:07

talked also about the need for

psychiatry and psychosocial support

4:18:074:18:12

where we found that music and dance

were particularly important to the

4:18:124:18:16

creative arts and absolutely vital

in restoring the person. We noticed

4:18:164:18:24

that in these IDP camps,

particularly family, most had been

4:18:244:18:33

burned alive in front of these poor

survivors, these poor girls, boys

4:18:334:18:37

and young people, that Karen had

been killed in front of them. Some

4:18:374:18:40

bird alive, some very alive so there

was no family to look after them. --

4:18:404:18:49

some b alive and some -- some buried

alive, some buried alive. What made

4:18:494:19:00

them feel that was an educational

city and if we could begin in what

4:19:004:19:04

was in the form of a classroom, you

could have a teacher colleagues have

4:19:044:19:08

a subject, it did not matter what

was going to be church, learning,

4:19:084:19:11

music, anything, suddenly they began

to feel very human again. We found

4:19:114:19:18

that education was a huge positive

input for their recovery. I would

4:19:184:19:23

say that in the charity I'd share,

well 25 years old next week, we have

4:19:234:19:34

looked after 10.5 million patients

at the 35 years and more importantly

4:19:344:19:38

for this debate, we have had 5

million pupils all of them in

4:19:384:19:44

refugee camps or IDP camps, or in

the backend of streets, people are

4:19:444:19:52

utterly and completely without any

home at all. Education however is

4:19:524:19:56

their biggest deprivation other than

physical health, food and shelter,

4:19:564:20:02

and I ask the primate himself, he

heads up regional unity, would you

4:20:024:20:11

be willing to put his weight dined

seeing these camps and full settings

4:20:114:20:21

having particularly religious

legislation incorporated, as well as

4:20:214:20:28

music, dancing, writing, singing,

being an absolute and not merely an

4:20:284:20:32

also ground in our secular society,

that doesn't actually get any space.

4:20:324:20:40

They are asking also to groups are

strings, support and clear vision of

4:20:404:20:43

who they are behind the Yazidis and

they will disappear if their

4:20:434:20:51

religion they worship is not

recognised in the same way that

4:20:514:20:58

almost everyone else has, which I am

a backbencher, would be kind enough.

4:20:584:21:08

I would like to begin by thanking

this debate -- thanking you for

4:21:084:21:21

having this debate secured. I warmed

by insight and compassion. Being the

4:21:214:21:28

last Speaker of the day means you're

not quite sure what you're going to

4:21:284:21:31

say. Every time you hear the

Speaker, you go away and discover a

4:21:314:21:35

paragraph of your notes. After

hearing 40 odd speakers, there was

4:21:354:21:39

not a single sentence in my notes

which I could keep and the result

4:21:394:21:43

therefore was that I was confronted

by a single sheet of paper and all I

4:21:434:21:49

could write that was relevant to the

debate, so you will forgive me if I

4:21:494:21:57

don't sounds to bravado. I am aiming

to raise certain questions in my

4:21:574:22:02

review that have not been raised.

Educational systems of any country

4:22:024:22:08

are generally shipped by two

factors, one is what kind of world

4:22:084:22:12

we live in, strange parameters that

you cannot cross. Secondly, what do

4:22:124:22:17

you want to do with that? Some

understanding of the fact you are

4:22:174:22:22

with you the kind of world we live

in and some aspirational element of

4:22:224:22:27

what kind of world who wish to

create. We are given some kind of

4:22:274:22:33

idea of the educational system we

wish to create to the first is what

4:22:334:22:39

kind will be live and natural to us

for characteristics. First the

4:22:394:22:43

diversity, it is the constant

movement of people, constant

4:22:434:22:47

movement of ideas of new ideologies,

new religions. Every day, confronted

4:22:474:22:52

with people who we have never seen

before, dress, matter of talking,

4:22:524:22:59

morals, the perversity is an

inescapable feature of modern life.

4:22:594:23:04

The second technology. Lives are

being dominated by technology and

4:23:044:23:10

artificial intelligence of which my

friend has great work, robotic,

4:23:104:23:18

computer, technology is in fact in

danger of replacing human reason,

4:23:184:23:23

the flight of reason by changing the

technique. The third is

4:23:234:23:28

globalisation. More importantly,

bringing home suffering of other

4:23:284:23:36

people in the world and making it

real to us so that the whole idea of

4:23:364:23:41

the human species is replaced by the

idea of a shared humanity or doing

4:23:414:23:44

community.

