17/07/2017 Outside Source

Thank you for joining me. Our lead story is the second round of Brexit

talks have begun. The UK has been outlining for key areas, including

Citizen's rights. The EU is asking for more information. We need to

examine and compare our respective positions in order to make good

progress. Following the immigration crackdown in America, we have a

special report on the families with no criminal record who are being

split up in the process. California's governor is fighting to

retain a tax that punishes heavy polluters. It is part of efforts to

meet the terms of the Paris climate deal, even though President Trump is

ticking the US out of it. We will be hearing from Roger Feder. He has

been speaking to the BBC about his ambition to become number one in the

world. Now, the BBC investigation into the

Trump Administration's immigration crackdown. Donald Trump came to

office promising to deport criminals who were in the US illegally. The

panorama programme has found that thousands of undocumented immigrants

without criminal records are being targeted and that families are being

split apart. Hilary Andersson is the reporter on the story. These are the

children. One morning in May when they were getting ready for school

in their home in San Diego, border patrol officers came and arrested

both of their parents. They came up to my mum and told her she was

arrested and put handcuffs on her. We were shocked. We all just sat

down and cried. Their parents have been living in America illegally for

21 years. Border patrol initially suspected them of involvement in

international human trafficking, but later dropped the accusation. The

parents run a smart ice cream business and have no criminal

record. The first night alone, the children all moved their beds in the

same room for comfort. The older brother now does his best to run the

household. The border guards knew they were leaving a teenager in

charge of children. The asked me, are you Francisco? It can take care

of them. The lefties here with the full family's yes. President Trump

came to office on a promise to criminalise people for deportation.

We have bad people here and we will get them out. In his first 100 days,

41,000 illegals or suspected illegals were arrested. Most were

criminals but there was a massive spike in people who were

non-criminals being arrested, who are undocumented. Supporters say

they are rightly enforcing the law. Nobody wants families to split. The

way to ensure that is, if you are a family, is not to come to this

country illegally. Sometimes the sins of the family are visited on

the sand and that is unfortunate, but the Government did not create

them since. They went to visit the parents and the detention centre.

Their mother has been released on bail but both parents face possible

deportation, as do 11 million undocumented immigrants in America.

Let's bring in our correspondent. Help me understand this. Donald

Trump said he would deport criminals but was he not also saying he was

quick to crack down more broadly on undocumented immigrants? He said

that throughout the campaign. In other interviews she, when asked

when anyone who was illegal would have to go, she said yes. People at

the time said this was not practical and you could not deport 15 million

or whatever the number is of undocumented immigrants in the US.

What we have seen is the Trump Administration at least trying to

deport as many as possible, or at least arrest as many as possible

anywhere in the country. The Obama administration was focusing on the

border and people with criminal records. The hill on Twitter is

saying Trump has the lowest approval ratings of any president in 70

years. I am wary of these approval ratings because Donald Trump

completely foxed the polls as well when he won last year, didn't he?

Right, most of the polls had a consensus that he was going to lose

the popular vote by several percentage points, which is what

happened. Where the real errors were in polling, we did not think he was

going to be able to rent Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. He

managed to win that way. 36% approval rating is remarkably low at

this point in the presidency. It does not mean anything until

Republicans decide it mean something, offers holders decide it

will cost them their jobs when they run for real action next year when

we get to the general election in 2021 and he is trying to run for a

real election. It is about whether he is liked more than his opponent

and not whether he is loved over all. A quick word about health care.

It is made in America week at the White House. Is there a health care

week planned any time soon? At the made in America week. I do not know.

