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Hello, I'm Nuala McGovern, this is Outside Source.

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At least 18 people are dead after a flyover collapsed

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Emergency services continue to work frantically to rescue people trapped

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Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump

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This time it's for his comments on abortion.

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Katty Kay will be with me to talk us through the story.

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The West Indies have beaten India to reach the final of cricket's

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Don't forget you can get in touch with us.

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Donald Trump is in the news again, this time for his comments

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The Republican hopeful said in an interview that if abortion

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were made illegal, women should be held responsible and punished

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But hours later he issued a clarification, saying

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doctors should be legally responsible, not women.

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So far so normal, another town hall, another interview, another highly

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provacative comment from the Republican front runner.

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This time on abortion, and what should happen to women

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who have the procedure if it has been outlawed.

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You do believe in punishment in principle?

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The answer is that there has to be some form of punishment.

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Yes, there has to be some punishment.

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You take positions on everything else.

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I take positions and it's a very complicated position.

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Then things went askew, yes, he was under fire from some

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To punish a woman for having an abortion is beyond comprehension.

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What he said today is just among the most outrageous and dangerous

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statements I have heard anybody running for president say

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What he hadn't anticipated was that his own backers would pile

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I don't think he was prepared and I don't think

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He had to walk it back and issue a statement to clarify

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It was a terrible answer, no one will defend what he said,

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because the idea of, well, we have do have some punishment,

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and even in his answer it looked as though he was fumbling around

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The statement was a spectacular U-turn.

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Donald Trump is in Washington today meeting his foreign policy advisers,

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but perhaps when he needs most help is with women.

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Since issuing the statement last night to has had nothing to say

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about the controversy on social media - very unusual for him.

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For the first time we have seen Donald Trump on the run

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Let's cross to my colleague Katty Kay in Washington DC. Good to have

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you back with us, Katty. Another day, another Donald Trump headline,

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I don't know how many we are hitting so far, probably seven. But let's

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have a look at the larger picture for the Republican field, perhaps,

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to begin with. Generally speaking, I would say when

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Donald Trump says something outrageous and gets nonstop media

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coverage it seems to be good for his campaign. That has been the case

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every time. Whatever the controversial statement, however

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outrageous the press seems to think it is, the poll mums go up. I think

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this may be different because women in America decide elections. They

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are the swing voters, if you like. Donald Trump has a problem in the

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polls with women. He has something like a 20% gap between his support

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among men and his support among women. If he wants to win the

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nomination and the presidency, he has to close that gap. Comments like

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the one he made on abortion and the fact that women who have abortion

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should be punished, do nothing to endear him to swing voters,

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especially female voters. And he has changed his position when

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it comes to the issue of abortion, described previously as pro-choice,

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now he calls himself pro-life. How important is it as an issue in the

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electorate? A decade ago, rum thrum rum described him as very, very

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pro-choice. So there is some scepticism among Christian

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conservatives for whom it is an issue, as to whether he is pro-

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choice or pro-life. You would think that would really hurt him in the

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polls but looking at the primary races, Donald Trump has done well

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amongst the evangelical voters. They have seemed to have said, he is a

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little squishy on the issue, we don't know what his issue is, if he

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is as pro- life as we like him to be but we are voting him any way. What

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is different this time around is that the pro-life community, the

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Christian conservatives have come out against Donald Trump as

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indignantly as the pro- choice. That has prompted this unique U-turn that

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he made on a policy issue. We have eight months until the big

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day. How would you describe the landscape, I know, how would you

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describe the landscape now? What should our viewers be watching for?

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You have to give him the odds-on favourite of being the Republican

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nominee. Yes this put him in trouble, yes the poll numbers are

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slipping in the next crucial primary, that is Wisconsin next

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Tuesday, where he is behind Ted Cruz. But he still has the most

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number of delegates so far. He is still the front runner on the

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Republican race. On the Democrat side, where we have not spoken as

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much, Donald Trump seems to suck up the oxygen in the race, Hillary

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Clinton is getting a tough run from Bernie Saunders. He is staying in

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the race longer that Hillary Clinton thought. But she mainly looks like

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becoming the nom flee for the Democrat. So Clintan more likely to

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be the Democrat nominee, than Donald Trump, the Republican nominee. It is

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an interesting race. Katty Kay, thank you very much.

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Speaking to Outside Source about that US presidential election.

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Once again, Qatar is facing accusations of worker abuse leading

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The country had previously been accused of treating

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And Qatar has repeatedly said it's working to improve

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The new accusation centres around the construction

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building: the flagship Khalifa International Stadium

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Amnesty International says forced labour was used in the construction.

