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I am Ross Atkins, welcome to outside source, and how of international | :00:12. | :00:17. | |
news and we begin in the US because in a few hours' time Hillary Clinton | :00:18. | :00:22. | |
and Donald Trump face each other in the first presidential debate. We | :00:23. | :00:26. | |
are going to be live in a moment, if you have got questions for them, | :00:27. | :00:31. | |
send them in. We will also be live in Colombia with Lyse Doucet ahead | :00:32. | :00:35. | |
of the government and the Fat rebel signing a deal. It will end over 50 | :00:36. | :00:45. | |
years of conflict. The UN says that conditions in Aleppo have reached | :00:46. | :00:49. | |
new levels of horror. We will also be in Johannesburg to hear about | :00:50. | :00:54. | |
efforts to save this animal, the pangolin. It is the most trafficked | :00:55. | :00:59. | |
mammal in the world. And if you have got questions on any of the stories | :01:00. | :01:04. | |
we are covering, you can use the hashtag, for all of your comments | :01:05. | :01:06. | |
that we will come straight to. So it is Hillary Clinton is, the | :01:07. | :01:28. | |
first presidential debate is always a big occasion, certainly Donald | :01:29. | :01:34. | |
Trump's approach to politics means that in a sense we are going into | :01:35. | :01:38. | |
unknown territory but the format is very familiar, we can see the | :01:39. | :01:42. | |
first-ever televised presidential debate, years ago, a confident John | :01:43. | :01:49. | |
F. Kennedy, against a nervous and sweaty Richard Nixon, Kennedy won | :01:50. | :01:55. | |
the debate and he went on to win the election, the next example, 1984, of | :01:56. | :01:59. | |
Reagan against Walter Mondale, Ronald Reagan, had an attack line, | :02:00. | :02:06. | |
that Mondale was inexperienced and he went on to hit the election | :02:07. | :02:11. | |
again. We got a gaffe in 1976, Gerald Ford, insisted the Soviets | :02:12. | :02:16. | |
were not interfering in eastern Europe, of course they were, hugely | :02:17. | :02:20. | |
damaging for him and he went on to lose not just the debate but the | :02:21. | :02:26. | |
election to Jimmy Carter. Another interesting example is not just the | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
content but it is the tone and style, Al Gore against George Bush, | :02:32. | :02:37. | |
Al Gore was mocked, for dismissing George Bush and at one stage she | :02:38. | :02:41. | |
walked towards Mr Bush during one of his responses and that did not go | :02:42. | :02:47. | |
down well at all. So there's an awful lot for the candidates to | :02:48. | :02:51. | |
think about, these debates do not always matter but they have a | :02:52. | :02:55. | |
potential to make a real difference. This one is in a university in New | :02:56. | :03:02. | |
York state, I'm delighted to say that both of our correspondence to | :03:03. | :03:07. | |
guide us through the politics with us. We have somebody in UK is | :03:08. | :03:14. | |
saying, what are the expectations of the two campaigns? The expectations | :03:15. | :03:20. | |
are huge, we are thinking 100 million people will be watching this | :03:21. | :03:24. | |
debate so that is a lot of American viewers and people still have to | :03:25. | :03:28. | |
make up their minds. I been speaking to senior members of the Clinton | :03:29. | :03:32. | |
campaign and they say that they are preparing for a Donald Trump who is | :03:33. | :03:37. | |
gracious, respectful and mild mannered, they also pointed out that | :03:38. | :03:40. | |
is probably the hardest Donald Trump for Hillary Clinton to take on? That | :03:41. | :03:46. | |
is true, Donald Trump knows how to behave, | :03:47. | :04:07. | |
he did on the same stage as the Mexican president but the question | :04:08. | :04:12. | |
is can he keep it up for 90 minutes, this is going to be an endurance | :04:13. | :04:15. | |
test, he's going to have to stay on message even though he doesn't have | :04:16. | :04:17. | |
the same policy chops, but can he keep repeating that without seeming | :04:18. | :04:20. | |
to be superficial and will he make mistakes in the last few minutes. | :04:21. | :04:22. | |
The stakes are huge. Correct me if I'm wrong but that is 90 minutes | :04:23. | :04:25. | |
long, the criticism of Donald Trump has always been, even if you agree | :04:26. | :04:27. | |
