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Hello, I'm Nuala McGovern, this is Outside Source.

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The two contenders for the French presidency are going head-to-head

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20 million viewers are expected to tune in as centrist candidate

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Emmanuel Macron and his far-right rival Marine Le Pen try to convince

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undecided voters why they should be the next French President.

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The debate being seen as the climax of a long and bitter campaign.

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The final run-off takes place this Sunday.

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As the UK gears up for its own election, the gloves

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Threats against Britain have been issued by European

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All of these acts have been deliberately timed to affect

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the result of the general election that will take place on June eighth.

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The FBI Director has defended his decision to make public

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the re-opening of an investigation into Hillary Clinton's

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emails less than two weeks before the US election.

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Everybody who disagrees with me has to come back to October 28th with me

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and stare at this and tell me what you would do.

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Would you speak or would you conceal?

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We'll talk to Anthony Zurcher in Washington about that and we'll

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hear from Barbara Plett-Usher about the Palestinian President's

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That's all coming up on Outside Source.

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French presidential candidates Marine Le Pen and Emmanuel Macron

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have just begun a live televised debate ahead of Sunday's second

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and final round of voting in the presidential election.

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Let's take a look at what is happening. TRANSLATION: Ameen, they

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are financed from abroad. You know all about that. Qatar and all these

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countries. I remember that at the time you maintain tax exonerations

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and exemptions for investment from these countries. And in your

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governments, I believe that you granted some Republican decoration

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to one of these people, you gave them a medal. We have to eradicate

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the fundamentalist eye John G in our country, that is not something you

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are able to do or are doing -- eradicate the fundamentalist

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ideology. Your toy might hold you in its claws, it is really scary.

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Marine Le Pen speaking. I'm joined by Agnes Poirier,

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journalist and broadcaster. She has been watching this and will

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be with us throughout the were. It looked pretty sparky as I was

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watching it? The gloves are off. Basically, she started off very

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well, but then on the economy, not her favourite topic, she kept

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attacking a Emmanuel Macron, not explaining her manifesto or

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anything. Micron scored a lot of points then. He actually looks a bit

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condescending, a bit arrogant, because all she was doing was

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attacking him. And then they went on to talk about social care and

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national health insurance in France, the debate cooled off a bit. Now

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they are debating terrorism, a topic she is much more comfortable in. We

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will expect some more robust, but perhaps she will gain back some

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credibility. The first part of the debate she was really not at her

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best. Another hour and a half of this debate? It is very wrong. And I

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have hardly seen the two moderators speak. That is what happens during

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that debate, those journalists are not journalists, they are just there

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to canned minutes in time allocations. Just need to make sure

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that one does not talk more than the other. Those numbers that the

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viewers will be seeing on-screen are the minutes allocated so far in the

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hour, proceeding, basically, how much each candidate has spoken. Can

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these debates really make a difference? I have heard 18% are

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undecided. Of course. It is the last thing, the climax of the

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second-round campaign. As you said, the abstention might be very, very

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high this year at this election, so they need to go for the last voters,

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basically, they need to attract them and convince them. It is a

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pantomime, theatre. Even watching the body language, it was

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incredible. Thank you, Agnes Poirier, you will be with us

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throughout the other, watching it for us and bringing us up to speed

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on the issues. Where do these two candidates stand

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on some of the bigger issues On the EU, Emmanuel Macron

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has said he supports Marine Le Pen wants out

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and has said she will hold This is what a lot of people talk

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about when they talk about these candidates.

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On immigration, Emmanual Macron favours giving citizenship to those

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Marine Le Pen says she wants to stop illegal immigration and cap overall

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On France's sacred 35 hour work week, Emmanuel

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on that but says any overtime pay will be exempt from tax.

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I thought that was an interesting aspect of it.

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Marine Le Pen simply says she will keep it.

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One place being closely watched this election is the town of Troyes.

