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Hello and welcome to Monday in Parliament. | :00:11. | :00:13. | |
Peers drop their opposition to Government cuts to disability | :00:14. | :00:20. | |
benefits - but with very heavy hearts... | :00:21. | :00:26. | |
I hope and I pray that we do not look back on this day as the moment | :00:27. | :00:35. | |
that we pushed some of the most severely disabled people in Britain | :00:36. | :00:36. | |
over the edge. The migration crisis - | :00:37. | :00:37. | |
the Defence Secretary explains why British ships are being sent | :00:38. | :00:39. | |
to the Aegean Sea... I think we need to increase the | :00:40. | :00:49. | |
capacity, particularly of the Turkish authorities and coastguard, | :00:50. | :00:53. | |
to be able to intercept these boats, before they set off on what is a | :00:54. | :00:55. | |
very dangerous crossing. And powerful maiden speeches | :00:56. | :00:56. | |
in the House of Lords from a bishop My call to ordination was not | :00:57. | :01:08. | |
something I welcomed. But I knew that, as a follower of Jesus Christ, | :01:09. | :01:13. | |
this was about saying yes to an ongoing journey of becoming the | :01:14. | :01:19. | |
woman I was called to be. At the age of 15, I decided to leave school and | :01:20. | :01:25. | |
go to work. I had nothing, except passion, determination and a can-do | :01:26. | :01:27. | |
attitude. But first, the latest battle | :01:28. | :01:28. | |
between the House of Lords and the Government over benefit | :01:29. | :01:30. | |
cuts has come to end, after peers backed | :01:31. | :01:33. | |
down reluctantly The Government wants to reduce | :01:34. | :01:34. | |
Employment and Support Allowance, paid to sick and disabled people, | :01:35. | :01:38. | |
by ?30 a week for new claimants. In the last few weeks, | :01:39. | :01:43. | |
the Lords has rejected the change, contained in the Welfare | :01:44. | :01:46. | |
Reform Bill, on two occasions. But the Government reinstated | :01:47. | :01:52. | |
the cuts in the Commons. When the bill came back | :01:53. | :01:54. | |
to the Lords, the Work and Pensions | :01:55. | :01:56. | |
Minister, Lord Freud, urged peers to accept | :01:57. | :01:58. | |
the will of the Commons... The Commons voted solidly to reject | :01:59. | :02:11. | |
these amendments and emotion now asks this house to accept this | :02:12. | :02:19. | |
decision. -- the motion. In addition, be Commons Speaker has | :02:20. | :02:22. | |
also ruled that these changes affect financial privilege. As noble Lords | :02:23. | :02:29. | |
have not tabled amendments to the contrary, I will make the | :02:30. | :02:35. | |
presumption that the house is now prepared to accept the changes, | :02:36. | :02:38. | |
albeit with great reluctance and will not defy convention. I put it | :02:39. | :02:46. | |
to the noble Lords that, as a house, we have performed our duty. | :02:47. | :02:48. | |
There was a strong reaction from peers... | :02:49. | :02:53. | |
I know others spent a great deal last week of working through to try | :02:54. | :03:01. | |
to table another amendment to send this dreadful part of the bill but | :03:02. | :03:14. | |
to its place. It was not available. They are entitled to do that. And so | :03:15. | :03:20. | |
are we to ask them to think again. As the chamber pointed, because of | :03:21. | :03:24. | |
our expertise, we know and understand the impact this bill will | :03:25. | :03:29. | |
have. Even if no formal impact assessment was carried out. I | :03:30. | :03:33. | |
apologise to the people affected that we couldn't do any more. And I | :03:34. | :03:40. | |
listen to the government's arguments, in the debates and | :03:41. | :03:47. | |
amendments, I have to say words fail me. Particularly when members were | :03:48. | :03:57. | |
asked to separate the issue from the more important principle of Commons | :03:58. | :04:01. | |
primacy. I find it really difficult when the niceties and Parliamentary | :04:02. | :04:07. | |
protocol trump the lives of disabled people. I hope and I pray that we do | :04:08. | :04:13. | |
not look back on this day as the moment we pushed some of the most | :04:14. | :04:18. | |
severely disabled people in Britain over the edge. This is a black day | :04:19. | :04:27. | |
for disabled people. That the commons have spoken and decisively | :04:28. | :04:30. | |