with him, he makes bit persuasive arguments but he's not great | :04:28. | :04:29. | |
necessarily on policy detail and he will have two shift that a little | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
bit? Yes remember he has done a lot of debating in the primaries but at | :04:34. | :04:35. | |
the beginning he was starting off over 17 people, that meant that he | :04:36. | :04:38. | |
only actually had to speak for six or seven minutes and I think that is | :04:39. | :04:44. | |
a big difference? That two and a half hour debating California, you | :04:45. | :04:48. | |
could see Donald Trump getting more tired and frustrated the later it | :04:49. | :04:52. | |
got into the debate. He was not used to that kind of pressure for that | :04:53. | :04:56. | |
extended period of time, it is only 90 minutes but 90 minutes under the | :04:57. | :05:00. | |
spotlight and you have to respond everyone two minutes, that is a lot | :05:01. | :05:04. | |
of time for Donald Trump to have to stay on his game. Hillary Clinton | :05:05. | :05:08. | |
has done this before, she has been a high profile debates before in the | :05:09. | :05:21. | |
Senate and also in 2008 so she has a bit more experience but she has been | :05:22. | :05:23. | |
under the weather, she has suffered from pneumonia and is recovering, | :05:24. | :05:26. | |
she may have a problem. Yes like my hair which is blowing away. The hot | :05:27. | :05:33. | |
air comes to night. That may well be, one other thing, let us talk | :05:34. | :05:37. | |
about the general situation, spending a couple of hours reading | :05:38. | :05:42. | |
about this, you cannot struggle to find liberal journalist politicians | :05:43. | :05:46. | |
and, taters who suddenly are saying, my goodness, this really could | :05:47. | :05:50. | |
happen, Clinton could really lose. Is there a sense that the stakes are | :05:51. | :05:56. | |
that high? We have had the polls tightening, coming out today in some | :05:57. | :06:01. | |
of those key battle ground states, Pennsylvania and Colorado which the | :06:02. | :06:04. | |
Clinton campaign and Democrats have been putting in the Democrat column. | :06:05. | :06:09. | |
But the Clinton campaign staff that I'm speaking to today, I do know is | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
they are trying to sound bullish, they are saying that the internal | :06:15. | :06:18. | |
polls, are not nearly as bad as those public polls and they say they | :06:19. | :06:23. | |
are still sounding pretty confident. The polls show a tightening race but | :06:24. | :06:26. | |
what they really show is that there are a lot of undecided people who | :06:27. | :06:31. | |
are leaning towards third-party candidates. Both candidates are in | :06:32. | :06:36. | |
the low 40s which leaves about 18% of the electorate who may be being | :06:37. | :06:41. | |
towards a third-party candidate or maybe for Hillary Clinton right | :06:42. | :06:44. | |
after hurricane veg and have backed away when some of the stories about | :06:45. | :06:47. | |
the foundation and the e-mails have come out. A lot of people will watch | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
this a lot more with an open mind, who could be swayed one way or | :06:53. | :06:57. | |
another tonight. Just very quickly, whether people are watching it in | :06:58. | :07:00. | |
the UK or around the world, they can see it live on the BBC, we have | :07:01. | :07:05. | |
talked about it generally, run me through the specifics? So it starts | :07:06. | :07:13. | |
in exactly four rows of time, 90 minutes, no breaks, -- four hours' | :07:14. | :07:19. | |
time. No breaks for the bathroom or powder your nose, it is divided into | :07:20. | :07:25. | |
six different sections, three major themes, one is about the economy and | :07:26. | :07:30. | |
national security. They are very vague so a lot is going to be on | :07:31. | :07:34. | |
Leicester halt the moderator's shoulders for how he is going to | :07:35. | :07:41. | |
have his shoulders? There will be a couple of minutes from each | :07:42. | :07:45. | |
candidate and then they will beat abating, the back and forth. Thank | :07:46. | :07:52. | |
you very much for being with us, and of course you will see them later | :07:53. | :07:57. | |
Ron on the BBC. As we dissect what has happened. From the US to | :07:58. | :08:04. | |
