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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to London. To the games of the 30th | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
Olympiad. Sheep and Shakespeare, Brunel and | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
Mr Bean, with humour, cliche, spectacle and surprise, the heart | 0:00:11 | 0:00:19 | |
in London has begun. (Bond music) | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
The Queen's greeted with massive applause as she, apparently, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:31 | |
parachutes into the stadium. And the Britain of self- | 0:00:31 | 0:00:36 | |
depprication, and even the cock-up, is paraded to the world. What did | 0:00:36 | 0:00:41 | |
it really tell us, and what did it say to the world. We have athletes | 0:00:41 | 0:00:51 | |
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and historians to try to make sense of it here. Good evening, good of | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
you to join us, we are more than half way through the opening | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
ceremony, we are offering here the first comment and conversation of | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
all we have seen tonight .7 sheep was a brave way to kick off -- 77 | 0:01:02 | 0:01:10 | |
sheep was a brave way to kick off, on landscape that looked, momently | 0:01:10 | 0:01:15 | |
by Hobbits, we have Shakespeare talked of by an engineer, sex | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
pistols, Mary Poppins, and a sense of anarchy always present and a | 0:01:19 | 0:01:24 | |
sense of humour, did it work, and what does it tell us about our | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
Britain, and the Britain we want to project to the world. We will ask | 0:01:29 | 0:01:34 | |
our panel what they make of it. Steve Smith first on what we think | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
so far. The Oscar-winning director kicked | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
off his Isles of Wonder spectacular with a film, a bird's eye view of | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
the green and pleasant land of Jerusalem, that Danny Boyle is | 0:01:45 | 0:01:53 | |
offering a worldwide audience, which could number a billion. | 0:01:54 | 0:02:00 | |
Who better to ring in the ceremony, in the stadium, than Britain's | 0:02:00 | 0:02:09 | |
newly-Laureled Tour de France champion, Bradley Wiggins. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:15 | |
Oh no, it's Wallander, not Scandinavian gloom, but this was | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
Kenneth Branagh in a different eulogise, dressed as the great | 0:02:19 | 0:02:27 | |
engineer, Brunel, and in Bradley Wiggins side burns. In dreaming the | 0:02:27 | 0:02:34 | |
clouds mere thought would open and show riches. The 19th century | 0:02:34 | 0:02:40 | |
industrialist then read from Shakespeare's Tempest. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:50 | |
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I cried to dream again. In a, frankly, pagan moment, drummers | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
summoned the shades of the country's manufacturing poor from | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
their slumbers beneath the green hill. A potentially ticklish piece | 0:03:00 | 0:03:09 | |
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of theatric, no-one wants to die on a grassy knoll. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:19 | |
But by now the Boyle production was warming to its theme. The white | 0:03:19 | 0:03:28 | |
heat of the Industrial Revolution. Glowing hoops of steel slowly | 0:03:28 | 0:03:34 | |
resolved themselves into a family geo. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:44 | |
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Mr Bond would like to see you. Not so long ago, and not so far | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
from where I'm sitting, taking liberties with the Queen on film | 0:03:58 | 0:04:04 | |
was a bad career move. Not so tonight for 007, Daniel Craig. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:12 | |
evening Mr Bond. Eat that, Helen Mirren. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:18 | |
Good evening, your majesty. Future historians may well decide | 0:04:18 | 0:04:23 | |
that this was an extraordinary shaft of daylight, let in on the | 0:04:23 | 0:04:32 | |
magic of royalty. Of course, this is not only Olympics year, but the | 0:04:32 | 0:04:42 | |
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Jubilee. And the 50th anniversary of James Bond at the cinema. In a | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
pinch-me moment, the Queen appeared to parachute into Stratford. But | 0:04:52 | 0:05:01 | |
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surely she qualifies for the zil lane! | 0:05:07 | 0:05:13 | |
Cut to the Queen wearing the same outfit, good continuity. There's | 0:05:13 | 0:05:23 | |
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If you had been watching the ceremony, and let's face, you were, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:42 | |
and probably still r then you would have seen Boyle all-singing, all- | 0:05:42 | 0:05:48 | |
dancing homage to the NHS a kind of bed pans and broomsticks. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
It seemed to owe less to the current state of the health service, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
and more to a sentimental view of this great institution. We think | 0:05:56 | 0:06:02 | |
this is what Carry On Nurse looked like, to the characters in Boyle's | 0:06:02 | 0:06:12 | |
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And, as promised, or threatened, the coming slew of gold, silver and | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
bronze, was inaugurated by old Golden Balls himself, the whole | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
thing was like a box of chocolates, as someone once said, something for | 0:06:47 | 0:06:54 | |
everyone, but one or two of the treats, ever so slightly tripped | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
via enamel. Our guests are here to give their | 0:06:58 | 0:07:03 | |
first reaction in just a moment. First O'Connell is a seasoned | 0:07:03 | 0:07:08 | |
