03/04/2017 Newsnight


With Kirsty Wark. An exclusive interview with Obama's CIA director, John Brennan. Plus, the latest on the Russia terror attack, the new diesel tax and Darcus Howe.

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Tonight, an exclusive interview with John Brennan,


the head of the CIA, until Donald Trump


What does he think of the presidential Twitter strategy?


I think that there are some things that have been tweeted coming out of


Washington, where the care was not taken and that was, it was not, the


individual who tweeted it was not mindful of the importance that


people attach to the words of a president.


He warns about the dangers of America going it alone


against North Korea and tells us there should be a competency


-- and decries Trump's plans for a travel ban.


The St Petersburg blast, which has killed as many as ten people


The Russian Prime minister is nvestigating a suicide bombing.


We'll ask who is the prime suspect in a country with no


We remember the civil rights ( activist Darcus Howe.


I believe that we are faced with a serious potential, that is the


overwhelming intervention of blacks on the current stage of history in


Britain. And the war on airborne


Deisel particulates. The Mayor of London is expected


to announce tomorrow morning a toxin tax on the fuel,


forcing drivers to pay In the studio, a former Top Gear


presenter says it's all nonsense. Friends of the Earth


says it's about time. He was Barack Obama's head


of the CIA - in the situation room -- he departed office the day Donald


Trump became president. John Brennan will deliver


the Dimbleby Lecture on BBC One tomorrow night,


but tonight, he talks to Newsnight about the threat from North Korea,


and whether Donald Trump's promise of US unilateral action is wise


if China will not help. He is scathing about the president's


proposed ban on travellers from certain Muslim countries,


and he told us the Trump White House notion of a deep state -


including the intelligence agencies I began by asking him


if President Trump was right to say that if China won't solve the issue


of North Korea, America will do. North Korea does pose a very serious


challenge for The Asian region and for the world because of its


continued march on a nuclear weapons programme. China holds a lot of sway


with North Korea. I think it's critically important for the United


States to continue and to deepen the discussion with China about how best


to manage this North Korean challenge. But the North Korean


issue is a complicated and complex one. It doesn't lend itself to


simple solutions. There's no the a simple military solution to it,


given that North Korea has a tremendous amount of fire power,


artillery that could rain down on Seoul, if there was going to be


military action. So I am just hoping that Mr Trump and his advisors have


spent the last couple months really learning and understanding what the


challenge is, what the implications are of certain policy courses. This


is something that requires a very thoughtful and measure add preach.


President Trump says that using the term "radical Islamic terrorism"


will help win the US win the War on Terror, do you agree? No, I don't. A


lot of people say that. When you refer to the terrorists as following


radical Islam, it legitimises the terrorists, in terms that they're


actually carrying out a legitimate tenant of the Islamic faith and


they're not. Do you think that Donald Trump's proposed ban on


several Muslim majority countries would make America safer? I think


it's very important that there be measures taken to protect countries


from individuals who may be trying to enter the borders for terrorist


purposes. This proposed executive order really, I think, was too


simplistic and misguided. Do you think it would be counterproductive?


I do. Because first of all, a lot of citizens from those countries, who


have very legitimate reason to travel to the United States, family,


personal, professional, educational. I think they will really see this as


reflecting a different approach and a different tone from the United


States, which has prided itself over our 241 years welcoming people from


all walks of life in all countries and to me, I think they're going to


see it as profiling specifically nationalities. US intelligence is


suggesting that WikiLeaks are helping the Russiansment do you


think Julian Assange is unwittingly being used by the Russians? He may


be unwittingly being used by the Russians but I think he's wittingly


advancing Russian interests and making sure that their objectives


and goals and agendas are being pursued. Maybe he is naive enough or


uninformed enough that he is being duped by the Russians. I think he is


well aware that he is a pawn in their hands. Why do you think Donald


Trump's so well disposed to Vladimir Putin? You'd have to ask him. Have


you actually seen evidence that the Russians have been compromising


material, for example, what the Russians call compromat on Trump for


example. There are active investigations about Russian


involvement in the last presidential election. There are two


investigations in the Congress as well as FBI investigations. I am


going to leave to them to make determinations about what the


Russians did or what they might have. Actually when Trump says only


the fake news media think his team were included with Russia. Clearly


you're not ruling this out either. These are ongoing investigations.


Just like the chairman of the Senate intelligence committee, involved in


the investigation, said it would be premature at this time to make any


determination or rule anything out. The British Home Secretary said that


the Government should be given access to what's April, another end


to -- what's app, an encryption service. Do you think she's right?


