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. A 15-year-old who was adamant she

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did not want an MMR vaccine has been ordered by a high court judge to

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have the injection despite the objection of her mother, but in

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accordance with the wishes of her father. I'll be speaking to the

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mother's lawyer, about the judgement and the rights of a teenager to

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refuse treatment. More than 50 people are dead after a plying rant

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ship has sunk. This time 70 miles from the Italian coast.

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The flagship Muslim Free School has been given three weeks to get its

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act together or be shut down. We have an exclusive interview with the

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governors, defending their decision to make a non-muslim staff wear the

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Hijab. The female air hostesses wear a different dress to the male ones.

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That is a choice and a decision made by the business.

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And a BBC investigation in China, where prostitution is illegal,

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reveals the trade is operating within well known Western branded

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hotels. Good evening.

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The MMR vaccine has proved to be a dilemma for many parents. It

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provides protection against measles, mumps and rubella, all potentially

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fatal illnesses, but after the now discredited research which claimed

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to show a link to autism many parents did not use it. Now, over a

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decade later, what happens when one parent wants their children to be

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vaccinated and the other doesn't? The case we report on tonight

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involved two divorced parents and two children, one 15 and the other

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11. The judge upheld the wishes of the father and ordered the two

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children to be vaccinated. The deadline for that was today. Here's

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Sancha Berg. Can a 15 radio-year-old be forced to have a vaccination

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against their wishes in one of their parent's insists? Last month the

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High Court judge ordered that a 15-year-old girl and her 11-year-old

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sister, had to have the MMR jab by the end of today, even though they

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said they did not want it. The elder said she would be upset if that was

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in her body. The mother did not want them vaccinated either but the

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parents were divorced, the father brought the case. Andrew Wakefield's

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research, published in 1988 that triggered a panic about MMR and a

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possible link with autism. The mother did not want the girls

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vaccinated. The father agreed. Andrew Wakefield's work,

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discredited, had a significant national impact. As the yellow bars

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show, the vaccination rates dropped. They are rising but older children

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are vulnerable. Cases of measles, mumps, rubella have been growing.

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In Wales people have been queueing outside of clinics, desperate to get

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their children vaccinated after measles broke out there. This

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prompted the girl's father to change his mind. He was worried there could

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be serious consequences of the illnesses. He wanted the children

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vaccinated. The judge had to consider the

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childrens's concerns and their understanding of the issues. They

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were worried about the ingredients in the vaccine but less worried

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about the ingredients in medicine they may have to take if they

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contracted a disease. One said with the measles you just get a rash. The

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court-appointed Guardian was worried they were influenced by their

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mother, in turn, the mother gave evidence she was worried about the

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psychological impact on the children, especially the elder one,

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who had been counselled for anxiety. Parents have a choice to do what

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they believe. I feel that both children have grown up in a frame of

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mind that they were settled in and supported in the same outlook and

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forced now to take a different view without more positive reassurance

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and the recording of ingredients of the vaccine is unsatisfactory. They

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have a right to be informed. The older child, the more seriously

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her views are taken and more carefully she is listened to by the

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court. In the case, the judge decided that the views expressed by

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the 15-year-old were not suf shenly balanced or did not give weight to

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the positive side of the immunisation.

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I am aware that this is against the girl's shes but that is not the only

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factor. The court has to consider their level of understanding of the

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issues involved. And what factors influenced their views. I am not

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convinced there is a balance of understanding of them by the issues

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involved. The medical debate is settled, the

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lawyers say. This is the third time that the High Court has ruled that a

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child should have the MMR vaccine against parents' wishes it is

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child should have the MMR vaccine unusual for the children to have

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such strong objections too, the judge acknowledged it will have an

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impact on the family. Sancha Berg.

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Joining us now is the mother's solicitor, Philippa Dolan.

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Latest reports say at least 50 people

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What made the mother so sure she was acting well? The mother was sure

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that this was a view that the family had reached since the children were

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young. That it was the father who changed his mind recently. In the

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meantime the children have been brought up with a particular point

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of view, which is that if you are healthy, you eat properly, you have

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a good immune system, then it is not necessary to be vaccinated and that

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there are side effects that can be harmful.

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But presumably, maybe not, but one of the thing's in the father's mind

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is not just about the children but the grandchildren, rubella in

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pregnancy is devastating? Yes. They are only 15 and 11 at the moment. It

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would be the mother's position. She would say that the family has always

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discussed things with the children. They have been treated in a way that

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their views are respected. They have been informed. They have had family

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discussions. So in that sense that supports the fact that the children

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can make that decision when they are this age.

