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Welcome to Monday in Parliament. The menus from Westminster. Fears over

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job losses after the sale of Vauxhall to a French car

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manufacturer. Our employment laws make it easier to sack workers in

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the UK compared to those who work in France and Germany which puts them

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at an immediate disadvantage. Advice for the Culture Secretary after she

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raises concerns about a takeover of sky by 21st Fox. A company that

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should not be persecuted because the left doesn't like it. Office dress

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codes for women such as high heels have objected and ridiculed. Working

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in flat shoes does not make me reach for the smelling salts. I imagine

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clients will be spectacularly unbothered by the heel height of

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anyone in attendance. The House of Commons was today dominated by two

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begged business deals, the first the sale of Vauxhall. General Motors is

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selling its American arm for ?1.9 billion. The buyer is a French firm,

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PSA, which owns Peugeot. They have promised to return Vauxhall to

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profit but workers are concerned to secure their jobs will be especially

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after leaving the European Union. That the company will honour the

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agreement they have with the Vauxhall workforce. That Vauxhall

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pensions will be in at least as good a position as they are today. That

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the treatment of the UK division will be equal to those of other

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countries within the Vauxhall group. That the identity of Vauxhall will

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continue to be distinct and prominent. That the strategy of the

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new company be one of the building on existing strengthss and not

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closures. Taking opportunities to increase sales in the world.

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Although I welcome the promise to one of existing contracts, I am

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deeply concerned about the 40,000 currently employed in Luton and in

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the wider supply chain who will be worried about the future of their

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jobs today. Can be Secretary of State confirm what assurances he has

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personally received of the future of Vauxhall's plants and the wider UK

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workforce beyond existing contracts? Can the Minister confirm what

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support has been offered to PSA following Britain's exit from the

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European Union? We welcome Nissan's decision to stay in the UK as a

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result of assurances provided by this government, has PSA been

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offered the same deal? Would not make sense for the government to set

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out its strategy for the sector as a whole than enlightening businesses

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one crisis at a time. I am grateful for the questions. These have been

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worrying times for the workforce over the last two weeks and I think

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the statements made by both parties today have been welcomed, not just

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by me but by the speed unions as being very much steps in the right

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direction. It is very important that we should hold the company to

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account for this. In terms of the points mentioned, the company has

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said that it will honour the agreement they have with the company

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and with the unions. The extent to at least 2021. I have constituents

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in the Ellesmere Port plant who are reliant on the local supply chain,

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so this is causing huge worry in the area. What can you say to reassure

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my constituents about the future, particularly given that our

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employment laws make it easier to sack workers in the UK compared to

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those who work in France and Germany, which puts them at an

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immediate disadvantage? And what can he say to reassure them about the

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fact that we are leaving the European Union and the single market

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and that again puts them potentially at a disadvantage in the competition

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that is to come. What I would say is first of all the reason that we have

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a successful record in this country is that our car plants and their

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workforces are highly efficient and we shouldn't forget that. I can't

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help feeling the Minister being little complacent. Much of the

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exporters left for Europe. Would it really makes sense for Peugeot to

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continue left-hand drive production outside the EU? The minister doesn't

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seem to be answering the questions on Brexit head-on and many of my

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constituents are worried about this. Given the thousands of high skilled

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jobs in the future and the importance of the risk of them going

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and the importance to the economy, what is he going to do to ensure

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future EU market access for this and other very important industries? The

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head of PSA said today that Brexit offers some opportunities, but she

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can have my assurance that I will do everything within my power to make

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sure that the terms of trade that we have through negotiations are as

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advantageous as possible. After those exchanges on Vauxhall, MPs

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turned their attention to the attempt by 21st-century Fox, owned

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by Rupert Murdoch, to take over the broadcaster Sky. At the end of last

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year Fox and Sky announced they had reached a deal. Rupert Murdoch has

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agreed to pay nearly 12 billion to gain full ownership. The Culture

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Secretary came to the Commons to up date MPs about hard position on the

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bed. I can confirm formal notification for the proposed merger

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was lodged with the European Commission on Friday to March. I, on

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Friday, wrote to the parties to inform them that I am minded to

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issue a European intervention notice on the basis that I believe there

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are public interest considerations, that may be relevant to this

