12/10/2016 Outside Source

Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.

We start with the conflict in Serbia because the BBC has found evidence

that a rebel group has set up a camp to hold defectors from the Islamic

State. Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman has had his e-mails hacked,

he now says the FBI is investigating whether Russia was behind it. This

was the House of Commons earlier. I'm optimistic about the prospect of

this country once we leave the European Union. The pound is

plummeting, business is worrying and the government has no answers. I'll

update you on the Brexit debate shortly. This is the moment of

conception of the first baby made from three peoples DNA. A baby boy

was born last month. Leading scientists have major concerns about

how this technology is being used. Through the hour we are live in the

BBC newsroom, if you have any questions on the stories where

covering, you can get in touch in the usual ways.

A new report from Quentin Sommerville. The BBC has discovered

the existence of a camp in Syria holding dozens of defectors from the

Islamic State group. The prisoners are from Europe and the Middle East.

We know this camp is in the village in Italy province in the north-east

of Syria. Here is Quentin's report. Where do jihadists go

when their beloved Islamic State starts

to Some are being held here at a secret

camp in northern Syria. The men are from Europe,

across the Middle East, They are defectors

and prisoners of war. In retreat, many have

brought their families with them. In the headscarf is Abu Sumil,

he joined the so-called TRANSLATION: They use people

like human meat, you give your life to them, so they are going to start

to take control of your life. I know I will get into

trouble, but this is what I choose and I

will pay the price. I hope I can get out soon

and These are the Egyptians,

Tunisians, Holland. Its commander showed

me the details of If the authorities

promise to jail them. TRANSLATION: We refer them to courts

and they rule according to the If they have committed

murder, they might be Some are jailed just

because they still hold this The Islamic State's court

is collapsing, they are losing territory and

an increasing number of people are Joining IS was relatively

easy but leaving is It was hard, really hard,

says this defector. We've also learned European

intelligence agencies are one We've also learned European

intelligence agencies are on a mission in northern Syria to find,

capture and return IS supporters. They are working alongside some

rebel groups to create a kind of underground railroad which will

bring IS group supporters home to For now, they are held

in Syria, but these European Quentin Sommerville,

BBC News, Istanbul. Attacks coming from all angles. Here

is President Obama on Donald Trump. The guy says stuff that nobody would

find tolerable if they were applying for a job at 7-11. Or... I don't

know what job, if you were getting somebody for a job, and then you

heard what somebody said on tape about women... So decide what they

were saying... That you would hire that person for that job. That's the

first clip I've got to play you. The next person in the queue to attack

Mr Trump is the UN High Commissioner for human rights. If Donald Trump is

elected, on the basis of what he has said already, and unless that

changes, I think it without any doubt he would be dangerous. From an

international point of view. Mr Trump said yesterday the shackles

are coming off. Bearing in mind what it's been like when the shackles

have been on, the mind boggles. This week wiki leaks has released e-mails

sent within Hillary Clinton's campaign and these are Mr Trump's

thoughts on that. These wiki leaks from e-mails, confirm what those of

us here today have known all along. Hillary Clinton is a corrupt global

establishment that is raiding our country and surrounding the

sovereignty of our nation. -- surrendering. This criminal

government cartel doesn't recognise borders but believes in global

governance, unlimited immigration, and ruled by corporations. Let's

bring in Katty Kay to help us cover the story. In that clip we heard

Donald Trump saying these e-mails showed corruption, willingness to

create global government with unlimited immigration. Is this an

e-mails? Some of the e-mails that have been leaked to wiki leaks would

come from Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman John Podesta. They suggest

they and other people on the campaign, her spokesman Brian

Fallon, suggest there may have been contact between the Clinton campaign

and the Department of Justice at the time the Department of Justice was

investigating Hillary Clinton's e-mail server. It's all quite

convoluted but Donald Trump is using it to say, look, this is evidence of

corruption at the highest levels in American government. Hillary Clinton

is to blame for this. Collusion. That is why you should vote for her,

because she is part of all of that. The subtext of what he's saying,

because most people won't necessarily get all of the details

of these wiki leaks cables, who said what to whom when, she is part of

the establishment and the establishment is corrupt. And you

can't trust anything Hillary Clinton says. That is why he says he would

send her to jail if he was president. That's why American

voters shouldn't elect her. The big news really is he's taking on

Hillary Clinton today, he's no longer taking on Paul Ryan and the

Republican party as much. His problem is in a normal presidential

cycle this leak might be really news, but he appears to be being

overshadowed by his fallout with Paul Ryan, the second debate, the

video, everything else. Overshadowed by almost everything today. By the

fact that absentee voting is just starting in Ohio, that we have new

polls showing Hillary Clinton is on his heels in Arizona and Georgia.

