14/02/2014 Newsnight


14/02/2014

Should we abandon some places to the floods? Piers Morgan faces police on phone hacking, plus an exclusive interview with Spike Jonze on his new scifi movie, Her.


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for managed retreat. It may make economic sense but can you ever

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justify it on a human level. Piers Morgan investigated under police

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caution by officers investigating phone hacking, it emerges. You have

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a meeting in five minutes, you want to try getting out of bed, get up.

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You are too funny. Love is in the air as boy meets software. The film

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maker Spike Jonze will be talking exclusively to Newsnight about his

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new film, HER. Tonight, another storm piles into a country already

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dealing with the worst flooding in a generation. As heavy rainfall and

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gale force winds keep in from the Atlantic, it won't be pretty. More

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than 1,000 homes have been evacuated and there is no obvious relief

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coming round the corner. The orange on the map represents the flooded

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areas nine days a this is where it is today. At Romney Lock in

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Berkshire, this is where the river level is usually found, right now it

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is all the way up here. The Thames is at its highest level in zero

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years. Five -- 60 years. 5,800 properties have been flooded since

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December, last night over 100,000 were without power. Storm after

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storm crashing in throughout February, with 80mms of rain dumped

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on the UK already this month, four-times the norm. The scale of

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the floods crisis is prompting hard questions. Imagine discovering that

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in just over a decade your village, your whole community would be

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abandoned, left to the mercy of rising seas. The people of

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Fairbourne on the coast of west Wales, have just found out this may

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be what is in store. They are one of 50 coastal communities earmarked for

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what is known as "managed retreat", basically the acceptance that the

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cost of maintaining sea defences can't be justified. It makes

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economic sense, but is it good enough. We have been to the town and

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sent this report. Another corner of the country battered by storms this

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week. Is it In west Wales trees have blocked

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roads, power cut off and train lines shut down. For the last century we

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have tried to protect coastal communities with this, with sea

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wall, Shingle banks and break waters. But if we are going to live

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in a world of more powerful storms and rising sea level, we might have

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to accept that can't continue forever. Here there were

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controversial new plans to protect and save some coastal villages while

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others like this one could be left to the elements. There was a lovely

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little place, it is very quiet, a traditional bucket and spade holiday

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dtination, it is a slow-paced commune to ex-everybody knows each

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other, it is an old fashioned kind of place. It was built just over #00

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years ago as a holiday village for industrial workers. These days most

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of the thousand or so residents have retired here for a quiet life. Thank

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you. Remember that we have the least average wage in the whole of the

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British Isles round here, families are surviving on ?15,000-?18,000 a

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year, they don't have the money or the choice money gives you to move

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somewhere else. But this could be the first community in the UK to be

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lost to climate change. A report commissioned by the local authority

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found the rise in sea levels predicted over the next century will

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mean the cost of maintaining coastal protection is too high. Under the

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plans now being put forward, a new line of defence we set up here along

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this railway line at the back of the village, that area over there will

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then be at risk of serious flooding. So up to 400 families and local

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businesses will be told to relocate or moved away. On the small parade

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of shops in the heart of the village, they are working to extend

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the local Indian restaurant. Is bakically people -- basically people

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are panicking and worried. This is a retirement home. People buy houses

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here, it could be their pension fund. People just are panicking.

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There is a lot of people worried, very worried. But difficult

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decisions made here are not made in isolation. As sea levels rise we

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will have to decide whether to spend more on flood defences as a country?

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In planning terms there are three main options. The first attack as

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they have in the Netherlands, reclaim land and continue living

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just above the water lean, it doesn't come cheap. Or hold the

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line. Build yourself a higher sea wall, your coast is intact and your

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feet are Drysdale, but is it sustainable. Then there is the

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Fairbourne option, known as managed retreat, it is cheaper but the

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question of who is forced south emotionally charged. The storms are

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generated, more intense and more unpredictable. There will be a

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greater impact of storms because the higher sea levels will bring the

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storm waves closer to the shoreline. It will be a decision based on the

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cost of defending. And simple as that. We can defend but at cost.