veteran of international spectacle, although more of the Eurovision | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
variety. He joins us high above in the Olympic Park. Give us a flavour | 0:07:11 | 0:07:16 | |
of what it felt like there, Paddy? You heard that 1948 of the | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
"Austerity Games". I think this is about dexterity. I have been very | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
moved. I know we're meant to be cynical, but as I walked here, I | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
headed to the pub, because obviously there is a stadium, there | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
is a second stadium it's called people outside without tickets. And | 0:07:32 | 0:07:38 | |
I looked there, as it began. And I saw the countdown, and I saw the | 0:07:38 | 0:07:43 | |
people watching, trying to work out what we think of ourselves, so when | 0:07:43 | 0:07:49 | |
the Queen was then parachuted in, apparently, when Mr Bean played | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
Chariots of Fire, when the 7/7 victims were themselves some how | 0:07:53 | 0:07:58 | |
remembered, this crowd was very caught up at all times, trying to | 0:07:58 | 0:08:03 | |
work out. The world's watching us, but perhaps, what do we think of | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
ourselves. Extraordinary scenes outside the stadium as well as | 0:08:05 | 0:08:10 | |
within. You mentioned the cynicism, or the scepticism, did you see | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
people struggling with whether they were going to mock it, make fun of | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
it or embrace it. Was that something you felt in the pub? | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
that is what people said to me. There was a Frenchman behind me, he | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
was having a joke with me, he later accused me of spilling my beer on | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
him, but there was a sense of, well show us what you've got, is it just | 0:08:29 | 0:08:34 | |
cynicism, or is it a thousand years, is it the inventor of the internet. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:39 | |
Is it people, is it places, can you possibly punk your leader? You took | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
the Queen and you apparently showed her in a helicopter. We know the | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
Chinese couldn't do that, with all the Communist Party, but what we | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
don't know, I suppose, is whether we did have a single message, and | 0:08:49 | 0:08:54 | |
you have got lots of very bright people. But let me tell you, as I | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
walked to your Newsnight studio, there are people in the road | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
sharing their laptops with each other. They are gathering around, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
they want to see something, for goodness sake, at least it's not | 0:09:04 | 0:09:12 | |
Liberty, that's what I heard! -- LIBOR, that's what I heard. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
Let's get on to the question of message, what did we take away, how | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
did we do and what did it all mean? In the Newsnight living room, we | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
were told the best place to see it was from the living room. We have | 0:09:24 | 0:09:32 | |
the former Paralympic swimmer, and the singer song righter Mika, the | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
columnist, Grace Dent, and critic Laurie Penny, who thinks the whole | 0:09:35 | 0:09:41 | |
thing is a waste of money and Dan Jones. We will come to that in a | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
second, let's quick off with the message, you said you were watching | 0:09:46 | 0:09:52 | |
it and enjoying t you found it odd? I found it a little bewildering, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
historically was a mish-mash and jumble, everything mashed up | 0:09:55 | 0:10:02 | |
together. We had the Industrial Revolution, Shakespeare, the | 0:10:02 | 0:10:07 | |
Internet, everything thrown in. It struck me as a foreigner's eye view | 0:10:07 | 0:10:12 | |
of British history. To watch it as a native of these Isles felt very | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
confusing. Did you understand how the history was chosen. We started | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
in the green and pleasant land, presumably so we could then play | 0:10:19 | 0:10:24 | |
Jerusalem, and then there was this very selective look at history of | 0:10:24 | 0:10:30 | |
100 years? It was a choreographed history, certainly, It felt like | 0:10:30 | 0:10:38 | |
the greatest hits, Now That's What I Call History 57. I don't think | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
there was a narrative, I don't think there was a point in looking | 0:10:42 | 0:10:48 | |
for a serious narrative, it wasn't an exposition rather than that. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:53 | |
What about you? I loved it, I saw a narrative, I'm sorry to be dragged | 0:10:53 | 0:10:58 | |
away from it. I felt emotional from the moment I got here when the Red | 0:10:58 | 0:11:04 | |
Arrows went over the studio. I felt emotional seeing the Suffragettes | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
coming on and the time given to the NHS, the whole thing with the Queen | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
and James Bond, I've really enjoyed this. To say there wasn't a | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
narrative. It has been a slight mess at times, with people running | 0:11:15 | 0:11:22 | |
on and off, that is what we do in Britain. Sometimes it is a bit of a | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
chaos, but there is a message there. The message at the moment, for me, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
is just how kind the British people are. They have all went out and | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
done that for free. So many people have given their time. What do you | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
make of the spectacle, the choreography of what we saw. There | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
