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Decision day approaches for Labour MPs. | :00:11. | :00:25. | |
They are poised to decide who will take on Jeremy Corbyn. | :00:26. | :00:28. | |
Will it be Angela Eagle or Owen Smith? | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
It was another embarrassing day for Labour in the Commons, | :00:35. | :00:36. | |
divided on Trident and with MPs turning on their leader. | :00:37. | :00:38. | |
Whatever she is about to hear from our front bench, | :00:39. | :00:44. | |
it remains steadfastly Labour Party policy to renew the deterrent | :00:45. | :00:48. | |
while other countries have the capacity to threaten | :00:49. | :00:50. | |
We'll debate the pros and cons of Corbyn, Eagle and Smith. | :00:51. | :00:59. | |
Tonight on Newsnight, we're in Ohio, away | :01:00. | :01:03. | |
from the politicians, the police, the | :01:04. | :01:09. | |
predictable speeches, | :01:10. | :01:11. | |
what does real America make of Mr Trump as the candidate | :01:12. | :01:13. | |
And democracy is restored in Turkey, in President | :01:14. | :01:17. | |
In the aftermath of the coup, President Erdogan and his | :01:18. | :01:23. | |
supporters in the police and elsewhere want revenge. | :01:24. | :01:25. | |
They are cracking down on what they call | :01:26. | :01:28. | |
Already, nearly 6,000 people have been arrested. | :01:29. | :01:39. | |
The new Prime Minister Theresa May lobbed a small nuclear device over | :01:40. | :01:44. | |
at the Labour Party today, she gave them a vote | :01:45. | :01:46. | |
on a Trident replacement, knowing that it was | :01:47. | :01:49. | |
bound to exacerbate the leadership tensions there. | :01:50. | :01:51. | |
The parliamentary motion in favour of a Trident replacement | :01:52. | :01:57. | |
It was a binary motion - for or against, but Labour managed | :01:58. | :02:01. | |
to split three ways - for, against and abstain. | :02:02. | :02:03. | |
And tonight, Labour's leadership contest is also split three ways. | :02:04. | :02:08. | |
Jeremy Corbyn, in the running of course, and two challengers | :02:09. | :02:10. | |
putting themselves up for a fight, Angela Eagle and Owen Smith. | :02:11. | :02:13. | |
The two challengers should become one before long. | :02:14. | :02:20. | |
Our political editor Nick Watt is with me. | :02:21. | :02:24. | |
the result of the Trident vote, any surprise? No surprise, parliament | :02:25. | :02:35. | |
has voted overwhelmingly in favour of replacing Trident. That means a | :02:36. | :02:39. | |
sizeable number of Labour in these voted with the government but | :02:40. | :02:43. | |
crucially they voted for official Labour Party policy, to support the | :02:44. | :02:47. | |
nuclear deterrent. Jeremy Corbyn, facing a leadership challenge, a | :02:48. | :02:52. | |
great opportunity for him to burnish his credentials as a lifelong | :02:53. | :02:56. | |
supporter of unilateral nuclear disarmament. Where does this leave | :02:57. | :03:00. | |
the leadership race? We have learned that the two challengers, Angela | :03:01. | :03:04. | |
Eagle and Owen Smith, are going to agree a unity candidate when | :03:05. | :03:10. | |
nominations close at 5pm on Wednesday. The candidate with the | :03:11. | :03:13. | |
fewest number of nominations will stand aside. So we thought with 48 | :03:14. | :03:17. | |
hours to go until the deadline, we would have a look at the dark horse | :03:18. | :03:19. | |
candidate, Owen Smith. It isn't that long ago that the man | :03:20. | :03:29. | |
who could be on the cusp of challenging Jeremy Corbyn for the | :03:30. | :03:33. | |
leadership of the Labour Party was barely known outside the world of | :03:34. | :03:39. | |
political think tanks. Bevan has gone. Owen Smith is being hailed by | :03:40. | :03:44. | |
his friends as Labour's great hope, in the mould of his hero and fellow | :03:45. | :03:52. | |
Welshman, Nye Bevan. Very much the soft left of the Labour Party. Much | :03:53. | :04:04. | |
of is rooted in his own roots in Wales, someone who can see the other | :04:05. | :04:10. | |
point of view and is able to create a bridge between different parts of | :04:11. | :04:14. | |
the Labour Party. Smith has moved to distance himself from Tony Blair by | :04:15. | :04:18. | |
calling for Klaus four of the Labour Party constitution to be rewritten | :04:19. | :04:23. | |
once again, to contain an explicit commitment to tackle inequality. | :04:24. | :04:29. | |
Some of the things that particularly excited me are his bold plans for | :04:30. | :04:35. | |
the economy, now is the time we need to be investing in the future, not | :04:36. | :04:39. | |
cutting back. That tradition of economic intervention. He's | :04:40. | :04:45. | |
articulated that, really powerfully and passionately in a way I think | :04:46. | :04:51. | |
that can win the next election on that platform. Critics in the Labour | :04:52. | :04:55. | |
Party say that Owen Smith started his political career as an adviser | :04:56. | :04:59. | |
to a Cabinet minister who was one of Tony Blair's greatest admirers. But | :05:00. | :05:04. | |
his former boss points out that Smith was no fan of the most | :05:05. | :05:08. | |
damaging legacy of the Blair in the, the Iraq war. On issues like the | :05:09. | :05:14. | |
Iraq war, for example, he was with me in 2003 when I was the Northern | :05:15. | :05:20. | |
Ireland Secretary in the Cabinet. He disagreed with the decision to go | :05:21. | :05:26. | |
into the Iraq war and he stuck with that position. Owen Smith knows he | :05:27. | :05:31. | |
has a challenge to show that he is a clean skin, untainted by Labour's | :05:32. | :05:36. | |
period in office. Friends say that he was one of the first senior | :05:37. | :05:43. | |
