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Hello and welcome to Monday in Parliament, our look

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Asleep at the wheel - Labour's verdict as over a thousand

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They have been losing ?1 million a day as a result of this slump in

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steel prices. All that the industry has asked for, including the unions,

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is a level playing field and that is what we are achieving.

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Recriminations on Trident at Defence Questions -

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including from a former shadow defence minister.

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Despite ill informed comments from my own party at the weekend, which

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he also agree with me that simply you cannot turn on and off like a

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tap when you need them? And an unusual thought

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on what motivates people It would be popular to inflict pain

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or submit pain by green policies. 50 shades of green, you might say.

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But first - news of over a thousand jobs lost in the steel industry

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was delivered to MPs by the business minister Anna Soubry.

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The cuts have been announced by Tata, with the majority

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Labour has accused the government of "warm words but very

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This morning, Tata Steel announced plans to make over 1,000

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redundancies across its UK strip business as part

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of its continuing restructuring plans.

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The proposals involve 750 job losses at Port Talbot,

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200 redundancies in support functions at Llanwern,

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and 100 redundancies at steel mills in Trostre,

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This will be a difficult time for all the workers

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and their families, and our thoughts must be with them.

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Our immediate focus will be on helping any workers

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who lose their jobs back into employment

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It is important to remember the fundamental problems facing our

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steel industry are the fall and the world price caused by the

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overproduction and under consumption of steel and we know for example

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that the prices have almost have it in the last 12 months and we also

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know that Tata have been losing ?1 million a day as a result of this

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slump in steel prices. All the industry has asked for and that

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includes the unions is a level playing field and that is what we

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are achieving. I can inform the House that the Government have been

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closely working with Tata to a singable future.

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Tata's announcement of 1,050 job losses across Port Talbot,

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Llanwern, Trostre, Corby and Hartlepool is devastating news

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for all the workers, their families and the close-knit

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This latest bombshell comes on top of job losses at Tata's Newport

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plant last year, along with thousands of job losses

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across the sector in the UK, including the complete

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At this time of crisis for the UK steel industry,

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all we seem to get from this Government is warm words but very

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The Government have been asleep at the wheel. They have not been tough

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enough with the Chinese are active and of what the European Union. They

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have made no concessions on the business rate system, which actively

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penalises those who invest in expensive infrastructure to improve

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productivity and there is no sign that their technical change to

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procurement rules as making any difference in the awarding of

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Government contracts to help our domestic industry. When are we going

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to get effective action from this Government and not just one words?

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-- warm. The Government need to ensure that

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every penny of public money spent, directly or indirectly,

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on steel procurement should be spent Is she now saying she has secured

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such changes in European law and rules that she can actually

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specify that all railway and construction steel paid

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for by Britain will be British? I'm amazed at the honourable

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gentleman taking such a view. We are good friends and we agree on many

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things. I think the most important point is that we have change these

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procurement rules and we're the first of any country in the EU. I

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can assure the minister that the people of my constituency

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are listening carefully constituency to what is being said today.

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I also assure her that there is palpable anger and frustration

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The claimed action on energy has still not been implemented.

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The claimed action on procurement amounts to so-called open

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advertising, while Hinkley Point has no British steel.

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The Government use the EU as an excuse for delay,

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while being China's chief cheerleader in Europe.

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This is all about all those men and women who work at Tata

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I pay tribute to some of the work that the hon Gentleman has done.

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I met the leader of Port Talbot port and I hope that we can continue that

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discussion, because there is much that can be done.

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I say to the hon Gentleman that it would really help if we all worked

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together on this, because we all agree.

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It was the box office event of the day -

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should Donald Trump be banned from entering the UK?

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Ahead of the debate, there was a lot of publicity -

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The debate was triggered by a petition signed by over half

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a million people condemning Mr Trump's proposal that Muslims

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MPs united to condemn the remarks made by Mr Trump,

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who wants to be the next US President.

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But there was strong disagreement over the imposition of a ban.

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There was a large turnout of Mps for the debate and the public

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It was held in the normally low-key surroundings of Westminster Hall.

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The Labour MP Paul Flynn kicked off proceedings.

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instances gone attention is that Mr Trump mocked a man for his

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disability in a cruel way and said to the people of Mexico that he

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would bundle them up as people who were rapists and drug abusers. He

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made degrading remarks about women and one is to suggest that Muslims

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should not be allowed into his country, which is an extraordinary

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and extremely dangerous thing to say.

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For all that, he didn't think Mr Trump should be banned.

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But a Labour colleague took a very different view.

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This online petition shows that when we feel we need to stop a poisonous

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man from entering our society, they will act in good conscience. This is

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a man who is extremely high profile, involved in the American show

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business industry for years, a man who is interviewing for the most

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important job in the world. I have heard large number

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of my constituents make similar Her views and those of Donald Trump,

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who thinks that Muslims are all the same,

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are strikingly similar. Does she think they should be

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expelled from the country for their views? It's not the same as as

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making a decision not to let people into the country whose views are

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falling short of Home Office guidance.

