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Welcome back to Outside Source. Let's look at some of the main

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stories here. Result's president Dilma Rousseff has been suspended

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and will now be put on trial in the Senate. She has described the whole

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matter as a coup. Donald Trump is in the headlines

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again. He needs more support from the Republican leadership than he is

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getting at the moment. Today, you met Paul Ryan, the party bat most

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senior member. This is what he said afterwards.

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I do believe that we are now planting the seeds to get ourselves

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unified, to bridge the gaps and differences.

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We are also going to talk about Brazil, again, not with reference to

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the political crisis. This is to do with the Rio Olympic Games. An

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American health expert is arguing that because of the Zika virus, they

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should be cancelled. We will speak to him live in 15 minutes. And sport

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is coming up in a couple of minutes. We will discuss whether the very

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fierce connection between money and success in the Premier League has

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perhaps been loosened a little this season.

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A couple of minutes ago, I said that we were expecting the new interim

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president of Brazil to start speaking. Let's see what is coming

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in on the live feed now. There he is. Let's bring up the sound.

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TRANSLATION: We invite to sign the term of office and take their

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places, Mr Padilla, Minister for the Cabinet Office.

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APPLAUSE So, this is Michel Temer, until very

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recently, the vice president. He had been an ally of Dilma

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Rousseff. I don't think we would describe him that way any more. This

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is the first time that Brazilians are going to get to hear him lay out

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in some detail what he intends to do while they lead the country, and as

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we heard earlier from our reporter in Sao Paulo, one of his problems

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won't be outlining his policies, it will be actually getting them

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through and putting them into action, because while he has some

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support, and certainly, there are people within Brazilian politics who

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wanted Dilma Rousseff to go, evidently, and here he is. Signing

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what I assume is an important document, perhaps furthering his

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position as interim president. Certainly, lots of people are

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welcoming his arrival into power, but not everyone is, and so, it will

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be difficult for him to get things done. The Senate has 180 days to

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conduct a trial of Dilma Rousseff and decide whether she should be

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permanently removed from office, so there is a possibility that she

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could come back into power at some point. In which case, Michel Temer

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would serve out the remainder of her term if she were found guilty to the

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end of December 20 18. So he could lead Brazil for a significant period

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of time. But there is going to be an issue of legitimacy, as Camilla was

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explaining. This is not a man who stood for the highest office. He

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hasn't got the highest profile in Brazil. There will be questions

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about whether Brazilians will accept this man, Michel Temer, as their

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leader all the way to the end of 2018. That is getting ahead of

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ourselves. First, you must take power well Dilma Rousseff is tried

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in the Senate, and that will be something that will take months, not

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years. -- he must take power. We have ended up in this situation

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because of an extraordinary debate in the Brazilian Senate. This time

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yesterday, I showed you live feeds from the Senate. The debate had been

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going on for hours, continuing through our programme. I went home,

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looked at it on television, went to bed and got up the next morning, and

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the debate was still going on. It took 20 hours, and what was about

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that was, everyone knew what the outcome would be. It was widely

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expected the Brazilian Senate would vote to begin impeachment

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proceedings, and so it did. Despite the fact he is close to a variety of

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microphones, no sign the new interim president is actually going to begin

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talking, so we will keep an eye on that live feed, and when he starts

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talking, we will show that to you on Outside Source.

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In the meantime, let's into a big event in London today, which we have

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been building up to all week. A major international conference on

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corruption which started today. One major announcement is that these

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countries, Kenya, Nigeria and Afghanistan, as well as the

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Netherlands, France and the UK are all agreeing to publish details

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about who really benefits from the companies which operate in their

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territory. On top of those measures, we will also have a new

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anti-corruption coordination centre, based in London, which will in

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theory help governments exchange information on these issues, and

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will particularly focus on the recovery of stolen assets.