was that sort of dependance on video and live, was the balance | 0:11:41 | 0:11:46 | |
found? Actually, I personally loved it, I thought it was funny, full of | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
heart, I thought it was full of all the right things that it needed to | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
be. Especially after Beijing. I think that the videolinks were | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
probably the star, but they were so good because they were made | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
relevant, by all the theatre that happened inbetween. What's so good | 0:12:02 | 0:12:08 | |
about it was that actually it was anarchy but it was functional | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
anarchy. This mass, bizarrely, you had thousands of people on this set, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
but it felt more human than any other Olympics ceremony I have ever | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
seen. There was everyone, there was no stars showing up for the fact of | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
showing up, everyone that came had a part. James Bond, Mr Bean, the | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
Queen, everyone had a reason for being there. It took its time. I | 0:12:28 | 0:12:34 | |
think it was really charming. I think theatrically it was really | 0:12:34 | 0:12:39 | |
impressive, it was disarming. I wasn't prepared to enjoy it and | 0:12:39 | 0:12:46 | |
find it funny. I did. The Chinese did a spectacle that was clinical | 0:12:46 | 0:12:51 | |
and beautiful, and choreographed to the most minute precision, and you | 0:12:51 | 0:12:56 | |
know, they did all this beautiful stuff with orchestrated concrete | 0:12:56 | 0:13:01 | |
blocks, and we did it with NHS beds and a lot more heart. It was | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
completely a success. There were a lot of political messages coming | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
through, we saw the NHS, the Suffragettes, the immigration, what | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
was your take on that? I thought this was brilliant, actually, I | 0:13:11 | 0:13:16 | |
have to say, I was deeply surprised by it. I thought it was, what | 0:13:16 | 0:13:23 | |
surprised me was how dark it was, essentially. You did have at one | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
stage Voldemort coming on and attacking the NHS, it is not that | 0:13:27 | 0:13:32 | |
subtle. There was all the messaging at the start, the green and | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
pleasant land, the singing of Jerusalem, then the Industrial | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
Revolution, the dark and fiery, and the choosing of the Shakespeare | 0:13:38 | 0:13:43 | |
quote, that was very interesting. The bit that was read out was a | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
quote from Caliban, who is obviously the slave character in | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
The Tempest, it was one of the most perfect bits you could have chosen | 0:13:50 | 0:13:56 | |
to read out at the beginning of the Olympic ceremonies, "be not afraid | 0:13:56 | 0:14:01 | |
this Isle is full of noises, so when I woke I cried to dream | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
again.", I thought it was very deep, intellectual and dark. It was | 0:14:05 | 0:14:11 | |
brilliant fun. I was disappointed when the athletes came on. I was | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
like, oh no, it's sports. We are playing the middle bit, where it | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
was a sort of Mary Poppins, children jumping on the hospital | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
beds, and quite interesting, in a number of parts, I know, in London | 0:14:22 | 0:14:28 | |
what I see on the social websites, people started chanting NHS, it | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
became a political moment. Would you have seen this as a left-wing | 0:14:32 | 0:14:37 | |
message coming through? I think it has been done very cleverly. I | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
think the spectacle has been staged so that anybody can see what they | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
want to see in it. I think a lot of people were very heartened by the | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
inclusion of the NHS. This is something a lot of people are proud | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
of in Britain. When we have been having a lot of messaging about | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
British pride wha, Britain is about, suddenly we have -- and what | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
Britain is about, suddenly we have something nearly everyone is proud | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
of in Britain, the National Health Service, which is under attack at | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
the moment. Under financial pressure. It is kind of like it is | 0:15:07 | 0:15:12 | |
the biggest sociocultural thing to shout about. This health service is | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
a perfect global platform to shout about it in the way they did. I | 0:15:15 | 0:15:21 | |
liked that a lot. I will come to you Rachel, Laurie was saying she | 0:15:21 | 0:15:26 | |
was disappointed when the sporting bit came on. Oh yeah, this is about | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
sport, I forgot. There was even a sense when we saw the chariots of | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
fire, and Mr Bean pushing through, that it is a country that doesn't | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
want to take itself too seriously. Is that a message as a sportwoman | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
you want to take away right now? think it is good that they are | 0:15:42 | 0:15:48 | |
showing all different sides, but obvious low, as a sports person -- | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
obviously as a sports person we see the Olympics and the Paralympic as | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
the pinnacle of a person's career. You have worked very hard to get | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
