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Hello, this is Monday in Parliament, our look at the day in Westminster.

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Should Whitehall's top staff have noticed

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One senior civil servant admits he did pause before the agreement

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I will be powerfully honest, I wasn't totally comfortable with it.

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I was never totally comfortable, it was an issue I found a close call

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and a difficult one. The pilot

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of a yellow card scheme for benefits sanctions is hailed by the SNP

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as a sign the system is failing Why is the Government waiting until

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next year to bring in this pilot scheme and in the meantime Willie

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please stop sanctioning people that are seriously ill?

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And should British long-term expats have a role

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One peer points out how their lives could change.

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Where they need to apply to become a citizen of the country they live

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in? Without even be possible? Will they pass any financial or a

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language requirements? What will happen to their health care

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arrangements? But first, two senior civil servants

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have told MPs the collapsed charity Kids

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Company got no special treatment. But giving evidence to the Public

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Accounts Committee, both admitted The former Cabinet Office Permanent

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Secretary, Richard Heaton, spoke of the decision to give

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Kids Company ?4 million in one go as The committee chair, Meg Hillier,

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began by referring to a report and setting out the job description

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of the two witnesses. They represent the top people

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of the Civil Service, their accounting officers are

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supposed to stand up to ministerial pressure and if necessary, require

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a letter of direction to locate the responsibility on Ministers

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when they override advice. In the case of Kids Company,

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as this report clearly shows, officials have been aware

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of the problems for 13 years, and Kids Company has been passed

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around Whitehall like a hot potato, Kids Company was a charity

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which Ministers and the Government collectively supported over many

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years. The Prime Minister said

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as much last week. The section 17 of the Charities Act,

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which was the power Ministers have defined

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charities, is a fairly broad one. It is entirely proper for Ministers

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to decide which charities in Our job as officials was to make

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sure that any support Ministers wished to give any charity,

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including Kids Company, was within managing public money and wants

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a decision was made, that it was properly implemented in a way that

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delivered value for the taxpayer. You gave, in a task

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of over two years, something like Which, if that was all they were

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delivering, was at a cost of They exceeded that, as

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the report says, by a factor of 25. Which obviously,

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as you have just said, might indeed be indicative of the fact that they

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were doing fantastic work. It might also be indicative

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of the fact that the actual criteria Richard Heaton was asked

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whether alarm bells had rung when Kids Company asked

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for ?4 million in one chunk. You didn't consider seeking

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a ministerial direction In the way that you

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did six weeks later. OK, I will be perfectly honest,

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I wasn't totally comfortable with it, no, I was never totally

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comfortable with it. It was an issue that I found a close

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call and quite a difficult one. But I thought we had sufficient

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evidence to suggest that this charity could be put

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on a sustainable footing, because of the indications and

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the capability they were building. It wasn't an open and shut case

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at all. And I did consider a direction,

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but I... And the second part of my question

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was, at that time, did you consider seeking a ministerial direction

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for that 4.5 million, in the way No, I considered it

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and discussed it with officials, my team that I chose, but I decided

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that I didn't require direction. But I did consider it. Within weeks

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of the 4.3 million, we were, I have to say, startled, shocked,

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surprised, for the charity to come to the Government and ask for more

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emergency funding. It was astonishing. The charity had

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apparently spent our money and was already requiring more emergency

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funding. White at any point did no one say, try it yourself first? Why

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on Earth is not be named ministerial direction all the way through? Your

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judgment and that of your judgment and that of your

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predecessors has been flawed. It seems there has never been a point

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at which you have said, we are not really making what we would like.

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While the work they were doing was very interesting. ?6,000 worth of

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the children who needed it would have revolutionised the world. For

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the period of, this organisation was competitive bids for schemes,

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fulfilling those schemes being monitored and appeared to be.

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Delivering that the outputs that we had set out in the bid. On the

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questions of ministerial directions, that did not arise because the

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Government was getting for its pounds what the charity had set out

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in its bid. Politicians will have lots of pressures on them to make

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decisions, good bad, you are responsible for watching

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taxpayers's of money so it has been instructed to hear what you have to

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say. Our report will be coming out shortly. It is important that the

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learning lessons you have highlighted frankly strike us as

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rather staggering, that these are things that were not asked some time

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before today, when everything has gone belly up.

