Told by a judge to vaccinate a child? The Muslim school shut down by Ofsted - we talk to the governors. And prostitution in the hotels of China. With Kirsty Wark.
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. A 15-year-old who was adamant she
did not want an MMR vaccine has been ordered by a high court judge to
have the injection despite the objection of her mother, but in
accordance with the wishes of her father. I'll be speaking to the
mother's lawyer, about the judgement and the rights of a teenager to
refuse treatment. More than 50 people are dead after a plying rant
ship has sunk. This time 70 miles from the Italian coast.
The flagship Muslim Free School has been given three weeks to get its
act together or be shut down. We have an exclusive interview with the
governors, defending their decision to make a non-muslim staff wear the
Hijab. The female air hostesses wear a different dress to the male ones.
That is a choice and a decision made by the business.
And a BBC investigation in China, where prostitution is illegal,
reveals the trade is operating within well known Western branded
hotels. Good evening.
The MMR vaccine has proved to be a dilemma for many parents. It
provides protection against measles, mumps and rubella, all potentially
fatal illnesses, but after the now discredited research which claimed
to show a link to autism many parents did not use it. Now, over a
decade later, what happens when one parent wants their children to be
vaccinated and the other doesn't? The case we report on tonight
involved two divorced parents and two children, one 15 and the other
11. The judge upheld the wishes of the father and ordered the two
children to be vaccinated. The deadline for that was today. Here's
Sancha Berg. Can a 15 radio-year-old be forced to have a vaccination
against their wishes in one of their parent's insists? Last month the
High Court judge ordered that a 15-year-old girl and her 11-year-old
sister, had to have the MMR jab by the end of today, even though they
said they did not want it. The elder said she would be upset if that was
in her body. The mother did not want them vaccinated either but the
parents were divorced, the father brought the case. Andrew Wakefield's
research, published in 1988 that triggered a panic about MMR and a
possible link with autism. The mother did not want the girls
vaccinated. The father agreed. Andrew Wakefield's work,
discredited, had a significant national impact. As the yellow bars
show, the vaccination rates dropped. They are rising but older children
are vulnerable. Cases of measles, mumps, rubella have been growing.
In Wales people have been queueing outside of clinics, desperate to get
their children vaccinated after measles broke out there. This
prompted the girl's father to change his mind. He was worried there could
be serious consequences of the illnesses. He wanted the children
vaccinated. The judge had to consider the
childrens's concerns and their understanding of the issues. They
were worried about the ingredients in the vaccine but less worried
about the ingredients in medicine they may have to take if they
contracted a disease. One said with the measles you just get a rash. The
court-appointed Guardian was worried they were influenced by their
mother, in turn, the mother gave evidence she was worried about the
psychological impact on the children, especially the elder one,
who had been counselled for anxiety. Parents have a choice to do what
they believe. I feel that both children have grown up in a frame of
mind that they were settled in and supported in the same outlook and
forced now to take a different view without more positive reassurance
and the recording of ingredients of the vaccine is unsatisfactory. They
have a right to be informed. The older child, the more seriously
her views are taken and more carefully she is listened to by the
court. In the case, the judge decided that the views expressed by
the 15-year-old were not suf shenly balanced or did not give weight to
the positive side of the immunisation.
I am aware that this is against the girl's shes but that is not the only
factor. The court has to consider their level of understanding of the
issues involved. And what factors influenced their views. I am not
convinced there is a balance of understanding of them by the issues
involved. The medical debate is settled, the
lawyers say. This is the third time that the High Court has ruled that a
child should have the MMR vaccine against parents' wishes it is
child should have the MMR vaccine unusual for the children to have
such strong objections too, the judge acknowledged it will have an
impact on the family. Sancha Berg.
Joining us now is the mother's solicitor, Philippa Dolan.
Latest reports say at least 50 people
What made the mother so sure she was acting well? The mother was sure
that this was a view that the family had reached since the children were
young. That it was the father who changed his mind recently. In the
meantime the children have been brought up with a particular point
of view, which is that if you are healthy, you eat properly, you have
a good immune system, then it is not necessary to be vaccinated and that
there are side effects that can be harmful.