Two Republican state you would never expect a Democratic president to

win. You've got Donald Trump's supporters hitting back still at the

Republican party and Paul Ryan, they say that we are the stall Watts, we

believe in Donald Trump. If Paul Ryan pulls his support for Donald

Trump there will be consequences for Paul Ryan. You've got the war in the

Republican party raging on, absentee voting starting in Ohio, a critical

state for both sides that they want to win. A lot of other news on the

campaign trail. This is interesting, from what you're saying, we have

this hailstorm of stories, but the core story is, it's getting pretty

difficult for Donald Trump in this race. Yeah, I mean, I think we've

been seeing this for a few weeks now, that the polls are not looking

good for Donald Trump. The question a lot of people here in America are

asking is, is there a group of people who are not telling pollsters

they are going to vote for Donald Trump, because they are embarrassed,

because they don't know what their friends or relatives colleagues

would say? It's being called the secret Trump vote. Is there a secret

Trump wrote that means the polls we're getting, which are fairly

consistently showing Hillary Clinton ahead, Hillary Clinton with many

more options for getting the electoral college votes she needs to

win the White House, are they missing something? We won't know

that until election day. There is a debate going on among strategists in

the US about how plausible the theory is. I'm thinking all the way

back to 1992, those of you who watched on the BBC News Channel will

know what I'm referring to, so called shy Tories came out in huge

numbers for John Major and he defied the polls. And got himself a

complete majority in the House of Commons. Which wasn't what was

expected. I've got a couple of extra details from Yemen that I want to

bring you before we take in other stories. An ongoing conflict there

at the moment which we've covered many times. For the second time in

the past four days a US Navy destroyer has been targeted, we are

told there was a failed missile attack from territory south of a

place we reported on the other day because of starvation that some

children are experiencing there. This is copy sent to the BBC

newsroom by Gary O'Donoghue, one of Katty's colleagues in the

Washington, DC newsroom. It's from the Pentagon, telling us the

destroyer involved was USS Mason. Targeted again, no injuries, no

damage to the ship, the missile didn't reach the ship. The ship

detected the missile. This is interesting, the Americans fired

countermeasures, we don't know if those are what stopped the missile

or if it fell into the water on its own. Pentagon copy being shared to

the BBC newsroom by Gary O'Donoghue. In a few minutes on Outside Source

we'll turn to the House of Commons because there has been a feisty

debate there today about the nature of Britain's exit from the European

Union. I'll tell you what the Prime Minister and the Leader of the

Opposition have been saying. The shop owner has been jailed for

at least 27 years for the judge called the frenzied murder of a

teenager. John Newcombe stabbed 15-year-old Paige Doherty after she

stopped at his stop in Clydebank. Her mother said outside that a

monster had been put in jail. There is no sentence high enough to

justify what has happened, we can now say there is one less evil man

in the world which makes our world that bit safer. Page can rest in

peace no injustice has been served to a high standard. We'd like to

thank the public for their support over the last seven months, without

it we might very nearly have given up. Reading comments and touching

words gave us strength to carry on. All we can do as a family is take

each day at a time. There's a huge piece missing in our family that can

never be replaced. I'm thankful for the 15 years we had with her. She

will live on through her brothers and sister and all the memories we

share. We're in the BBC newsroom. In Syria

the BBC has found evidence a rebel group has set up a camp to hold

defectors from the Islamic State group. Let's bring in some of the

main stories from BBC World Service. Reports that large crowd of

well-wishers pray outside the hospital in Bangkok where Thailand's

president is erase the ill. Doctors say his condition has not

stabilised. BBC Chinese reports on chaotic scenes in Hong Kong's local

assembly after three pro-democracy lawmakers used their swearing-in

ceremony to stage a protest. Newly elected members raised the

contentious issue of independence and expressed their opposition to

Beijing's influence in Hong Kong. Up to 80,000 farm rainbow trout have

been accidentally released into the sea in Denmark because a cargo ship

crashed into a fish farm. Environmental groups are urging

"Anyone with fishing gear to go fishing". The concern is the fish

could upset the ecological balance of the area. As I was mentioning

there were fierce exchanges in the House of Commons today. Brexit was

the subject, starting with Prime Minister's Questions. Jeremy Corbyn

the Leader of the Opposition describing a shambolic Tory Brexit.

