12/08/2013 Newsnight

British capitalists for discriminating against British

workers. The next it's praising them. Something got badly muddled

when the party decided to try to make some noise on immigration and

employment today. But behind the confusion has something gone badly

wrong in the work place? Why can't young British people compete for

jobs? They are taken up by foreigners who don't belong in this

country, but we are wrong if we say anything about it.

And then... We travel through Africa with

Clinton senior and junior and find a former president who has decided to

put his failure to prevent genocide in Rwanda behind him. Whatever guilt

I had was taken away when I took responsibility for not helping them.

And as Liverpool's most golden player rattles the golden chains

which have kept him at the club, what's happened to the idea of

loyalty? We'll discuss whether that There are few more enjoyable

spectacles in politics than watching people eat their own words. The

Shadow Immigration Minister, Chris Bryant, tried another tack today,

eating some of his words, and denying he'd ever planned to say

others. By some freak of telepathy or clairvoyancy, newspaper reports

had got him saying things he didn't believe about British employers and

their alleged predilection for giving jobs to foreigners. But was

he really onto something in the speech he didn't make? As Sancha

Berg reports, it came after accusations that Labour wasn't

making enough noise this summer. Over the last decade, the proportion

of foreign born workers in Britain has increased by over 50%. Many

migrant workers are in low skilled jobs. In many parts of the country

now from the ago call turl east to the former industrial north-west.

Surveys suggest for voters, immigration is a major concern.

The Conservatives have taken the initiative. Most recently with

controversial vans encouraging illegal migrants to leave. Coalition

policies have cut net migration, but mostly for those from outside the

European Union. Today, Labour outlined its own ideas. The Shadow

Immigration Minister, Chris Bryant briefed newspapers over the weekend.

Criticising Tesco and Next for hiring migrant workers. He accused

Next of bringing Polish workers to Yorkshire because they were cheaper

than the local workforce. Next denied that and the speech delivered

was very different. The special ifk accusation dropped in favour of a

general complaint. When agencies bring such a large number of workers

of a specific nationality, at a time when there are one million young

unemployed in Britain, it is right surely to ask why that is happening?

It is not illegal for agencies to target foreign workers, but is it

fair for them to be so exclusive? This is a former mining area. Nearly

a quarter of young people are out of work here. Many are angry that Next

brought in Polish workers and they complain that local young people had

no chance to get the jobs. It is not easy. It is very

difficult. You can't go to your Jobcentre. Most things are taken

through agencies with the big companies that we have in the

community mainly distribution. So it is not easy to get through to the

companies themselves. You can get through internally, but not

everybody is capable of doing that. You have to make contacts within the

work forces. Next said it had not been able to recruit enough local

people. Immigration is a tricky subject for the Labour Party. It

was, of course, the last Labour Government which decided to allow

Eastern Europeans to come and work freely here when their countries

joined the European Union nine years ago, the Government predicted only a

few thousand would come, but many hundreds of thousands made the

journey and they are still coming. Research by the chart erd staot

Chartered Institute for Personnel and Development suggests some

employees are -- employers are recruiting migrant workers. We have

seen a sharp increase in the number of EU workers. Many European

economies are struggling. They have high areas of youth unemployment, we

are seeing more applicants from the likes of Spain and Greece alongside

Poland, but employers perceive migrant workers as having greater

work ethic. More employers are asking mid-gropbt

workers to help them recruit staff. What many were telling us if they

value a of staff from Spain or Eastern Europe, they will offer a

financial incentive for the employees to recruit a friend or

relative. What that leads to is the development of a critical mass of

not just migrant workers, but the migrant workers from narrow

concentration of countries. Politicians might like to keep more

British jobs for British work workers. In practise, lawyers say

that's hard to do. Not without being discriminatory on the basis of

nationality which is not legal in the UK. So in terms of European

workers, they are entitled to work here and to live here. There isn't

very much the Government can do in terms of trying to make employers

hire British workers without running the risk they will be accused of

being discriminatory. Any change would need fundamental

reform and the agreement of all the other EU member states.