there. To an athlete the opening ceremony isn't about comedy, and | 0:16:01 | 0:16:07 | |
fun, it is about realising that you have become an Olympic athlete, I | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
have become a Paralympic athlete, the moment where they walk out is | 0:16:11 | 0:16:16 | |
where it really hits you, wow this is what I have trained all that | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
time for. Would you liked to have seen a little bit more sparkle, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:24 | |
maybe even finesse, rather than that sort of fallback, if you like, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:29 | |
on to a very British trait of humour? I think it had the mix of | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
both. You had all the music, and you had a lot of sparkle within | 0:16:33 | 0:16:38 | |
that. That kind of brought out a lot of the atmosphere for the crowd | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
to really get behind, and hopefully start now supporting the athletes | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
and really get them going. Then the comedy was for the other people, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
sat at home, who maybe aren't into the sport. This opening ceremony | 0:16:49 | 0:16:54 | |
allowed everybody to get involved, because it had all the different | 0:16:54 | 0:17:00 | |
contrast. When it played for laughs, Grace, it was also playing to our | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
exports. Mr Bean is probably the easiest character to export around | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
the world, because you don't need language, right? There is no | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
denying how important Mr Bean is around the world. He there is no | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
denying that, we can't get away from that! I think it is just, but | 0:17:16 | 0:17:21 | |
it is true, he is everywhere you go, people know him. To me, I saw Rowan | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
Atkinson, I thought amazing, he is a bit of a national treasure sure. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:30 | |
When he started to do the Mr Bean bit it lost it for me, I was never | 0:17:30 | 0:17:37 | |
a fan. The crowd loved it. It lost it for you because? Personally | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
because, a little bit corny. I have never been the person to sit down | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
on a bank holiday and watch a Mr Bean special, there is a lot of | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
people in the audience that watch Mr Bean. The point is, this is | 0:17:48 | 0:17:53 | |
about showing the underdog as well, we are very good at helping losers, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:58 | |
and I'm wondering whether you know that is necessarily the message we | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
want to project now? I think there were lots of profoundly moving and | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
very funny moments. I thought it was an opening ceremony that hung | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
together. I didn't think there was a lot of sport in it, I was | 0:18:09 | 0:18:14 | |
surprised by that. Quite often with the opening ceremony of a sporting | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
event you would have a sporting motiff, but at the same time it is | 0:18:19 | 0:18:24 | |
bigger than sport, it is the greatest party on earth. I just | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
felt things were sort of jumbled, there were great bits you could | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
"cherrypick", I loved the bit about the NHS, that was Danny Boyle | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
sticking his neck out. That was important and historically the most | 0:18:36 | 0:18:41 | |
impressive moment in T we had a quick run through of green and | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
pleasant lands, the industrial heritage of East London. But that | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
NHS bit would have really resonated with a lot of people. Sticking his | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
neck out because he would have upset people with that? A lot of | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
people. He is also pointing out what an important part of British | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
history that has become. I don't think a lot of people would | 0:18:58 | 0:19:04 | |
necessarily always look to 1948 and think about it as history. The last | 0:19:05 | 0:19:11 | |
games were 1948, the establishment of the NHS. Was it, would you take | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
away a left-wing reading of British history. It wasn't a celebration of | 0:19:15 | 0:19:21 | |
Thatcherism, it wasn't, it was quite selective in the, if you like, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
its protest movements more than anything else? Absolutely, even the | 0:19:24 | 0:19:29 | |
Queen, her part of it was to play the site kick of Bond. I think | 0:19:29 | 0:19:35 | |
plaudits to Elizabeth II, what a sense of humour, and game approach | 0:19:35 | 0:19:42 | |
to T to take part in that. I think that was really the wow moment in | 0:19:42 | 0:19:47 | |
the way as well. It is sort of a left-wing approach, but I didn't | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
think it was overbearingly so, so much that it would have turned | 0:19:51 | 0:19:56 | |
people off. It was an inclusive ceremony. Inclusive was something, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
interestingly enough, was what Danny Boyle spoke about earlier. He | 0:19:58 | 0:20:03 | |
said he wanted an intimacy about it, and not just spectacle, what about | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
the music, Mika, there were a few areas where you thought you were | 0:20:07 | 0:20:12 | |
going to get a tune, and you got, dare I say it, a medley. Did that | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
jar for you, or did it work? actually think the music was quite | 0:20:17 | 0:20:22 | |
good, given the circumstance, often with Olympic ceremonies the music | 0:20:22 | 0:20:27 | |
