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I am Ross Atkins, welcome to outside source, and how of international

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news and we begin in the US because in a few hours' time Hillary Clinton

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and Donald Trump face each other in the first presidential debate. We

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are going to be live in a moment, if you have got questions for them,

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send them in. We will also be live in Colombia with Lyse Doucet ahead

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of the government and the Fat rebel signing a deal. It will end over 50

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years of conflict. The UN says that conditions in Aleppo have reached

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new levels of horror. We will also be in Johannesburg to hear about

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efforts to save this animal, the pangolin. It is the most trafficked

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mammal in the world. And if you have got questions on any of the stories

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we are covering, you can use the hashtag, for all of your comments

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that we will come straight to. So it is Hillary Clinton is, the

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first presidential debate is always a big occasion, certainly Donald

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Trump's approach to politics means that in a sense we are going into

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unknown territory but the format is very familiar, we can see the

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first-ever televised presidential debate, years ago, a confident John

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F. Kennedy, against a nervous and sweaty Richard Nixon, Kennedy won

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the debate and he went on to win the election, the next example, 1984, of

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Reagan against Walter Mondale, Ronald Reagan, had an attack line,

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that Mondale was inexperienced and he went on to hit the election

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again. We got a gaffe in 1976, Gerald Ford, insisted the Soviets

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were not interfering in eastern Europe, of course they were, hugely

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damaging for him and he went on to lose not just the debate but the

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election to Jimmy Carter. Another interesting example is not just the

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content but it is the tone and style, Al Gore against George Bush,

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Al Gore was mocked, for dismissing George Bush and at one stage she

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walked towards Mr Bush during one of his responses and that did not go

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down well at all. So there's an awful lot for the candidates to

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think about, these debates do not always matter but they have a

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potential to make a real difference. This one is in a university in New

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York state, I'm delighted to say that both of our correspondence to

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guide us through the politics with us. We have somebody in UK is

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saying, what are the expectations of the two campaigns? The expectations

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are huge, we are thinking 100 million people will be watching this

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debate so that is a lot of American viewers and people still have to

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make up their minds. I been speaking to senior members of the Clinton

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campaign and they say that they are preparing for a Donald Trump who is

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gracious, respectful and mild mannered, they also pointed out that

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is probably the hardest Donald Trump for Hillary Clinton to take on? That

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is true, Donald Trump knows how to behave,

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he did on the same stage as the Mexican president but the question

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is can he keep it up for 90 minutes, this is going to be an endurance

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test, he's going to have to stay on message even though he doesn't have

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the same policy chops, but can he keep repeating that without seeming

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to be superficial and will he make mistakes in the last few minutes.

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The stakes are huge. Correct me if I'm wrong but that is 90 minutes

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long, the criticism of Donald Trump has always been, even if you agree

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with him, he makes bit persuasive arguments but he's not great

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necessarily on policy detail and he will have two shift that a little

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bit? Yes remember he has done a lot of debating in the primaries but at

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the beginning he was starting off over 17 people, that meant that he

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only actually had to speak for six or seven minutes and I think that is

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a big difference? That two and a half hour debating California, you

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could see Donald Trump getting more tired and frustrated the later it

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got into the debate. He was not used to that kind of pressure for that

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extended period of time, it is only 90 minutes but 90 minutes under the

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spotlight and you have to respond everyone two minutes, that is a lot

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of time for Donald Trump to have to stay on his game. Hillary Clinton

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has done this before, she has been a high profile debates before in the

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Senate and also in 2008 so she has a bit more experience but she has been

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under the weather, she has suffered from pneumonia and is recovering,

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she may have a problem. Yes like my hair which is blowing away. The hot

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air comes to night. That may well be, one other thing, let us talk

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about the general situation, spending a couple of hours reading

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about this, you cannot struggle to find liberal journalist politicians

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and, taters who suddenly are saying, my goodness, this really could

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happen, Clinton could really lose. Is there a sense that the stakes are

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that high? We have had the polls tightening, coming out today in some

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of those key battle ground states, Pennsylvania and Colorado which the

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Clinton campaign and Democrats have been putting in the Democrat column.

