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As three soldiers died and another six are seriously injured in | :00:28. | :00:33. | |
Afghanistan, we looked at the dangers as Western troops prepare | :00:33. | :00:40. | |
to leave. Good evening. Today, the Commons Foreign Affairs Committee | :00:40. | :00:42. | |
warned that Scottish independence could damage the international | :00:42. | :00:46. | |
standing of the rest of the UK and raises all sorts of unanswered | :00:46. | :00:49. | |
questions about Scotland. It is the latest in a long series of reports | :00:49. | :00:51. | |
emanating from Westminster or Whitehall, questioning the | :00:51. | :00:53. | |
consequences of a yes vote in the referendum. The nationalists may | :00:53. | :00:56. | |
have their rebuttals ready but for now seem constantly on the | :00:56. | :00:59. | |
defensive. Concerns are already being voiced that they need to get | :00:59. | :01:07. | |
off the back foot and start making headlines themselves. Another day, | :01:07. | :01:15. | |
another report on the perceived dangers of Scottish independence. | :01:15. | :01:19. | |
Today, Westminster's foreign affairs committee said a yes vote | :01:19. | :01:25. | |
could damage the reputation of the rest of the UK. The report's | :01:25. | :01:30. | |
publication provoked the usual response. There are some really | :01:30. | :01:34. | |
difficult foreign policy issues here, which have not been subject | :01:34. | :01:42. | |
to the kind of evidence and support that those arguing for independence | :01:42. | :01:49. | |
have been obliged to provide. would be better to address | :01:49. | :01:55. | |
fundamental strengths as opposed to worrying about size. As the | :01:55. | :02:00. | |
Independent's campaign continues. There has been a series of reports | :02:00. | :02:03. | |
concerned that bad things might happen to Scotland if the country | :02:03. | :02:10. | |
goes it alone. There is one from the foreign affairs committee. It | :02:10. | :02:15. | |
is about shipyards. The same committee warned ridding Scotland | :02:15. | :02:20. | |
of Trident nuclear weapons could be difficult and expensive. The UK | :02:20. | :02:25. | |
government has also had a go - suggesting an independent Scotland | :02:25. | :02:34. | |
would have to negotiate its weight in the world. Does this report get | :02:34. | :02:40. | |
to the crux of the debate? Last month, a committee criticised both | :02:41. | :02:44. | |
Scottish and UK government for failing to set up the post | :02:44. | :02:50. | |
referendum landscape, whichever way the vote goes. Does this mean pro- | :02:50. | :02:56. | |
independence campaigners are always on the back foot? On this series of | :02:56. | :03:00. | |
issues, it is the latest issue. Opponents have been able to take | :03:00. | :03:06. | |
pot shots at them. What is going to happen? There is not a clear answer | :03:06. | :03:15. | |
- a policy position coming back. It is the caricature of the point. | :03:16. | :03:21. | |
They say it is about much more bank committee reports. The yes campaign | :03:21. | :03:27. | |
is based on Scotland knowing what it takes to be an independent | :03:27. | :03:31. | |
country. It makes Scott and a fairer place. That is what people | :03:31. | :03:38. | |
love talking about on the streets. -- it makes Scotland. It is in | :03:39. | :03:45. | |
community halls, on the doorstep. That is how we will win a campaign. | :03:45. | :03:48. | |
Does the campaign for the union feel it needs to change the | :03:48. | :03:54. | |
approach? I have a positive vision of where I would like Scotland to | :03:54. | :03:59. | |
be. It is part of the United Kingdom. That is the best option | :03:59. | :04:04. | |
for Scotland. That is what a would seek to retain. I think we have to | :04:04. | :04:09. | |
make sure that the Scottish government wants to make the big | :04:09. | :04:13. | |
change and answer the questions everyone else is asking. | :04:13. | :04:18. | |
Scottish Government has a ready published a few independents | :04:18. | :04:25. | |
insights but the Big Bang is coming later this shared. The opponents of | :04:25. | :04:31. | |
SMP well continue to ask questions they say are not being answered. -- | :04:31. | :04:35. | |
the SNP. I'm joined now from Edinburgh by the journalist and | :04:35. | :04:38. | |
commentator Lesley Riddoch and by Iain Macwhirter who writes for the | :04:38. | :04:48. | |
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Herald. This latest report that it is part of a long line. You do feel | :04:52. | :04:59. | |
it is too quiet. It does seem to be a back foot problem. Every time | :04:59. | :05:04. | |
something is said, it does make it stand up IQ are feeding the rumour | :05:04. | :05:13. | |
by commenting on air - you are feeling the concern. -- it like you | :05:13. | :05:19. | |
