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Now it is time for cap toggle News watch. This week, a certain birth | :00:04. | :00:14. | |
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Welcome to News watch with me semi-Ahmed. News this week might | :00:20. | :00:24. | |
depend on what you call news. Did the BBC's coverage of the royal | :00:24. | :00:30. | |
birth spent too long just waiting for something to happen? And did it | :00:30. | :00:33. | |
convey a mood of national celebration or just help to | :00:33. | :00:43. | |
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The wait was long, the anticipation intense, but from the time on Monday | :00:43. | :00:47. | |
morning when the Duchess of Cambridge went into labour, the BBC | :00:47. | :00:51. | |
News machine along with the rest of the media devoted large amounts of | :00:51. | :00:57. | |
airtime to this. Some breaking news for you, we are going straight to St | :00:57. | :00:59. | |
Mary's Hospital in London to join our royal reporter Nicholas | :00:59. | :01:05. | |
Witchell, it might give you a clue. Plenty more to come from here of | :01:05. | :01:08. | |
course. None of it news, because that will come from Buckingham | :01:08. | :01:12. | |
Palace, but that will not stop us. This is really a moment in history, | :01:13. | :01:17. | |
and looking at that huge crowd now collecting here outside the | :01:17. | :01:20. | |
forecourt, waiting for the formal announcement to arrive will stop I | :01:20. | :01:24. | |
can tell you the Duchess of Cambridge has been delivered of a | :01:24. | :01:30. | |
son. You and I are both on our knees so we can avoid getting people in | :01:30. | :01:33. | |
shock, but that means we are probably the first people to be on | :01:33. | :01:39. | |
our knees as the young prince comes out. How appropriate !What you | :01:39. | :01:43. | |
think is going on behind the doors? I have been trying to avoid | :01:43. | :01:45. | |
speculating for 48 hours, but I am asking pure speculation. Here they | :01:45. | :01:55. | |
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Any birth, particularly a royal one, is the cue for an outpouring of joy | :01:57. | :02:02. | |
and approval. Terry Hazell permits which was full of both, e-mailing, I | :02:02. | :02:05. | |
know you are likely to receive a number of complaints about the | :02:05. | :02:15. | |
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amount of time spent covering the in, thousands of them, including | :02:24. | :02:34. | |
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and proportionate, or more like the madness of Prince George? I'm joined | :03:05. | :03:09. | |
by two viewers who got in touch with us, Dave Edwards in Tunbridge Wells | :03:09. | :03:14. | |
and Jill Lord in Oxford. With me in the studio is Sam Taylor, the | :03:14. | :03:20. | |
controller of the BBC News Channel. First, Dave, what was your concern? | :03:20. | :03:24. | |
I felt the BBC News coverage of the royal birth on Monday can really | :03:24. | :03:29. | |
best be summed up by one of your news reporters, who stated, here is | :03:29. | :03:35. | |
the news. There is no news. There was a lot of foreign media there, | :03:35. | :03:40. | |
and quite clearly, I doubt very much if in their countries they were | :03:40. | :03:44. | |
providing the kind of wall to wall coverage of essentially a no news | :03:44. | :03:50. | |
item. Exactly what is the viewer to gain from seeing multiple views of a | :03:50. | :03:58. | |
closed court? Door? Or the repeated background facts and figures that to | :03:58. | :04:03. | |
be honest, are not part of a news programme. Dave's comment is typical | :04:03. | :04:07. | |
of thousands we got, which is too much coverage would not enough news. | :04:07. | :04:12. | |
Three facts in three days: In labour, baby born, name. What with | :04:12. | :04:18. | |
the justification between those facts? It was a unique day on | :04:18. | :04:23. | |
Monday. It was a large story which there was the large amount of | :04:23. | :04:27. | |
interest in around the world and in the UK, and it is not entirely fair | :04:27. | :04:30. | |
to say we had endless coverage. We reported a range of other news | :04:30. | :04:34. | |
stories. Some people came to the news channel more often than they | :04:34. | :04:37. | |
might and an average day, and therefore got regular updates as the | :04:37. | :04:42. | |
day progressed. He said, at this point, there is no news. That is a | :04:42. | :04:46. | |
light-hearted reflection, but we know from our audience figures a lot | :04:46. | :04:53. | |
of people tuned in to catch up with events. Gill, what do you think? | :04:53. | :04:57. | |
agree with Dave. For me, the low point of reporting was on Tuesday, | :04:57. | :05:02. | |
when I watched the news channel and you did not move from outside the | :05:02. | :05:04. | |
Lindo Wing, so poor Nicholas Witchell was having once again to | :05:04. | :05:11. | |
keep repeating himself. When we tuned in to Breakfast, the Duke | :05:11. | :05:18. | |
Duchess of Cambridge had gone into hospital, but they were not going to | :05:18. | :05:22. | |
update you on the labour through the day, but Nicholas Witchell was | :05:22. | :05:25. | |
speech every ten minutes, so he just kept repeating the same thing on and | :05:25. | :05:30. | |
on. There was no news there. Certainly keep it in the headlines, | :05:30. | :05:35. | |
but not that amount of coverage. People think you have made a | :05:35. | :05:38. | |
decision to deploy, and therefore you are trying to justify having | :05:38. | :05:42. | |
people in these places when nothing is going on. Just to talk | :05:42. | :05:45. | |
specifically about Tuesday, we were happily reporting on the news at | :05:45. | :05:50. | |
that time, things like the Pope, Prince Charles comes out of the | :05:50. | :05:55. | |
hospital to speak to the media after visiting his new grandson, and at | :05:55. | :06:00. | |
