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Will come. Later in the programme, these two men have made it through
to the run-off in the French presidential election. Shouldn't we
agree on how to pronounce their names?
First, two weeks since the breakfast programme took up their
new home in Salford. Some of viewers have objected to the look
of the programme's new studio. Others question the value and the
It is almost -- it is almost a decade since the idea since the new
location was decided on. But the transfer of the One Show has been
the biggest step yet. Around half of the breakfast team offered to
make the move but presenter's Sean Williams and Chris Holland's
decided to leave the programme. There were many objections voiced
It made possible that the colours and camera angles at not liked, but
viewers will have to get used to it. Is that a welcome and economical
devolution of an overly Metropolitan BBC? Or an extravagant
and it damaging example of political correctness?
I will be putting that to the man who oversaw Breakfast moved to
Salford, Adam Bullimore. Before that, let's hear the views of two
more few hours. Jonathan Evans and end Keith. First of all, end, what
do you make of the move of breakfast to Salford, and has it
affected your viewing? I think it was totally unnecessary. I think
the BBC is a national broadcaster and a think if it moved to a region
for its main output, it stands the risk -- it runs the risk of being a
regional broadcaster instead of a national broadcaster. How do you
think the move has affected Breakfast itself. I think the
studio set-up is rather cramped. It is not as pleasant as the London
set-up. Also, were the quality of presentation has declined. Do you
think that too many down the lines as opposed to it live guest makes a
difference? Yes, I do. Because when politicians were able to come into
the studio, it seemed much more immediate. The interviewers were
able to approach them in a much more direct way. Just then, what
have you made of the move? I would just agree with the last few were.
I think it is a bad mistake. I think London is a world centre, not
just an UK centre. I think the programme should be located in
London. Long-term, I think it will affect the quality of the programme.
I think all the news programmes should be consolidated in one
centre in London. I do think they should be in Manchester. You might
as well have put it in Edinburgh or in Dublin. It needs to be in London.
What do you think of the argument that the BBC is to metropolitan
biased and this is a move to recognise the rest of the country?
I don't agree with it comes to a programme, a news centric programme.
It should be located where the centre of the news is. London is a
worldwide centre, not just a UK centre. I think it has cost too
much money. It has been wasted. wide you think it has cost too
much? Why do think it is a waste? The BBC management made a big
mistake because they are trying to cut costs and at the same time,
they spend �200 million relocating to Manchester. They also spend �80
million on redundancies and retraining. They lost 54% of the
team for Breakfast. What is the point? It is just a political
gesture. End, do you miss the presenters? Yes, I think the
present presenter's are not as serious as she was on many
occasions. I heard her do some very good interviews which I have not
heard from the current team up with the exception of Charlie state and
Phil Turnbull. Thank you very much. Adam Bullimore is the deputy editor
of Breakfast. I know you are not responsible for the decision, but
at least in that physical terms, how well as the move on? I think it
has gone amazingly well. It is a hugely complex business moving a
three-hour network news programme a bike Breakfast 200 miles away from
the mother ship, if you like. And to be three weeks in and to have
had very few technical issues, to have had a clean programme and the
quality of the output we have had for this first few weeks for our
audience to have held up and stuck with us, I think we are really
pleased. What do you have to say though to viewers like we have just
heard? They say the move was not necessary and is probably costing
too much. Well, the move is part of a wider commitment by the BBC to
spread the value of the licence fee around the UK. We are now in the
centre of the UK, we are not just in the north of England. We think
we can make the breakfast that people know and love in Salford.
But you can't get the same quality of guests actually on the sofa. The
top politicians, the top waters. The UK is a London-based Society
and you inevitably have to do more down the line interviews, which
loses the sense of presence and intimacy. We have already had some
top guests on the sofa. But you won't get the same number. I think,
even when we were in west London, some top guest would not sit on a
sofa and we didn't down the line or in pre- recorded interviews. It is
early days. We have had some great guests so far and we will continue
to push for great guests. We reach 7 million people a day. Our
audience is a massive drop. this week, we have had the Leveson
Inquiry and the spin-offs of the problems faced by the Culture
Secretary. You would be able to get any of these people live in the
studio. A think the Leveson Inquiry is a particularly difficult story
to do in Salford. But the reality was, it is, that we would always
have done the Everson from outside the High Court where the inquiry is
happening. I think the politicians who are commenting would have
inevitably gone into the Westminster studio anyway. They
would have been down the line, even in Television Centre. Other viewers
have asked about travel costs. Who pays for the travel expenses?
I would say is that it doesn't matter if you are a top presenter
or a junior researcher on the programme, the relocation packages
available to staff at the same for everyone. But once that runs out,
they are responsible for their own Cup -- Travel? Yes. We have had a
lot of complaints about the set. One, it seems small. The camera
angles seemed to be in the presenter's face. People don't like
the colours. It is this a smaller studio then the Breakfast used to
appear from? Yes, it is, there is no getting away from that. The
studio we used to broadcast from is the news watch studio. But we think
we have got the space we need. You would expect some, it. People don't
like change to the look of a favourite programme. Those few
interactions came in the first 48 hours but after that, they have
almost dried up. Now people are talking about the stories. That is
what they have always talked about. We have made some changes, we have
been listening to the viewers. We have changed some of the tight
shorts that people had a problem with. I think debt the reality is,
we are still settling in to our surroundings and finding the best
angles and the best shots, and getting used to the environment.
Thank you very much. Time for a quick mention of last
weekend's French presidential election. The runner-up was... Here
is Michelle on the News at Ten. Exit polls say Nicolas Sarkozy
trails his challenger. But the official BBC pronunciation
is pronounced differently. That may not be to the liking of Steve
Pengelly, he emailed, can you please ask your reporters to stop
pronouncing Nicolas Sarkozy in a ridiculously comic French accent?
You might expect them to get the name of his talent to write.
We have been waiting in fact for the last half-hour to hear from the
victorious candidate in the first round of voting.