programme. He turned down our invitation. How can we ensure our

young people have the skills to compete in a global work face. With

us is Kevin Green and Kate Robinson which looks to promote the role of

young people in business. Is there a genuine problem here? I think that

there is. I think there are a lot of great unsaids. Comments I heard

today from some businesses, do young British people want the jobs on

offer? I think that business can take up the role of offering better

training. Kevin and I were discussing that businesses can make

job paths clearer. To make the jobs seem more desirable and I think

businesses are not making clear as Tesco and Next did not make clear

today what percentage of their workforce are from outside the

country and actually give the lie to what was being said about them and

clarity about the rhetoric... is a lot of opaqueness here, isn't

there? And there doesn't need to be. You accept that? There is a question

about the data and again in terms of Mr Bryant's speech today, there was

lots of rhetoric and no data and no evidence and the employers that

presented it were saying there was a small percentage without being

specific. Do you think that British employers have a moral

responsibility to employ British workers? I am not sure they do. They

have a moral responsibility to do the right thing for their showeders

and they operate in a community -- share Holders and they operate in a

community. Those people that work in the local community are customers as

well. Clearly, it is in their best interests to employ as many local

people as possible. Moral question, no? Just a practical

question. It is about being part of a

community and operating within that community. No, I think that self

interest now for business is about the moral responsibility and I think

many of the big British businesses see that. Yes, they have got a duty

to share Holders, but feel feel strongly they have a duty to their

country and their community. They are seeing a moral responsibility.

Kevin, there is a real sea change in business in the last couple of

years. They have got to function, operate,

within the communities they work in. If they can't find workers, they

advertise the jobs locally, for young people, for people from the

local community, they can't find people to do the jobs, clearly, they

have a right to fin the labour elsewhere. Isn't that part of

working across the EU we have open labour markets? Well, they are

required. They have a legal obligation, don't they? A legal

obligation to treat everybody the same.

Is there a problem with British young people now? That's what I was

alluding to earlier, there is some sweeping brush statements about that

that say some young British workers don't want jobs as shelf stackers,

yeah. There is a question over that. I don't want to make an assumption

about that, but there are questions raised about that. Some cousins from

the EU would take jobs that young Brits wouldn't take. So I think the

onus falls back on business to explain the value of those jobs.

Many of the big CEOs today were shelf stackers stackers in their

youth and to ask business to take on to itself what are the issues why

are young Brits not taking a the jobs? If it is the case, but as we

were saying earlier, let's have the numbers. I would has at a guess, but

I don't have as Kevin was saying, I don't have the exact data.

Is there something wrong with the education system then? I think there

is actually. We the aren't getting the message across, at the beginning

of your career, it is good to get employment. It is good to get work

experience on your CV. If you want to be a biochemist or a media

presenter whatever you want to be, early in your career getting work

experience is good news and the aspirations are too far in advance

of the practicalities of what's available in the labour market.

There is a big assumption being made and we are all making it and it is

that unemployment is by choice, that's effectively what each of us

is saying that young people are choosing not to do these jobs, is

that the case? I think there is some evidence it to -- evidence to

support that. There is recruiters up and down the UK, sometimes you have

got areas of high unemployment, and you are spies advertising jobs and

you can't get people in the local community, young people or older

people to take the jobs. Partly because it is a benefits

trap. OK, benefits. We are back to

benefits. What's to be done then? Are you saying cut benefits Fa you

have got to make work pay and the other thing is about aspirations. We

have got to sell the point that Kate was making, we have got to sell

employment, the opportunities to get the first foot on the ladder and see

any employment as a stepping stone to another job. We have got to be

positive and employers have an onus to be able to community wait with

our communities. Foreigners coming in and being

prepared to do the job for less money, and less security... Again

anecdotal. There is lots of employment

legislation. Most of the people who come in will be paid the same as a

UK worker. National minimum wage applies.

Well, you have heard the anecdotes. That means the employers are

breaking the rules. I don't believe many employers are breaking the

rules by bringing in workers who are paid less than UK workers.

What do you want to do? My concern is youth unemployment and we have

discussed that on your programme before. That's rising and that's a

concern. The issue is the so-called NEATs and my experience since the

World Economic Forum in January, every British CEO I speak to has

taken up the challenge of getting the NEATs into employment. We are

trying to make sure we get skills taught today for the jobs for

tomorrow. We're trying to bring them in. We're trying to change the way

we advertise lower paid jobs or the lower rungs, trying to package it

differently and I really feel strongly that British business has

taken up the challenge and we are making the difference.

