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happen. That is one thing that has
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Now its time for Meet the Author. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:08 | |
Mary Lynn Bracht's first novel is a
journey into her career and | 0:00:08 | 0:00:14 | |
heritage. Two sisters separated in a
country that has for their whole | 0:00:14 | 0:00:22 | |
lives been occupied by Japan. White
Chrysanthemum takes its name from | 0:00:22 | 0:00:27 | |
the traditional flow of warning in
Korea. The book is an evocative | 0:00:27 | 0:00:32 | |
version of loss and an account of
how one of the deepest human bonds | 0:00:32 | 0:00:37 | |
can survive almost anything. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
For your first venture into fiction,
you choose to go back to the country | 0:00:56 | 0:01:01 | |
of your mother's birth to a period
long before you were born. To what | 0:01:01 | 0:01:08 | |
extent was it for you personally a
voyage of discovery? It was very | 0:01:08 | 0:01:14 | |
much a voyage of discovery, I had to
do a lot of research into history I | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
had never heard of. I grew up in
America so history of Korea is very | 0:01:17 | 0:01:23 | |
minimal. I started with stories my
mother had told me, my grandmother | 0:01:23 | 0:01:31 | |
had mentioned and I went from there.
Many people picking up the book in | 0:01:31 | 0:01:36 | |
this country will be startled to
realise that anybody going into the | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
Second World War as a Korean had
been living under what we might call | 0:01:39 | 0:01:46 | |
Japanese occupation for 25 years.
Definitely. My grandfather was a boy | 0:01:46 | 0:01:52 | |
during the Japanese occupation so he
grew up speaking Japanese and had a | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
Japanese name. This is he couldn't
express anything in Korean and had | 0:01:56 | 0:02:02 | |
to hide that. The two sisters at the
centre of this book who live by the | 0:02:02 | 0:02:09 | |
sea and do all the things you do to
keep yourself going, to find things | 0:02:09 | 0:02:14 | |
that can be sold and make a living,
they are in a sense holding onto a | 0:02:14 | 0:02:19 | |
culture which they feel inside
themselves as permanently under | 0:02:19 | 0:02:24 | |
threat. It actually was. They are
really the only divers on the island | 0:02:24 | 0:02:32 | |
and the Japanese prise them, so they
would take a lot of them to Japan to | 0:02:32 | 0:02:38 | |
dive, so to stay in that small area
they were lucky and to be able to do | 0:02:38 | 0:02:43 | |
it themselves. Lucky but we have to
see what happens to them on this | 0:02:43 | 0:02:48 | |
story cannot be described as lucky,
they undergo appalling deprivation | 0:02:48 | 0:02:53 | |
and are taken effectively to a
brothel for Japanese soldiers. We | 0:02:53 | 0:02:58 | |
see what happens to one of them
there and it is a very seeding | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
expedients for a young girl. Your
call theme is the relationship | 0:03:02 | 0:03:09 | |
between these two can triumph over
even disaster. I feel like the bonds | 0:03:09 | 0:03:18 | |
between the two, one taken to a
brothel, keeps her going and gives | 0:03:18 | 0:03:25 | |
her hope, whereas for her sister,
being left behind and having to go | 0:03:25 | 0:03:30 | |
through the Korean War without her
sister, give said a lot of survivors | 0:03:30 | 0:03:35 | |
guilt, so that wine is the story
together. And we should see that the | 0:03:35 | 0:03:41 | |
sister you speak of, we meet in the
21st-century looking back on this | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
experience, and thinking about it
and reflecting on it, although a | 0:03:45 | 0:03:51 | |
tragic story with elements of hope.
I hope so. I am glad you say that, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:58 | |
because the comfort women's story is
very dark. A lot of these women | 0:03:58 | 0:04:05 | |
didn't survive, 200,000 I think were
sent away to these brothels. Which | 0:04:05 | 0:04:10 | |
is a story most evil here want now.