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Campaigners say, hold on, there are already a lot of those hidden in the

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UK, and certainly, the UK Government has acknowledged that to some

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degree, saying, foreign companies are owning around 100,000 properties

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across the UK, but almost half of those are in London. It should say

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it is not clear how many of those are links to corruption. To

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understand more about these announcements and which our most

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significant, I talked to Richard Galpin, who is covering the

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conference. This agreement that six countries so far have agreed to

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establish public registers of all the companies they have registered

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on their territory, I think that is a very significant step forward,

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because of course, the fact that they are hidden, as they are equally

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in this country at the moment, means of course that corrupt officials,

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criminals, can hide money in those companies, and move it around

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without being able to be traced and court.

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So I think that is a step forward. A note of caution, it is six

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countries, and there are about 48 countries attending the summit, so

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there is still a long way to go. There is also the key issue of the

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tax havens, like the British Virgin Islands, which are British Overseas

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Territories. There has been a lot of focus on them, and opening up the

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registers there. We know the owners of the companies they are, but so

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far, they have refused, especially in the British Virgin Islands, to

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have public registers of the owners of companies. They say they will

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pass information on to different countries, but only to law

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enforcement agencies and tax agencies of the countries.

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I would like to talk more about London in particular. Our view is

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all around the world will be interested to hear about how

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significant this city has become. Was that issue particularly

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addressed? Yes, I think to the extent that

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Prime Minister David Cameron has announced that all foreign companies

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wanting to invest in property in this country will have to do reveal

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the identities of the owners of companies, because you are getting

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quite a lot coming from the tax havens, buying properties. As you

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say, a huge amount of money, a huge number of properties being bought in

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this country, and clearly, the authorities need to know who the

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owners of those companies are so that they can screen out any corrupt

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money, and certainly, anti-corruption campaigners are

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saying that tens of billions, perhaps more than that, slosh is

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through Britain, and in particular through London, every year, so it is

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a significant amount of money. Thank you to Richard for that. Next,

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time for sport. Let's get into the connection

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between money and success in English football over the last 20 years.

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With the Premier League, that connection has looked very, very

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close indeed, but actually, the Premier League is offering is

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something different this season. There is one round of matches to go,

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but we already know who has won, and which three teams are going down.

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This all played out last night during our programme. Sunderland

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beat Everton 3-0, keeping Sunderland up and making it inevitable that

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Roberto Martinez will be sacked by Everton. That has come to pass

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today. It also means the league table doesn't make great reading for

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Aston Villa, Norwich or Newcastle fans. All three are definitely down,

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and you don't need me to tell you that Leicester City won the

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championship. They were almost relegated last season, and they are

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champions now. They won with a team with about ?23 million, which is a

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lot, lot less than the value of, say, Newcastle's team. Earlier, the

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Daily Telegraph said that Newcastle are the most expensive Premier

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League flops ever. Let's bring in Conor McNamara, one of the BBC's

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football commentators and analysts. That is Richard! I want to see

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Connor. Good to see you. It is difficult to draw conclusions from

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one season, but doesn't it be, particularly in the case of

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Newcastle, that you can't be solved the problem by throwing money at it?

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No, this is a season in which, in many regards, the rule book has been

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ripped up and thrown out of the window. Leicester City have spent a

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paltry amount and managed to get success, and drawn else must

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replicate that. Where we have traditionally seen owners and

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managers to wring money into football clubs is when they fear

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relegation, and this season more than ever, there is more money in

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the TV pot coming in the summer than ever before. This is the one year

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you really don't want to get relegated, and a loss of the foreign

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owners, and American owners who have come in, they pump money in,

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expecting to see dividends. You see. The and in places like Newcastle,

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50,000 people for every home game, but what a lot of the owners don't

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realise is, relegation comes in. Take Newcastle United. Miss

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performing massively on the football pitch, relegated this season with

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one game to go. In terms of their financial numbers, they have

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actually made money this season. We know their owner Mike Ashley is a

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very successful businessman, in sports and leisure wear retail, and

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he makes a lot of money with this, even though Newcastle have gone

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down. Remarkably, in the last year, they have actually made money. The

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problem is going forward, they will be getting this new Premier League

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payment, and that is how they risk losing more money as time goes on.