It is not working. A lot of it is about SMEs. Small employer who

haven't taken the big message and if you think about the Government's

role, the youth contract, no employers are aware of the youth

contract which is the incentive to take on a young person. A great

scheme. A great idea, but no employer has heard of it. The work

programme which isn't really working on the grown. There are schemes, but

they are not really matching employers expectations with what the

skills of the young people. Clearly, there is a bit about Government

playing a more active role and education is going in the wrong

direction. The work experience has been taken out of the curriculum and

careers advice is appalling in our schools. We have got to do a lot

about change changing education. What's deadly? Careers advice in the

schools is not where it needs to be. There is a lot more that we can do

about that. My point about the shelf stacking job that becomes the CEO of

the company. That may sound like a myth, it is not. It is a proven

thing. There is a an issue that we can do more about in which what we

view our generation we call IT training. There is a lot more we can

do about that and do it faster. There are great initiatives like

Tech City. There is a lot going on in some schools particularly London

and it is needed throughout the country. There is a lot we can, but

what your point about earlier, it is not working. Yes, it is working. It

is a problem we are starting to address and those numbers are coming

down. We are making a difference. OK, thank you very much indeed.

An African reanywaysons. Reanywaysons you may perhaps, recall

the expression used by the then president of the United States, Bill

Clinton, to describe the future he hoped for that continent. , It was

15 years ago that he set off on the longest visit ever undertaken by a

serving President. His interest in Africa outlasted his presidency and

the Clinton Foundation has raised hundreds of millions of dollars for

numerous projects across Africa. He's just been back there and Komla

Dumor of BBC World News joined him to see if the Renaissance ever

happened. S, has been over ten years since he left office, but his

engagement in global affairs shows no sign of abating.

After leavering the White House, he established the Clint Clinton Global

Initiative. He is raising hundreds of millions of dollars from private

donors and corporations tos fight HIV and AIDS and stamp out malaria

and provide healthcare centres in communities across the world and

especially in Africa. But what role does fill philanthropy

play? At this event in Tanzania, President Clinton observed a

demonstration on how a microfinance project helps local business women.

It is backed by an international NGO in Barclays Bank. On paper, it works

well. Women get small loans. They start a business. They feed their

families. For all involved, it looks like a win, win situation and

frankly, it is great PR. It is through initiatives like this

that Bill Clinton think thinks that aid can be most effective. I hope

other people will embrace it including governments or I can go

out and do what I tried to do through the Global Initiative which

is to get other partners and we have a huge, collective impact.

But is this the best model or African development? The Continent

has made progress in recent years, GDP growth in places like Tanzania

and Ethiopia and Ghana has outstripped all of Europe's

lethargic economies. An hour outside the capital, work is set to start

that will transform these pristine beaches into one of the biggest

ports Africa has ever seen. It is fundeds by $10 billion from China.

We have beautiful shores. We lose the beauty of the place itself. The

people who are living here, but in another side, if you take on the

aspect of the economic, we need to have this park. We need it because

it is going to boost the economy of the country.

What is happening here is being replicated across the Continent.

China has overtaken America as Africa's biggest trading partner.

Clinton concedes in almost every area of engagement, America is

playing catch-up. I don't believe that we spend enough money on basic

infrastructure in our aid programme. I don't believe we spend enough

money on basic economic growth initiatives. So I won't argue that

the Chinese are going to get a lot of goodwill. I don't necessarily

think it is a bad thing for America if African countries appreciate

both. What we try to do to help their kids stay alive and what the

Chinese do to give them better infrastructure and I think that

we've got to try and create a future that we can share with the Chinese

and not one where everything has a zero sum game.

That sounds very optimistic. You know what real politics is and how

likely is that? More likely than you think. Look at the places where no

matter how grateful people were to China for their investment, if they

think they came in and employed too many Chinese workers and too few

local workers, if they think the working people weren't treated well,

if they think that the infrastructure was to prop up a

Government that didn't have support. In the end, countries have to make

their own future, if we are careful not to ask for too much and careful

not to aclike we are trying to shape too much.

