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Tonight on Newsnight Scotland: Did Alex Salmond offer to intervene

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with the British government in support of Rupert Murdoch's bid to

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take over BSkyB? The First Minister says he had no direct contact.

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Opposition parties are demanding he appear before Parliament to explain

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himself. So who's right? And Rangers still have no preferred

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bidder and now have hefty sanctions from the Scottish Football

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Association. Are matters lurching from bad to worse or is there an

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Good evening. The Leveson Inquiry is rapidly

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spreading its tentacles into unexpected places. Not only did

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Jeremy Hunt move to the centre of attention today, so did the First

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Minister Alex Salmond. Both James Murdoch in his testimony and News

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Corp emails released as part of the inquiry suggested Mr Salmond

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offered to support the Murdochs' proposed takeover of the whole of

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BSkyB. Mr Salmond says he never contacted Mr Hunt on the issue but

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that hasn't stopped the questions. Here's our political editor Brian

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Alex Salmond has repeatedly faced criticism either his claimed links

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with Rupert Murdoch. This controversy centres on the former

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bid of Mr Murdoch's News Corporation for BSkyB. The issue

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was raised today at the Leveson Inquiry into press ethics. Mr

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Murdoch's son, James, denied that the Culture Secretary had acted as

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a cheerleader for the bid within the UK Government. But he did agree

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that the company had been seeking support to voices. One of those,

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apparently, was the First Minister. He had offered to be supportive as

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a Scottish politician and leader. Now the responsibility had shifted

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to Mr Hunt, we were in an undertaking phase. Those economic

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arguments still stood. If you see previously, in other places, Mr

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Hunt's advisers suggest we should try to find allies, people who can

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advocate who are not just asked talking. Mr Salmond had already

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said he thought this might be a good transaction for Scotland.

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But Mr Murdoch's denied a question that the bid's support for Mr

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Salmond was in return for favourable coverage in the Scott

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this gun -- Scottish Sun. The favourable coverage means that

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Mr Salmond is more willing and more likely to want to call Mr Hunt,

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quote, whenever we need him to. If the insinuation is that there

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was any quid pro quo regarding a commercial agenda, I can tell you

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it is false. The inquiry was told of internal e-

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mails from Frederic Michel, News Corporation's director affairs, to

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James Murdoch. In 2010, he referred to economic development and said

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that Mr Salmond was very keen to also put these issues to Vince

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Cable, who opposed the BSkyB bid, and have a call with you tomorrow

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on the matter. He said his team would also brief the Scottish press

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on the importance of News Corporation for Scotland.

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When ninth November, he notes that Alex Salmond's a strong ally to put

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forward. In February 2011, he says, I met with Alex Salmond's adviser

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to date. He will call Mr Hunt whenever we need him to. He says

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the Sun is keen to back the SNP at the election. Separately, he as at

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the end that on the Sky bid, Mr Salmond will make himself available

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if consultation is launched. Tonight Mr Salmon's denied any

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wrongdoing. I met BSkyB and talked-about

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employment in Scotland, but there was never any quid pro quo. There

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was chat with in News International. They could not be any quid pro quo.

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The reality is that I never phoned or road to Jeremy Hunt -- all wrote

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to Jeremy Hunt. The News Corporation bid for BSkyB

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was abandoned in July last year. Mr Salmond says demands for a

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statement our stuff and nonsense and he will be available to answer

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questions at the regular Thursday session in Parliament. He is also

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willing to give evidence to the Leveson Inquiry.

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We asked the First Minister to appear tonight but he was

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unavailable. We then asked if anyone from the Scottish Government

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would like to appear, but again no- one was available. We then asked

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whether anyone from the SNP would like to take part, but again they

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were unable to do so. I'm joined from Edinburgh by the Liberal

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Democrat MSP Tavish Scott, and here with me is Labour's Jackie Baillie.

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You have seen what Alex Salmond had to say tonight. Do you accept it as

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an explanation? I accept he may not have written,

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he may not have called, but the question that remains to be

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answered is whether the offer was made in the first place. For me,

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this strikes at the very heart of how the SNP do business, this kind

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of suggestion of backroom deals and shady favours. It is distressing to

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say the least to find that our First Minister is using his office

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to offer commercial support for a BSkyB bid at the same time as there

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seems to be a suggestion in this e- mail that what we have his support

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from the Sun for the SNP prior to the Scottish elections. If you look

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at the timing of this, James Murdoch met with Alex Salmond days

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before the exchange of e-mails, a couple of months before the last

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Scottish Parliament elections. But for our First Minister to be

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prepared to intervene with Vince Cable, to intervene with Jeremy

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Hunt, too, as his adviser put it, call whenever he was needed to,

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suggests that to me that Alex Salmond was at the beck and call of

