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Hello, I'm Philippa Thomas, this is Outside Source.

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We start in New Jersey, where a packed commuter train has

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At least one person has died and more than 100 more are injured.

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Some passengers in the wreckage had to escape through the windows.

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People who were able to walk away described the high speed

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of the train in the moments before it crashed.

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When we felt the train slamming or sliding into the station,

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we just wanted to make sure that everyone we could help was standing

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on their feet or that we could get them out of harm's way.

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Post-Brexit can Britain have its cake and eat it too?

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Today, the International Trade Secretary says yes,

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but the Italian Prime Minister tells the BBC it's impossible.

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It will be impossible to give to British people more rights

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Tensions are building on the India-Pakistan border.

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India says it's conducted surgical strikes against suspected militants

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And of course if you want to get in touch with us at any time,

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It was a key train connection into New York City.

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And a train derailed, sped through the

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One woman was killed when she was hit by

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Witnesses say the train came hurtling into the station

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in Hoboken, New Jersey, went up over the blocks at the end

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of the track and hit a concrete-and-steel bumper.

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Hoboken is here, just across the Hudson River

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from Manhattan and is a terminus for many trains taking

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Well, we have heard from the governors of New York and New Jersey

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that the engineer of the train is in critical condition in hospital, but

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we are told he is co-operating with authorities. He is really going to

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be a key part of this puzzle into exactly what happened when the train

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sped through, pummelling into the station here in Hoboken without

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decelerating its speed at all, so we're waiting to see when they do

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their investigation, they are going to be on-site doing an

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investigation, and we will be very interested to see in the next few

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days or weeks, however long it takes for that investigation to conclude,

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just what role the driver had in this if any, and also the state of

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the train and its mechanics. Do stay with us.

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Let's hear from one of the passengers who was on the train.

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When we came into Hoboken, it slowed down as we were coming

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It was like a big crash and then everything from the ceiling

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I don't think anybody in the car that I was in...

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I think people got some head injuries from some stuff

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falling from the ceiling, but I think the train hit people

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in the Hoboken terminal that were standing waiting

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Neda, what have you heard from other passengers?

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The BBC has spoken to several people. One man was actually in the

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first car, the car that was in the lead, basically, hitting into the

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train station. He said people were screaming, there was a pool of blood

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on the floor of the car, bloody injuries and also people bruised and

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injured. He was able to just leave the train. Luckily he didn't have

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any severe injuries. But we have heard people saying there was a lot

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of chaos, screaming and confusion as to what had happened exactly. As we

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have heard from the governors of New York and New Jersey, the person who

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died was not on the train but was on the concourse, the platform, and was

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hit from debris that had fallen. So it's been a very chaotic morning

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here. Even the responders going in to help those who were injured were

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wary of the structural damage in the train station with it being unsafe.

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We have heard from several eyewitnesses on the train, all of

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them trying to describe the chaotic scenes.

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Here's the account of one person who tried to help at the station.

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The phrase I would use is like, "Oh, my God", so I'm

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a minister so that's all I can think of,

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just "Oh, my God", because what happened is that, when it happened,

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it was so shocking that people just ran and stared at first.

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You just don't believe that happened.

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And then you've got to wake up and realise, oh,

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Because when I ran up, I looked and it was like,

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I saw a guy bleeding from the head, then I saw another, then I saw

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I didn't even see many bodies until I ran over there and then

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I saw people getting up and getting helped up, bleeding

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And questions are being asked about train control measures.

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Was there technology that could have stopped this happening?

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Absolutely. And this was the key question posed to authorities here,

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who have said they don't want to speculate yet on the cause and are

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waiting till the investigation has concluded, but even still, the key

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question is, why wasn't a fail-safe mechanism in place in the train, so

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that despite it going at such a high speed, this would have stopped it

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automatically? This is something federal authorities have wanted to

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have in place for many years. We know this mechanism has been delayed

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again and again to be installed on these trains, so obviously that was

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one of the first things people pointed to. So despite some of the

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causes that have led to this, would that mechanism not have saved

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passengers from going through this ordeal? And I think when the

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investigation comes out, that will be one of the key possible findings

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as well. Thank you very much. We're just going to show you she is not

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the only person talking about the technology. Quite a lot of tweets on

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social media about this very theme. So clearly that will be part of the

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conversation after this very dramatic train crash.