that point, he says you will see him in a minute. In that sense, us and | :06:00. | :06:03. | |
the rest of the world's media had no option but to wait and see what | :06:04. | :06:09. | |
happened at that point. How long was it? About an hour. We were given | :06:09. | :06:11. | |
several warnings it was imminent. What is interesting is, over that | :06:11. | :06:16. | |
hour, our audience built continuously to reach a point where | :06:16. | :06:19. | |
on the news channel at the point they came out of the door, more than | :06:19. | :06:23. | |
two million people were watching. Some complaints said they found the | :06:23. | :06:32. | |
tone to fawning, even sycophantic. suppose that is a question, but I | :06:32. | :06:36. | |
think Simon McCoy was very careful to reflect the BLT and some of the | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
range of views were there. Peter Hunt and Nicholas Witchell were also | :06:39. | :06:43. | |
very measured and how they talk. The other thing we did was, once the key | :06:43. | :06:49. | |
events had taken place, we made a of views. We spoke to the boss of | :06:49. | :06:53. | |
Republic, which campaigns against the monarchy. That was controversial | :06:53. | :06:56. | |
from the other side. I Wonga if there is a sense that because there | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
was concern over the tone of the coverage, I Tuesday there was a | :07:00. | :07:04. | |
sense that we had better get some Republicans on. No, I think you have | :07:04. | :07:07. | |
to cover events as they happen. You can't debate what an event means | :07:07. | :07:12. | |
that the nation until it is fully happen, so after the birth, we were | :07:12. | :07:14. | |
happy to draw on several voices who had a different view, both on the | :07:14. | :07:22. | |
coverage itself and on the way that we covered it and the what it meant | :07:22. | :07:28. | |
the monarchy. Dave, convinced? am not. I know we are taught you | :07:28. | :07:33. | |
about one story over two days, but in context, we have had a year's | :07:33. | :07:38. | |
worth of silver jubilee celebrations, a year's worth, which | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
we are still halfway through, of the 60th anniversary of the Coronation, | :07:41. | :07:49. | |
nine months of has Kate got a bomb or not? I sure we are now heading | :07:49. | :07:53. | |
into a toddler two years. At some point, the BBC needs to look at all | :07:53. | :07:58. | |
that content of the Royal family, all of its contents such as this, | :07:58. | :08:03. | |
and whether it is actually informing, inviting a reasoned and | :08:03. | :08:09. | |
balanced debate, and to be honest, representing the views of people in | :08:09. | :08:14. | |
Bucklebury, not the views of the nation. Jill, you asked about | :08:14. | :08:17. | |
deployment of resources and where the BBC had reporters. Yes, on | :08:17. | :08:23. | |
Monday, or Tuesday, reporters were outside the hospital, in | :08:23. | :08:26. | |
Bucklebury, on Anglesey, outside Kensington Palace and Buckingham | :08:26. | :08:32. | |
Palace. Bucklebury is the village where Kate was born, and Anglesey | :08:32. | :08:36. | |
where the family is based. I know, but on Anglesey, there was nothing | :08:36. | :08:41. | |
there to report. Similarly at Bucklebury. They interviewed some | :08:41. | :08:47. | |
people who obviously, once the baby had been born, work were glad to | :08:47. | :08:52. | |
raise toast, but the next morning, the News reported the village had | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
been celebrating all night, and the evidence was an interview with a few | :08:55. | :08:59. | |
primary school children. It just seems to be manufacturing news when | :08:59. | :09:07. | |
it was not there. I think it is important to reflect how people | :09:07. | :09:10. | |
respond to the story, and that is why were in some other locations. | :09:10. | :09:14. | |
But she is saying those locations did not have a story there was | :09:14. | :09:17. | |
height to justify being there. think Bucklebury is a reasonable | :09:17. | :09:21. | |
location to be in. It is now where Prince George has gone to stay for | :09:21. | :09:25. | |
the next few days, so in advance, speaking to people who knew the | :09:25. | :09:29. | |
family, I think that was relevant. But I think one aborted thing is, in | :09:30. | :09:34. | |
the end, this is two days of coverage on a major story of | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
historic significance in Britain, the third in line to the throne, and | :09:38. | :09:43. | |
one that has happened, we moved on to report that the stories. I | :09:43. | :09:47. | |
understand the concern to some extent about the scale of the | :09:47. | :09:51. | |
coverage, but for many others, it was a day when people really wanted | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
to hear what was going on. Thank you to Sam Taylor, and thank you to | :09:55. | :10:04. | |
Just time before we go for a brief round-up of other topics you have | :10:04. | :10:07. | |
been having your say on, starting with Wednesday's train crash in | :10:07. | :10:13. | |
Spain. As the death toll rose, some complaints came into, including this | :10:13. | :10:23. | |
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complaints came into, including this death of two teenage girls in a | :10:25. | :10:30. | |
river in Tyne & Wear. The bodies of both girls, Toni-Beth Purvis and | :10:30. | :10:33. | |
Chloe Fowler have been recovered from the River Wear. Our reporter is | :10:33. | :10:41. | |
therefore is now. What Danny Savage was wearing prompted a call to | :10:41. | :10:51. | |
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off the air August, but keep sending as your views. We will read them all | :11:05. | :11:10. | |
and feature some on the programme when we return. You can contact us | :11:10. | :11:20. | |
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