figures to clock the defining aspect of the party, the disconnect between | :05:44. | :05:47. | |
the grassroot members and the elite. His loss in a loss solid -- in a | :05:48. | :05:55. | |
solid Labour seat a decade ago taught him failure and never | :05:56. | :05:58. | |
neglecting natural supporters. Friends say that his experience in | :05:59. | :06:01. | |
the by-election has informed his approach to politics ever since. As | :06:02. | :06:05. | |
soon as he arrived in Parliament in 2010 he said that Labour had to move | :06:06. | :06:10. | |
on from the Blair and Brown era. Campaigning in the Scottish | :06:11. | :06:12. | |
independence referendum, he predicted the collapse in support | :06:13. | :06:19. | |
for Labour with the words" this feels like my constituency." He has | :06:20. | :06:24. | |
an instinctive feel for Labour as a son of one of its great historians. | :06:25. | :06:38. | |
His father, Dai Smith, the doyen of Street. It's only after Owen decided | :06:39. | :06:46. | |
he would work with us that I got to know him -- of history. Owen Smith | :06:47. | :06:50. | |
is working hard to show he is a man of the people. He ran into trouble | :06:51. | :06:55. | |
today when he put his family to the fore, inviting comparisons with his | :06:56. | :07:01. | |
rival, Angela Eagle, who is in a civil partnership. I'm glad you | :07:02. | :07:04. | |
think I'm normal, I am normal, I grew up in a normal household, I | :07:05. | :07:08. | |
have a wife and three children, my wife is a teacher. Owen Smith is a | :07:09. | :07:12. | |
determined political fighter but he can sometimes appear a bit on | :07:13. | :07:18. | |
worldly. During his time as a BBC radio producer he was once asked to | :07:19. | :07:22. | |
get a police response to an unfolding crime story. Smith | :07:23. | :07:26. | |
telephoned 999, prompting an official complaint by the Met. He | :07:27. | :07:32. | |
made to be a bit more savvy if he's going to wrest control of the Labour | :07:33. | :07:33. | |
Party. Just to give you one bit of data, | :07:34. | :07:38. | |
for what it's worth. The bookies have Jeremy Corbyn | :07:39. | :07:41. | |
as favourite to win the leadership race, but Owen Smith | :07:42. | :07:43. | |
is not far behind. The odds imply a 54% | :07:44. | :07:45. | |
chance of Corbyn winning, Well, I'm joined by three Labour MPs | :07:46. | :07:47. | |
with three different views. Lisa Nandy is backing Owen Smith, | :07:48. | :07:55. | |
Lilian Greenwood is supporting Angela Eagle and Barry Gardiner, | :07:56. | :08:01. | |
who opposes the challenge Lilian, you published a speech that | :08:02. | :08:13. | |
you gave to your party about why you weren't behind Jeremy Corbyn. What | :08:14. | :08:18. | |
anecdote can you get from that that you would say is the most telling | :08:19. | :08:21. | |
for what's wrong with the Corbyn leadership? For me, it's all about | :08:22. | :08:29. | |
confidence or rather the lack of it. Calendar item is when rail fares go | :08:30. | :08:34. | |
up at the start of the year and Labour had a brand-new policy, a | :08:35. | :08:39. | |
very popular policy around renationalising the railways. We | :08:40. | :08:43. | |
planned to go out and do the work on the 4th of January, we had activists | :08:44. | :08:47. | |
ready to highlight our policy and ready to talk about the | :08:48. | :08:50. | |
Conservatives' failure and that very day when we had started doing the | :08:51. | :08:55. | |
media rounds, Jeremy Lawlor is re-shuffle and completely knocked it | :08:56. | :09:00. | |
off the newspapers -- Jeremy launched his reachable. At a leader | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
has to do reshuffle when he has two reshuffle. It wasn't a little press | :09:06. | :09:12. | |
think it was a huge media item that was planned for a long time. If that | :09:13. | :09:16. | |
was the only example, I wouldn't be saying that I'd lost confidence but | :09:17. | :09:20. | |
unfortunately that was only one of many examples. Lisa, is that your | :09:21. | :09:25. | |
experience too Western Mark during the leadership election when Jeremy | :09:26. | :09:32. | |
fought on the ticket of changing politics, that was Barry welcomed | :09:33. | :09:35. | |
and we should recognise it was an important moment for the party but | :09:36. | :09:40. | |
the experienced Lilian described is the experience of many of my Shadow | :09:41. | :09:45. | |
Cabinet colleagues, finding that the culture of having small groups | :09:46. | :09:49. | |
around the leader making decisions outside of the collective leadership | :09:50. | :09:52. | |
team has continued, we haven't been able to change that. What is worse | :09:53. | :09:56. | |
is that when it became apparent that this was becoming a real crisis and | :09:57. | :10:02. | |
a small group of us who are politically and personally | :10:03. | :10:04. | |
sympathetic to Jeremy and the attempts he's made to bring people | :10:05. | :10:08. | |
into his team went to see him it became very apparent that the | :10:09. | :10:12. | |
collective leadership around him were not prepared to reach out and | :10:13. | :10:17. | |
unite and compromise. In fact they were telling us they were going to | :10:18. | :10:21. | |
do the opposite, even if the likely result is to smash the party. The | :10:22. | :10:25. | |
truth is that none of us should support that. Barry Gardiner, why | :10:26. | :10:32. | |
are you supporting that? I'm taking on the Conservatives because I | :10:33. | :10:35. | |
believe it was incredible that at a time when we had seen the results of | :10:36. | :10:40. | |
the referendum, when we had a Prime Minister being forced to resign as a | :10:41. | :10:47. | |