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The Indian Army says it launched strikes against suspected militants

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along the de facto border with Pakistan in Kashmir.

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Both India and Pakistan claim Kashmir in its entirety but each

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You may know this is a dispute that's been running for decades

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and has seen an increase in tension in recent weeks.

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Indian authorities say their aim was to prevent attacks being planned

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Significant casualties have been caused to the terrorists and those

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trying to support them. The operations aimed at neutralising the

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terrorists have since ceased. We do not have any plans for further

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continuation of the operations. Pakistan has given a very

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different account of events. Former BBC India correspondent

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Andrew Whitehead spoke to me The situation is exceptionally

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tense, it's probably as bad as it's been for ten or 15 years,

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and I think there's a real danger A difficult question,

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I know, but why so tense now? Because this is a division,

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a conflict that's gone on, at least a war of

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words, for decades. Well, there's been a lot

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of turbulence within Clashes between Indian security

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forces and protesters, unarmed protesters,

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largely throwing stones. Then about ten days ago,

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there was a major attack 18 Indian soldiers were killed

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and India believes that Pakistan And it's in response to that that

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India has claimed it has taken out this surgical response

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across the line. For our viewers across the world,

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they may be thinking, you've got two nuclear-armed states

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here, getting very angry. I think there is every sign that

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both India and Pakistan are fairly Both are keenly aware that both

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countries have nuclear arsenals. But when you do have clashes

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and clearly soldiers dying, perhaps on both sides of the line,

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then there is always the danger When is the last time

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there were any serious talks Well, it depends what you mean

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by serious negotiations in Kashmir. Some would say it's been decades

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since there were At the moment, there's no real

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sign of talks either between India and Pakistan,

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there have been some contacts, but not real talks, nor indeed any

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sign of talks between the Indian government and the separatists

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within Kashmir, who want the Kashmir Valley in particular

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to become independent It's difficult to say how much

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support they have but there's certainly a strong strand of opinion

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in Indian Kashmir that wants Kashmir Can the UK have its cake and eat it,

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by keeping open trade with the European Union,

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even as it leaves the EU and shuts Well, today Liam Fox,

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the new International He declared that trade

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with the EU can be "at least as free" as it is now,

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even without the free movement But Italian Prime Minister Matteo

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Renzi told the BBC that Britain just can't have full access to the single

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European market on those terms. Personally, I will be very ready to

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work with Theresa May and other colleagues to support this very

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difficult process, because it is the first time, so it's not easy. There

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is the need to sort as soon as possible the problem of the UK

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because we have talked for the last two years about Brexit, since the

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first month of 2015 up to today. We have discussed a lot of times about

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Brexit so now it is time to solve the question. That was the view from

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Italy. The British International Trade

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Secretary says he's being realistic because it's in the interests

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of both the UK and the EU for the terms of their trading

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relationship to remain as open We are leaving the EU. We are not

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leaving Europe. And we're ready to take our place in an open, liberal

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and competitive globalised environment. Flexibility and agility

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will be key to success in the globalised Europe. Where we can

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trade at any time with any market that is functionally similar without

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it having to be geographically approximate.

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Rob Watson, our UK political correspondent,

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unravelled the the different narratives we're hearing.

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I'm going to give you what I would like to think is a somewhat crude,

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straight talking but accurate summary of where we are.

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Essentially, Britain is saying, we want all the things that we love

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about the European Union in the future, such as free trade and being

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good mates, but we don't want the stuff we don't like, such as mass

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immigration and paying EU membership. The EU response has

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been, rather generally, we are sorry you're going, we still want to be

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mates but you've got to be kidding thinking you will get a deal that

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leaves you better off out! And another couple of quick points about

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where we stand - is the UK Government does have a coherent

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vision of Forte Post Brexit Britain looks like, they are certainly not

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letting know what it looks like! Theresa May didn't want us to leave.