are feeding the rumour. If you think about that, it is a very high | :05:19. | :05:25. | |
threshold. It does not tell you how many people are sitting in the same | :05:25. | :05:31. | |
position may have been for a while, which is mulling it over. When it | :05:31. | :05:37. | |
is that ever going to come? I have spoken to many nationalists tonight. | :05:37. | :05:45. | |
They are very much praising Alexander the arch strategist. | :05:45. | :05:49. | |
There is a tight and small group around him, who must know what | :05:49. | :05:55. | |
they're doing. Beyond that, there is an enormous amount of activity | :05:55. | :06:03. | |
at local level. One week=112 event Sky including nine public meetings | :06:03. | :06:09. | |
with 100 people at each. That is not reaching the undecided group - | :06:09. | :06:15. | |
those who are constantly asked their opinions in some poor opinion | :06:16. | :06:25. | |
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polls. What do you think is going on? -- in some poor opinion polls. | :06:27. | :06:35. | |
The SNP wanted Independent he Germany. That seems to be a long | :06:35. | :06:42. | |
time ago. The danger for the SNP is the story is now gnats on the ramp | :06:42. | :06:49. | |
for pensions, NATO, you name it. - Bezunesh Bekele the nationalists. | :06:49. | :06:59. | |
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It is -- the story is now up nationalists on the run for | :07:02. | :07:07. | |
pensions, NATO, you name it. They cleared the decks for the | :07:07. | :07:16. | |
referendum campaign. The opposition is running all over the decks. Alex | :07:16. | :07:21. | |
Salmond is very relaxed about this coverage. He does not think that | :07:21. | :07:27. | |
newspapers have the same resonance, the same significance. They are a | :07:27. | :07:32. | |
shadow of their former selves. Attention is focused on television. | :07:32. | :07:37. | |
He has been speaking to the new director-general of the BBC and | :07:37. | :07:41. | |
senior people in commercial television to try to get the ground | :07:41. | :07:46. | |
rules fixed for the way in which the campaign will be handled. Then | :07:46. | :07:49. | |
there will be a white paper in November when all the answers will | :07:49. | :07:55. | |
be out. Everyone is expecting that Alex Salmond will win it. There is | :07:55. | :08:01. | |
a mood music thing here. The more you let it go the other way, the | :08:01. | :08:09. | |
more you will let it catch up. Gordon Brown found after 2007, when | :08:09. | :08:15. | |
coverage changed dramatically, he was the defensive thereafter. John | :08:15. | :08:20. | |
Major discovered after the back-to- basics episode in 1994, it was | :08:20. | :08:25. | |
difficult for him to get traction in the media. The iron law of the | :08:25. | :08:30. | |
battle is that you have to get your story out with him the first 24 | :08:30. | :08:35. | |
hours or the opposition story becomes conventional wisdom. | :08:35. | :08:39. | |
Something has gone badly wrong with the rebuttal energy the SMP used to | :08:39. | :08:45. | |
have. This is the Government. The SNP has the Scottish Government. | :08:45. | :08:55. | |
They command the front pages of the newspapers, bake only -- they own | :08:55. | :09:03. | |
the grid. Do you think there has been excessive caution? Take the | :09:03. | :09:08. | |
speech by George Osborne. He has said quite should Scotland vote for | :09:08. | :09:17. | |
independence, it would be unlikely to find a currency acceptable or | :09:17. | :09:23. | |
desirable. They come over as so desperate to have UK institutions | :09:23. | :09:29. | |
like sterling. Also the Bank of England. It is very easy for their | :09:29. | :09:36. | |
opponents. Do not vote for independence. That is true. Here we | :09:36. | :09:42. | |
are discussing there's any kind of curious and pondering Wade tonight. | :09:42. | :09:49. | |
-- discussing this in a kind of curious and pondering way tonight. | :09:49. | :09:56. | |
We need to find her what is going on. There is a slight uncertainty | :09:56. | :10:05. | |
as to who is leading this stance. I think, also... That is a problem as | :10:05. | :10:11. | |
well. To take the same example of currency, when the leader of the | :10:11. | :10:14. | |
yes campaign and the leader of the SNP are saying to different things | :10:14. | :10:20. | |
about the same issue and the SNP is trying to shock people Baker tapas | :10:20. | :10:23. | |
and when the head of the yes campaign is saying, that is the | :10:23. | :10:32. | |
last thing that will happen. There is a crossing of wires. If you were | :10:32. | :10:36. | |
to focus the same sort of critical energy on all members of the | :10:36. | :10:40. | |
British coalition at the moment, one of any policy but so were the, | :10:40. | :10:47. | |