can come across as extremely corny. The world were a lot of songs in | 0:20:27 | 0:20:32 | |
that mash-up, it was constantly changing. I think dizzy rascal | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
probably had the most sustained presence during that thing. It was | 0:20:35 | 0:20:45 | |
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subsequently a bit of a pay-off, he had a presence and made a point. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:53 | |
Was it too much? It was a little bit jukeboxy before the Dizzie | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
Rascal moment. The weakest part for me was the bit about the phone and | 0:20:56 | 0:21:01 | |
the woman. I thought that was corny, in many ways. I just thought it | 0:21:01 | 0:21:07 | |
wasn't very necessary. It was essentially a huge excuse for them | 0:21:07 | 0:21:17 | |
to bringen to Tim Berners-Lee. focus shifts and then you have | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
Emilie Sande singing with this extremely beautiful choreography in | 0:21:21 | 0:21:26 | |
the most simple form, that was eat motional climax of the piece. The | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
interesting about it is Danny Boyle approached this -- emotional climax | 0:21:31 | 0:21:36 | |
of the piece. The interesting thing is Danny Boyle approached it from a | 0:21:36 | 0:21:41 | |
cinematic man, he made statements that intertwined with each oh the | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
most important thing about what he does in his films and what he | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
achieved in the ceremony is it was disarming. We looked at the social | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
network stuff there, and the phone and the tweets and all the rest of | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
it. Do you understand, would you call that quintessentially British? | 0:21:55 | 0:22:02 | |
Yeah, I would. I would, sure, OK, fine, there were scenes in it, you | 0:22:02 | 0:22:08 | |
had Wayn, he's World cut into it. It is clash, it is patchwork, it is | 0:22:08 | 0:22:18 | |
these are the London Games they represent the UK, he did this | 0:22:18 | 0:22:25 | |
strange tripy, slightly stonery opening ceremony, by other people's | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
standards and other countries would be considered way too uncommercial, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
but fundamentally that is British. You had a lesbian kiss in there | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
from Brookside, little details of that, would that have happened | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
anywhere else in the world, I don't think so, personally. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
Grace? I was going to say I thought the phone part was possibly the | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
weakest bit. I loved the idea of celebrating youth and celebrating | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
everything we have achieved in music, and celebrating the way we | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
party, the way we have fun, I thought that was amazing. I don't | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
understand, the mobile phones with everybody communicating with each | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
other, that was let down slightly, because it looked like a mobile | 0:22:58 | 0:23:04 | |
phone advert, but a very bad one. From 15 years ago. Does Twitter | 0:23:04 | 0:23:09 | |
really look like that. Nowadays mobile phone companies spend so | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
much on adverts, suddenly it was a bit. It came together suddenly we | 0:23:14 | 0:23:19 | |
were all sitting watching and then Dizzie Rascal appeared, and it was | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
amazing. Hold those thought, we are going to cross back to Paddy again, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
because Paddy the ceremony is in full swing, I know Grace will | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
particularly want to know what she's been missing. Take us through | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
a few of the highlights of what we might not have seen, and any news | 0:23:34 | 0:23:42 | |
on the torch? Grace and Mik a -- Mikah will be horrified to know one | 0:23:42 | 0:23:47 | |
of the African teams came on to strains of the Pet Shop Boys. It | 0:23:47 | 0:23:52 | |
took everybody by surprise. There are reports from BBC London | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
colleagues that there have been some arrests of cyclists making a | 0:23:56 | 0:24:01 | |
peddling process, we don't know, many more details about that. One | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
Conservative MP on Twitter saying it was a bunch of old lefties, and | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
not enough about Shakespeare. I think it does emphasise that you do | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
need to have an argument about what kind of Britain we are, and all the | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
chattering classes can get very excited. But the whole point of | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
this ceremony is to hand over after seven years from an old bus in | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
Beijing to the faster, higher, stronger athletes, who have given | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
their life for this moment. In the end, the rest of us just shut up | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
and watch people performing at the peak of their life's performance. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
Paddy, thank you very much. Peak of your life's performance, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
you know what that feels like, Rachel. You have been part of these. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
It was very noticable how many young kids were in the whole | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
ceremony, the whole event, really, because that's the key part of the | 0:24:48 | 0:24:53 | |
legacy, isn't it? That is what we said, when we won the bid to host | 0:24:53 | 0:24:59 | |