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So how is it going down? The ordinary voters are being remarkably

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patient about it but a lot of the key groups and sectors who wanted

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Britain to remain, such as here in Oxford, for example, the university,

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or big business in general, they are thinking, crikey, we would like some

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answers sooner rather than later. And the worst thing for educational

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institutions or businesses wanting investment is the uncertainty that

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could go on for years? Absolutely. Question everybody is asking

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themselves in the UK is whether you trigger Article 50, and whether that

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is two years before we leave, and the betting that Theresa May will

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want to do it earlier, but I go back to that point that it is becoming

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clearer to everybody that the Government doesn't have a really

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detailed plan yet. It is very much feeling its way as it goes along,

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and what you are seeing from our European partners is that they are

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sitting back and, let's face it, they are still rather cross with the

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UK. They are saying, look, when you figure out what you want, please

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come and let us know. Just to throw something back at you. You don't

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reveal your hand when you are a poker player, do you? And it could

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be that the ministers know very well what their strategy is but they

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don't want it to play out on 24-hour news? Well, if they do have a

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strategy, they certainly aren't sharing it, and there may be

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elements you don't want to reveal, not revealing your hand, but also an

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element of making it up as we go along, because you have to remind

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yourself, Britain has never taken such a step like this in 40 years.

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It is one of the biggest diplomatic, security and political moves we've

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ever made, and the idea it was going to be done and dusted in a few

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months with everybody patting us on the back was always for the birds!

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Still to come, Kenya is using Chinese money to lay new tracks,

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but not everyone is happy about the impact, especially

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The independent inquiry into historical child sex abuse has

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suffered another setback, after news a senior lawyer has quit.

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Elizabeth Prochaska's resignation comes just a day

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after the lead counsel, Ben Emmerson, QC was suspended.

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Three Chairs of the inquiry have also stepped down

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Prime Minister Theresa May, who set up the inquiry

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when she was Home Secretary, said it was important

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The current Home Secretary has made clear that the original terms of

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reference were the right ones and I think that is important. But we

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should always remember why it is that the inquiry was set up in the

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first place, and when those terms of reference were set, they were agreed

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with victims and survivors, and it is those people who are at the part

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of -- heart of this inquiry. For too many years, too many people have

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been raising their voice, saying what has happened to them, and

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people have not been listening. This is Outside Source live

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from the BBC newsroom. Our lead story is one person has

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died and more than a hundred more are injured after a commuter train

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ploughed into a station BBC World Service reports that

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international dignataries, including the former US

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President Bill Clinton, have been arriving in Jerusalem

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to pay their respects to Shimon The former Prime Minister

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and President and died this Among the most-read on the BBC

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website, a US-based nonprofit group has launched the rainbow flag into

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space via a high-altitude balloon. The balloon captured video

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with a camera as it Organisers said they wanted

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to declare space gay-friendly, Stop trying to turn over the police

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vehicle immediately! The Missouri town was rocked

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by riots in 2014 after a white police officer was not charged over

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the death of an unarmed The events prompted

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President Obama's government to invest in more body

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cameras for police. New research shows that complaints

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against police fell by a massive 93% The study, led by the University

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of Cambridge's Institute of Criminology, followed 2,000

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officers in the Britain and America. We believe that the camera has an

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effect on the behaviour of officers and the people they interact with,

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and it seems that once the camera is on, people change the way that they

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behave, and it seems it is contagious, because not only do the

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complaints go down, but the officers -- with the officers with the

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cameras, but it also went down for officers who didn't have the

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cameras. More than 16 million

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people here in the UK have That's according to a study

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by the Money Advice Service. In these five areas of the country,

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Northern Ireland, the West Midlands, Yorkshire and Humber,

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North East England and Wales, more than half the adult

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population actually have less The average income in the UK is

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roughly ?27,000, so this figure of ?100 is ready quite know. What the

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report is saying is that four in ten UK adults struggle to put that away,

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and in fact in some parts that rises to 50%, so we're talking about 17

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million people in the UK who aren't able to put away and don't have

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savings of more than ?100. And when you look at the map for this study,

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there does seem to be something of a North-south divide, with London

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moving away? That's right. This report broke the figures down into

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regions and some regions fared worse than others. So the north-east of

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England, Yorkshire and Humber, Northern Ireland, Wales - more than

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these -- these areas have more than 50% of people who didn't have more

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than ?100 of savings. In the South things fared better but the message

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coming out is there are a lot of people who don't have much savings.

