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Ministers are called to do more to protect children

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The lack of sanitation, the violence,

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the threat of sexual assault - nobody should be in those conditions

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for a minute longer than necessary, and in particular children.

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And the Speaker grants an urgent debate on the crisis in Syrha.

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The Government's denied Parliament is being sidelindd

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as the plans to leave the European Union get underway

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Labour says that while the decision to leave the EU should be rdspected,

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the detail of what that looks like should be decided by MPs.

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On the first day back after a break for party conferences,

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the Brexit Secretary David Davis said the will of the people

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The mandate for Britain to leave the European Union is clear,

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As the Prime Minister has s`id more than once, we will make a stccess

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No one should seek to find ways to thwart the will of the pdople,

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expressed in a referendum on the 23rd of June.

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We will start by bringing forward a great repeal bill which whll mean

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the European communities act is ceasing to apply on the day

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It was this act that put EU law above UK law, so it is right that,

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given the clear instruction for exit given to us by the people

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in the referendum, that we and the authority

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We will return sovereignty to the institutions

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That is what people voted for on June 23, for Britain to take

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control of its own destiny and for all decisions

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about taxpayers' money, borders and laws to be taken

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The former director of publhc prosecutions, Sir Keir Starler,

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made his first appearance as shadow Brexit Secretary.

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During the referendum campahgn, which was made on the Leave side

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In his statement, the secretary of state says, we will return

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sovereignty to the instituthons of this United Kingdom.

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Yet it seems that the Government wants to draw up negotiating terms,

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negotiate and reach a deal, without any parliamentary approval.

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We do accept and expect the result of the referendul.

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But neither those who voted to remain, nor those who voted

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to leave, gave the Government a mandate to take an axe

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Throughout the process, the national interest

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Yet by flirting with hard Brexit, the Prime Minister puts at risk

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Britain's access to the single market, rather than doing

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the right thing for jobs, for business and for working people

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We want the most open, barrier free access

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The honourable lady is shouting "What about our economy?"

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We want the most open, barrher-free access to the European markdt.

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We have heard lots and lots of very unhelpful,

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misleading comments, frankly, on a hard

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What we want are the best possible access terms, full stop.

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I urge him to resist the telptation of advice from a second-ratd lawyer

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who doesn't even understand the parliamentary process.

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Can I point out to him that if he is to advise his opposite

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number, you might remind hil that the repeal of the 72 Etropean

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communities act will give m`ny, many opportunities to amend

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and debate every single aspdct of the discussions around

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With the mild exception of his rudeness about the honourable

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gentleman's legal qualifications, I agree with everything he said

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Can I wish the secretary of state all the best for this afternoon

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in managing to get through this statement without getting

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into trouble from his boss, the Prime Minister, this tile?

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He seems to be aiming to do that by not telling us anything.

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So, Mr Speaker, we may be no clearer if this is a soft Brexit or a hard

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Brexit - but we do know that it is a dog's Brexit.

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This Government is frankly irresponsible.

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An irresponsible failure to provide any details about their plans that

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are having an impact beyond this place.

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Mr Speaker, there is clearlx a mandate for Brexit

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from this referendum, but there is no mandate

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Now, three days before he was appointed, the secretary

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of state published an article saying it was very important to publish

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Can he tell us, when is he going to publish that White Paper?

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And as someone who, for manx years railed about the importance

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of the powers of backbenchers and Parliament against

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the executive, can he give ts now, with a straight face,

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an answer to the question, where is the Government's m`ndate

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Either from this house or the country?

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I have been a great admirer of the Secretary of State

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for his staunch defence of Civil Liberties, his statnch

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defence of the prerogatives of this house.

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I was a great admirer when he tabled to move the bill on parliamdntary

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When he stirringly told us that executive decisions

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by the Government should be subject to the scrutiny and approval

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of parliament, so could he tell us, on the basis of one's

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constitutional principle, does he believe the Prime Mhnister

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can now arrogate to herself the exclusive right to interpret

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what Brexit means, and impose it upon the country,

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rather than protect the rightful role of scrutiny and

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We cannot tell the difference between accountability

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Has my right honourable fridnd observed that some seem to have

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forgotten that the Referendtm Act gave the right to this Parlhament

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to make the decision in the Referendum Act 2015?

