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week, Newsround is 40 years old. But is it still serving young | :00:02. | :00:12. | |
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Welcome to NewsWatch. Later in the programme: Was he given the oxygen | :00:24. | :00:31. | |
of publicity? Does a 100-year-old event deserves a much time on the | :00:31. | :00:34. | |
news? And do they look cramped in a new home? | :00:35. | :00:38. | |
While we will off-air for Easter, another programme was celebrating | :00:38. | :00:45. | |
its 40th birthday. First, John Craven's Newsround. Back in 1972, | :00:45. | :00:49. | |
the idea of a news programme specially targeting children was a | :00:49. | :00:54. | |
radical one. Then, as now, he's round did not shirk from covering | :00:54. | :00:56. | |
the big stories. Even when they were potentially shocking or | :00:56. | :01:00. | |
distressing. But it has moved on from the days of John Craven and | :01:00. | :01:05. | |
his sweaters. Now it is several editions a day on TV including | :01:05. | :01:09. | |
specials on subjects like autism and domestic violence and a | :01:09. | :01:12. | |
significant online presence. Some take issue with the programme's | :01:12. | :01:22. | |
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Good morning. Welcome to Newsround... Won 14-year-old told | :01:51. | :01:55. | |
me he enjoyed watching Newsround over the years, but identified a | :01:55. | :02:00. | |
programme. -- problem. It's a very good programme, it meets the remit | :02:00. | :02:04. | |
it needs to. It uses techniques to target the audience very well. | :02:04. | :02:12. | |
However, I've noticed a bit of a gap. There is the Newsround for the | :02:12. | :02:17. | |
six-12s and then there are programmes on BBC Three, like Young | :02:17. | :02:22. | |
Person's Question Time, for the older late teens and early adults. | :02:22. | :02:28. | |
But the 12-16 age range is not really getting catered for. Young | :02:28. | :02:32. | |
people of all ages today have a host of possible entertainment and | :02:32. | :02:35. | |
distractions providing competition which was unimaginable four years | :02:35. | :02:41. | |
ago. In a multimedia age, how can use round keep its audience and its | :02:41. | :02:46. | |
relevance? In a moment I will be put in some of those points to Joe | :02:46. | :02:49. | |
goblin, in charge of BBC services for children. First, let's hear | :02:49. | :02:54. | |
from one of the young people he is trying to reach, 12-year-old | :02:54. | :02:58. | |
Lachlann Hinley, in our Edinburgh studio. You are a Newsround viewer, | :02:58. | :03:04. | |
what do you make of it? I think it is good. But I think it is good and | :03:04. | :03:10. | |
Tony or 12. It doesn't really give you the in-depth news that a you | :03:10. | :03:17. | |
could expect if you were over 12, from 12 to 16. What would you like | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
to see and hear gender? What is missing that you want to see and | :03:20. | :03:26. | |
hear about? The sort of things which are on the main news, such as | :03:26. | :03:36. | |
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politics, things that may be are not that interesting for six to 12 | :03:39. | :03:46. | |
age range, like politics and economics. Maybe it should be more | :03:46. | :03:51. | |
focused on real, current news. about your school friends? Do they | :03:51. | :03:56. | |
feel the same as you? To some extent, do you think the Newsround | :03:56. | :04:01. | |
editors are may be underestimating their audience? Yes, I do. At my | :04:01. | :04:05. | |
school it is sort of half-and-half. Some people are interested in | :04:05. | :04:12. | |
reality TV. Popular music. But some people are interested in economics | :04:12. | :04:16. | |
and politics. So I think there needs to be... Newsround should | :04:16. | :04:24. | |
still be there, for half of the people. But there should be a new | :04:24. | :04:28. | |
one for those that want to find out more about politics, economics and | :04:28. | :04:34. | |
more real, current affairs. Stay with us. Joe Godwin, nobody is | :04:34. | :04:39. | |
saying it is an easy thing to please everybody with Newsround. | :04:39. | :04:42. | |
But here you have examples of people saying they should be more | :04:42. | :04:48. | |
serious news and not everybody is interested in the latest reality TV | :04:48. | :04:53. | |
show. In a way, Newsround has been accused of fulfilling its remit for | :04:53. | :04:57. | |
its target audience, which is quite hard to argue with, in Airwave. I | :04:57. | :05:06. | |
think one of the key issues of this is that Newsround fancied CDC -- | :05:06. | :05:11. | |
and CBBC is aimed at that audience. I take a point about provision for | :05:11. | :05:16. | |
older teens. In reality, we know from research and the letters and | :05:16. | :05:22. | |
e-mails that I get that a lot of teenagers do still watch Newsround. | :05:22. | :05:26. | |
Over the years, has there been a gradual slide towards more | :05:26. | :05:33. | |
celebrity, more reality TV, more pop music and football? Has there | :05:33. | :05:38. | |
