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Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source. | :00:00. | :00:12. | |
Top US intelligence officials have been giving evidence on claims | :00:13. | :00:14. | |
of Russian interference in the US election. | :00:15. | :00:16. | |
They say Russia has an advanced cyber programme that poses a major | :00:17. | :00:19. | |
threat to a wide range of US interests. | :00:20. | :00:23. | |
A BBC investigation has found that illegal drugs are being bought | :00:24. | :00:34. | |
online and delivered by mail all over the UK. | :00:35. | :00:36. | |
Apple has withdrawn the New York Times from its China App Store, | :00:37. | :00:45. | |
following a request from Chinese authorities. | :00:46. | :00:48. | |
Michelle Fleury in New York has been looking in this for us. | :00:49. | :00:53. | |
And if you want to get in touch we're on #BBCOS. | :00:54. | :01:16. | |
As I talked to you, the outside source screen is blank so I'm going | :01:17. | :01:24. | |
to try and present the programme from here, and I'm going to begin | :01:25. | :01:29. | |
with what the American director of National Intelligence has said about | :01:30. | :01:31. | |
Russian involvement in the US presidential election. This was a | :01:32. | :01:40. | |
multifaceted campaign. So the hacking was only a part of it. It | :01:41. | :01:49. | |
also entailed classical propaganda, disinformation, fake news. | :01:50. | :01:53. | |
These activities are ongoing now in Europe, as Europe | :01:54. | :02:03. | |
prepares for elections, is that a fair assumption? | :02:04. | :02:05. | |
Yesterday the Wall Street Journal indicated that the President-elect | :02:06. | :02:14. | |
is considering changes to the intelligence community. Have you, as | :02:15. | :02:19. | |
the experts in this field, been engaged in these deliberations, and | :02:20. | :02:24. | |
vice?: no, we have not. To reinforce the point, | :02:25. | :02:27. | |
we have a joint statement from US It reads "Russia is | :02:28. | :02:31. | |
a full-scope cyber actor that poses a major threat to US | :02:32. | :02:36. | |
government, military, diplomatic, commercial | :02:37. | :02:38. | |
and critical infrastructure. "We assess that only Russia's | :02:39. | :02:41. | |
senior-most officials could have authorised the recent | :02:42. | :02:47. | |
election-focused data Gordon Carreras gave me his | :02:48. | :03:04. | |
assessment of what we have learned. In a way it was a preview for what I | :03:05. | :03:08. | |
think will be the main event, when we get the report we are expecting | :03:09. | :03:12. | |
next week from intelligence officials about the evidence of | :03:13. | :03:14. | |
Russian hacking and interference in the election. They skirted around | :03:15. | :03:22. | |
the issue, touching it on it at various points but they were careful | :03:23. | :03:25. | |
about giving away too much detail. You got the broad outlines, they are | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
confident with the assertion that Russia was responsible for trying to | :03:30. | :03:36. | |
interfere with the election. Will we see the report? I did an interview | :03:37. | :03:39. | |
with the Russian ambassador to the EU and he said that the Americans | :03:40. | :03:43. | |
are saying this and he went, show me the evidence. Where is the detail? | :03:44. | :03:49. | |
That's what everyone is waiting for, we are expecting some kind of report | :03:50. | :03:54. | |
in detail. There will be different levels of classification. There will | :03:55. | :03:59. | |
be a public report. There will be a secret report, possibly more than | :04:00. | :04:03. | |
one with more detail. A lot of the evidence pointing towards why the US | :04:04. | :04:08. | |
is so confident the Kremlin was behind it may well be very | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
sensitive. It may be that the CIA has an agent in Moscow telling them | :04:13. | :04:16. | |
that and they won't want to put too much detail in a public report. | :04:17. | :04:22. | |
That's possible. They know they are under pressure, not least from | :04:23. | :04:25. | |
Donald Trump and others, to produce evidence to show as much as they can | :04:26. | :04:30. | |
to back up the assertion that the Kremlin was behind this alleged | :04:31. | :04:34. | |
interference. Interesting that Europe was mentioned. That was | :04:35. | :04:38. | |