In response, the Prime Minister said she was overseeing...

Those negotiations haven't started, the UK is still to trigger article

50 to do that. After Prime Minister's Questions a debate

followed that focused on deciding Parliament's input into these

negotiations with EU. Here is some of we heard. It's frankly

astonishing that the government proposes to devise the negotiating

terms of our exit from the EU, then to negotiate, then to reach a deal

without a vote in this house. There has been a vote, there has been a

vote of the British people. A vote that was delegated to the British...

A vote delegated... A vote that was delegated to the British people by

the terms of the referendum act. The British people may have voted to

leave the European Union but what they didn't vote for is for their

food to become more expensive, the wages of low-paid workers to be hit,

and for jobs to be lost in the manufacturing, agricultural and

banking sectors, which is what we are in danger of if we choose the

wrong exit from the European Union. We need to be explicit that while we

commend and welcome parliamentary scrutiny, it must not be used as a

vehicle to undermine the government negotiating position or thought the

process of Brexit. Both things are important. One important detail

picked out by the BBC's Norman Smith. It seems the clearest signal

so far from Theresa May she's not looking to negotiate continued

membership of the single market. Remember all of the EU members are

being cleared the UK can't have access to the single market unless

there is freedom of movement, freedom of movement and immigration

was one of the big issues of the Brexit campaign. You might be

watching this and thinking why would the UK Government openly discuss its

negotiating position before negotiations have begun? The BBC

chief political correspondent Vicki Young has been explaining the

arguments. They say they can get overarching

principles, for example they want to make sure UK laws are made in the UK

Parliament. They want to make sure there is some control over

immigration. They want to make sure they have the freest possible trade

relationship with the rest of the EU. Beyond that they are not willing

to give details. The important thing to point out here is there has been

a referendum. The majority of people in Britain did vote to leave.

Remember in the House of Commons there is not a majority of MPs who

want to leave. They are desperate to have their voice, desperate to have

a say in what happens next. Though they have the mandate, of course, of

the EU referendum from what some MPs are saying is how the UK leads, the

terms of how we leave, the arrangements we have, as a

continuing to be a member of the single market, so many complexities,

they say it's not clear what the British people were voting for when

it comes for that. They want to scrutinise, some want to have a

vote. The government's making it pretty clear they will not allow MPs

to veto it because some Brexiteers are suspicious of MPs who say they

want to vote. They think they are trying to overturn the will of the

British people. There are suspicions are perhaps rooted in the fact these

MPs don't represent the results of the referendum. That's right, some

of them in a tricky position. It's across different parties, we have

the opposition Labour Party, the opposition Liberal Democrats. Very

many Conservative MPs also, who's made it clear today they are pretty

willing to make things difficult for Theresa May, the Prime Minister, and

the government, in the coming weeks or months. She has said she will

kick-start the formal negotiations with the EU by the end of March next

year. It's not entirely clear will no much of the detail about exactly

what she's going to be demanding. Sigh MPs have said, as soon as the

talks start. Leaking out, the French, the Germans and Italians,

might well go public with what the UK is demanding. Parliament are the

last people to hear about what's going on. One of the consequences of

the Brexit vote is that the pound has been going down and down in

value. Not today. Here is part of the reason. BBC News online telling

us the promise of a full and transparent debate over Brexit is

credited with helping the pound stabilise. Today it rallied a little

after dropped earlier in the week. If you look at how the last week has

gone in its entirety, you can see the pound has been primarily going

down, though here is the 12th of October with that rally I've just

been describing. The Bank of England figures for Tuesday said the pound

fell to its lowest level in history. Not just its level against the

dollar, this is calculated against the importance and the value of

other currencies. I'm not going to get into the maths behind it. That

was what the Bank of England said. One way to show you how the currency

effect the price of things, Louis Freeh Tom Brown, one example,

converted to US dollars. I can't say I'm in the market for

one, but if you are, looks like London's not a bad place to go. I

want to talk about a company, and analytics form, -- firm, just cut

off by Facebook and Twitter. It was providing data some US police

departments were using to track protesters. Twitter has responded to

it, it has a Twitter feed called policy. It explains Twitter's

position on things. The ACLU is the American Civil

Liberties Union. Here's one of their lawyers explaining their position.