and we must bow to their wishes. But we do so under protest. Do not let | :04:31. | :04:35. | |
anyone convince you this is democracy in action. There is more | :04:36. | :04:39. | |
to democracy than just being elected. Questions of representative | :04:40. | :04:48. | |
loss, accessibility and responsibility or comment about as | :04:49. | :04:52. | |
well. From this point with this house, though unelected, is much | :04:53. | :04:58. | |
more democratic. Organisations representing the needs of poor and | :04:59. | :05:02. | |
dispossessed people find it much easier here then to have it taken on | :05:03. | :05:07. | |
board in the House of Commons. It is much more politicised and | :05:08. | :05:11. | |
subservience to the whips. Under the whips were certainly working | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
overtime last Wednesday night. Going round and handing out bribes like | :05:16. | :05:22. | |
there was no tomorrow. I just want to pose one question. Well he | :05:23. | :05:28. | |
monitored the numbers of suicides in the year following the introduction | :05:29. | :05:33. | |
of this cut? I am certain there will be people who cannot face the debts | :05:34. | :05:37. | |
and loss of their homes and will take their lives. And if his | :05:38. | :05:43. | |
monitoring shows what I believe this cut will do, we'll hear sure this | :05:44. | :05:48. | |
house that he will seriously consider to review this action? The | :05:49. | :06:03. | |
noble Lords. I do want to assure them that what they have been | :06:04. | :06:10. | |
saying, we are hearing. And those concerns will be right at the | :06:11. | :06:16. | |
forefront of our minds, certainly of my mind, as we work with ministerial | :06:17. | :06:22. | |
colleagues to try to finalise the White Paper. | :06:23. | :06:25. | |
He was referring to a white paper on incapacity benefits. | :06:26. | :06:27. | |
He said his department will not be monitoring the number of suicides | :06:28. | :06:30. | |
because, he said, in such a difficult and fraught area | :06:31. | :06:33. | |
To the Commons now for more debate on how to stem the flow of migrants | :06:34. | :06:42. | |
and refugees across the Mediterranean into | :06:43. | :06:44. | |
The Prime Minister has announced that the Royal Navy ship | :06:45. | :06:47. | |
RFA Mounts Bay will be joining a Nato mission in the Aegean Sea, | :06:48. | :06:50. | |
which lies between Turkey and Greece. | :06:51. | :06:54. | |
RFA Mounts Bay will be helping to stop people smugglers | :06:55. | :06:56. | |
transporting migrants from Turkey to Greece. | :06:57. | :06:57. | |
Making an urgent statement, the Defence Secretary Michael Fallon | :06:58. | :07:00. | |
said the ship would be supporting the Turkish and Greek coastguards... | :07:01. | :07:10. | |
The scale of the migration challenge requires Nato, the European Union | :07:11. | :07:19. | |
and other countries to work together to address both its symptoms, the | :07:20. | :07:24. | |
constant flow of migrants and the conditions we see, and the causes in | :07:25. | :07:29. | |
Syria and beyond. We must also work with local civilian authorities to | :07:30. | :07:33. | |
try to tackle the gangs would profit from smuggling migrants. The United | :07:34. | :07:40. | |
Kingdom has already been engaged with the Home Office ship deployed | :07:41. | :07:46. | |
in the region since November. Contributing to the EU and Nato | :07:47. | :07:50. | |
mission is to counter smuggling is only part of the government's wide | :07:51. | :07:55. | |
approach to tackling the root causes of irregular migration. The United | :07:56. | :07:59. | |
Kingdom is leading the way in tackling these issues at their | :08:00. | :08:04. | |
source, providing significant amounts of aid to assist and to | :08:05. | :08:08. | |
stabilise troubled regions and lessen the need for people to leave. | :08:09. | :08:13. | |
In the meantime, this Royal Navy deployment is an important part of | :08:14. | :08:17. | |
the international effort to assist the Turkish and Greek authorities in | :08:18. | :08:22. | |
reducing this criminal and dangerous people trafficking. | :08:23. | :08:25. | |
Alistair Carmichael was the MP who requested | :08:26. | :08:27. | |
What he describes is a series of tactics, | :08:28. | :08:35. | |
And many of them will find broad support. But taken together, they do | :08:36. | :08:42. | |
