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There will be a full round up at 10pm, but now, News watch. | :00:00. | :00:07. | |
Hello, welcome to Newswatch with me Samira Ahmed. | :00:08. | :00:09. | |
On this week's programme: What's the BBC's Economics Editor doing | :00:10. | :00:12. | |
standing in the street trying to catch numbers? | :00:13. | :00:14. | |
And do we need to know that this distinguished human rights lawyer | :00:15. | :00:17. | |
is married to a Hollywood film star? | :00:18. | :00:33. | |
It's an annual challenge for BBC News - how to make the complex | :00:34. | :00:37. | |
economics of the Budget accessible, without dumbing down. | :00:38. | :00:39. | |
It was only to be expected that there were plenty | :00:40. | :00:41. | |
But what surprised many viewers was that in a preview piece | :00:42. | :00:46. | |
on Monday, some of those numbers seemed to be flying right | :00:47. | :00:49. | |
into the hands of the BBC's Economics Editor, Kamal Ahmed. | :00:50. | :00:54. | |
Inflation could fit 2.8% by the end of the year. That could mean a | :00:55. | :01:02. | |
squeeze on living standards. The price of fuel has already hit an 18 | :01:03. | :01:09. | |
month high. It now costs ?9 and more to fill up the average family car | :01:10. | :01:14. | |
than it did a year ago. And what about the all-important issue of | :01:15. | :01:18. | |
business confidence? Well, the latest survey suggest that | :01:19. | :01:19. | |
confidence is declining. Graham Ford was incredulous | :01:20. | :01:21. | |
at what he saw, and left us He was standing in the street as if | :01:22. | :01:34. | |
he was in Sesame Street, with figures coming down out of the sky. | :01:35. | :01:39. | |
This has lost all credibility for the news. Your convoluted is try to | :01:40. | :01:47. | |
bowl of things going on around him. This is just another example of the | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
news totally dumbing down. Just give us the news from people who know | :01:52. | :01:56. | |
what they are talking about in the studio. Thank you very much. | :01:57. | :01:57. | |
Elsewhere in the report other figures - and words - | :01:58. | :01:59. | |
popped up in the nearby countryside, and there was also a strong line | :02:00. | :02:02. | |
in finding descriptions in nature which also applied | :02:03. | :02:04. | |
With little discernible Brexit effect, what has been behind the sun | :02:05. | :02:19. | |
continuing to shine on the UK's finances. So the economic waters of | :02:20. | :02:23. | |
the moment are not too treacherous for Philip Hammond. But this will | :02:24. | :02:28. | |
not be a Budget is full of big giveaways, despite the brighter | :02:29. | :02:29. | |
economic environment. After hearing those lines of script | :02:30. | :02:29. | |
and watching the graphics, another viewer, Michael O'Shea, | :02:30. | :02:32. | |
recorded on camera his views It was frustrating and distracting. | :02:33. | :02:46. | |
So much so I cannot recall what he was talking about. They reminded me | :02:47. | :02:52. | |
of year seven pupils when they first used PowerPoint, they used every | :02:53. | :02:56. | |
feature and gimmick regardless of its suitability of relevance. I | :02:57. | :03:01. | |
appreciate graphics has its place in news presentation, maybe in the | :03:02. | :03:05. | |
studio, but a presenter talks to the screen and we do not need to be | :03:06. | :03:07. | |
entertained with a news presentation. | :03:08. | :03:09. | |
In another report the following night, | :03:10. | :03:10. | |
more numbers were dropping down from the sky, | :03:11. | :03:12. | |
although this time not into Kamal Ahmed's hands. | :03:13. | :03:14. | |
And there were visual metaphors, too, | :03:15. | :03:22. | |
with the BBC's Economics Editor on a bridge over the Tyne, | :03:23. | :03:29. | |
which then became the backdrop for a rather spectacular bar chart. | :03:30. | :03:31. | |
So, was all this invention a fun way of making a complex | :03:32. | :03:34. | |
subject more accessible - or self-indulgent dumbing down? | :03:35. | :03:37. | |
Richard Lynch enjoyed Monday's numbers-in-the-hand trick, tweeting: | :03:38. | :03:41. | |
"Loving the graphics from Kamal on BBC News At ten tonight... | :03:42. | :03:44. | |
While Andrew Watson thought there were: | :03:45. | :03:49. | |
