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This week, is the BBC too
obsessed with the problems | 0:00:00 | 0:00:01 | |
in our health service? | 0:00:01 | 0:00:08 | |
Hello and welcome to Newswatch,
with me, Samira Ahmed. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:13 | |
Flu, a nursing shortage -
the NHS winter crisis | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
is dominating headlines. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
But is BBC News
overplaying the negative? | 0:00:17 | 0:00:22 | |
We ask health editor, Hugh Pym,
weather BBC coverage could be | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
damaging confidence among NHS staff
and the public. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:34 | |
First, it's not always what you see
on the news which captures | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
the attention of Newswatch viewers,
but when you see it. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
On Wednesday evening, a football
match was showing live on BBC One. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
If you're interested,
an FA Cup third-round replay | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
between Chelsea and Norwich City. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
Unfortunately, not everyone was
interested and when the broadcast | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
overran because of the start
to the game and they go into extra | 0:00:52 | 0:00:57 | |
time and then a penalty shoot out,
some of them were pretty angry, | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
as the News at Ten became
the news at 10:45pm. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:08 | |
Here is Deborah. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
Last night, my husband and I got
home after a long day at work | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
and we do like to sit down and watch
the Ten O'Clock News. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
But it turns out a football match
was over running and the news had | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
to be displaced by 45 minutes. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:21 | |
I just don't think somebody's
got their head screwed on. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
If the football match
is that important, put it | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
on a different channel. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:27 | |
But I feel news comes
before football. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
Another sport caught the attention
of some viewers last Saturday, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
although not all of them might
describe it as a sport. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
Breakfast decided to look
at the world of bare knuckle boxing, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
with this report from Johnny
I'Anson. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:48 | |
Liam Cullan in Leeds has spent
a lifetime in combat sport, | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
but this weekend, he's fighting
for a world title in one | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
of the most extreme of all. | 0:01:53 | 0:02:00 | |
When I say the words,
bare knuckle boxing, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
you possibly think of gangsters
settling feuds in | 0:02:03 | 0:02:04 | |
old Victorian times. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
But there are a group of people
but determined to bring the sport | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
back to the mainstream and take it
legally to the masses. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
A Twitter user called Suzie Q
objected to that report, | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
writing that she was "disappointed"
the BBC is promoting | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
and endorsing violent sport. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:17 | |
"Gratuitous violence. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:18 | |
What's the difference
between this and a street brawl? | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
Hope there aren't too
many children watching. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
Shameful." | 0:02:22 | 0:02:23 | |
Now, not for the first time,
we are in the middle of a winter | 0:02:23 | 0:02:31 | |
of difficulties and challenges
for the national health service. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
BBC News has been reporting them
with considerable attention. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:40 | |
Tonight at Six, an apology from
Theresa May after new figures reveal | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
pressure on the NHS this winter. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
From ambulance transfer delays,
unprecedented calls to the helpline | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
and operations postponed. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:57 | |
A stark claim by doctors. | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
Winter pressures have left
patients dying prematurely | 0:02:59 | 0:03:00 | |
in hospital corridors. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:01 | |
They say safety in A&E units
in England and Wales | 0:03:01 | 0:03:07 | |
has been compromised
at a sometimes intolerable level. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
There is a clear emergency
and what a number of other observers | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
have clearly described as a crisis. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
One in ten nurses is leaving the NHS
in England every year, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
as the gap between those leaving
and joining the profession widens. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:26 | |
Hospital consultants in Wales say
patient safety is being compromised | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
and that the NHS and social care
are chronically under resourced. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
We've got patients that
are in the department where we don't | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
have space to see them and then
we are coming back the next day and | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
some of the patients are still here. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
It's getting worse every winter, but
this is the worst we have seen it. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
Viewer, Mike Hill,
reacted to the coverage | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
he'd seen by writing... | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
"Every year the BBC in January
encourages public hysteria | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
by sensationalist reporting. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:52 | |
An open door is offered to every
medical group, trade union, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
charity and politician
with the same crisis message. | 0:03:55 | 0:04:02 | |
And Robert put it like this... | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
"I am tired of hearing
the scurrilous comments | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
on BBC News programmes | 0:04:08 | 0:04:09 | |
running down the NHS and the annual
pressures they are | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
coping with admirably. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:13 | |
The nursing staff are
demoralised as a result." | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
Meanwhile, Brian Megson declared
himself a fan of BBC News, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
but he echoed those reservations. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:22 | |
What I don't enjoy is your constant
commentary about the NHS. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
