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Now it's time for Meet the Author. | 0:00:00 | 0:00:07 | |
There is something about Louisa
Clarke, Lou, that has turned the | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
novels of Jojo Moyes into
international bestsellers. She's a | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
heroine whose life appeals to
readers who do not want to let her | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
go. Now after me before you and
after you, Kums Still Me, in which | 0:00:18 | 0:00:25 | |
Lou fetches up in New York in a
different worlds, as personal | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
assistant to a socialite whose rich
family holds out a few secrets. What | 0:00:29 | 0:00:34 | |
will happen to Lou's old boyfriend,
paramedic Sam, when she meets and | 0:00:34 | 0:00:39 | |
falls for an American who bears a
spooky resemblance to an old flame | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
she knew before Sam? If you are a
reader who follows blue, you will | 0:00:43 | 0:00:48 | |
want to know. Welcome. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:53 | |
What do you think it is about Lou
that makes us such a compelling | 0:01:06 | 0:01:14 | |
character for your readers? I think
she's every woman, the fact she is | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
on the surface such an ordinary
person makes a very easy for a wide | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
variety of people to identify with,
but she also has an inherent | 0:01:22 | 0:01:27 | |
goodness. Not necessarily a
niceness, because she can be sharp. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
But there is no us narked to her and
in an age of snarkiness, people find | 0:01:31 | 0:01:37 | |
that refreshing. In this book she is
transported to a new job in New | 0:01:37 | 0:01:44 | |
York, and she finds herself in a
family, a slightly weird family, of | 0:01:44 | 0:01:49 | |
course, because that's what stories
are made of, and she is thrown into | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
the social world of very rich New
York life. Of course, it squarely | 0:01:52 | 0:02:00 | |
completely beyond her experience.
Part of the joy of having a | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
character you can revisit is to put
them in an alien landscape. There's | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
not much more alien than the fifth
Ave social world. Something I found | 0:02:06 | 0:02:14 | |
interesting about Louisa's position
is that when you enter the world of | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
the very rich or the super-rich,
they are people who have become | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
accustomed to having people living
around them, they are observed at | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
all times yet they have to live as
if they are not. There is that | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
inherent tension between the people
who are serving them and the people | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
who are living, that I find really
interesting. Without going into | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
details, I don't want to spoil the
plot for those who will enjoy | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
reading the book, but it all comes
unstuck for her in a pretty to | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
refine way. It's sort of put back
together again which fulfils your | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
reassuring criteria, but I like the
description of the Everywoman, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:54 | |
because you do sense that this is
somebody who is going through | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
something we can all imagine. We can
feel what it's like for her. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:03 | |
Exactly, when I might Louisa I try
to really put the reader into her | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
shoes. You feel things as she feels
them, it's almost like, I don't | 0:03:05 | 0:03:13 | |
know, inhabiting somebody's skin in
that's quite different if you are | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
writing in third person. I found it
very easy to pull people along with | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
Louisa. We are inside Louisa, Lou,
her love life is a bit of a mess in | 0:03:21 | 0:03:27 | |
this situation, in New York. Sam on
the paramedic, who is her man back | 0:03:27 | 0:03:32 | |
in London, he turns up. That's all
very nice but she has an encounter | 0:03:32 | 0:03:38 | |
with someone who reminds of another
man. I don't think it's too much of | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
a spoiler to say Josh reminds her of
will, but when I speak to people you | 0:03:42 | 0:03:48 | |
have lost someone, they see them
everywhere. That can be quite | 0:03:48 | 0:03:53 | |
discombobulated, because I think you
don't just see them in the street, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
you project onto them, and I think
that is something that happens a bit | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
in this book. Do you ever find
yourself getting a bit fed up of | 0:04:01 | 0:04:06 | |
her? This is the third outing,
clearly she's very successful so you | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
are fond of her in that sense, but
do you everything, oh, I must think | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
of something else for her to do?