result of it, our top team, as it were, went a while. I don't think | :10:48. | :10:55. | |
that was right -- went AWOL. The weight in which it was done was to | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
try and get Jeremy to resign rather than following the party process, to | :11:00. | :11:03. | |
say we will have a contest and here is someone standing against them and | :11:04. | :11:07. | |
they have 50 votes -- the way in which it was done. That would have | :11:08. | :11:11. | |
been upfront, it would have been tough but it would have been | :11:12. | :11:15. | |
according to the process. The rather nasty undermining process. They | :11:16. | :11:21. | |
tried to force out without a vote. I think that was very wrong and it was | :11:22. | :11:25. | |
disrespectful. You are shaking your head. That isn't how it was, that | :11:26. | :11:31. | |
morning of the result when Jeremy called for the triggering of article | :11:32. | :11:35. | |
50 without even talking to the Shadow Cabinet, without talking to | :11:36. | :11:39. | |
the leader of the European Parliamentary Labour Party, was the | :11:40. | :11:45. | |
last straw. I could imagine having to talk to my voters, there was a | :11:46. | :11:50. | |
possibility of a very speedy general election, and they would ask me, do | :11:51. | :11:55. | |
you think Jeremy is the right person to lead the country and I wouldn't | :11:56. | :11:58. | |
be able to look them in the eye and say yes. Do you think he's the right | :11:59. | :12:03. | |
person to lead the country? Let's say we have an election in October, | :12:04. | :12:06. | |
you would say that he's the right man to be Prime Minister? As you | :12:07. | :12:12. | |
know, I didn't support Jeremy nine months ago and I will be | :12:13. | :12:22. | |
nominating... You would say that he should be Prime Minister? Any Labour | :12:23. | :12:26. | |
leader is better than any Conservative Prime Minister because | :12:27. | :12:29. | |
a Labour leader will deliver Labour policies and that is what is needed | :12:30. | :12:34. | |
by the people who we serve in this country, the people who are | :12:35. | :12:38. | |
marginalised, suffering from benefits cuts, the people who | :12:39. | :12:43. | |
absolutely need jobs that are not just wasted jobs. One of the key | :12:44. | :12:48. | |
test of a leader isn't whether he or she is prepared to stand up to their | :12:49. | :12:51. | |
enemies but whether they are prepared to stand up to their | :12:52. | :12:54. | |
friends and I think too much of what we've heard from people like Lilian | :12:55. | :13:00. | |
has shown that actually we don't have a situation in the Labour Party | :13:01. | :13:02. | |
where someone is prepared to do that. I also think, Barry, honestly, | :13:03. | :13:08. | |
that this isn't just about members of Parliament losing confidence in | :13:09. | :13:11. | |
Jeremy. We know that the membership is divided. Many people absolutely | :13:12. | :13:16. | |
support Corbyn and many people oppose him. We cannot be a united | :13:17. | :13:22. | |
political force if both the parliamentary party and large | :13:23. | :13:25. | |
sections of the membership have lost confidence in the leader. Including | :13:26. | :13:30. | |
newcomer from the sounds of this. All -- including you, from the | :13:31. | :13:36. | |
sounds of this. We don't own the party as members of Parliament, the | :13:37. | :13:41. | |
party operates according to democratic processes and what we | :13:42. | :13:45. | |
need to do is to find a negotiated way forward where all sides of the | :13:46. | :13:47. | |
party... Part two is both of you, backing | :13:48. | :13:57. | |
different candidates for checking on Jeremy Corbyn. Give me the 12 word | :13:58. | :14:03. | |
pitch. I am backing Angela Eagle because... I am not clear what the | :14:04. | :14:09. | |
distinctive pitches are. What is it that makes you back Angela Eagle? We | :14:10. | :14:14. | |
need somebody who can heal the party and the country and I think Angela | :14:15. | :14:19. | |
has got the experience, we have seen her resting George Osborne, the | :14:20. | :14:25. | |
experience of uniting the party, a brilliant chair of the national | :14:26. | :14:28. | |
policy forum, she is not factional and is frankly courageous. I think | :14:29. | :14:34. | |
it is about time the Labour Party was led by a woman. What is your | :14:35. | :14:40. | |
short pitch? I would agree with something one said, he would be | :14:41. | :14:46. | |
proud to serve under Angela Eagle if she emerged as a candidate and I | :14:47. | :14:50. | |
would echo that, I would do so with real pride. But what is good? What I | :14:51. | :15:00. | |
want in a Labour Party leader is someone with socialist values but a | :15:01. | :15:03. | |
plan to achieve them, who understands deeply that the way we | :15:04. | :15:08. | |
get the best answers for the country is to draw upon all the traditions | :15:09. | :15:12. | |
of the party in the Shadow Cabinet and the membership and somebody who | :15:13. | :15:16. | |
is relentlessly focused on the challenges we have now and coming | :15:17. | :15:20. | |
down the line rather than rehearsing old arguments of the past. How | :15:21. | :15:24. | |
important is it that a woman should be leader? Angela Eagle is making a | :15:25. | :15:28. | |
lot of that. When you say, would you drop out, it is basically about the | :15:29. | :15:37. | |
X chromosome? It is primarily about her qualities as a person, about | :15:38. | :15:41. | |
what I have seen of her in the time I have known her and were both pride | :15:42. | :15:48. | |
trading women but the Tories have got their second female Prime | :15:49. | :15:55. | |
Minister, goodness knows... 2-0! And for the party that is founded on the | :15:56. | :16:00. | |