Republicans keep trying to get something passed. Donald... He is

out of operation for the next week or so and cannot vote, so they have

pushed off any thought for the week or so or longer. That shows how

narrow the edge that this report is on. One vote that they were counting

on, if it does not show up, back and threw everything into chaos. As you

are here, I will throw this question at you. This viewer would like to

ask you, can you talk us through the impact of America having a more

closed border policy, the economic impact, what are the arguments? From

a business standpoint, growing up in Texas, the businesses that I lived

around, the sort immigration was a boom. They thought it lowered the

cost of labour and allowed them to create products more cheaply. The

actually liked having immigration. If you go to someplace like midwest

where blue-collar jobs, industrial jobs, were being taken by immigrant

workers, they would have a very different perspective and that is

that immigration was hiding them. It was driving down the wages and

affecting them. Immigration can have a very specific harm for a lot of

people, while generally the market is better for it. It drives down the

cost of goods. If you have a job in manufacturing, and can be very

painful if it is affected by immigration. We have not got you out

yet. We will keep trying. If you ever have questions, we are right

here in the BBC News room surrounded by experts on all of the main

stories we are covering and connecting you to the BBC News rooms

around the world, too. Let's talk about Roger Feder. He won Wimbledon

for the eighth time. It has never been done before by a man. He has

won two of the last three grand slams. He did not play in the French

Open, that is 100% return. He is not the world number one. That is Andy

Murray. He would like to be, though. He has been talking to the BBC. I

think it is going to be a three or four weight race with me and Rafer,

when Andy is going to drop his world number one ranking. If Andy wins

again, we have to win again. If he starts dropping points, we will get

there. I hope it is me and not Nadal. It would mean a lot for me to

get back to number one. I was trying to explain, have not thought about

it a lot yet. I have to speak to the team and decide how much I am going

to chase it for the near future. I might get to number one 11 time in

my career, or is the goal finish the year as number one. For me it makes

no difference being world number one for one week or ending the year

number one at this stage in my career. They have to have a meeting

and discussion with my team about that in the coming weeks. Our

favourite question is how long you are going to play for? You have won

two grand slams since she turned 35. In the 1970s, Ken did that. Does it

appeal to you the thought of putting your expertise, your experience

against guys who have your age? How it feels to play against players

have my age? It feels also quite different. I love the times when I

came on tour and I played the people from the video games and TV and here

I am thing against them. Now I am playing, I am on the opposite side.

I am the guy they know from TV and now... I don't know, it is quite

different. Different from what it used to be. I am enjoying myself and

I like to, you know, guide them and help them along the way. If they

have any advice they see, I'm happy to give because it is so important

to share experience and knowledge about the game and game will always

move on and always be bigger than any athlete. Am happy I can be in

the sport for as long as I can delete might have been. Hopefully it

will be a while. The reason he was saying I am not sure if I will go

for world number one is that he missed the French Open not because

of injury, but just to rest. He made the decision that a full season

would be too much on his body will stop he is picking and choosing more

but it is harder to be number one then. Let's talk about the women's

football to an and it started yesterday in the Netherlands. Ben is

helping us cover this all the way through. He has been telling me

about the format. For the first time ever, 16 teams

competing in the Netherlands For groups play over the next few

weeks of group matches and the top The quarterfinals,

semifinals and the final. Important date,

Sunday six of August. How have the Dutch taken to the turn

it? The Netherlands one

by one goal to nill. The Dutch are getting

really behind it. Here it Utrecht, which is one

of seven host cities, There is a fan zone up

the road from here. We were there watching

at that fan zone. When that goal went in,

drinks were spilt, drinks were had. I noticed on my way to work,

I saw several adverts for this This is all evidence that it is

getting more promotion now. And the competition is getting closer and

closer. European countries are getting more competitive. Domestic

league, Italy is seeing more professional clubs taking part. One

team is about to start up a team. It is competitive in France and we know

all about England with the women's super league. It is getting more

competitive, more TV coverage and read your coverage. As that goes

through the process of this to an end, the profile will just keep on

rising. Cycling next. The rest day but Chris, who is in the yellow

jersey was talking about yesterday. It was a dramatic stage. He lost one

minute on the road before getting back to his rivals. It was a close

run thing. You're geeky is talking about it. I was standing on the side

of my road. -- European is talking about it. I thought that was

potentially game over for me. If you go all the way to Paris, will you

look back and think that was the day I did not win but I saved it. Let's

get to Paris first and then I can think about that. If I just reflect

on yesterday, that was a huge save. That was really touch and go if I

was going to make it back. If I did not reach that front group, I do not

believe I would have made it to the finish line in yellow. It has never

been this close in the history of the tour. Great for us but what is

it like for you? It is stressful but we knew that this year was going to

be the closest fought battle I have ever done and the biggest challenge

of my career to date. It is shaping up to be that. Was it more enjoyable

getting the yellow jersey back than getting at in the first place? Of

course it was a disappointment to lose it in the Pyrenees when I had a

bad day. I am feeling better and better. Hopefully that means with

time, I came in really fresh and hopefully going into the third week

now, that'll put me in better shape than some of my rivals. BBC radio

five live interview there. Full coverage on the sports app, five

live and here on BBC News Channel and World News. In a couple of

minutes time, a report to play you. It is about a memorial forest that

has been planted close to Amsterdam's airport to remember

those who lost their lives on the flight.

All this year, Hull is celebrating being the UK City of Culture. Nine

places in the city are getting listed Heritage status. Among them

is the Humber Bridge. It was built in 1981. One of the most spectacular

bridges in the UK. Our arts correspondent has been looking at

it. The Humber Bridge. For years, the longest single span bridge in

the world. Now joining Westminster Abbey, Buckingham Palace and ten

Downing St as a grade one listed building. A place of architectural

and historic interest. It gives me great pleasure to unveil this plaque

and to clear the Humber Bridge open. The new honour comes exactly 36

years to the day of the official opening. They cost more than ?100

million. At the other end of the scale, something from the very year

the Queen was born. This art and of all public convenience from 1926.

These pilots on the Hull waterfront have been chosen because they were

designed to cater for men and women, very rare at the time and most of

the original fittings have been preserved. What were they like

inside? It felt like they were great to listed, to be fair. Impressive?

They could do with a clean, I reckon. I think it is marvellous.