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proposed merger that warrant further investigation. She said she was

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concerned about media plurality. My concern is the merger will bring

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under common of increased control a number of significant News and News

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Corporation's newspapers. As a result I have told parties I am

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minded to ask for a report from off, the impact of the merger on media

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plurality before considering the matter further. She also said she

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had concerns about broadcasting standards. I am concerned about the

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number of breaches of broadcasting standards by 21st-century Fox as

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well as the behaviour and corporate governance failures of News

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Corporation in the past. In light of those matters I am minded to

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intervene on these grounds and to ask of com to investigate them

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further. Robert Murdoch attempted to take over Sky five years ago but it

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was derailed by the outcry over phone hacking at one of his

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newspapers. The company names may have changed since the previous bed

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for sky was withdrawn in 2011 but we are still dealing with media

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plurality, misconduct and the Murdochs. The Secretary of State has

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said that she is minded to intervene first on media plurality grounds.

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The bed would put an even greater amount of media power in the UK in

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the hands of the Murdoch family. It makes the Murdoch empire even

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better. We might call at Empire 2.0. The most troubling issues raised are

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not about the content of James Martin's programming but about the

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content of his character. The Secretary of State has rightly

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referred to feel years of corporate governance during the phone hacking

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scandal but it is not clear that these failings all strictly speaking

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under the heading broadcasting standards, even though they are

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central to whether this merger should be approved. The measure is

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likely to increase the influence of report Murdoch and his family on the

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media in the UK, and Fox already have a controlling interest in Sky.

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News Corporation runs newspapers throughout UK and radio stations. At

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a time when smaller titles are struggling with poor circulation

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numbers, and established newspapers are having to rethink their business

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models to survive, giving yet more power to the already dominant media

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giant seems counterintuitive. What I want to ask is whether she will be

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certain not to involve herself in the socialist witchhunt against

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Rupert Murdoch and News Corporation, Fox News, which has done so much,

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both through newspapers publishing and through the launch of Sky News,

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to increase plurality in the media in this country, a wonderfully

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successful company that should not be persecuted because the left

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doesn't like it. We already know that under James and report

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Murdoch's readership, the companies they controlled bride and bullied

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their way around British politics. They poison the well of British

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political engagement. They used anti-competitive practices at every

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possible turn to try to destroy competitors and they made it

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impossible for media diversity to flourish in this country, so why on

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earth would anybody think they were fit and proper people to take over?

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They'd only excuse, when they like their way through evidence in

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parliament, was that their company was far too big for them to possibly

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know what was going on in some outpost in the United Kingdom? That

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doesn't suggest they would be any good at running this now. The

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honourable gentleman has been on the record on several occasions on his

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views on these matters and I am sure his points will be heard. Last week,

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the House of Lords faulted for the EU citizens to be given a guaranteed

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right to stay in the UK. Regardless of Brexit negotiations, and on

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Sunday, the Commons committee on exiting the EU also declare the

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government should get people from other EU countries a legal like to

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remain. The government is resisting such a move but at question Time

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some MPs apply further pressure. We can't even the port convicted

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criminals. The reality is that even if we wanted to, which we don't, we

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are not going to deport a single EU national. It seems to me we might as

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well acknowledge this fact now while reserving the right, if in the

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extremely unlikely possibility of our EU partners reporting in the UK

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citizens, which they want, we can change our minds, but let's at least

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reassure these people know. My honourable friend makes a very

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feared observation about the reality of the situation. I would however

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point out to him that as he seeks the assurance uncertainty that the

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EU citizens want, I see could also for the UK citizens and other parts

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of the European Union, because it is a priority. The Prime Minister has

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said she will move onto that as soon as negotiations begin. The Home

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Secretary talks about reciprocal arrangements but when she gets round

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to reading the report, she will see that representatives of UK citizens

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living abroad, to a man and woman, gave evidence to the committee that

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they want the British government to give a unilateral agreement to EU

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citizens living here because they think it will benefit them. Will she

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listen to the voice of UK citizens abroad and get that unilateral

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guarantee? There are over 1 million living in the European Union. They

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are not represented by the groups who gave evidence at the Brexit

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committee. I cared about every one of those and I repeat that I think

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it is incumbent upon this government to protect their possession as we

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protect EU citizens. You are watching Monday in Parliament.

