27/07/2011 Newsnight Scotland


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Tonight on Newsnight Scotland - one year to the London Olympics and

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three until the Glasgow Commonwealth Games. Stunning venues

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are being built in both cities but when the crowds have gone home what

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are the benefits to Britain? And a revolution in the wake the

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justice system deals with and rape allegations. We will hear what it

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has done to change attitudes. Synchronised swimmers, a lone diver

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and Boris Johnson ruffling his hair - it can hardly escape you notice

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that today marks one year to go up until the London Olympics. Stunning

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stadiums are being built in the deprived area of east London and

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Glasgow has seen construction of a Velodrome and an athlete's village

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for the 2014 Commonwealth Games, but will these events make any

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lasting difference? We all love a party and there is no

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doubt that big events like the Olympics and the Commonwealth Games

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are enjoyed by millions, whether they are at the event or watching

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on TV. But it comes at a cost. Next year's London Olympics have a price

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tag of more than �9 billion but it is argued it will regenerate a run-

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down area of the capital and bring in jobs and new housing. It is also

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hoped the same thing will happen in Glasgow in 2014. In the short term

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there were jobs being created in the construction of the venues and

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there will be long-term jobs also in terms of staff who have to be

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employed in those anys to run the facilities. In the longer terms,

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the hope job creation and healthier lifestyles, participation in sport

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and raising the profile on the international stage will be a

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lasting benefit. It is another three years before Glasgow plays

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host to the Commonwealth Games but already there are signs of change.

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But what happens when those same athletes pack up and go home? The

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difficulty then will be translating these new buildings into a lasting

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legacy for Scotland. Many studies have been done but there is little

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proof that hosting big events like the games translates into a lasting

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benefit. Fault of the evidence I have collected is clearly showing

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that the numbers of jobs that are produced are far smaller than what

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is projected, and the cost of getting those jobs into the system

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is astronomical. Why do we need a Games event to create jobs? We can

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create jobs in other ways that are much more sustainable and long-term

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than needing a Games event to trigger those things. It was a

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problem the organisers of the 2002 Commonwealth Games in Manchester

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also came up against. When Newsnight Scotland visited last

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year, the organisers said and of his legacy had failed to

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materialise. Legacy itself is hard to grasp and hard for people to get

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their head around and that needs as much attention before the event as

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developing the bricks and mortar. I think the legacy side of it

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probably needs as much attention as some of the physical infrastructure.

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But Glasgow's organisers have laid out what legacy they expect and it

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is not just about creating jobs. Their plans include making Glasgow

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healthier and they say the new facilities like the Velodrome will

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help them get more people involved in sport. The Ovett in the East End

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for the indoor sports arena, we are also building a five-a-side

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football pitches beside the Velodrome, we are building a cycle

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track to encourage people to have taster sessions of cycling. All of

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this makes it easier for us to manage a process of getting more

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people to come and participate in sport. But cannot go achieve what

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many before have failed to do? worried about legacy. No big event

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has had a sporting legacy and I think what happens with all major

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events is that people are inspired to take up the sport, but to keep

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people doing that sport, you have to have capacity. You increase

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demand but unless you increase capacity, public tracks, public

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places to play in - there never has been and never will be an increase

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in legacy. And then there is the question of who benefits? In

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Stratford, many local people have been moved out to make way for new

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Olympic developments. Because the property prices in Stafford

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increase, it means the people who might have lived there before, the

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children of the people who have worked there for generations cannot

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afford property there. Most to regenerate its see that as a good

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thing, but it is a downside if you are one of the local people who

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wanted to buy a little flat next to your mum or down your road next to

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friends. The benefits accrued to property developers and we

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generators and the wealthy and the privileged classes, and those on

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the receiving end of those kinds of And then there is the sporting

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stars of the future. Manchester's Commonwealth Velodrome is credited

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with helping Chris Hoy become that a medallist at the Olympics. All

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these games have done their job if the cash invested his turn to gold?

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I am joined by the sports journalist Doug Gillon who has

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covered 10 Olympics and from Edinburgh, professor of Joe

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Is there any evidence that these things do any good? The evidence is

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a marginal. In fact, out of 17 Olympic Games that were studied,

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only half delivered the tangible bricks-and-mortar infrastructure

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legacy. These are largely aspirational events and they raised

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the hopes and dreams and increase the pride of place that is felt by

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citizens in the community. That in itself is an important legacy,

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after all, determined legacy comes from the Latin which means a decree.

