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The Prime Minister spent all morning

chairing a meeting of the European

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Union strategy back at... It was a

first time the group had to

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formulate discuss future trade

arrangements. Theresa May took place

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at the dispatch box to update MPs on

her trip to Brussels and formal

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agreement to... The Prime Minister

gave...

We trigger of Article 50 and

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began the first phase. We

demonstrated what can be achieved

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with commitment to perseverance on

all sides. We have already seen

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ministers in our cabinet like the

Brexit circuitry and the Secretary

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of State for the environment, food

and roll affairs give the impression

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that the agreement can be changed or

ignored. That it effectively does

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not amount to a hell of beans. It is

not very reassuring that this is the

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end product of eight months of

negotiation.

One Conservative picked

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up on comments that Britain would

not be allowed to cherry pick a

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trade deal. She sets out the

position of where the EU is.

The

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chicken from the Government has

neither discussed nor agreed this

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and therefore it is not government

policy?

I noticed the comments

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Michel Barnier made in relation to

the negotiations on the trade deal.

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This is a matter we will start the

negotiations on as a result of the

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decisions taken last Friday by the

EU Council. I can tell my right

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honourable friend that today one of

the senior members of the

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negotiating team has made very clear

that the UK can have its own bespoke

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agreement in terms of the trade

agreement.

At the weekend there were

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reports some Tories wanted to tear

up the working Time directive after

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Brexit. No fewer than eight MPs

raised the matter.

Given our cabinet

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colleagues are agitating for some of

these rights to be done away with

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well she guarantee that post Brexit

none of the working Time

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regulations, will be done away with

after we leave the EU?

We are

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bringing these rights into UK law. I

have said we will maintain workers'

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rights...

Changes may remade to

working time. The Prime Minister

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refused to give a cast-iron

guarantee that there will be no

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changes.

A Labour Party that voted

against bringing workers' rights can

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be trusted with working rights.

Theresa May was anxious to condemn

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the use some MPs received following

a vote on Brexit last week.

It is

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natural there are many strongly held

views on all sides. We should debate

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them with all the passion and

conviction that makes our democracy

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what it is. There are can never be a

place for threats of violence and

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intimidation. Our politics must be

better than that.

The Daily Mail

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which previously branded the

judiciary enemies of the people is

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now whipping up hatred against

backbench rebel MPs. Threats and

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intimidation have no place in...

The

Leader of the Opposition said that

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threats and intimidation should not

form parts of our political life.

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The Prime Minister pointedly

referred to the abuse that her

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election candidates received. Unless

she and everyone accepts that abuse

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comes from all sides we will not

make any progress. If she so wishes

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I can accommodate her this week

ensure the litany of abuse I have

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received in the election and since.

Will she accept that unless we

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accept it comes from all areas we

will not move forward.

Later MPs

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described some of the abusive

messages and death threats they

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received. The Home Secretary made a

statement about a new report on

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intimidation in public life. Amber

Rudd said the law shouldn't

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differentiate between online and

real life and she said the kind of

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its MPs received were deterring

people from entering politics.

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Everybody should be treated... Which

party an MP stands for and how they

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vote should not be met with

vitriolic and disgusting messages

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suggesting they should be hanged in

public or get what's coming to them

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or perhaps most unacceptable of all

that their unborn child should die.

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Across the chamber we have much to

disagree on but we are agreed on

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this matter. Everyone in this House

condemns, particularly if I may say,

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the abuse and harassment that the

right honourable life Hackney

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received. You have our support in

condemning all of that. We cannot

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reach a situation where people are

put off from expressing their views,

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engaging in debate or politics in

the first place because of fears of

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being targeted. People being able...

The report makes recommendations for

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political parties, social media

companies, the media,

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law-enforcement and everyone in

public life. This reflects the fact

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that tackling abuse is a joint

responsibility. We will consider the

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recommendations in detail and we

will respond to them in due course.

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Social media companies have a role

to play. They're very quick to take

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down material in breach of

copyright. They must be made to

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react as quickly to offensive

material and material that incite

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hatred or violence. If necessary a

system of punitive fines should be

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put in place. Mainstream media also

has a role to play. When politicians

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get death threats as a result of how

they fought in this House that is

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not the primary response body of

social media companies. If anyone is

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responsible, it is the headline

writers who accuse judges of being

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enemies of the people and elected

members of parliament as being

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mutineers and saboteurs.