been a shift? The news agenda has not changed. The first Newsround of | :05:38. | :05:41. | |
April 1970 to lead with a story about Ospreys in Scotland. Let's | :05:41. | :05:45. | |
not kid ourselves that 40 years ago it was leading on the economy and | :05:45. | :05:51. | |
it was all hard news and now it is all pop. Newsround has already | :05:51. | :05:57. | |
talked about Syria, Ivory trafficking. It has had a piece | :05:57. | :06:03. | |
about The Voice and Britain's Got Talent and it's had some stories | :06:03. | :06:07. | |
about tiger cubs. But that is a very traditional mix. Tonight at | :06:07. | :06:13. | |
5pm they will be running on Syria. We talk to children of all ages | :06:13. | :06:15. | |
about Newsround and we know that they are very interested in the | :06:15. | :06:19. | |
serious issues going on in the world. What are the main things | :06:19. | :06:24. | |
that have changed since John Craven's day? Presumably the rise | :06:24. | :06:28. | |
of internet and social media, enormous competition for you as | :06:28. | :06:31. | |
programme makers? The main things that have changed are exactly that, | :06:31. | :06:36. | |
it is the competitive environment. A lot of grown-ups who don't still | :06:36. | :06:40. | |
watch children's television will be amazed to know that the UK is the | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
world's most competitive children's television market. There are 35 | :06:44. | :06:52. | |
dedicated children's talents -- channels. 40 years ago there were | :06:52. | :06:57. | |
no PlayStations, no texting, no tweeting. As I sat down as an | :06:57. | :07:00. | |
eight-year-old to watch the first episode, by choices might have been | :07:00. | :07:06. | |
to watch that, watch something on ITV or go outside. The growth in | :07:06. | :07:08. | |
choice has been the most significant thing. That is why it | :07:08. | :07:13. | |
is remarkable that Newsround is still as important as it is. What | :07:13. | :07:19. | |
do you think about what you have heard? Is that a reasonable case? | :07:19. | :07:29. | |
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Yes. But I still think there is a gap. On Newsround, it does mention | :07:29. | :07:38. | |
Syria. But it's a bit... It's like popular music is more important and | :07:38. | :07:47. | |
Syria. Which I think... I think it needs to get the same things that | :07:47. | :07:57. | |
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the real news has. Thank you very Newsround's 40 it is not the only | :07:57. | :08:01. | |
anniversary around. In case you haven't noticed, and you probably | :08:01. | :08:05. | |
have, it is 30 years since the Falklands war and 100 years since | :08:05. | :08:14. | |
the Titanic set sail on its fateful voyage. News of the disaster | :08:14. | :08:17. | |
brought frustration and despair to the streets around the port. Day | :08:17. | :08:21. | |
and night, the crowds strange to read the casualty lists. Some | :08:21. | :08:27. | |
viewers felt that television was providing an ocean's worth of | :08:27. | :08:37. | |
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documentaries, dramas and news There were more complaints last | :08:47. | :08:52. | |
weekend about this. What has happened? Cambridge have stopped! | :08:52. | :08:58. | |
We stopped rowing, there is a man swimming between the boats. A lone | :08:58. | :09:03. | |
swimmer, stop the race, narrowly avoiding injury himself. It emerged | :09:03. | :09:07. | |
he was protesting, apparently about elitism. | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
The disruption was certainly dramatic. But did BBC News give too | :09:11. | :09:21. | |
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Tuesday morning saw the dawning of a new era for Breakfast, as it took | :09:33. | :09:40. | |
up residence alongside Newsround and some other programmes at the | :09:40. | :09:42. | |
corporation's new-ish base in Salford. The move has been | :09:42. | :09:48. | |
controversial. Some guests are found it quite convenient. Are you | :09:48. | :09:54. | |
mourning people? I am, but I only lead four minutes away from here. | :09:54. | :10:04. | |
Did you walk? I jog! Salford! Bill is moving to Salford. In two weeks | :10:04. | :10:08. | |
we will be discussing who has made the move, what impact it has had on | :10:08. | :10:12. | |
the programme and how it will look in its new studio. I know there is | :10:12. | :10:15. | |
still a red sofa, but other changes have not gone down well with some | :10:15. | :10:25. | |
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Finally, fancy a job? The post of BBC director general was advertised | :10:49. | :10:53. | |
this week. Experience as a programme-maker or journalist was | :10:53. | :10:56. | |
described as desirable but not essential. Chairman Lord Patten | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
said the role will require the wisdom of Aristotle and the | :11:00. | :11:03. | |
striking power of Wayne Rooney. If you have an equally snappy summary | :11:03. | :11:07. | |
of the qualities you think the next director general needs, we would | :11:07. | :11:12. |