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injured. And reports across the Spanish media of one attacker being

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killed in a shoot out with police. Continuing coverage here on BBC

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News. Hello, I'm Philippa Thomas and you

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are watching Outside Source. Terror on the streets of Barcelona is a van

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ploughs into a crowd in the popular tourist area of Las Ramblas. The

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Catalan government says 13 people are dead. The police shouted at

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everyone just to run. There was a really loud kind of crashing noise.

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I mean, I didn't stop to look back. It was just an immediate stampede in

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the opposite direction. Catalan police confirmed they are treating

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it as a terror attack. Within the last hour, they have made an arrest.

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They dismissed earlier reports that two gunmen were holed up in a bar in

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a city. -- in the city. Welcome to Outside Source, where we

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are continuing the BBC's live coverage of the terror attack in

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Spain, where a van has driven into crowds, killing at least 13 people.

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Let's recap what we know. This happened in Barcelona in the

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north-east of Spain. In fact, if I take you closer into the city, you

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can see that we have highlighted exactly where the attack occurred.

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Las Ramblas is the city's famous tourist hotspot area. A white van

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mounted the pavement and drove into pedestrians. 13 people have been

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killed and more than 50 others have been injured. According to police,

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the van entered the famous street from the north side. Let's see if I

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can bring this up for you. It came in on the north side of Las Ramblas.

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And it went at some speed down the strip, coming to a halt about

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halfway down. To give you an idea of just how busy this area usually is,

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we have a photo from yesterday showing it is packed, it is

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extremely popular with tourists. Police confirmed on Twitter they

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have arrested one person. Despite reports about this, they say there

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is no continuing hostage situation. Police have also of a man, Driss

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Oukabir. We understand this is the man who rented the van involved in

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the incident. Police posting this tweet to say what is obvious to us

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all now, this is being treated as a terror attack. Jama Anwar was in

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Barcelona. He witnessed the attack and spoke to the BBC as the story

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unfolded. Las Ramblas is right in the heart of the city, it is

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jam-packed with thousands of tourists. I was about to sit down

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for something to eat. Then I decided to walk down a bit further.

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Literally seconds later, heard a crashing noise. The whole street, I

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started hearing screaming. Everybody started to run so I started to run

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in the direction people were running. Families were screaming,

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their kids, they were taking them out of prams and started to run.

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Within seconds, police officers were out. I noticed yesterday when I

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arrived in the city that, you know, there is a heavy police presence.

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Guns were out, ambulances, fire engines. You could see at the top of

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the street, a sort of like vans. I spoke and try to get into a shop

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because people were panicking. There was a shopkeeper who was speaking

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and said something about a van. I try to ask him, and he said that a

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van had driven into the crowd, and six people were very seriously

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injured. At that point, the ambulances, fire Brigade, police

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officers were on the scene with machine guns and guns, very quickly.

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They were very jittery and people were panicking. And then we were

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pushed back again and then pushed further back. The police are

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absolutely everywhere at the moment. now via Skype is a reporter from BBC

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Persian who is in Barcelona. I can see table behind you, you are pretty

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near the scene. What is the situation right now? About 100m from

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Placa de Catalunya, which is not really far away from where the

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attack happened. The crowds were being directed out of this area up

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until maybe ten minutes ago. It just shows what a massive population was

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in that area. Because as we know, it is one of the most visited parts of

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Barcelona. But panic still continues to be the mood. Because a few

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minutes ago, the crowd suddenly got scared of something, we don't know

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what. They started running. Behind them were police officers with guns,

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just right behind me, following, chasing, as if there was somebody in

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that crowd that they wanted to arrest. And then everybody

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dissipated. And it wasn't clear where it. Did. But it just gives you

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a sense of how worried the population is, how word gets out

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that something is happening. And it might be just a mistake. But it

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creates panic. There are choppers overhead in the last few others. As

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you said, right behind here is the centre of where it all happened. And

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there are images of police with big guns, long guns, going street to

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street, especially in the old part of Barcelona, which is the other end

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of La Rambla, and chasing people, making sure that every house, every

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restaurant, making sure that the person they are chasing is not

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there. And continuing the search. We now have reports that one person has

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been arrested and also reports that one have been killed, it is unclear

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which is the case. Nevertheless, the city of Barcelona, where I was about