4:23:444:23:50

Starvation in other parts of world

matters to us, not just television

4:23:504:23:58

presents picture, but we have made

them a part of our mental universe.

4:23:584:24:04

And the market, the market is here

to stay. And it is being extended

4:24:044:24:09

into areas where it had n been

extended before. This is the kind of

4:24:094:24:18

world we are condemned to live, what

should we do to flourish in it? How

4:24:184:24:24

can we improve it. How can we

negotiate our way through it? I

4:24:244:24:28

think of all the capacities that

people are going to need to

4:24:284:24:32

negotiate their way through the

world, I watch to emphasise three

4:24:324:24:38

which have not been given the

attention they deserve and in my

4:24:384:24:42

view they're critically important. I

say this as someone has spent 60

4:24:424:24:47

years of his life in education.

First as a student and latterly as a

4:24:474:24:52

vice Chancellor. First capacity we

need is imagination.

4:24:524:25:06

Not just analytical capacity, but

asking about anything we face, can

4:25:084:25:11

it be done otherwise. What are the

other ways of doing this. And not

4:25:114:25:17

only considering an alternative, but

appreciating others as alternatives,

4:25:174:25:21

if I see other religions I ask why

are they different from us. It was

4:25:214:25:33

talked about Hinduism. Why is the

India guru different from the

4:25:334:25:44

western teachers. The question is to

understand alternatives, to

4:25:444:25:48

appreciate altern Tiches and in the

process -- alternative and in the

4:25:484:25:55

process expand our moral compass.

The first thing is imagination as

4:25:554:25:58

the only way in which you can expand

your range of sympathy to take

4:25:584:26:04

others into your mental universe to

make them yours and also imagination

4:26:044:26:10

of the capacity by which you counter

the power of technology. Machines

4:26:104:26:16

can do anything, they can't imagine.

Imagination is the capacity which

4:26:164:26:24

allows you to prevent reason from

becoming a mere tool and make it

4:26:244:26:34

reflecktive. The second capacity is

self-criticism. This is rare. It

4:26:344:26:40

means seeing through the prejudices

when it accumulates over the course

4:26:404:26:45

of a life as when one grows in a

particular culture, certain

4:26:454:26:53

prejudices become natural. But we

need to see them there and that is

4:26:534:26:56

rare. I want to give an example from

India. In 1820, India had a long

4:26:564:27:05

tradition of public debate, when the

missionaries came they organised a

4:27:054:27:10

public debate between him and the

Hindu pundits. 6,000 people in the

4:27:104:27:16

audience and the Christians asked

what is the first question, do you

4:27:164:27:21

believe in one God or many,

expecting the answer to be many. The

4:27:214:27:26

Hindus said your question is

incoherent. You are preconceiving

4:27:264:27:37

God is one. Is electricity one or

many and so exactly. There are

4:27:374:27:43

questions that absurd you are

assuming that God is not an

4:27:434:27:47

impersonal power. It is blasphemous

because your limiting God to the

4:27:474:27:54

powers of human man. Why can't God

be one and many. Next question

4:27:544:28:02

please. Now. What is wrong here?

What is wrong here is the not the

4:28:024:28:08

questions. But the inability to

question the questions themselves.

4:28:084:28:13

You ask the other question expecting

an answer which you can then decide

4:28:134:28:16

whether it is right or wrong. But

your answer is, you're judging the

4:28:164:28:21

answer in terms of your categories.

What about the accuracy of your

4:28:214:28:27

question turned on you and say, but

I question your questions? I could

4:28:274:28:32

go on, but I shall stop there before

they ask me twice. The third, in

4:28:324:28:39

that context I think rising above

prejudice. In some literature which

4:28:394:28:52

I have studied, education is defined

as that alone is learning which

4:28:524:28:58

liberates you. Liberates you from

your conditioning and your

4:28:584:29:02

prejudices and to be able to

liberate myself from this prejudice,

4:29:024:29:08

that prejudice, the whole life is an

accumulation of prejudice and

4:29:084:29:13

liberating from that. The third

characteristic, is... In the absence

4:29:134:29:20

of a better world I will call

wisdom. Wisdom is a capacity to

4:29:204:29:29

understand the value of something

and to understand the value of

4:29:294:29:32

something is both to know its

significant and its limits. Human

4:29:324:29:38

rights are very valuable, but to

push them in an area where you talk

4:29:384:29:42

of an old lady being forced to eat

in a toilet or a child's right to

4:29:424:29:51

love. Is everything a matter of

human right? The question is just as

4:29:514:29:58

human rights are important, but in

their own place. Like my market,

4:29:584:30:04

very important but it has limited.