We are not

exactly shrinking violets in this

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House and I think most of us are

capable of engaging in a robust

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debate but I have to say I have been

shocked by the level of vitriolic

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abuse I have received in the course

of the last week. Shocked also to

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realise that actually it is really

the new normal for large numbers of

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members of this House, a sort of

hidden unpleasantness that dominates

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our lives. And also concerned that

whilst undoubtedly some of it is

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coming from people who may be a

little unhinged, the stimulus for it

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undoubtedly comes from the way in

which national media, some sections,

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choose to report the politics of

this country in a way that is

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designed to entertain but also to

intimidate.

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Dishy agreed that what we have got

is a toxic triangle, the divisive

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issue of the Brexit issue, the

Telegraph and the Daily Mail

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identifying certain honourable

member as targets and facilitated by

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social media, the mob following. In

other countries, MPs are threatened

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of violence, we call that tyranny.

We call it fascism. But that is what

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is happening here. As well as

commending the bravery, rightly, of

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her Hons friends, is she going to be

brave herself? Is she going to call

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in the editors of the Daily Mail and

the Telegraph?

In voting as you

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think fit on any political issue,

you as members of Parliament are and

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never mutineers. You are never

traitors, you are never malcontents,

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you are never enemies of the people.

You are dedicated, hard-working,

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committed public servants, doing

what you believe to be right.

John

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Bercow. You are watching Monday in

Parliament. You can find all our

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programmes on the BBC iPlayer. A

senior engineer to review building

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regulations because of the Grant

Holt has told MPs the current system

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is not fit the purpose.

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In an interim report,

Dame Judith Hackett said she had

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been shocked by how some residential

properties had been

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built and maintained.

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And she didn't mince her words.

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There is a systematic failure here

which needs to be addressed by a

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significant culture change and be

organised by a large part of people

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who are part of the system and that

is to design, build and maintain

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high rise, complex buildings and it

includes policymakers among others.

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The system we have in place has

evolved and it is overly complex and

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confusing. There is confusion about

roles and responsibilities

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throughout and a general lack of

competence in accreditation in many

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areas. We've identified numerous

ways in which the system is gained

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worked around because of these

factors. That is how I have

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concluded the regulatory system is

not fit for purpose.

Are you

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confident the construction industry

is sufficiently competent? You focus

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on competency right through the

report, to implement the

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recommendations you make in the

report now, certainly in the future?

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I am confident they are capable of

doing it and as long as the will is

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there, I believe it is eminently

possible. Why is that? Because I

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have already seen them doing it

once. I spent ten years as chair of

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the Health and Safety Executive.

When I started as chair of the

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Health and Safety Executive,

construction had a poor record for

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the safety of its own employees and

it underwent a transformation in

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that decade and resulted in us

building the safest Olympic project

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ever. That was a massive change in

the way it cares for, looks after

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and manages the safety of its

employees. What we are asking them

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to do in this report is repeat that

with their focus on the people who

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will be living in the buildings they

build, in the decades after they

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walk away from those projects.

You

have made any recommendations on

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this interim report, any thoughts on

what should happen as we go on

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retrofitting sprinters?

There is two

things, a clear case are looking at

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additional layers of protection you

can provide. It could include

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sprinklers, it could include other

measures, including additional

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staircases. Additional doors,

different means of protection, alarm

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systems, all of those different ways

of providing protection. What is

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clear to me is there isn't a simple

one answer to this that will apply

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to every building.

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Dame Judith was asked

if she could reassure people

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living in high-rise blocks.

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There has been an extraordinary

amount of work done by the Fire And

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Rescue Services in conjunction with

local authorities and central

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government, to put in place,

measures to improve their safety

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since Grenfell. What I am trying to

do is build a better system for the

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future. My report does not say all

buildings are unsafe, there is clear

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evidence that many people build to

high standards, in spite of the

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weaknesses and the mistakes in the

regulatory system. What we have to

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do is make that more widespread,

much more effective and in

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particular, we have to keep the

process going throughout the life

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cycle of the building, not just

during construction.