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Yet again Qatari authorities face accusations of human rights abuses

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in their country. Now World Cup workers are affected. Amnesty

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International secretly interviewed 230 of them, over allegations that

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they were paid lower salaries than promised and were forced to work

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against their will. Forced labour persists as employees had to hand

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over power to employers, who control when they leave the country or

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change jobs. The government says a law in December will change that to

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allow workers to appeal if they are denied an exit permit. But the

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United Nations watchdog is sceptical, giving Qatar until March

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2017 to prove that the reforms work or it will launch an official

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inquiry. So five years after Qatar won the chance to host the Fifa

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World Cup, why aren't the workers' rights guaranteed in one of the

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wealthiest countries on earth? If the new leadership of Fifa is

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watching this for the next six years between now and the World Cup and

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the end up there in 2022, and the World Cup is built on the back off

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the exploitation of labourer it will be shameful.

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Fifa say that they take the allegations seriously and action has

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been taken. There have been four companies

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covered. One company has been banned from the project. And they have to

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make progress on delivering commitments to the standards.

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Another company has become a benchmark in how to comply with the

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standards and malters improved significantly.

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Soon 32,000 more migrants will start work on World Cup projects where

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right now serious accusations of abuse continue to play out under the

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eyes of the authorities that promised things would change.

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It was a defeat that silenced the crowd in Mumbai.

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West Indies beat the cricket mad nation India, to deny it a chance

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to go onto the World Twenty Twenty final.

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India thought Virat Kohli had done enough to power them to victory.

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It was a defeat the host nation didn't expect -

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as our correspondent in Mumbai, Sameer Hashmi told me earlier.

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The build up was huge. From the timing of qualifying to the

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semi-finals. You saw people anticipating that India would go on

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and reach the finals. Most people expected that. We went to the

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stadium earlier in the day. We met many people there. Everyone

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confident that India would be the winners. As the tournament is

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happening in India, everyone thought India the favourites to win this as

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the team have been playing well. After the defeat, the people here

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were so disappointed that they could not believe India lost. Most thought

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that they would go on. So a big disappointment for a country that

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loves cricket so much. Cricket is a religion over here! How

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would you describe it? Why didn't they win? They are the favourites?

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They are at home? Well, T20 is a funny game. India got the danger man

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Gale out in the second over. Everyone thought that they had the

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match. But there was a strong partnership between Charles and

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Samuels that built a foundation. And the middle order came to the

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rescue and they continued. What cost India the match was two wickets.

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Both time as no ball so they could not claim the wicket. That was

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expensive for India. I would say that was the turning point.

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I would say that was the turning point.

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Five players from the United States women's football team have filed

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a federal complaint alleging unequal pay.

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The World and Olympic champion squad members are accusing US Soccer

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of wage discrimination, insisting they should be paid

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They say they are not not being treated equally with men.

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Let's get more from from Kate Dailey, who has been

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Good to have you with us, Kate. Talk us through some of the issues that

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the women players say are unequal? They have filed a suit with the

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equal employment and opportunity community in the US that looks into

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whether or not men and women are paid the same amount for the same

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work. What the women are saying is not only are they not paid the same

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amount for the same work but are paid less for better work. The

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women's television ratings for the World Cup broke records. The women's

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teams won championships, World Cups, the men have not done so well. The

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women are bringing in a lot more money for the 2017 year that they

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$5 million profit while the men $5 million profit while the men

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operating a $1 million loss. So the women saying doing better, making

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more money and in some cases a lot more money. In some cases when the

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men show up to games or friendlies, they are given $5,000 for showing

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up, the women less than half, and only if they win. So the women are

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saying that they have been patient. Waiting for the league to do the

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right thing, now they are not going to wait. It is not just about the

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money but many other issues in how women are treated. In the World Cup

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last year, there were issues about whether or not women would play on

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turf. It means more injuries, poorer ball play. So these women have said,

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enough is enough. We are tired of waiting, that they want the league

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to step up and do the right thing. Really trillioning, Kate thank you

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very much. We'll keep an eye on that story.

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Later we bring you the report on Palmyra to the programme.

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Ronnie Corbett, a comic legend and one half of the Two Ronnies

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double act, has died at the age of 85.

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He passed away in hospital surrounded by his family.

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I look down on him because I am upper-class.

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I look up to him because he is upper-class.

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But I look down on him because he is lower class.

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By the time he recorded that famous sketch with

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John Cleese and Ronnie Barker, Ronnie Corbett was already

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But it was the Two Ronnies with Ronnie Barker

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They brought genial comedy into peoples' homes.