The greatest mistake in my view and

4:30:044:30:08

I say what the Margaret Thatcher did

was to extend the range of the

4:30:084:30:13

market into areas where it did not

belong and it extended into

4:30:134:30:20

education and the scandal of the

vice Chancellor's salary and

4:30:204:30:25

students not getting proper

education is all the product of

4:30:254:30:31

markisation of education and that is

the result of not having sufficient

4:30:314:30:35

wisdom and not having the value of

the limits of market.

Thank you to

4:30:354:30:42

the Archbishop for introducing this

debate. I was not there when the

4:30:424:30:53

Balfor act became law a hundred

years ago. But it tried and

4:30:534:30:57

succeeded in transforming the system

of education in England and Wales

4:30:574:31:04

and ended the divide between board

schools and those run by the church.

4:31:044:31:13

Herbert Fisher introduced the Fisher

Act of 1918. Which made compulsory

4:31:134:31:19

education up to the age of 14 and

made it the responsibility of local

4:31:194:31:24

education authorities. In preparing

for this I was reflecting on how far

4:31:244:31:29

we have come in the last hundred

years and what compulsory education

4:31:294:31:34

now means. Many children start

school at 4 and most have the

4:31:344:31:38

benefit of at least 15 hours of free

nursery education. School leaving

4:31:384:31:43

age is 16. But the expectation is

that every young person will

4:31:434:31:48

continue their full-time education

until they're 18 and most will

4:31:484:31:52

continue to study at college or

university or as part of an

4:31:524:31:56

apprenticeship course. The notion of

a broad and balanced curriculum was

4:31:564:32:00

put into statute when the noble Lord

Baker introduced the education

4:32:004:32:06

reform act in 1988. And the

intro-Dux of the English

4:32:064:32:13

baccalaureate is the Government's

current notion of what is a broad

4:32:134:32:17

and balanced curriculum. Many of us

having do not think it allows for

4:32:174:32:21

the creative and soft skills to find

space in that curriculum. What I

4:32:214:32:27

want to focus on is that

increasingly a large group of

4:32:274:32:33

children and young people school

means an unregistered and illegal

4:32:334:32:37

school. In these schools, often in

appalling and unsafe accommodation

4:32:374:32:44

there is a focus on religious tracts

with doctrine driving out the

4:32:444:32:52

development of inquiring minds. The

Chief Inspector three years ago

4:32:524:32:57

wrote two advice letters to

Secretary of State on unregistered

4:32:574:33:01

schools. In November 2014 and again

in the December. He wrote pointing

4:33:014:33:08

out that unregistered, illegal

schools, were often squalid, staff

4:33:084:33:14

had not been vetted for child

safeguarding, pupils were being

4:33:144:33:22

taught a narrow curriculum. And boys

and girls were segregated. He said

4:33:224:33:26

it is vital that when we do identify

illegal activity the full force of

4:33:264:33:31

law is brought to bear on them.

Unfortunately the full force of law

4:33:314:33:37

is neither full n forceful enough to

bring a successful prosecution.