But presumably, maybe not, but one of the thing's in the father's mind
is not just about the children but the grandchildren, rubella in
pregnancy is devastating? Yes. They are only 15 and 11 at the moment. It
would be the mother's position. She would say that the family has always
discussed things with the children. They have been treated in a way that
their views are respected. They have been informed. They have had family
discussions. So in that sense that supports the fact that the children
can make that decision when they are this age.
Or when each reach a majority age. What do you think is the
significance of the decision? We will have to see. I was very
surprised at it. I was very surprised that a 15-year-old, who,
15-year-olds are allowed to make all sorts of decisions, legally, and not
having an MMR vaccination, is, I mean, this may be controversial but
it is not life-threatening in the south-east of England in 2013.
I know of course that you kept your distance from the daughter, you were
acting for the mother, but firstly, I want to ask you the deadline for
the vaccination was today, have the girls been vaccinated? No. There are
practical difficulties in enforcing the order.
That is at the moment an ongoing issue.
If there are practical difficulties, they were not foreseen by the judge,
then? I don't know. I would be surprised if they were
not foreseen. So what happens now, then? I can't
really say. The judge ordered the girls to be vaccinated by today, the
girls have not been vaccinated. That has implications for the mother, who
presumably has the responsibilities for the children as well as the
father? There are no legal, at the moment, there is not a legal
deadline that is a serious issue. This is John going and the parents
are in discussion -- this is ongoing and the parents are in
discussion. It is hoped without further litigation.
It must have impact on the girls, especially the 15-year-old? It has
had an impact on both of them. In the judgment it was said that they
should not be treated separately. It was recognised that they both have
a, they are in a situation where they are independent thinking
people. The 11-year-old also feels strongly about it.
Thank you very much indeed. The latest reports say at least 50
people have been killed when their migrant boat capsized 70 miles off
the coast of Italy, in a terrible echo of the 300 close to shore of
Lampedusa a little more than a week ago. Matthew Pryce joins us now.
Matthew, is the rescue effort continuing? It is, yes. Just about
five minutes ago another helicopter flew across the incident itself. It
is about 60 miles to the south of here. The helicopters have been
bringing in the injured. Some of them who have been rescued from the
sea and one woman from the airport working there told us that they are
also bringing in some of those who have died.
It is looking like this is not a tragedy on the scale of the disaster
eight days ago off the coast of lamp deucea, today we were told that 339
bodies had been found, but in terms of this one it is about 27, 28. It
may go up to about 50, some Italian news outlet's are reporting, but the
vast number, the larger number of people on board the vessel, 200, it
looks like, they have been rescued. Part of the reason is that the
Italian Navy was close to the area where the boat capsized and sank.
They had also increased patrols as a direct result of last week's boat
capsizing. Matthew, thank you very much.
One of the the Government's flagship Free schools is on the verge of
having its funding pulled, which means it faces closure. No small
embarrassment for the Education Secretary Michael Gove. Al-Madinah
in Derby, which has been open for little over a year, has what it's
website calls a "strong Muslim ethos", but three separate
investigations say the school has discriminated towards female staff,
delivered a poor standard of education,and failed to ensure the
safety of children. The governors who run the school have stayed
resolutely silent - until now. Newsnight's Zoe Conway secured
exclusive interviews with them today. Al-Madinah school is fighting
to survive. The principle, the deputy principle and the head of
administration have resigned. It is accused of being taken over by
Islamic hard liners. Three Government agencies are
investigating. The Government could shut it down. Three of the school's
governors decided to give their first interview after weeks of
allegations in the press. Much has been made of the school's dress
code, the fact that the female teachers were asked to wear a
headscarf and hijab. The very first question to ask, if
you are Muslim or non-Muslim, would you be prepared to cover your hair
as part of the uniform policy? As to this date, they have not refused.
Even those who have succeeded for the job and those who have not.