Companies like Twitter, like Facebook, and like Instagram,

shouldn't be providing a surveillance side door to a company

like this, it touts that law enforcement customers. And the use

of their product, to conduct surveillance on protests. These

networks have a choice and put themselves out there as supporters

of movements like Black Lives Matter. As fervent supporters of

free speech and privacy. The actions often reflect this. We think more is

necessary from the social networks. A few more things to understand

about this. Let's get some help from New York. This isn't information you

and I can access on twitter? Actually it is information, some of

it, that is out there: you can find. The difference is that getting it

directly from the company is simpler than if it has to go out and find it

itself. Some of the information I'm talking about, if you use geo- is,

in other words, if you post on Facebook a post and identify where

you are, your location, it could be the kind of information this company

has been collating into a survey and is tool. Which is being sold to

various organisations. -- surveillance tool. It's out there

already, but it's how it gets it that makes it simpler and quicker.

Sounds like a good revenue stream for companies like twitter. Who else

is it selling this information to? How does it that the people it makes

money from? This is the key question this whole debate opens up. Data

analytics is a huge business. From everything. Schools are using it,

companies using it, the media using it to try and analyse how many

people are viewing what, when, what are their habits? Retailers use it,

every aspect of business you're seeing is using this information.

The question is, who is your client? It seems to be part of the issue.

What is the role of social media companies to vet to their clients

are? What they are using this information for? It comes at a time

when there is a lot of sensitivity about how social media companies

cooperate with government agencies as well. It's another part of this

debate. There is a lot. The ACLU is trying to raise awareness about

this, trying to encourage social media companies to be a bit more

careful. We're going to stay in New York because we've got reports about

a New Yorker who runs a pawn shop dummy users snickers as collateral

so the shop is called Snicko pawn. Service sneaker. Part of being fly

and looking the best is your outfit, to top it off, you have to have the

right stalwartss. I wanted the best outfits. My father would buy my

Ferris. I got known for having all of the sneakers. He was taken

advantage of a little bit. He had the audacity to ask me for $50 more

to go out with his friends. That's why I said to him, listen, let me

hold a pair of those I bought you earlier, when you give me my $50

back, I'll give you the sneakers. That was the first new killers of us

coming up with the idea of sneaker pawn. The most expensive we've had,

we've had air Max, that we sold for... They go for 10,000, we sold

them for like 7500. We've had undefeated falls macro, that goes

for 30,000. I come to the store, go to work with my son, what could be

better than that right there? It's a story that came through a few hours

ago, the production company behind the latest Star Wars film has been

fined ?1.6 million because Harrison Ford broke his leg on set. It was in

the UK in 2014. Harrison Ford was playing Hans Solo and he was struck

by a metal door. While on the set of the millennium Falcon spaceship.

Lizo Mzimba has more details. Responsibility for safety on set was

down to the production company. Making store was -- making Star Wars

perforce awakens. Due to miscommunication on set Harrison

Ford was not expecting this steel edged hydraulically powered door to

be activated while he was rehearsing a scene on the set of the millennium

Falcon spaceship. It pinned him to the ground just above his pubic

bone, causing serious injuries. The court heard it was only an emergency

stop operated by the crew that prevented worst damage happening.

The court heard that the force of the door was stronger than the

strength of Harrison Ford's body. The Judge Francis Sheridan at

Aylesbury Crown Court described what had happened that staggering and

lamentable. They have 28 days to pay the ?1.6 million fine. Before we

wrap up this half-hour of Outside Source, let me show you Hillary

Clinton, speaking in Colorado at the moment. Earlier we saw Donald Trump

in Florida. The candidates are campaigning everything a day at the

moment, all the way to election day. We are listening to what she's

saying, see if there is anything worthy of passing on. We'll let you

know.