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Or when each reach a majority age. What do you think is the

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significance of the decision? We will have to see. I was very

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surprised at it. I was very surprised that a 15-year-old, who,

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15-year-olds are allowed to make all sorts of decisions, legally, and not

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having an MMR vaccination, is, I mean, this may be controversial but

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it is not life-threatening in the south-east of England in 2013.

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I know of course that you kept your distance from the daughter, you were

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acting for the mother, but firstly, I want to ask you the deadline for

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the vaccination was today, have the girls been vaccinated? No. There are

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practical difficulties in enforcing the order.

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That is at the moment an ongoing issue.

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If there are practical difficulties, they were not foreseen by the judge,

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then? I don't know. I would be surprised if they were

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not foreseen. So what happens now, then? I can't

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really say. The judge ordered the girls to be vaccinated by today, the

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girls have not been vaccinated. That has implications for the mother, who

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presumably has the responsibilities for the children as well as the

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father? There are no legal, at the moment, there is not a legal

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deadline that is a serious issue. This is John going and the parents

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are in discussion -- this is ongoing and the parents are in

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discussion. It is hoped without further litigation.

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It must have impact on the girls, especially the 15-year-old? It has

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had an impact on both of them. In the judgment it was said that they

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should not be treated separately. It was recognised that they both have

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a, they are in a situation where they are independent thinking

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people. The 11-year-old also feels strongly about it.

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Thank you very much indeed. The latest reports say at least 50

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people have been killed when their migrant boat capsized 70 miles off

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the coast of Italy, in a terrible echo of the 300 close to shore of

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Lampedusa a little more than a week ago. Matthew Pryce joins us now.

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Matthew, is the rescue effort continuing? It is, yes. Just about

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five minutes ago another helicopter flew across the incident itself. It

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is about 60 miles to the south of here. The helicopters have been

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bringing in the injured. Some of them who have been rescued from the

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sea and one woman from the airport working there told us that they are

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also bringing in some of those who have died.

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It is looking like this is not a tragedy on the scale of the disaster

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eight days ago off the coast of lamp deucea, today we were told that 339

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bodies had been found, but in terms of this one it is about 27, 28. It

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may go up to about 50, some Italian news outlet's are reporting, but the

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vast number, the larger number of people on board the vessel, 200, it

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looks like, they have been rescued. Part of the reason is that the

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Italian Navy was close to the area where the boat capsized and sank.

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They had also increased patrols as a direct result of last week's boat

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capsizing. Matthew, thank you very much.

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One of the the Government's flagship Free schools is on the verge of

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having its funding pulled, which means it faces closure. No small

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embarrassment for the Education Secretary Michael Gove. Al-Madinah

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in Derby, which has been open for little over a year, has what it's

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website calls a "strong Muslim ethos", but three separate

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investigations say the school has discriminated towards female staff,

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delivered a poor standard of education,and failed to ensure the

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safety of children. The governors who run the school have stayed

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resolutely silent - until now. Newsnight's Zoe Conway secured

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exclusive interviews with them today. Al-Madinah school is fighting

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to survive. The principle, the deputy principle and the head of

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administration have resigned. It is accused of being taken over by

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Islamic hard liners. Three Government agencies are

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investigating. The Government could shut it down. Three of the school's

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governors decided to give their first interview after weeks of

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allegations in the press. Much has been made of the school's dress

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code, the fact that the female teachers were asked to wear a

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headscarf and hijab. The very first question to ask, if

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you are Muslim or non-Muslim, would you be prepared to cover your hair

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as part of the uniform policy? As to this date, they have not refused.

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Even those who have succeeded for the job and those who have not.

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Why should they wear a headscarf if they are not a Muslim? Let's talk

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about the uniform. You don't expect a sorjion to not to wear his

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overalls, or a dentist to wear his overalls. We are saying we are proud

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of the uniform that we have both in the terms of what we want for our

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children. How do you know there are not women

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who, are brilliant teachers, who are not going to come to teach at your

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school because you require them to wear a headscarf and they don't want

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to? We have a right to stipulate our code of dress. We have chosen. This

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is the code of dress we have adopted. If we look at an air

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hostess. They are required to wear certain head gear, the females wear

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different clothes to the male. We certain head gear, the females wear

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are not saying that they are discriminated against it is a

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decision made by the decision. This is a corporate image we would like

