13/09/2013 Newsnight


13/09/2013

With Kirsty Wark. Opinion polls say the Liberal Democrats face meltdown, Obama's internet man Harper Reed and London fashion week. Where were the Beatles 50 years and 16 days ago?


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to make his big pitch to the Lib Dem conference, stick with the

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coalition, and as importantly, stick with him. Ignore flirtations

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with Labour at the conference this week, the only conversation in

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Glasgow may be what kind of coalition we get after the election.

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Saving the environment, with heavy industry and GM crops. Bring it on

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says the deputy editor of the Economist.

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This man masterminded Barack Obama's on-line election campaign,

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has media power now gone from TV to Twitter. We will hear this...#

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Ahhhh. And oh the handbags and the glad

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rags, on the catwalk at London Fashion Week.

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Good evening Nick Clegg has a job of work to do at the party annual

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conference this weekend. The Liberal Democrats poll ratings are

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in the doldrums, one of his rising stars, Sara Tether, has thrown in

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the towel. According to the latest stars, Sara Tether, has thrown in

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Ipsos mori survey of the party supporters, almost half believe

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Nick Clegg is taking the party in the wrong direction. It has not

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been a summer of fun for Labour or Conservatives either. Assessing the

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conference to come. Soft centre? Something harder?

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Perhaps you prefer your politics a bit NUTier. Conference season

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normally has it all. It is where the parties compete to tempt voters.

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The start of this year's conferences mark exactly 600 days

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until the election. Sweet news for Nick Clegg, whose conference comes

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first, is he goes into the conference season perhaps the most

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secure out of all the party leaders, with the least to worry about from

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the coming few weeks. Friday the 13th didn't start so

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well for the Lib Dem leader, a call for him to step down from the

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former fresh spokesman Lord Oakeshott. He said the ratings were

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down at levels, which if you go back, were only seen by Mrs

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Thatcher shortly before she left and Michael Foot. The call gained

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no traction with Vince Cable, he disowned the comments and Nick

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Clegg was able to shrug them off. It is like foul weather in the

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autumn, it comes around regularly at this time of year, and as do

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remarks by Lord Oakeshott. He has said them before about previous

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leaders, you have people like that said them before about previous

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in politics. One of the reasons Nick Clegg sleeps well right now is

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there are no obvious contenders for their job. Had Chris Huhne been

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acquitted earlier in the year, he would have been the obvious answer

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to that question. Given what has happened with him. Actually there

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isn't an obvious alternative leader, in particular because a lot of the

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criticism levelled at Nick Clegg is by virtue of him being the leader

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of a small party in Government. That is why activists do understand

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if there was a new leader of the party they would be in exactly the

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same position and face the same criticisms. The Lib Dems have had a

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few sweet successes this year, defeating the Conservatives on

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boundary reform and childcare ratios went down very well with the

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base, as did killing off the Communications Data Bill. The

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budget announcement that the Lib Dem policy of a £10,000 tax-free

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allowance would be reached by 2014 was also seen as a victory for the

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party. That all came before the hugely important political news of

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better economic figures. The economy is starting to turn a

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corner because of the Lib Dems, without us showing remarkable unity

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and resolve over the last period, we wouldn't have produced, as we

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have done, over a million-and-a- half new jobs in the private sector.

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We wouldn't have provided the confidence to businesses to employ

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more people and investing in businesses and getting the economy

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growing again. Nick Clegg has secured his party leadership may be

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good news for him, does it matter if nobody going to vote for his

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party? At the moment they are bumping along at around about 11

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points in the polls, they have shed bumping along at around about 11

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a third Lib Dem members since 2010, however, both of the other party

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leaders have their problems too. At the moment Liberal Democrat MPs are

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more confident of holding on to their seats, therefore they are

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more confident of holding on to less jumpy and ease yr to lead. --

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easier to lead. Since Nick Clegg last addressed his

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party his position may have strengthened, but he still faces

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challenges next week, motions on Trident, the 50p tax rate, the

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spare room subsidy and tuition fee, all promise to be uncomfortable.

