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Will come. Later in the programme, these two men have made it through


to the run-off in the French presidential election. Shouldn't we


agree on how to pronounce their names?


First, two weeks since the breakfast programme took up their


new home in Salford. Some of viewers have objected to the look


of the programme's new studio. Others question the value and the


It is almost -- it is almost a decade since the idea since the new


location was decided on. But the transfer of the One Show has been


the biggest step yet. Around half of the breakfast team offered to


make the move but presenter's Sean Williams and Chris Holland's


decided to leave the programme. There were many objections voiced


It made possible that the colours and camera angles at not liked, but


viewers will have to get used to it. Is that a welcome and economical


devolution of an overly Metropolitan BBC? Or an extravagant


and it damaging example of political correctness?


I will be putting that to the man who oversaw Breakfast moved to


Salford, Adam Bullimore. Before that, let's hear the views of two


more few hours. Jonathan Evans and end Keith. First of all, end, what


do you make of the move of breakfast to Salford, and has it


affected your viewing? I think it was totally unnecessary. I think


the BBC is a national broadcaster and a think if it moved to a region


for its main output, it stands the risk -- it runs the risk of being a


regional broadcaster instead of a national broadcaster. How do you


think the move has affected Breakfast itself. I think the


studio set-up is rather cramped. It is not as pleasant as the London


set-up. Also, were the quality of presentation has declined. Do you


think that too many down the lines as opposed to it live guest makes a


difference? Yes, I do. Because when politicians were able to come into


the studio, it seemed much more immediate. The interviewers were


able to approach them in a much more direct way. Just then, what


have you made of the move? I would just agree with the last few were.


I think it is a bad mistake. I think London is a world centre, not


just an UK centre. I think the programme should be located in


London. Long-term, I think it will affect the quality of the programme.


I think all the news programmes should be consolidated in one


centre in London. I do think they should be in Manchester. You might


as well have put it in Edinburgh or in Dublin. It needs to be in London.


What do you think of the argument that the BBC is to metropolitan


biased and this is a move to recognise the rest of the country?


I don't agree with it comes to a programme, a news centric programme.


It should be located where the centre of the news is. London is a


worldwide centre, not just a UK centre. I think it has cost too


much money. It has been wasted. wide you think it has cost too


much? Why do think it is a waste? The BBC management made a big


mistake because they are trying to cut costs and at the same time,


they spend �200 million relocating to Manchester. They also spend �80


million on redundancies and retraining. They lost 54% of the


team for Breakfast. What is the point? It is just a political


gesture. End, do you miss the presenters? Yes, I think the


present presenter's are not as serious as she was on many


occasions. I heard her do some very good interviews which I have not


heard from the current team up with the exception of Charlie state and


Phil Turnbull. Thank you very much. Adam Bullimore is the deputy editor


of Breakfast. I know you are not responsible for the decision, but


at least in that physical terms, how well as the move on? I think it


has gone amazingly well. It is a hugely complex business moving a


three-hour network news programme a bike Breakfast 200 miles away from


the mother ship, if you like. And to be three weeks in and to have


had very few technical issues, to have had a clean programme and the


quality of the output we have had for this first few weeks for our


audience to have held up and stuck with us, I think we are really


pleased. What do you have to say though to viewers like we have just


heard? They say the move was not necessary and is probably costing


too much. Well, the move is part of a wider commitment by the BBC to


spread the value of the licence fee around the UK. We are now in the


centre of the UK, we are not just in the north of England. We think


we can make the breakfast that people know and love in Salford.


But you can't get the same quality of guests actually on the sofa. The


top politicians, the top waters. The UK is a London-based Society


and you inevitably have to do more down the line interviews, which


loses the sense of presence and intimacy. We have already had some


top guests on the sofa. But you won't get the same number. I think,


even when we were in west London, some top guest would not sit on a


sofa and we didn't down the line or in pre- recorded interviews. It is


early days. We have had some great guests so far and we will continue


to push for great guests. We reach 7 million people a day. Our


audience is a massive drop. this week, we have had the Leveson


Inquiry and the spin-offs of the problems faced by the Culture


Secretary. You would be able to get any of these people live in the


studio. A think the Leveson Inquiry is a particularly difficult story


to do in Salford. But the reality was, it is, that we would always


have done the Everson from outside the High Court where the inquiry is


happening. I think the politicians who are commenting would have


inevitably gone into the Westminster studio anyway. They


would have been down the line, even in Television Centre. Other viewers


have asked about travel costs. Who pays for the travel expenses?


I would say is that it doesn't matter if you are a top presenter


or a junior researcher on the programme, the relocation packages


available to staff at the same for everyone. But once that runs out,


they are responsible for their own Cup -- Travel? Yes. We have had a


lot of complaints about the set. One, it seems small. The camera


angles seemed to be in the presenter's face. People don't like


the colours. It is this a smaller studio then the Breakfast used to


appear from? Yes, it is, there is no getting away from that. The


studio we used to broadcast from is the news watch studio. But we think


we have got the space we need. You would expect some, it. People don't


like change to the look of a favourite programme. Those few


interactions came in the first 48 hours but after that, they have


almost dried up. Now people are talking about the stories. That is


what they have always talked about. We have made some changes, we have


been listening to the viewers. We have changed some of the tight


shorts that people had a problem with. I think debt the reality is,


we are still settling in to our surroundings and finding the best


angles and the best shots, and getting used to the environment.


Thank you very much. Time for a quick mention of last


weekend's French presidential election. The runner-up was... Here


is Michelle on the News at Ten. Exit polls say Nicolas Sarkozy


trails his challenger. But the official BBC pronunciation


is pronounced differently. That may not be to the liking of Steve


Pengelly, he emailed, can you please ask your reporters to stop


pronouncing Nicolas Sarkozy in a ridiculously comic French accent?


You might expect them to get the name of his talent to write.


We have been waiting in fact for the last half-hour to hear from the


victorious candidate in the first round of voting.


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