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seven hours ago, exactly the spot the attack happened, it has changed

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dramatically the past few hours. It is panic and people just waiting to

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see where it will all wrap up, when it will all wrap up. So that they

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can go back to normal. Many people cannot reach their it is in the

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cordoned off area. Many of the hotels are in fact in the area of

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Las Ramblas, where it all happen. It is affecting many tourists as well,

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as this is ongoing, both the investigation in the area that has

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been cordoned off for the crowds to walk onto. As you have been talking

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I have heard the sirens behind you and seen the blue flashing lights go

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by. We only have one name so far released by the police, Driss

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Oukabir. They say he rented the van involved. But just remind us, in the

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last few hours, a lot of people in the city have been terribly

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frightened because there were rumours about gun men, about a

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possible hostage. Many, in fact, many people said that in a

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restaurant hostage crisis is happening and it's ongoing, they

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have big guns and there are's of them. None of this turned out to be

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true. As you can imagine, the situation like this, not just

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word-of-mouth but obviously on social media, things get out and

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they are not true. They are on comfort, and it creates more fear.

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In the population. Add to couple that with the pictures that were

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released, many have seen them, horrifying images of people on the

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ground, bleeding, something to be unconscious in the middle of La

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Rambla, where thousands of people walk by, they know this spot. So

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that adds to the feeling, the reality that this might be an

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ongoing situation and it has not ended. There is a possibility of

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something else happening. Hence this crowd that just ran across the

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street a few minutes ago. Very much panicked, not knowing why they were

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running, but they were running because somebody said something and

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everybody followed. Thank you. I know he will bring us an eyewitness

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report if there are any further development at the scene. We could

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hear helicopters above your head. It is clear that security is a is

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ongoing. Thank you very much. I also want to bring you some of the

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reaction. The world has been watching this terror attack in

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Barcelona. For example, another -- a number of tributes from within

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Barcelona. The football club say they are deeply saddened by the

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attack on our city, our thoughts with the victims, the family, the

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people of Barcelona. Gareth Bale of Real Madrid... And then as you go

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around the world. For example, this just brief from Melania Trump, the

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first Lady of the United States. The Ellen show, the world of

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entertainment as well. People all watching, people all feeling for

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those who were caught up in this, injured, killed, traumatised by what

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has happened and may still be an folding. We will bring you more

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reaction and we'll keep in touch with what is happening on the

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ground. I want to talk to Tom Burridge, our former Spain

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correspondent. Tom, I know you were actually listening into Spanish

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radio. There is a press conference starting right now. The head of the

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Catalan government, Catalunya has a very devolved government with their

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own police force, Mossos, they are leading this investigation. It has

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literally. Begun. He said that according to solidarity amongst

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communities, although there is nothing at this stage to link this

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terror attack with any Islamist group at the moment, it is far too

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early to start making that assumption or theory, even. But, you

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know, you have Muslim groups in Spain coming out quite clearly now

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via Spanish media and condemning this attack in the strongest

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possible terms. The Islamic commission of Spain. In a separate

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incident, this information is coming from a Catalan newspaper, they have

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got a lot of journalists on the ground, they are telling us about

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this incident in a place to the west of Barcelona, really out of the

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city, about three kilometres. They are saying there was a shoot out

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there. This Spanish newspaper, Catalan newspaper, saying that

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basically that was linked earlier in the evening, people have been

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following this story for a while now, there were reports of a police

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officer being run down by a car. They are saying it was linked to

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that. The car was followed to this area just outside of Barcelona and

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there was a shoot out and one suspect has been killed. This was a

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separate incident? Yes, we need to get across this press conference

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happening in Barcelona and ascertain what the actual facts about this

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incident. There is information coming from a different town called

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Vic, that is in cars -- Barcelona, well outside of Barcelona, a car has

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been impounded there. The mayor of that town is saying that that, by

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now at least, that part is linked to the investigation. It might turn out

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in a few minutes time, later in the evening, that that part has nothing

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to do with the terror attack in the centre of Barcelona. Viewers need to

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know that we are watching not only the centre of Barcelona, but the

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incident on the outskirts and this one in Vickers, a town well outside

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Barcelona. Just to get us back to the basics, it has been confirmed by

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the police that they are looking at at least 13 deaths? I have just

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watched a couple of videos. They are horrific. Coming from a journalist

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friend in Spain, actually, who is in Barcelona, at least a friend of his

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has sent him the videos. We know how quickly videos spread around these

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days. Videos from Las Ramblas. It is just heartbreaking to see. It is

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quite shocking scenes. You know, it looks like children are among the

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casualties, for sure. But they are saying the official figure at the

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moment is 13 dead, that is coming from Mossos, the Catalan police.