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So if we bequeath to future generations, greater hopes to the

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future of these games, that is important. But talk of economic

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benefits? They are usually short- term benefits and in these studies

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that have been conducted, the economic benefit is usually very

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short term. However, it is difficult to determine this because

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they have not been sufficient studies to look at cities over her

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I think we are being to tunnel vision and. I'm sure Professor Gold

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Platt could tell me a lot more about cities like Sydney and

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Barcelona, which have had ongoing economic benefits, but I do not

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think we should look at the Olympics simply in terms of

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creating jobs, or the Commonwealth Games. To suggest that there are no

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benefits. Delhi staged the Commonwealth Games and hundreds of

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thousands of people got far better water as a consequence, which is a

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long-term health benefit. But the counter to that is that it is a

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funny sort of world where the people of Delhi have to host the

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Commonwealth Games to get decent water. But the fact is they would

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not have had it otherwise. By whole of the economic benefits that will

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accrue to London, and I do not think there will be too much

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benefit for Scotland in that, but the benefits are far broader. You

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have to look at the potential health benefits, if governments and

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Scott -- Sport Scotland used the Commonwealth Games and the UK uses

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the Olympic Games properly, then you can have a massive legacy

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benefit. You can have tens or hundreds of thousands of kids who

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will be inspired to go to athletics clubs, swimming clubs, gymnastics

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clubs. If we are not planning now to have foundation level coaches in

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sports clubs around Scotland and Britain, we have already failed on

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the legacy. I just wonder, Joe Goldblatt, whether there is not...

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Obviously the Olympics and the Commonwealth is on a different

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scale, but when we talk about cost- benefit analysis I can see what you

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are saying brother obviously applies to the Olympics in London,

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they are spending something like �7 billion. Haven't Glasgow been

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slightly more clever? Apart from the velodrome they are not building

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any special new sites. They have -- they will not be left with massive

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new sites. They planned to spend �500 million, which is not that

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much more than the cost of the Scottish parliament building in

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Edinburgh. It is not a massive investment to get some of the

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things that Doug Gillon hopes you will get. Yes, but it is not just

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about treasure. The term legacy has to do with bequeathing future

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generations gifts from the current generation. One of the gifts will

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be the well-being that is developed, the sense of well-being, the sense

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of confidence and pride in the citizens. Glasgow 2014 us well as

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London 2012 should endeavour to followed the Sydney model. The

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President of the Olympic Committee in Sydney said this was the

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greatest games ever. That should be the mission in terms of delivery

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but they should also look at Manchester in terms of providing

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human generation. Achievable legacies before, during and most

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importantly after the Games. What is that last point you are trying

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to make? A in terms of human regeneration it has to do with

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education and long-term training and engagement in sport, not short-

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term but long-term. That requires, as your film regarding Manchester

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suggested, starting early, even before the venues officially opened

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to have programmes that encourage young people to be part of the

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Commonwealth Games mission and eventually the legacy. Yes, but

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again, is there any evidence that Mancunians do more sports because

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of the Commonwealth Games? A whole thrust has to be creating more

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foundation level coaches. In Sydney, kids were turning up at swimming

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clubs and getting turned away because there were not enough

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coaches. If you infuse kids, like in Wimbledon week, and have a

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properly structured programme, you have a chance of poking my kids

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into a lifetime indulgence in sport. In Manchester they obviously did

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not do that. If you have a government with a stated aim to

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increase support but they do not do that to appease teachers, you do

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not get out of the starting blocks. The converse would be to say, can't

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you spend money having more PE in schools and encouraging children to

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take on sports and not have a Commonwealth Games? You could use

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the Olympics in London to do that equally well as the Glasgow games.

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They need inspirational events to hook them in. The tennis courts lie

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unused but in Wimbledon everybody is playing tennis. During the Open,

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everybody is playing golf. But if you do not have a structured

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programme to make it fun and keep it going, you lose the benefits.