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Uprooting an entire community won't happen without a fight. We are

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experiencing extreme weather patterns at the moment, people in

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England suffering terribly. You see on the news houses falling off

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cliffs into the sea. It is not just Fairbourne and the Welsh coast. So,

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yes, we have to think long-term, but the way they have gone about it,

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they have got the shoreline management plan and then said, oh,

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and we will do a managed retreat, it is almost like they have put the

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cart before the horse. They have to realise the enormous consequences on

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people's lives. The reaction in Fairbourne to these plans has ranged

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from disbelief to fury, the council has said it is not possible to

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defend every part of the Welsh coast and ignoring the problem is not an

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option. These are difficult choices then which other parts of the UK may

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soon have to face. So what's the answer for Fairbourne and other

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places like it, can we afford to be anything like other than hard headed

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faced with how water is rising long-term. We have our guest from

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the Flood Forum, and the advise of forethe American Government on

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Hurricane Katrina and other disSASers. The weather doesn't seem

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to be an inevitable thing that we have to be prepared to let things go

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we have to be prepared to let things go. What cost a life? To remove

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people from where they are living their lives, seeing people in the

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Post Office and pubs, to dispersion them in other communities, that can

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cause isolation and ultimately depression. We need to think hard

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about that. Actually perhaps the idea is to work with communities.

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There are solutions that don't mean removing whole communities like that

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aren't there, as we have seen? Absolutely. Technically it is

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possible to defend anything. And looking at the Netherlands where I

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come from, that is an example where as a society the decision has been

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made to protect the country into the long-term. But that's a place that

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the whole country relies on flood defences so, that makes it worth

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investing for the country in providing that protection. And we

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could be like that? We could be like that, but there are some fundamental

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differences between the netherlands and the UK. The fact that two-thirds

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of the country in Holland and the four largest cities are there means

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it is vital for the nation. Here it is about a sixth. The reality simply

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is that means it is not the only vital highest priority like it is in

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the Netherlands. Any pound that you spend you can't spend on education

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or health care. It is already happening in some parts, which are

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uninhabited, at what point do you say we will lose a few homes if it

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means not spending the millions or eventually the billions that would

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need to be put in to rescue it? It is a very hard decision. As we saw

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in that report communities are aware that you know that they need to look

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long-term. I think what we need to do as that lady was explaining,

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these things have just happened, the decisions are made, but not with the

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community. I think that's where... No community would ever say yes to

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that, it has to be something from further outside, right? It adds to

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the problem if they are not discussed. If we don't draw

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communities into the discussion and work with communities, and find out

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how they are feeling and how they see the future, and work together in

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partnership to come to a compromise or the way forward, then, you know,

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it is not good. In a sense as soon as that thought has had, as soon as

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somebody sees the bit of paper, that is the end of life and investment

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and commerce for that community, right? It is a very complicated

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problem. It is a very difficult message to get across. The point is

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that the only alternative is to pretend that we will be able to keep

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defending them, while the reality, that would mean a totally different

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political choice in terms of the investment that the country makes.

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It is basically a political choice, that is what you are saying? There

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is a big part of that, yeah, absolutely. Personally I don't think

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in the UK context it is realistic to expect the whole country will be

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protected. I do think there are likely to be places like that. Must

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know, you know, in your head that there is no going to be that kind of

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investment coming, and it is wrong to pretend to these communities that

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they can carry on surviving like that? I don't think we need to

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pretend, we need to work with them, but also... What does that mean,

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work with them? We need to bring them in as partnership, so they are

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brought in right from the start and they understand right from the

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start. So the management involves them. And what the decisions

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involving them also I think you will find the netherlands, correct me if

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I'm wrong, actually invest in flood risk management to a higher degree

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than we do in England. That is what you are saying, it is not going to

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change. I wonder if the one on the best coast of Wales goes and we

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talked about the town tonight. What happens to the next one and next