you would find the same sort of dissonance. That is a difficult one | :10:47. | :10:54. | |
for the Yes camp. They both think they should be doing it. That is | :10:54. | :10:59. | |
not the real problem. If someone like George Osborne could come up | :10:59. | :11:07. | |
to Scotland and get a fair hearing, something is going seriously wrong. | :11:07. | :11:12. | |
Looking at this foreign affairs committee report! They're talking | :11:12. | :11:18. | |
about difficulties presented to the residual UK. The big problem for | :11:18. | :11:24. | |
the UK were to beat it would very likely lose its seat in the | :11:24. | :11:28. | |
Security Council of the United Nations and its status and position | :11:28. | :11:32. | |
in Europe. They have to take these things and turn it around. Exactly | :11:32. | :11:36. | |
the same with the pound. George Osborne cannot stop Scotland using | :11:36. | :11:41. | |
the pound if they want to use it. They can have a Scottish currency | :11:41. | :11:46. | |
against the pound as well. That is what countries like Denmark had | :11:46. | :11:56. | |
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been doing. Today, three soldiers from the Royal Regiment of Scotland | :12:00. | :12:09. | |
were killed in Helmand province. The deaths bring the number of service | :12:09. | :12:16. | |
personnel killed since operations began to 444. | :12:16. | :12:21. | |
At the soldiers base, flags were lowered for their comrades. 56 | :12:21. | :12:28. | |
soldiers left six weeks ago for a tool to Afghanistan. Tonight, they | :12:28. | :12:38. | |
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paid tribute to those who died. Samuel Flint from Blackpool was | :12:40. | :12:45. | |
described by his family as the life and soul of the party. He was from | :12:45. | :12:48. | |
the second Battalion the Royal Regiment of Scotland. Private Robert | :12:48. | :12:54. | |
Hetherington was 25, warning the United States, he was raised in | :12:54. | :13:00. | |
Scotland and was from a territorial Army Italian serving with two Scots. | :13:00. | :13:03. | |
The six wounded were taken to the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in | :13:04. | :13:08. | |
Birmingham under police escort this afternoon. The Prime Minister said | :13:08. | :13:11. | |
the deaths are a reminder of the high price Britain has paid to give | :13:11. | :13:16. | |
the country a chance of security in the future. It is important because | :13:16. | :13:21. | |
it is vital that the country does not become a haven for terrorists | :13:21. | :13:27. | |
began, terrorist that can threaten us in the UK. It is a reminder for | :13:27. | :13:34. | |
those families that have suffered. It has been said that the bomb was | :13:34. | :13:39. | |
aimed to inflict mass destruction. The men were travelling in a mast of | :13:39. | :13:49. | |
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armoured vehicle, regarded as one as the safest. -- one of the safest. | :13:49. | :13:52. | |
Against this kind of great protection that troops are offered, | :13:52. | :13:57. | |
the enemies build bigger and bigger bombs, so there is a constant battle | :13:57. | :14:04. | |
against protection and the attack against that protection. | :14:04. | :14:09. | |
battalion has another five months in their two to go. The Ministry of | :14:09. | :14:13. | |
Defence says this highlights the threat against British personnel as | :14:13. | :14:18. | |
they hand over security operations to the Afghan troops. NATO forces | :14:18. | :14:22. | |
are due to withdraw by the end of the year from the area, but before | :14:22. | :14:27. | |
then, there are concerns that insurgencies will increase attacks | :14:27. | :14:31. | |
in the hope of achieving a propaganda coup by claiming to have | :14:31. | :14:35. | |
chased Western soldiers from their country. | :14:35. | :14:40. | |
We are joined by the foreign editor of the Sunday Herald David Pratt, he | :14:40. | :14:45. | |
has visited Afghanistan since they were occupied by the Russians, the | :14:45. | :14:51. | |
Soviets as they were called them. Let's try to paint a picture of what | :14:51. | :14:55. | |
it is like in that area of Afghanistan, NATO troops | :14:55. | :14:59. | |
withdrawing, but this is a small area where the conflict is | :14:59. | :15:06. | |
happening. The conflict is shifting at the moment, we are entering the | :15:06. | :15:11. | |
spring period known as the fighting season in Afghanistan. The Taliban | :15:11. | :15:16. | |
has announced they will launch a spring offensive, but that is | :15:16. | :15:19. | |
misleading, because fighting continues across Afghanistan all | :15:19. | :15:23. | |
through the year, but the weather impacts on as dramatically. In | :15:23. | :15:29. | |
