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Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.

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Let's look through some of the main stories here in the BBC Newsroom.

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This is an historic moment from which there can

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Britain is leaving the European Union.

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Formal notice came in the form of this letter - and now two years

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Our goal is clear - to minimise the cost

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for the EU citizens, businesses and member states.

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We'll be taking a look at what issues could be

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the most contentious for the two negotiating teams.

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The chairs of the a US Senate inquiry into Russian interference

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in the US elections say they will speak to over

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20 people - including the President's son-in-law.

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Plus, the year's best surfing wipe-outs on OS Sport.

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This is a man you are going to be seeing a lot of in the next two

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years. Michel Barnier will lead

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the EU's negotiating team. He's in Malta today with some

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of the EU's centre-right leaders. Maltese government spokeman

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@KurtFarrugia says: "This is Day 1 There are some points that both

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sides agree they want to sort out In fact, I just saw a tweet come in

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from one of you watching. Myself and my husband are both Swedish, we have

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lived in England for 20 years, will we be kicked out? I can't answer

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that. The status of UK citizens living abroad in the EU and EU

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citizens living in the UK is certainly a pressing one. Michel

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Barnier was on Twitter today. "@MichelBarnier #brexit

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made EU citizens worry Here is a senior figure within the

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European Parliament, the president, speaking earlier. European

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Parliament must defence it dozens' rights. This is why we need an

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agreement -- citizens' rights. We need Risse Brockley and

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non-discrimination. Not reaching a deal for the right citizens means

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not reaching a deal at all. As you can imagine, that's just one

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concern on a long list Others are immigration and borders -

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particularly between Northern Ireland and the Republic

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of Ireland, which is an EU member. Here's what Guy Verhofstadt,

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the European Parliament's Brexit The Brexit agreement needs to fully

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respect the Good Friday Agreement in all its aspects, and it means also

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that we will never accept a hard order again between Northern Ireland

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and the Irish Republic -- a hard border.

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There's the suggestion Britain will have to pay an exit fee -

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the argument being that the UK would still be liable

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for outstanding financial obligations in the EU budget it had

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already committed to, as well as things like EU pensions.

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Here's the Wall Street journal's reporter in

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Brussels Julia Verlaine said - "@JAVerlaine The 60 euros billion

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question: How big is the #Brexit divorce bill going to be?"

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We don't know the answer to that yet.

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And there's the question of what kind of trading relationship

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the UK and EU countries will have afterwards.

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Here's Guy Verhofstadt again on that.

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We hope for fair and constructive negotiations, that means no behind

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will back. And for example, we made very clear in our resolution that we

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will never accept for example that behind all back the UK is starting

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trade negotiations with other countries before the withdrawal,

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because until the withdrawal, the UK is a full member of the European

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Union with all of the rights, but also with all of the obligations.

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Let's being in Ken Brown, who has been covering the story all day --

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let's bring in Ben Brown. I'm interested in how the EU side of

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things, having won negotiation on the exit process and another on the

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future trading relationship. I don't understand how you keep those two

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apart? Well, that's what they want to do, they really do want to give

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them apart. In fact, I was talking to one member of the European

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Parliament who was saying, the thing with the British is, it's like

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walking into a restaurant and having all of your food together at the

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same time, all three York -- courses. Where is the EU want to do

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things separate and have it has three courses, so you start off with

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the financial deal on the divorce settlement, whether it is 60 billion

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euros or whatever, you start with that and then the other exit

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arrangements and the third course, if you like, is the trade deal.

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That's the way the EU want to negotiate it, and they are going to

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be firm on this. Whereas the British want to do it all together. And then

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they will be pleased they are finally getting on with this. I was

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there a few days after the Brexit vote and there was an impatience to

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get on with it. But if we pause, this is a huge blow to the European

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Union, isn't it? It really is. I think psychologically the European

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Union, if you think about it, is only ever growing, in large, had new

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members, new countries, countries really knocking on the door saying,

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please, let us in, we want to be part of your club. Suddenly today we

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have got British and the British permanent representative knocking on

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Donald Tusk's door and saying, actually, we want to leave your club

