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Hello and welcome to Monday in Parliament.

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Peers drop their opposition to Government cuts to disability

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benefits - but with very heavy hearts...

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I hope and I pray that we do not look back on this day as the moment

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that we pushed some of the most severely disabled people in Britain

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over the edge. The migration crisis -

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the Defence Secretary explains why British ships are being sent

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to the Aegean Sea... I think we need to increase the

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capacity, particularly of the Turkish authorities and coastguard,

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to be able to intercept these boats, before they set off on what is a

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very dangerous crossing. And powerful maiden speeches

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in the House of Lords from a bishop My call to ordination was not

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something I welcomed. But I knew that, as a follower of Jesus Christ,

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this was about saying yes to an ongoing journey of becoming the

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woman I was called to be. At the age of 15, I decided to leave school and

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go to work. I had nothing, except passion, determination and a can-do

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attitude. But first, the latest battle

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between the House of Lords and the Government over benefit

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cuts has come to end, after peers backed

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down reluctantly The Government wants to reduce

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Employment and Support Allowance, paid to sick and disabled people,

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by ?30 a week for new claimants. In the last few weeks,

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the Lords has rejected the change, contained in the Welfare

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Reform Bill, on two occasions. But the Government reinstated

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the cuts in the Commons. When the bill came back

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to the Lords, the Work and Pensions

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Minister, Lord Freud, urged peers to accept

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the will of the Commons... The Commons voted solidly to reject

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these amendments and emotion now asks this house to accept this

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decision. -- the motion. In addition, be Commons Speaker has

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also ruled that these changes affect financial privilege. As noble Lords

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have not tabled amendments to the contrary, I will make the

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presumption that the house is now prepared to accept the changes,

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albeit with great reluctance and will not defy convention. I put it

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to the noble Lords that, as a house, we have performed our duty.

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There was a strong reaction from peers...

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I know others spent a great deal last week of working through to try

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to table another amendment to send this dreadful part of the bill but

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to its place. It was not available. They are entitled to do that. And so

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are we to ask them to think again. As the chamber pointed, because of

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our expertise, we know and understand the impact this bill will

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have. Even if no formal impact assessment was carried out. I

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apologise to the people affected that we couldn't do any more. And I

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listen to the government's arguments, in the debates and

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amendments, I have to say words fail me. Particularly when members were

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asked to separate the issue from the more important principle of Commons

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primacy. I find it really difficult when the niceties and Parliamentary

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protocol trump the lives of disabled people. I hope and I pray that we do

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not look back on this day as the moment we pushed some of the most

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severely disabled people in Britain over the edge. This is a black day

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for disabled people. That the commons have spoken and decisively

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and we must bow to their wishes. But we do so under protest. Do not let

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anyone convince you this is democracy in action. There is more

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to democracy than just being elected. Questions of representative

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loss, accessibility and responsibility or comment about as

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well. From this point with this house, though unelected, is much

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more democratic. Organisations representing the needs of poor and

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dispossessed people find it much easier here then to have it taken on

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board in the House of Commons. It is much more politicised and

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subservience to the whips. Under the whips were certainly working

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overtime last Wednesday night. Going round and handing out bribes like

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there was no tomorrow. I just want to pose one question. Well he

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monitored the numbers of suicides in the year following the introduction

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of this cut? I am certain there will be people who cannot face the debts

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and loss of their homes and will take their lives. And if his

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monitoring shows what I believe this cut will do, we'll hear sure this

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house that he will seriously consider to review this action? The

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noble Lords. I do want to assure them that what they have been

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saying, we are hearing. And those concerns will be right at the

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forefront of our minds, certainly of my mind, as we work with ministerial

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colleagues to try to finalise the White Paper.

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He was referring to a white paper on incapacity benefits.