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our female staff to present. That is the decision we make. We are not

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saying by wearing the headscarf you are changing your religious identity

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at all, what we are sincerely saying is that this is the code of dress we

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would like our female members of staff to adopt. This is the decision

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as an organisation we have made. Is it possible to review that? Yes, it

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is. The Government has told the school

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to write to its female staff to tell them they do not have to wear a

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hijab if it is in conflict with their religious beliefs, but on

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Tuesday, the governors got a letter from the Education Minister, Lord

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Nash. He said that Al-Madinah had failed to ensure pupil's safety, had

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a poor standard of education and had been discriminating in its practise

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towards female staff and was failing in financial management. Lord Nash

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has given them three weeks to require with 17 requirements,

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otherwise funding will be terminated. Allegations have been

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made that girls have been forced to sit at the back of the class.

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Nobody is forced to do anything in this school. The allegations are

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unfortunate. When it comes to the seating arrangements in the class,

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we do not have a boy/girl seating arrangement. The way that the class

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is designed all children are treated equally. We have girls and boys

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sitting in the front and the back. There is no discrimination going on.

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When Al-Madinah hoped -- There is no discrimination going on.

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year it said it would honour all faiths, but it has been reported

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that only one of the school's 400 pupils is non-Muslim. The governors

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unable or unwilling to say hourm of their children are non-Muslim.

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We are on a journey, there are things that we have to improve. We

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know that, but like everything else, it takes time. Time to nurture a

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flower. We are coming out of a seedling point. We have to ensure

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that the right practises and the teaching and the learning is

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effective for it to turn into an attractive flower for people to come

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to us to say that they are going to this school no, not because it is a

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Muslim faith school but it is a great school.

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The Government says there has been no financial mismanagement. They are

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expecting that Ofsted will find the teaching inadequate, but they

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believe that they can turn things around.

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??The politicians can go whistle Dixie.That was how one editor,

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Fraser Nelson, of the Spectator, who is here with Ben Bradshaw, the

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former Labour Culture Secretary, responded to today's news that the

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main political parties are now as one on a new system of press

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regulation. The Conservatives collycobbles have been banished and

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its all aboard the Royal Charter. Problem is, not a single newspaper

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is prepared to sign up. So do we now have a Mexican standoff? Before I

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consult our guests, the media commentator, Steve Hewlett is here.

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So, no agreement at all? On the big thing, no. On some things there

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maybe more of an agreement. So there are compromises that make a

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difference. Mostly, the chafrter allows local papers who were worried

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about the stipulation that they should be a part of a low-cost ash

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station scream, that they were on the financial rocks, that there

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could be problems that a phone call or a letter could prove... They did

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not show evidence that could happen but there is now a mechanism if it

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happens, that it could be dealt with, but on the big red line issue

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of the political involvement in the regulation of the press, there is no

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agreement. No because the charter can be changed by a two thirds vote

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in both houses of harment. That could bring a threat if they were

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choose to the political class, they could get directly involved in the

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regulation of the press, that is a red line.

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So what are the press saying about from Nelson Fraser saying go whistle

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Dixie. It says there is charter controlled

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by politician, it is not approved by the newspaper or the magazines it

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seeks to regulate. Are the press agreed on this? No.

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They are agreed not to sign up to the charter. However, here is had

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how it goes. The Mail, the Telegraph, the Mirror are in to set

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up their own regulator. The Guardian, the FT are half in. They

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don't want to sign up but there are contractual disagreements with the

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other. Guardian are half out. They don't want to sign up, and the IPCC

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are floating out alone. In the last two days there has been frantic

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phone calls. The minister Maria Miller and her shadow, phoning

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editors trying to get to the point where when this happens that the

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government does not face a united press, all of them saying "no". They

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are desperate to try to get someone out there on their own.

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Steve Hewlett, thank you very much. Nelson Fraser is the editor of the

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Spectator and Ben Bradshaw is the former Labour Culture Secretary.

