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Hallowed, I am Ros Atkins and welcome to Outside Source. --

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hello. The French and Russian presidents bowing to work together.

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TRANSLATION: Are happy to walk great with the coalition headed by the US.

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-- we are happy. Here in London David Cameron has made the case for

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air strikes to be carried out in Syria. It has been causing some

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problems for the opposition leader, we will explain how. We will also

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answer to the questions you have sent us about the Russian plane that

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was shot down by Turkey. Sebastian Coates is also in the news, he is

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stepping down from his advisory role at Nike. Coe. -- Coe. We will pick

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up all of your comments and questions, we will definitely reply

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to you online and in some cases answer you on the television.

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So today we have learnt a lot more about how the world plans to respond

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to the Islamic state. Including a renewed push the UK to begin air

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strikes in Syria. More on that in a moment, first to Moscow. In the last

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hour and a half president Hollande and President Putin have been giving

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a press conference. TRANSLATION: This is the first reality of the

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coalition that France would like to put to the whole world against

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terror. This consensus is vital, but it is not enough, we will also have

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to shoulder our responsibilities. What France is doing is striking the

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international centres and the camps of Dhaish. We think it will be

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better to create one single coalition. This is exactly what I

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meant when I spoke at the UN. If our partners are not prepared for this,

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then OK, we are happy to work in a different format. The BBC's Steve

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Rosenberg was at that conference, we have made a connection to him in the

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last few moments which is good news, we cannot see him, but I think we

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can hear him. Steve, what did you think was the most significant thing

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about what the two president said? I think it was interesting. Russia and

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France have agreed to work together to fight terrorism, to exchange

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information, to coordinate attacks against Islamic State in Syria, but

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there is no sign yet of the kind of grand coalition against terror of

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which the French president had been talking about after the Paris

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attacks. At one point President Putin was scathing about the United

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States, he suggested that Turkey had received information from America

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about the location of the jet that the Turkish air force shot down, he

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mention that twice in the press conference. A lot of anger on the

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half of President Putin towards the US. Much is made of how France is

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close to Russia the novel Western nations. -- is closer to Russia than

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other Western nations. How do you think these two men came across? I

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was looking for the body language, to be honest I did not be much of

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it. I thought what was interesting, at the first meeting when they shook

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hands and exchanged a few words before the main negotiations, when

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President Putin talks to the French president he used the formal term

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for you in Russian, but when Francois Hollande talked to Vladimir

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Putin, he used the familiar form of you. It is interesting what you read

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into that, the politics of grammar. A difference there with one word. As

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for the body language, I did not detect much. What was also

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interesting, what they said about President Assad. At one point the

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French president said that President Assad could play no role in Syria's

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future, President Putin said it was up to the Syrian people to decide

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about their future. There is a major difference on the question of

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President Assad. Russia has paid a price that its involvement in Syria,

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Islamic State appears to have brought down the Russian airliner in

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Sinai, one of the crew was lost when Turkey shot down that plane earlier

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in the week. Is there any sign that Russian public opinion is wavering

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because of the price that is being paid? No. I have to say not yet. In

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part because that is because of President Putin's popularity. His

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sky-high approval rating. Also because I think the Kremlin is in

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control of the television here. It is vital in this country, it is so

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influential in altering public opinion. Since the Kremlin controls

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television, it controls the message it is putting out the public and the

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message they are putting out right now is it is important to get back

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at Islamic State, operation retribution they are calling it at

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the moment and that is the message which is being put out. I think you

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might consider that when Russia began its military operation, seven

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or eight weeks ago, President Putin made clear to the Russian people

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that Russia was starting air strikes in Syria to protect the Russian

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people from IS launching attacks here. You may think that because a

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passenger jet was blown up over Sinai in an attack linked to IS and

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because a Russian bomber was downed this week over Syria, you may think

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the Russians may start to question this whole operation and think we

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are not safer, that is not happening. Still there is a lot of

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support for President Putin in the operation there. We got through to

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Steve which is good news because he had just come from the conference

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held by President Putin and president Hollande. Let's pick up on

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another important point in the story. David Cameron has brought

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renewed urgency to get Parliamentary approval for UK air strikes in

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Syria. You may remember two years ago Mr Cameron lost a vote on

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military action in Syria, but one of the things we should emphasise is

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that is about attacking the Assad regime, this is about Islamic State.

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Let's hear some of what he had to say. Statement, the Prime Minister.

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Thank you Mr Speaker. We should not be content with outsourcing our

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security to our allies. If we believe that action can help protect

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us, then with our allies we should be part of that action, not standing

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aside from it. When our friend and ally France has been struck in this

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Wade, then our friends and allies could be left thinking if not now,

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when? -- this way. We have to hit the terrorists in their heartlands

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right now, we must not shirk our responsibility. We think the

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presence of western boots on the ground in that way would be

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counter-productive. That is one of the things we have all collectively

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across the house learnt in previous conflicts and we don't want to make

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that the stake again. It looks like the French government thinks this is

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a good idea, here is one quote from the defence Minister.