Why should they wear a headscarf if they are not a Muslim? Let's talk
about the uniform. You don't expect a sorjion to not to wear his
overalls, or a dentist to wear his overalls. We are saying we are proud
of the uniform that we have both in the terms of what we want for our
children. How do you know there are not women
who, are brilliant teachers, who are not going to come to teach at your
school because you require them to wear a headscarf and they don't want
to? We have a right to stipulate our code of dress. We have chosen. This
is the code of dress we have adopted. If we look at an air
hostess. They are required to wear certain head gear, the females wear
different clothes to the male. We certain head gear, the females wear
are not saying that they are discriminated against it is a
decision made by the decision. This is a corporate image we would like
our female staff to present. That is the decision we make. We are not
saying by wearing the headscarf you are changing your religious identity
at all, what we are sincerely saying is that this is the code of dress we
would like our female members of staff to adopt. This is the decision
as an organisation we have made. Is it possible to review that? Yes, it
is. The Government has told the school
to write to its female staff to tell them they do not have to wear a
hijab if it is in conflict with their religious beliefs, but on
Tuesday, the governors got a letter from the Education Minister, Lord
Nash. He said that Al-Madinah had failed to ensure pupil's safety, had
a poor standard of education and had been discriminating in its practise
towards female staff and was failing in financial management. Lord Nash
has given them three weeks to require with 17 requirements,
otherwise funding will be terminated. Allegations have been
made that girls have been forced to sit at the back of the class.
Nobody is forced to do anything in this school. The allegations are
unfortunate. When it comes to the seating arrangements in the class,
we do not have a boy/girl seating arrangement. The way that the class
is designed all children are treated equally. We have girls and boys
sitting in the front and the back. There is no discrimination going on.
When Al-Madinah hoped -- There is no discrimination going on.
year it said it would honour all faiths, but it has been reported
that only one of the school's 400 pupils is non-Muslim. The governors
unable or unwilling to say hourm of their children are non-Muslim.
We are on a journey, there are things that we have to improve. We
know that, but like everything else, it takes time. Time to nurture a
flower. We are coming out of a seedling point. We have to ensure
that the right practises and the teaching and the learning is
effective for it to turn into an attractive flower for people to come
to us to say that they are going to this school no, not because it is a
Muslim faith school but it is a great school.
The Government says there has been no financial mismanagement. They are
expecting that Ofsted will find the teaching inadequate, but they
believe that they can turn things around.
??The politicians can go whistle Dixie.That was how one editor,
Fraser Nelson, of the Spectator, who is here with Ben Bradshaw, the
former Labour Culture Secretary, responded to today's news that the
main political parties are now as one on a new system of press
regulation. The Conservatives collycobbles have been banished and
its all aboard the Royal Charter. Problem is, not a single newspaper
is prepared to sign up. So do we now have a Mexican standoff? Before I
consult our guests, the media commentator, Steve Hewlett is here.
So, no agreement at all? On the big thing, no. On some things there
maybe more of an agreement. So there are compromises that make a
difference. Mostly, the chafrter allows local papers who were worried
about the stipulation that they should be a part of a low-cost ash
station scream, that they were on the financial rocks, that there
could be problems that a phone call or a letter could prove... They did
not show evidence that could happen but there is now a mechanism if it
happens, that it could be dealt with, but on the big red line issue
of the political involvement in the regulation of the press, there is no
agreement. No because the charter can be changed by a two thirds vote
in both houses of harment. That could bring a threat if they were
choose to the political class, they could get directly involved in the
regulation of the press, that is a red line.
So what are the press saying about from Nelson Fraser saying go whistle
Dixie. It says there is charter controlled
by politician, it is not approved by the newspaper or the magazines it
seeks to regulate. Are the press agreed on this? No.
They are agreed not to sign up to the charter. However, here is had
how it goes. The Mail, the Telegraph, the Mirror are in to set
up their own regulator. The Guardian, the FT are half in. They
don't want to sign up but there are contractual disagreements with the
other. Guardian are half out. They don't want to sign up, and the IPCC
are floating out alone. In the last two days there has been frantic
phone calls. The minister Maria Miller and her shadow, phoning
editors trying to get to the point where when this happens that the
government does not face a united press, all of them saying "no". They
are desperate to try to get someone out there on their own.
Steve Hewlett, thank you very much. Nelson Fraser is the editor of the
Spectator and Ben Bradshaw is the former Labour Culture Secretary.