basis of equality, I would agree, I would love a woman leader, but | :16:01. | :16:03. | |
equally I would love to see a feminist in Number 10 Downing St, I | :16:04. | :16:07. | |
don't believe we have that, Owen Smith is that person. Who is the | :16:08. | :16:15. | |
more left-wing? I am not sure. I would not say you cannot tell the | :16:16. | :16:18. | |
difference but what is happening in this debate is in many domestic | :16:19. | :16:23. | |
policy areas, there is not a huge mound of difference between members | :16:24. | :16:27. | |
of the Labour Party, I think myself, Harry, Lillian, we fundamentally | :16:28. | :16:33. | |
agree about the NHS in public hands, the railways in public hands and | :16:34. | :16:37. | |
that the basis of the economy should be about investment and not just | :16:38. | :16:41. | |
cuts. All of us are united on that and that is why we need a candidate | :16:42. | :16:45. | |
who can reach out across the party and bring us together. Barry | :16:46. | :16:50. | |
Gardiner, who would you support? Jeremy Corbyn? I am not supporting | :16:51. | :16:56. | |
or nominating anybody. You are members of the party. In the end, I | :16:57. | :17:02. | |
will have a vote. But I don't know. I will listen to the arguments as | :17:03. | :17:06. | |
they are made for the next couple of months and at the end of the day, I | :17:07. | :17:11. | |
will vote for whoever I think represents the best chance of us | :17:12. | :17:13. | |
getting a Labour government. There is an argument that I have heard | :17:14. | :17:20. | |
that is, you are saving the best candidates for the next leadership | :17:21. | :17:23. | |
election. These two are not the true a list. Lisa, you have been | :17:24. | :17:30. | |
mentioned as that! Why are you not running? Because I think that Owen | :17:31. | :17:36. | |
Smith is the best candidate and he asked me the same question and I | :17:37. | :17:40. | |
said that I think you should do this, you are the person to unite | :17:41. | :17:44. | |
this party and win the election and he would make an amazing Prime | :17:45. | :17:47. | |
Minister. You would support him, of all the other Labour MPs, you will | :17:48. | :17:52. | |
lose the next one and take one for the team... No, he is my top pick to | :17:53. | :17:59. | |
leave this party. Can you say the same thing about Angela Eagle? | :18:00. | :18:03. | |
Absolutely, there was no way I am writing off the next election, I | :18:04. | :18:07. | |
want to win the next election, that is why I am making the argument is, | :18:08. | :18:11. | |
the voters who put me in Westminster need a Labour government. And one | :18:12. | :18:17. | |
last quick one, there is a deal that only one of them can stand to beat | :18:18. | :18:21. | |
Jeremy Corbyn because it focuses the debate about one or the other rather | :18:22. | :18:27. | |
than some confused message? You cannot have two people standing on a | :18:28. | :18:31. | |
unity ticket and the truth is, both Angela and Owen Smith can reach out | :18:32. | :18:37. | |
to heal some of these divisions and unite the party and that is why we | :18:38. | :18:41. | |
need one of them going forward. Angela Will Pooley out? Everybody in | :18:42. | :18:46. | |
the Labour Party would like there to be one single candidate but it has | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
to be someone who can reach out to the Parliamentary party but unite | :18:52. | :18:54. | |
all of the wings of the party amongst the membership and I know | :18:55. | :18:57. | |
that Angela Eagle can do that but I have no doubt that Owen Smith could | :18:58. | :19:02. | |
also do that. -- Owen Smith. Thank you all. | :19:03. | :19:05. | |
Well, these are exceptional political times over here. | :19:06. | :19:07. | |
But they are also exceptional over in the US - the Republican National | :19:08. | :19:10. | |
Convention getting ready to crown Donald Trump this week | :19:11. | :19:12. | |
as its Presidential candidate in the election in November. | :19:13. | :19:15. | |
It's all happening over in Cleveland, Ohio. | :19:16. | :19:16. | |
Good evening. Almost ready, we should say. You join us from | :19:17. | :19:29. | |
Cleveland, Ohio, on a night of high drama - if we have learned one thing | :19:30. | :19:34. | |
about politics and the last month, is that predicted that he is dead | :19:35. | :19:38. | |
and tonight delegates have been trying to overturn the rules of the | :19:39. | :19:42. | |
convention that will secure Donald Trump that nomination. They have | :19:43. | :19:47. | |
been asking for a roll call to recognise every individual vote | :19:48. | :19:51. | |
rather than the block vote of each state, it is cognitive stuff but | :19:52. | :19:56. | |
essentially there is still an insurgency RFID. The Colorado | :19:57. | :20:00. | |
delegation which understand was walking out of you in protest in | :20:01. | :20:01. | |
response to this... In the opinion of the chair, | :20:02. | :20:07. | |
the ayes have it. APPLAUSE | :20:08. | :20:27. | |
If it sounds like the attempted coup has failed, we're hearing that the | :20:28. | :20:31. | |
Colorado delegation is going to try again. This is an embarrassing | :20:32. | :20:37. | |
moment for the self-styled law and order candidate, Donald Trump. And | :20:38. | :20:41. | |
the convention is set against a backdrop of disunity, not just here | :20:42. | :20:46. | |
but across the country as America reels from more racially motivated | :20:47. | :20:51. | |
killings. Donald Trump has called America and divided crime scene. Is | :20:52. | :20:54. | |
he the man to offer unity? We begin our report away | :20:55. | :20:57. | |
from the pomp and proceedure, on the dirt tracks of Trumbull | :20:58. | :21:00. | |