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one. When will it stop? It will stop at one stage. There is not that much

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risk in the foreseeable future. An important element is on the one hand

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it is worth for the UK to start investing more and protecting more

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households. And if investment does increase many of these households

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will be protected. The head of the Environment Agency said on our

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programme on Monday night that he thought any community should be

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protected. He seemed to completely rule out this managed retreat? It

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is, you would have to then also pay the bill for T so that political

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choice then has to be made. I'm not sure if the country is ready for

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that. Do you think there is the political will to recognise the

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direction of travel, to have that long-term vision about paying the

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bill? I think that certainly as far as the national flood forum is

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concerned we are working with communities in and out, people's

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whole existence is within that community, and yes, I do think that

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we should be investing a lot more. We are seeing all these floods

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happening now. They are on the inIan he is, so -- increase, so we need

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the investment. Thank you very much both of you. Thank you for coming.

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Piers Morgan confirmed today that he had been questioned by police

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investigating the phone hacking scandal. The former Mirror editor,

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now hosting a CNN talk show in the US, was interviewed under caution

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back in December. He has always denied involvement in phone hacking

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and told the Leveson Inquiry that he wasn't aware of phone hacking whilst

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working at the Mirror. Now it is Piers Morgan's life stories, with...

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. Piers Morgan motoring. motoring. 'S best-looking heart-throbs Britain

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has produced, a rich, variedied unpredictable life. A TV heart-throb

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and doesn't give interviews. Although he doesn't, but one this

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morning, last December, to the police, under caution, about phone

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hacking. The man who broke that story was Guardian writer, Roy

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Greenslade. He's entertaining, thick sinned and totally -- thick skinned

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and totally obsessed with himself. He has pushed the boundaries of

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journalism. He was censured by the pressure Complaints Comission on a

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number of officials and sacked from the Mirror for publishing hoax

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pictures. Any suggestion that Piers Morgan knew anything about phone

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hacking has been created by... . Er... . Piers Morgan motoring. In it

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006 he wrote in the Daily Mail saying he had listened to a tape

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recording of a message left by Paul McCartney left on the mailbox of his

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then wife Heather Mills. He described phone hacking as can't an

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investigative practice that everyone knows was going on at almost every

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paper in Fleet Street for years". To stab it all there was the story told

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by Jeremy Paxman, yes, Newsnight's very own, that in 2002 he had been

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to a lunch in the Mirror Group, where Piers Morgan had explained to

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him in detail precisely how to hack mobile phones. At the lever son

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inquiry Morgan tried to play down his state of knowledge about all

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things hacking. An effort that Lord Leveson described as "utterly

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unpersuasive". Leveson went on to say he had seen no evidence that

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Morgan had authorised hacking or anyone from the Mirror had. That was

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enthis. Since then civil hacking actions against them have been given

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the go ahead to proceed to court. A number of journalist have been

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arrested with regards to hacking. A current witness in the trial said he

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learned how to hack at the Sunday Mirror, the police have let it be

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known that the Mirror Group was under investigation for potential

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corporate criminal liability. Given all of that, and Morgan's previous,

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so to speak, once the police started looking seriously at the Mirror in

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connection with phone hacking, it was a virtual inevitability that

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Morgan would be interviewed by investigating officers. In fact, it

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would have been much more surprising if he hadn't been. On his Twitter

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account Morgan says of himself, and I quote, "one day, you are the cock

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of the walk, the next you are a feather duster". Is he cock or

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cleaner? What about his new year as the new Larry King on America's CNN

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news network? Morgan's buzz hasn't translated to particularly strong

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ratings. His position is some what tenuous, as is almost everyone else

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in the prime time line-up. The question that this will reach out

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and damage him is something they are monitoring at CNN. I wouldn't think

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the latest disclosure that he was questioned by police is in itself

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dispositive. For now Piers Morgan is making the news. Leaving that to one

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side for a second Steve, we have got a fairly big week next week in the

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hacking trial, Rebekah Brooks will take the stand? She l for the first

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time a key defendant takes the stand. The whole thing is taking

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longer than we thought, it is a month-and-a-half beyond schedule.