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He said his department will not be monitoring the number of suicides

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because, he said, in such a difficult and fraught area

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To the Commons now for more debate on how to stem the flow of migrants

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and refugees across the Mediterranean into

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The Prime Minister has announced that the Royal Navy ship

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RFA Mounts Bay will be joining a Nato mission in the Aegean Sea,

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which lies between Turkey and Greece.

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RFA Mounts Bay will be helping to stop people smugglers

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transporting migrants from Turkey to Greece.

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Making an urgent statement, the Defence Secretary Michael Fallon

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said the ship would be supporting the Turkish and Greek coastguards...

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The scale of the migration challenge requires Nato, the European Union

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and other countries to work together to address both its symptoms, the

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constant flow of migrants and the conditions we see, and the causes in

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Syria and beyond. We must also work with local civilian authorities to

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try to tackle the gangs would profit from smuggling migrants. The United

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Kingdom has already been engaged with the Home Office ship deployed

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in the region since November. Contributing to the EU and Nato

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mission is to counter smuggling is only part of the government's wide

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approach to tackling the root causes of irregular migration. The United

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Kingdom is leading the way in tackling these issues at their

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source, providing significant amounts of aid to assist and to

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stabilise troubled regions and lessen the need for people to leave.

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In the meantime, this Royal Navy deployment is an important part of

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the international effort to assist the Turkish and Greek authorities in

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reducing this criminal and dangerous people trafficking.

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Alistair Carmichael was the MP who requested

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What he describes is a series of tactics,

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And many of them will find broad support. But taken together, they do

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not add up to a strategy. It was referred to today in the press as

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being a war against people traffickers. If we are to win, and I

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fear that what we need to do is to cut off the supply to the people

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traffickers of those who desperately using them. That means getting peace

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in their countries of origin, but in the short to medium term, that means

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a series of safe and legal route into Britain and expansion of

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refugee families schemes. The Defence Secretary did not agree

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with his analysis... I am not convinced that establishing

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some routes are safer than others will do anything to reduce the flow.

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I think we need to increase the capacity, particularly of the

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Turkish authorities and Turkish postcard, to be able to intercept

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these bows before they set off on what is a very dangerous crossing.

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-- Turkish coastguard. -- these boats. There is a real urgency in

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bringing to justice the people responsible for people smuggling,

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but also for the people who are undertaking it. It is a reminder,

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this boat being deployed, of how the Royal Navy has been reduced since

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2010. Are they too stretched to play a role in this operation? Is he

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satisfied Turkey is doing enough to help itself? There are thousands of

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plastic dinghy is being imported by them to allow this trade to

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continue. There are phoney life jackets being sold. Why is in the

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Turkish government doing something about this? Helping people stop

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risking their lives is the right thing to do, undoubtedly. But for

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those who have already arrived, there are 13,000 of them now at the

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Macedonian border in terrible conditions, children with

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bronchitis. He has said that the British government will not do

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anything to take any of them. Where does he think those 13,000 people

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should go? The British government is taking refugees from Syria. We have

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already made that clear. Some of them have arrived here. My friend,

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the Prime Minister, is urging his European counterparts to get to

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grips with the problem. -- my honourable friend. For those

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arriving within that area and to make sure they are not being

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shuttled from one place to the next. MPs raised concern about migrants

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working in UK, who may be deported The issue was debated in Parliament,

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after a petition reached The Government stipulates that

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non-EU migrants who've been in the UK for five years

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in graduate-level jobs need to earn over ?35,000 a year

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in order to stay... One doctor is a particular

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professional and he is being forced out of the country. He was not

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costing the taxpayer a penny. He had access to private income from

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considerable work and experience. He was a musician for David Berry

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amongst many other contributions. -- Steve, Doctor Foreman.. And yet the

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Home Office is trying to deport him. That is what is costing the tax

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payer money. -- David Bowie. It is being spent on further legal

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processes. If this goes through, then I am fairly confident we will

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have do see that if the people pioneering clean water in Edinburgh,

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she will not be welcome to stay in this country and to develop it