country. A Sunday afternoon spent bashing up | :21:01. | :21:03. | |
cars is a strangely, They call this Demolition DARby - | :21:04. | :21:08. | |
DURby, here - and it pulls in the mostly white crowds | :21:09. | :21:15. | |
from rural Ohio. You just take a regular | :21:16. | :21:19. | |
old American-made car and strip it down to the bare bones and you bring | :21:20. | :21:21. | |
it out here and you smash it and smash it until | :21:22. | :21:25. | |
there is nothing left. If it sounds like a metaphor | :21:26. | :21:28. | |
for what Donald Trump is doing to the Republican Party right now, | :21:29. | :21:31. | |
Democrats like Michael The convention begins today, | :21:32. | :21:33. | |
just a couple of It will probably be more of a wreck | :21:34. | :21:36. | |
than what you will see today! The Confederate flag, | :21:37. | :21:44. | |
a symbol of southern They will tell you it is about | :21:45. | :21:46. | |
pride, but it is a vestige of the country's civil war | :21:47. | :21:52. | |
and a reminder of the deep divisions Kyle here sees Donald | :21:53. | :21:55. | |
Trump as his Superman. And Superman, don't forget, fights | :21:56. | :22:00. | |
a never-ending battle for truth, I don't know much about | :22:01. | :22:03. | |
politics but I'll wing it! If you are an idiot | :22:04. | :22:11. | |
and you are screwing up America, he will tell you and | :22:12. | :22:16. | |
then will fix it. And, to be fair, America itself | :22:17. | :22:19. | |
is feeling pretty ANNOUNCER: Please give a warm | :22:20. | :22:21. | |
welcome to the chairman of the Republican National Committee - | :22:22. | :22:24. | |
Reince Priebus of Wisconsin. As the convention opened, | :22:25. | :22:30. | |
the committee chairman, Reince Priebus, welcomed | :22:31. | :22:33. | |
delegates with a brief Our nation grieves when we see | :22:34. | :22:35. | |
these awful killings. Will you join me in a moment | :22:36. | :22:41. | |
of silence? Outside, they find less | :22:42. | :22:44. | |
euphemistic ways of saying it. Donald Trump has looked | :22:45. | :22:53. | |
at the racial tension that has erupted in Baton Rouge, in Dallas, | :22:54. | :22:55. | |
in Ferguson and beyond, and called America | :22:56. | :22:58. | |
"a divided crime scene" - wilfully oblivious, perhaps, | :22:59. | :23:01. | |
of the effect his own language He points to Obama as the man | :23:02. | :23:03. | |
to blame for weakness and calls himself the candidate | :23:04. | :23:10. | |
for law and order. He is not helping to promote | :23:11. | :23:16. | |
dialogue between people. He is just trying to | :23:17. | :23:18. | |
promote more division. Do you think that racial tensions | :23:19. | :23:20. | |
in the country have got worse? I tell you what, | :23:21. | :23:23. | |
talking is over with. We want this and we want this, | :23:24. | :23:27. | |
do you know what I mean? What does that mean, | :23:28. | :23:31. | |
payback time is over? An eye for an eye and | :23:32. | :23:32. | |
a tooth for a tooth. The latest poll here for NBC gives | :23:33. | :23:35. | |
Donald Trump a stunning 0% support from black voters in Ohio, | :23:36. | :23:47. | |
a crucial electoral battleground that has picked the Presidential | :23:48. | :23:49. | |
winner the last 13 times. He is causing people who have | :23:50. | :23:54. | |
all this hate towards minorities and these other kinds of people that | :23:55. | :24:00. | |
aren't part of the majority, and everything he stands | :24:01. | :24:03. | |
for is causing them to rise up. Crime rates have actually declined | :24:04. | :24:08. | |
in recent years but Trump's invocation of law and order | :24:09. | :24:10. | |
and his message to the majority echoes another Republican leader | :24:11. | :24:14. | |
at a time of historic unrest. "The silent majority" was a phrase | :24:15. | :24:20. | |
first used by Nixon in 1960s to speak to those who didn't protest | :24:21. | :24:25. | |
the Vietnam War, but it quickly became a rallying call to white | :24:26. | :24:29. | |
conservatives amidst the black It appealed to those who felt left | :24:30. | :24:31. | |
behind, dispossessed by a perceived threat | :24:32. | :24:38. | |
to their way of life. And crucially - then, as now - | :24:39. | :24:41. | |
the language pitting minority Trump has adapted his slogan today | :24:42. | :24:44. | |
to "Make America Safe Again". And there will be plenty more | :24:45. | :24:57. | |
than happy to come For all those who worry | :24:58. | :24:59. | |
about the mud-flinging, there are plenty more | :25:00. | :25:03. | |
who appreciate his rhetoric At a time when few of those in power | :25:04. | :25:05. | |
seem to offer tangible solutions, they see a man unafraid to call it | :25:06. | :25:11. | |
as it is and think it is time that someone, somewhere came | :25:12. | :25:15. | |
to clear up the mess. Emily in Ohio and she will be | :25:16. | :25:27. | |
reporting from the convention throughout the week. | :25:28. | :25:30. | |
If you wanted to be proud of any modern British company, | :25:31. | :25:32. | |
you probably couldn't select a better one than ARM | :25:33. | :25:35. | |
It doesn't make anything, but it is the brains behind | :25:36. | :25:38. | |
the chips that power the smartphones we all buy; and in fact, | :25:39. | :25:42. | |
its chips are in many other devices, too. | :25:43. | :25:44. | |
It designs them and gets a few pence every time one is sold. | :25:45. | :25:47. | |
And fortunately for ARM, billions are sold each year. | :25:48. | :25:49. | |
The A in ARM, by the way, once stood for Acorn, | :25:50. | :25:52. | |
for those who remember those early days of Acorn Computers. | :25:53. | :25:57. | |
So should we worry that ARM may soon be part of a large Japanese group? | :25:58. | :26:02. | |