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With Britain ruled out of military action in Syria and the economy

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looking well, there is nothing it that trip the party into an

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existential fist fight. That means they can all concentrate their

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address in trying to push the other parties out of the picture. Now we

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speak to our political editor. Where do you think the sparks will

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fly at conference conference? There will be a few sparks, I was amazed

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that there was 600 days to the next election. There will be sparks at

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the conference, many more in the 600 days. The sparks will be quite,

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quite massive, but nothing compared to what we will see close to the

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election. We will get row over the economy. There is some who want

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some kind of Plan B, they always get this at Lib Dem conferences.

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Today we gather that Nick Clegg will put forward his own amendment

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and personalise it, and say if you defeat this you will defeat me. I

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would say that will be avert, there is also nuclear supsidies and a

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couple of others. You will hear a lot of rows coming out of Lib Dem

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conference, and it is fair to say, my sources tell me, at a very

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senior meeting of Conservative and Lib Dem ministers, they regularly

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meet for this thing called coalition r 2.0. The clue is in the

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name, ministers who would like the coalition to continue after the

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next election. The last meeting of that, just before the summer, was

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very rancour res, partly because of the story we broke on Newsnight

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that Nick Clegg said he wanted to unilaterally kill the childcare

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ideas. You had an unhappy coalition, such that Conservatives at the

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dinner said to their Lib Dem counterparts, we don't believe

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anything you say any more, we think in the future you will go to Labour.

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The Lib Dems had to remonstrate and say we won't and we have an open

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mind. The reason I tell this story and it is relevant this is now I

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gather from very good people, including friends of the Prime

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Minister, it is being patched up because of Syria. Syria has

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massively changed the mood between the two guys at the top. That is

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what made the coalition seem to get the two guys at the top. That is

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along better, simply over Syria? I think there is for David Cameron

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and Nick Clegg there has been a realise that Ed Miliband will do

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what he needs to do politically to get into the best spot. That

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clarifies what the next coalition negotiations might be like. So

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worth waiting for? Now in the history of the world, there have

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been five huge waves of ex tifpbgss, one wiped out dinosaurs and one

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wiped out 98% of the life on earth. Many think there is a next wave,

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caused by us. That is if you believe that economic growth and

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technologies like GM destroy biodiversity and ecosystems. Emma

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Duncan doesn't believe anything of the sort and believes the green

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lobby is wrong-headed, she is in the studio as is Craig Bennett, who

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disagrees. Here is Emma on why we and the world's creatures might not

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be going to hell in a four-wheel drive.

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Since man sharpened his first spear he has been killing off other

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species at an astonishing rate. All the world's continents used to have

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great beasts like Africa's elephants and Rhinos, in Britain we

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used to have giant deer with Antlers 12-feet wide. Most

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scientists believe these huge creatures got wiped out as people

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spread across the globe and killed them off. Progress and economic

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growth have allowed mankind to dominate the planet, to the point

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where we have squeezed out other species. Many environmentalists

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believe unless we slow growth down and adopt eco friendly technologies,

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we will condemn more species to extinction. I don't believe that is

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right. Right now we are at a crucial juncture for other species,

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the earth has seen five waves of destruction caused by geological

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events. Now even without climate change damage, scientists think man

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has pushed the world to the brink of a sixth great extinction. If you

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look at the underlying rate of current extinctions, I'm inclined

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to say we are right on the tipping point. The numbers of species going

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extinct annually could be as few as 200 but as many as well over 10,000.

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While it is true if there weren't seven billion on the planet, other

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species would be having a more comfortable time. The problem isn't

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growth, it is poverty. Look at a satellite map of the island of

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Hispaniola, the western side is Haiti, where people's average

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income is $771 a year. It has been striped bear, not surprising,

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people who can't afford fuel chop trees down. On the eastern side of

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the island is the Dominican Republic, where the average income

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is $5,800 a year, it has plenty of forest. Richer countries have

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better Government, and without a decent Government you can't have

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conservation work. Richer countries clean up their rivers and their air.

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Population growth, which is the biggest problem for other species,

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slows as countries get richer, and people start pressing their

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Governments for change. That is what happened in the west in the

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1960s with the formation of groups like Greenpeace, and WWF, that

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played a large part in the passage of laws, to clean up the

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played a large part in the passage environment and protect other

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species. You can see how things have

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improved in this countries as we have got richer. Our rivers, once

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little better than open sewer are getting cleaner all the time. You

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can see the wildlife coming back. 30 years ago there were otters in

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6% of the sites surveyed by the Environment Agency. In the most

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recent survey it had spread to 60%. And in China, which has made a huge

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mess of its environment, National Parks are being create at an

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astonishing pace. It set up the first one in 1982 and now has

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three-times the amount of land in National Park as America has.