Mell Nell you could be faced with a lible suit and there could be
bankruptcy issues with the Spectator lible suit and there could be
as you are not in the charter, then the liabilities are limited? It is
worrying that the Government is inhibited free press or penalising
papers no the licensed by the proposed regulator. It has suffered
a sinister turn of events. The danger is that you become too
timid as you are worried about massive litigation? That is so. With
papers with small budgets, they would hesitate to investigate things
where you could be taken to court and pay the damages or pay expenses
even if you win, but it is probably illegal under European law, but it
is not very free. I don't believe that the Government will go down
this road and tear up three centuries of free speech and harass
the press in such a way. But it will take two of both houses
to alter this. There is no chance of this, so nothing will change? Well,
for nothing to change, we must not give the politicians the power to
regulate the press. That is why I hope that the newspapers don't agree
to this. If they do, there will be be a terrible message not just to
people in Britain but around the world, this are begging newspapers
not to sign up with this. Not to throw away our freedoms of speech.
Others may go also. Ben Bradshaw, some papers are
suggesting that they could go to the wall? That is not a correct
representation. Lord Leveson said this was to save the press money. To
save the press the expensive litigations of claims. I am
confident that a publisher, a newspaper, a publication will come
into the system, setting up a regulator, recognised by the
recognition body and then the incentives you referred to, very
powerful, are written into the system and kick in. Then the
responsible newspapers will come into line.
Name them? I don't know. Steve Hewlett is suggesting that
there may be a difference of opinion, but there is nobody ready
to step in right away and lead the charter? I am not surprised. A lot
of the newspapers, the Guardian, the FT, the IPCC have been nervous from
breaking from the Daily Mail or the Daily Telegraph, but the way it has
been set up, it is independent self-regulation, guaranteeing the
freedom of the press, giving the responsibility to the press to set
this up with the important recognition, the public assurance.
Every time it's been done before, the press have gone away, they have
said they will do it. It has not happened. That is why this body is
important. Once it rek nierzs a regulator, all it needs is one
publisher, then the system kicks in. Somebody will break away, maybe the
IPCC? I doubt it. I don't think that a paper could sign up to a
regulation with politicians, like Ben here, talking about who he
thinks is responsible, who is not. But financially, for the local
papers it could be the only way to ensure survival? That would be
terrible if it were the case. The Government bullying them to give up
freedoms or face the fines. Then they should go to Strasbourg to
appeal against this illiberal law. I don't think that the Government will
really force the newspapers to play it their way. The newspapers will do
95% of what the Government wants, they just don't want the politicians
in charge. There could be an nalt form of
regulation coming in? Somethinged from hacked off in the back pockets
to help the impasse? I don't know. I think if you look at the definition
of publisher it is broad. It does not take anybody big to set up the
body. Then the system kicks in. We have had more than two years since
Leveson started the inquiry. The victims are waiting, the politicians
have acted, the responsibility is for the press now to set up this
independent self-regulation system so that the public can regain Trust.
That is what will happen. The newspapers to come up with the
toughest regulation in the Western world but the politicians cannot
give the press their marching orders. It is the same it has been
every time. Thank you very much.
In China prostitution is illegal, but the BBC has found evidence of
organised prostitution inside a number of well-known,
Western-branded hotels in the country, including The Ramada, The
Intercontinental and Kempinski hotels. Our investigation shows that
sex is being bought and sold from third party-run businesses,
operating from within some hotel premises. The three I've named all
deny any knowledge of what was happening.Our correspondent John
Sudworth reports from Shanghai. Chairman Mao once claimed to have
driven prostitution from the streets.
Today, it is around almost every corner.
Still Strictly illegal but thriving on the commerce and the corruption
unleashed by China's modern communist leaders.
But now our investigation in which we speak to prostitutes and pimps
operating inside hotels that are household names in Europe and
America, shows for the first time just how deeply the Chinese sex
trade has infiltrated the international hotel industry.
The Kempinski Hotel chain calls itself Europe's oldest luxury hotel
group. Founded in Germany, now based in Switzerland, it operates more
than 755-star hotels around the world, including this one in the
Chinese city of Qingdao, but following the signs to the spar,
there is little luxury. Just a small independently-run
business from which more than ten women are bought and sold for sex.
He asks do you need them once or do you want them to stay overnight, he
asks? Our discussion with one of the women, cap towered on a hidden
camera is a stark illustration of how easily foreign businesses in
China can become tangled up in vice and criminality.
TRANSLATION: I am 20-year-old. I have sex with up to three clients a
day. And I'm allowed to keep 40% of the fee charged.
The Kempinski Hotel is far from an isolated example.