4:33:374:33:48

Because as a result the department

issued a consultation called, out of

4:33:484:33:54

school education settings, call for

evidence. On the Government's web

4:33:544:33:59

side today I read we are analysing

your feedback, and the reader is

4:33:594:34:05

invited to visit the page soon to

down load the outop come of this

4:34:054:34:12

feedback. This was put on the

web-site in January 2016 and I

4:34:124:34:17

understand that this consultation

holds the record for the length of

4:34:174:34:20

time without any feedback. Perhaps

too years is stretching the

4:34:204:34:24

definition of soon to breaking

point. One of the reasons perhaps

4:34:244:34:28

for the silence is that the

threshold for out of school settings

4:34:284:34:34

including attendant at a centre for

more than six hours a week, would

4:34:344:34:40

have captured many activities

undertaken by churches. Perhaps the

4:34:404:34:48

Archbishop might reflect on the

opposition of the Church of England

4:34:484:34:52

of the regulation of out of school

education. Agreeing to the

4:34:524:34:56

registration and light touch

inspection is surely a small price

4:34:564:35:01

to pay for ensuring that young

people are safe and are given an

4:35:014:35:05

education that will with enable them

to flourish and develop skills and

4:35:054:35:11

understanding. Let me turn to

another matter. Our higher education

4:35:114:35:15

is the envy of the world and the

commitment and hard work that

4:35:154:35:21

students invest to obtain

qualifications is laudable. We need

4:35:214:35:25

to guarantee the integrity and

honesty of the qualifications. The

4:35:254:35:36

majority of undergraduates work

hard, work part-time to pay the

4:35:364:35:41

bills. Of course, racking up huge

personal debt. Think of how they

4:35:414:35:46

must feel when they see other young

people encouraged by a ruthless

4:35:464:35:53

individual who have their essays

written for them by fake degrees on

4:35:534:35:58

line and are signed up for a higher

education course with no real

4:35:584:36:02

expectation of completing that

course. So the students can obtain

4:36:024:36:06

cash and the institution collects a

hefty fee. During the passage of

4:36:064:36:11

what is now the higher and education

research act, I was assured by the

4:36:114:36:17

Government that essay mills were not

a significant problem. Perhaps the

4:36:174:36:21

minister might like to reflect on

that assurance in the light of

4:36:214:36:25

recent events. What does minister

believe his activities will do for

4:36:254:36:31

the reputation of our higher

education system? In concluding I

4:36:314:36:34

would like to go back to basics and

talk about early years. This is

4:36:344:36:39

where the foundations of a

flourishing society are laid. The

4:36:394:36:46

OECD published education opportunity

for all. This report states the

4:36:464:36:52

access to higher education

importance that access to quality

4:36:524:36:58

and early childhood education should

be about and talks of accumulation

4:36:584:37:02

of disadvantage that starts at birth

for many. Earlive Early education

4:37:024:37:11

has been the envy of the world and

it needs the appropriate staff and

4:37:114:37:19

opportunities for continuing

professional development. If we are

4:37:194:37:23

serious about social mobility our

settings are not about mild minding,

4:37:234:37:29

but offering an excellenting --

child minding, but offering an

4:37:294:37:33

excellent opportunity to children

and support to parents. The

4:37:334:37:36

Government should not allow this to

decline from the magnificent to the

4:37:364:37:41

immediate yoke we are. He mediocre.

It was interesting to hear Lord

4:37:414:37:50

Adonis and his views on the pay of

those who lead our universities. I

4:37:504:37:53

was surprised or perhaps not, he did

not rail against the hundreds of

4:37:534:37:58

thousands of pounds paid to the

chief executive multi-Academy trusts

4:37:584:38:06

that receive more pay. Perhaps he

may like to talk to Joe Johnson and

4:38:064:38:13

come to some accomodation so the

same body would could look at the

4:38:134:38:19

leadership of trusts. The minister

has been providing with an agenda

4:38:194:38:25

that would transform the system were

to Government to adopt it. Of course

4:38:254:38:29

edge case England depends on the

high quality of leadership in our

4:38:294:38:36

schools, colleges and universities

and the dedication of our teachers.

4:38:364:38:39

It is the work they do each day in

often very difficult circumstances

4:38:394:38:45

which change the lives of our

children and young people for good.

4:38:454:39:00

I, too, congratulate the most

Reverend Private and leading and

4:39:004:39:04

introducing so eloquently to the

debate the debate on this subject

4:39:044:39:10

and that so many noble lords have

recognised that by participating.

4:39:104:39:18

Joshua Watson was mentioned and I

was tempted to wonder whether or not

4:39:184:39:22

he was a four borough of mine. He is

the man who founded the National

4:39:224:39:28

Society of 1811, he told us as he

also told us that they Luddites were

4:39:284:39:35

formed then and I think my

forbearers were involved there but I

4:39:354:39:38

don't know. The most reverent

Private spoke of speaking about the

4:39:384:39:45

most person, the judge of England

was a vision of education and that

4:39:454:39:47

vision reflects the importance of

preparing children for all aspects

4:39:474:39:50

of life on investing in your general

well-being. As many noble lords have

4:39:504:39:55

said, not enough is being done to

promote well-being from an early age

4:39:554:39:59

which will make it difficult for

young people to become resilient

4:39:594:40:04

with improved academic attainment

leading to the skills needed by

4:40:044:40:07

employers and by the economy at

large while enabling them to make a

4:40:074:40:11

positive contribution to psyche.