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Now, doubts about the Government's controversial bill giving

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Housing Association tenants the right-to-buy have been voiced

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Labour MPs feared that too few homes-to-rent would be

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And several Tory MPs wanted guarantees that there'd be

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But the Government insisted it was a good deal.

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And the Minister read out an e-mail from one enthusiatic tenant.

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I'm absolutely eternally grateful to everyone in the

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Conservative Government that has helped push this forward.

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I absolutely cannot wait until the point, hopefully in 2016,

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where I can be holding the keys to the house that I own, a house that

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will be my savings for the future, a house that will allow me to pass

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Please, please, pass on my very heartfelt gratitude

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to everyone involved in ensuring that this was made a reality.

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Mr Speaker, these are the people, up and down the country,

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that this policy, agreed with the Housing Associations,

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As this lady made clear, it is giving the chance to fulfil a dream

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Can the Secretary of State explain how selling Housing Association

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properties, subsidising that sale by selling council properties, half of

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the stock, in the case of my local authority, reducing local authority

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incomes to build properties by reducing rent and allowing

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developers to get away without building any social homes, how does

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that help the thousands of people in housing need in my constituency?

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I will come on to address the points that the honourable gentleman makes.

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But I will say at this point, the reason that it helps is that we

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are requiring that there is a new home built for every home that

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And this will improve the housing stock in London.

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Given that the bill fails to include any legal commitment to replace

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social homes that are sold under right to buy on a one-to-one basis,

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will he accept that selling off valuable council homes to fund the

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expansion of right to buy means that we are losing two social homes to

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rent in return for just one social home to buy?

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The honourable lady will find that actually,

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the rate of additional stock that is being provided in response to

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the reinvigorated council right to buy is running at over one-to-one.

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The agreement that we have been able to reach with the Housing

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Associations makes it very clear, and if the honourable lady hasn't

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had a copy of that, I will make sure that she has a copy, that these

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homes will be replaced on at least a one-for-one basis. I shouldn't

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say replaced, because of course, the homes that continue to be

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occupied, they trigger an additional home that is being built.

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Like the cuts to tax credits, this bill is the Chancellor's work,

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with his political fingerprints all over it.

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It is a bill that makes the same mistakes as the tax credits.

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Divide and rule politics overriding good policy.

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And like tax credits, it faces a looming row on all fronts.

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Above all, it fails the same low and middle

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income working families that the Tories claim they will represent.

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It will lead to a huge loss of affordable homes to rent and buy,

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and be a huge let down for those who believed the Tory election pledges.

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It is a bill that will prove to be bad policy and bad politics.

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It will be a slow burn problem, all the way to 2020.

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And we will oppose it in the voting lobbies tonight.

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I want to amend this bill to guarantee that it works

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We should extend the right to buy, but at the same time, we must gain

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significant numbers of low-cost homes, and we know that is possible.

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So, the amendment that I will table after this debate today will ask for

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a binding guarantee that London will see a net gain in affordable housing

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A guarantee that in addition to the replaced Housing Association

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homes, London will see at least two low-cost homes built for every

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That is the intent of the amendment that I will table today.

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Along, I have to say, with the support of every single backbench

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Conservative colleague representing the London constituency.

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Conservative colleague representing a London constituency.

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And I strongly urge the Government to work with us to help us deliver

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Over recent years, there has been no like-for-like replacement

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of affordable homes sold, under the existing right to buy scheme.

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The Secretary of State couldn't dispute

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his own department's figures, which I put to him, in London since

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2012, only one in seven council homes sold have been replaced.

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So, how can anyone believe there will be any difference this time?

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There is nothing in the bill to guarantee money must

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be reinvested in the local area, replacing like-for-like sold homes.

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The Department for Work and Pensions has carried out

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around 60 investigations into suicides among people who had

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At Prime Minister's Questions last week, the SNP leader at

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Westminster, Angus Robertson, called for the reports to be published.

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His SNP colleagues have been keeping up the pressure.

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But the Work and Pensions Minister, Priti Patel, told them it would be

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We all in side concerned about the terrible damage the ideological cuts

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being made are doing to the most vulnerable in our society. The last

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two weeks, my right honourable friend has asked the Prime Minister

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about suicides following on from benefit reductions. Will the

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Minister publish the details of these investigations were flipped?