Here's our business editor, Helen Thomas. | :26:03. | :26:05. | |
You may not immediately recognise the name ARM Holdings, | :26:06. | :26:09. | |
but the UK's biggest technology company has a hand in almost | :26:10. | :26:12. | |
ARM's chip designs underpin the technology in about 95% | :26:13. | :26:18. | |
of the smartphones sold globally last year. | :26:19. | :26:23. | |
From its start in Cambridge with just 12 engineers in 1990, | :26:24. | :26:26. | |
ARM has grown at speed and its sales have nearly doubled in the past five | :26:27. | :26:30. | |
years and quadrupled over the past decade. | :26:31. | :26:33. | |
But the company makes only a tiny sliver of its revenues | :26:34. | :26:35. | |
Its biggest customers are overseas technology companies based | :26:36. | :26:41. | |
in places like the US, China and Taiwan. | :26:42. | :26:46. | |
That global dominance caught the eye of Japan's SoftBank, a telecoms | :26:47. | :26:49. | |
They're betting ?24 billion that ARM can replicate its dominance | :26:50. | :26:57. | |
in smartphones in what's called the Internet of Things - | :26:58. | :27:01. | |
connecting up physical devices from buildings and to household | :27:02. | :27:04. | |
appliances so they can talk to each other. | :27:05. | :27:09. | |
So, should SoftBank's interest be welcomed or is this another | :27:10. | :27:11. | |
example of a home-grown champion going overseas? | :27:12. | :27:17. | |
Theresa May has struck a cautious note on foreign takeovers | :27:18. | :27:19. | |
but today her new Chancellor of the Exchequer gave | :27:20. | :27:21. | |
The fact that a Japanese company, just three weeks after | :27:22. | :27:27. | |
the referendum decision, is prepared to make this kind | :27:28. | :27:34. | |
of commitment to the UK and commit to grow that kind | :27:35. | :27:37. | |
of business here in the UK, is a resounding endorsement | :27:38. | :27:39. | |
of the resilience of the British economy. | :27:40. | :27:41. | |
One of ARM's founders, at least, reckons it's too soon to say | :27:42. | :27:44. | |
whether a takeover by SoftBank should be mourned or celebrated. | :27:45. | :27:48. | |
To me, in this Internet of Things idea, there are things that ARM | :27:49. | :27:54. | |
is doing and things that SoftBank is doing and if you can put those | :27:55. | :27:57. | |
two ideas together and make them bigger and better and move | :27:58. | :28:00. | |
If you do it appallingly, it's the opposite of a win, | :28:01. | :28:04. | |
One source of comfort should be a series of SoftBank guarantees. | :28:05. | :28:09. | |
The Japanese company has pledged to double ARM's UK workforce over | :28:10. | :28:12. | |
And to keep its headquarters in Cambridge. | :28:13. | :28:17. | |
ARM's business isn't linked to the UK economy. | :28:18. | :28:20. | |
You could hardly find a more international business. | :28:21. | :28:23. | |
But SoftBank says it wants to invest, not cut, | :28:24. | :28:25. | |
and it wants to use this country as a base for innovation. | :28:26. | :28:30. | |
But this is the first time these kinds of legally enforceable | :28:31. | :28:34. | |
pledges have been used in a large UK takeover, | :28:35. | :28:38. | |
so who, in five years' time, is going to aggressively enforce | :28:39. | :28:41. | |
One concern is that UK companies may be snapped up by buyers taking | :28:42. | :28:52. | |
But ARM's strong share price performance since the vote to leave | :28:53. | :29:00. | |
the EU, plus a hefty price tag, means SoftBank isn't exactly | :29:01. | :29:03. | |
ARM's founding CEO has another worry about what Brexit means | :29:04. | :29:07. | |
We started in the UK, which happens to be in Europe | :29:08. | :29:11. | |
and there is European funding available in | :29:12. | :29:15. | |
a collaborative programme called the Open Microprocessors Systems | :29:16. | :29:17. | |
Initiative that made a huge contribution to the early | :29:18. | :29:19. | |
If we cast off from Europe, the UK isn't going to have that advantage. | :29:20. | :29:25. | |
I hope the government can keep that onside in whatever | :29:26. | :29:28. | |
With the takeover of ARM, the UK-listed tech sector | :29:29. | :29:32. | |
is losing not just a limb, but its backbone. | :29:33. | :29:34. | |
The UK's latest crop of start-ups could face new challenges getting | :29:35. | :29:37. | |
to the head of the pack in global tech. | :29:38. | :29:45. | |
Hermann Hauser was one of the founders of ARM and joins us | :29:46. | :29:47. | |
Good evening. You said this is one of the saddest days of your life. | :29:48. | :30:00. | |
Let me push you on wire. The company have said that they will preserve | :30:01. | :30:03. | |
ARM in Cambridge, keep the management, doubling the UK | :30:04. | :30:09. | |
headcount, so why are you so sad about it being bought by the | :30:10. | :30:13. | |
Japanese? ARM has been the greatest achievement in my life and the | :30:14. | :30:17. | |
reason I'm sad, not just for myself but technology in Britain, the next | :30:18. | :30:23. | |
generation of the architecture of smartphones but more importantly the | :30:24. | :30:28. | |
upcoming architecture of the Internet of things, which is going | :30:29. | :30:31. | |
to be a wave that is much larger than the smartphone waves, will | :30:32. | :30:36. | |
ultimately be designed in Japan and not the UK. What did you think of | :30:37. | :30:40. | |
Philip Hammond's comments, you probably heard them, that this is a | :30:41. | :30:48. | |
vote of confidence in Britain after Brexit? He's putting a brave face on | :30:49. | :30:52. | |
the fact that we've lost the one remaining high technology company | :30:53. | :30:55. | |
that has a global footprints. 15 billion ARMs sold last year, a high | :30:56. | :31:02. | |