Tie it it to Human Rights? No, I don't think that. It is a good think

we stand up from Human Rights. What have we learned from the experiments

from the Arab Spring? It is minority rights and individual rights, Human

Rights, shared decision making and so I think that we need to help

other countries and empower people around the world because it is the

right thing to do. There are many who feel that China

has advanced its interests in Africa because it is willing to ig near I

shall issues of transparency and -- issues of transparency and Rightst

Human Rights. Rwanda is our next destination and it is there the

Clint Clinton Record demands the BLeuptd was the most powerful man in

the -- Bill Clinton was the most powerful man in the world. There was

no intervention from America or anyone else.

Over a million people were slaughtered. Ple were slaughtered.

Isn't that sense of responsibility at the time it happened, you were

president that connects you or drives the position that you have?

Maybe. Maybe. Guilt?Not guilty because whatever guilt I had went

away when I took responsibility for not helping them. I remember in 2001

when I went back to Rwanda for the second time, a reporter was riding

in the streets with a taxi driver and he said, " Aren't you made that

Bill Clinton is here working on aid and all this stuff?" He said, " No,

I'm not." The reporter said, " Why?" He said" he didn't make us kill each

other. And then he said secondly, at least he said I'm sorry, nobody else

apologised. To, Rwanda is one big biggest

recipients of western aid and support from the Clinton Foundation,

but progress has been blighted because of allegations of Human

Rights abuses here and abroad. The president's Government has been

accused of funding rebel movements in the neighbouring Democratic

Republic of Congo. Rwanda denied any involvement across the border. It

has its defenders, among them former British Prime Minister, Tony Blair.

And Bill Clinton. I don't support the repression of journalists. I

don't think Human Rights should be violated in the Congo. But I suppose

I do make more allowances for a Government that has produced as much

progress as that one has and has been well organised and otherwise

had the rule of law so it is the way it is. There are very few situations

are perfect. As the foundation expands its

footprint and influence in Africa, another Clinton is taking a up a

bigger role. Did I do OK?Chelsea Clinton sits on the foundation's

board and at this project demonstrates how simple

interventions can provide clean water in poor communities. I think

the Met trick of success in your life really matters and as much as I

loved solving a problem and when I worked on Wall Street, seeing I was

right, an investment idea, I didn't ultimately want to denominate my

life in dollars, I wanted to denominate my life in the number of

people I could help and empower to lead their own lives.

You come from a very influential political din nast a, some would say

-- dynasty. Why make that choice? Right now, I very much feel called

to participate in the nonprofit sector. I also am grateful to live

in a city and a state and a country where I really believe in my elected

representatives. If one of those changed, and I thought I could make

more of a difference in a public sector capacity or if I no longer

lived in a city, in a State, in a country where I really believed in

both kind of the ethics and the competencies of my political leaders

then I would have to ask myself honestly whether or not that would

be a better path. But the politics has already

changed. Whereas the Clintons' are out to win heart and minds across

Africa, the United States has already opened up a new and more

dangerous phase of engagements with the Continent. Africa is one of the

major fronts in the battle against international terrorism.

We are in a very unstable period in the world. Particularly on the

Continent. Many of the experts I've spoken to, link this directly to

what happened in Libya. And the overthrow of Gaddafi. I heard

experts say that Libya has now become the primary source of funding

and for arms. For Al-Qaeda. Was it a mis mistake to overthrow Gaddafi in

that manner? He was overthrown in no small measure, but a popular

uprising that other countries supported. And gave them guns, gave

rebels arms? Yes, but it wasn't a mistake to help them overthrow him

without knowing what the outcome would be, I don't think so. Let's

not forget, Gaddafi was no saint. He did one or two things that he had no

business doing too. Isn't the instability we are seeing

now, the arms are flowing from Libya into those places? Yes, but there

were a lot of guns there that could be used and not just in Libya and

other places, I think here is the flip side, you asked me about Human

Rights and there is no question that the president can win a popular

election with an overwhelming vote and then we say we should have let a

proven Human Rights abuser and a man who blew up an aeroplane with a lot

of innocent kids on it, stay as the ruler of Libya because we can't

stand the chaos now that he has gone. It is a messy world we live

in. There are no guarantees. Syria, what should America do?