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-- forthwith. The department carries out reviews to identify whether any

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lessons can be mad but I should emphasise that the Information

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Commissioner has considered this issue and has upheld the decision

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not to publish these because of the level of personal information

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contained and for that reason it would be unlawful to release this

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information. Thank you, Mr Speaker. In 2014, the Scottish Association

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for mental health cost of an's leading mental health charity,

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published research which found that 90% of their service users said they

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mental health had deteriorated as a direct result of welfare reform.

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Further research this year by the same charity in the facility they

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run in my constituency confirmed that benefits sanctions mean -- are

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detrimental to the mental health service users there. What starts

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with Government take to address the adverse effects benefits sanctions

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on those with mental problems? Well, first of all, let me start by saying

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that sanctions play an important part in the labour market and

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encourage people and support them to go back to work and specifically

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with regards to support for claimants with mental health

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conditions, our staff are trained to support individuals with conditions

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during their job search and they also have access to more expert

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advice should it be needed. People with mental health problems do have

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particular barriers to get them back into the labour market and into

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productive work. With the Minister agree that the Government should be

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taking all steps to ensure that people with mental health problems

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are not sanctions unnecessarily and they should be showed flexibility

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around making sure they get back into the jobs market?

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A few weeks ago, the Department for Work and Pensions

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announced that it would be trialling a warning system

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to alert claimants to possible sanctions.

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Before the Government is able to report to the House on the impact

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of a good warning system to people that there may be sanctions coming

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down the road, they will need to begin the trials.

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Is there any chance of the Minister today telling us

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when the trials will begin and when they will be completed?

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Well, I thank the Chair of the Select

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Committee and I can tell him we are working out the details now and I'll

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be very happy to discuss further details as to when we'll be rolling

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The so-called yellow card pilot scheme is actually an admission

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by the Government that the sanctions regime isn't working

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at the present time and is particularly badly failing people

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Why is the Government waiting until next year to bring in this pilot

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scheme and in the meantime will they please just stop sanctioning people

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What I'd say to the honourable lady is that I would

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respectfully disagree with her on the point she is making.

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Claimants are only asked to meet reasonable requirements taking

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into account their circumstances and I think, as she will find with the

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pilots as they get under way, that this is about how we can integrate

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support for claimants and, importantly, provide them with

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the support and guidance to help them get back to work.

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There is no evidence to suggest mental health claimants are being

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We provide the support through our job centres

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and our claimants are only asked to meet reasonable requirements.

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Mr Speaker, the Minister may have inadvertently slipped up there.

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There is clear evidence from last year that 58% of people with mental

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health conditions on employment support allowance work-related

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Obviously that is over half and that's equivalent to 105,000

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people, 83% in a Mind survey, saying their health condition was

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The Minister replied that the sanction system was kept under

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constant review, but it plays an important part in the labour market.

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You're watching Monday in Parliament on BBC Parliament.

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Top civil servants have admitted there are lessons to be learned from

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the collapse of the charity Kids Company, but insists the charity was

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Still to come, questions about the human rights record

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as Egypt's president meets with a dry response in the House of Lords.

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We are rushing around trying to sell arms to one of

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the most barbarous regimes, to Saudi Arabia, one of the most barbarous

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Wouldn't it be discriminatory to even think of excluding...

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President Sisi from these human rights abusers?

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But first, should all British citizens living across the

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European Union be given a vote in EU's upcoming EU in-out referendum?

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That demand was rejected by the Government as the House

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of Lords debated the EU Referendum Bill, which sets out

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The idea was put forward by the Liberal Democrat Lady Miller.

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These British expats in the EU will be facing

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a giant step into the unknown should the vote be to exit the EU.

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Will they need to apply to become citizens

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Would they pass any financial or language requirements?

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What would happen to their healthcare arrangements?

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How quickly would reciprocal arrangements cease?

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These have all been raised with me by very worried people.

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We have been encouraging our firms and our citizens to take

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full advantage of the economic opportunities that are offered

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by the European Union and that involves, for many people, working

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We do not know where these people are, in which countries, or indeed,

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We don't know where they live, we're going to have difficulties

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contacting them and I'm just nervous that if we make

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a commitment that we cannot meet, it will end up in a mess.

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The best criteria is to have the Westminster franchise.

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Of course I'm entirely sympathetic to much that lies behind this

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amendment, having regard to the Government's commitment in respect

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of votes for life, but I should finally point out that many British

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citizens living in the EU and elsewhere in the world will be

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able to vote in this referendum as long as they have not been living

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The parliamentary franchise already allows them to vote.