Today's paper will need to be

4:40:114:40:19

prepared to look into several

careers because of the working of

4:40:194:40:21

their parents and grandparents of

the earlier this year, a vision set

4:40:214:40:25

out for an education system in which

their passports are required and

4:40:254:40:29

were at church schools, the doors

are open to the wider community

4:40:294:40:32

itself. Integration as I read it,

advocated by the noble lord Lord

4:40:324:40:38

Baker and by nine double friend Lord

Judd. Certainly something which we

4:40:384:40:43

had ventures that write you and it

is notable to see that the judge

4:40:434:40:47

stated its intention only to open

inclusive schools in the future. I

4:40:474:40:51

have used say really most welcome

for other churches and religious

4:40:514:40:54

bodies respond or fall running state

schools to do the same and for that

4:40:544:40:58

reason, I'm afraid I cannot agree

with my noble friend Lord Murphy on

4:40:584:41:02

the faith school camp Labour policy

is that the cap has only been put in

4:41:024:41:08

place since 2011 and has not yet had

time to facilitate greater

4:41:084:41:12

integration which is its raison

d'etre. The education policy

4:41:124:41:20

entitled Educating For Our Economic

Future in which it urges to put the

4:41:204:41:28

economy first and try to fill that

landscape. That would sap

4:41:284:41:35

productivity, wages and housing

supply, serious restaurant social

4:41:354:41:39

mobility for the young.

Opportunities will be created for

4:41:394:41:42

those able to adjust their career

path and take advantage of high

4:41:424:41:44

skilled jobs but there are risks

that many would be trapped in

4:41:444:41:49

low-paid jobs with minimum

employment rights. Lord Baker also

4:41:494:41:54

drew attention to computer education

like coding. A lot of people in

4:41:544:42:00

England have either basic or no

information technology skills. As

4:42:004:42:08

the EPI report warns, proficiency

with social media should not be

4:42:084:42:11

mistaken for digital literacy and

work -based digital skills. The

4:42:114:42:14

gunmen shoot Dell a fresh and

problems of strategy for lifelong

4:42:144:42:18

learning from early years through

school to further and higher

4:42:184:42:22

education. With a view to lifelong

learning. I have to say that if that

4:42:224:42:30

sounds rather familiar to the cradle

to grave national education service

4:42:304:42:35

being advocated by Labour, that is

purely coincidental. My Lords,

4:42:354:42:41

lifelong learning is not just about

education, the bad quality of,

4:42:414:42:47

increasing opportunities and

reducing the inequality. Recent

4:42:474:42:53

research from the officer signs

noted that lifelong learning has

4:42:534:42:58

longer benefits, including improved

mental and physical health, social

4:42:584:43:01

cohesion and integration of greater

unity involvement and improve

4:43:014:43:07

democratic participation, all of

which are components of a

4:43:074:43:09

flourishing society. In Alang

learning and learning, part-time

4:43:094:43:15

higher education is a catalyst for

widening employability but over the

4:43:154:43:20

past decade, nearly 4000 part-time

adult students have been lost from

4:43:204:43:24

higher education and the threefold

increase in tuition fees over that

4:43:244:43:27

period is of course a major

contributory factor. I wonder where

4:43:274:43:30

these people have gone and what

skills and career opportunities they

4:43:304:43:35

have foregone because a prosperous

learning and earning higher

4:43:354:43:38

education sector is needed more than

ever, not only because it increases

4:43:384:43:42

productivity and regional skills but

because it promotes social mobility.

4:43:424:43:47

The governments would facilitate an

accessible and affordable system for

4:43:474:43:50

adults that encourages that lifelong

learning and tackle the basic skills

4:43:504:43:54

shortage that our economy is going

to need. In the future. As my noble

4:43:544:44:03

friend Lord McConnell and the noble

lord Lord Lingfield said, the

4:44:034:44:06

further education sector is very

much the poor relation in comparison

4:44:064:44:11

higher education was the overly past

decade, further colleges have been

4:44:114:44:13

hit harder. It is an issue that must

be confronted by the Department for

4:44:134:44:22

Education colleges are to fully play

their part in the Department of

4:44:224:44:25

apprenticeships. Apprenticeships

have a vital role in the heart of

4:44:254:44:29

our response to skills shortages.