I think we are getting around to doing which is provide arms and

other support, do it through the channel that we believe is by far

the most truth worth worthy and hope for the best.

The Syrians have not asked us to put boots on the ground. It may or may

not work and there is no good choice there, but if Iran and Russia have

made a choice then they have unleashed the Hezbollah forces to

fight and that seems to have what turned the tide here. It is one of

those things where it is better to get caught trying.

Doing something is better than doing nothing? Not always, but in this

case, when this is said and done, if we can ask ourselves how will we

feel if Assad is replaced? How will we feel if he revales? In both

cases, given the facts on the ground and what has occurred and the United

States will feel better if we tried to create a constructive

alternative. In Africa, there are challenges that

remain which he feels need to be confronted. We had to feed seven

billion people in the world today. We are going to have to feed nine

billion by 2050. We have the global warming and climate change problems

and we have an enormous number of people who live in countries that

have lots of money, but can't feed themselves and their instinct is to

say, " We should mechanise agriculture and throw small farmers

off the land." If the population of the world continues to go up, people

will take more things out of the ground. The problem is there has

been too much corruption and who got to it what was done with the

revenues? And I'm only too happy to clean that up. I will go and give a

speech to this to Nigeria every year, but they are still going to

take the stuff out of the ground. We need to set-up systems that work

better to do that. I would happily spend a lot of the rest of my life

doing that because it is a huge threat if it is done wrong and a

huge opportunity if it is done right, but this farming thing I can

have a real impact on. Increasing their incomes two and three and four

and five-fold by doubling their yields more and cutting the cost of

production. We can change the world here. You are very much in your post

presidency, but inevitably people are still asking whether there is

still a bit of Washington still left in you or whether there is still one

more race to run and you know I have to ask that question. If I knew the

answer, I wouldn't tell you. You don't know? I don't know. Look,

I'm for whatever my life wants to do. I didn't know whether I had one

more race left in my last time. I thought the president was getting a

raw deal and I was able to help him. This is what my job is. I love this

job. I love doing this foundation work. President Clinton, I am going

to see you again. leave for Arsenal. He apparently

can't wait to get away and Arsenal are said to have offered �40 million

to prise him out of Liverpool's grasp and then Suarez is a man with

a reputation for biting more than the hand that feeds him. But his

behaviour does raise the question of what constitutes loyalty nowadays.

Time was that when you mentioned a Bobby Charlton or a Stanley

Matthews, a particular club came instantly to mind. Does loyalty

matter any more? We sent Jake Morris to Liverpool to gauge opinion there.

Back in the 70 it was all about the football. Now, it is about the

money. Probably Luis Suarez is business to

earn more money or go to a better team is the way he says it.

Football is about money these days. I guess, you have got to get used to

Ask football fans on Merseyside about loyalty and you will hear

about money. Liverpool aren't alone among Britain's big clubs in trying

to keep hold of a star player determined to depart irrespective of

their contract having years to run, but no saga has been as acrimonious

as that of Luis Suarez. It makes me feel disgraced. It is like you want

to apologise to the fans and the club and the players. It makes me

disgraced. Look what Liverpool has done. It is money, isn't it? I don't

want thim to go because he is one of the best strikers in Europe, but if

he wants to go and he doesn't want to play for the club. I would sooner

have somebody who is half as talented as him who wants to play

for the club and want to win things with the club than somebody who

doesn't want to. Luis Suarez is accused of disloyalty

to a club and to the supporters who stood by their player when

football's authorities found him guilty of racist abuse and then of

biting an opponent, but is such apparent disloyalty really that new?

No, it isn't. Footballers wanted to leave football clubs for years. What

tends to happen is footballers gravitate towards their level. The

best footballers have always historically ended up at the best

clubs. Should we be surprised? Has the game

offered its players any loyalty in return?

Harry brings him down and this time it is a penalty.