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Rupert Murdoch. Do you accept Alex Salmond's

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explanation of at -- explanation? I understand the Guardian is saying

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that there was a core set up to Jeremy Hunt's office, and we will

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only know when Mr Simon answers questions whether that is true. --

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Mr summoned. It does seem in one of the mouse

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that a core has been set up. That does not mean that one actually

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happened. I agree, but we don't know the

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answer to these questions. That is why we should here a statement

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tomorrow. Instead he should be answering these questions. He is

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going to appear before Lord Leveson himself. Surely he has got

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something to say to that. Had the QC not asked that question about Mr

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Salmond's lobbying on behalf of Rupert Murdoch today, none of us

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would be any wiser. I think we have done ourselves a big service.

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Parliament deserves a full explanation for Mr Salmond, who is

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apparently too busy to do that. Do you back that call from the Lib

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Dems, that Alex summer should appear tomorrow if?

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If he gives evidence under oath to Leveson Inquiry, we have had

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misleading statements from the First Minister before. In August

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the claim to have published all correspondence between herself and

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the Murdochs. There was no mention of this. That was his opportunity

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to come clean. He chose to keep that hidden.

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A spokesman for the Scottish government tonight seems to suggest

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that Alex Salmond's view is that there were no competition issues

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and the deal was important for Scotland because of jobs. You might

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not agree with that, but it is a legitimate point of the two have,

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isn't it? It is legitimate on jobs if that

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was the argument that we were actually to believe. But nobody in

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Scottish politics, nobody in Scotland, believes this is an

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argument about jobs. This is about Alex Salmond lobbying for Rupert

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Murdoch. His relationship with Rupert Murdoch, he had tea at his

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house and we find out from the mouse tonight that he offered to

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have dinner -- from the e-mails tonight that he offered to have

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dinner with James Murdoch. We don't know the true extent of salmon's

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relationship with the Murdoch family. But it goes on and on. It

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relates to politics. There's plenty of room in this.

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This is adviser talking to advisers. There's plenty of room for talking

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up your own game or simply misunderstanding. Somebody says, oh,

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of course I wish you well and they take that as an endorsement.

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There's no question of understanding here. You understand

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the blizzard between the First Minister and his senior special

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adviser. -- the relationship. There's no doubt in my mind that

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the offer here was commercial sport that requires support for the BSkyB

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I quote, he was taken, and this is Harrison, by our commitment to

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Scotland and Alex and an's desire to support us. It is a strong on

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which to put forward. -- Alex Salmond's desire.

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I was taken aback by that one. was shocked!

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I was trying to think who that might be. If I get called to give

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evidence, I will. Are you saying that you have no

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knowledge of any contact between the Lib Dems in Scotland and the

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Murdoch empire? I have no knowledge of that. I

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would be more than happy to show my diaries or appear before the

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inquiry. I wish Mr Salmond would. You lost in the entire period in

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government last time sucking up to the murders. -- you mock -- you lot

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spent the entire period in government last time.

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If Alex Salmond was guilty of simply making the same mistake,

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that would be one thing. I think he is going further. He is using the

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office of the First Minister basically to support a commercial

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bid for BSkyB exchange for party political advantage. I think he

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If it is a tall possible, the fortunes of Rangers Football Club

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have taken another turn southwards after the double authorities buying

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at the club and a post eight transfer ban. The manager and a

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McCoist claimed this could destroy the club, -- the manager Ally

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McCoist. As time goes on, the future of

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Rangers becomes increasingly more precarious. The deadline of

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announcing any bidder has come and gone twice. Now the SFA has banged

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the club won and and �60,000, -- find the club �160,000, and stopped

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them from getting a new player for a year. This stops them getting

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another buyer. You are now being told that even if you lose players

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in the summers, which you will, you are not able to invest or bring in

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new players even if you have funds in available. So you end up with a

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completely different organisation, heavily reliant on young players.

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If they cannot bite him new players who can compete in the highest

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level, it will not be a good investment. Today the

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administrators released a statement applying their frustration at this

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latest turn of events. They are appealing against the transfer ban

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and says the decision is extraordinary. They say it hinders

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rather than helps any chances of selling of this club as a viable

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business. Time is running out for Rangers, they say. They have asked

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the football authorities to be more pragmatic. The SFA's says it is

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deciding in accordance with its own rules, but the Rangers manager had

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this to say. This decision could kill our football club, simple as

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that. Make no mistake, the people have made a decision, they are not

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totally to blame, I have to tell you, for the death of our football

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club if it happens. But this particular decision could kill our

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Football Club. Time has already run out for the former chairman. Jake

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White has been banned for life from any involvement in Scottish

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football, and he has been given a fine of �200,000. But the fall-out

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could travel far wider than Ibrox. As one of Scotland's biggest clubs,

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Rangers' troubles could cost others dearly. There is another out come

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which is for the broader game of football in Scotland. It needs good

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clubs like Rangers, not only them but like them, to be doing well and

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be healthy. That brings in the TV contract, the gate result. That the

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-- the TV contract could just fall apart if the Rangers is not playing

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in the top flight. The clubs are rivals but they are collaborators

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in the game, they need each other to be healthy. Today's developments

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will inevitably mean delays in securing the club's future. Time

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that Rangers can ill-afford. Where are we now? Neil Patey is a

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football finance expert at Ernst and Young, and Tracey Campbell-Hynd

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is the founder and owner of TCH Law which specialises in debt recovery.