We called dozens of international hotels and asked to be put through
to their spas. Right across China, in around 7% of
those that we speak to, prostitution appears to be easy to arrange.
We also find sex on sale inside this hotel in Qingdao managed by the
British-based Intercontinental Hotels Group. The spa is under
independent management, as the sign makes clear. Here, legitimate
massage is the main stay of the business, but the spa also openly
rents out this prostitute to those who ask.
She tells us that the bill for her services can be settled at the
check-out through the hotel main desk.
In a statement, the Intercontinental Hotel's Group says that prostitution
is Strictly prohibited inside the hotels, including businesses. Hotel
staff are not knowly involved in processing bills for prostitution.
It has now closed the spa. Kempinski Hotels denies knowledge of the
prostitution we found. Saying that a spa was originally planned for the
hotel, hence the signage but never approved nor opened.
The Qingdao hotel, it says is connected to a third-party business,
through a basement passage way that cannot be closed off for safety
reasons. Shaun Rein spends his time advising
foreign companies in China. Now more than ever, he says, they should be
striving to stay clean. There is a definite reputational
risk for the brands to have hookers in the hotels. Especially from the
government side. They will crack in the hotels. Especially from the
down and go after the foreign brands more than domestic Chinese brands in
order to show the country that they are adhering to the laws. It is
easier to crack down on a foreign brand than it is on the local ones.
A few months ago, the British pharmaceutical giant,
GlaxoSmithKline found itself on the receiving end of just such a
crackdown. Accused of paying bribes to boost sales here in China. It was
forced to admit that some of its employees did appear to have broken
the law. Our evidence suggests that the
international hotel trade is at least running the risk of handing
the Chinese government another political opportunity to look tough
on foreign business. This is the The Ramada Plaza in the
city of Guangzhou. A reassuring mark of quality and comfort for
travellers in central Khan, far from home.
-- in Central China. Following the signs we find a third party-run spa.
This time for the yous of male customers only. With little
hesitation this man tells us that 20 women work here. He hands us a leaf
the. Prostitutes, the handwriting says,
800 RM B, about £85. A group of female travellers who stayed here
earlier in the year, raised their suspiciouses in this review, posted
on the TripAdvisor website. The Wyndham Hotel Group said that they
take this very veerl. That all independently owned and operated
hotels under its Ramada franchise are required to comply with the law
and the company adds, it provides training to identify and stop human
exploitation. Prostitution faces danger not just
from the clients but with the police. With the threat of constant
crackdowns, arrests and public shamings. There may be more that
some hotels could be doing to keep this exploitative trade away from
their doors. The companies should be negotiating
with the landlords from day one. If it is going to have a spa it could
be owned by a third party but managed by the employees. And they
are in charge of the hours, closing earlier rather than later.
The Kempinski had decided to pull from the hotel in Qingdao before the
investigation. They will crease to manage it from November the 15th, a
sign that a year after it opened, something has gone badly wrong.
For foreign companies, China offers unlimited opportunity, but the dark
underbelly of this economy is ever present. While there is big money to
be made here, there are also often overlooked, big reputational risks,
too. Before we go on to the rest of the
papers we deal with the Mail. We have Steve Hewlett back Indeed, Paul
Decker, he defends what the paper did, but the same article is in the
Guardian. So both barrels for the BBC.
Coverage orchestrated by Alistair Campbell. So both barrels for the
BBC. A tickling for the Guardian. The
article appears in the Guardian. I wonder if it may have something to
do with the fact that they are wonder if it may have something to
desperate to get the Guardian into the press self-regulator.
And the front of the Mail: A wonder drug.
The Telegraph: The scandal of an MOD cash pile. And the IPCC: The British
taxpayer. The Times: Britain and Germany in a secret pact to defy EU
laws. And the story in the Guardian: We should talk sensible about
spying. It was once described by George
Orwell as one of the most hideous buildings in the world. The Sagrada
Familia in Barcelona is due to be completed now in 2026, several
hundred years ahead of schedule thanks to modern stone carving
techniques, and a hundred years after Antonio Gaudi himself was run
over by a tram, taking the fine detail of his original design with
him. Here's what it will look like.
Told by a judge to vaccinate a child? The Muslim school shut down by Ofsted - we talk to the governors. And prostitution in the hotels of China.