Ian St John was one of the corner stones of what Bill Shankly did at

Liverpool. He began to use St John less and less. He sold him. He moved

him on to the first team and stopped speaking to him as regularly and

this will always happen to footballers. With Luis Suarez

receiving standing ovations at training sessions from Liverpool

fans desperate to keep their star performerser can loyalty be evenly

distributed? We asked followers from Everton for their observations?

Amusing. You find it amusing? Very.Why?

fact they love him so much and the way he is treating them. He spat his

dummy out. My feeling is, he need - the club still want me. The fans are

still supporting me. He should be saying to himself reality check. I'm

staying where I am for the time being.

Auto Because they know they have got you over a barrel. Because they know

you are coming every Saturday, because they know they have you in

that position, they are able to put prices up. One of the reasons why

people grow resentful of footballers. I'm paying �50 a week

to watch you and you can't do X. Can this loyalty take the supporters

to breaking point? Could anything make a fan fall out of love with

football? No. Not at all. Maybe winning, but that depends.

With us now is the football writer and biographer of Sir Alex Ferguson,

Patrick Barclay, Sky Andrew, a football agent who has represented a

number of top international players, and former England player who was

himself an idol of the Kop in his day, John Barnes. Is loyalty dead?

Well, it depends on your interpretation of loyalty. If a

player while he is at that club gives 100%. But we have seen it

before and at Liverpool and Fernando Torres, if they believe a right move

comes along, they will move. What do you think? I do, I have moved with

the times on this. I agree with John's concept of portable loyalty.

I think it is the best we can expect these days and Luis Suarez certainly

while he has played, while he whats been every minute he is has been on

the pitch for Liverpool and of course, he is often absent from the

pitch due to cannibalism and various activities, but no, I mean, for

every minute he plays, he has given value for money. I kind of, I do

kind of believe that football in a sense isn't worth the kind of

loyalty that we are talking about. That we... Do you buy this idea that

players were more loyal to a particular club than they are now?

think there are more opportunities for players. I think you can only

define loyalty within the terms of a contract. A club may become more

successful than a player. We can't stop looking outside the terms of

the contracts because every player will stay at every club. A club

would stand by the player and vice versa.

Why are you saying, " I didn't understand it." The problem here I

think is that football is asking for this. I am not talking about fans. I

think there is an obligation on players. There is an obligation, I

don't mind badge kissing as we call it, you know, this sort of rather

fake loyalty that footballers give you in return for a big salary.

Beating your breast and you know, when you score a goal and so on. I

think that is OK, but the problem with football is the way it is

administered. At the moment there are four candidates for Footballer

of the Year, Robin van percent see, Wayne Rooney and low Luis Suarez and

Gareth Bale. Three of those four, wets don't know where they are going

to go. The fans have to take responsibility. What has happened?

How have the fans got to take responsibility? They have empowered

certain players over other players. We have put players on pedestals.

Once players start to believe they are better than their team-mates, we

have made them feel they are more important than their club. Some are

better. They are not better than their team-mates or their clubs. In

terms of what they feel, they cannot win a game by themselves. So...

What's going on with players, they believe that they can never win. If

they honour their contract and leave, they get stick. If they leave

whilst under contract they get stick. There is a belief amongst

players unless you become a bad player or don't perform, you are

going to get stick. I am sorry to be blunt about this,

but aren't you part of the problem? Well, some agents are part of the

problem, not me! The bottom line is this, there has to be a clear

message given to players. If you honour contract and you have got

value and you leave, no problem. That message has to go to the

players. If the players believe no matter what they do, they will get

criticised. The problem isn't Sky and descent

agents who do a descent job for their players. The football problem

is football gives this key part of the season, the first month of it,

to the agent profession and says, " You run football." It is all of

this, all of this business should have been done in the summer. We

should be, instead of talking about this, we should be talking about who

is going to win the Championship. This is what we talk about. The

mentality of the players. Why does Luis Suarez feel that he is more

important than his team-mates by saying I want to go to a better

club? Regardless of whether he scored 30 goals or not. How can we

blame a young man with a limited career expectancy? I see don't blame

him. I am talking about the way he is going about it. When we played, I

hate going back to my day, however, if the team didn't win or do well,

the big players would get the blame. They would say John Barnes didn't

play well and I would take responsibility. If a big player,

Luis Suarez, Torres, Rooney, when the team doesn't win, they don't

blame them. They win their team myths. Do I recall, weren't you at

Watford before you were at Liverpool? Yes. Brian Robson never

left Manchester United to go to Liverpool. It was accepted you were

going there to improve your game and you went with the good wishes of the

people. What you didn't do is what Luis Suarez is doing and I am not

saying he is in the wrong here, but what you didn't do is offer a

different cock-and-bull story every day! You didn't get big players

leaving to go to other clubs. You were honest about it. Can I get a

word in? The fans thought OK, fine, he wants to go and better himself.