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Emmanuel Macron and Marine Le Pen were separated by less

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Francois Fillon won the vote here, but with him out of the picture it

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Here we are in the north-west of France in an area famous for it

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champagne but also for textile industry. Famous brands like Lacoste

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come from here. This is a conservative stronghold but Marine

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Le Pen has come first in the first round in the whole of the region,

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with the regional score of 30.3%, which gives you a bit of an idea

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what may happen on Sunday. She clearly has a strong lead in this

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region. How are people bad feeling about the debate on the run-off, the

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second-round of the election? -- how are people there feeling? We were at

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the local market and people were saying they have not decided what to

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votes on Sunday, they will be waiting for the debate to decide.

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Depending on the performance of either candidate. It is interesting

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to note that 15 years ago when John Marine Le Pen -- John Marine Le Pen

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was in the final against Jacques Chirac, Chirac refused to debate

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with him because he said there is no debate to have with the far right.

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It is the first time the far right candidate has participated in a

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debates, a key moment in the debate in France. It will be interesting to

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see how Emmanuel Macron, the outsider, the former banker,

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pro-European candidates, will handle this debate tonight. It will be the

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occasion for both candidates to voice their programme and try to

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convince voters to turn out on Sunday, but of course we will see

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what kind of performance they will be having. It is a bit of a gamble

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for both candidates. Whether it will have an impact on the last-minute

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decision of voters, we will know very soon. We will keep you across

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that story throughout this hour. Thank you to Thomas Fessy.

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Theresa May has launched an attack on Brussels -

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shortly after she attended the dissolution of parliament before

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Brexit negotiations are central to the UK election campaign

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Whoever wins on the 8th of June will face one overriding task, to get the

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best possible deal for this United best possible deal for this United

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Kingdom from Brexit. And in the last few days, we have seen just how

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tough these talks are likely to be. Britain's negotiating position in

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Europe has been misrepresented in the continental press. The European

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Commission 's gauche rating stands has hardened. Threats against

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Britain have been issued by European politicians and officials. All of

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these acts have been deliberately timed to affect the result of the

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general election battle take place on the 8th of June.

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Meanwhile the European Union's chief Brexit negotiator has been setting

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out his priorities for the first phase of talks with

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Speaking earlier today in Brussels, he said there were three

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Our recommendation shows where we want to land when we conclude the

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first phase of negotiations. Citizens rights, the financial

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settlement and a new external border. I will pay great attention

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to the situation in Ireland and I will be going to Ireland next week.

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Curious what he will say that. After he set out the EU's main

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priorities, Mr Barnier made it clear that the Brexit process will not be

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easy. Some have created the illusion that

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Brexit would have no material impact on our lives, all that negotiations

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can be concluded quickly and painlessly. This is not the case.

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One thing Mr Barnier didn't mention was the size

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of the Brexit bill or, as he called it, the

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The Financial Times reported this morning that the UK might have

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This what the UK Brexit Secretary had to say about that.

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The numbers that have been bandied around in the press, 50, 60, 100

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million, we don't recognise and we had no indication of it. We have

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said throughout that we will meet international obligations and enter

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into the negotiation in the best interests of us and the European

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Union. Earlier I spoke to Alex Forsyth

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from our Westminster studio. This is quite an extraordinary

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intervention by Theresa May. She accused some in Brussels of not

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wanting the UK to get a good deal out of Brexit, she accused them of

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trying to interfere with the outcome of the UK general election, so she

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is ramping up the rhetoric. Part of that reason is because she thinks I

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play well with some voters in the UK, those who backed Brexit might

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want to see Theresa May take a tub stands going into the negotiations,

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but it is a gamble because not everyone in the UK backed Brexit on

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some might not like the tough talk. If Theresa May wins the general

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election on June the 8th she will have to sit down and negotiate with

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the EU, this kind of language and the kind of accusation she has made

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may not play well with them. Say they are words that cannot be

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unsaid, it is starting off on a very poisonous, some would say,

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atmosphere to begin negotiations that Britain is looking to get a

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good deal in? One Theresa May sent the letter which began the official

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process of the UK leaving the EU, she did show -- did so in terms of

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goodwill, talking about the special partnership and reaching out to EU

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leaders. The hope was that negotiations would be done really

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positively. In the last few days we have seen briefings from Brussels

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against the Prime Minister after she met senior EU officials in Downing

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Street, now Theresa May has said what she has said today, there are

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plenty who say that once you say these things they will be there for

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the duration. Some in the EU recognise that the little context in

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the UK, there is an election going on which will be the first priority

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for Theresa May. They said any suggestion that EU officials are

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interfering is pure fantasy, but nonetheless it sets the tone for the

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negotiations, which were already going to be very difficult.