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Samsung is making headlines for all the wrong reasons again.

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It's in talks with American consumer watchdogs after a lawsuit over

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Earlier this month it recalled its flagship Galaxy Note 7

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smartphone after faulty batteries meant some phones

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Let's get more from Samira Hussain in New York.

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more about the exploding washing machines. I can see you now! It is

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not a very good time to be an executive at Samsung. So now it is

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embroiled in yet another problem, where some of its products are

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exploding. This time it is the front loading washing machines, and they

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are actually producing lawsuits which are pending in the United

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States. These are washing machines which were purchased anywhere

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between 2011 up to April of this year, so that's a long time, but it

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only affects machines purchased in North America. So what the US

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consumer protection agency is doing, basically the watchdog that protects

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consumers, they are suggesting people be very careful when using

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those machines and that they check to see whether their machines are

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part of the potential affected ones, and also don't overload your machine

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when using it. So smartphones, now washing machines. Obviously not

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connected but it doesn't do a lot for your brand reliability, does it?

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Exactly. A few issues here. Firstly it is the name sung song and being

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associated with everything that explodes. -- Samsung. Social media

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is having a field day with this! When it comes to the smartphone, it

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is a lot more significant because that recall happened just as Apple

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had released its newest iPhone, and now there are some analysts who

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believe that as a result of this, it is possible Apple will eclipse

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Samsung in the race war in smartphones, and it's already a very

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competitive market, and in terms of margins with how much you make from

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these smartphones, it is very small, so it makes that even more

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competitive. We can feel the tension! Thank you.

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Let's talk about takeaway coffee cups now.

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If you assume they're nearly all recycled, you're wrong.

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Billions of them are thrown away each year.

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So a campaign group has launched this initiative today.

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It's what they call a "cupifesto", calling on drinks retailers

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and politicians to encourage us to get reusable cups.

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One suggestion is to introduce a surcharge for takeaway cups.

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Kenya is building a new railway, and China is providing

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Costing billions, and due to cut across Nairobi's National Park,

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critics are concerned about the high cost and tough working conditions.

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Our Africa correspondent Alastair Leithead sent this report.

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For hundreds of miles, the lines are being laid, through the Savannah to

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the sea and to Nairobi. This is being built by a Chinese company

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with billions of borrowed Chinese money which will have to be paid

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back. But now the construction is encroaching into Nairobi national

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park, the voices of protest are getting louder. Once they introduced

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the railway there, the park becomes real estate, and they will do

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whatever they want to do with it. I've seen it elsewhere. I've seen

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people abuse public resources in this country. Nairobi is the world's

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only city to have a national park within its boundary but it is

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growing fast. Roads and housing estates are already surrounding the

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animals. This is the route the railway will take. It cuts right

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across the centre of Nairobi national park for six kilometres and

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it will be raised up on pillows, and although it will take 18 months to

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build, the Kenyan wildlife service says the animals are more resilient

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to the work than you might think. They chose this route as other more

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expensive plans would permanently destroyed parkland. We were between

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a rock and a hard place. Either give up 50 hectares, increase the cost by

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50% or have the least obtrusive bridge across the park. Kenny's

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first cross-country railway opened in 1901. -- Kenya. It was dubbed the

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lunatic line because it cost so much money, and hundreds of workers were

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killed by man eating lions. Critics see today's lined in a similar

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light. We don't need it. It is the most expensive project, single

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project, that we've done. It's not viable, it is not economically

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viable. Either now or in the future. The track lane is heading towards

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the Ugandan border and beyond, designed of the regional railway,

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and now neighbouring countries have different plans. It is lunacy or

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otherwise will be decided by how much freight it ultimately halls. --

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the lunacy of it.

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