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and not be part of it any more. That is a blow psychologically. Then we

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have got the fact that Britain is a net contributor to the EU

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financially. And the EU, everybody here says it, is going to be much

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the poorer financially after the United Kingdom's withdrawal,

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billions of euros shorter. And other countries are going to have to make

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up that shortfall, that is another concern for them. Thank you, Ben

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Brown. Live with us from Brussels, just outside the European Commission

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building. Don't forget, while the EU

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will negotiate as one - whatever deal is reached,

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it'll need to be approved by the parliaments of

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the 27 remaining members. Arguably the most powerful

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of those is Germany. Here's the front page of Die Welt,

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a German newspaper, today: Very good, he says the Germans don't

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have a sense of humour?! Jenny Hill has been saying what it wants from

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Brexit. It has been to shore up the future of the remaining 27. Angela

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Merkel said that would be her lead during the talks. She also

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interestingly stress the need to protect EU citizens living in the

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UK. Germany and the UK for decades have been significant political and

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economic allies. Within the EU. Perhaps it is no wonder that today

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the German Foreign Minister appealed, let's try to stay friends,

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although he did also acknowledged that these talks are going to be

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very tough and there may very well be ill will on both sides. What of

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course really ties Germany and the UK together is business. The UK is

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Germany's fifth most important trading partner and there is a lot

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of concern about how that will be affected by Brexit. Today we heard

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from the Finance Ministry spokesman saying, the timetable for these

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talks is, and I quote, down narrow. He also talked about the uncertainty

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that this is creating with the business and economic environment

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as, poison. A lot of concern bird too. We are hearing a lot from, new

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factories who are keen to try and protect their deals with the UK, --

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from car manufacturers. There is concern that the EU must be

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protected first and foremost. If Germany is very influential, so is

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France as well. And of course there is an election coming up in France

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which will add an extra dimension. This is the front page of the

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Liberation newspaper saying, we will miss you, and in a smaller front, or

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not. Brexit is not the top story in France, the presidential election

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is, we have the first round towards the end of April, and whoever wins

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that will have a huge impact on how the French approach Brexit. Lucy

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Williamson is embarrassed. The two top contenders at the moment -- is

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in Paris. Macron is committed to the EU, liberal and centrist. His main

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rival is Marine Le Pen, far right and Front Nationale. She has

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promised to pull France out of the euro and hold its own referendum

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perhaps. Two very different stances. Emmanuel Macron made it clear that

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as far as he is concerned there will be no cherry picking on his watch.

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If he is in the Elysee Palace when Britain is trying to negotiate, they

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will find quite a tough cookie to deal with. He said that once Britain

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leaves the EU it will become a bit like the island of Guernsey, simply

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a trading post on Europe's borders. He is not going to be an easy

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customer to deal with. When it comes to public opinion here in France and

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political opinion, most of it or much of it seems to be with Emmanuel

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Macron. A lot of the candidates running in this election say they

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will make tough demands of Britain, and there are good reasons for that.

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There are many here who say they just don't want to encourage the

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kind of exit support or encourage people here to say that they would

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like to leave the EU as well. Of course that is exactly what Marine

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Le Pen does want to do. If it is her Britain ends up dealing with they

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will find a much softer negotiating partner, whatever national interest

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she is looking out for she is also going to want to make Brexit look as

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attractive as possible. Let's take a breather from Brexit

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and bring you some sports news. Some very happy Brazilian players are

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smiling. Brazil have become the first nation

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to qualify for next year's With four games to go -

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Brazil are top of the South American qualifying table -

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and they can't finish outside Columbia, Uruguay and Chile are in

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the top four automatic qualification places.

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You'll notice in fifth - it's Argentina.

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That is a potential problem for the Argentinians. Let's talk to Tulsen

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Tollett about this. I have not have a chance to look at this Brazilian

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team in detail. They didn't have a good last World Cup. I assume they

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have rebuilt since then? They certainly have. A new manager took

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over from Luiz Felipe Scholari. They were beaten 7-1 in the semifinal by

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Germany and then they lost to the Netherlands in the third and fourth

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play-off match. The manager was sacked after last year's Copa

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America in the emerging states. To tow then took over, they have won

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eight in a row and they are now points clear. -- nine points clear.