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But another Muslim MP said she would welcome Mr Trump

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I stand here as a proud British Muslim woman,

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and he would like me to be banned from America.

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I would not get a visa but my Islam and, as I understand it,

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Surah 41, verse 34 teaches me - this is not word for word,

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but what I take from my Koran - that goodness is better than evil.

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If someone does bad, you do good in return.

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Victoria Atkins didn't think Mr Trump should be banned

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His comments about Muslims are wrong.

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His policy to close borders, if he is elected as President,

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If he met one or two of my constituents in one

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of the many excellent pubs in my constituency,

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they may well tell him that he is a wazzock for dealing

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This is a man who seeks to be President of the United States

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of America, and we think we need to educate him.

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We should be very worried if a man lacking such education seeks

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Here is a buffoon and that should not be met with a bang but with the

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classic British response of ridicule. I thank the member for his

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intervention and it is within the gift of the British state, about

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which he speaks, to deal with Mr Trump in the same manner as we have

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dealt with other people and I accept you have referred to Mr Trump's

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buffoonery but I have to say that his remarks are condemning an entire

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religion of faith, which I practice. We have heard a lot of talk about

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buffoonery, blunt, direct. If I was a Muslim. I'm not, I'm an atheist. I

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would find repulsive, the thought that I should be its coded from the

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United States of America for no other reason that I was a Muslim.

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The renewal of Trident - unsurprisingly - dominated questions

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Since the last question time for that department,

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Labour's front bench has been reshuffled -

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with Maria Eagle replaced by Emily Thornberry,

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Maria Eagle's departure prompted another Labour minister,

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Kevan Jones - to quit - and he was one of a number of Labour

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MPs who used the occasion to signal their support for Trident.

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I hope you will allow me, Mr Speaker, to formally welcome

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the new Shadow Secretary of State and her team,

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and to regret the removal of their mainstream moderate

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predecessors, the hon Members for Garston and Halewood

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I thank the Secretary of State and the hon Member for Argyll

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The Secretary of State has the honour of having perhaps

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Hopefully we will change roles fairly soon.

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He can be assured that difficult questions will be asked

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and that we hope to work with the Government where we can

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for the sake of the security of people in Britain.

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Senior military personnel have repeatedly warned that the RAF has

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been at full stretch, and that was even before the air

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A squadron of F-35s has only just been ordered,

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but will not come into service for several years.

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In the meantime, the air campaign against Daesh will be dependent

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Can the Secretary of State tell us how long he believes the air

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I thank the hon Lady for her initial remarks.

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I note her ambition to move from the Opposition side

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of the House to the Government side, which was presumably shared

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by the two previous shadow Defence Secretaries that I have

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Let me just say to her gently that a defence policy of nuclear

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submarines with no nuclear weapons, that regards Daesh as having "strong

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points", and that wants to end the Falkland Islanders' right

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to self-determination, may be Labour's defence policy,

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The former Defence Minister - and until recently Shadow Defence

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Minister - Kevan Jones criticised his own party.

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Does the Minister agree that the issue is about not just

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the number of jobs involved in the Successor programme,

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but the high-skill nature of those jobs?

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Despite ill-informed comments from my own party at the weekend

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with regard to those jobs, does he also agree that we cannot

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simply turn them on and off like a tap when we need them?

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I would like to add my tribute to the hon Gentleman's stalwart

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work, both on the Government Benches when he was a Defence Minister

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and on the Opposition Benches when he was a shadow; it is a sorry

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state of affairs to see him sitting right at the back

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The hon Gentleman is, of course, quite right to point out that this

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is a long-term endeavour: to design and build a nuclear-enabled

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This is a 35-year project from initial conception

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The replacement of the nuclear deterrent is, of course,

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a sovereign decision of the United Kingdom

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However, deciding not to proceed would have

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Will the Minister tell us what he feels the repercussions

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would be for Nato, and for Britain's standing in Nato, should we decide

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Our deterrent is a Nato asset, so the Nato alliance depends in part

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on our ability to make that asset available should the need arise.

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Our Nato allies are taking a very intense interest

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in the deliberations of this House and the hon Lady is right

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In what circumstances does the Minister intend to use

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I think this gets to the heart of the confusion that lies

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at the centre of Scottish Nationalist party policy.

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The deterrent has been in use every single day - and night -

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If the UK were to go down the route of decommissioning its warheads,

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in the so-called Japanese style, and then were to decide it needed

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to recommission them at some future point,

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is it the Government's assessment that it could do so and remain

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compatible with the nonproliferation treaty?

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First, let me make it clear that Japan does not have nuclear-powered

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submarines and does not have nuclear weapons,

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so talk of some Japanese option is entirely farcical.

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Gentleman's question is concerned, we have no

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The Defence Secretary, Michael Fallon.

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You're watching Monday in Parliament.