Players have been advised by people sometimes with ulterior motives and

players can only react to the advice they are getting behind the scenes.

Often the fans don't know what's going on behind the scenes, all they

see is the headlines. Is this specific to English or

British football this? Is this a problem that exists across Europe?

What it is is that we have, we have the issue let's call it of a lot of

top foreign players coming to the Premier League and they don't have

the same affinity with football teams as the British players do. If

they come to this country and do well... Rooney and Bale understand

this surely. That's a small percentage of

players. Players will come here and think, " I can get a better club."

You can't can't that player have at same affinity.

You expect Rooney and Bale? Those situations are different to Luis

Suarez. In Europe, Italy and Germany, players have always left

top clubs to go to other clubs and the fans accept that. In England, we

like to feel we own our players. In Europe, it is accepted for big

players to go to other clubs. So therefore, what has to happen in

this country is that players have to come up with excuses why they want

to leave, restaurants, the wife can't settle. It is mainly to do

with money! You will You will accept it if a player doesn't sign a new

contract. What the fans don't like is players sign new contracts and

accept huge rises and say they want to leave. That adds Morag knee to

the fans and they are like, " You have signed a new contract you are

going to stay and." A year later they want to leave.

You imagine that a contract that ran for three or four years made the

club powerful, it makes the player powerful? The fact is if a

footballer is under contract, the club don't have to sell him if he

lass three or four years left. If a player has two years left, maybe he

has power, but not when he has three or four years left. Once the

transfer window window ends, he has to pull on his shirt.

The money supply is rocketing obscenely because of the medium in

which we are talking now. I wish somebody would find something else

to put on the TV. Ridiculous amounts of money are poured into football.

That produces, all of this money pouring in and there still aren't

enough good players to go around and therefore, the money is going up all

the time and... One constructive idea from you John Barnes? One year

contracts. Quickly, quickly? Fans have to stop

empowering players. Have one year contracts.

Fans have to give a clear message to players, honour your contracts.

The Financial Times has news that The Financial Times has news that

BlackBerry is being put up for sale. More and more people are trusting

the Tories on management of the economy. The Times has pictures of

the England cricket team and the same or a similar picture on the

front of the Daily Telegraph. And there is a nice picture of that nice

Mr Mugabe on the front of the Independent.

That's all for tonight. You may have seen that Norwegian Prime Minister

has taken to incognito taxi-driving, to try to find out what his people

are really thinking. He's not the only politician accused of getting

out of touch, of course. Maybe he's out of touch, of course. Maybe he's

The weather is staying changeable. We have got thicker cloud across

Northern Ireland, Wales and the Midlands throughout the day on

Tuesday. To the north of that, a mixture of sunshine and showers and

clouding over come the afternoon to the south. So for Northern Ireland,

perhaps better prospects for the afternoon in terms of seeing

sunshine. Although, there is sunshine for Scotland, we have to

cater for fairly light and well scattered showers with highs through

the Central Lowlands of 17 Celsius. Across Northern England, cloudy

throughout the afternoon. There will be some patchy and light rain moving

through the East Midlands and into East Anglia. Not much of the rain

reaching the South East corner, but after a sunny start, it will

abcloudier afternoon. Still breaks in the cloud for south-west England.

So sunshine to finish off the day on Tuesday with highs of 19 Celsius.

For Wales as well, things brightening up, but still perhaps a

few showers dotted around here and there. Looking at some cities

throughout the day on Tuesday and Wednesday. After sunshine for

Inverness and Edinburgh, Wednesday at the moment does look like it

could be cloudier and we are keeping some cloudy skies on Tuesday and

Wednesday further south. Along with the cloud across western areas on