Hull has always been known by most people were only salesmen and

relations go. Perhaps the kind of people who meet in toilets. Speaking

of Philip Larkin, the house where he lived for more than 18 years and

wrote some of his most famous poems. Walking around in the park should

feel better than work. The lake, the sunshine, the grass to lie on. And

the hope here is that Hull Vista rate will have an important role to

play in its future. It did lose a lot of good buildings during the

Second World War. Things are now on the up and up and people are more

optimistic. This state is that we are getting from the listed

buildings, grade one, is marvellous. The Humber Bridge was only designed

to have a life span of 120 years but now its place in history is secured.

We are live at the BBC News room. Our lead story is that the second

round of Brexit Thaksin started in Brussels. Four main areas have been

outlined, and dozens rights and the divorce bill. We talk an awful lot

about Donald Trump ruling America out of the Paris climate deal. At

the time of the announcement, several US states came out and said

they are going to stick to the terms of that deal anyway. One of them is

California. One of the measures it wants to use to meet those times is

to extend what is called a cap and trade programme, essentially taxes

businesses for putting. The man who is promoting it hard is Governor

Jerry Brown. James Cook is with us from Los Angeles to tell us more

about it. Hello, James. I associate California with being

forward-thinking. Is there much resistance to what he is suggesting?

Yes, there is some resistance and comes from both sides. Resistance

from some businesses who are concerned about the impact on

industry and resistance, more so in some regards, from

environmentalists. Not all, some are on board but others think that too

many concessions have been given to the businesses. The governor of

California is trying to find the middle ground to get this bill

passed in the Senate in Sacramento, the state capital and the assembly

there. What is interesting is the extent to which Jerry Brown, who has

been around in US politics for decades, is emerging. His state is

emerging as the defect to challenge to the Trump administration when it

comes to climate. Forging a completely different path. He

recently travelled, Jerry Brown, to China to meet with the leadership

they talk about reducing emissions and lots of other countries around

the world are looking to California. At the same time, the Trump

administration is pulling out of the Paris

climate agreement. California, the most populous state in the United

States, and the US as a whole, going in different directions. It is an

irony here. I have met lots of Republican voters who have real

against too much centralised power and here we have the devolution of

the American response being driven by a policy of the Republican

president. That is fair and a good but states rights are at the heart

of what a of Republicans believe in. People are more forthcoming and

forthright about those rights when it suits them than when it doesn't.

Do not forget that within California, with a 30% of

Californians voted for Donald Trump. A significant proportion of the

state, particularly in rural parts of California, where they are fans

of Mr Trump and his approach and not fans of the approach of Jerry Brown

and what they would regard it an overweening, far too oppressive

approach from more on the left wing. Jerry Brown would say that is

nonsense and this bill is about something much wider than all of

that. It is about protecting the error that Californians read and the

air people outside Californians breathe outside. California wants to

reduce its emissions by 40% between now and 2030. Without this bill

going through, it is going to be very difficult to see how they will

do that. One thing I am wondering, we are talking about how businesses

pull it. You are city, where you are sitting now, has thousands and

thousands of cars all driven by individuals pushing out the small

bits of pollution. Our air costs been putting on the individual as

well? Our costs. Not a direct sense but California has passed is a gas

increased the tax on fuel to pay for increased the tax on fuel to pay for

measures, to reduce carbon emissions. This is not the only

measure that is being taken to try and tackle emissions in California.

As you rightly say, the city has a huge measure with emissions. The

smog is not as bad as it used to be, but that is still an issue. Higher

taxes are not popular but they have been approved by the people of

California. How interesting. James, thank you. Keep us posted, please.

We are going to finish the programme with a report about a memorial

forest that is being planted in an airport. That is where Malaysia

flight took off three years ago. It headed for Kuala Lumpur but it did

not get there. It was... Close to the border with Russia. A space full

of life. Created to remember the dead. And reflect. Three years have

passed. The families brought together by a loss now find comfort

in each other 's presence. It means the world. I have met some people

who have been through the same tragedy as I have been through. What

a lovely, lovely place. It has been a lovely day. Again, lovely people.

I am honoured to be a part of it. 80 children were among the 298 people

killed when the flight was shot out of the sky. The joint investigation

team is still gathering the evidence they hope will eventually reveal who

is responsible. Their sorrow is aggravated by what they believe are

deliberate attempt to muddy the waters with Miss information, pushed

out of the country that could hold the most critical clues. I have

never said anything derogatory about anybody. I want someone to come out

and say why it happened. I do not care how it happened now. They will

not bring the people back. I think it would be nice to know why.

Someone to hold the hands out. All the names were read out today. There

were a lot of people who struggle to read the names out, especially young

children. It was tough me. I was one of the last ones to get up. The

longer it went, the harder it was. I would like to think I did Liam and

John justice. The pain will never go away but some peace. Tell us why.

This memorial forest was designed to signify life, growth and the hope

that so many of these families are still coming onto. -- clinging onto.

Anna's report finishes this edition of Outside Source. Thank you for

watching. We will be back tomorrow at the usual time. We will see you

then. The week ahead is a story of ups and

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