There needs to be a way for the Government to work with these


companies, such as what's app, so the Government can carry out its


responsibilities to protect society and to carry out the rule of law.


When there are these very sophisticated technologies it really


impedes the Government's ability to protect its citizens. The lecture


you're giving tomorrow you're saying clearly that you're concerned about


the pretense of some poll -- competence of some politicians to


enter positions of authorities that don't have the skills for carrying


out their solemn governmental responsibility with competence,


integrity and efficacy. Who are you thinking of? I can think of a lot of


government leaders around the world who arrive in those positions


without the needed experience, the needed knowledge to carry out these


responsibilities in a very complicated world. You talk about a


variety of people you might, the kinds of people that you might be


talking about. You said if this person came from, even in an


unrelated celebrity inducing field. I mean you're being coy. You're


talking about Donald Trump, aren't you? I am expressing my views and


concerns about how important these government positions and leadership


positions are and how we as societies need to have confidence


that the individuals who have such power and authority are up to the


task. Was Donald Trump right to tweet his accusation that President


Obama wiretapped him before the election, was he right to say that?


I guess a president can say whatever he wants, particularly one that


tweets. I think that there is a solemn obligation on the part of an


individual, such as the president, to tweet or to message information


that is accurate, that is - that is measured and that is not just a


spontaneous or impulsive number of words that they're trying to say. I


think that there are some things that have been tweeted, coming out


of Washington, where the care was not taken and the individual who


tweet today was not mindful of the importance that people attach to the


words of a president. Donald Trump would say that the real story that's


going on, what's going on just now, is leaks for the intelligence


community not the team's alleged links with Russia, is he right? He


is certainly right that these leaks are appalling. They need to stop.


Any unauthorised disclosure of classified information is something


that needs to be addressed. One of Donald Trump's first outings when he


became president was to make a speech in front of the CIA memorial.


He talked about his disputed inauguration attendance figures


rather than actually paying tribute to the CIA agents who had fallen in


the course of duty. What went through your mind when you saw that?


That wall of honour is hallowed ground for the agency. I know many


of the individuals who are represented on that wall with those


stars. So, when I saw Mr Trump up there, talking about politics, it


really struck a nerve and it was not just my nerve that was struck. Many


of my colleagues, former and current employees of the CIA, felt that was


something that should not have taken place. I felt I had to give voice to


the concerns of agency officers, which I did. Because you criticised


Donald Trump for comparing Intel agencies to Nazi Germany. I wonder


how that was received by the intelligence agency, not what you


said, what he said. The intelligence professionals at CIA and other parts


of the community take great pride in their work. They don't do it for


public ack La mags or ticker tape parades -- acclamation. They do it


silently and most times their great work is never known. When there is


criticism and baseless criticism and imPuning the integrity, the mission


of intelligence officers, yeah, intelligence officers take up bridge


at that. -- umbridge. The White House all but accused GCHQ of


helping President Obama wiretap Donald Trump. I mean, was that


justified? Did it damage the five eyes alliance? Again, there are a


lot of things that have been said and tweeted and whatever that I just


- I am mystified over. As to why they were done. If at the end of


these investigations, into the leaks, it is found that there has


been leaks by CIA officers themselves, they will undermine


their own organisation. They will undermine the organisation that


you've served for all these years, if that's found to be the case.


Anybody who releases classified information, whether it be to a


foreign intelligence service or to the media, to me, is carrying out a


treasonous act against their country. They should be held to


account. There have been instances where CIA officers in the past, just


like British intelligence officers of the past, have gone bad. The deep


state. Well, no. These are individuals who have violated their


Oath of Office. You don't believe in the deep state? I do not, absolutely


not. That's ridiculous that there's a deep state trying to undermine


either the credibility of the presidency or is trying to pursue


other policies. That's what Donald Trump and Steve Bannon thinks.


Anybody who thinks there is a deep state and the CIA is part of it in


the US government is delusional. Thank you very much indeed. Thank


you very much. The former Director of the CIA


talking to me this afternoon. We'll put up the whole of that


interview with John Brennan on Newsnight's YouTube


channel later on. And you can see his Richard Dimbleby


Lecture on BBC One tomorrow night. At 2.30pm in Russia's second city,


a suspected bomb detonated on a metro train, killing at least


ten people and injuring many more. St Petersburg is Vladimir Putin's


home town, and tonight he laid Russia is used to terror attacks by


Chechen separatists. But the country's involvement in Syria has


also brought threats from IS propaganda groups.