Colombia. What a date has been for Colombians. In a few hours' time, | :08:05. | :08:09. | |
the clumsy and is and the FARC rebel group will sign a peace treaty and | :08:10. | :08:12. | |
they will take another huge step towards ending a civil war that has | :08:13. | :08:17. | |
lasted for over years. This ceremony today is going to happen, in the | :08:18. | :08:25. | |
north of Colombia. I should emphasise that Colombians are going | :08:26. | :08:31. | |
to vote on the deal. For many of them, this conflict has lasted their | :08:32. | :08:35. | |
entire lives. Here are some statistics illustrate how profoundly | :08:36. | :08:36. | |
this has affected Colombia. Well covering misses the BBC chief | :08:37. | :09:47. | |
international correspondent is Lyse Doucet. Who's live for us from car | :09:48. | :09:53. | |
to Jena. The challenge of reintegrating, the FARC in society | :09:54. | :09:59. | |
is huge. Is there anything that is like the South Africans had. Like | :10:00. | :10:07. | |
the truth and reconciliation commission? Yes it is interesting, | :10:08. | :10:11. | |
they have drawn on that with their own reconciliation process and they | :10:12. | :10:14. | |
have looked at other peace processes, poor example the Northern | :10:15. | :10:18. | |
Ireland peace deal. The lessons from the negotiating process to try and | :10:19. | :10:23. | |
reach a deal, this is a very Colombian deal, unprecedented. In | :10:24. | :10:27. | |
fact the first time in all of Latin America, a peace deal that doesn't | :10:28. | :10:32. | |
give an amnesty but the kind of justice given is kind of | :10:33. | :10:35. | |
controversial. As we listen to the choir behind us practice for the | :10:36. | :10:39. | |
ceremony which will take place in a queue hours' time, we are joined by | :10:40. | :10:42. | |
the peace commissioner and one of the top negotiators for the | :10:43. | :10:47. | |
Colombian government. You have worked very long and hard for this | :10:48. | :10:55. | |
day? How does it feel? Li it feels like I have got a big black piano | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
off my back because I had been working on this for six years, we | :11:00. | :11:04. | |
did a year and a half back channelling, six months of secret | :11:05. | :11:09. | |
negotiations and then four years of public in Havana. Obviously | :11:10. | :11:14. | |
implementation is the main thing but at least we have got the deal done. | :11:15. | :11:20. | |
When you sat across the table from FARC, what did you feel. This is | :11:21. | :11:28. | |
Colombia's biggest enemy? Well yes, but you have to for a negotiation to | :11:29. | :11:35. | |
work you have to be very Serena and patient, and leave your emotions | :11:36. | :11:39. | |
aside and have a lot of control and clarity about where you want to go | :11:40. | :11:43. | |
and that is what we try to do. Does it bother you, so many including two | :11:44. | :11:48. | |
former president say that they will reject the deal, it is letting FARC | :11:49. | :11:54. | |
get away with it? While the prosecutor of the International, the | :11:55. | :11:58. | |
court said that she was pleased that crimes will be investigated and they | :11:59. | :12:02. | |
are looking at what we are doing. So is the international community and | :12:03. | :12:05. | |
the High Commissioner of the human rights and they are right, because | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
this is the first time in a negotiation between a government and | :12:11. | :12:15. | |
a gorilla, we have said that there are certain crimes that cannot have | :12:16. | :12:20. | |
an amnesty that need to be investigated and prosecuted. But it | :12:21. | :12:23. | |
is not the only thing that will happen, it is a transition to peace, | :12:24. | :12:30. | |
so you need a truth commission, reparations, for the disappeared and | :12:31. | :12:33. | |
it is a truly comprehensive approach. What was the toughest | :12:34. | :12:37. | |
issue, that at one point you may have thought it will not work? The | :12:38. | :12:47. | |
justice issue, because if you really want to clarify what happened, for | :12:48. | :12:52. | |
the justice, you have to go to those most responsible. Those most | :12:53. | :12:55. | |
responsible are the guys sitting across the table for you so for them | :12:56. | :12:59. | |
it is not exactly easy. At the same time those other guys were going to | :13:00. | :13:03. | |