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London Zoo is nearly 200 years old. The technological progresses has

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London Zoo is nearly 200 years old. revolutionised the work of

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conservationists in recent years. Conservation used to be done mostly

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by men in shorts with not much more than a pair of binoculars, here it

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has heavy duty technology at its disposelia. In Brazil

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environmentalists used NASA site light data to embarrass politicians

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environmentalists used NASA site into doing something about

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deforestation. That is one of the main reasons why deforestation in

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the Brazilian Amazon has fell down to 5,000 square metres last year.

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Technology has also had a huge impact on agriculture. Fertiliser,

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pesticides and genetically modified seeds have boosted farm yields. In

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America, for instance, corn production has increased five-fold

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over the past 60 years, while the area harvested has increased by

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only half. With demand for food expected to double by 2050, if we

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are to leave any land for other species, we have to make farming

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more intensive still. And use all the tools available to us. This is

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why a former anti-GM company parts company with those in the green

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movement, who don't like intensive ago culture, and would prefer we

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farmed organically. You really have to use twice as much land to

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produce the same amount of food and crops with organic. If the whole

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world was to turn organic it would mean essentially destroying all the

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rainforest to feed the number we have now. Intensive and

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conventional farming for all of the ills is a very efficient way of

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using land. The challenge now is to sustainably intensify to produce

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more food for a growing human population and hopefully a

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reduction in land area to be prevefrd for natural areas and eek

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toe-is is emit is. The why -- and ecosystems. The idea

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here my seem odd. We need to change our thinking about how best to look

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after other species, if we are going to avoid the sixth great

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extinction. Emma Duncan and Craig Bennett of Friends of the Earth

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joins me now. Emma is right in the developed world Governments are

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responsible, Governments create good policy which reduces, for

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example, pollution? I think we have seen obviously a strong growth of

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environmental movement in the seen obviously a strong growth of

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developed world over the last 40 years which has been really

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successful in encouraging Government to put in basic

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pollution controls. We haven't seen any real attempts to make sure that

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our consumption and lifestyles are sustainable and work within

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environmental limits. It is wrong to suggest that some how there is

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not a strong environmental movement in the developing world. Actually

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Friends of the Earth, we are part of the international group with

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groups in over 80 countries, most in developing countries.

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I think that is absolutely right and one of the great developments

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we are seeing. With economic growth you get the environment getting

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worse up to a certain point, and then you get things getting better

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as people get richer. One of the reasons that happens is people

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start minding about their environment, once they have

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satisfied their basic needs like food, shelter, education they start

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caring more about things on a wider basis.

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All growth is good, let's take the might of dairy farmers in this

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country. They are going to the wall every single week because cheap

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milk is brought in from Lithuania and Poland. Is that better for us,

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that milk is older and the carbon footprint of bringing it in and no

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sustainable dairy industry. Is that the kind of thing that reduces

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pollution? You have to look at it on a wider scale and look at what

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growth brings, it brings sewage systems, poor countries can't

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afford that. You build a sewage system you clean your rivers up,

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you start introducing regulation to make the air cleaner because people

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want cleaner air. Every age people get richer they want their

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environment cleaned up. I think it is a really old fashioned approach

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actually to suggest that all that matters is the quantity of growth.

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And this obsession with how much percentage points of growth we are

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talking about is very misleading. We need to be having a discussion

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not so much about the quantity of growth, but the quality of growth.

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If we left the studio and went and growth, but the quality of growth.

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smashed a few shop windows, it would add to GDP a tiny bit. It

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would not add to the quality of people's lives. We need to talk

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about the purpose of the economy, what is it for, how can it lead to

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real human progress and make life better on this planet. The

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scientists have changed their view from anti-GM to say they are good

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for the planet? A journalist.They feed more people using less

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territory? Again that's a very forced dichotomy. What we need to

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do is not think about a reductionist approach about whether

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this bit of land here is for agriculture and this bit of land

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for urban areas and this bit for something else. What wf learned

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over the last few decades is to get multiple uses out of the land. And

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not to have the agricultural deserts we have in East Anglia, we

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need to think about biodiversity living in areas where we use axe

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culture. If you are going to have the organic agriculture that

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Friends of the Earth want, you will plough up every piece of wild

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territory on the earth. Isn't the argument the consumption?