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Donald Trump welcomes Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas

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to the White House to talk Middle East peace.

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We'll be live in Washington to find out what's been said

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A 20-year old student has been found guilty of planting a home-made bomb

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Damon Smith, who has Asperger's syndrome,

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was caught on CCTV leaving a bag filled with explosives and ball

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The device was discovered when the train driver

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The train was evacuated just two minutes before Smith had set

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The Metropolitan Police say it's not clear if he was motivated

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by terrorism as there was not enough evidence that his crime

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A fourth person has been arrested in connection with the death of

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businessmen Guy Hedger. The 61-year-old was shot

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during a burglary at his home near Ringwood in Hampshire

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in the early hours of Sunday. Officers say three of the suspects,

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who are all in their 40s, were arrested in the Bournemouth

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area. Detectives are trying to establish

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why the home of the former marketing This is Outside Source live

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from the BBC newsroom. The two contenders for the French

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presidency are going head-to-head in a live televised debate ahead

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of Sunday's final round of voting. FBI director James Comey has been

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testifying before a Senate subcommittee investigating alleged

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Russian hacking of the US elections. The hearing comes a day

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after Hillary Clinton spoke about what she believed the reasons

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for her losing in November were. Let's bring up a little of what she

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said. Mrs Clinton is referring

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to the publication of James Comey's letter informing Congress the FBI

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had reopened an investigation into her use of a private email

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server just over a week Well, Mr Comey was asked

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about this at today's hearing This was terrible. It makes me

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mildly notion is to think we might have had impact on the election but,

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honestly, it wouldn't change the decision. -- it makes me mildly

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nauseous. Everyone who would challenge the decision has to tell

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me what you would do, would you speak or conceal? I could be wrong,

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but we honestly made a decision between those two choices that even

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in hindsight, and this has been one of the world's most painful

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experiences, I would make the decision, I would not conceal but

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from Congress on October 28. Anthony Zurcher is in

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Washington for us. What is the reaction been? You have

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seen Hillary Clinton supporters feeling like you we go again with

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James Colby defending his investigation, they feel it was

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extremely influential on the outcome of the election, they blame him,

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including Hillary Clinton has blamed him, for contributing to her defeat

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so they will look at the testimony and say it is more of the same, he

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should not have done anything as far as revealing the investigation right

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before the election. Meanwhile you heard from Donald Trump last night,

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tweeting about all this attention on James Colby and the investigation is

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a Democratic way of explaining their defeat, to try to find some sort of

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reason for their defeat rather than the fact that Donald Trump ran a

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good campaign and they did not. You are seeing the same battles we heard

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shortly after the election in November continuing to play out

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months and months later. What might happen next, he is in front of this

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subcommittee, will he look at further allegations of hacking

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within the election? This is the justice committee in the Senate,

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they have not primarily been tasked with investigating the hacking and

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Russian influence, that is an ongoing investigation that the FBI

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is conducting under James Comey. Where we will hear more about this

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is in the Senate intelligence committee and the house intelligence

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committee, they are calling testimony, including Comey, to talk

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about possible Russian meddling. At some point we will find out what

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happens with the ongoing FBI investigation, but there is no

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indication it will wrap up any time soon. It will be hovering over the

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Trump administration for the rest of the year, I think. You think so?

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Clinton investigation went on for almost a full year, this one seems

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even more involved. When James Comey testified a few months ago he said

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the investigation was just in its early stages, but in fact it had

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been started in the middle of last year. So if it is still in its early

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stages of an investigation which started in July 2016, we can

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expected to go on for some. Thank you.

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The Russian president has welcomed the Turkish president to his summer

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home in Sochi. He said reaching a political solution to the conflict

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was a joint goal of Turkey and Russia. Other topics to be discussed

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include Russian trade restrictions on tourism, the two leaders have

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praised bilateral relations. It is important that we have managed to

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seize the full bilateral trade, there was a small growth of

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commodities in the first few months of this year, to around 3%.