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So even with this season, the big clubs were rich, still are rich, but

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the mid-table teams, the lower teams, have actually got more money

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to spend and can bring in higher quality players and perhaps they

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could have done 5-10 years ago? Yes, there is a very high cache a

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lot of player, the Leonel Messis, the Cristiano Ronaldos, who,

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regardless of how much money you have, you are unable to attract to

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any Premier League team. Even the big names, Manchester United,

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Chelsea, or Manchester City, will struggle to attract those players.

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So top clubs in England than have to start with their huge bank balances

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and start bidding for the tear down from that, and you end up getting

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guys like Angel di Maria, a big-name real Madrid, but not a star in a

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team. Manchester United played 70 million for him. Anthony Martial was

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virtually unknown, and a huge amount of money spent on him as well. So

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even though they can't get the top calibre of players, because they

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have Big Bang balances, -- big bank balances, those transfers will go

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up. There is an old saying in football, how do you become a

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millionaire? And the answer is, you be a billionaire and buy a football

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club! This is nothing new in terms of how money can vanish, with these

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astronomical fees, regardless of what level you are right.

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Before you go, we know who the champion is and who is going down.

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One thing that is to be sorted is who is getting the Champions League

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fourth-place. This ties in with our conversation. If you years ago, that

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money would have guaranteed a top four place for Manchester City.

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These days, not so? Yes, very much a rivalry between

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Manchester City, the new money, but Manchester United have found

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themselves a bit down in the doldrums in terms of their

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performance, and going back to financial clout, Manchester United

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are making as much money as ever. This is the very strange thing in

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football. You have season tickets for next year which have already

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been very much subscribed for. These two clubs' business plan is geared

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up to being in the Champions League. They get a lot of money through

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other revenue streams, the Premier League, but it is the prestige of

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being in the Champions League, being able to attract big-name players

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from everywhere and work elsewhere, and being able to attract fans from

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around the world. If you want to be in the big players

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of English football, you need to be in the Champions League. Only one of

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Manchester City or Manchester united will be next season, and we will

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find out. Manchester City just need a draw at Swansea and they will be

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sure that top four place. Thank you very much. Earlier, I saw

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the flash up on the screen. We will not have time to cover it because of

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the news from Brazil, but go on to the BBC website and you can see a

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big scoop from Dan Rowan, on the anti-dumping body for work that let

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it finding Kenya still not complying with its regulations. -- anted to be

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body. This is significant, and could see Kenyan athletes not going to

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Rio. And another story posted online that

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I wanted to highlight. Leicester City, who we have just been talking

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about, when the title in the Premier League, but they're right back Danny

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Simpson is not going to be going into celebrations. He has been

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ordered to serve a curfew after a conviction for assaulting his

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ex-girlfriend. Simpson had been ordered to do community service, but

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media intrusion has not made that possible, so the judge rejected a

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fine as an idea, saying that would not be a sufficient punishment.

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Not long ago, the Olympic Games was given to Rio. They will take place

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in the city in a few months' time. We will have a live interview in a

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moment with an American expert who says they should be cancelled

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because of the Zika virus. The NHS in England has recorded its

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worst performance figures since records began. Figures for March

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showed a failure to achieve targets in several areas, including

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ambulance response times, emergency call handling, and accident and

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emergency waiting times. Nearly 23 million people visited A in the 12

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months to March 2016. That was a rise of more than 500,000 from the

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previous year. NHS England says the junior doctors' dispute had started

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having an impact, with more patients than ever waiting more than 18 weeks

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for operations such as knee and hip replacements. Our health editor Hugh

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Pearman can give us full details on the story.

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Usually, the pressure on hospitals eases off in the spring, but not

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this time. The performance figures for March for A units will even

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worse than it was during the winter months. The key number published

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today was the proportion of patients seen or assessed within four hours

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at Accident and Emergency, and that was 87.3% across England, the worst

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since records began in 2004. Behind Scotland's bigger, but slightly

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ahead of Wales and Northern Ireland. One of the reasons for that was the

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sheer numbers of patients. The increase in demand, with more than 2

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million patients going to A units in England, a record three single

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month. That was up 7.5% on March 2015. -- a record for a single

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month. As to why that pressure is building up, there are a number of

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theories. GPs being overrun, and patients feeling they must go to A

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and stared. Problems and social care meaning some patients are in

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hospital when they shouldn't be. Chris Hobson of Nhs Providers, who

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represents hospitals and leading providers, had this expedition.