You didn't even know. I didn't, I | 0:04:10 | 0:04:16 | |
was in my 20s by the time I heard
this. I was very confused and spoke | 0:04:16 | 0:04:21 | |
to my mother. Effectively a couple
of hundred thousand women who were | 0:04:21 | 0:04:27 | |
used as sex slaves. And didn't make
it back home. There were only around | 0:04:27 | 0:04:34 | |
250 registered voter at large
number. It is curious timing that | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
this because a at the moment when
people are trying to find out more | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
about the Korean Peninsula for
obvious reasons to do with | 0:04:42 | 0:04:47 | |
contemporary politics. It is a
curious accident of timing. Korea is | 0:04:47 | 0:04:54 | |
on more people's let's than it has
for a long time. Which for me is | 0:04:54 | 0:05:00 | |
great because I grew up in a small
suburb of Texas and people saw me | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
and thought Japanese, Chinese. This
I always thought one day I will | 0:05:04 | 0:05:12 | |
write about Korea and people will
know where it is and who looks | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
Korean! It is a story of truth that
occurs that there is still some | 0:05:15 | 0:05:21 | |
question about. For me, it is very
important to remember these women | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
who are now in their 80s. A
forgotten tribe, almost. And they | 0:05:25 | 0:05:31 | |
are not in the history books. Before
the last one passes away it would be | 0:05:31 | 0:05:39 | |
wonderful if all these books have
that in there. You talk about your | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
mother being born just at the end of
the Korean War in the 1950s. How | 0:05:43 | 0:05:49 | |
much did she know and when did she
know it about what happened to match | 0:05:49 | 0:05:55 | |
this I don't think she's ever talked
about it. When I found out I asked | 0:05:55 | 0:06:01 | |
and she said well everybody knows
about that, it is not news. It was | 0:06:01 | 0:06:06 | |
known but not spoken of? Yes. Under
the dictatorships, they were not | 0:06:06 | 0:06:13 | |
allowed to speak about the
atrocities of the past whether the | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
Second World War of the Korean War.
It was frowned upon, you could get | 0:06:17 | 0:06:22 | |
into trouble and sent to jail and it
wasn't until the 1980s when you had | 0:06:22 | 0:06:28 | |
democracy and freedom that it
started coming out and you had one | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
in's groups coming forward. The
families must have known and they | 0:06:30 | 0:06:36 | |
must have had to imagine, a very
cruel thing to imagine, they must | 0:06:36 | 0:06:43 | |
have had to picture what happened to
their children for example but | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
without really knowing. A lot of
them also had to ignore it. They | 0:06:47 | 0:06:53 | |
couldn't think about it, so taboo.
What sort of Germany was it for you | 0:06:53 | 0:06:59 | |
yourself, we talked about the
exploration into Korean history. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:07 | |
What about the emotional feeling,
when you had written this story and | 0:07:07 | 0:07:12 | |
try to imagine how Emi felt, looking
back to innocent days with her | 0:07:12 | 0:07:19 | |
sister and then what had happened,
emotionally what to do you? It was a | 0:07:19 | 0:07:28 | |
bit course, at Lansdowne, because
customer happy moments. Also just | 0:07:28 | 0:07:33 | |
the melancholy and sadness. As a
writer I have to pretend like I am | 0:07:33 | 0:07:39 | |
looking through it in order to get
backbone. -- but down. That is also | 0:07:39 | 0:07:49 | |
the potential of guilt and feeling I
have never had to experience | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
anything like this. How can I
presume to picture the emotional | 0:07:52 | 0:07:58 | |
state of people who have gone
through something I cannot even | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
imagine, it is quite a tricky thing
to do, doing it for the first time. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
Very much so. This I was a unique
situation. I got to listen to them | 0:08:05 | 0:08:16 | |
tell their stories and see how they
reacted and how they felt and the | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
emotion they went through. That's my
entire childhood. We should see the | 0:08:19 | 0:08:29 | |
title of the book, White
Chrysanthemum, is a reference to the | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
traditional flower of morning in
Korea. If you see any funerals they | 0:08:32 | 0:08:38 | |
have a picture of the deceased,
chrysanthemums left next to the | 0:08:38 | 0:08:44 | |
picture.
Mary Lynn Bracht, thank you very | 0:08:44 | 0:08:49 | |
much. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:58 |