not add up to a strategy. It was referred to today in the press as | :08:43. | :08:45. | |
being a war against people traffickers. If we are to win, and I | :08:46. | :08:51. | |
fear that what we need to do is to cut off the supply to the people | :08:52. | :08:57. | |
traffickers of those who desperately using them. That means getting peace | :08:58. | :09:04. | |
in their countries of origin, but in the short to medium term, that means | :09:05. | :09:12. | |
a series of safe and legal route into Britain and expansion of | :09:13. | :09:14. | |
refugee families schemes. The Defence Secretary did not agree | :09:15. | :09:15. | |
with his analysis... I am not convinced that establishing | :09:16. | :09:24. | |
some routes are safer than others will do anything to reduce the flow. | :09:25. | :09:30. | |
I think we need to increase the capacity, particularly of the | :09:31. | :09:34. | |
Turkish authorities and Turkish postcard, to be able to intercept | :09:35. | :09:39. | |
these bows before they set off on what is a very dangerous crossing. | :09:40. | :09:44. | |
-- Turkish coastguard. -- these boats. There is a real urgency in | :09:45. | :09:53. | |
bringing to justice the people responsible for people smuggling, | :09:54. | :09:58. | |
but also for the people who are undertaking it. It is a reminder, | :09:59. | :10:05. | |
this boat being deployed, of how the Royal Navy has been reduced since | :10:06. | :10:11. | |
2010. Are they too stretched to play a role in this operation? Is he | :10:12. | :10:20. | |
satisfied Turkey is doing enough to help itself? There are thousands of | :10:21. | :10:24. | |
plastic dinghy is being imported by them to allow this trade to | :10:25. | :10:29. | |
continue. There are phoney life jackets being sold. Why is in the | :10:30. | :10:32. | |
Turkish government doing something about this? Helping people stop | :10:33. | :10:40. | |
risking their lives is the right thing to do, undoubtedly. But for | :10:41. | :10:45. | |
those who have already arrived, there are 13,000 of them now at the | :10:46. | :10:51. | |
Macedonian border in terrible conditions, children with | :10:52. | :10:53. | |
bronchitis. He has said that the British government will not do | :10:54. | :10:57. | |
anything to take any of them. Where does he think those 13,000 people | :10:58. | :11:05. | |
should go? The British government is taking refugees from Syria. We have | :11:06. | :11:10. | |
already made that clear. Some of them have arrived here. My friend, | :11:11. | :11:16. | |
the Prime Minister, is urging his European counterparts to get to | :11:17. | :11:19. | |
grips with the problem. -- my honourable friend. For those | :11:20. | :11:26. | |
arriving within that area and to make sure they are not being | :11:27. | :11:28. | |
shuttled from one place to the next. MPs raised concern about migrants | :11:29. | :11:30. | |
working in UK, who may be deported The issue was debated in Parliament, | :11:31. | :11:36. | |
after a petition reached The Government stipulates that | :11:37. | :11:40. | |
non-EU migrants who've been in the UK for five years | :11:41. | :11:43. | |
in graduate-level jobs need to earn over ?35,000 a year | :11:44. | :11:46. | |
in order to stay... One doctor is a particular | :11:47. | :12:09. | |
professional and he is being forced out of the country. He was not | :12:10. | :12:17. | |
costing the taxpayer a penny. He had access to private income from | :12:18. | :12:21. | |
considerable work and experience. He was a musician for David Berry | :12:22. | :12:25. | |
amongst many other contributions. -- Steve, Doctor Foreman.. And yet the | :12:26. | :12:32. | |
Home Office is trying to deport him. That is what is costing the tax | :12:33. | :12:39. | |
payer money. -- David Bowie. It is being spent on further legal | :12:40. | :12:44. | |
processes. If this goes through, then I am fairly confident we will | :12:45. | :12:53. | |
have do see that if the people pioneering clean water in Edinburgh, | :12:54. | :12:59. | |
she will not be welcome to stay in this country and to develop it | :13:00. | :13:02. | |
unless she is earning more than ?35,000 per year. Something, which | :13:03. | :13:09. | |
for a first-time job, is pretty impossible. There are exemptions for | :13:10. | :13:16. | |
Ph.D. Level occupations. Yes. After Ph.D. Level occupations. They would | :13:17. | :13:18. | |