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Rebekah Brooks is said to be on the stand for two weeks leading on to

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other conditions like Andy Coulson and others. She will be asked, it

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will be h first opportunity to answer the prosecution case that she

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knew about the hacking of Milly do youer's -- Dowler's phone. And

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critically that she was involved in a conspiracy to pervert the course

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of justice. She is expected to take the stand and be there for as much

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as two weeks. You say it is behind schedule, is there any end in sight?

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Mid-May at the earliest. Why do we think it has taken so long? It is a

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very, very detailed case. For anyone following the level of detail is

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bafflingly complex. With every connection between every fact,

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volumes and volumes of them. Painstaking and established. It has

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taken a long time. On the story we are reporting earlier the Mirror has

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denied all charges. Piers Morgan and the Mirror scoop group deny any

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wrongdoing. How can we ignore Valentine's particularlien the

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latest film has the age-old story of boy meets computer! ? The latest

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offering from Spike Jonze, of Adaptation, we will ask him what

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happens when you fall in love with your operating system. His film is

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set in some elusive point in the future, as our technology editor

:18:28.:18:31.

reports, the days of getting cosy with your software may not be that

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far way. What do you love most about Sam? She's so many things. I can say

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it is because she isn't one thing. It is the every day story of man

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falling in love with his computer operating system. Backchimp Phoenix

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plays a man whose life comes together by building his life

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through an operating system. All companies are working on providing

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us with a technical system, the modern genie, not out of a lamp but

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smart connected devices. Hello David, I'm Jude, think of me as your

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virtual producer. Hello, what I want to know is when will this be a

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reality, when can I get my open virtual personal assistant? Well

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David to help you answer that question I will arrange some smart

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humans for you to talk to. First Professor Steve Young at Cambridge

:19:37.:19:42.

University. Head of engineering. I'm here now, what do I need to know He

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can start by telling you why tech companies are so keen to provide

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personal assistants. I will give awe clue, Kerr change! -- kerching. You

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might say you like shirts or can you order me three. The agent starts

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transactions on your behalf. Who owns the agent, who is getting the

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commission from the sale? Well, of course, Apple wants the commission,

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or going goggle wants the commission. And it is interesting

:20:18.:20:21.

that Amazon are now working very heavily in this space. There already

:20:22.:20:26.

are some virtual assistants that are quite impressive but fairly limited

:20:27.:20:30.

around right now. Google has something called Google Now, Sampson

:20:31.:20:36.

has S-voice and Apple has Siri, which is supposedly for "beautiful

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woman who leads us to victory". This is Siri. How are Chelsea doing? OK,

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they appear to be in the first place in the Premier League right now.

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Good. However if you ask them something they don't know, they

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resort to a web search. Don't try gettingam rouse. I love you? That's

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sweet but it is not meant to be. The company behind the Samsung system is

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called New Canned Communications, they are behind the Apple system

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too, but they won't admit that publicly. Their principle solutions

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architect, John West believes we will get closer to the ominousent

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sources too -- ominousent sources come soon. You are listening to your

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playlist and you might say throw it on to the sound system, then your

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Sonas, or whatever bursts into life with the playlist you were listening

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on to your mobile device. There is the transition of saying "how are

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your United doing? ? S can "to me it is Hereford as opposed to Manchester

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United. To be able to give me the information relevant to me. Is

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there a danger that these virtual personal assistants will get a

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little annoying. You might remember the Microsoft paper click. Even a

:22:10.:22:13.

decade after it was retired it still creates a bit of a shudder. At the

:22:14.:22:18.

risk of being annoying David, you might like to know that Microsoft

:22:19.:22:22.

are investing a huge amount of effort into creating a new virtual

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assistant, the managing director of Microsoft research has his own

:22:28.:22:31.

virtual assistant. Two people stopped by to see you, I said you

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would be back in 15 minutes. He said once of the hardest part is the

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conversation's natural, sounding, rules. Natural sounding Rauls.