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But the Clinton campaign staff that I'm speaking to today, I do know is

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they are trying to sound bullish, they are saying that the internal

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polls, are not nearly as bad as those public polls and they say they

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are still sounding pretty confident. The polls show a tightening race but

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what they really show is that there are a lot of undecided people who

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are leaning towards third-party candidates. Both candidates are in

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the low 40s which leaves about 18% of the electorate who may be being

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towards a third-party candidate or maybe for Hillary Clinton right

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after hurricane veg and have backed away when some of the stories about

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the foundation and the e-mails have come out. A lot of people will watch

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this a lot more with an open mind, who could be swayed one way or

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another tonight. Just very quickly, whether people are watching it in

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the UK or around the world, they can see it live on the BBC, we have

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talked about it generally, run me through the specifics? So it starts

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in exactly four rows of time, 90 minutes, no breaks, -- four hours'

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time. No breaks for the bathroom or powder your nose, it is divided into

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six different sections, three major themes, one is about the economy and

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national security. They are very vague so a lot is going to be on

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Leicester halt the moderator's shoulders for how he is going to

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have his shoulders? There will be a couple of minutes from each

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candidate and then they will beat abating, the back and forth. Thank

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you very much for being with us, and of course you will see them later

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Ron on the BBC. As we dissect what has happened. From the US to

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Colombia. What a date has been for Colombians. In a few hours' time,

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the clumsy and is and the FARC rebel group will sign a peace treaty and

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they will take another huge step towards ending a civil war that has

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lasted for over years. This ceremony today is going to happen, in the

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north of Colombia. I should emphasise that Colombians are going

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to vote on the deal. For many of them, this conflict has lasted their

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entire lives. Here are some statistics illustrate how profoundly

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this has affected Colombia. Well covering misses the BBC chief

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international correspondent is Lyse Doucet. Who's live for us from car

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to Jena. The challenge of reintegrating, the FARC in society

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is huge. Is there anything that is like the South Africans had. Like

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the truth and reconciliation commission? Yes it is interesting,

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they have drawn on that with their own reconciliation process and they

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have looked at other peace processes, poor example the Northern

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Ireland peace deal. The lessons from the negotiating process to try and

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reach a deal, this is a very Colombian deal, unprecedented. In

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fact the first time in all of Latin America, a peace deal that doesn't

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give an amnesty but the kind of justice given is kind of

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controversial. As we listen to the choir behind us practice for the

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ceremony which will take place in a queue hours' time, we are joined by

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the peace commissioner and one of the top negotiators for the

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Colombian government. You have worked very long and hard for this

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day? How does it feel? Li it feels like I have got a big black piano

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off my back because I had been working on this for six years, we

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did a year and a half back channelling, six months of secret

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negotiations and then four years of public in Havana. Obviously

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implementation is the main thing but at least we have got the deal done.

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When you sat across the table from FARC, what did you feel. This is

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Colombia's biggest enemy? Well yes, but you have to for a negotiation to

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work you have to be very Serena and patient, and leave your emotions

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aside and have a lot of control and clarity about where you want to go

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and that is what we try to do. Does it bother you, so many including two

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former president say that they will reject the deal, it is letting FARC

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get away with it? While the prosecutor of the International, the

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court said that she was pleased that crimes will be investigated and they

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are looking at what we are doing. So is the international community and

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the High Commissioner of the human rights and they are right, because

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this is the first time in a negotiation between a government and

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a gorilla, we have said that there are certain crimes that cannot have

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an amnesty that need to be investigated and prosecuted. But it

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is not the only thing that will happen, it is a transition to peace,

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so you need a truth commission, reparations, for the disappeared and

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it is a truly comprehensive approach. What was the toughest

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issue, that at one point you may have thought it will not work? The

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justice issue, because if you really want to clarify what happened, for

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the justice, you have to go to those most responsible. Those most

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responsible are the guys sitting across the table for you so for them