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unless she is earning more than ?35,000 per year. Something, which

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for a first-time job, is pretty impossible. There are exemptions for

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Ph.D. Level occupations. Yes. After Ph.D. Level occupations. They would

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be exempt. But there were further

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concerns over the policy... I think this policy seems to be

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about portraying an image. Even its opponents have said it will have

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little effect on immigration to the UK. It will cost the government

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millions of pounds a year. The five key workers and make people making a

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contribution leave the country. And if that is not a good example of

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unintended consequences, that it is made to create headlines, rather

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than addressing immigration, I cannot think of anything better.

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Would it not be better to drop this policy and grin fades some of the

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money that will be saved to help boost skills and training for local

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workers? The government consulted in 2011. The government doesn't believe

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there should be an automatic link between coming to the UK to work

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temporarily and staying permanently. That is something very common in

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most countries. There is a difference between temporary and

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permanent settlement. The minimum earning threshold was set following

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advice from the migration advisory committee. The main purpose was to

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support the UK economy, not to provide migrants with a route to

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settlement. ?35,000 per year wasn't a figure invented by politicians

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from nowhere. It was worked out professionally by the committee to

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be the equivalent of a medium UK paid skills job. That was at the

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time of the consultation in 2011. I think our members should be aware

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that the most recent research is that the figures today will be

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?39,000. You're watching Monday in Parliament

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with me Kristiina Cooper. Labour has criticised Government

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plans to allow Police and Crime Commissioners to take

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responsibility for fire The attack came as MPs

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held their first debate on the wide-ranging

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Police and Crime Bill - which mainly applies

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to England and Wales. The Home Secretary told the Commons

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the change to fire services would save money and

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improve effectiveness. Where a local case

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is made, the Bill will enable a PCC by integrating the senior management

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teams of the police force and the fire and rescue service

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under a single chief officer. This single employer model

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will allow the rapid consolidation of back-office functions

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without the complexities of negotiating collaboration

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agreements between the PCC, the chief constable and one or more

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fire and rescue authorities. I should stress that under these

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reforms police officers and firefighters will remain

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distinct and separate, as set out in law, albeit supported

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by increasingly integrated HR, ICT, finance, procurement,

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fleet management What on earth happened

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to the Government's Just as with metro mayors,

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it looks like these expanded PCCs The Government have not made

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the case for changing the fire service in this way,

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and nor have they shown how the independence and funding

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of the fire service will be The fire service, as the junior

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partner in the arrangement, I know that the concerns I have

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outlined are held by not only Labour councillors,

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but Conservative councillors, as the nods that I see opposite

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from Government Members The Bill also sets out to ban

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the use of police cells as places of safety for children

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and young people experiencing Those experiencing a mental health

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crisis and who present a danger to themselves or to others need

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rapid support and care They do not need locking up

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in a police cell for up to 72 hours. The Home Secretary is absolutely

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right when she said a police cell Being ill and black

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is not a criminal We know that if you are of

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African Caribbean descent, suffering a mental health

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crisis you are more You're more likely to be detained

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and subjected to a community We have never believed

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that the right place should be I want to also acknowledge the work

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that is done by my honourable member for Durham North who has

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also campaigned on these He was one of those

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who has always said only in exceptional cases should

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people with illnesses of this kind That applies to children

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but in particular also to adults. The Bill will also change the police

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complaints procedure and the disciplinary action that can

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be taken against police officers. My Honourable friend,

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the Shadow Home Secretary has mentioned the prospect of being able

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to reduce the pension entitlement for a retired officers

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in certain circumstances. I hope that is something

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that the Minster will Madam Deputy Speaker,

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one of the very sad but important duties I have

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is to remove the pension from an officer because they

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have committed certain It is already here and there

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are other sanctions including criminal sanctions that

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can be taken as well. The pension removal

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is in statute now. Now, the actor Richard Gere

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was in Parliament last week. It was one stop