be exempt. But there were further | :13:19. | :13:19. | |
concerns over the policy... I think this policy seems to be | :13:20. | :13:28. | |
about portraying an image. Even its opponents have said it will have | :13:29. | :13:37. | |
little effect on immigration to the UK. It will cost the government | :13:38. | :13:43. | |
millions of pounds a year. The five key workers and make people making a | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
contribution leave the country. And if that is not a good example of | :13:49. | :13:57. | |
unintended consequences, that it is made to create headlines, rather | :13:58. | :14:00. | |
than addressing immigration, I cannot think of anything better. | :14:01. | :14:06. | |
Would it not be better to drop this policy and grin fades some of the | :14:07. | :14:09. | |
money that will be saved to help boost skills and training for local | :14:10. | :14:17. | |
workers? The government consulted in 2011. The government doesn't believe | :14:18. | :14:20. | |
there should be an automatic link between coming to the UK to work | :14:21. | :14:25. | |
temporarily and staying permanently. That is something very common in | :14:26. | :14:29. | |
most countries. There is a difference between temporary and | :14:30. | :14:34. | |
permanent settlement. The minimum earning threshold was set following | :14:35. | :14:38. | |
advice from the migration advisory committee. The main purpose was to | :14:39. | :14:44. | |
support the UK economy, not to provide migrants with a route to | :14:45. | :14:50. | |
settlement. ?35,000 per year wasn't a figure invented by politicians | :14:51. | :14:55. | |
from nowhere. It was worked out professionally by the committee to | :14:56. | :15:01. | |
be the equivalent of a medium UK paid skills job. That was at the | :15:02. | :15:09. | |
time of the consultation in 2011. I think our members should be aware | :15:10. | :15:12. | |
that the most recent research is that the figures today will be | :15:13. | :15:13. | |
?39,000. You're watching Monday in Parliament | :15:14. | :15:16. | |
with me Kristiina Cooper. Labour has criticised Government | :15:17. | :15:20. | |
plans to allow Police and Crime Commissioners to take | :15:21. | :15:22. | |
responsibility for fire The attack came as MPs | :15:23. | :15:25. | |
held their first debate on the wide-ranging | :15:26. | :15:30. | |
Police and Crime Bill - which mainly applies | :15:31. | :15:32. | |
to England and Wales. The Home Secretary told the Commons | :15:33. | :15:36. | |
the change to fire services would save money and | :15:37. | :15:39. | |
improve effectiveness. Where a local case | :15:40. | :15:42. | |
is made, the Bill will enable a PCC by integrating the senior management | :15:43. | :15:45. | |
teams of the police force and the fire and rescue service | :15:46. | :15:49. | |
under a single chief officer. This single employer model | :15:50. | :15:52. | |
will allow the rapid consolidation of back-office functions | :15:53. | :15:54. | |
without the complexities of negotiating collaboration | :15:55. | :15:57. | |
agreements between the PCC, the chief constable and one or more | :15:58. | :15:59. | |
fire and rescue authorities. I should stress that under these | :16:00. | :16:03. | |
reforms police officers and firefighters will remain | :16:04. | :16:05. | |
distinct and separate, as set out in law, albeit supported | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
by increasingly integrated HR, ICT, finance, procurement, | :16:10. | :16:14. | |
fleet management What on earth happened | :16:15. | :16:17. | |
to the Government's Just as with metro mayors, | :16:18. | :16:22. | |
it looks like these expanded PCCs The Government have not made | :16:23. | :16:31. | |
the case for changing the fire service in this way, | :16:32. | :16:36. | |
and nor have they shown how the independence and funding | :16:37. | :16:39. | |
of the fire service will be The fire service, as the junior | :16:40. | :16:41. | |
partner in the arrangement, I know that the concerns I have | :16:42. | :16:46. | |
outlined are held by not only Labour councillors, | :16:47. | :16:53. | |
but Conservative councillors, as the nods that I see opposite | :16:54. | :16:56. | |
from Government Members The Bill also sets out to ban | :16:57. | :16:59. | |
the use of police cells as places of safety for children | :17:00. | :17:06. | |