"Some great The Day Today-style flying graphics on BBC News tonight. | :03:50. | :03:54. | |
"Fair play to Kamal Ahmed for keeping a straight face." | :03:55. | :04:09. | |
Let's explore those reactions with the Deputy Editor of the BBC's | :04:10. | :04:11. | |
News at Six and News at Ten, Hilary O'Neill. | :04:12. | :04:21. | |
Viewers do understand that using graphics to try make it clear and | :04:22. | :04:25. | |
understandable, but these ones, they were just dropping out of the sky. | :04:26. | :04:31. | |
They didn't mean anything. They did mean something, every number there | :04:32. | :04:35. | |
was a relevant. It was therefore a reason. The locations had been | :04:36. | :04:40. | |
thought through and I thought it was informative and creative and | :04:41. | :04:43. | |
entertaining, and actually, I don't have a problem with it myself. I do | :04:44. | :04:47. | |
understand if some viewers thought it was slightly distracting, are but | :04:48. | :04:56. | |
all we are trying to do with an awful lot of material and a big | :04:57. | :04:58. | |
collection of numbers is to make it as clear as possible and hopefully | :04:59. | :05:01. | |
do that in a way that engages the view and is not just the numbers in | :05:02. | :05:09. | |
a studio. Is interesting that you deliberately went out of the studio | :05:10. | :05:12. | |
for that reason, because fewer say it ended up being distracting. He's | :05:13. | :05:16. | |
doing this in the street and in the end, it is the number he has just | :05:17. | :05:21. | |
said out loud, there's nothing graphic on the representation of the | :05:22. | :05:24. | |
number that helps you understand it better. I think if there was only | :05:25. | :05:28. | |
one number, I would accept that. But if there's an awful lot of numbers, | :05:29. | :05:32. | |
maybe the viewers who complained are just super numerous in way that I am | :05:33. | :05:37. | |
not, and an expert in the economy in a way I am not, but we do know a | :05:38. | :05:42. | |
whole range of people were glad about it were watching and we need | :05:43. | :05:47. | |
to try to accommodate people who don't necessarily already know the | :05:48. | :05:52. | |
numbers and lots of the audience research shows that firstly, people | :05:53. | :05:55. | |
have a vague idea quite often but not necessarily the detail, and | :05:56. | :05:59. | |
secondly, even if they do know the detail, they do not mind being | :06:00. | :06:02. | |
reminded, especially ahead of the big day like a Budget. Specific | :06:03. | :06:08. | |
complaint made was that it looks like the BBC's graphics team got | :06:09. | :06:10. | |
carried away by what you can do, rather than what is useful. And with | :06:11. | :06:16. | |
the scene on the streets, there was an inflation figure which was up and | :06:17. | :06:19. | |
it dropped down from the sky which is illogical. The details of what | :06:20. | :06:26. | |
goes up and down... But it's interesting. The graphic is meant to | :06:27. | :06:31. | |
be clear, the figures about going up when it comes down. But the arrow | :06:32. | :06:39. | |
was up. I think over all, you write these things keep changing and | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
evolving, because the technology allows us to. We do want to be on | :06:45. | :06:48. | |
the wrong side and do things for the sake of it. But that would have been | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
meticulously planned and the only motivation behind it would be trying | :06:53. | :06:57. | |
to make what is sometimes a dry chunk of information interesting to | :06:58. | :07:02. | |
viewers. I'm sorry if some found it distracting and we always need to | :07:03. | :07:04. | |
take into consideration if we've gone too far or are we serving our | :07:05. | :07:10. | |
audience or pleasing ourselves and of course, that's what we'll | :07:11. | :07:18. | |
continue to do. Viewers were saying that it was quite childish, pushing | :07:19. | :07:23. | |
metaphors about sunny days and troubled waters. Is this not a | :07:24. | :07:30. | |
regular viewer? We often talk about storm clouds gathering. In fairness, | :07:31. | :07:37. | |
he was in those locations for a reason. He was in Hampshire | :07:38. | :07:44. | |
specifically because consumer spending is up there and that was a | :07:45. | :07:48. | |