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on his tour of the UK to promote his new film

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about homelessness. Richard Gere hopes that Time Out

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of Mind will change attitude At Lords question time,

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one peer wondered if Richard Gere had persuaded the Chancellor George

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Osborne to support the cause. The question came during exchanges

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on how to tackle rough sleeping. My lord, in the recent written

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answer to me the minister said these survey of England found

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that there were 2744 people sleeping At the same time the number

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of number of beds was 36,540. Can we conclude from these figures

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that the problem is not the availability of

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beds as the apparent unwillingness of those sleeping

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rough to take them up? In which case, what are

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the Government going to do about it? There are a number of reasons why

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people sleep rough and the Lord has alluded to one of them

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but he is absolutely right in suggesting that we need to tackle

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both the rough sleepers and make sure they do not spend

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a second night out. Homeless is now in England

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is a loss of private tenancy. We desperately need an increase

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in social housing alongside If Richard Gere has managed

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to persuade the Chancellor to make this his next big cause,

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according to the papers at the weekend, does

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the minister now regret the lack of policies

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to increase social housing? My Lords, I think it

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is important that we provide housing of all types

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of tenure, as the noble lady pointed out houses for social rent,

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affordable homes, starter homes and shared ownership

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and Help To Buy schemes, Rent To Build, all the different

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schemes that are in place The first female bishop to be

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introduced into the upper house has The Right Reverend Rachel Treweek

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made her first contribution in a debate on women's

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representation and empowerment - telling peers that she started her

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professional life as a speech My work with children

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and families as a speech and language therapist fuelled my

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interest in communication, Together, these are powerful keys

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to understanding and interpreting what it means to be

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human and made in the My call to ordination was not

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something I welcomed but I knew that as a follower of Jesus Christ this

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was about saying yes to an ongoing journey of becoming the women

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I was called to be. In the early 90s women

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could not be priests in the Church of England

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and when I went to theological College in Oxford I never

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imagined that one day She revealed that she was interested

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in conflict resolution. In a world of diversity,

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conflict will always be part of everyday life

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and we need to learn to learn What we see across our world is that

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people are threatened by the other. Over the years I added my voice

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to the debate to enable the consecration of women

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and my starting point was always the firm conviction

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that all people are created equal in the image of God

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and called to use the gifts for the glory of God

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and the flourishing of all people. Also making her maiden speech

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was the entrepreneur Lady Mone. She's conducting a review

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for the Prime Minister on how to increase the number

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of business start-ups. In a personal contribution

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she told peers how, having grown up in a Glasgow

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tenement, it was an honour My Lords, I am dyslexic,

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and this speech is harder than any business I have ever started

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and I started my first I had a paper round and,

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by the time I was 11, Then at the age of 12,

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I got a job in the local fruit and veg shop, but I was soon

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headhunted by the sweetie shop across the road,

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which paid me 15p an hour more. So I can tell your Lordships that

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I was off like a shot. My parents did not

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have an easy life. My brother died when he was a baby

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and my dad was confined So at the age of 15

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I decided to leave I had nothing except passion,

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determination and a can-do attitude. She started her own

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business when she was 24. I was lucky that my mum and dad

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taught me that dreams can come true if you work hard, are honest

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and never, ever give up. And she finished by quoting from one

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of her favourite songs. I love music and I would

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like to share with you the words of a song by the late,

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great Whitney Houston, which inspired me

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when I was growing up. I normally sing this at karaoke,

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but on the advice of our wonderful doorkeepers, I thought

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I would spare your Lordships ears. "I believe the children

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are our future. "Teach them well and let

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them lead the way." Fellow peers congratulated Lady Mone

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on a powerful maiden speech. Although, a Conservative Lord Fowler

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said it was a great pity Well, that's it from

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Monday in Parliament. Keith Macdougall will be

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here for the rest of the week but from me, Kristiina

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Cooper, goodbye.

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