and young people experiencing Those experiencing a mental health | :17:07. | :17:08. | |
crisis and who present a danger to themselves or to others need | :17:09. | :17:13. | |
rapid support and care They do not need locking up | :17:14. | :17:16. | |
in a police cell for up to 72 hours. The Home Secretary is absolutely | :17:17. | :17:23. | |
right when she said a police cell Being ill and black | :17:24. | :17:26. | |
is not a criminal We know that if you are of | :17:27. | :17:35. | |
African Caribbean descent, suffering a mental health | :17:36. | :17:42. | |
crisis you are more You're more likely to be detained | :17:43. | :17:45. | |
and subjected to a community We have never believed | :17:46. | :17:51. | |
that the right place should be I want to also acknowledge the work | :17:52. | :18:00. | |
that is done by my honourable member for Durham North who has | :18:01. | :18:07. | |
also campaigned on these He was one of those | :18:08. | :18:09. | |
who has always said only in exceptional cases should | :18:10. | :18:16. | |
people with illnesses of this kind That applies to children | :18:17. | :18:19. | |
but in particular also to adults. The Bill will also change the police | :18:20. | :18:28. | |
complaints procedure and the disciplinary action that can | :18:29. | :18:30. | |
be taken against police officers. My Honourable friend, | :18:31. | :18:34. | |
the Shadow Home Secretary has mentioned the prospect of being able | :18:35. | :18:37. | |
to reduce the pension entitlement for a retired officers | :18:38. | :18:40. | |
in certain circumstances. I hope that is something | :18:41. | :18:44. | |
that the Minster will Madam Deputy Speaker, | :18:45. | :18:47. | |
one of the very sad but important duties I have | :18:48. | :18:54. | |
is to remove the pension from an officer because they | :18:55. | :19:00. | |
have committed certain It is already here and there | :19:01. | :19:02. | |
are other sanctions including criminal sanctions that | :19:03. | :19:10. | |
can be taken as well. The pension removal | :19:11. | :19:12. | |
is in statute now. Now, the actor Richard Gere | :19:13. | :19:17. | |
was in Parliament last week. It was one stop | :19:18. | :19:19. | |
on his tour of the UK to promote his new film | :19:20. | :19:22. | |
about homelessness. Richard Gere hopes that Time Out | :19:23. | :19:25. | |
of Mind will change attitude At Lords question time, | :19:26. | :19:27. | |
one peer wondered if Richard Gere had persuaded the Chancellor George | :19:28. | :19:33. | |
Osborne to support the cause. The question came during exchanges | :19:34. | :19:35. | |
on how to tackle rough sleeping. My lord, in the recent written | :19:36. | :19:45. | |
answer to me the minister said these survey of England found | :19:46. | :19:49. | |
that there were 2744 people sleeping At the same time the number | :19:50. | :19:53. | |
of number of beds was 36,540. Can we conclude from these figures | :19:54. | :20:02. | |
that the problem is not the availability of | :20:03. | :20:05. | |
beds as the apparent unwillingness of those sleeping | :20:06. | :20:08. | |
rough to take them up? In which case, what are | :20:09. | :20:12. | |
the Government going to do about it? There are a number of reasons why | :20:13. | :20:19. | |
people sleep rough and the Lord has alluded to one of them | :20:20. | :20:26. | |
but he is absolutely right in suggesting that we need to tackle | :20:27. | :20:30. | |
both the rough sleepers and make sure they do not spend | :20:31. | :20:33. | |
a second night out. Homeless is now in England | :20:34. | :20:41. | |
is a loss of private tenancy. We desperately need an increase | :20:42. | :20:44. | |
in social housing alongside If Richard Gere has managed | :20:45. | :20:46. | |
to persuade the Chancellor to make this his next big cause, | :20:47. | :20:51. | |
according to the papers at the weekend, does | :20:52. | :20:55. | |
the minister now regret the lack of policies | :20:56. | :20:57. | |
to increase social housing? My Lords, I think it | :20:58. | :21:04. | |
is important that we provide housing of all types | :21:05. | :21:07. | |
of tenure, as the noble lady pointed out houses for social rent, | :21:08. | :21:10. | |
affordable homes, starter homes and shared ownership | :21:11. | :21:16. | |
and Help To Buy schemes, Rent To Build, all the different | :21:17. | :21:19. | |