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That, furthermore, the sovereignty of the people was given

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the opportunity to make that decision on the occasion

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The Brexit Secretary said in his view Sir William

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The migrant camp in Calais known as the Jungle is due to be

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The plight of lone children there is an issue which has

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In the Commons, the Conserv`tive MP, David Burrowes,

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asked an urgent question of the Home Secretary Amber Rudd

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about the progress being made to bring children with family

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The Home Office's energy in the last few weeks has been signific`nt

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and recognises the scale of the challenge.

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However, that energy is not shared by the French authorities,

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who do not provide appointmdnts do not provide interpreters,

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and don't provide resources to make transfers in the days

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the Home Office wants, or the weeks, rather than months.

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Last month, the Home Secret`ry told the home affairs select comlittee

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if she were to get all of the children to which we have a legal

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obligation over to the UK as soon as possible, and she has

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confirmed today, as many as possible before demolition,

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and last week she said that, compassion does

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And today she has also said, we look forward to saying

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that the first 100 child refugees are coming into the UK withhn weeks.

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So, can the Home Secretary provide assurance today that all chhldren

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eligible for transfer to thd UK will be in a place of safetx before

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I appreciate, particularly, his comments about the urgency hssue.

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I share his view on this matter being urgent, as I know

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And having been at a meeting today for nearly two hours

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with my French counterpart, he had eight or nine people with him

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I think it is fair to say that the bureaucratic element

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of this will now be dealt with with the sort of urgency

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In January of this year, I visited the Calais Jungle refugee

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camp, and I would remind thhs House that words cannot convey thd horror

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People sleeping under canvas in subzero temperatures,

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the squalor, the lack of sanitation, the violence, the threat

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Nobody should be in those conditions for a minute longer than necessary,

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Will the Home Secretary reassure the House that these childrdn

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who have, in the words of the amendment, either a legal

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right to come to the UK or ht would be in their best interest

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those children will not be scattered to all parts of France.

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These children will be in one place, in a designated children's Centre.

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It is clear that there is whdespread concern across this house

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about the current lack of transparency from the Government

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And, given the lack of meanhngful action to date to bring these

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unaccompanied minors to the UK, will the Home Secretary agrde

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with me that it would be a good idea for the Government to commit

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to publishing a regular upd`te on numbers in progress,

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and can she commit to publishing a fortnightly update?

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We have to be careful with how much information we share publicly

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about these numbers, and about these plans,

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because it is not always in the best interest of the children

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for the criminal gangs who choose to traffic them to know

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the information about what the plans are, how many children

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My honourable lady says, "Come on," to me.

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She does a disservice to this Government.

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And to the intention is that we have on this side of the House to look

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Simply to take a higher mor`l stance as though total disclosure

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would be the answer, she is wrong.

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And I would ask the right honourable worded lady to work with us on this.

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I am very happy to be compldtely frank with her and talk

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to her about it, that in terms of public disclosure of somd of this

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information, we do not think it is in the best interest

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This camp will be cleared within days, and it does appear

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there has been a huge bureatcratic confusion in France.

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Apparently only four French officials in the camp,

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Surely the British Government should set up a task force using British

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officials working together with French officials to go

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to the camp, sort it out, find out who the people aren't

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In the last the media reported that the Home Office have announced

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the doubling of Asylum experts in France working on the Calais

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Does the Home Secretary really think that is enough?

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Well, the honourable lady h`s an advantage over me.

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I haven't seen this particular announcement.

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It's been a great pleasure to be here for the past hour.

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Naturally, she has seen it before I have.

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I look forward to having a good look at it, and if she'd like me

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do, I will certainly write to her about it.

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Government plans to lift thd ban on new grammar schools in England

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came under fresh challenge `s MPs returned to Westminster.

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The proposal emerged last month and sparked fierce debate,

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with Labour and some Conservative MPs voicing concern at the love

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The issue of grammar schools was raised at question time

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as ministers look at making school funding "fairer".

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Given the mixed views on gr`mmar schools and the huge piece of work

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that will be required to ensure that no child is left behind,

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because certainly that is mx fear, can the Minister please explain

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to me how that can possibly be of higher priority than fixhng

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the flawed funding model th`t has seen thousands of children seriously

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underfunded for decades in counties like mine?

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Well, I very much recognise the concerns that she set ott

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That is precisely why, shortly before the house

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went into summer recess, I set out my determination to get

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on with the work of bringing forward a national funding formula.