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These sanctions have been opposed by the SFA, we apparently have no

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progress did these bids. Where are we? We have had another major blow.

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This has added more uncertainty and a delay for the bidders who are

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considering what they what -- what they might want to play. Also a new

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bidder would want to restructure the club in the summer, to prevent

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the loss ranges can do, they cannot do that if they cannot buy new

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players to replace the expensive players. Are there any legal issues

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here? How long can you go on being in administration? It can be

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indefinitely. They have to renew it, but it can be for a very long

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period of time. Bearing in mind, they are there for the benefit of

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creditors. It is seeing or baking get back for the creditors. This is

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something, -- this is something, whether they are in a position as

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administrators going round to take bids for this club, and his siding

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he is a preferred bidder or not a preferred bidder. Because the club

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is owned by crack -- Craig White. That is what they are there to do.

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They cannot sell without his permission. They have to work

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towards doing something for the benefit of the creditors. If he

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does not agree, he has got the right to do that? Certainly from

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the point of view from the administrators, they have to work

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towards it, they have to see where the club is going forwards. The

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creditors have to be considered at all times. Effectively, the

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administrators are out there and getting the information in, they

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have to gather as much information as they camped and that is the only

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way the club is going to go forward one way or another. Whether it be

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liquidation or another thing, they need to get information. We have

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talked about this before, I want to make it clear. If they try to sell

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Rangers as a going concern, the creditors, I E Craig White, would

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have to agree, but they have a legal right to liquidate the club

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and he would have their say? From the point of view of a sea of the E,

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that is what it is. The creditors agree how the club is going to be

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taken forward. That is all creditors. Obviously Craig White is

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a large one, and that is the charge issue, it is about the secured

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creditors. There is a preference of payments that would come out from

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an administrator through the liquidation. Ordinary creditors are

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at the bottom end of it. They are at the bottom end of the pecking

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orders. But the tax office is also involved in that. It is up to the

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creditors whether it will be a liquidation. This tends to a point

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with the players. They all took wage cuts. I understood that was

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time-limited until the end of the season. If they are banned from

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transfers, and those players do not, because there cannot -- the club

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cannot pay them, they have the right to what -- walk out and they

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are the main assets of the club. That is allowed to happen. In what

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sense does that mean you are acting in the best interest of the

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creditors? There is a time line looming. That is why the

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administrators are very keen to try and proceed with a sale and getting

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up administration, which I do not think is possible, but as close to

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the date in June as possible. You then get into summer where you will

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have to let some of those players go. If you can't get a new owner

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coming in funding the rock -- the last the preferred to. Is

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depressing image. There is -- that is the looming image. There is this

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thing, who do the administrators work for? Football and Rangers in

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particular is -- it is politics with a small p, but that is not

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what the administrators should be bearing in mind. Their remit is the

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protection of the creditors, to try and gather as much of the assets of

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the club as possible. That has been forgotten in a lot of the

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speculation with regard to the administration as a whole. There

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are a lot of credit is out there, and a lot of creditors have this as

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a lifeline. There are a large amount of money is owed, taking

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away from the HR Owen c and b Craig White issues, there are ordinary

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creditors there who have to know what they need to do to get their

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money back. They have the made the formal claims. Just another

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technical point, these preferred bidders, is any of this meaning

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for? Why do you have to have a preferred bidder? What does that

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mean? It is not exclusivity which is a fine point, they are not

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committing to someone with a written agreement on that. They

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want a preferred bidder so they can move forward and get a commitment

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on how much they would be prepared to pay with as little or no

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conditions attached. One assumes that every bit going in, clause

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number one says we will take over this club only if you do not get

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landed with a �70 million bill or more from the tax authorities.

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have not seen the offer, but I think the offer will be for the

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company as it comes out of administration clean, so the debts

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are cleaned up by the compromise agreement. Be you think this club,

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from what you know of it, is headed for liquidation? The problem that

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we have is that every day there is a different development, it is very

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difficult to actually say that. What is your hunch? Difficult to

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call, it will come down to the position of the eight foreign air -

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