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author MG Leonard about her book Beetle Boy. | :00:00. | :00:08. | |
When a boy 's father disappears he has to try to find him. The | :00:09. | :00:14. | |
youngster sets out to solve the mystery and to bring him back with | :00:15. | :00:21. | |
the help of unexpected insect helpers led by a beetle the size of | :00:22. | :00:28. | |
a hamster. In Beetle Boy, he discovers a world of adventure. | :00:29. | :00:31. | |
It's more exciting and dangerous than anything he's already imagined. | :00:32. | :00:56. | |
It is a story in classic mould a disappearance, a mystery, and | :00:57. | :01:04. | |
unexpected friend in time of need. In this case a beetle who doesn't | :01:05. | :01:11. | |
speak. What do you think it is that grips us in stories of this kind? I | :01:12. | :01:17. | |
think there's something in all of us that wants to identify with strong | :01:18. | :01:24. | |
characters that are guided by positive and moral principles. It's | :01:25. | :01:28. | |
the question of doing the right thing, being brave, being valiant, | :01:29. | :01:33. | |
struggling with your fears that I think so fascinating. We do it as | :01:34. | :01:36. | |
adults but we often disguise the fact we do it. I think stories like | :01:37. | :01:41. | |
who have a child confronting those decisions for the first time are | :01:42. | :01:47. | |
universal. Like all stories there is a moral, he wants to find out what | :01:48. | :01:53. | |
happened to his dad, it is a dark mystery. He confronts an evil woman | :01:54. | :02:00. | |
who at the end of the book escapes. He also discovers that the beetle | :02:01. | :02:06. | |
the size of a hamster which comes along and helps him with an army of | :02:07. | :02:11. | |
other Beatles, turns out to be a better friend than almost anyone he | :02:12. | :02:15. | |
has ever known. He has a couple of friends who will help them but the | :02:16. | :02:21. | |
beetle is better than most of us. I think quite often our closest | :02:22. | :02:26. | |
companions can be an animal. It is rare they are an insect but I became | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
fascinated with Japanese culture. Like we would have a pet hamster or | :02:32. | :02:36. | |
guinea pig, in Japan they actually have pet beetles which was a novel | :02:37. | :02:42. | |
thing to discover. There's something very alien about insects because | :02:43. | :02:45. | |
their skeletons are on the outside which means you can't read their | :02:46. | :02:51. | |
breath. It's harder to empathise with a creature that has an | :02:52. | :02:59. | |
exoskeleton. I saw the challenge of replicating the kind of love you can | :03:00. | :03:03. | |
have for a mammal. The beetle turned out to be a great friend and | :03:04. | :03:07. | |
companion in the hour of danger. It all works out OK with the one | :03:08. | :03:12. | |
exception I mention. You obviously made a decision that the Beatles | :03:13. | :03:19. | |
shouldn't speak, why? I did experiment with speech in the | :03:20. | :03:23. | |
beginning but it seemed rather cute. This isn't acute story. It didn't | :03:24. | :03:30. | |
work. I work at the National Theatre and we have had a very successful | :03:31. | :03:37. | |
production of War horse. It is a beautiful and moving production. At | :03:38. | :03:40. | |
the heart of that show is a horse and a boy who have this relationship | :03:41. | :03:47. | |
and there's no speech. They communicate through gesture which | :03:48. | :03:51. | |
gave me the idea. It struck me that the whole thing could have been a | :03:52. | :03:55. | |
dream. If you said at the end he thought about this and woke up, his | :03:56. | :04:00. | |
father was safe and it was OK. There's a interesting point there, | :04:01. | :04:04. | |
which is that for children crossing that line, to a beetle that comes | :04:05. | :04:12. | |
along and joins in the hunt, there's nothing strange about that. If it | :04:13. | :04:16. | |
wants to help that's fine. Then he sees the pile of beetles and he says | :04:17. | :04:23. | |