interesting, a question from a Senator, do you think this kind of | :04:39. | :04:42. | |
interference extends to Europe and is ongoing? The intelligence | :04:43. | :04:46. | |
official said yes. We've heard it from some European countries. I | :04:47. | :04:52. | |
spoke to the body area and president before their recent elections where | :04:53. | :04:55. | |
he was standing down and he said that we have seen Russian attempts | :04:56. | :04:59. | |
to manipulate the election. We've heard Germany talking about it, | :05:00. | :05:03. | |
German officials sounding a warning about cyber attacks. Information | :05:04. | :05:08. | |
operations, influence operations to try and affect politics. There may | :05:09. | :05:14. | |
be people watching thinking, hold on, hasn't America been interfering | :05:15. | :05:17. | |
in elections since the Second World War? On one level you are right. | :05:18. | :05:22. | |
There was the interesting question, the Chinese hacked into the American | :05:23. | :05:27. | |
system to steal data, was that something equivalent to what Russia | :05:28. | :05:33. | |
did? American officials say that was espionage, different from | :05:34. | :05:34. | |
interfering with an election. They are saying that espionage is | :05:35. | :05:39. | |
standard and that they do that, so they won't kick up as much of eight | :05:40. | :05:48. | |
fast. But people may point to history -- a fuss. America | :05:49. | :05:56. | |
intervened in Iraq, but they may say that they don't do this any more -- | :05:57. | :06:02. | |
in Iran. Quick word about Donald Trump, he's a hard man to predict | :06:03. | :06:05. | |
but you would expect him to make some changes in US intelligence | :06:06. | :06:11. | |
based on his Twitter activity? A lot of nervousness in US intelligence. | :06:12. | :06:15. | |
Fascinating meeting, when he sits down to talk about the evidence with | :06:16. | :06:20. | |
them. They will wonder if he's going to do a clear out, whether he will | :06:21. | :06:24. | |
change the direction, whether he will take some kind of retaliation | :06:25. | :06:28. | |
for the sense that they have been criticising him and that he has been | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
engaging in this spat over the election. Interesting to watch. We | :06:33. | :06:38. | |
will talk to our correspondent in about 20 minutes about those issues. | :06:39. | :06:48. | |
A car bomb and gun fire involved in a terrorist attack in Turkey. The | :06:49. | :06:58. | |
first week of 2017 isn't over and yet there have been two terror | :06:59. | :07:05. | |
attacks in Turkey. The second was in the City of Izmir, the courthouse | :07:06. | :07:09. | |
was targeted, the police approaching a car outside to search it and then | :07:10. | :07:15. | |
the attackers inside the car shot and tried to attack a policeman with | :07:16. | :07:21. | |
an explosive device, a car bomb was detonated and in the mayhem one of | :07:22. | :07:26. | |
the policemen was killed. A member of the court staff was killed and | :07:27. | :07:29. | |
the two attackers were shot dead as well. The third attacker we believe | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
is still at large, wearing a black jacket and a white beret. Officials | :07:36. | :07:40. | |
say they expect that the PKK Kurdish militant group were behind the | :07:41. | :07:44. | |
attack and may believe a much larger attack was foiled given the number | :07:45. | :07:48. | |
of weapons found including machine guns and grenades. It's a few days | :07:49. | :07:57. | |
after the New Year's Eve attack on the Reina nightclub, that gunman is | :07:58. | :08:04. | |
still at large. Arrests have been made in Istanbul but not the gunmen, | :08:05. | :08:09. | |
leaving people feeling nervous. It has shown how difficult it is to | :08:10. | :08:14. | |
secure Turkey. How to keep the country safe. 80 million people, | :08:15. | :08:19. | |
bordering Syria and Iraq, it has the Kurdish insurgency in the | :08:20. | :08:23. | |
south-east, and it has the PKK and so-called Islamic State. More police | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
alone is clearly not the answer, they must have better intelligence. | :08:29. | :08:33. | |
Some attacks are being foiled but others are happening and that shows | :08:34. | :08:36. | |