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Mell Nell you could be faced with a lible suit and there could be

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bankruptcy issues with the Spectator lible suit and there could be

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as you are not in the charter, then the liabilities are limited? It is

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worrying that the Government is inhibited free press or penalising

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papers no the licensed by the proposed regulator. It has suffered

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a sinister turn of events. The danger is that you become too

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timid as you are worried about massive litigation? That is so. With

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papers with small budgets, they would hesitate to investigate things

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where you could be taken to court and pay the damages or pay expenses

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even if you win, but it is probably illegal under European law, but it

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is not very free. I don't believe that the Government will go down

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this road and tear up three centuries of free speech and harass

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the press in such a way. But it will take two of both houses

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to alter this. There is no chance of this, so nothing will change? Well,

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for nothing to change, we must not give the politicians the power to

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regulate the press. That is why I hope that the newspapers don't agree

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to this. If they do, there will be be a terrible message not just to

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people in Britain but around the world, this are begging newspapers

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not to sign up with this. Not to throw away our freedoms of speech.

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Others may go also. Ben Bradshaw, some papers are

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suggesting that they could go to the wall? That is not a correct

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representation. Lord Leveson said this was to save the press money. To

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save the press the expensive litigations of claims. I am

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confident that a publisher, a newspaper, a publication will come

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into the system, setting up a regulator, recognised by the

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recognition body and then the incentives you referred to, very

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powerful, are written into the system and kick in. Then the

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responsible newspapers will come into line.

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Name them? I don't know. Steve Hewlett is suggesting that

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there may be a difference of opinion, but there is nobody ready

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to step in right away and lead the charter? I am not surprised. A lot

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of the newspapers, the Guardian, the FT, the IPCC have been nervous from

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breaking from the Daily Mail or the Daily Telegraph, but the way it has

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been set up, it is independent self-regulation, guaranteeing the

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freedom of the press, giving the responsibility to the press to set

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this up with the important recognition, the public assurance.

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Every time it's been done before, the press have gone away, they have

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said they will do it. It has not happened. That is why this body is

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important. Once it rek nierzs a regulator, all it needs is one

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publisher, then the system kicks in. Somebody will break away, maybe the

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IPCC? I doubt it. I don't think that a paper could sign up to a

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regulation with politicians, like Ben here, talking about who he

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thinks is responsible, who is not. But financially, for the local

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papers it could be the only way to ensure survival? That would be

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terrible if it were the case. The Government bullying them to give up

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freedoms or face the fines. Then they should go to Strasbourg to

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appeal against this illiberal law. I don't think that the Government will

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really force the newspapers to play it their way. The newspapers will do

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95% of what the Government wants, they just don't want the politicians

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in charge. There could be an nalt form of

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regulation coming in? Somethinged from hacked off in the back pockets

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to help the impasse? I don't know. I think if you look at the definition

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of publisher it is broad. It does not take anybody big to set up the

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body. Then the system kicks in. We have had more than two years since

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Leveson started the inquiry. The victims are waiting, the politicians

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have acted, the responsibility is for the press now to set up this

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independent self-regulation system so that the public can regain Trust.

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That is what will happen. The newspapers to come up with the

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toughest regulation in the Western world but the politicians cannot

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give the press their marching orders. It is the same it has been

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every time. Thank you very much.

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In China prostitution is illegal, but the BBC has found evidence of

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organised prostitution inside a number of well-known,

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Western-branded hotels in the country, including The Ramada, The

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Intercontinental and Kempinski hotels. Our investigation shows that

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sex is being bought and sold from third party-run businesses,

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operating from within some hotel premises. The three I've named all

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deny any knowledge of what was happening.Our correspondent John

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Sudworth reports from Shanghai. Chairman Mao once claimed to have

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driven prostitution from the streets.

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Today, it is around almost every corner.

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Still Strictly illegal but thriving on the commerce and the corruption

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unleashed by China's modern communist leaders.

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But now our investigation in which we speak to prostitutes and pimps

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operating inside hotels that are household names in Europe and

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America, shows for the first time just how deeply the Chinese sex

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trade has infiltrated the international hotel industry.

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The Kempinski Hotel chain calls itself Europe's oldest luxury hotel

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group. Founded in Germany, now based in Switzerland, it operates more

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than 755-star hotels around the world, including this one in the

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Chinese city of Qingdao, but following the signs to the spar,

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there is little luxury. Just a small independently-run

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business from which more than ten women are bought and sold for sex.

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He asks do you need them once or do you want them to stay overnight, he

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asks? Our discussion with one of the women, cap towered on a hidden

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camera is a stark illustration of how easily foreign businesses in

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China can become tangled up in vice and criminality.

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TRANSLATION: I am 20-year-old. I have sex with up to three clients a

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day. And I'm allowed to keep 40% of the fee charged.

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The Kempinski Hotel is far from an isolated example.

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We called dozens of international hotels and asked to be put through

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to their spas. Right across China, in around 7% of

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those that we speak to, prostitution appears to be easy to arrange.