lead the political transition so it is truly an exercise of squaring the | :13:04. | :13:08. | |
circle, we did the best that we we did the best that can be done and | :13:09. | :13:12. | |
the challenges now the implementation. What is the biggest | :13:13. | :13:19. | |
challenge to you think? It is a very demanding system, putting on a | :13:20. | :13:23. | |
reconciliation commission is very demanding, you need to wrestle with | :13:24. | :13:28. | |
the nature of society. These tribunal 's internationally are very | :13:29. | :13:32. | |
costly, we need to do it in a national manner so that it doesn't | :13:33. | :13:38. | |
suck up all the resorts is. -- in a rational manner. And the victims | :13:39. | :13:43. | |
need to feel that it is right, and we have seen that FARC has started | :13:44. | :13:47. | |
to apologise. I was in a very important meeting two weeks ago, | :13:48. | :13:51. | |
with the families of victims that were kidnapped and then assassinated | :13:52. | :13:56. | |
by the FARC, members of the local parliament. And the FARC sat for | :13:57. | :14:00. | |
five hours listening to them and at the end said, this is one of the | :14:01. | :14:05. | |
worst mistakes that we said in the war. We offer your apologies and we | :14:06. | :14:11. | |
hope that you will accept. That is only possible because there is a | :14:12. | :14:14. | |
peace agreement that has been concluded, those are the kind of | :14:15. | :14:17. | |
thing that peace brings, you can look at it the other way and say | :14:18. | :14:23. | |
that a piece agreement allows you to fight impunity because those that | :14:24. | :14:27. | |
are responsible, can acknowledge responsibility. I know you are | :14:28. | :14:33. | |
celebrating and also dressed in white. A last word, for us it is the | :14:34. | :14:40. | |
most important moment of our generation, we understand that | :14:41. | :14:45. | |
Europe, is looking at itself, there is Syria and migration in so many | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
problems but I think what you have seen in Colombia is an example that | :14:50. | :14:53. | |
if you work hard enough at it with a lot of international support | :14:54. | :14:57. | |
including from the UK, you can actually get a deal and talking is | :14:58. | :15:01. | |
always worthwhile. Thank you very much indeed. Speaking about | :15:02. | :15:08. | |
forgiveness, 8 million victims is a lot of people who have suffered over | :15:09. | :15:12. | |
the years and they want to believe that the dark chapter is over. That | :15:13. | :15:16. | |
is all from us from the beautiful setting of this gold city. Thank you | :15:17. | :15:24. | |
to you and your guest, that will be broadcasting throughout the | :15:25. | :15:26. | |
afternoon in Colombia has that ceremony approaches. | :15:27. | :15:33. | |
We have heard there has been talk about Syria, good news, humanitarian | :15:34. | :15:43. | |
aid has reached four besieged areas, that have had nothing for six months | :15:44. | :15:48. | |
and we have rebel areas of Aleppo, where the situation is abject. | :15:49. | :15:58. | |
In the UK the opposition Labour Party conference has been | :15:59. | :16:03. | |
overshadowed about part of the speech on the Trident nuclear | :16:04. | :16:09. | |
defence system, Clive Lewis's office has played down reports that the | :16:10. | :16:12. | |
speech was changed in the last minute. Along with defence, the | :16:13. | :16:16. | |
economy was on the conference agenda. Here is the Shadow | :16:17. | :16:17. | |
Chancellor. If we win the next election we will | :16:18. | :16:29. | |
write into law a real living wage. We will clamp down on the abuses of | :16:30. | :16:35. | |
power at the very top, under Labour there will be no more Philip Green | :16:36. | :16:41. | |
sat tall. Imagine society radically transformed, radically fairer, more | :16:42. | :16:48. | |
equal, yes based on a prosperous economy, but where that prosperity | :16:49. | :16:54. | |
shared by all. In this party you no longer have to whisper its name, it | :16:55. | :17:05. | |
is cool socialism, solidarity. Hello I am Ross Atkins with outside | :17:06. | :17:09. | |
source. Our lead story comes from the east coast of the US, Hillary | :17:10. | :17:13. | |
Clinton and Ronald Trump making their final preparations ahead of | :17:14. | :17:17. | |
their first US presidential debate. There will be a huge audience not | :17:18. | :17:21. | |