intelligence gaps and it is making this country feel extremely worried | :08:37. | :08:37. | |
going into 2017. Mark mentioned the Istanbul attack, | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
we had a development on that today. But today several men connected | :08:42. | :08:54. | |
to him have been arrested, and all are reported to be | :08:55. | :08:56. | |
Uighurs from Xinjiang Uighurs are a mainly | :08:57. | :08:59. | |
Muslim minority, and they have a troubled | :09:00. | :09:01. | |
relationship with China's Uighur separatists are often accused | :09:02. | :09:03. | |
of terrorism in China. The government is accused | :09:04. | :09:06. | |
of discriminating against Uighurs. The modern grievances are two fold, | :09:07. | :09:21. | |
firstly some of them consider, they want a brief government of their | :09:22. | :09:28. | |
own, they country called East Turkistant which vanished after the | :09:29. | :09:31. | |
coming is to over in China, and some of them want to go back to the days | :09:32. | :09:37. | |
of East Turkistan. Also they've complained about the millions of | :09:38. | :09:43. | |
ethnic Chinese moving in from other provinces into the province where | :09:44. | :09:52. | |
they mainly live, making them a minority. That is the ethnic tension | :09:53. | :09:57. | |
side of the complaint. In terms of the radicalisation, the Chinese | :09:58. | :10:01. | |
government has made claims for many years, from the Taliban time because | :10:02. | :10:12. | |
ten free Mac is near Afghanistan. Claims that the Taliban worth | :10:13. | :10:19. | |
training them -- because Xinjiang is near Afghanistan. The exact | :10:20. | :10:27. | |
percentage, I doubt any can calculate that but to safely say, | :10:28. | :10:32. | |
there is a degree of... A BBC investigation has found that | :10:33. | :10:34. | |
large amounts of illegal drugs are being delivered by post | :10:35. | :10:37. | |
in the UK. The drugs are being | :10:38. | :10:39. | |
bought on the dark web. That's an area of the internet | :10:40. | :10:42. | |
where a large amount of illegal material and products | :10:43. | :10:45. | |
are shared and sold. Jim Connolly from BBC | :10:46. | :10:48. | |
Newsbeat has the story. It is an illegal trade worth | :10:49. | :10:57. | |
millions but your local postman could an Wichary -- good unwittingly | :10:58. | :11:03. | |
be delivering drugs. More and more people are buying drugs on the dark | :11:04. | :11:12. | |
web. What was in there? It's not of cannabis. You smell it and then | :11:13. | :11:16. | |
what? You tell the managers and they say that you must deliver it, tell | :11:17. | :11:25. | |
them to be more careful. Really? The Royal Mail says that it does not | :11:26. | :11:30. | |
knowingly carrying illegal items in the network. Getting drugs online is | :11:31. | :11:33. | |
becoming more popular with people like Steve who would only talk to us | :11:34. | :11:37. | |
if we protected his identity. It was cheaper and you had less chance of | :11:38. | :11:47. | |
getting skanked. We found it funny how she handed it over and said | :11:48. | :11:50. | |
thank you very much, she was completely unaware that she was part | :11:51. | :11:54. | |
of the drugs trade. This part of London news to be home to lots of | :11:55. | :11:59. | |
shots where you could purchase legal highs. The government say that new | :12:00. | :12:03. | |
laws to tackle this mean that the shops have closed down but we | :12:04. | :12:07. | |
managed to get these drugs on the dark web, getting around the issue. | :12:08. | :12:11. | |
We asked the government to speak to us about this but they declined. | :12:12. | :12:16. | |
They say they are spending ?1.9 billion over the next five years on | :12:17. | :12:20. | |
cyber security. How easy was it to buy the drugs on the dark web? We | :12:21. | :12:25. | |
met Chris, an independent security expert. Everything about it is | :12:26. | :12:31. | |
pretty much like eBay but it looks a bit more amateurish? The technology | :12:32. | :12:39. | |
is not as mature in many cases but you are accessing a very anon I | :12:40. | :12:43. | |
website which is hard to track down. We purchased ecstasy, marijuana and | :12:44. | :12:53. | |
a drug known as spice. A few days later, all three parcels are wired. | :12:54. | :12:56. | |
We took them to this government approved testing lab. These don't | :12:57. | :13:01. | |