Even the

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waiting for a change of system,

which he will eventually

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recommend...

They should take

assurances from the measures that

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have already taken place, but there

will be further measures that will

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take that even further.

And the

owners should be doing the sort of

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things in the immediacy?

Yes.

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Well, about an hour

after Dame Judith had finished

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speaking to the Committee,

the Communities Secretary

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gave his response to her

report in the Commons.

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I can confirm the government has

accepted all of Dame Judi's

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recommendations. We call for a

change in culture and system that

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encourage people to do the right

thing. Everyone who is part of the

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system, including government, has an

important role to play in delivering

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this change in culture and mindset.

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Sajid Javid also updated

MPs on the situation

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regarding people made homeless

by the Grenfell Tower fire.

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207 households need new homes.

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144 have so far accepted

an offer of temporary

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or permanent accommodation.

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But that still leaves many

people living in hotels.

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To have so many families, including

children living in hotels and other

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emergency accommodation six months

after the tragedy, is simply not

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good enough. The situation is

undoubtedly complicated, but I have

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been clear with the council but I

expect them to do whatever is

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necessary to help people into

suitable homes as swiftly as

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possible. I am confident accountable

is confident in doing this but I

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will monitor the situation and work

with the council to ensure it

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happens.

Over 200 children still in

bed and breakfast accommodation for

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up to six months, which I believe is

illegal.

First of all, from the date

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of the tragedy, the commitment that

was given that all families will be

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offered temporary accommodation

within three weeks, was met. They

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were all offered that. We have seen

over the last six months, as I have

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continuously updated the House, no

doubt the honourable lady has had

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some updates from her constituents,

we have tried at every stage of both

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permanent accommodation and

different types of temporary

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accommodation. As I have

acknowledged, there are too many

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families in emergency accommodation

and we will continue to work with

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the local authority to continue to

do that.

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Sajid Javid.

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Peers have called for

an independent, judge-led inquiry

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into the collapse of a rape

prosecution after police

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failed to disclose vital

evidence to the defence.

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Liam Allan was charged with 12

counts of rape and sexual assault

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but his trial collapsed after police

were ordered to hand over phone

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records which proved his innocence.

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The 22-year-old student

said his life had been

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flipped upside down,

and he wanted lessons to be learned.

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Mr Allan's ordeal was raised

in an urgent question by a former

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Labour Attorney General.

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The then chairman of the bar Council

complained as far back as 1998 about

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nondisclosure. I believe I'd put

steps in to put matters right.

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Matters seem to have gone backwards

since then. In the light of recent

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events, will the Attorney General

set up an independent enquiry,

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headed by a judge, to examine

whether disclosure rules are being

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complied with, to ensure the timely

delivery of justice?

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My Lords, the matter of disclosure

in the context of criminal cases has

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not gone backwards since 1998. There

is no present intention to set up an

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enquiry of the type referred to by

the noble lord.

The senior

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independent prosecutor at the bar

who averted the recent miscarriage

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of justice, in addition to being a

senior and experienced prosecutor is

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a former Conservative MP, who

described a system creaking for lack

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of resources. Will the noble Lord

and the Minister please consider my

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noble friend 's request.

There is to

be a joint review, an internal

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review by the CPS and the police, in

order to determine what occurred in

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that case. What I would say is

this... With regard to the case

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alluded to by the noble Baroness,

the CPS have acknowledged their

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standards make have fallen below

what is expected and they have

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apologised to all parties involved.

It is reported that it took 14

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months for this young man to be

charged, which means he was on bail

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charged for 14 months. What on earth

is the reason for that? My Lords, I

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am not able to determine why the

question of charge took as long as

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it did in that particular case. And

I appreciate that in some instances

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investigations take longer in some

cases than they do in others.

In

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this case of Liam Allan it was

fairly obvious that this material

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should have been looked at and it

was either the result of lack of

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resources in the police service,

lack of resources the Crown

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Prosecution Service or a deliberate

attempt to put that the course of

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justice. Can the minister estimate

how many people perhaps are

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unlawfully imprisoned as a result of

similar mistakes having occurred in

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the past?