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So whilst sympathetic to this amendment,

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I do not believe this is the time or place to make those changes.

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Lady Miller withdrew her amendment on the EU Referendum Bill,

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but peers are expected to return to the subject at later stages.

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Now, concerns have been raised about Egypt's human rights record ahead of

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The Government has defended its decision, describing Egypt

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The human rights campaigner Labour's Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws

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explained why she felt the visit to Downing Street was inappropriate.

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Is the Minister aware that Sisi has been responsible for the murder of

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He has used torture and rape on dissidents, imprisoned tens

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of thousands of political opponents, including elected MPs.

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He has denied medical aid to people in prison, he's been responsible for

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In fact, Egypt is becoming an incubator for

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He's employed extrajudicial killing and has held trials, because he's

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corrupted the judiciary, held trials where the death penalty has been

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passed on people after very swift trials on very little evidence,

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including on a young woman who is a student at

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She's there studying for a Masters degree and now is forced into exile.

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Is this a man who should be invited to Downing Street?

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And are we going to confront him with his tyranny?

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My Lords, the noble Baroness mentioned a number of different

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It is in Britain's interests to work with President Sisi.

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Together we need to combat terrorism,

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we need to counter extremism and help bring stability to Libya.

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We also need to talk candidly about Egypt's long-term future.

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Reform that revitalises the economy and political progress

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that is the foundation of the long-term stability.

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My Lords, we've lavished hospitality recently on the President of China,

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where there is gross abuse of human rights, as we heard earlier in an

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answer to an earlier question, and where the ruling clique presume to

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tell people how many children they can and cannot have.

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Shortly, we'll be lavishing similar hospitality to Narendra Modi,

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who until recently was excluded from this country and the United

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States for possible genocide against the Muslim community in India.

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We are rushing around trying to sell arms to one of

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the most barbarous regimes, Saudi Arabia, one of the most barbarous

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Wouldn't it be discriminatory to even think of excluding

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President Sisi from these human rights abusers?

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We want to see more progress in Egypt.

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Better protection of Egyptians' constitutional rights,

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freedom of expression, more space for NGOs and civil society.

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Our relationship with Egypt lets us raise these issues.

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Ministers and officials regularly do so and the President's forthcoming

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visit is a further opportunity to raise issues of concern.

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Would the Minister please confirm that the UK will unequivocally raise

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concerns about the flagrant and wide-ranging abuses of human rights

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And can the Minister confirm also that there

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will be absolutely no negotiation or agreement on the transfer

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of any arms or equipment that could be used for internal repression?

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My Lords, as I said before, we will raise these issues with

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As far as the arms situation is concerned, as the noble Baroness is

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aware, this is a highly regulated regime and we try to ensure that

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Egypt remains subject to the EU Foreign Affairs Council over this

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This suspension means licenses are suspended

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if we judge that they might be used in internal repression.

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We assess all applications for Egypt against the FAC threshold

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My Lords, is it not always the prime duty of the British Government

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of whatever party to protect the interests of the United Kingdom?

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That means, very often, talking to people and welcoming

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people whose internal policies we may not wholly approve of?

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The noble Lord has just mentioned one or two.

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The President should be made welcome, but it should also be

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in no doubt that there are concerns in this country about certain

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Egypt, yes, is on the front line in the war against Isil

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It is the biggest country in the Arab world.

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The biggest destination for British tourists with almost one million

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It is also hosting people displaced by crises in neighbouring countries.

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And finally, at the start of the day, Labour's

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Chief Whip, Rosie Winterton, launched the process for the

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Oldham West and Royton by-election following the death last month of

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Michael Meacher, who was a Labour MP for 45 years and a former Minister.

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I beg to move Mr Speaker to issue his warrant to the clerk of the

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Crown to make out a new writ for the electing of a Member to serve

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in this present Parliament for the borough constituency of Oldham West

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and Royton in the room of the Right Honourable Michael Hugh

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The question is that I do issue my warrant to the clerk of the Crown

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to make out a new writ for the electing of the member to serve

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in the present Parliament for the borough constituency of Oldham West

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and Royton in the room of the Right Honourable Michael Hugh

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As many as are of the opinion say aye.

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It will be the first by-election of this Parliament and it will be

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Georgina Pattinson is here for the rest of the week.

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