just in the US but around the world. Let us have a look at some of the | :17:22. | :17:27. | |
main stories. First of all a Dutch tourist has been arrested in | :17:28. | :17:28. | |
Mandalay in me and Mark, after unplugging a | :17:29. | :17:41. | |
speaker, which was broadcasting a month's sermon. He has been | :17:42. | :17:48. | |
convicted. China has large force of military aircraft two Japanese | :17:49. | :17:57. | |
islands. It is worth emphasising that these Chinese planes did not | :17:58. | :18:04. | |
violate Japanese airspace. And, Matt LeBlanc has signed a two-year deal, | :18:05. | :18:11. | |
to present, top gear. Chris Evans has since stepped down. These are | :18:12. | :18:17. | |
very, very tough times for Deutsche Bank, is share price which has been | :18:18. | :18:22. | |
having a tough time anyway is in a new low, down more than 50%. There | :18:23. | :18:28. | |
is a clear downward trend and there is no apparent safety net. A German | :18:29. | :18:33. | |
magazine called focus across the weekend reported that Angela Merkel | :18:34. | :18:37. | |
is ruling out bailing out the bank. She's also ruling out intervening on | :18:38. | :18:43. | |
its behalf in the US, US regulators want a $14 billion fine paid, in | :18:44. | :18:47. | |
relation to mis-selling of mortgage securities. Let us try and | :18:48. | :18:53. | |
understand what is going on. If we go right to the heart of the | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
problem, what is the core issue for Deutsche Bank? It has been troubled | :18:58. | :19:06. | |
for a while, before that $14 billion fine, a lot of it stems with the | :19:07. | :19:11. | |
impact of the financial crisis that exposed the weaknesses of firms, it | :19:12. | :19:16. | |
was try to restructure its businesses, focusing away from | :19:17. | :19:18. | |
investment banking to retail banking. Part of the problem is | :19:19. | :19:24. | |
turning things around, it is a big global banking institution, it takes | :19:25. | :19:28. | |
time and money. And it is a struggle. There is this report a | :19:29. | :19:32. | |
short while ago, suggesting that Dutch bank might have to go and ask | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
the German government for help, now you have got this report saying that | :19:38. | :19:41. | |
the German government is not prepared to offer any assistance, | :19:42. | :19:45. | |
will this shining a spotlight if you like on Deutsche Bank's ongoing | :19:46. | :19:50. | |
weakness. I'm just spotting this, pulling up retweet, from a | :19:51. | :19:57. | |
correspondent. Why is it so dangerous for all of us? It is a | :19:58. | :20:03. | |
reference to the International Monetary Fund that refer to do such | :20:04. | :20:08. | |
a dangerous bank. I should point out that it also listed HSBC and credit | :20:09. | :20:13. | |
suis, after Deutsche Bank has opposing the next biggest threat, | :20:14. | :20:17. | |
the three of these banks, are much more in debt, and they are riskier | :20:18. | :20:23. | |
than any US bank. That is really why the IMF gave them that label. The | :20:24. | :20:29. | |
problem is that if they run into trouble, then you could see a | :20:30. | :20:33. | |
concern that basically we could see another European banking crisis | :20:34. | :20:38. | |
exploded because they are so interlinked. If Butch bank could not | :20:39. | :20:46. | |
recover, it could lead to fears of contagion, what would happen to | :20:47. | :20:49. | |
other banks and that is why the IMF is stepping in giving this warning, | :20:50. | :20:53. | |
it is worth pointing out that the US arm of Deutsche Bank, the Federal | :20:54. | :20:58. | |
reserve, has oversight of the banks and it did not pass it stress test. | :20:59. | :21:03. | |
So there are concerns to do with how much debt the company has burst is | :21:04. | :21:09. | |
how many of its assets and that is what it is trying to address right | :21:10. | :21:18. | |
now thank you very much Michelle Fleury. | :21:19. | :21:21. | |
The chief economist of the International Monetary Fund | :21:22. | :21:24. | |
has told BBC's Kamal Ahmad that the greatest threat | :21:25. | :21:26. | |
to the global economy is a Chinese slowdown. | :21:27. | :21:32. | |
Have a look at this. China is the greatest risk, it has been the | :21:33. | :21:40. | |