look suspicious, there's no way that every single bike can be opened, we | :13:02. | :13:05. | |
would never get our post. There would be backlog is. We are looking | :13:06. | :13:11. | |
for things that look suspicious, and these don't. It may have only been | :13:12. | :13:16. | |
three samples but the testing proved everything we bought on the dark web | :13:17. | :13:20. | |
was as described, raising the question of what needs to be done to | :13:21. | :13:25. | |
stop this deadly trade. How will authorities tackle a global issue | :13:26. | :13:28. | |
where every time a marketplace is closed down, another appears to | :13:29. | :13:31. | |
replace it? In a few minutes we are going to be | :13:32. | :13:41. | |
talking about global warming. It is often stated that the speed of | :13:42. | :13:48. | |
global warming has been slowing but new data suggests it isn't. We will | :13:49. | :13:49. | |
get into that. The UK service sector | :13:50. | :13:55. | |
grew at its fastest pace for 17 months in December, | :13:56. | :14:00. | |
a closely-watched BBC's economics editor | :14:01. | :14:01. | |
Kamal Ahmed explained what's Andrew Haldein, the chief economist | :14:02. | :14:04. | |
at the Bank of England, he welcomed the figures | :14:05. | :14:11. | |
and was optimistic that 2016 had been stronger in terms of growth | :14:12. | :14:17. | |
than many people predicted, including the bank, that maybe it | :14:18. | :14:19. | |
had been too pessimistic. These good figures are based | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
on the great British shopper who has kept spending despite the warnings | :14:24. | :14:27. | |
of what the Brexit vote may bring. But Mr Haldein sounded a note | :14:28. | :14:31. | |
of caution when he said that this since the referendum means that | :14:32. | :14:40. | |
food imports and fuel imports are more expensive, | :14:41. | :14:43. | |
which is going to feed through to consumers | :14:44. | :14:45. | |
who may see higher prices, meaning lower spending, | :14:46. | :14:47. | |
which means possibly some tougher headwinds for the economy this year | :14:48. | :14:49. | |
and next year. This is Outside Source live | :14:50. | :15:01. | |
from the BBC newsroom. Our lead story is: US intelligence | :15:02. | :15:07. | |
chiefs have renewed accusations that Russia disrupted the presidential | :15:08. | :15:10. | |
election, and that it posing a threat | :15:11. | :15:13. | |
to a swathe of American interests. The trial of the woman at the centre | :15:14. | :15:23. | |
of a scandal involving South Korea's Choi Soon-sil appeared | :15:24. | :15:28. | |
in court in Seoul. She's facing charges of abuse | :15:29. | :15:31. | |
of power and attempted fraud. It's alleged that President Park | :15:32. | :15:33. | |
allowed Ms Choi to exploit Four people have been | :15:34. | :15:37. | |
arrested in Chicago over a live stream on Facebook | :15:38. | :15:42. | |
in which a bound and His assailants are heard making | :15:43. | :15:45. | |
derogatory statements speaking on the progress of a recent | :15:46. | :15:48. | |
ceasefire brokered Opposition groups have complained | :15:49. | :16:05. | |
of violations including air strikes from the government | :16:06. | :16:12. | |
in Wadi Barada, a village The government says it is targeting | :16:13. | :16:14. | |
terror groups not included Meanwhile in Geneva the UN envoys | :16:15. | :16:18. | |
for Syria have both been speaking on the upcoming peace talks | :16:19. | :16:26. | |
in Kazakhstan, and on water shortages that have | :16:27. | :16:28. | |
arisen around Damascus. There are incidents, we know about | :16:29. | :16:39. | |
them, we are involved and we are trying and hoping that the two | :16:40. | :16:47. | |
actors will secede in overcoming them and Richard the point -- | :16:48. | :16:57. | |
reached the point where facilities will recover. 5.5 million people | :16:58. | :17:04. | |
have had their water supplies cut or minimised. To sabotage and the night | :17:05. | :17:12. | |
water is a war crime. It is civilians who drink it and who will | :17:13. | :17:16. | |
be affected bash Mac and to deny water supplies -- and to deny water | :17:17. | :17:24. | |
supplies. Police in Austria say they are | :17:25. | :17:35. | |
looking for six men suspected of sexually assaulting 18 women during | :17:36. | :17:39. | |
New Year's Eve celebrations in the City of Innsbruck. The men are | :17:40. | :17:42. | |