percentage of the phones and there is no other UK tech company that has | :31:03. | :31:08. | |
that kind of global reach. More importantly, ARM can be the key | :31:09. | :31:13. | |
building block of putting an industrial strategy together for the | :31:14. | :31:17. | |
UK in the Internet of things. Tell me, if you were designing policy, if | :31:18. | :31:22. | |
Philip Hammond or Greg Clark, the new industry Minister was sitting | :31:23. | :31:26. | |
with you, what would you say they should do? I'm not thinking you want | :31:27. | :31:30. | |
the government to decide who owns what. Generally people think there | :31:31. | :31:38. | |
is room for a market in corporate control, so what would you like the | :31:39. | :31:43. | |
government to do? I was delighted to hear Theresa May in her speech in | :31:44. | :31:49. | |
front of number ten saying that industrial strategy is something | :31:50. | :31:53. | |
that she will support. The Internet of things is just happening right | :31:54. | :32:01. | |
now. The basic rules about how we build on top of the basic hardware, | :32:02. | :32:06. | |
which is already all ARM -based, so we've almost all won that basis of | :32:07. | :32:13. | |
the building blocks, what is needed now is the higher layers, the cyber | :32:14. | :32:18. | |
Security and most importantly, who owns the data? What would you like | :32:19. | :32:23. | |
the government to do? Would you like them to veto it and save sorry, even | :32:24. | :32:27. | |
though the management say that you should be able to buy it, | :32:28. | :32:33. | |
shareholders don't want to stop it, the government should say that it | :32:34. | :32:37. | |
cannot be bought and sold by the Japanese? I think it's too late for | :32:38. | :32:41. | |
that. Theresa May might introduce something like a golden share, for | :32:42. | :32:45. | |
the really strategically important companies in the future but for ARM, | :32:46. | :32:50. | |
this is too late. But you would like such a system? Let's face it, many | :32:51. | :32:54. | |
other countries intervened more than we do. AstraZeneca, a good example, | :32:55. | :33:00. | |
Obama basically blocked it, we didn't. Astra Zeneca is one of those | :33:01. | :33:08. | |
key companies. They played the leadership role in Cambridge and ARM | :33:09. | :33:11. | |
could do it the same in the tech sector. Do you think that we are | :33:12. | :33:16. | |
selling the company to cheaply? If you had ?25 billion, would you say | :33:17. | :33:22. | |
that the Japanese are getting it to cheaply, I will make a bigger bid | :33:23. | :33:25. | |
for the company because it is worth more? Absolutely. I think ARM is at | :33:26. | :33:32. | |
the centre of the next generation of the next wave of computing. I hear | :33:33. | :33:37. | |
talk about the six waves of computing and every new brave is | :33:38. | :33:40. | |
bigger than the previous one. We are in the middle of the smartphone | :33:41. | :33:44. | |
waves but the next one, everything being connected and there is a | :33:45. | :33:49. | |
simple interface for these things which will be connected through | :33:50. | :33:53. | |
voice. This will be so much bigger than the smartphones and we have an | :33:54. | :33:58. | |
opportunity to define the basic architecture of it. But if the | :33:59. | :34:04. | |
Japanese are paying too little, why was the share price so much lower | :34:05. | :34:09. | |
until they made the offer? Well, because sadly there are very few | :34:10. | :34:15. | |
people who seek the opportunity in the Internet of things and have the | :34:16. | :34:24. | |
money to pay the price, the premium, which is good, but not fantastic. | :34:25. | :34:30. | |
40%. Taking a gamble and reaping the benefits, as they well. Thank you | :34:31. | :34:31. | |
for joining us. What a strange Friday night- | :34:32. | :34:36. | |
Saturday morning it was in Turkey. A coup that collapsed | :34:37. | :34:39. | |
within 14 hours. It caused deaths in the hundreds | :34:40. | :34:41. | |
and did almost the exact opposite of what its leaders had set out | :34:42. | :34:44. | |
to achieve, in that it appears to have strengthened the position | :34:45. | :34:47. | |
of President Erdogan and given him a pretext for a clampdown | :34:48. | :34:51. | |
on opponents. Turkey, in the aftermath | :34:52. | :34:55. | |
of the coup, is a turbulent place. Now it matters to us | :34:56. | :34:58. | |
for four reasons: It's applying to join, | :34:59. | :35:00. | |
although membership looks more The Syrian civil war and Isis, it's | :35:01. | :35:05. | |
an important player in events there. And migrants, Turkey | :35:06. | :35:13. | |
is relieving pressure on Greece. Then there is also the fact | :35:14. | :35:15. | |
that the last thing anyone needs is for more instability | :35:16. | :35:18. | |
in that neighbourhood. Our diplomatic editor Mark Urban | :35:19. | :35:19. | |
managed to get to Ankara on Sunday, Plenty of lives have been smashed | :35:20. | :35:22. | |
here in the last few days. At Kocatepe Mosque, | :35:23. | :35:36. | |
relatives of eight policemen killed on Friday | :35:37. | :35:39. | |
attended their funeral. At this moment of national crisis, | :35:40. | :35:41. | |
those already bereaved are voiced the hope that it | :35:42. | :35:49. | |
will not claim more lives. TRANSLATION: My child | :35:50. | :35:52. | |
was 19 years old. Phalanxes of police | :35:53. | :35:55. | |
were on hand and hundreds of supporters of President | :35:56. | :36:06. | |
Erdogan's ruling party. But the public at large | :36:07. | :36:11. | |
have been held back. The trouble may not be over | :36:12. | :36:15. | |
and in waves of arrests, Turkey's leader has | :36:16. | :36:18. | |