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Let's quickly look at who is involved in the anti-IS coalition.

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Clearly the Americans, France as well, to the list you can add Saudi

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Arabia, UAE, Qatar, we have put the Canadian flag there, it has been

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involved, but the new government says it will be withdrawing from a

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combat role and we should not forget as well, Turkey has been carrying

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out some strikes against IS and Russia has as well although Russia

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has also been targeting some Syrian rebel groups. Let's talk about the

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politics of this weird Rosol kins. Is a deal? Is this going to go

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through? -- with Ross Hawkins. Cameron lost a vote on those two

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years ago and it was a humiliating defeat. He does not want to do it

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again. He has made it absolutely clear that he would only seek the

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permission of British MPs to bomb Syria if he was certain that he

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would win. Throw into that political calculation the chaos that is within

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the opposition Labour Party at the moment and you will know why this is

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very far from a done deal. The Leader of the Opposition Jeremy

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Corbyn, long a campaigner against military conflict, has said publicly

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that he would vote against any attempt to bomb Syria. Many of his

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colleagues take the opposing view. There is no hope at the moment of a

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collective opinion from the Labour Party, there are some furious rows

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going on behind-the-scenes. It is very difficult David Cameron to have

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a good or accurate guess as to how many Labour MPs he would have onside

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if you went back to the House of Commons. I'm trying to remember when

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an opposition party has been like this in UK politics, the whipping

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system where in the end most of the system where in the end most of the

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party goes in one direction or the other has almost broken down. I

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spent the night in the House of Commons and I have never known a

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situation like this where so many Shadow Cabinet members on so many

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keys, so many others involved in the party are so damning and

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condemnatory of the man who leads them. Jeremy Corbyn was elected with

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a huge mandate by Labour Party members and by people who signed up

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to have a vote in that election and frankly they take a very different

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view of the world from Labour MPs as a whole and most definitely those in

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Jeremy Corbyn's top team. There is no way of reconciling those two

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views and it means next week will be very difficult for Labour and that

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could, I only say could, a fact whether Britain decides to bomb

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Syria or not. -- affect. I have mentioned that Vladimir Putin has

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been meeting with Francois Hollande and they have been focusing on

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Islamic State, but that is not the only thing he has been thinking

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about. This has also preoccupied him. He promised consequences within

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minutes of that Russian plane being shot down by Turkey and we are

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starting to see them now. We have wide-ranging economic sanctions

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coming in. Another important details started coming through on the news

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agencies a couple of hours ago. Bearing in mind that Turkey is the

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biggest foreign destination for Russian tourists and that is a

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significant move. That is going on, as well as that, the row over

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whether the Russian plane was ever in Turkish airspace very much

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continues. There is no dispute over the general area where it was, we

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know it was close to the tacky where the Russians have an airbase. --

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Latakia. This line is where the Turks say the plane felucca, the red

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line is the one the Russians say was taken. You can see it clearly going

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below Turkish territory. It is raising lots and lots of questions

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quite understandably. I think the answer to this is that

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we do know where that plane was, at least some people do. That data will

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exist, but at the moment it is not in the public domain, Russia can say

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one thing and Turkey another. You are quite right to suggest that

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these countries probably do know exactly where the plane was and

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other countries like America may well do too. At the moment without

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the information in the public domain you can have two narratives and it

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is impossible for one person to prove it one way or the other.

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Another question we got during last night 's edition of Outside Source,

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we got a number of people asking: I didn't know the answer to this and

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lots of you started tweeting media answer which I was very grateful

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for. This boils down to this problem is here. The bottom area is where

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the Russian plane went, but this is about the broader province. We want

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to explain why it is in Turkey and not in Syria. The province has been

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part of Turkey since 1939, but you look at the map and see Turkey, the

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question raises why? If you see Turkey, it is just a rectangle and

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it is a small part of the territory retreat extending towards Syria. It

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has a history. -- which is extending towards Syria. After the world War

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Britain and France were carving up their areas of influence and the

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province became part of Syria and Lebanon on mandated by the French.