engine of global growth, the UN, -- US has been picking up. China | :21:41. | :21:45. | |
escaped through a big political revolution, I think the economy has | :21:46. | :21:48. | |
slowed down much more than the official figures show, and few want | :21:49. | :21:53. | |
to look at a part of the world that has a debt problem, look at China. | :21:54. | :21:56. | |
They had been in credit fuelled growth and these things don't go on | :21:57. | :22:01. | |
forever. Everyone says that China is different, the state owns | :22:02. | :22:06. | |
everything, but they control it. But only to a point. I definitely worry | :22:07. | :22:12. | |
for China and a hard landing. We are having a pretty sharp landing | :22:13. | :22:15. | |
already and I worry about China becoming more of a problem. We have | :22:16. | :22:19. | |
taken it for granted that whatever you do is doing and Japan at least | :22:20. | :22:36. | |
China is as doing OK. Bannister me the one that I worry most about. | :22:37. | :22:43. | |
Next ultimately India space agency. It launched eight satellites but | :22:44. | :22:45. | |
five of them were foreign and it turns out this is a really lucrative | :22:46. | :22:50. | |
business. They have launched a total of 79 satellites, and that has | :22:51. | :22:59. | |
earned them $120 million. The reason it is relevant is because they | :23:00. | :23:02. | |
wonder whether it is appropriate for the government to be spending huge | :23:03. | :23:04. | |
amounts of space when millions of people living in poverty. | :23:05. | :23:17. | |
Can this rocket become a money making machine for India, it was the | :23:18. | :23:25. | |
35th successful launch. It had on board 20 satellites, the most in a | :23:26. | :23:30. | |
single go for the Indian space agency, 17 of them were foreign,. We | :23:31. | :23:38. | |
have a national requirement so we built satellites. And, at the launch | :23:39. | :23:46. | |
vehicle, it has some excess capacity so what we have been looking for is | :23:47. | :23:50. | |
how do we make it more cost-effective. So we were trying to | :23:51. | :23:56. | |
accommodate some of the satellites, along with passengers. This is the | :23:57. | :24:01. | |
model of the kind of launchers that had been used to send satellites | :24:02. | :24:06. | |
into space. India is now on average doing one launch per month. It is an | :24:07. | :24:10. | |
expensive business because each time the decor has to be built from | :24:11. | :24:13. | |
scratch and this country is criticised for spending money on a | :24:14. | :24:17. | |
space programme and it has high levels of poverty but the space | :24:18. | :24:20. | |
agency here argues that there are strong returns for things like | :24:21. | :24:24. | |
better mapping and weather forecasting but also now making | :24:25. | :24:31. | |
money from other countries. India has so far launch 79 former | :24:32. | :24:34. | |
satellite and earned $120 million for it. Vehicles like this one are | :24:35. | :24:39. | |
being put together at a frantic speed now as India plans to have 12 | :24:40. | :24:44. | |
launches every year. A pace that has more than doubled since 2015. This | :24:45. | :24:51. | |
lady runs a company that brokers a deal between the Indian space agency | :24:52. | :24:55. | |
and foreign companies that want foreign satellites launched. The | :24:56. | :25:01. | |
need for launchers is growing exponentially primarily because we | :25:02. | :25:05. | |
are now seeing new companies, which are planning to launch commercial | :25:06. | :25:11. | |
constellations satellites. So not one of five but an entire | :25:12. | :25:17. | |
constellation from 24 220 satellites per constellation. The scientists | :25:18. | :25:22. | |
have competition not only from other space countries but also now from | :25:23. | :25:27. | |
private companies. So far India has only been looking at small and light | :25:28. | :25:31. | |
satellites but launching heavier ones is where the big money is. | :25:32. | :25:38. | |
Still a few other questions coming in on the US presidential debates | :25:39. | :25:44. | |
and the first one is in a queue as time, one of you saying, how many | :25:45. | :25:47. | |
minutes with each candidates get, well they divided up as fair as you | :25:48. | :25:52. | |
can so pretty close to 45 minutes per candidate. | :25:53. | :26:11. | |
Though we will be taking a look at UK weather prospects, | :26:12. | :26:12. |