schemes that are in place The first female bishop to be | :21:20. | :21:27. | |
introduced into the upper house has The Right Reverend Rachel Treweek | :21:28. | :21:34. | |
made her first contribution in a debate on women's | :21:35. | :21:37. | |
representation and empowerment - telling peers that she started her | :21:38. | :21:39. | |
professional life as a speech My work with children | :21:40. | :21:43. | |
and families as a speech and language therapist fuelled my | :21:44. | :21:51. | |
interest in communication, Together, these are powerful keys | :21:52. | :21:52. | |
to understanding and interpreting what it means to be | :21:53. | :22:02. | |
human and made in the My call to ordination was not | :22:03. | :22:04. | |
something I welcomed but I knew that as a follower of Jesus Christ this | :22:05. | :22:13. | |
was about saying yes to an ongoing journey of becoming the women | :22:14. | :22:16. | |
I was called to be. In the early 90s women | :22:17. | :22:21. | |
could not be priests in the Church of England | :22:22. | :22:24. | |
and when I went to theological College in Oxford I never | :22:25. | :22:27. | |
imagined that one day She revealed that she was interested | :22:28. | :22:31. | |
in conflict resolution. In a world of diversity, | :22:32. | :22:37. | |
conflict will always be part of everyday life | :22:38. | :22:43. | |
and we need to learn to learn What we see across our world is that | :22:44. | :22:46. | |
people are threatened by the other. Over the years I added my voice | :22:47. | :23:02. | |
to the debate to enable the consecration of women | :23:03. | :23:06. | |
and my starting point was always the firm conviction | :23:07. | :23:09. | |
that all people are created equal in the image of God | :23:10. | :23:10. | |
and called to use the gifts for the glory of God | :23:11. | :23:13. | |
and the flourishing of all people. Also making her maiden speech | :23:14. | :23:16. | |
was the entrepreneur Lady Mone. She's conducting a review | :23:17. | :23:19. | |
for the Prime Minister on how to increase the number | :23:20. | :23:23. | |
of business start-ups. In a personal contribution | :23:24. | :23:26. | |
she told peers how, having grown up in a Glasgow | :23:27. | :23:30. | |
tenement, it was an honour My Lords, I am dyslexic, | :23:31. | :23:32. | |
and this speech is harder than any business I have ever started | :23:33. | :23:41. | |
and I started my first I had a paper round and, | :23:42. | :23:44. | |
by the time I was 11, Then at the age of 12, | :23:45. | :23:52. | |
I got a job in the local fruit and veg shop, but I was soon | :23:53. | :24:00. | |
headhunted by the sweetie shop across the road, | :24:01. | :24:03. | |
which paid me 15p an hour more. So I can tell your Lordships that | :24:04. | :24:09. | |
I was off like a shot. My parents did not | :24:10. | :24:12. | |
have an easy life. My brother died when he was a baby | :24:13. | :24:15. | |
and my dad was confined So at the age of 15 | :24:16. | :24:19. | |
I decided to leave I had nothing except passion, | :24:20. | :24:25. | |
determination and a can-do attitude. She started her own | :24:26. | :24:35. | |
business when she was 24. I was lucky that my mum and dad | :24:36. | :24:39. | |
taught me that dreams can come true if you work hard, are honest | :24:40. | :24:45. | |
and never, ever give up. And she finished by quoting from one | :24:46. | :24:48. | |
of her favourite songs. I love music and I would | :24:49. | :24:52. | |
like to share with you the words of a song by the late, | :24:53. | :24:56. | |
great Whitney Houston, which inspired me | :24:57. | :24:59. | |
when I was growing up. I normally sing this at karaoke, | :25:00. | :25:03. | |
but on the advice of our wonderful doorkeepers, I thought | :25:04. | :25:10. | |
I would spare your Lordships ears. "I believe the children | :25:11. | :25:16. | |
are our future. "Teach them well and let | :25:17. | :25:21. | |
them lead the way." Fellow peers congratulated Lady Mone | :25:22. | :25:26. | |
on a powerful maiden speech. Although, a Conservative Lord Fowler | :25:27. | :25:30. | |
said it was a great pity Well, that's it from | :25:31. | :25:32. | |
Monday in Parliament. Keith Macdougall will be | :25:33. | :25:37. | |
here for the rest of the week but from me, Kristiina | :25:38. | :25:40. | |
Cooper, goodbye. | :25:41. | :25:45. |