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Turkish Republic started to push for taxation in that area, because there

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was a huge Turkish speaking population in the province. Other

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powers decided to grant that wish, because they wanted Turkey to stay

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neutral. It has become a part of the Turkish Republic since then. That

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did not go so well with Syria. The Syrian officials refused to

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recognise the new borders, but the issue took a back-seat in missionary

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and became dormant. It is raise rarely. I have just tweeted that

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video if you would like to see it or share it with anyone. A bit later on

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Outside Source we will be looking at this. Bush fires that have been

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engulfing large areas of South Australia. This is part of the video

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of one man as he drove through them, I will play you the whole thing a

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little bit later. Now on another day this would have

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been the lead story in the UK, net migration has hit an all-time high,

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the difference between the number of people coming to live in Britain and

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those emigrating with 336,000 in the 12 months to the end of June. Here

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is the Immigration Minister James Brock and those emigrating with

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336,000 in the 12 months to the end of June. Here is the Immigration

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Minister James Brokenshire, who says they still want to get immigration

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down. We want to see that firms are not reliant on overseas labour and

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also we want to look at students. There is a net difference of 93,000

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on student numbers. We welcome students coming to our country to

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study, but it is important they leave at the end of their studies

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and it is that area we will be looking at closely in terms of

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further changes. This I am Ros Atkins -- I am Ros

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Atkins on Outside Source. The Russian leaders are going to be

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sharing military information with France. First to Kenya where Pope

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Francis celebrated Mass in front of a huge crowd in Nairobi. He also met

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was in and Christian leaders where he emphasised the importance of

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dialogue. -- in Muslim and Christian areas. Good news for all of you who

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have bought Adele new album, she will be on torso. -- tour soon. Here

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is Astoria I was not expecting, the sport editor has been tweeting about

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the fact that Sebastien Coe is stepping down from his ambassadorial

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role at Nike. Questions have been coming and coming about this role

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with Nike. Here is what Lord Coe had to say earlier. I don't believe it

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was a conflict-of-interest, I have always declared my interest with

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Nike as I a range of activities. It was purely on the basis that I felt

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that I needed to be able to focus on flinching the on the challenges

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ahead. -- along with a range of activities. It had become a

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distraction. There is no doubt about that. Let's hear our

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correspondent's analysis. Ever since he became the most powerful man in

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athletics, he has faced tough questions. Whether or not it was

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right that he retained a paid role for Nike. Those questions only

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intensified earlier this week when the BBC obtained an e-mail which

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appeared to show that he had been in discussion with a senior Nike

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executive over a bid for the 2021 for the world athletics

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Championships in Eugene. He says it does not constitute a conflict of

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interest, the pressure seems to have told though. He said it is not

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because it is wrong, but because of the noise around the controversy.

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Others say the timing is interesting, coming just two days

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after that story, the calls for him to quit the role mirror Nike's

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slogan, just do it. Time for OS business and we have been discussing

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relations between Turkey and Russia being poor because of the shop down

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Russian plane. They have close economic ties, this will be felt by

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businesses in both. -- shot down. Last year 4.5 million Russian

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tourists visited Turkey. However, President Putin has now warned

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citizens against visiting the country because of security risks.

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And one of Russia's the largest travel agencies has said it will

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suspend selling package tours to the country. Turkey and Russia are also

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major energy and commodity partners. Turkey is the second biggest buyer

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of Russian natural gas after Germany and relies on Russia for oil, steel

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and wheat supplies. The tensions may jeopardise a raft of projects

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including a nuclear project in Turkey that is worth some $20

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billion and a gas pipeline that is a Keira should project. That report

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from Tanya. This is another report, it is about another product that is

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going to allow youthful opponents in your home. It has been shown at a

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tech show in New York. It is a home monitoring device, it

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has a sensor and a carbon monoxide sensor and a speaker and microphone.

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This is a ball that drives the camera. There is one sensor

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installed right here. This is a processing unit. There is the camera

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patch right here. Do you fancy that? Not so sure about

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that. Interesting report. Let's talk about this story, this is about an

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app that you can get on Facebook. My most used words. It accesses your

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data, it takes everything from Facebook, age, gender, education,

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history, anything you have ever liked on Facebook, that will raise

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some privacy issues. The company behind the app has said:

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I have some more information from our tech reporter. I wanted to

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understand if despite these reassurances we should be worried

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about this. Everyone has taken part in one of these quizzes, whether to

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test your IQ or to see which Caribbean island you are most suited

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to living on. Their run loads of quite silly quizzes and when people

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click on them, often a box says we will need access to your profile

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data and that is all the things you have mentioned before, anything you

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have ever liked or posted on your timeline. There is an awful lot of

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data they need the quizzes. Sometimes they need it for the

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generation of the quiz. You can only get the words you have used most on

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Facebook by accessing your Facebook data. Some of the stories we will be

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covering in the next half an hour, we will definitely be talking about

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Islamic State. The BBC's cheap correspondent -- chief correspondent

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will be talking about that. We will also be talking about a glazier that

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is shrinking. All of those coming up in the next in minutes. -- few

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minutes. The developing El Nino has

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