Here's John Sweeney with what we know, and a warning


that his film does contain some upsetting images.


The fog of terror in St Petersburg metro today.


The bomb packed with shrapnel was powerful enough


This is the moment passengers struggled to escape


Long before the authorities arrived, passengers did their best


11 dead, 50 injured and little clarity on the big questions.


A bomb on the tube train travelling between Sennaya Ploshchad


and Tekhnologichesky Institut stations, exploded.


Another device was defused at a nearby station.


Relatives were desperate to hear news from the missing.


TRANSLATION: She was supposed to have left school by three


I talked to a couple of witnesses who were more or less OK,


They said that people were trying to help each other,


to get out of this hell as fast as possible.


Terror attacks against ordinary people on tubes, trains and planes


Feeding conspiracy theories but the Kremlin itself might be


Feeding conspiracy theories that the Kremlin itself might be


But the most likely culprits are attackers


My immediate suspicion is to look towards Islamist networks


these sort of attacks in Russia, against public transport in this


sort of co-ordinated fashion, it would seem insting stingtively


you would see the attack being linked in that direction.


Vladimir Putin is fighting wars in Syria and Ukraine.


Blood is being spilt in Russia's always troubled


And one pro Kremlin voice even pointed the finger


at anti-corruption protestors, but tonight law enforcement sources


said that a suicide bomber was responsible, who could have


links to radical Islamist groups banned in Republican.


This is how the master of the Kremlin responded.


TRANSLATION: Law enforcement bodies and special services are working,


and will do all they can in order to find out the cause


But Putin has built his reputation on being the guarantor


an attack while he was in the city, an attack on public transport,


in a sort of multiple potential devices in this co-ordinated way


suggests a dramatic security failure which ultimately will be seen


Tonight, while what drove the killer to commit 24


atrocity remains unclear, ordinary people are yet again


Oksana Antonenko is a Russia expert at the London School of Economics.