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That they confirmed figure. They are saying 15 people injured, though.

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There are various figures about how many of those people are seriously

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injured. More than 80 have been hospitalised, that has just come

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through. Two people have been arrested as well. I will let you

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catch up, I know you were listening in Spanish. You were talking about

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harrowing images coming through. I should explain to our viewers, the

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police have said they are grateful to much of the media for not sharing

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some of these images. Because they are of all. That message goes out to

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the wider public now. They are awful. The -- anybody can find video

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and share it, this is not just this attack, it was the case in Neath and

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Paris. The police are saying that they do not want people to share the

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videos, people have been killed and have life changing injuries. Keep

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listening and keep us up-to-date. We are working out how many different

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scenarios there are an folding. If you are just joining us, I want to

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remind you of our main story. A van has driven into crowds, killing at

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least 13 people in Barcelona in Spain and injuring 50. Well, we were

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dust hearing 80. Tom Mark Royal is an American tourist who just arrived

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when the attack began unfolding. This afternoon I came in on a

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flight, and I was in a taxi just turning onto Las Ramblas. Maybe just

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a block and a half from the town. I was just looking at the boulevard,

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from the back of the taxi. And then I heard this group of people scream

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at the same time. And you just don't think of this, naturally. And then I

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looked to my left, and I saw a white van with its front looking like it

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was broken out. And it was going. At first I thought it must be somebody

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just working and driving, like a service vehicle. Then I realised he

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was going entirely too fast. It looked to me as if he was going left

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to right, hitting people at the little stands. There were people

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shopping, basically. And all of a sudden people were just screaming

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and running. My taxi stopped. We knew immediately, you know,

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naturally what was happening and what was going on at that moment.

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And we waited for a second. And my taxi driver just started saying, oh,

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my God, oh, my God. And I was in shock. And then we just turned right

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around the corner, because I was literally near my hotel. And I ran

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into the hotel. And then everyone was running into any space, of

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course, that they could find for safety. And they were coming into

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the hotel and screaming. Interesting, I turned around and

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they were starting to run the other way. And that was when the hotel

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staff put me behind the front desk down on the ground. And that that

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point I just... It just seemed so real. -- it seemed so real. They got

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all of us together in a ballroom, just in the interim of the hotel,

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which to me didn't feel safe at all because there was really no... There

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was nobody and to protect the room of people. And for better or for

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worse, I left the room and I said, just give me a room key now. They

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gave me a key and I came upstairs. I figured I would rather be one person

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in hundreds of rooms than hundreds of people in one room. And now I'm

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just... I can see every body across at the other hotel, everybody is

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just watching out of their window, watching, what now?

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We are keeping across the story in Barcelona for you. In the last human

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as we have heard that at least 13 have been killed, 80 hospitalised --

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in the last humanist. The messages of solidarity coming in from around

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the world. I want to show you this, which is pretty important, from the

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man of Barcelona. -- the mayor of Barcelona. A defiant message and a

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message of gratitude to the reaction that's coming in from around the

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world. Mariano Rajoy as well, the Spanish Prime Minister. He is saying

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basically he is going to Barcelona committee is on his way, talking

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about the maximum coordination to stop the perpetrators and strengthen

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security and to think, to tend to all of those who have been affected.

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He is talking about unity as well. I brought you a couple of reactions

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from Barcelona football club and a Real Madrid player. Manchester

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United... The world of sport, entertainment,

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politics, all coming through. A current Barcelona player here.

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You know, as we were hearing earlier from our correspondent on the

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ground, there are still security operations going on, still

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helicopters in the sky, sirens on the streets, people who are very

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frightened and have been fighting for hours. Not only because of what

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has happened with the car racing down the street, ploughing into

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people, injuring and killing so many, but the reports there have

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been, which the police now say are erroneous. There were reports of a

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couple of gunmen in a bar, possibly hostagetaking. And this kind of

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thing meant that many of the people in Barcelona, residents and all of

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the foreign tourist, were petrified and really didn't know where to go.