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Conversation is more or -- Rules. Conversation is like a complex

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Tango, a dance between two people in the could go any of space basis the

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muscular skeltal state. But meeting more than one person involves not

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just a simple turn taking, like you might see in today's assistants or

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on the cellphone, but it is a very complicated fluid operation where

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people are breaking in. What about the cost, to work this new begin

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racial of personal assistants will require us to hand over more or less

:23:19.:23:22.

every detail about our lives to one of the big ten companies, once they

:23:23.:23:26.

have got us we are pretty much locked in. It will be a big deal to

:23:27.:23:31.

sack your agent and start using someone else. Like getting divorced?

:23:32.:23:49.

Yes. We are a few years away from an assistant as glamorous andam rouse

:23:50.:23:57.

as Scarlet. That is very rude. You are artificial artificial

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intelligence. Still, there is no need to get personal. Despite Jonze

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who is the maverick director who started out as a skateboarder in

:24:09.:24:15.

videos, and breaking out into films like Adaptation and others. Thank

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you very much, talk us through of the idea in HER of falling in love

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with your soft wear? Have you seen the movie? I have, but I'm not

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allowed to tell people the end! Yes, I'm just curious what your reaction

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to the movie, or what you felt when you were watching it. The lead-in

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was all about falling in love with software, which actually the movie

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isn't about, it is more of a love story and relationship story. But I

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was wondering what you felt when you were watching it. I was curious as

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to whether the plan has found his ideal woman who works for him as his

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PA. As the movie goes on, she certainly starts out as his

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assistant. As she becomes a person is when the relationship becomes

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real, when she has her own wants and needs and her own desires separate

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from what he wants. That is where obviously the conflict in any

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relationship is. How to have your own needs and fulfil your partner's

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needs as much as you can. Did you watch it more from that point of

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view or emotionally at all? Was the computer, the software side

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important for you. This is an idea that has been rumbling for ten years

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or so with you. The I wondered if you worried technology would

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overtake you? No, the movie is really not about technology or

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software. And that is why I'm trying to understand how you felt it when

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you watched the movie, because the movie, most peop find it an

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emotional movie, but the way you are decribing it sounds more of a, to me

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it is not a movie about the technology in society, it is not a

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commentary on that. That is the setting that we live in right now.

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Which is, he know -- you know. At the moment there is a particular set

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of circumstances that prevend us or we use to avoid intimacy. Really the

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movie is about finding intimacy with somebody else outside yourself. Both

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for him, for Joachim and Scarlet's character, it is just a voice for

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them, it is them trying to connect. It is the challenge trying to

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connect and longing to connect when you know, and then the need for

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intimacy and the things inside ourselves that prevent us from

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incompetency. -- intimacy. Were you not moved by the movie. The audience

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want to hear you not me? I want to hear from you. Emily. Emily don't

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avoid this question. Do you think. Were you moved by it at all I was

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moved by it. Yeah. Would you see it asset in the future? It is set in

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the slight future but more of a heightened version of our world,

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where everything is sort of comfortable or convenient and nice,

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but there is still this loaning or loneliness and need f connection and

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tell me what moved you? One thing I thought was curious is the

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technology is not very obvious and not in your faces and need for

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connection and tell me what moved you? One thing I thought was curious

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is the technology is not very obvious and not in your face, it

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recede noose the background and the characters are there. Is it

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deliberate? Yes, it is the setting for the love story. You filmed it in

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the scientifically advanced part of the world in chine that. We filmed,

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the movie is set in Los Angeles, we used it could larged together with

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areas of Shanghai to create a future Los Angeles. It is not necessarily

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scientific, it is an area or city that has a lot of new construction

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and it works as a new low-developed Los Angeles. ?TRANSMIT Elizabeth

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Yarnold stormed to gold in the skeleton bob in the Sochi Olympics,

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winning the first medal of the games. This is the taster of what is

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# And I'm hanging on a moment with you.

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