Good evening. From what you know and what we are saying here, there are a


number of different possibilities. The Russian Government says it is


investigating a suicide bombing. What do you think might have


happened? First of all let me start by expressing my deepest condolences


to everybody affected. It was a well planned and orchestrated attack,


which was aimed at inflicting the largest possible damage for the


civilians, in fact this metro station is very close to number of


Russian universities, and the time of the bomb coincided with the time


and the lectures finished at the university and the students were


going home. So it was very well planned and executed and the fact


that the second bomb was found at another station, reportedly


concealed as a fire extinguisher shows it wasn't just a lone suicide


bomber, it was a very well orchestrated and well researched and


co-ordinated attack, therefore, it is clearly, work of an organisation


at least several people than it is just a lone extremist. There are of


course several theories, most point to links with IS. It could be some


Russian nationals or even nationals from central Asia who were fighting


in Syria, on the side of IS. The estimates indicate round 10,000 or


more Russians were fighting in Syria, and probably round 4-6,000


central Asians who were many radicalised during their time in


Russia, as migrants, working in Russia. The second potential herery


and that someone is seriously investigated at the moment, that it


is linked to the indigenous IS linked groups within Russia, in


fact, terrorism in Russia has been continuing, now, for a while. Last


year, alone, in the knot Caucasus 200 Russian law enforcement


personnel and civilians were killed in the IS linked attacks and just a


few days ago, on 24th March, there was a very large attack outside of,


at the National Guard, again organised by the IS linked local


group, so leer clearly we have a large network of IS affiliated


groups. But it would be fair to say recently in the Caucasus


particularly these have been bombs in less populated area, areas that


do not attract so much media attention, this presumably on the


day that Vladimir Putin was there to meet the President of Belarus, this


was timed to make the maximum impact abroad? Well, not only abroad. It is


to make the maximum impact on Russia itself. Russia of course is entering


the Presidential election campaign, it is a time when the politics I


again, coming to the forefront, I think we are seen the protests


recently, and it is really something which is aimed in my view, mostly at


the domestic audience. I think one perhaps big question of whether it


is really an IS affiliated attack is no-one has claimed the


responsibility for this attack. Usually IS, in, declares that


responsibility. Tell me though, Vladimir Putin, you know, it will be


laid at his door, the commentators said in the film, because he see


himself as a strong man, the idea is he going to going to keep Russia


safe, how destabilising will this be? During those kind of attacks the


nation usually rallies round the flag. I don't think it will be, if


it is just one attack, it is not going to be something which is going


to undermine I think Putin's very high popularity rating. If on the


other hand we are present at the beginning of another campaign and we


remember in the mid 2000s there were bombs going on in the transport


system. In Russia almost on a weekly basis and clearly they are still


going, as I mentioned in the north Caucasus and can be in other parts


of Russia, then, of course, we will see much more I think tensions


building up before the election campaign, but I think one terrorist


attack is not going to be in my view very damaging to Putin but other --


rather will strengthen his popularity. Thank you for joining


Time was when Co2 emissions were the main target for Government


action on the environment, but if the expected announcement


tomorrow by the Mayor of London is anything to go by,


the focus has swung hard to nitrogen oxides - or noxes -


Siddiq Khan looks like he's going to announce that he is fast


forwarding a toxin tax on diesel cars in the city, and other towns


and cities in England are expected to follow suit.


Naysayers insist that diesel cars only make up 10%


Campaigners retort that the other polluters aren't at ground level


Air pollution, a problem that refuses to fade.


Its stench has lingered far too long in the UK.


The Government attributes 40,000 premature deaths a year to it.


And it wants to be seen to be doing something about it.


The government will publish its plans in a couple of week, according


to the Sunday Times I will clamp-down on diesel vehicle, a


toxin tax could be charged, in the ten worst affected, diesel cars as


well as commercial vehicles could be banned during peak hours.


We have had a government that has simply rested on giving advice to


people to stay at home when air pollution is high, that is nowhere


near good enough, we need much more proactive action when it comes to


tax tackling air pollution at source. Air pollution, let us


remember is not only responsible for many thousands of premature deaths


but also costing the economy anywhere up to ?20 billion in terms


of ill health and so forth. So we do need action like low-emission zones,


we need the Government to step up, just as many Governments are already


doing across the rest of the world. Tell me what this is? A poster about


air pollution. Yeah? And to stop the dust getting in the air, so


healthier life for all of us. I like that. The Mayor of London recently


introduced a new ?10 toxicity charge, dubbed the T charge. It is


reported that tomorrow, he will announce a charge of 12.50 for every


polluting vehicle entering any part of Greater London. Not just the


centre of the the city. London is one of the worst affected areas in


the UK by air pollution. Here on Oxford Street, the limits for


nitrous dioxide were breached 16 times last year, that is 150 more


than is allowed. Now transport accounts for 80% of


the UK's total nitrous oxide emissions by the roadside. Diesel


engines emitt on average more than petrol and that is why the


Government is so keen to reduce their use, especially in spins.


Testify Nearly one in two new cars bought last year were diesel. They


are seen as more economical and when it comes to carbon dioxide emissions


less harmful. However in recent years studies have focus on nigh


rows oxide as more harmful. It is confusing. Volkswagen was found


guilty of falsifying emissions data on its diesel vehicles, pretending


they were cleaner than they were. That was for its laboratory tests,


however, now there is doubts being cast over the value of tests done by


all auto makers in a controlled environment. A UK Government study


compared laboratory test results with the actual performance of


vehicles on the road. The dotted line shows the emissions target,


which the vehicles met under laboratory test conditions. The bars


show that all models emitted more nitrous oxides on the road. On


average the readings were six times worse.


So how can drivers be deterred from diesel? A tax is another way of


trying to tackle emissions from diesel car, they can be applied


nationally, with more flexibility and they can also be a revenue


generator to invest in low-emission transport, including public


transport, low-emissions buses and active transport such as walking and


cycling. Road vehicles are not responsible for the majority of


diesel emission, some are report suggest they contribute to just 10%.


15 of the biggest cargo ships currently pollute more nitrogen and


sull for ox IEDses than all the world's cars put together. Aircraft


emissions are still rising. Regulations are being tightened for


them but travellers on the road are likely to feel the pinch first.


The motor journalist and former Top Gear presenter


Alongside, Oliver Hayes, the lead air pollution campaigner


The diesel is a killers it has to be stopped. Nobody is talking about


what the real pollutants are. Defra said that PM 10, 2.5, the ultra fine


particles, 73% of that pollution comes from what is known as


commercial public and residential combustion, that is burning wood. So


you have got this 10% of cars, that are producing this tiny sliver of


pollution, and nobody is doing anything about these pollutants that


are add pedestrian level. So it is an easy target, where you are


hitting peep who are trying to do their best because they were told


that new diesel cars were environmentally-friendly. When we


talk about air pollution, what we are talking about is children


growing up with smaller lungs. We are talking about people having


worsen asthma symptoms and changes in the brain associated with


Alzheimer's. Would you rather not go after the cargo ship, the aircraft,


than going after 10% which is cars. I think as your introduction made


clear, what is crucial is where the pollution takes place, now, most of


us, don't live near a big chimney or next to a big cargo ship but most of


us do live near a road and that is why road transport is the biggest


problem, diesel vehicles are the worse of all. The Government is


clear on that. It is true if you take to Oxford Street, the amount of


breaches in one year is phenomenal. 260 buses an hour on Oxford Street.