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Coutinho of local picked up the first and then two goals coming in

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the second half. -- of Liverpool. Neymar captained the team in the

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evening, the Barcelona forward picking up that. He missed the

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penalty as well. It was the Real Madrid vendor who picked up the

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third to send them nine points clear at the top. -- defender. This comes

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about because of the route's surprise 2-1 win over Uruguay. --

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per room's. For me it is down to Tito, the manager, who took over

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last June, it is brilliant. Tulsen, thank you.

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Madeira is a small Portuguese island off the coast of Morocco.

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It's where Christiano Ronaldo grew up.

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Well, the airport has been renamed in his honour.

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As was the Portuguese President and Prime Minister.

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Impressive guest list for a change in an airport's name.

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A bronze bust of Ronaldo which has been unveiled out

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It's been the butt of countless jokes -

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the main point being it doesn't look like him.

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You can compare and contrast. Ronaldo and the bust. I will leave

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you to decide what you think about that!

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The World Surf League has released its contenders

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They can all be filed under completely terrifying.

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He comes unstuck at the top of that wave. All of these guys practice

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holding their breath because they get help down for several minutes as

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well as obviously having huge volumes of water.

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Great Britain's Tom Lowe in Halfmoon Bay in California.

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Nathan Florence, off the Tasmanian coast in Australia.

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Some of these waves are up to 23 metres high.

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It's unimaginable even thinking about doing this, to be honest.

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This has the biggest waves to be served anywhere in the world, you

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get pulled right up and over the top of the lid.

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He is probably thinking of racking up millions of YouTube hits.

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The winner of wipe-out of the year takes home $5000.

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The person that filmed it gets $2000.

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The winner is announced in California next month.

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We might play it to you when we get the result. In a minute we

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live in Washington to talk to Anthony Zurcher about the latest in

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the investigations of the Russian interference in the US elections.

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A minute's silence has been held on Westminster Bridge to mark

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the moment Khalid Masood began his terror attack last week.

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The family of the American victim, Kurt Cochran,

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They mourned his loss together at the place where he was hit

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Kurt Cochran was the first to be hit when the vehicle

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Leslie Rhodes was also killed on the bridge,

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The final victim was PC Keith Palmer.

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He died despite the desperate efforts to save him.

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Earlier, at exactly 2:40pm, the moment the attack began a week

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ago, the family joined others on the bridge whose lives had

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They included Andrei Burnaz from Romania, who suffered a broken foot

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in the attack. His girlfriend Andreea Cristea was hit by the car

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and thrown from the bridge. She remains in hospital in a critical

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but stable conditions. Doctors, nurses and ambulance crews

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were also in Westminster, with schoolchildren

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and representatives They stopped in silence

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and solidarity. The memories of last week will have

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been particularly raw for A group who had lost

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a one of their own. They recalled the sacrifice

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of PC Keith Palmer. This afternoon is about remembering

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the victims of last week's events. Our thoughts and prayers go out

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to everyone who was affected It was a moment of calm

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after the chaos here It was also a united

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front against the horror Today, inquests opened into

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the deaths of three of those killed. It was also announced there would be

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two separate reviews of security But this afternoon was about an act

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of remembrance, a chance Daniela Relph, BBC News, Westminster

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Bridge. I'm Ros Atkins, thanks for joining

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me an Outside Source. Our lead story is Britain has

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formally notified the EU Theresa May called it an historic

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moment from which there I want to return to

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the investigations into alleged Russian interference in the 2016 US

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election - and President Trump's allegation that Barack Obama

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had him wiretapped. That's become more controversial

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because this man, Devin Nunes - who oversees the House

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of Representatives investigations - is accused of inappropriately

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assisting the White House - The new development

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involves these two men. They are are running

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their own separate investigation for the Senate -

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the upper house. Here's some of what

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they said today. The mission of the Committee is to

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look at any campaign contacts from either with Russian government,

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Russian government officials that might have influenced in anyway,

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shape or form the election process. Let's bring in Anthony Zurcher. I'm