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it is not exactly easy. At the same time those other guys were going to

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lead the political transition so it is truly an exercise of squaring the

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circle, we did the best that we we did the best that can be done and

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the challenges now the implementation. What is the biggest

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challenge to you think? It is a very demanding system, putting on a

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reconciliation commission is very demanding, you need to wrestle with

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the nature of society. These tribunal 's internationally are very

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costly, we need to do it in a national manner so that it doesn't

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suck up all the resorts is. -- in a rational manner. And the victims

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need to feel that it is right, and we have seen that FARC has started

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to apologise. I was in a very important meeting two weeks ago,

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with the families of victims that were kidnapped and then assassinated

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by the FARC, members of the local parliament. And the FARC sat for

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five hours listening to them and at the end said, this is one of the

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worst mistakes that we said in the war. We offer your apologies and we

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hope that you will accept. That is only possible because there is a

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peace agreement that has been concluded, those are the kind of

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thing that peace brings, you can look at it the other way and say

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that a piece agreement allows you to fight impunity because those that

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are responsible, can acknowledge responsibility. I know you are

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celebrating and also dressed in white. A last word, for us it is the

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most important moment of our generation, we understand that

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Europe, is looking at itself, there is Syria and migration in so many

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problems but I think what you have seen in Colombia is an example that

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if you work hard enough at it with a lot of international support

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including from the UK, you can actually get a deal and talking is

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always worthwhile. Thank you very much indeed. Speaking about

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forgiveness, 8 million victims is a lot of people who have suffered over

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the years and they want to believe that the dark chapter is over. That

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is all from us from the beautiful setting of this gold city. Thank you

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to you and your guest, that will be broadcasting throughout the

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afternoon in Colombia has that ceremony approaches.

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We have heard there has been talk about Syria, good news, humanitarian

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aid has reached four besieged areas, that have had nothing for six months

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and we have rebel areas of Aleppo, where the situation is abject.

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In the UK the opposition Labour Party conference has been

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overshadowed about part of the speech on the Trident nuclear

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defence system, Clive Lewis's office has played down reports that the

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speech was changed in the last minute. Along with defence, the

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economy was on the conference agenda. Here is the Shadow

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Chancellor. If we win the next election we will

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write into law a real living wage. We will clamp down on the abuses of

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power at the very top, under Labour there will be no more Philip Green

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sat tall. Imagine society radically transformed, radically fairer, more

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equal, yes based on a prosperous economy, but where that prosperity

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shared by all. In this party you no longer have to whisper its name, it

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is cool socialism, solidarity. Hello I am Ross Atkins with outside

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source. Our lead story comes from the east coast of the US, Hillary

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Clinton and Ronald Trump making their final preparations ahead of

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their first US presidential debate. There will be a huge audience not

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just in the US but around the world. Let us have a look at some of the

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main stories. First of all a Dutch tourist has been arrested in

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Mandalay in me and Mark, after unplugging a

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speaker, which was broadcasting a month's sermon. He has been

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convicted. China has large force of military aircraft two Japanese

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islands. It is worth emphasising that these Chinese planes did not

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violate Japanese airspace. And, Matt LeBlanc has signed a two-year deal,

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to present, top gear. Chris Evans has since stepped down. These are

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very, very tough times for Deutsche Bank, is share price which has been

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having a tough time anyway is in a new low, down more than 50%. There

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is a clear downward trend and there is no apparent safety net. A German

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magazine called focus across the weekend reported that Angela Merkel

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is ruling out bailing out the bank. She's also ruling out intervening on

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its behalf in the US, US regulators want a $14 billion fine paid, in

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relation to mis-selling of mortgage securities. Let us try and

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understand what is going on. If we go right to the heart of the

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problem, what is the core issue for Deutsche Bank? It has been troubled

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for a while, before that $14 billion fine, a lot of it stems with the

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impact of the financial crisis that exposed the weaknesses of firms, it

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was try to restructure its businesses, focusing away from

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investment banking to retail banking. Part of the problem is