I believe the noble Lord

probably knows the answer to his own

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question. Nevertheless I would make

this point. The alternative is

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advanced by the noble Lord do not

exhaust the issue of why, if it

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occurred, disclosure was not made at

an appropriate time, and that will

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be the subject of a high-level

review, jointly by the CBS and the

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police and it is not for me in this

place to anticipate the outcome of

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that review.

There was widespread

concern that this clear near miss

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carriage of justice, and can he at

least say he can understand why

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people's confidence in the police

service has been very significantly

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undermined?

My Lords, again, I am

not going to anticipate the outcome

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of the review.

The reason why this

particular case has much wider

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relevance than just the particulars

of this individual, however dreadful

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his circumstances may have been is

that it allows credence to be

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attached to the notion that there

are more examples of injustice

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against people who have been accused

of rape than there are of injustice

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against people who have suffered

rape and this is something that

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really the review ought to take into

account.

I note what the noble lady

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says on that matter and I would

react to rate that it is

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fundamentally important that justice

is due both to the accuser and the

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accused. -- I would reiterate.

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Back in 2012, the then Coalition

government introduced a policy

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of automatic enrolment for pensions.

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It meant employers had

to offer a workplace pension

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to their employees,

and contribute towards it too.

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The Work and Pensions Secretary told

MPs that since the scheme

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was introduced five years ago,

some nine million people have been

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enrolled in a workplace pension.

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Earlier, the SNP's spokesman

referred to stories which had

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appeared in the media

over the weekend.

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Today I can announce the government

's ambition to extend automatic

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enrolment to help more people

achieve greater financial security

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in later life. The 2017 review of

automatic enrolment published today

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sets out the steps we intend to take

as we continue to develop a culture

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of routine pension saving. We will

help young people to save to lower

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the age of automatic enrolment from

22 to 18 and we enable people to

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start saving from the first pound of

their earnings to provide a better

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retirement income for lower earners

and

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those in multiple jobs. I have

tabled a written statement setting

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out further detail, including

trialling a number of targeted

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approaches to identify the most

effective ways of increasing pension

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saving amongst the self employed.

Does the Minister agree that auto

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enrolment has been a success to date

and he is right to lower hit but the

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politicians and the pensions

industry must all work together to

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meet the savings an d this country.

I could not agree with my honourable

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friend more and I am facing this

country. I could not agree with my

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honourable friend more and I am

delighted with that we now have 9

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million people signed up to auto

enrolment improving workplace

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improving workplace and employees

many employers and employees have

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signed

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Earlier, the SNP's spokesman

referred to stories which had

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referred to stories which had

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appeared in the media

over the weekend.

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great credit to holidays and extra

protection for night shift workers

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so can the secretary of state

confirm what representations he has

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made at Cabinet to ensure his

colleagues are not successful in

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ripping up our workers' rights?

I

think it is the case that our Right

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honourable friend the Secretary of

State for environment food and rural

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affairs said to not believe

everything you read in the

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newspapers and this government is

committed to protecting employment

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rights.

0:24:500:24:55

David Gauke.

0:24:550:24:56

Now the rules of the Commons

are occasionally arcane,

0:24:560:24:58

sometimes nit-picky,

but you'd have thought

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a former deputy Speaker

would be familiar with them.

0:24:590:25:04

Nigel Evans.

Minister, I know I can

be a little slow at times but I am

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finding it incredibly difficult to

discern what the policy of Her

0:25:090:25:13

Majesty 's opposition is to Brexit.

It changes depending on whom I am

0:25:130:25:18

listening to.

The honourable

gentleman is a very experienced

0:25:180:25:22

member and he is not that slow and

he knows that the policy of the

0:25:220:25:25

opposition is not a matter for the

government of the day. No, no,

0:25:250:25:29

hopeless!

In these circumstances it

is really best not to shake your

0:25:290:25:35

head.

Do not shake your head at me,

Mr Evans. I have told you what the

0:25:350:25:43

position is. Order. You ask an

orderly question or you do not ask a

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question at all.

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I'll bear that in mind.

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And that's it from me, Mandy Baker.

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I'll be back at the

same time tomorrow.

0:25:500:25:52

But, for now, goodbye.

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