The apprenticeship levy and range

4:44:294:44:36

for apprenticeships to encompass

education in the technical aspect of

4:44:364:44:40

both broad moves. The Government is

seemingly excessively targeted 3

4:44:404:44:43

million printed by 2020, quantity

will triumph over quality was not

4:44:434:44:49

enough above level two. There are

worrying signs were flatly's

4:44:494:44:52

announcement as referred to for

several noble lords that there has

4:44:524:44:59

been a drop in apprenticeships from

the last three months of the

4:44:594:45:05

academic year converted the same

time as a year ago. My noble lord

4:45:054:45:10

offered a thought-provoking and

provocative 6-point plan from some

4:45:104:45:13

of the issues here, included in the

role of the public sector in

4:45:134:45:17

supporting apprenticeships which is

certainly something that is worth

4:45:174:45:22

considering. I believe that their

success is to be achieved in the

4:45:224:45:29

development of relevant skills in

the future shape of our economy, it

4:45:294:45:32

must have social mobility at its

heart. A major component of

4:45:324:45:38

encouraging young people is to offer

them a varied and appropriate

4:45:384:45:43

careers advice at school, I very

much welcome the announcement by the

4:45:434:45:48

noble Viscount Lord Younger that the

Government is to publish a career

4:45:484:45:51

strategy early next year with an

emphasis on social mobility because

4:45:514:45:54

good career advice is important and

social mobility as it tells people

4:45:544:46:01

what my opportunities that they may

not even have considered. Andy I

4:46:014:46:05

believe that no school should be a

outstanding greater of the careers

4:46:054:46:09

advice offered to them is not in

itself outstanding and that might

4:46:094:46:13

concentrate the minds of some

headteachers from and you often

4:46:134:46:17

overwhelming concern is the channel

as many of their pupils as possible

4:46:174:46:21

to university. A career advice and

lack of were issuing mean that even

4:46:214:46:25

with the same GCSE results, one more

who are children drop off and better

4:46:254:46:31

off classmates and that is not a

statistic that is not a specific and

4:46:314:46:35

any Government shoot regardless

tolerable. It is widely recognised

4:46:354:46:42

that the key factor as referred to

by various local causing increasing

4:46:424:46:44

social ability in the deluge

provision, referred to a view moment

4:46:444:46:50

ago by the noble lord Lord story,

that is an emphasis on learning

4:46:504:46:55

through play rather than childcare

and is advocated forcibly by the

4:46:554:46:59

noble Baroness. These have a lasting

impact on the stark social class

4:46:594:47:07

differences Bulldogs pro-government

concerned with writing social

4:47:074:47:11

mobility, that is the only priority

should lie. That is why sure start

4:47:114:47:16

centres were wanted by Labour to

decade ago with a particular remit

4:47:164:47:19

to providing early help to infants

from disadvantaged backgrounds

4:47:194:47:23

before they started school, being

viewed is all but a sex session of

4:47:234:47:29

the director indirect since 2010 has

seen many closures from sure start

4:47:294:47:34

centres, referred to by the right

reverend, the Bishop of Gloucester,

4:47:344:47:38

and you will Lord Wallace of salty

air. Indeed, those continue to grow

4:47:384:47:44

at a rate of one per week. The

Government seems to not be willing

4:47:444:47:48

to commit the re-sources to this

funding. They continue to fall

4:47:484:47:53

behind losing ground to their

contemporaries from better off

4:47:534:47:55

families which are never recovered.

Last year, the Government close the

4:47:554:48:01

Child poverty unit, involving cross

departmental issues and initiatives,

4:48:014:48:05

which will bring about the joined up

Government necessary to reduce child

4:48:054:48:08

poverty. It is no wonder that the

Joseph Rowntree foundation reported

4:48:084:48:13

this week that almost 100,000 more

children were living in poverty last

4:48:134:48:17

year with comparison to 2012-13.