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turning things around, it is a big global banking institution, it takes

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time and money. And it is a struggle. There is this report a

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short while ago, suggesting that Dutch bank might have to go and ask

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the German government for help, now you have got this report saying that

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the German government is not prepared to offer any assistance,

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will this shining a spotlight if you like on Deutsche Bank's ongoing

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weakness. I'm just spotting this, pulling up retweet, from a

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correspondent. Why is it so dangerous for all of us? It is a

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reference to the International Monetary Fund that refer to do such

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a dangerous bank. I should point out that it also listed HSBC and credit

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suis, after Deutsche Bank has opposing the next biggest threat,

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the three of these banks, are much more in debt, and they are riskier

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than any US bank. That is really why the IMF gave them that label. The

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problem is that if they run into trouble, then you could see a

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concern that basically we could see another European banking crisis

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exploded because they are so interlinked. If Butch bank could not

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recover, it could lead to fears of contagion, what would happen to

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other banks and that is why the IMF is stepping in giving this warning,

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it is worth pointing out that the US arm of Deutsche Bank, the Federal

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reserve, has oversight of the banks and it did not pass it stress test.

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So there are concerns to do with how much debt the company has burst is

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how many of its assets and that is what it is trying to address right

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now thank you very much Michelle Fleury.

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The chief economist of the International Monetary Fund

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has told BBC's Kamal Ahmad that the greatest threat

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to the global economy is a Chinese slowdown.

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Have a look at this. China is the greatest risk, it has been the

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engine of global growth, the UN, -- US has been picking up. China

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escaped through a big political revolution, I think the economy has

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slowed down much more than the official figures show, and few want

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to look at a part of the world that has a debt problem, look at China.

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They had been in credit fuelled growth and these things don't go on

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forever. Everyone says that China is different, the state owns

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everything, but they control it. But only to a point. I definitely worry

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for China and a hard landing. We are having a pretty sharp landing

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already and I worry about China becoming more of a problem. We have

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taken it for granted that whatever you do is doing and Japan at least

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China is as doing OK. Bannister me the one that I worry most about.

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Next ultimately India space agency. It launched eight satellites but

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five of them were foreign and it turns out this is a really lucrative

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business. They have launched a total of 79 satellites, and that has

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earned them $120 million. The reason it is relevant is because they

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wonder whether it is appropriate for the government to be spending huge

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amounts of space when millions of people living in poverty.

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Can this rocket become a money making machine for India, it was the

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35th successful launch. It had on board 20 satellites, the most in a

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single go for the Indian space agency, 17 of them were foreign,. We

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have a national requirement so we built satellites. And, at the launch

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vehicle, it has some excess capacity so what we have been looking for is

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how do we make it more cost-effective. So we were trying to

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accommodate some of the satellites, along with passengers. This is the

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model of the kind of launchers that had been used to send satellites

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into space. India is now on average doing one launch per month. It is an

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expensive business because each time the decor has to be built from

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scratch and this country is criticised for spending money on a

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space programme and it has high levels of poverty but the space

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agency here argues that there are strong returns for things like

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better mapping and weather forecasting but also now making

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money from other countries. India has so far launch 79 former

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satellite and earned $120 million for it. Vehicles like this one are

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being put together at a frantic speed now as India plans to have 12

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launches every year. A pace that has more than doubled since 2015. This

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lady runs a company that brokers a deal between the Indian space agency

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and foreign companies that want foreign satellites launched. The

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need for launchers is growing exponentially primarily because we

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are now seeing new companies, which are planning to launch commercial

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constellations satellites. So not one of five but an entire

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constellation from 24 220 satellites per constellation. The scientists

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have competition not only from other space countries but also now from

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private companies. So far India has only been looking at small and light

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satellites but launching heavier ones is where the big money is.

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Still a few other questions coming in on the US presidential debates

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and the first one is in a queue as time, one of you saying, how many

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minutes with each candidates get, well they divided up as fair as you

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can so pretty close to 45 minutes per candidate.

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Though we will be taking a look at UK weather prospects,

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