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We have actually got to change our lifestyle, given the fine night

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resources. There is such a thing as unsustainable growth? If you look

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at countries that don't have growth you find they destroy their

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environments much more quickly than those of you that have had growth

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and have the prosperity. Would you accept that? We have to have a

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sensible debate about what progress is in the 21st century. Do you

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accept be you say Friends of the Earth is operating, but do you

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accept in underdeveloped countries, for whatever reason, that pollution,

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problems with the environment are much greater than in developed

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countries? I think it is dangerous to generalise, at the end of the

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day if you look at one thing, carbon emissions we are worse in

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this country, developed countries, we are not taking it seriously

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enough to control those. You can focus on a few hours of pollution

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control, we are missing the big picture, in climate change it is

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the richer countries to blame far and away for climate change. Is

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carbon control a problem? We are not sure how, treem it will be, at

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the moment we haven't had any temperature increased for the last

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ten years. The range of estimates of what climate change might be

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have very, very large. What I do know if we want to decarbonise

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energy, without growth we won't get that. It is ridiculous to suggest

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that the environmental lobby is against new technology, we promote

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it all the time. Let's not have an ideolgical approach to suggest it

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is all good or all bad. We need a pragmatic approach, some are good

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and some bad and it depends on the context. Central London was

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swinging at the start of London Fashion Week, it has late low

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acquired edge with affects the fashion world's love of finer

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product dues, cashmere, silk and tweed. The arrival of a clutch of

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designers known all over the world, happening in le central London. I

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began not at the catwalk but outside an iconic British store.

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Who is your favourite British designer? Probably Matthew

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Williamson. Stella McCartney is good. Christopher Kane.At the

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moment Victoria Beckham. Young British designers and young

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British customers are very savvy, you might not be able to afford

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something from the catwalk collections but they make for the

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high street. Two collections for Topshop were a

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sell-out, the best collaboration Topshop had ever done and the

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customers came back for more. London Fashion Week is open for

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business, and Newsnight blagged a front row seat. While once London

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stood in the shadow of New York, Milan and Paris, it is now the big

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ticket. It is seen as such a creative place and people want to

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be part of it. Tom Ford, case in point, is based in London. It makes

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sense for people to be here. Over the next week, when the 58

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designers will show off their collections in front of the top

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journalist, bloggers and buyers, clothes are a serious business.

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With fashion contributing £21 billion to the economy. According

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to the British Fashion Council millions of orders will be placed

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over the next few days. Names like Richard Westley and Burberry will

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be there, as well as other brands reinventing themselves like Dax.

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The theme is Made in Britain, and the clamour is led by the younger

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designers. They manufacture on their doorstep and it is easier,

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some of the bigger brands are also looking at how they can do more

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manufacturing in the UK. Made in Britain, designed in Britain does

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sell. One of the freshest talents to combine British fabrics and

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sharp tailoring, is Christopher Raeburn. I watched him back stage

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as he revved up for the show. When I was studying I found there was

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already something of a loss of skills. In fact it was something

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that you turn it on the head and you realise it is an obligation as

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a young designer to continue, to really encourage and inspire

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manufacturing, the skills that go with it. Clearly my outfit wasn't

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quite up to scratch. This is a wool mac, this is from the autumn winter

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collection. It is pure pool and all the production for this is done in

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East London as well. We are hoping that will keep you nicely protected.

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The hall of packed and a Hughes sense of anticipation for

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Christopher Raeburn's first main show. The Business Minister was

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squashed in between the fashionistas in the front row, the

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clothes draped beautifully, the models immpossibly elegant and

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striking, well most of them. In less than 20 minutes it was all

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over. The fashion writers and buyers will decide if Christopher

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Raeburn will be next spring's must- have designer.