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The sessions are being made to quickly and money is being wasted.

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That was the consensus of witnesses to the work and pensions committee

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which is looking at how outsourced companies are assessing people for

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personal independence payment. It is a benefit paid to people with

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disabilities. It was prompted by government plans to restrict the

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eligibility criteria. Currently the DWP are using policy. Their policies

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are continuously harming people and every time I approach the DWP in

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individual cases, our policy is this, I am then taken to tribunal.

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The policies are absolutely blown out the window. Until they start

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adhering to their own guidelines, adds to the letter of the law, which

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each tribunal represents, to prevent miscarriages of justice, this is

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never going to be conducive. I don't think it is the worst part of the

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process but it is where it says please provide contact details for

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your health care professionals, the impression is given to claimants

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that the DWP will contact those health care professionals and get

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evidence, and in all the cases we have worked on we have never seen a

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case where the assessment provider has actually requested evidence from

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the health care professionals. The committee chair suggested there was

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an element of self selection going on. One thing when somebody comes to

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my surgery, nobody says actually this is working really well. It is

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not working well. It is impossible that the government does sometimes

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check up on those health professionals but they are not the

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people who come to us or to you. Because it went well in the proper

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decision was made. I can see I went for the very first time to an

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assessment last week and there was a combination of both mental and

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physical disabilities, it was somebody who was previously on

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disability living allowance. They thought they had it for life but

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unfortunately they were at two years too young for that, but I have to

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say that the examination was really good. I went there thinking it was

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going to be absolutely appalling but I was surprised how they took two

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hours and there was also a physical examination, because one of the

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issues we have is that when we see the appeal papers comes through,

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there is a very detailed muscular skeletal report and it says this

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person can move their arms 50, 60 degrees or whatever, and people tell

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us there is no examination, it doesn't happen. We have challenged

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them about that, and Atos have said that the best of the observation is

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that it is a casual observation, which is not an examination that can

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give you such specific results. We checked about it with the local

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surgeon and they said it would be impossible to actually get that

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level of detail unless it was a guided and instructed formal

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examination. We need a place in the system that

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requires the DWP to look at a decision. Before, you would get

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appeal papers which was DWP looking at their decision. Mandatory

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consideration gave us some hope that stage of the process would be given

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more time and attention, but on the ground that's not consistent. We

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don't see when it's successful, we see when it goes wrong, but I would

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say it goes wrong too often. We go to appeals regularly. What's really

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frustrating is that the DWP have the right to send a presenting officer.

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We never see them. There were announcements made in Parliament and

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we saw somebody wants the next day. I honestly think that if the DWP

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observed the tribunal 's, and had to some way justify their decisions,

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they would feed that back up the line and we may get better quality

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decisions. The government has called on employers to look at their dress

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codes to make sure they don't discriminate against women. It

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follows a petition calling for a ban on firms making women wear high

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heels at work. 15,000 people signed the petition set up by Nicola Thorpe

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after she was sent home for refusing to wear high heels. MPs heard

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similar stories from hundreds of women. We found attitudes that

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belonged more, I was going to say in the 1950s, but probably the 1850s

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might be more accurate, fan in the 21st-century. Women, especially

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young women in vulnerable employment, were exported at work.

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Threatened with dismissal if they complained. They were forced to bear

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pain all day, or to wear clothing that was totally unsuitable for the

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tasks they were asked to perform, or to dress in no way that they felt

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sexualised their appearance and was demeaning. It was time for action.

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We are calling on the government to start a campaign particularly

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targeted at areas where people are most vulnerable, like in

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hospitality, to inform both employees of their rights and

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employers of their obligations. I recognise that some women will

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choose to wear high heels of their own volition and I will not

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criticise them. We should be free to wear whatever we like. What I cannot

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tolerate is employers trying to force women into an ideal of what

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constitutes professionalism or power dressing by insisting that

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particular items such as cripplingly high heels must be worn. The site of

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a woman in flat shoes does not usually send me reaching for the

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smelling salts. I imagine that clients coming to meetings will be

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spectacularly unbothered by the heel height of anyone in attendance and

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rather more focused on the business at hand. I must of course their

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meeting is being held in the 1970s. Ahead of International Women's Day

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on Wednesday, every member of this house should be doing their utmost

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to hear directly from women and understand what it is they

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experience. When we do hear from women, it's not enough just to

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recognise their experiences of sexism and... Women have a choice on

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whether to wear high heels or not. I'm five foot ten so I've never

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needed a few extra inches. Whether they wear high heels or not should

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be up to them, not to some outdated, dodgy 1970s workplace ticked that.