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Still to come - one Muslim peer says people of her faith

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Isn't the question of celebrating all religions have in common and not

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choosing some as terrorists and The head of the NHS in England has

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claimed that "rip off" fees charged for agency staff are responsible

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for almost the whole of the record deficit expected to be run up

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by Hospital Trusts this year. Simon Stevens was giving evidence

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with senior colleagues to parliament's public spending

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watchdog the Public Accounts Committee following a report

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by the National Audit Office which showed, in the words

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of the committee chairman, that acute hospital trusts

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were at crisis point: the report paints an alarming

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picture, one of the most stark reports but my vice chair is not

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here. This 4% of efficiencies over the last five years and proceeding

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is now unsustainable. The report shows getting by on cash hand-outs

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and the planned to get budgets back on track smacks to us really the bad

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and we are concerned that it could be it was set out in the autumn 2014

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report, I do not think anyone predicted this scale of exploitation

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to be frank. This is what we have experienced from these temporary

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agencies and the impact that that had to the problems individual

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trusts different elements, I will. How much of the 1.8 billion deficit

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since you have raised it do you think is down to the? I have not got

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a precise figure but I do think a significant impact on it is hard to

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say specifically, but the agency spent this year will probably get to

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around ?4 billion. If you're able to stop that, you will no longer have a

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problem, is that your analysis? That will be a big part of the solution

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for next year, there are other things and the to what is needed

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here. I think we have had a collective action problems

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individual agencies to play one part of the health service of against

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another. There is a desire to the same time as supply has been

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constrained. It is a perfect storm in terms you use I previously said

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rip-off. But Mr Stevens' suggested solution,

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for hospitals to band together and collectively exert a downward

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pressure on agency prices, You and to broadly, that is full is

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in some environments, in some countries, that you are unable, but

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it using to a very serious impact on the market that doctors and nurses

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work in. You may well be comfortable with that, that gives them the

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option of going abroad, as though that is the answer you it is legal

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to do what we are planning to do, it is material, it is not the only

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explanation for the deficit but it is a. In agency workforce, they are

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doing their extra time through an agency. It feels to me absolutely

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wrong, it is toxic for the staff they leave behind, it is toxic for

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the staff they work alongside and it is hugely inflationary. However it

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has happened, there has been a huge growth in that regard and I think it

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our job is our job

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It was a distorted market, he said, and had to change.

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Now, the Prime Minister has said he wants to help women learn English

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David Cameron also suggested failing to learn English could affect people

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on spousal visas who wanted to settle in the UK.

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He's announced a ?20m fund to provide English lessons in homes,

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But in the Lords, one peer suggested that Muslims were being branded

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to talk of celebrating differences while at the same time, Muslims in

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particular are being demonised at is it a question of what all religions

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have in common and not using some as terrorists and others I think the

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noble lady has a very good points, we can celebrate differences while

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Lady Williams of Trafford. particularly faith that unite

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Now - the Government's confirmed it will push ahead with plans to scrap

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subsidies for new onshore wind farms in England.

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The Government's original Energy Bill set out provisions

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to get rid of the subsidies from April of this year -

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That was blocked in the House of Lords.

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But as MPs began their consideration of the legislation,

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the Energy Secretary, Amber Rudd, said that measure would be

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there is no ambiguity on this. This is a manifesto commitment. We

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signalled our thinking before the last election and we put before the

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British people in black and white to attend new public subsidies for

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onshore wind. There commitments that are well understood and we will

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stand onshore wind has deployed successfully to date and is

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projected to meet by 2020, without action there is a risk of deploying

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beyond this range, potentially adding more cost to consumer bills

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and squeezing out opportunities for the renewables like offshore wind to

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mature and bring down the course. Could the Secretary of State

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explained if she wants to promote a more expensive form of renewable

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energy or missing the target and Coogee confirm that the estimate of

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the annual savings of what, the lowest range of savings is just the

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honourable gentleman asked me a false question. We have to deliver

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on our that is the subsidies, but we will still be making our target

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which we put in 2012 to do 11 to 13 gigawatts by 2020 and that is

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consistent with our progress. In terms of the amount taking these

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actions, our lowest estimate is about 20 million per year and

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highest is 200 million per year, so these are significant sums and I

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would urge them not to discount them as trivial. There is one area where

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we do agree with government on this and that is that wind farms should

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not be imposed on communities that do not want them. That is why we

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support the proposals to put local authorities in charge of approvals

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for these projects, but the reality is are using this bill to try and

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strong local support and they are taking such powers away from local

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authorities in relation to other areas. Fuel poverty, it exists in

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actual, onshore wind is cheap in the closure is set to save the bill

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to an to an

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But one Conservative MP felt increasingly uncomfortable...

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there is a book which sucked the surprising popularity demonstrated

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that sadomasochism, and submission to pain are far more widespread

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taste than it seems to me that in the political sphere, there is a

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similar belief that it would be popular to inflict pain why green

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And that's all from me for now. policies. 50 shades of green,

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Keith Macdougall's here for the rest of the week -

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