reflection of the story he was partly telling and also when | :07:49. | :07:51. | |
unemployment is low there. In the second piece, he was there because | :07:52. | :07:55. | |
although the economy is growing a little, is below where the rest of | :07:56. | :07:59. | |
the UK years. There are reasons why he was where he was. And it is | :08:00. | :08:02. | |
unfair given that we sometimes come in for a lot of criticism as an | :08:03. | :08:07. | |
organisation and as a news organisation forced King to London | :08:08. | :08:12. | |
all the time and being in a studio and doing it from a metropolitan | :08:13. | :08:15. | |
point of view, so we went out and about. Thank you. | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
Do let us know what you think about the visual presentation | :08:20. | :08:21. | |
of television news, or about any aspect of BBC News. | :08:22. | :08:24. | |
Stay tuned for details of how to contact us. | :08:25. | :08:28. | |
There was another example this week of the BBC's Graphics department | :08:29. | :08:31. | |
being busy making numbers fly around the screen in a report | :08:32. | :08:33. | |
from Justin Rowlatt about possible restrictions on visas being given | :08:34. | :08:36. | |
to Indians wanting to work in the United States. | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
But it was the way the piece started that annoyed another viewer. | :08:41. | :08:48. | |
She graduated from a top American university and has worked as a | :08:49. | :08:55. | |
software engineer for Microsoft and Facebook. But she is not sure she | :08:56. | :09:01. | |
would be welcome in America any more. Engineers like me are being | :09:02. | :09:08. | |
pushed out of the US today. It is really unfortunate. Sue Robson rang | :09:09. | :09:13. | |
us after watching that to make this point. I comedy what I have just | :09:14. | :09:22. | |
seen. An item about troubles-macro restrictions on Indian engineers | :09:23. | :09:27. | |
taking jobs in the USA. He has just shown an Indian engineer putting on | :09:28. | :09:30. | |
her make-up and getting dressed, buttoning up her dress over her | :09:31. | :09:37. | |
chest. And this on International winning's day, to! If she were a man | :09:38. | :09:43. | |
he would not have shown him slicking back his hair and doing up his | :09:44. | :09:49. | |
shirt. They would have shown him doing his job. | :09:50. | :09:51. | |
The charge of sexism was also made on Tuesday, | :09:52. | :09:53. | |
after an item on the News at Six about the persecution | :09:54. | :09:55. | |
Tomorrow, the lawyer acting on behalf of the Yazidis will adjust | :09:56. | :10:10. | |
the United Nations in New York and call for formal investigation into | :10:11. | :10:14. | |
the genocide. Amal Clooney who is married to George Clooney Tommy why | :10:15. | :10:19. | |
she's going to represent the Yazidis why their causes important to her. | :10:20. | :10:21. | |
Vivienne Davies was one of a number of viewers watching that who had | :10:22. | :10:24. | |
Is it really necessary to mention the fact that Amal Clooney is | :10:25. | :10:38. | |
married to George Clooney? She's an intelligent woman who is doing the | :10:39. | :10:44. | |
job that she does because of her intelligence, together with the | :10:45. | :10:48. | |
knowledge and experience. And because she is married to a Fulham | :10:49. | :10:53. | |
star. Put it out BBC, you can do better than that. | :10:54. | :10:54. | |
Finally, back to the Budget and to numbers - specifically, | :10:55. | :10:57. | |
the amount of extra funding for social care announced | :10:58. | :10:59. | |
You will spend 2 billion on social care in England. A billion available | :11:00. | :11:12. | |
in the next year. There is a longer-term review off to pay to | :11:13. | :11:13. | |
look after the elderly. With that plea, we | :11:14. | :11:40. | |
leave you this week. If you want to share your opinions | :11:41. | :11:42. | |
on BBC News and current affairs, or even appear on the programme, | :11:43. | :11:45. | |
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@newswatchbbc, and do have a look We'll be back to hear your | :11:49. | :11:54. | |
thoughts about BBC News Comic up a detailed forecasting | :11:55. | :12:22. | |
weather for the week ahead. Followed | :12:23. | :12:23. |