it was the most alien and beautiful thing he had ever seen. Just because | :04:24. | :04:28. | |
it's alien doesn't mean it isn't beautiful or friendly. Yes, and I | :04:29. | :04:35. | |
think I should say, I'm not a scientist or an entomologist. When I | :04:36. | :04:39. | |
started writing the book I had an acute fear of insects. I think when | :04:40. | :04:43. | |
you are really terrified of something, when you're really | :04:44. | :04:48. | |
genuinely frightened, you observe it acutely. You're not saying this as a | :04:49. | :04:52. | |
psychological exercise to get over your fear? That wasn't the aim. It | :04:53. | :05:00. | |
was a by-product. Now I'm not frightened of insects but I would | :05:01. | :05:04. | |
love gardening but I'd put on Wellington boots and gloves in case | :05:05. | :05:10. | |
one got on me. Then I realised it was my ignorance that had led to | :05:11. | :05:14. | |
that fear and through doing the research for this book and learning | :05:15. | :05:17. | |
a lot about them, that fear melted away. We shouldn't make it sound as | :05:18. | :05:24. | |
if you've written a moral treat is. You've written an old-fashioned kids | :05:25. | :05:29. | |
adventure story. We've talked about how elemental these stories are and | :05:30. | :05:32. | |
how attractive they are. I know you've got two children of your own. | :05:33. | :05:38. | |
I wonder how you feel about the way that book shops particularly now try | :05:39. | :05:45. | |
to fit books two age groups. You've got a shelf for eight-year-olds and | :05:46. | :05:49. | |
a shelf for ten-year-olds. I think a lot of authors find that a bit | :05:50. | :05:54. | |
silly. What do you think? It's not something that occurs to you when | :05:55. | :05:57. | |
you start writing a book, that there is a limited age. It is for | :05:58. | :06:02. | |
everyone. It's written in my narrative voice. The protagonists | :06:03. | :06:07. | |
are children but it never occurred to me until I ventured into the | :06:08. | :06:11. | |
world of publishing that it was going to be recommended to a | :06:12. | :06:16. | |
specific age group. When it was and it was 8-14, I was quite surprised. | :06:17. | :06:23. | |
For me some of it is quite dark. It is also quite limited. I mentioned | :06:24. | :06:30. | |
the ending where things turn all right for Darkus the boy but the | :06:31. | :06:34. | |
nasty person disappears. It is very difficult to read this book, and | :06:35. | :06:39. | |
this is a compliment, without thinking that you must have been | :06:40. | :06:46. | |
influenced by Roald Dahl. The grease and the grotesque. The evil | :06:47. | :06:48. | |
character in a sense could have stepped out of the Witches. Quite a | :06:49. | :06:56. | |
lot of the secondary felons could have come out of Roald Dahl. I read | :06:57. | :07:01. | |
him a lot when I was young and I was struck by how brutal he could be | :07:02. | :07:06. | |
about how nasty adults are capable of being. I think he was honest. You | :07:07. | :07:11. | |
have a ten-year-old and a younger child, did you read test this? I | :07:12. | :07:17. | |
have a ten-year-old who doesn't love to read. You read this book two | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
weeks ago and I had to bribe him with time on the computer. What was | :07:22. | :07:27. | |
his reaction? He was surprised, he was gripped by the story. At the end | :07:28. | :07:32. | |
he said, actually that's quite good. It's the first book he's read that | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
isn't highly illustrated. He reads a lot of Tom Gates and things with | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
pictures. This is the first book read without and I was impressed he | :07:42. | :07:47. | |
got to the end. Talking about your first book, MG Leonard, thank you. | :07:48. | :08:00. | |
Good evening. The Easter break upon us the weather has turn to an | :08:01. | :08:08. | |
non-settled team. Things turning wet and windy for many of us during the | :08:09. | :08:10. | |
day on | :08:11. | :08:12. |