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We will be responding to thd first age of consultation shortly,

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and at the same time then, setting out the next stage of how

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But we also need to challenge ourselves to have more good school

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places, particularly in parts of the country

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where there are still are not enough, particularly

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So we need to get on with both of those pieces of work.

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There is another group of schools, Mr Speaker, which offer

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real social mobility, where the educational attainment gap

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is most narrowed, with over 98% of them rated good or outst`nding,

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yet they are in the areas of most high deprivation and have

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the majority of children on free school meals.

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These are our much-valued nursery schools.

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Their funding is now putting their ongoing viability at risk

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Shouldn't she be better foctsing on their continued attainment rather

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Well, I agree with her at that early years is a vital part

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of the education system, and it is precisely why we have been

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consulting on how to make stre we can have a sensible approach

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But I disagree with her characterisation

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Is she encouraged that of those who have been canvassed

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on the issue, two thirds ard supportive of the Prime Minhster's

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policy of increasing social mobility for those from poorer backgrounds

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through the provision of increased grammar schools,

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and will she give an assurance that she will not be deterrdd

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by the sour voices or the b`rrage of criticism of this policy

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by those who are ideological and opposed to the policy,

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even though they benefit from grammar school

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Well, he sets out the situation very clearly, and as he points ott,

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for children on free school meals in particular, grammars are able

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to close the attainment gap because the progress that those

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children make is double those of their better off classmates.

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Now, the party opposite wants to close that opportunity down.

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Perhaps she could tell us how much has been spent on trying to find any

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factors to support their policy of segregated schools.

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Spending public money on policy without any evidential basis

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When the secretary of State last came to the house,

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she could not cite a single piece of evidence that

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Well, a lot of what she said is incorrect.

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She will be well aware of the report by the Sutton trust that very

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clearly set out the improved attainment of free-school-mdal

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children, in particular in grammar schools.

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I think it is totally unten`ble to set out her concerns on grammar

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schools, while resolutely being opposed to having any kind

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of consultation document th`t looks at how we should

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We do want to look at how wd can reform grammar schools.

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The education system has ch`nged beyond all recognition over recent

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years, and it is right that we now look at the role grammars c`n play

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There was also a challenge following a report on the workload

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Today the Education Policy Hnstitute revealed that one in five tdachers

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in England is working more than 60 hours a week.

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What priority is given to analysing why schools are finding it

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so difficult to retain teachers and the impact that workload

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Well, the EPI report is basdd on a 2013 OECD tallies survdy,

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and in response to that, in 2014, the previous

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Secretary of State announced the workload challenge.

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There were 44,000 responses to that that highlighted issues

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like dialogic marking and data collection.

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We set up review groups to look at that.

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We have accepted their recommendations and now

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we are acting on those recommendations to ease

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the burden of the workload on teachers in our schools.

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You're watching Monday in Parliament.

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The House of Lords calls for action on debt management companies

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Tuesday will see an urgent debate on the situation in Syria.

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The United Nations has calldd for an end to the bombardment

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of rebel-held eastern Aleppo by Russian backed Syrian forces

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where more than 250,000 civilians are trapped.

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The former Conservative Chidf Whip and International Development

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Secretary Andrew Mitchell condemned the role of Russia in the crisis.

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On the 19th of September, a United Nations relief convoy was ddstroyed

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in the early evening. 31 trtcks loaded with food and medicines were

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attacked from the air. Warehouses and medical clinics were severely

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damaged and 18 humanitarian workers were killed. This is undoubtedly a

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war crime and it was undoubtedly perpetrated by Russian forcds. In

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the last three days, there have been 100 were wounded being attended to

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in Aleppo. There have been 02 bombing runs. Many people, hncluding

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children, very seriously injured. At lunchtime today, at least fhve

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people died as a result of ` government rocket attack. The use of

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incendiary munitions such as cluster bombs, the UN made clear th`t the

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systematic use of such indiscriminate weapons in ddnsely

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populated areas amounts to ` war crime.

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Legislation giving Wales new powers to raise income tax,

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without a referendum, has had its first airing in Parliament.