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Our chief executives are saying this is really now getting difficult, the

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publisher gets more ill and old, we're finding more people come along

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to A because they can't get GP appointments, people are finding

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social care pressures are preventing discharges, so our members are

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saying this is getting difficult. The government argues that in the

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circumstances, the NHS coped reasonably well, given this much

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higher patient demand. But Labour says, with other targets missed,

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including cancer waiting times, and referral to treatment by a

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consultant, you add it all up, the NHS does seem to be now in constant

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crisis. This is Outside Source, live from

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the BBC newsroom. Our lead story still comes from Brazil, where

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President Dilma Rousseff has been suspended and impeachment

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proceedings against her will begin. She has called the whole thing a

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coup. Let's go back to Brazil, because the

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interim president is beginning to speak, I think. Let's see the live

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feed. TRANSLATION: To have a ceremony that

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is very serious and discreet. Due to the moment we are experiencing

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today, however, I can see an enthusiasm, all my colleagues,

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parliamentarians, with my colleagues' governors, and I am

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deeply sure with conviction that this enthusiasm comes from our

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relationship, working together for so many years. At a first instance,

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I wasn't planning to say any words right now, but in the conversations

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I have had in the last two days, I realised that it was very important

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to say a few words. With my first words to the Brazilian people, is to

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say trust in me. The word "Trust" means trusting in our values, in the

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values of our people, the vitality of our democracy. You may trust in

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our ability to recover the economy, in the potential of our country, in

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the country's institutions, both social and political, and together,

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we will be able to face these challenges, because it is a

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difficult moment, and I reiterate, as I have been saying, that it is

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urgent to pacify the nation and unify Brazil. It is urgent to form a

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government that will save the nation. Political parties, leaders,

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and organised movements, and the leaders of Brazil, you must

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collaborate in order to save the country from serious crisis.

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Dialogue is the first step to face the challenges in order to take

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steps forward and begin to grow again. Nobody, absolutely nobody,

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alone is able to provide all the necessary reforms, but together, the

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government, parliament and the society together, we will find

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solutions. I am absolutely sure we need to rescue credibility for

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Brazil, internally and externally. It is a necessary factor for

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business leaders, service leaders, from agribusiness and workers from

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all productive sectors to have enthusiasm, and few safe with

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investments. We must encourage significantly PPPs, because these

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two can generate jobs for our country. -- these as well. We are

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aware that the state isn't able to perform all functions by its self.

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-- itself. We knew employers on one hand, and workers on one hand.

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Together, they will create prosperity. To the state, it is

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important to provide safety, health, education. All important sectors and

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services for society. They should not leave the public sphere.

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Everything else must be shared with private initiative we understand as

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joint actions between workers and employers together. Employment, we

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are aware, is fundamental for all Brazilians, but the citizen can only

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have a job if industries, services, are performing well. On the other

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hand, a project that can ensure jobs demands the consolidation of social

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projects. We are all aware that Brazil is unfortunately still an old

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country, therefore, I reiterate and I highlight here that we must

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maintain social programmes -- a poor country. The family then fit

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programme, the University programme, My House, My Life, and all others.

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They are very successful, and therefore, we will expand them and

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moreover, we need to remove a bad habit in Brazil when we have a new

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government. We must remove what has been done. On the contrary, one must

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celebrate achievement, successful achievements, expand them, and

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initiate new and useful programmes for the country.

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This is Brazil's new interim president, Michel Temer, making his

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first address since taking up the leadership of the country. He has

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told Brazilians, trust me, trust in the vitality of our democracy, trust

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in our institutions. He says Brazil needs to rescue its credibility.

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Thank you very much for watching today's Outside Source. There is

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full coverage of what is happening in Brazil on the BBC News app. We

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will speak to you next week. Goodbye.

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Good evening. It is that time of day where we look further

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