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confused, how can this and House of Representatives need their own

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apparently quite similar investigations? Well, that is the

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way Congress works, they are intelligent committees in both

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chambers of Congress, people who want to be involved in both chambers

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of Congress so they are going to follow their own tracks. With all

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the attention focused on to the House intelligence committee it is

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easy to forget that the intelligence committee has been grinding away

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simple the beginning of this, rational term. Staffers are poring

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over thousands of pages and planning on calling 20 witnesses to be

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interviewed privately. They will possibly have their own public

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hearings with James Comey, FBI director, and will reach their own

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conclusions. Is this a plate by the Senate to get more responsibility

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against the other committee? The best that the house committee has

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developed into with the allegations around Nunez coordinating with the

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Trump White House and Adam Schiff, the Democrat, calling for an

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independent investigation, it is logical that the Senate intelligence

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committee tried to step in and seem like the big boys in this equation.

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Generally the Senate is last partisan than the House of

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Representatives. I think they have made a conscious effort to downplay

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partisanship today, to be seen, operating and to be working together

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in order to reach some kind of conclusions. -- to be seen,

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operating. Now, I just want to turn

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to the Congress and a vote on Tuesday that repeals a law

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meaning US internet service Yesterday Donald Trump's

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reversed US policies aimed Also this week, China has

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reiterated its commitment Here's a Chinese spokesman

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on the obligations TRANSLATION: No matter how

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other countries policies as a responsible, large developing

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country, China's resolve, aims and policy moves in dealing

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with climate change will not change. We are willing to work

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with the international community to strengthen dialogue

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and cooperation, to join hands to promote the process of tackling

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climate change to jointly promote green, low carbon sustainable

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development for the whole world, to create an even better future

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for the next generation. In the US there are big divisions

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between science and politics. The scientific community is trying to

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find new ways to break political barriers and reach the American

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public. Scientists have made a new discovery

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that you can ignore politics but politics won't ignore you. We're

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going to cancel the Paris climate agreement and stop all payments of

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the United States tax dollars to UN global programmes. The public really

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do feel like their worldviews and mindsets are not being reflected in

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the science that has been put out there. Instead of changing the world

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with your mindset, they are doubting the fact. Conservative voters

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particularly concerned scientists, for that group trust in scientific

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research is actually on a 40 year low. How can scientists change that?

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I would love to see 20% of Congress a double of scientists and

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engineers, I think we would have a very different approach to governing

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if we didn't have that -- made up of. Rather than waiting for a seat

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at the table, they are going after it. A political action committee was

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started to train scientists to run for office. It can be a challenge

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for scientists to communicate with the general public. We are working

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with our candidates to help facilitate that as well. But how

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many would actually be interested? It turns out, a lot. 3000 have

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already signed up for training. We have a lot of people in Congress

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right now. The government went straight into public policy with no

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expertise into any area whatsoever. I think we need more politicians

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that go off on a track when they need and expertise in an area,

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whether it is medicine, science, agriculture, anything, and then

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comment with that knowledge and be able to make sound public policy.

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That's the long game. But to put science at the centre of political

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conversation now, they are taking a page from the women's march. As a

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scientist and knowing a lot of scientists, it is embarrassing it

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took so long for people to mobilise. I think things got more dramatic in

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the last month. Caroline turned to Twitter to organise a march for

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science in April. In just four hours, ten followers turned into

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30,000, and now over 220 cities are planning marches of their own.

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Obviously it would be great if it was an enormous crowd. But what is

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most important is that it is not just about kind of the politicians

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or the representative seeing it, it is about the people who are actually

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doing the march and the idea that he was around by people who kind of

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share this concern about the lack of evidence -based policy but also just

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this passion for science. We have just got a tweet from Apple, who is

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watching on BBC News channel in the UK. Now that Article 50 has been

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started, can you go back to using feet instead of metres when you've

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described the waves in your surfing reports! These negotiations for

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Brexit of early important, but whether we use feet or metres will

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just be decided by those of us here at the BBC regardless of whether the

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UK is in the European Union or not. Thanks for all your questions. I

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will be back tomorrow at the same time. See you then. Bye-bye.

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