Neither of the outgoing chairs on

4:48:174:48:23

the social mobility commission which

had the words child poverty removed

4:48:234:48:26

from its title last year when the

Government gave us one of his

4:48:264:48:29

reasons for leaving his post that

the Government no longer prioritises

4:48:294:48:36

tackling child poverty. Lord Casey

was referred to by the most reverend

4:48:364:48:42

private and using the Prime Minister

at having done at literally nothing

4:48:424:48:46

about immediately cohesion a year

after superseding the review that

4:48:464:48:49

the Government at that them to

undertake. These words are not the

4:48:494:48:53

actions of a Government series

interested in promoting social

4:48:534:48:55

mobility. This debate of course does

not take place in a vacuum. I

4:48:554:49:00

suspect that the noble lord colony

Minister, will tell us that like the

4:49:004:49:03

fears expressed by many noble lords,

it little cause for concern because

4:49:034:49:08

of the action garment is taking oral

shall be initiated. Seems the

4:49:084:49:12

current has got a single item on its

agenda at present and that will

4:49:124:49:16

continue at least until 2019. That

is quite unacceptable that the shape

4:49:164:49:21

of a future post European Union is

being allowed to suffocate

4:49:214:49:24

initiatives that the Government

should be pursuing a bigger and this

4:49:244:49:27

has highlighted the issues that are

essential for skills at the

4:49:274:49:30

workforce of the future will require

a to be developed the current par-3

4:49:304:49:34

on this vital area of policy and if

it does not, the next one certainly

4:49:344:49:39

will.

My Lords, I would like to

thank the most reverend Private, the

4:49:394:49:53

Archbishop of Canterbury for

convening today's debate. I'm glad

4:49:534:49:56

to support this notion on behalf of

the Government. Education is

4:49:564:50:03

fundamental in creating a

flourishing society. A good

4:50:034:50:07

education system is one that opens

up real opportunities to children

4:50:074:50:11

and young people regardless of the

background. I think the noble lord,

4:50:114:50:16

Lord Sacks, putted better, to defend

a civilisation, one needs to defend

4:50:164:50:22

a good education system. I also

agree that it needs to help defend

4:50:224:50:27

the actualisation of society. This

Government has made it a priority to

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increase access to opportunity at

every step of education. By 2020,

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2020, we will be spending a record

£6 billion per year on child care

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and early education. There are now

1.9 million more children being

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taught in schools that are good or

outstanding than was the case in

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2010. The Southern drop tells us

that raising levels of social

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mobility to those of our peers would

boost GDP by as much as £39 billion

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per year. These are simple financial

reasons to achieve it by building a

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civilised society includes reaching

out to the weakest. The noble lord

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Lord Wallace and the right reverend

bishop of Gloucester radian portions

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of the early years. We want to put

an end to the situation in which

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children from less advanced

background are already falling

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behind on language and literacy

before they have even started

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school. The noble lord Lord Watson

raised these as well. We are

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committed to closing the gaps to

early intervention starting with

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high-quality learning from the age

of two years old. To achieve this,

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we have introduced 15 weeks a year

to preach Altair are for children

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from disadvantaged backgrounds. £6

billion per year will be spent on

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early years education. -- 15 weeks

per year of free childcare. We are

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committed to tackling this gap. We

have had actions already such as

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opening up the strategic school

improvement fund. The £12 million

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for network of English clubs

targeting initiatives in areas of

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week early language and literacy. In

schools, we will focus on great

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teaching in order to transfer form

for disadvantaged pupils, supporting

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teacher training, recruitment and

retention, particularly in

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challenging areas to ensure that all

students have access to a

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high-quality education. This

includes investing a further £75

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million from the teaching and

leadership innovation fund to

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provide professional development for

those working in such areas. The

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most reverend primates book about

passion for early education as did

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Lord Linfield and McConnell. Young

people over the age of 16, we will

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ensure that our education system

offers a gold standard for all, not

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just a half to go on to A-levels and

university. We will pursue

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excellence of 16, we will ensure

that our education system offers a

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gold standard for all, not just a

half to go on to A-levels and

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university. We will pursue

excellence in full education as we

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have in our schools and we'll

introduce key levels, technical

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qualifications that will be every

bit as rigorous and respected as

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academic A-levels. -- T-levels.

Those of resulting further

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education, he T-level programme will

involve an investment of £500

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million per year by the time it is

rolled out.

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