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Employers, she said, it should review dress codes. The government

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utterly condemns such dress requirements whether Fx is

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discriminatory. We support the existing legislation that affects

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men and women. It's clear that this legislation must be more widely

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understood and it should be better in forced. A joint committee of MPs

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and peers has questioned the Home Secretary about who is responsible

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for cyber security. Members of the National Security strategy committee

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said the lines of accountability were not clear. All ministries must

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be facing up to the threat from cyber, as we've seen in the examples

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in the Baltics. The traffic lights went out first and so on. Everyone

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must be affected. Can you advise us which minister we ought to call to

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give evidence to this committee on the whole question of cyber

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security. At risk of volunteering myself for another session, I also

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have strong interest in cyber from a Homeland security point of view,

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particularly through the National Crime Agency that does a lot of work

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on the dark web to track organised crime. The answer is that it does

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have a lot of ministerial cover because it is an area that crosses

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over to so many different departments, as you rightly said,

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culture, media and sport through the Digital agenda, the Chancellor

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through the prosperity agenda, and the Cabinet Office, who are

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coordinating it. The Chancellor does chaired the subcommittee, but I

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think I would humbly suggest that depending on where your focus is

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going to be, because it covers so many different areas, defence,

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organised crime, sexual exploitation, digital element, I

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would focus on the different ministers responsibilities and

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perhaps everybody could have the opportunity. I produced the most

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cyber strategy in 2008 and most people couldn't spell cyber. I had

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difficulty in getting some departments to accept they would

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even be a cyber strategy. When the cyber strategy came out, I was made

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cyber security minister. I hear what you say about working out which area

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we are interested in, but bearing in mind the all embracing nature of

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cyber now, it seems there should be a minister who sees their role is

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absolutely making sure this is co-ordinated across to parliaments.

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It is a crowded place in terms of different ministerial

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responsibilities and it is a reasonable suggest you're making.

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It's something that perhaps a number of us can reflect on. The

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implications on Brexit of various aspects of life are being thoroughly

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aired, but here's one possible ramifications you probably hadn't

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thought of yet. Will we need more allotments after Brexit? The private

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landowners are often well placed to make land available for allotments.

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Would he encourage Defra to promote discussions between councillors and

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the NFU and other representatives of landowners to see if they can

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promote such private provision? My noble friend makes an important

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point. Haven't spoken with the National allotment Society, they are

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discussing and bringing to fruition a plan with British Telecom making

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available a lot of land that has previously been disused telephone

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exchanges. 1200 will be used for allotments. I take on board what the

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noble Mordt has said and Echo it. 100 years ago last month, the

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Germans cleared unrestricted U-boat action on this nation and almost

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starved us to death and allotments became very important. Whilst

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allotments are wonderful things, does the Minister not feel that

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protecting our merchant fishing with enough warships might be more

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important? My Lords, it's like around of Mornington Crescent. He

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always succeeds in bringing it in. I agree about the importance of

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allotments, not just for a healthier lifestyles, but ensuring we have

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appropriate food supplies. Once we've left the European Union, we

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will probably have to grow a lot more of our own food. Therefore we

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will need many many more allotments, in which case we need to look at the

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law again. Can he tell me whether the Department for exiting the EU

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has this on its agenda? My lords, as I've indicated in relation to an

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earlier response to the noble Lord, Lord West, growing our own food is

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of importance anyway. I don't know if we are looking at this through

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the Department of exceeding the EU, but it is of extreme importance, as

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are all the other benefits from allotments and why they are so

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important. More allotments, one of the more offbeat predictions about

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life after Brexit. That's it from Monday in Parliament. Keith

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McDougall will be here for the rest of the week. From me, Christina

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Cooper, goodbye.

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