called into question the loytalty of big parts | :36:19. | :36:20. | |
of In the aftermath of the coup, | :36:21. | :36:21. | |
President Erdogan and his supporters, in the police | :36:22. | :36:29. | |
and elsewhere, want revenge. They are cracking down | :36:30. | :36:31. | |
on what they call Already nearly 6,000 | :36:32. | :36:33. | |
people have been arrested. The response has | :36:34. | :36:40. | |
been swift and hard. These chiefs from military | :36:41. | :36:43. | |
intelligence, accused of being plotters, bandaged and uttered | :36:44. | :36:47. | |
and paraded this morning. so-called Gulenist network, | :36:48. | :36:51. | |
sympathisers of exiled Islamist But the scale of arrests prompts | :36:52. | :36:56. | |
opposition scepticism. That's why it's a big | :36:57. | :37:05. | |
question over this executive order, expelling all | :37:06. | :37:14. | |
of them, from the army, from the police, from | :37:15. | :37:18. | |
So this is an extraordinary situation. | :37:19. | :37:21. | |
At Ankara's police HQ, evidence of how | :37:22. | :37:24. | |
The coup plotters attacked it first with a | :37:25. | :37:30. | |
helicopter, then bombed it from a jet fighter before | :37:31. | :37:33. | |
While all the time, police inside held out. | :37:34. | :37:38. | |
What triggered the coup, and how could | :37:39. | :37:42. | |
the thousands of judges, army people and police now arrested | :37:43. | :37:47. | |
or dismissed already be found guilty by association? | :37:48. | :37:52. | |
The list for a crackdown had already been prepared, | :37:53. | :37:56. | |
a senior government MP has confirmed to Newsnight. | :37:57. | :38:06. | |
TRANSLATION: We were getting ready for them. | :38:07. | :38:09. | |
We have been gathering evidence against them for | :38:10. | :38:11. | |
All the political parties want to fight this | :38:12. | :38:17. | |
Parliament was also hammered by the plotters. | :38:18. | :38:28. | |
On Friday, supporters of | :38:29. | :38:32. | |
all parties united in opposition to the coup, but now the governing | :38:33. | :38:36. | |
party, with its explanation of the conspiracies it's | :38:37. | :38:39. | |
thwarted, seeks to reap all the political rewards. | :38:40. | :38:42. | |
Having struck so many institutions of the | :38:43. | :38:46. | |
Turkish state and of course the parliament itself, | :38:47. | :38:49. | |
it's rather hard to see the plotters as acting in any | :38:50. | :38:52. | |
The opposition united against them and many Turks seem ready to accept | :38:53. | :38:59. | |
the government line that these plotters were members of a secret | :39:00. | :39:03. | |
sect, a parallel structure, the Gulenist movement. | :39:04. | :39:09. | |
But how credible is it that thousands of soldiers and | :39:10. | :39:13. | |
police, as well as a big slice of the high command, would support a | :39:14. | :39:17. | |
The opposition accuse Erdogan of finding | :39:18. | :39:22. | |
a pretext for a wholesale clear out of anyone suspected of disloyalty. | :39:23. | :39:28. | |
He is the one polarising society, dividing the society. | :39:29. | :39:34. | |
Using the half of the population in his own | :39:35. | :39:40. | |
policies' favour and the rest are feeling excluded, second-class | :39:41. | :39:44. | |
At the funeral of Ankara police killed on Friday, Erdogan | :39:45. | :39:57. | |
supporters in the crowd chanted for the plotters to get the death | :39:58. | :39:59. | |
Though a senior member of his party has told us it won't happen and that | :40:00. | :40:04. | |
evidence of the Gulen movement's role in the coup will be | :40:05. | :40:07. | |
TRANSLATION: We are patient but our patience has run out. | :40:08. | :40:21. | |
Everything we do, we will do legally. | :40:22. | :40:26. | |
In the aftermath of what many Turks are calling the Event, | :40:27. | :40:28. | |
the country's rulers seek to channel their supporters' righteous anger. | :40:29. | :40:31. | |
But while the wider Turkish public or foreigners might question the | :40:32. | :40:36. | |
government's rubric that the purge is now | :40:37. | :40:38. | |
coup, Erdogan's people are determined to seize their moment. | :40:39. | :40:49. | |
Did we tell you about what's happening on Saturday, the 23rd of | :40:50. | :40:53. | |
July? The British people have spoken | :40:54. | :40:55. | |
and the answer is, we're out. I love this country and I feel | :40:56. | :40:58. | |
honoured to have served it. A political landscape | :40:59. | :41:06. | |
changed for ever. I know that virtually none | :41:07. | :41:09. | |
of you have ever done The Scottish parliament | :41:10. | :41:12. | |
should have the right Exactly one month after | :41:13. | :41:23. | |
the UK's momentous vote... Brexit means Brexit, | :41:24. | :41:29. | |
and we're going to make a success ..Newsnight hosts a special day | :41:30. | :41:31. | |
of discussion and debate on Brexit A divided nation | :41:32. | :41:37. | |
and its relationship Tickets for this event, to be held | :41:38. | :41:42. | |
at the Royal Geographical Society in London, are available | :41:43. | :41:48. | |
on the Newsnight website. And we'll be live on BBC | :41:49. | :41:52. | |
Two, 6pm on Saturday. What better can you do on a summer | :41:53. | :42:00. | |
weekend? You may have been mystified this | :42:01. | :42:03. | |
weekend by all the people wondering the streets doing the | :42:04. | :42:08. | |
Pokemon phone thing. So, courtesy of the Useless Duck | :42:09. | :42:10. | |
Company, here's our ongoing series, Tonight, | :42:11. | :42:12. | |
"Part 1 - How to Throw a Pokeball". Monday was the hottest day of the | :42:13. | :42:37. | |
year so far with 30 degrees in London. We are going to break that | :42:38. | :42:40. | |
by several degrees | :42:41. | :42:41. |