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It is amazing what you can do with just 140 characters. Last night in

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a single tweet Twitter announced the intention to float on the US

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stock market. The global media frenzy that followed is the

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clearest possible testament to the unique power of the medium. One man

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who understands that power more than most is Harper Reid, tech

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whizz and self-proclaimed cool buy, and the guy who ran the on-line

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campaign for Barack Obama's re- election last year. Are you first

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in the queue for Twitter shares? Yeah, maybe, it is such an

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interesting company because it has powered so many revolutions, real

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ref lugs and it has changed so many industries -- revolutions and it

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has changed so many industries. You would want a return on your money?

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How will they monetise, it there is talk of advertising on Twitter,

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will it not irritate people. I wonder how they will do it, they

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produced a company in the US, it is a large advertising network for

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mobile phones, maybe the advertising is just not on Twitter,

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but on the general internet or. Of. We will have to wait a see a bit.

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How do you think Twitter will change and how do you think the way

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people use Twitter will change? I don't think Twitter will change

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much. I do think people will be they might react interestingly if

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Twitter does drastic changes. But Twitter has had had a long time to

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mess this up and they haven't. I Twitter has had had a long time to

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don't know why an IPO would be a trigger to cause a problem. So

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actually they would not want to upset their customers as well as

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shareholders. Exactly.So you obviously have been the person in a

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sense who has revolutionised, in American politics, at least, the

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idea of using the on-line media. You had a team, but you were the

:25:49.:25:51.

guy? I had a team and some really You had a team, but you were the

:25:51.:25:56.

great co-workers that really helped out. You had people from Google and

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Craig's list, people from everywhere helping you? That whole

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pour of what is out there, mining data on people. Do you think

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essentially the Internet is not a place for privacy. The reason I say

:26:10.:26:20.

is I wonder looking at the revealing of certain things lately,

:26:21.:26:27.

Governments all over the world mine our data and others data? It is a

:26:27.:26:34.

hard thing to answer in a way I think I could go on for hours. It

:26:34.:26:40.

is a nuanced situation, on the one hand the goal is to stop terrorism,

:26:40.:26:46.

on the otherhand, I was the guy that had "internet freedom" written

:26:46.:26:50.

on my hand in a photocall. I wonder how we can have both of these

:26:50.:26:57.

things and if we can achieve both of them. With that said the

:26:57.:27:02.

Internet is challenging privacy as we know it, I'm 35 and I think in

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regards to internet privacy I'm old. When you look at 25-year-olds they

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use it so differently. When you look at 20 yearled olds they use it

:27:12.:27:17.

different from 25-year-olds, the younger you go, people who grew up

:27:17.:27:21.

with the interin the, their definition of privacy is completely

:27:21.:27:25.

different. Is it good or bad?I don't think we can make a judgment

:27:25.:27:30.

yet, any judgment we would make is using our pasts and lives and

:27:30.:27:34.

understanding that we grew up with to make the judgment. In that case

:27:34.:27:42.

isn't there a universal moral code, but more a gep rationale moral

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code? It is a paradime shift, we will talk -- Dara dime shift, we

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code? It is a paradime shift, we will talk about data and it should

:27:52.:27:57.

be secure, another person says the same word and means something

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different. I don't want to conflate it with NMA thing. Any talk about

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privacy you have toed accept that young people use the Internet --

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you have to accept that young people use the Internet in a

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different way. If you were working for Barack Obama, the on-line

:28:16.:28:20.

campaign, would some decent on-line campaign have made a difference to

:28:20.:28:24.

him had he been running up to the decision of whether or not to go

:28:24.:28:30.

for military intervention. Would he have been so out of step from the

:28:30.:28:35.

American people if you used your data mining? One thing for

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Governments, especially those working in social media and use it

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to listen. I know the White House really puts the ear to the ground

:28:45.:28:48.

and lisenceps to what people are saying. There is a lot of

:28:48.:28:52.

notifications, I got a notification from Twitter and the White House

:28:52.:28:55.

that the President of going to be doing a live address a couple of

:28:55.:28:59.

weeks ago. That is great, but how are they listening? How do the

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Governments around the world listen? That is the really

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interesting piece. Will you be back in for whatever candidates they

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are? They know my number and they should call, we will see how it

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goes, take some naps, see my wife, that might be fun.

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Last night we set you the challenge of cracking a secret code at the

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end of the programme. Well done to Danny for being the first to tweet

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with the correct answer. We extend the uncoded message to

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