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What about the velodrome, Joe Goldblatt? Can you see it being

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used after the Games? Yes, but only if the impetus begins long before

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the door is opened. As a dog was suggesting, education has to be

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part of the strategy from the beginning. -- dog. We have to avoid

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the Sydney challenge, when the group the seekers sign be final

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words, though the carnival is over, I will love you till I die. We

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don't want to wait until the closing ceremony. We want the love

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and the engagement now. From your study of events, what do you think,

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in terms of public events, give you the most Banfield but, in terms of

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economic development or broader terms? -- the most bang for your

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buck. Health, education and public self- did -- public safety are

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extremely important that all of them would be lost without the

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opportunity to come together as a local, regional, national and

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global community. Only a massive hallmark event or even a local gala

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or carnival provides that kind of atmosphere. I think the return on

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investment, if you will, is priceless. We have to leave it

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there. Thank you both very much indeed.

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No other crime is more complex than break. The words of the former lord

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advocate, won, who made reform of the prosecution of rape among her

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key priorities. -- Elish Angiolini. With historically low correction

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rates, the National Sex Crimes Unit was set up. The outgoing head of

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the unit has been speaking to our home affairs correspondent.

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Reporting rape is always difficult. Victims are traumatised, possibly

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injured and fearful they will not be believed.

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Everything that happens here is in your control.

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Archway Glasgow is part of what has been called a revolution in the way

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that rape victims are treated. The revolution was started by the

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former lord advocate, born mack, stung by criticism that Scotland's

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rape conviction rate, 3 %, was below list in Europe. -- the former

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lord advocate, bon Ann. -- and Elish Angiolini.

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They understand the forensics, how much Seaman or DNA d'you need.

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Memory loss, effective drugs. All of these things, our knowledge is

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getting better and better. When you have a specialist unit, the

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knowledge stays there. This is the examination area where

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we would take the victim to have a forensic examination.

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Archway Glasgow is central to that. Victims seek medical care and

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undergo examination and police interview in the same caring

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environment. Prior to that, if you had been

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assaulted you might contact the police, you might get forensic care

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from a medical examiner, you would probably have to access a sick --

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separate medical service, such as your GP, to get careful infections

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or pregnancy risk. You might have to go to A&E for minor injuries or

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have counselling through another service. You would have to tell

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your story hundreds of times. If you come to us or a dedicated unit

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like us, you tell your story once. It is all joined up.

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It is critical to understand that people who say they have been

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subject to dreadful sexual assault are traumatised. I can't make a

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trial a better experience for them. They will always have to go back in

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the mind and talk about the terrible thing that has happened.

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But I can provide an environment that is respectful and dignified

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for them and supportive, to allow them, in the best way possible, to

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tell their stories. Lord Carr low-wage is undertaking a

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review for the Scottish government. He is looking at the current

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requirement for corroboration, where one piece of evidence

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supports another. It has been blamed for the low level of

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conviction in rape. The latest figures show a third of rape cases

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result in convictions and overall there is a 78 % conviction rate in

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all sexual offences. Deryck Fox says that co-operation is essential

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to secured good convictions. I do not want to go to bed

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wondering if the conviction was safe. The great thing about

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protections in our law, it might not be corroboration, it might be

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other kinds of protections, the great thing is that it means that

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nobody can go to jail on a pointed finger. It is not just being

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convicted. Appointed finger of sexual impropriety can so --

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destroy somebody's likelihood and reputation even if the case never

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gets to court. They can be subject to vilification and they have no

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anonymity. We take very seriously the responsibility we have before

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launching an allegation, prosecution or asking the jury to

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convict. The number of cases seen at the

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Archway has increased. More of those could turn into convictions.

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The Scottish Daily Mail - McGrath Peter face a newborn child. --

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Abdul Al Bassett McGrath Peter face. The Scotsman - Shetland man held

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for global cyber sabotage. I will be back tomorrow. Until then,

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For the Midlands it looks like a fine day and a lot sunnier across

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parts of eastern England compared to Wednesday. Across the south-west

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we might see some increase in cloud, maybe the odd spot of drizzle, but

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that will be it, really. You might have some brightness and across

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Wales there will be the odd spot of rain but some brightness possible.

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For Northern Ireland, after a wet night in some places, things

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brightening up across the bay. Temperatures not as high as they

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were but pleasant enough in the sunshine. Not as warm tomorrow, it

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will be tried both. Across many parts of the UK the sunshine should

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return. By Friday, plasm with light winds. Across the south, patchy

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