thought to be from Asia or North Africa and the allegation is that | :17:43. | :17:46. | |
they groped and kissed women as they watched a fireworks display. The | :17:47. | :17:51. | |
assaults are a year after hundreds of women were attacked in Cologne | :17:52. | :17:54. | |
during the 2015 New Year's Eve celebrations. New Year's Eve | :17:55. | :18:01. | |
celebrations in Innsbruck. It was here in this crowd that 18 young | :18:02. | :18:06. | |
women who had come to dance and watch the fireworks were sexually | :18:07. | :18:10. | |
assaulted. Police say it was done by a group of five or six men. | :18:11. | :18:16. | |
TRANSLATION: The offenders surrounded the women dancing and | :18:17. | :18:21. | |
touched them inappropriately. The person leading the investigation | :18:22. | :18:24. | |
told the BBC that the number of the assaults and the fact they were | :18:25. | :18:28. | |
carried out by a group is unprecedented for Innsbruck. The | :18:29. | :18:32. | |
police are checking CCTV footage. The suspects are believed to be | :18:33. | :18:37. | |
between 25-30 years old, possibly from Asia or North Africa. The | :18:38. | :18:42. | |
nationalities are unclear. It is thought they in Innsbruck. Police | :18:43. | :18:46. | |
say that the surgeon includes refugee shelters. The assaults | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
happened despite heightened security in the City. Last year in | :18:52. | :18:54. | |
neighbouring Germany, hundreds of women were assaulted in New Year at | :18:55. | :19:01. | |
Cologne and anti-immigrant sentiment in Austria has grown after the | :19:02. | :19:05. | |
refugee and migrant crisis in 2015, when the country took in about 1% of | :19:06. | :19:18. | |
its population. A couple of you asking why I not using the outside | :19:19. | :19:21. | |
Source screen. It isn't using and we are working to fix it. We will carry | :19:22. | :19:27. | |
on with our coverage of the main stories. Back to the US now. | :19:28. | :19:30. | |
President-elect Donald Trump makes no secret of his disdain for US | :19:31. | :19:33. | |
companies who create jobs outside the US. | :19:34. | :19:37. | |
Today, Toyota was the target. It said it would have to pay a new tax | :19:38. | :19:47. | |
if the new car plant it is making is not built in the US. If you want a | :19:48. | :19:51. | |
measure of the importance of his tweets, the share price of Toyota | :19:52. | :19:55. | |
went down. It recovered but it shows the impact he is having. Chief | :19:56. | :19:59. | |
executives and people who have shares in these companies want to | :20:00. | :20:02. | |
know what the president is saying because it may affect the value of | :20:03. | :20:03. | |
their them is Sanaa the same joins us from | :20:04. | :20:22. | |
New York. This is an existing app and it is adding a new feature. It | :20:23. | :20:27. | |
will be available on the App Store and they say that as soon as the | :20:28. | :20:32. | |
President elect mentions a company, and we've seen it happening with | :20:33. | :20:36. | |
Toyota and in the past when he talks about Lockheed Martin or Boeing, | :20:37. | :20:40. | |
we've seen a big impact on their share price. This app will give you | :20:41. | :20:46. | |
real time information about stocks that you own with regards to | :20:47. | :20:51. | |
comments by the President-elect. For example, today if you own shares in | :20:52. | :20:58. | |
Toyota, you would have had an alert saying the President-elect has | :20:59. | :21:02. | |
spoken about a company that you own. Best have a look at the news. I | :21:03. | :21:06. | |
guess that it's inevitable that when the president speaks it will have an | :21:07. | :21:11. | |
impact on the value of companies but I can't recall Obama being as | :21:12. | :21:13. | |
specific in his messages to particular companies. This is | :21:14. | :21:17. | |
somewhat unprecedented which is why there is a lot of discussion about | :21:18. | :21:23. | |
it. If you look at social media and how people have reacted, there's | :21:24. | :21:26. | |
been a lot of scepticism when it comes to the President-elect | :21:27. | :21:32. | |
singling out companies like this. But it is in line with what Mr Trump | :21:33. | :21:36. | |
has always said on the campaign Trail, that he's going to fight for | :21:37. | :21:41. | |