That's it, this is the third book, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
from the day I was writing but two I
saw it as a trilogy, a horseshoe | 0:04:17 | 0:04:22 | |
shaped trilogy. So that is it. I
actually felt really sad to let her | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
go because you know what it's like,
some characters come to life | 0:04:26 | 0:04:35 | |
immediately, others you can write
off a book and still not be entirely | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
sure who they are and that can be
really frustrating because they | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
don't lift off the page in the right
way. With Lou, as with well in the | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
first book, they landed fully formed
in my lap. I knew what their | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
responses would be in any situation
and that made it an easy thing to | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
write. It's a great gift for an
author to have that sense of the | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
character, fully formed. How did
that come about? What was it about | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
her that allowed you to have that
clear idea of how she would respond | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
to any challenge? It was quite
bizarre, I sometimes have scenes | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
into my head and it was the scene in
the first book where they are | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
dancing at a wedding and she is
sitting on his lap, a man in a | 0:05:11 | 0:05:16 | |
motorised wheelchair, she slow
dances with him at a wedding to the | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
appalled fascination of the other
guests, and he says to her, because | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
she's sort of year, you would have
never let those breasts so close to | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
me if I hadn't been in a wheelchair,
and you said you would not have | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
noticed my breasts if you were not
in a wheelchair. And in that moment | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
I knew who they both were and how
well they understood each other. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
It's interesting that you describe
that seem almost in filmic terms. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
Are you one of those writers who
almost imagines in a way that you | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
are behind a camera, which is moving
and picking up scenes? Absolutely. I | 0:05:47 | 0:05:53 | |
had to play a seen through filmic
Lee in my head to see if it will | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
work. I lie on the floor of my
office and run through lots of | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
different varieties. There are
writers who, and is quite difficult | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
to understand this, but you don't
see it in that way, don't see it | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
like a stage with people walking in
and off and the camera moving. But | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
they have some sort of different
mental process. It's quite a | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
difficult thing to grasp. I'm always
fascinated by how other writers do | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
it because you just never know. I
don't understand writers who don't | 0:06:20 | 0:06:25 | |
plot, I can't imagine the fear of
stepping off into the unknown and | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
not knowing roughly way your
characters will land. Some writers | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
say they are terrified by the idea
of having it all written out, with | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
the Ark of the story or whatever,
cliche we choose to apply. They must | 0:06:35 | 0:06:42 | |
set off on the white ocean and see
where the boat ends up. You can't do | 0:06:42 | 0:06:47 | |
that? I have a rough idea. Four
times out of five, it will deviate | 0:06:47 | 0:06:53 | |
quite significantly. You will invent
things as you go. Characters run | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
away with the plot and all the rest,
but I have to have a rough idea of | 0:06:56 | 0:07:01 | |
theme if nothing else. My constant
question to myself is, what is the | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
story really about? I'm sure if
there were a group of readers here, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
they would say to you, if they were
keen on the books and had enjoyed | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
them, they would say, why are you
taking her away and they would ask | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
you the inevitable question authors
are doomed to answer, what happens | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
to her afterwards? I quite like the
idea that that might be in the | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
reader 's imagination. Me before you
was an odd book because it was | 0:07:24 | 0:07:30 | |
peculiarly open ended, we ended up
with her walking away in a street in | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
Paris, and I found I kept asking
myself the question, what would | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
happen to you after being part of
such a catastrophic life changing | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
event? If you were part of somebody
ending their life, you could not | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
walk away from that with a bouncing
off stride. Even if you thought you | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
were OK, it would come back with a
terrible kind of profound resonance | 0:07:50 | 0:07:55 | |
in your life. The question, that was
really the question. What happens | 0:07:55 | 0:08:04 | |
next? But I feel like she's done
now. I don't want people to think | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
I'm flogging a stripey legged dead
horse, so I might revisit her in a | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
short story one day. Our! But as
novels go, that's it. Readers are | 0:08:12 | 0:08:19 | |
free to imagine she lives more or
less happily ever after. I think | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
they will have to read the book and
the side. Jojo Moyes, author of | 0:08:23 | 0:08:28 | |
Still Me, thank you very much. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 |