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We also find sex on sale inside this hotel in Qingdao managed by the

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British-based Intercontinental Hotels Group. The spa is under

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independent management, as the sign makes clear. Here, legitimate

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massage is the main stay of the business, but the spa also openly

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rents out this prostitute to those who ask.

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She tells us that the bill for her services can be settled at the

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check-out through the hotel main desk.

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In a statement, the Intercontinental Hotel's Group says that prostitution

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is Strictly prohibited inside the hotels, including businesses. Hotel

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staff are not knowly involved in processing bills for prostitution.

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It has now closed the spa. Kempinski Hotels denies knowledge of the

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prostitution we found. Saying that a spa was originally planned for the

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hotel, hence the signage but never approved nor opened.

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The Qingdao hotel, it says is connected to a third-party business,

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through a basement passage way that cannot be closed off for safety

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reasons. Shaun Rein spends his time advising

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foreign companies in China. Now more than ever, he says, they should be

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striving to stay clean. There is a definite reputational

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risk for the brands to have hookers in the hotels. Especially from the

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government side. They will crack in the hotels. Especially from the

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down and go after the foreign brands more than domestic Chinese brands in

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order to show the country that they are adhering to the laws. It is

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easier to crack down on a foreign brand than it is on the local ones.

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A few months ago, the British pharmaceutical giant,

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GlaxoSmithKline found itself on the receiving end of just such a

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crackdown. Accused of paying bribes to boost sales here in China. It was

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forced to admit that some of its employees did appear to have broken

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the law. Our evidence suggests that the

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international hotel trade is at least running the risk of handing

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the Chinese government another political opportunity to look tough

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on foreign business. This is the The Ramada Plaza in the

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city of Guangzhou. A reassuring mark of quality and comfort for

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travellers in central Khan, far from home.

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-- in Central China. Following the signs we find a third party-run spa.

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This time for the yous of male customers only. With little

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hesitation this man tells us that 20 women work here. He hands us a leaf

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the. Prostitutes, the handwriting says,

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800 RM B, about £85. A group of female travellers who stayed here

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earlier in the year, raised their suspiciouses in this review, posted

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on the TripAdvisor website. The Wyndham Hotel Group said that they

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take this very veerl. That all independently owned and operated

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hotels under its Ramada franchise are required to comply with the law

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and the company adds, it provides training to identify and stop human

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exploitation. Prostitution faces danger not just

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from the clients but with the police. With the threat of constant

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crackdowns, arrests and public shamings. There may be more that

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some hotels could be doing to keep this exploitative trade away from

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their doors. The companies should be negotiating

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with the landlords from day one. If it is going to have a spa it could

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be owned by a third party but managed by the employees. And they

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are in charge of the hours, closing earlier rather than later.

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The Kempinski had decided to pull from the hotel in Qingdao before the

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investigation. They will crease to manage it from November the 15th, a

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sign that a year after it opened, something has gone badly wrong.

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For foreign companies, China offers unlimited opportunity, but the dark

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underbelly of this economy is ever present. While there is big money to

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be made here, there are also often overlooked, big reputational risks,

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too. Before we go on to the rest of the

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papers we deal with the Mail. We have Steve Hewlett back Indeed, Paul

:31:25.:31:35.

Decker, he defends what the paper did, but the same article is in the

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Guardian. So both barrels for the BBC.

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Coverage orchestrated by Alistair Campbell. So both barrels for the

:31:45.:31:49.

BBC. A tickling for the Guardian. The

:31:49.:31:53.

article appears in the Guardian. I wonder if it may have something to

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do with the fact that they are wonder if it may have something to

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desperate to get the Guardian into the press self-regulator.

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And the front of the Mail: A wonder drug.

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The Telegraph: The scandal of an MOD cash pile. And the IPCC: The British

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taxpayer. The Times: Britain and Germany in a secret pact to defy EU

:32:18.:32:24.

laws. And the story in the Guardian: We should talk sensible about

:32:24.:32:27.

spying. It was once described by George

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Orwell as one of the most hideous buildings in the world. The Sagrada

:32:31.:32:34.

Familia in Barcelona is due to be completed now in 2026, several

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hundred years ahead of schedule thanks to modern stone carving

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techniques, and a hundred years after Antonio Gaudi himself was run

:32:40.:32:44.

over by a tram, taking the fine detail of his original design with

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him. Here's what it will look like.

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