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TRANSLATION: In times like this when huge responsibility lies on our

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shoulders, I am sure that the steps we take it together will change the

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future for the whole region. One of my colleagues from BBC

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Turkish joined me to talk about the significance of the meeting between

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the two. This is the fifth meeting of these two leaders since August

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2016, ever since Turkey's downing of the Russian jets in November 2015,

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this is a very strong message of normalisation of bilateral relations

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between two... We can say two neighbouring countries in the

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region. The two leaders specifically underlined that relations are back

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to normal and business as usual and even though they have significant

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disagreements on Syria they have managed to have a couple of serious

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deals in this meeting. We saw 22 billion dollars to be invested

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within the nuclear power plant in Turkey by Russia, the other going to

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try to revive tourism. Can you tell us a bit about that? Tourism and

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trade art two significant elements in Turkish/ Russian relations,

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especially in the southern parts of Turkey, they rely on Russian

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tourists and Russian agricultural trade. The restrictions imposed by

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the Putin administration had significant impact on these regions

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and their economy. We saw that Russia agreed to withdraw all the

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restrictions except on exports and to take the business back to normal.

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Thanks to my colleague for that analysis. Let's move on to business.

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It's been a big day for the ride-sharing

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app Uber in its quest to develop driverless cars.

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A court has ruled that Uber has not infringed intellectual property laws

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after it hired an engineer who used to work for a rival firm.

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Dave Lee is outside the court where the hearing has been taking place.

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Dave, good to have you back, what has been happening? The hearing is

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still going on, they kicked all the journalists out for a private

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hearing happening right now, but this morning we got a glimpse of

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precisely what this row is about. On the one hand you have a company

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which spun out of Google's cell striving car division, accusing

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Nowell of essentially stealing their technology, taking it away from

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Google and creating their own self driving division. Uber dispute that,

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saying it has not happened. Although they do not dispute that a former

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employee took some files from his former employee, basic glove has not

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use them for anything so it can't be guilty of stealing trade secrets and

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infringing on patterns. We are waiting to hear today an injunction

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will be applied to Uber which could seriously hamper efforts in

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developing and researching this technology. So it is employees

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moving from one company to the other? It centres on a man who is a

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pioneer of self driving technology, he used to work for Google in their

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self driving division, he left very suddenly in January 2016, set up a

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new company called auto which was subsequently bought by Uber very

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quickly, the accusation is that new company was simply a front for Uber

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taking this employee from Google. Leaver say that is not what

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happened, they say it is very usual for top talent to go from company to

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company and there was no wrongdoing, but the former Google company think

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they haven't Uber banked to rights. Thank you very much.

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The US central bank has left its benchmark interest

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Last week, the US economy surprised economists when the annualised rate

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of growth fell by two thirds compared to the end of last year.

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In a statement, the Federal Reserve said it views the slowing in growth

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during the first quarter as likely to be transitory.

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Let's get more on this with Samira Hussain in New York.

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Let me bring you up. Tell us a little about what people are saying

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about this? No one expected the Federal Reserve to raise interest

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rates this time around, but there are a few things that people wanted

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to see in the statement that we got from the Fed. They wanted to see the

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reaction from the Federal Reserve about this really low growth

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numbers. The US economy in the first few months of this year only grew by

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0.7%, that is not very good. We see the Fed's interpretation that this

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is a blip in the system. What the Fed has emphasised as some of the

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good things happening in the US economy, namely the labour market,

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that we are seeing strong climate numbers. The second thing that

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people will look for is if we don't see a rate rise now and we're pretty

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much expecting two rate rises from now until the end of the year, when

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will we see the next one? The fact that the Federal Reserve is

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downplaying the bad growth numbers and playing up the good, solid

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numbers we are seeing from the labour market, it is possible we

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could see a rate rise come as early as next June. We have 20 seconds,

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any response about the Trump effect? I cannot answer that because I have

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not seen anything like that, but I can't know for sure. Thank you very

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much. No doubt soon people will begin to hear exactly what it is,

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about what Mr Trump might begin to respond when we get some of those

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figures. We will have to keep an eye on his Twitter feed. Another

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half-hour to come.

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