That is your problem. With respect, nobody is talking about ship,s, that


is 80% of background pollution. Nobody is talking about rail. Ground


machinery, digger, road roller, 14% of background pollution, nobody is


talking about this. Instead as always we demonise the diesel drive.


It was that 1998 budget that Gordon Brown brought in that did the 3


pence cut in diesel, and Greenpeace were advising and Friends of the


Earth was advising Gordon Brown for that. So, this is the unintended


consequence. That is not true. We were saying clearly in 1999 and 2000


we were not advising diesel cars because of the clear health


pollutant. How do you help people? These are people who perhaps have a


small family car, they have bought it thinking it is


environmentally-friendly. They have to drive to get to work, a lot of


these marginal seats around cities and commuter, the Conservatives will


have a problem with that, you will hit these people who are having to


travel to work? I agree that drivers are rightly angry, Most people


driving diesel cars bought them because they were told they were the


greener choice, they did so in good faith. Give them ten years, to sell


their car and move on to another car, but, the word is they are going


to be hit in the next 12 months. We need to get action on diesel cars at


the earliest opportunity. Every day of inaction is another day of lives


lost. Isn't it the case if you gave people help to get through this it


would be better for everybody, more electric car, fewer diesel cars it


would be better. I have been campaigning for electric cars for


year, I saw the Secretary of State, telling him to get his accuse


together. But the cost to consumers who were told to buy diesel. If you


say every dicele calf will have its value reduced by 5,00 pounds because


move this hysteria, that is 75 billion we will be costing


consumers. Tell me how, we know that, now we are talking with the


Greater London area, but you have the congestion charge, that is


monitored you can tell cars coming in, but when it comes to Newcastle


or Leicester, how are you actual going to monitor this? That is why


our position is clear, we need the so-called clean air zones to be


properly funded and to be mandatory, we need Local Authorities to be


supported to introduce the... By central Government Absolutely. It is


not fair to same police say you must introduce the clean air zone but


provide no support to do it. I would like to go back to the point about


the cost to drivers, because you know, people driving dicele cars are


just about as much at risk of air pollution as people on the street.


We know if you are stuck in traffic and your car is bridging in air from


the exhaust in front of you, you are getting poisoned by this stuff. So


we need to support action for everybody. It may be you are asking


people to pay the congestion charge in London to pay an extra 15.50 to


bring their car in London. That will hit trade in London as wellen is it.


We are clear three things need to happen. We knee to restrict want


December doole cars can go. We need to get existence between exhaust


pipes and children's lungs. Would you like to see every dicele bus


taken off the streets? We are seeing good progress. Once swept have Petit


Cambodge a, we have enough surveillance cameras so it will be


easy to monitor number plates and charge people. And we will miss the


worst polluters we don't measure ultra fine particles. It is not in


the MoT. Or the vehicle exist duty, so we will be missing the pollution


that is out there. Would you agree that diesel cars


that aren't the most environmentally friendly, 10, 15, 20 years old,


scrap them? We should be testing for more particulate pollution. We don't


do that. So change the MOT. That's not always being enforced as it


should be. We know filters that take out particulates are being removed.


That process is legal. Particulates are never being measured. They are.


The point is about particulates is that we have seen huge action


bringing the particulate emissions from diesels down, we haven't seen


action on nox. The car makers have been lying to us. Under the


Government's watch and EU's watch. Those regimes were supervised by the


Government and EU. We are in a public health crisis. We know that


nox is not under control. We know that the UK Government is breaking


the law. It's a simple point. The UK is obliged to meet legal limits on


nitrogen dioxide and it isn't. Thank you very much very much indeed.


If you're black and grew up in Britain in the '70s or '80s,


perhaps the first person of a similar background


you would have seen on a programme like this was Darcus Howe.


An anti-racism campaigner, a member of the British


Black Panther movement, writer, agitator, public


intellectual and a broadcaster and documentary maker,


Howe's death was announced at the weekend.