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The Wales Bill will also en`ble the Welsh Assembly to call htself

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The assembly and Welsh government have come of age. They are no mature

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institutions and part of thd fabric of Welsh political life. Thhs bill

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recognises this new maturitx in some key ways. Firstly, the asselbly and

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Welsh government are recognhsed as permanent parts of the UK's

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constitutional arrangements, not to be abolished unless the people of

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Wales decided. This statement recognises what we all know to be

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true, that he assembly and Welsh government are part of the TK's

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constitutional fabric and are here to stay. This bill delivers more

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accountable devolved governlent for Wales. With a coming-of-age I've

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already talked about comes ` renewed responsibility and a knee for the

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assembly and Welsh government to become truly accountable. The key

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element of this is removing the need for a referendum in order to

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introduce the Welsh rates of income tax. This will mean the Welsh

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government can take on more responsibility for how it r`ises

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money as well as how that money is spent. It gives the governmdnt and

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interest in ensuring the economy in Wales is performing well. The reward

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for that would be down to the Welsh government and gives it that power

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to exercise for a purpose. Laws passed in 2014 stated

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that there should be a referendum in Wales on any proposals

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to devolve tax-raising powers. The former Welsh Secretary Peter -

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now Lord - Hain wondered whx Could it be that they are frightened

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is in invited to vote, a majority, maybe a large one in Wales, would

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turn down the powers? I suspect so because otherwise why be afraid of

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trusting the voters? Could ht be they wish to run income tax

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devolution through without addressing the irrefutable dvidence

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that the way the Barnett formula has operated has short-changed Wales by

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at least 600 million annually, in contrast to Scotland. About a new

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Barnett floor, the one on one of the first ministers insisted upon, and

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without the framework he wants, it would be pure folly for Walds to

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have income tax devolved. Wd are united in needing new legislation.

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In a transparent and effecthve manner. That overcomes the

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shortcomings of the tangled mishmash of existing law. Legislation which

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has the confidence and which the government of Wales heralds as a

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positive step to overcome ctrrent deficiencies in our constitttional

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settlement. I fear this bill falls short of those ambitions.

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Debt management companies who cold-call customers need to be

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brought under control, the House of Lords has been told.

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There were concerns companids which approach customers offering

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debt or financial advice cotld be offering a bad deal,

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The Lib Dem peer Lord Sharkey raised the issue.

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Cold calling is a huge problem. The FCA acknowledges that many of the 30

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million cold calls selling fee paying debt management servhces were

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misleading and damaging and affect the most financially disadv`ntaged

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in our society. The governmdnt has promised the FCA's review of cold

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calling will be published bdfore the end of the year. Can the Minister

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say if this review will look at why cold calling for mortgages has long

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been banned but not for the high-cost credit or four fed-paying

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debt management services? The answer to the last part of the noble Lord's

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question is in relation to what happened with right to buy hn 1 80s,

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when there was mis-selling by mortgage brokers targeting council

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house tenants who had the bdnefit of a huge discount. They were not

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interested the creditworthiness of those as mortgage borrowers and

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that's why that measure was introduced. Insofar as cold calling

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is concerned, the government will be introducing legislation through the

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digital bill which will place a statutory legation via the

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information Commissioner on the code on cold calling. The governlent

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should take action to put a finite figure on what credit card... What

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credit organisations can ch`rge especially because it is normally

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the poorest people in the community who are paying the highest rates of

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interest. The noble Lord is quite right. It's why be introducdd a cap

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on payday loans .8% which mdans if you borrow ?100 for a day, the

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maximum amount you can pay hnterest is 80p. It isn't just cold calling.

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It's advertising which is allegedly controlled. I watched one l`st night

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on the TV which is highly questionable. Is it not a m`tter of

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bringing together all the authorities, not just to have a

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review, but an action plan to sort it out? There are many elderly

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people who are being duped out of thousands of pounds and is ht not

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time we took action? I understand the strong feelings held by many

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local lords on this particular subject. Insofar as vulnerable

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people are concerned, as I said in the budget this year, a large sum of

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money was identified to help vulnerable people and enabld them to

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stop these sorts of calls bding made. Would the Minister agree with

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me that this is an area where there is very significant participation by

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the not for profit voluntarx sector? Would he undertake to draw the

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attention of the SCA and other authorities to their partichpation,

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so they may be listened to `nd their role receive the recognition that

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will help people? Of course and can I pay tribute to the initiative of

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his setting up of life-savers, a joint project with the church and

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unions? It's helping childrdn to develop good financial habits at a

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young age by setting up savhngs clubs in primary schools, in

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partnership with credit unions. I also welcome the initiative of the

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Church of England in establhshing the just Finance foundation to

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develop and promote the noble primate's vision of deliverhng a

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more just system. Alicia McCarthy's here

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for the rest of the week,

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