the little guy, which he feels he is doing by calling out companies that | :21:42. | :21:46. | |
are creating jobs overseas and then selling products in the United | :21:47. | :21:49. | |
States or with regards to Boeing and Lockheed Martin, when they see cost | :21:50. | :21:54. | |
overruns for government contracts. Thank you for joining us. As you can | :21:55. | :22:01. | |
see, while I was talking till we have got the screen fixed. | :22:02. | :22:05. | |
A year ago Australian company Bririmian Limited bought | :22:06. | :22:09. | |
a lithium mining project in Mali for just $40,000. | :22:10. | :22:14. | |
It just sold that same project for around $78 million. | :22:15. | :22:19. | |
The growing popularity of electric cars. | :22:20. | :22:23. | |
Lithium is a key component in their batteries. | :22:24. | :22:27. | |
Francis Browne is a mining and metals expert at the commodities | :22:28. | :22:30. | |
Here is his analysis. It is an extraordinary deal and it shows the | :22:31. | :22:45. | |
huge interest in lithium as an as to invest in. Will it affect price? It | :22:46. | :22:51. | |
should but the scale of production and technology is going so fast that | :22:52. | :22:56. | |
the unit cost is coming down. Lithium, although vitally important, | :22:57. | :22:59. | |
is only a component of that technology. The capacity increases | :23:00. | :23:06. | |
in this particular commodity are actually quite slow, a lot of work | :23:07. | :23:11. | |
needs to be done to bring lithium to market. We are looking possibly at a | :23:12. | :23:15. | |
disconnect between supply and demand going forward. Why would save 5-10 | :23:16. | :23:19. | |
year horizon. The Consumer Electronics Show | :23:20. | :23:27. | |
is on in Las Vegas. There's a range of products | :23:28. | :23:29. | |
designed for the home, which claim to use Artificial | :23:30. | :23:31. | |
Intelligence. Here's our Technology | :23:32. | :23:33. | |
correspondent Rory Cellan-Jones. In a penthouse suite | :23:34. | :23:34. | |
at a ritzy Las Vegas hotel, There's a smart speaker | :23:35. | :23:37. | |
for children, where each ..there's even Nora, described | :23:38. | :23:40. | |
as a smart snoring solution. This little device is paired | :23:41. | :24:01. | |
with a pad under the pillow which detects me snoring and moves | :24:02. | :24:03. | |
just enough to stop me, The big theme this year is turning | :24:04. | :24:06. | |
the advances in artificial This one's meant to be a shop | :24:07. | :24:13. | |
assistant, while this one is designed as a companion | :24:14. | :24:20. | |
for children or elderly people. But AI seems to get everywhere, even | :24:21. | :24:26. | |
into this toothbrush, which learns Artificial intelligence is not | :24:27. | :24:29. | |
just gathering the data, Then you learn where your weaknesses | :24:30. | :24:34. | |
are, where your strengths are and the purpose is to become | :24:35. | :24:39. | |
better at taking care This walking stick is also | :24:40. | :24:42. | |
smarter than it looks. An in-built mobile phone sim | :24:43. | :24:48. | |
card means it can help It will detect the fall of its user | :24:49. | :24:50. | |
and when it detects it it will alert the family or the neighbour, | :24:51. | :24:57. | |
so they can come and And this clever mirror helps | :24:58. | :25:00. | |
anyone to try out make-up. Out on the Las Vegas strip, | :25:01. | :25:05. | |
Danny Manu, a young entrepreneur His instant translation | :25:06. | :25:12. | |
headphones aren't quite ready. They will eventually be | :25:13. | :25:20. | |
tiny earbuds, but he's This is important because we will be | :25:21. | :25:23. | |
able to showcase what we've been working on to the world, | :25:24. | :25:31. | |
to show this is something we started years ago as a small team, | :25:32. | :25:34. | |
as a small start-up, The odds are against Danny, | :25:35. | :25:37. | |
a one-man band taking on giants like Apple and Google, | :25:38. | :25:43. | |
but like plenty of people here this week, he's betting that he has | :25:44. | :25:46. | |
the product that can Rory Cellan-Jones, | :25:47. | :25:48. | |
BBC News, Las Vegas. That's it for the first half of | :25:49. | :26:00. | |
Outside Source. See you in a couple of minutes. | :26:01. | :26:06. | |
If you're going to the west coast of the United States in the next couple | :26:07. | :26:11. | |
of days, there may be some | :26:12. | :26:12. |