the games, it was lot about legacy. To say that everyone who has taken | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
part in this event tonight are volunteering, to get young children | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
to volunteer, that is such a big thing. We have that throughout the | 0:25:06 | 0:25:11 | |
whole games, with the games makers as well. They are really doing what | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
they said and creating legacy. this is about the next Britain, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
what is that Britain, what does this ceremony tell us about our | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
country, do you think? I think it told us we are trying to work out | 0:25:22 | 0:25:28 | |
what we are. It is a process at the moment. You only have to look | 0:25:28 | 0:25:33 | |
around and raet read a newspaper, there is great sense -- and read a | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
newspaper, there is a great sense of uncertainty about the British | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
character and what it is and will be. That was reflected in the | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
ceremony, there was a confusion and jumble and no path. You were | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
agreeing with that, you were brought up in Lebanon? I represent | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
that. I was brought up in Lebanon, France and most of my time in | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
London. I am this patchwork, I speak two language, but then again | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
so do millions of people here, and identify themselves as a Londoner. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
I identify myself as not only a Londoner, but part of the UK. I | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
agree with you. I think it is definitely trying to figure out | 0:26:07 | 0:26:12 | |
what it is. That was represented. You said before that you were | 0:26:12 | 0:26:17 | |
surprised and impressed with it. You came to the Olympics with a lot | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
of angst and anger about the money being spent and what we were doing, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
in austerity times, right? That is not necessarily the case. I think | 0:26:25 | 0:26:32 | |
definitely that was worth the money. That was a fantastic show. I think | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
it illuminate a great deal about what Britain is saying about itself | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
at the moment, which is, we are not sure. This is a time of angst and | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
uncertainty, and there are lot of different stories to be told, it is | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
about people. That is what I found really, really interesting about | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
this show, is, despite the huge numbers of people involved, you | 0:26:48 | 0:26:53 | |
know, the camera came in tight on individual people, individual | 0:26:53 | 0:26:58 | |
stories, some of them quite corny, but loot of people's individual | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
stories in real life tend to be corny. Would you say it is about a | 0:27:02 | 0:27:08 | |
proud Britain? I thought there was a great deal of humility about T I | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
was impressed is there wasn't a celebrity overload. Watching the | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
torch go around the country, I saw Jennifer Saunders running with it | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
the other day, I thought, fine, isn't it this about ordinary people | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
having a chance to carry the torch. In the ceremony today there were | 0:27:24 | 0:27:29 | |
very few celebrities. They said all the nurses were actually nurses? | 0:27:29 | 0:27:35 | |
thought there was a sense of had you millity to the whole -- | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
humility thing. It was taking the piss out of itself, it had the | 0:27:39 | 0:27:46 | |
bravery and humility to take the pis out of itself -- piss out of | 0:27:46 | 0:27:51 | |
itself, even the Queen. foreigners and those watching go | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
away and say that is a Britain struggling with its self-confidence, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
is that a bad thing? Will they, I don't think they will. We weren't | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
struggling there. Going forward, though, one thing I have noticed | 0:28:02 | 0:28:07 | |
over the last few weeks, months, it is a Britain dragging back the idea | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
of the flag, dragging back the idea of being proud of being British, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
and for our own purposes, or nice and good people's purposes. We can | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
be proud to be British. And all of us, the whole multicultural society | 0:28:19 | 0:28:24 | |
here, doing it right now, here. is interesting what the flag has | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
now done, and the sense of Britishness has really become, I | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
don't know if you feel that? I was on the train down to London today, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:35 | |
and there was so many people coming in, flag leggings, and flags all | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
over them. And with the Jubilee as well this year, you just think, | 0:28:39 | 0:28:44 | |
people are going absolutely crazy for this new fashion of wearing the | 0:28:44 | 0:28:49 | |
flag and the GB. I'm sorry we have run out of time. You lot haven't, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:54 | |
come and join us in the Green Room, we will finish off the winddown, | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
that is all from Newsnight tonight. We leave you with a glimpse of how | 0:28:58 | 0:29:03 | |
far we have come since we last hosted a top-teir international | 0:29:03 | 0:29:10 | |
sporting tournament who can forget George, the wobbly dragon, a broken | 0:29:10 | 0:29:16 |