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Chosen subject is to answer the question before.

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When they reunited for a Royal Variety Show

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years later it was clear how much they had been laughed.

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years later it was clear how much they had been loved.

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We always say a one-off, and he certainly was a one-off

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His particular contribution were the monologues he delivered

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from an easy chair, often including jokes about his own height.

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The younger generation of comics like Harry Enfield viewed him

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And many grew up watching one of Britain's's most loved comedy

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For the last time, it is good night from me...

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This is Outside Source live from the BBC newsroom.

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Our lead story is: At least 18 are dead after a flyover collapsed

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Dozens more people are thought to be trapped under the rubble.

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The president of Afghanistan, Ashraf Ghani has told the BBC he has

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no sympathy for the thousands of people trying

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Afghans are the second largest group of migrants trying

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This graph shows the number of asylum applications by country

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Yalda Hakim has been speaking to the Afghan president.

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They began by talking about the country's future.

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We will survive. We survived in 2015. 2015 was a test of you are

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vial. Is survival what Afghanistan is

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measured again? No. No. It is measured vis-a-vis Syria,

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vis-a-vis... The bar, unfortunately, has been lowered but that is not the

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bar Which? Our people measure themselves. Why is there a mass

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exodus in this country? As I explained, we are a poor society.

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This is not the first time these people have moved. We have to make a

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commitment. 549 young men and women graduated from the military academy.

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They are making a commitment to defend this country. Others on whom

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we have spent... Hundreds of millions of dollars want to leave

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under the slightest pressure. It is not the slightest pressure,

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though, the last year has seen the worst form of violence.

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Is it better elsewhere? Well they seem to think so. They are making

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that very dangerous journey. Please. The journey is made

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voluntarily. They are paying $10,000, $30,000. They are

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impoverishing their families in order to make the journey as that

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journey was based on false assumptions. But they have made a

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choice to leave. When they leave they break the social contract. This

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needs to be understood. Theirs have an existential choice. Countries

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don't survive by their best attempting to flee. So I have no

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sympathy. My goal is to make sure that my

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people live with dignity, with hope and with determination.

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Is this a country at war? Yes. It's a country that is become the

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platform for a regional and global war.

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We are at war but we are not at Civil War. The war between our

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fronts is a very small component of regional and global. Al-Qaeda,

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unfortunately, has gone deep and dark but it is fully alive. While

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Daesh captures the news we need to focus, otherwise, God forbid we will

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have another surprise. How is it that the Taliban are

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stronger than ever today in Afghanistan? Because their regional

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support work is in tact. So is Pakistan playing a double

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game? It is for others to react. Do you think that they are playing a

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double game. We engage with Pakistan. We defined

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the problem. I have said from the time of my visit last year to

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Pakistan, that it is an endeclared war between us. It is an undeclared

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state of hostility between us, we need to end it. We have made

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significant progress on paper to the quadry lateral process, now we need

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to see whether there is going to be a clearance to those commitments or

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whether what you call a double game is being played.

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On Monday we brought you the news that the Syrian town of Palmyra had

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been retaken by the Syrian army, after 10 months of occupation

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The area is home to many historically important

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Islamic State made headlines around the world

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by destroying many of the best known.

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Assaf Abboud from BBC Arabic was one of the first journalists

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Last month, a gorilla was born at Bristol Zoo in England.

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What was special about her delivery was that it happened

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Staff say she's doing well, and has even been given

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The Zoo said we could take our cameras to film her,

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Lindsey looks like any proud mum, carrying a newborn through the park.

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But look closely in her sling, this is a seven-week-old baby

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It was on a Friday last month that she was born in a rare

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Caesarean operation when her mother became unwell.

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Until Mum has fully recovered, Afia needs to be hand reared

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by staff at Bristol Zoo.

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Which even involves taking her home with them at night.

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Lindsey told me that she sleeps with Afia downstairs

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while her husband and two human children sleep upstairs.

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I get my bed set up for the evening, I might watch a bit of telly

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and have a cup of tea, but I'm always aware of feeds

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and trying to get myself some sleep in between them.

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Just like you are when you have young babies at home.

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You are snatching sleep where you can.

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My husband jokes, we could have a third one,

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Zookeepers say the priority is to get Afia back with her gorilla

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family where the public can see her, but it will take time,

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first she has to get to know her relatives like Dad,

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Jock, and if her real mum can't bring her up then Auntie Remina

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is said to be showing maternal interest.

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In the meantime, though, she has got Lindsey.

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Outside Source is back with you on Monday, I do hope you can join us

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then but for me and the team in London, goodbye.

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