He had been living with prostate cancer for more six years.


He edited Race Today for 11 years, working alongside Farruk Dhondy


and Linton Kweisi Johnson, and is credited with


a transformative role in immigrants' rights.


In a life that spanned 74 years and began in Trinidad,


Darcus Howe saw Britain transformed, and often he was the heart


I'm sitting opposite a man, he knows nothing,


The result is he is a trenchant buffoon.


He has no idea how to present television shows, he looks


ridiculous in that fashionwear, he swans around all the time hoping


that people will recognise him, when in fact nobody's


He's taking up enough time on this show already,


Sorry, that's the introduction to Robert Elms.


I've just read out the introduction to Robert Elms.


Heroic and uncharacteristic restraint from Darcus Howe.


A formidable civil rights campaigner and broadcaster.


Back in the '70s, Howe was more than a match for the Met,


when he and others were charged over disturbances in west


London, following police raids on a restaurant.


Officers told the Old Bailey they'd seen Howe orchestrating a crowd


The lawyer said Darcus, please, exhibits are...


So they bring the van and there were these slits at the back.


The four policemen seeing the same thing, seeing the same


So I measured it quietly while the judge and they


were round the side, and went home, cut out


a piece of paper, foolscap, the size of the slit.


Recalled the witness and said "Tell me, how four of you could see


the same thing at the same time, through that slit?"


He say "My eye was here, Rhys's eye was here.


Roger's eye was here, and the next eye was here."


And that is what eventually broke the spirit of the prosecution.


Darcus absolutely, by defending himself, was the star of the show,


out of the nine defendants, and with Shakespeare quotations


He stood up in the dock and was very impressive.


Darcus was a fearless warrior, in the struggle against racial


People talking about the civil rights movement.


There was no civil rights movement in this country, there were -


anti-racist struggles were being raged and Darcus


No-one got a free pass from Darcus Howe, who went


on to be a high profile and punchy broadcaster.


Being an A-lister was no guarantee of an easy ride


The other story I want to tell you is about a family of nine


children, who had talent, but made it to the top


because of terror and violence, from parents driven by ambition.


But he met his match in comedienne Joan Rivers, on Radio 4.


Black does not offend, me, how dare you!


Can we just say that you don't think Joan is a racist


I don't know whether she's a racist or not, I don't care.


That is the stupidest thing I ever heard.


Normally I don't, wouldn't ever meet you in my life.


Howe was in demand as a commentator on issues of race and identity.


Whether discussing symbols of Britishness...


I like living here but I'm not a patriot.


You could like the country, I love the countryside,


I get along beautifully with the English people,


we are part of a space, but I am not patriot.


Did you ever sense this was going to happen?


I have a grandson, who's 15, and who cannot count


the number of times he was stopped and searched.


I think Darcus, in a way more than anybody else,


He still had the trust and confidence of the black


community, but to some extent, at least, he had the trust and


Utterly unbiddable, his own man, Darcus Howe wouldn't let


anyone off the hook, no matter how celebrated.


Just as we were coming to grips with our new hero.


Tomorrow morning's front pages. We gun with the Sun which reprises an


old headline, this time, it's up yours senor. There is the picture of


Gibraltar. The guardian seeks to ease tensions over Gibraltar. The


Mail, 3 million of car debts they can't repay.


And finally a story in the telegraph, the story that the


National Trust has air brushed Easter. Church of England condemns


rebrand egg hunt. The National Trust has dropped the word Easter from the


annual Easter egg hunt. That's just about it tonight. We leave you with


our new Brexit correspondent, Bob Danvers Walker. Who filed this


report on Gibraltar's preparation on life post EU. Along the entire


length of Gibraltar bay, it is a grand panorama of ships of war. Safe


from tore r torpedo attack, proudly ride the floating Arsenals of the


British navy. Always in the foreground is the


navy. The people of Gibraltar like to feel there's a manowar about the


house. So Gibraltar stands, watchdog of empire.


Hello there, good evening, and it's a bit of a grey start


to the day across much of eastern England, with soem outbreaks of rain


for East Anglia and the south-east, and some of that rain will linger


Meanwhile, for the afternoon, in Northern Ireland,


Bright and breezy, 11 or 12 degrees, more like ten or 11


It will always be quite windy the further north


you go, particularly up towards Orkney and Shetland.


There will be some showers rattling through on that wind.


There will be some showers too in the north-west of Scotland.