You start off in December and then
you really let rip in January. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
Every day there's a report
about how bad it is, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
people dying in corridors,
not enough nurses, enough doctors. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:40 | |
There's always something wrong
with the NHS every day for you guys | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
and you really should stop it. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:44 | |
It's a wonderful organisation,
why can't you let it be? | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
It's a very big, tough organisation
to run for those who are running it | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
and I wish he would stop this
obsession and fixation with it. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
Well, Hugh Pym, the health editor
for BBC News is with me now. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
Thank you for coming Newswatch. | 0:04:58 | 0:04:59 | |
There is a sense that the NHS
in crisis story comes | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
around each winter. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:03 | |
Are you too negative
in how you focus on it? | 0:05:03 | 0:05:11 | |
Well, there's always
a balance to be struck, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
we are very aware of that. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:14 | |
The balance between recognising
that the NHS does a fantastic job | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
throughout the year and it is a very
popular and well | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
regarded institution. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:21 | |
The staff work extremely hard. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:22 | |
But also recognising that
if is under great pressure and staff | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
are feeling the pressure,
and that is often what we are being | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
told, then we need to report that. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
We need to hold the government
to account on the performance | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
of the NHS and the management
of the NHS in different | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
parts of the UK. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:37 | |
Now, this winter it's been made
abundantly clear to us by many | 0:05:37 | 0:05:43 | |
people on the front line,
that the pressure is greater | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
than they have known before,
even worse than last year. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
Many of them think
the NHS is underfunded. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
We've had stories from patients
as well about very, very long waits | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
in ambulances outside hospitals
and we have a duty to report that. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
You've absolutely made
the journalistic case | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
for why this is news,
it's about what is abnormal. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
But is there enough consideration
of the cumulative effect | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
of all the stories, that they might
actually be hurting peoples' | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
confidence and undermining staff
morale, which is what some viewers | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
are concerned about? | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
Well, a couple of the stories
we did just to highlight, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
as we've seen just a few minutes
ago, the letter from 68 | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
leading A&E consultants. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:24 | |
Again, on the front line of the NHS,
writing to the Prime Minister, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
saying they have very serious safety
concerns, that people | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
could be dying prematurely
because of waiting in corridors. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
That letter echoed by
consultants in Wales, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
writing to the First Minister. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
If that's how they feel in the NHS,
then I think we have to report that. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
And when it went out on social
media, there were a lot of tweets | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
from people in different parts
of the NHS, welcoming the fact | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
that senior clinicians
were speaking out like that. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
So in terms of the negative impact,
it's hard to tell with morale, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
but we have done positive stories
about the role of | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
nurses, for example. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
A whole day of coverage
on the valuable role they play. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
Also positive stories
about how some hospitals, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
in the face of great pressure,
are coping and are having | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
to devise ways of streaming
people through A&E. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
I highlighted a scheme in Ipswich. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
We've looked at the performance
of Luton's A&E, hitting | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
all their targets. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:17 | |
A video on our website on that. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:25 | |
So I think we do always
try to highlight the steps | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
which have been taken
to mitigate this pressure. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
It is interesting you mentioned
the day focused on nursing, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
because it was Jeremy Hunt,
the Health Secretary, tweeted that | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
while the BBC's focus was good,
he accused the BBC of underplaying | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
the increase in nurse
training places. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:40 | |
Does he have a point? | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
Well, we were highlighting the story
which was that last year, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
the year to September 2017,
more nurses had left the NHS band | 0:07:46 | 0:07:51 | |
the year to September 2017,
more nurses had left the NHS than | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
joined it in England. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
There was a 3000 gap and that hadn't
been seen at all in recent years. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
There was a small gap
in the previous year, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
but it had been positive a few
years before that. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
Highlighting the real
recruitment and retention | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
challenges the NHS has. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
The government's line is,
new training places have been set up | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
for a future flow of nurses
and we did report that. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
But they are, in a way,
different stories. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
Yes, planning for the