Helmand read this bomb strike has taken place, the weather is less of | :15:29. | :15:34. | |
an inhibiting factor as it is in the mountainous regions where the | :15:34. | :15:38. | |
insurgents rely on supply routes and logistical routes that can be closed | :15:38. | :15:43. | |
off by the winter weather. It is restricted and it is intense in | :15:43. | :15:48. | |
Helmand at the moment, but I suspect that we will see a shift of | :15:48. | :15:53. | |
battlefield dynamics here, because as the coalition draws down, the | :15:53. | :15:58. | |
Afghan army will take responsibility more and more and something like 80% | :15:58. | :16:03. | |
of the forward operating bases, these small, exposed foldable bases | :16:03. | :16:07. | |
that the coalition troops occupied before, these are now being dozed | :16:07. | :16:11. | |
down or handed over to the Afghan army, so there would be a shift up | :16:11. | :16:16. | |
into the east of the country away from Helmand read this happened. It | :16:16. | :16:19. | |
will come as no consolation to the families and loved ones of those | :16:19. | :16:25. | |
killed, it actually comes at a time when the Taliban are focusing | :16:25. | :16:28. | |
attention on their own Afghan National Army rather than coalition | :16:28. | :16:35. | |
forces. There are large areas in Afghanistan where there is no | :16:35. | :16:43. | |
conflict. Yes, in the north-west, there may be sporadic clashes and | :16:44. | :16:49. | |
the odd incident, but certainly roadside bombs, to put things in | :16:49. | :16:52. | |
live, three British soldiers were tragically killed yesterday, but in | :16:52. | :16:58. | |
average, Afghan soldiers die every day from roadside bombs appearing | :16:58. | :17:04. | |
across the country. Coming back to this, the forces, with our forces | :17:04. | :17:07. | |
and the rest of the NATO forces, they will be out of there and | :17:08. | :17:12. | |
handing over to the Afghan army, their hope was that they could | :17:12. | :17:18. | |
provide security to stop the Taliban coming back. Is there a risk of a | :17:18. | :17:24. | |
civil war if the conflict is confined only to a few places, or | :17:24. | :17:31. | |
could it is turned very nasty? Speaking to Afghans that I have 4/2 | :17:32. | :17:39. | |
decades, there is an underlying fear of a potential new Civil War. -- | :17:39. | :17:49. | |
that I have known for over two decades. In the 1990s when the was a | :17:49. | :17:54. | |
terrible civil war in Afghanistan, when it was on and ethnic basis | :17:54. | :18:00. | |
between different tribes and warlords, we have created | :18:00. | :18:02. | |
independent militias now in the countries which are allied to | :18:03. | :18:07. | |
certain warlords and operate semiautonomous Lee in this way. | :18:07. | :18:15. | |
There is a real danger that many of these militias will seek to protect | :18:15. | :18:21. | |
their own positions. We could see a war that is not along ethnic lines | :18:21. | :18:26. | |
but along lines of independent militias and warlords protecting | :18:26. | :18:30. | |
vast profits made through drugs, private security firms that we help | :18:30. | :18:37. | |
to kind of create. It is very difficult to believe that most of | :18:37. | :18:46. | |
the people that people that are in favour of the Taliban are | :18:46. | :18:50. | |
fundamentalist and would like a theocratic states, there is a bit of | :18:50. | :18:56. | |
a conflict. Is it not an indictment of Western policy that in 12 years | :18:56. | :18:59. | |
we have not negotiated with these people and the government in | :18:59. | :19:05. | |
Afghanistan has not sorted this out? Yes, there are more than one | :19:05. | :19:09. | |
Taliban, there is more than one Taliban, the Pakistan Taliban, the | :19:09. | :19:19. | |
Afghan Taliban, there is a Taliban closer to Al-Qaeda that operate on a | :19:19. | :19:24. | |
localised basis. As is being an indictment of our policy there, yes, | :19:24. | :19:29. | |
we have failed quite miserably. If we look at the statistics, | :19:29. | :19:33. | |
politicians constantly say that we have increased education and | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
infrastructure and whatever, all of this is questionable. We are leaving | :19:37. | :19:42. | |
Afghanistan in a terrible mess and there is a serial possibility of a | :19:42. | :19:47. | |
terrible war. -- serious possibility of a civil war. | :19:47. | :19:51. | |
That available at the front pages, and tributes paid to these three | :19:51. | :19:58. | |
soldiers killed in Afghanistan. In the Scottish Daily Mail, again, | :19:58. | :20:04. | |
pictures of the three soldiers and the headline, you can see it there. | :20:04. | :20:14. | |
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The Guardian, this is about the local elections. The daily | :20:15. | :20:18. |