future is one thing, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
which the government
is trying to do. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:18 | |
What was the situation last year? | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
That was illustrated by the facts
we quoted from NHS Digital. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
It is very clear from our
conversation so far that there | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
is a real political issue in how
the NHS is being reported, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
given the government
and the opposition are saying very | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
different things about
the funding going into the NHS | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
and how it is being spent. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
How much of a challenge
is that reporting it? | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
It is a great challenge
because the flow of funding | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
is very complicated. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:44 | |
Yes, the government can say
they have put more money | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
into the NHS and others can say,
including Labour, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
that it's not enough. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
And that's of course, in some sense,
is a value judgment. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:58 | |
But there is an increasing view
across different parts | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
of the NHS and Royal colleges,
trade unions and think tanks, saying | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
that in England and also the UK,
spending is lagging behind what it | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
might be as a share
of national income. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
So getting that balance right
and also highlighting the need | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
for the NHS to be efficient and how
it can save money is always quite | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
a difficult thing to get right. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
But, there is now an increasing
debate about the need | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
for a cross-party view on this,
involving everyone across society, | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
how do they want the NHS to be
funded and social care? | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
Where is the money going to come
from, does it need more tax? | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
On this, of course,
the 70th year of the NHS. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
What is interesting,
is we started off talking | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
about viewers' concern that the BBC
is being too negative, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
but it has also been striking
that the BBC's logo for this story | 0:09:38 | 0:09:44 | |
is NHS winter. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
Whereas in the past it has been NHS
crisis, which the BBC | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
also got criticised for. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
Some might say, is the BBC being too
shy of being as hard as it needs | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
to be on this story? | 0:09:56 | 0:09:57 | |
We have been very careful
in our reporting not to use the word | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
crisis and not to brand it
as a crisis. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
It is for others to
make that assertion. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:10 | |
Many are, many doctors
as well as politicians are saying | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
it is an NHS crisis. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
I think the best we can
do is state the facts, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
state what is really
going on in hospitals, GP surgeries, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
community health, mental health,
right around the UK, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
state it as it is, make the debate
about funding as clear as possible | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
and then leave others to judge how
serious it is. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
I think no one can be in any doubt,
we have laid out there | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
for viewers and listeners,
there is a very serious state | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
of affairs in some parts of the NHS,
currently in January with flu | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
being a major problem. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:36 | |
We need to judge things
in the months ahead as to where | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
things go from here. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:40 | |
Hugh Pym, thank you so much. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:41 | |
Finally, in advance
of President Macron's visit | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
to the UK on Thursday,
MP Tom Tugendhat was speaking | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
to Breakfast presenter Charlie Stayt
about Anglo-French relations | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
when he found himself struggling
with a croaky throat. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:58 | |
It is true that our relationship
is incredibly close and incredibly | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
important for both of us. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
And we now have both got
a responsibility to make it | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
work on every level. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:10 | |
Thank you very much
for your time this morning. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
We will allow you to get a glass
of water to help your throat. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
Thank you for your
time this morning. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
Thank you. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:18 | |
Always annoying when those
frogs appear at the most | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
inopportune times. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
It's 7:21am... | 0:11:22 | 0:11:22 | |
Given that Frenchman,
President Macron, had just | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
been under discussion,
was that reference to a frog, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
a subtle, if rather
questionable joke, or just | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
an unfortunate coincidence? | 0:11:28 | 0:11:29 | |
A Twitter user called
The Mystery Man bought the former, | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
describing it as an amazing joke
and although some were less | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
impressed, a BBC spokesman said,
our guest appeared to be struggling | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
with a croaky voice and Naga
was simply referring to that. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
Thank you very much
for all your comments this week. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
We welcome all your opinions on BBC
News and current affairs, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
so do please get in touch with us... | 0:11:44 | 0:11:49 | |
That's all from us, we will be back
to hear your thoughts about BBC News | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
coverage again next week. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:06 | |
Goodbye. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:16 |