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I want to bring you another eyewitness reaction. One of those

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who have spoken to the BBC is Shelby Mansell from Bristol in the UK. She

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was in a market near the scene of the attack, and told us what she was

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seeing. We were in a market, which is an Las

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Ramblas. And we were just about to go back onto the main street. But we

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stopped to look at some cakes in the bakery. And suddenly there was

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screaming, and hundreds of people just swarmed towards us, screaming

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and running. Lots of confusion. We ran into the bakery and ran up the

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stairs to hide. As we looked out the window, people were still running

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through the market. Hundreds and hundreds of people. Running through

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the market. Shutters were coming down. Just lots of screaming and

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running. And then we waited. For a few minutes, and it seemed to calm

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down. We were told we could go up. So we went out back into the market.

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And the second wave hit. We were told it wasn't safe and we had to

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get back inside. The police then swept through the market with guns.

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From where we were, we could see through the market. There were about

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seven police officers with guns, surrounding a doorway. And then

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that's the point where we just sort of head under the table, upstairs in

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the bakery. And we just waited to hear. The woman said that she had

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run off Las Ramblas and heard gunshots. Then we were there for

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about 40 minutes, I think, hiding. And then we were told it was safe to

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come out, but we must move away from the area.

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I have come back to the desk where Tom Burridge, our former Spain

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correspondent, is keeping on top of everything and simultaneously

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reading the Spanish reports and listening to Spanish radio. Tell us

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where we are at? We have just had a press conference at Catalonia's

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regional government, significant devolved powers to that government.

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They are saying 90 victims but 50 injured. I guess that is people

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caught up in the incident, but 50 injured. So, a new grim figure I

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guess coming out as part of that press conference will stop 15 people

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are said to be in a very serious condition. And of course, we all

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knew that it is 13 dead, confirmed dead, for now. Also, two people

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arrested. And obviously we have been hearing, and it does seem that more

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Spanish media are backing this up, that one suspect has been shot in a

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shoot out with police in an area to the west of Barcelona city. So,

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still in Catalonia about a couple of kilometres to the west of the city.

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Potentially linked to the record was yellow that is what Spanish media

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are saying. They are basically saying that it could have been

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linked. There were reports earlier on another main avenue. Las Ramblas

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is a big avenue, but it is mainly a pedestrian area. Traffic flows down

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the small side roads down the side of the big Avenue. Diagonal is a

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much more kind of traffic through fear, a big, big avenue. On that

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avenue earlier there were reports that a police officer had been run

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down. Spanish media are linking that policeman being run down by what

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they are saying is a car who broke through point of control. Catalan

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police, once this started happening, they were throwing up roadblocks all

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over the place trying to control the flow of people and get the city into

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lockdown. And then they are saying that this car broke through a

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control, according to a Catalan newspaper that is a pretty

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trustworthy source, although this is an evolving situation so some of

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these details could end up being wrong, but at the moment they and

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other Spanish media are backing them up and saying that there was a shoot

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out in this area linked to the policeman being run down in the

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centre of Barcelona, and a shoot out just outside of the city, one

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suspect that. One suspect dead and two arrests. We have just had

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another update to say that the figure is now 12 dead. And we said

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50 injured. I heard 12 in the press conference on Spanish radio. That's

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a bit confusing. It is an evolving situation. People are being treated

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on the ground as well. They were saying 13, I heard that on Spanish

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radio but I wasn't sure that I heard it correctly. I heard them saying

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Paul Doswell. It seems that the figures are changing. It is a really

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shocking incident -- I heard them saying 12 as well. Police are

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following Leeds. We have had great MERS from the Royal household in

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Spain. There is a statement coming out from them -- we have heard from

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rural household in Spain. Mariano Rajoy, the Spanish Prime Minister,

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he said that terrorists will never defeat a country that loves freedom

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against barbarity. At 12pm tomorrow, this was coming out of the press

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conference in Placa de Catalunya, one of the main squares in

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Barcelona, almost an Las Ramblas, there will be one minute's silence

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at 12pm tomorrow. And the Mayoress of Barcelona was talking about that.

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She was coming out and saying, look, you know, Barcelona, we are proud of

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our city, it is a diverse place and a peaceful place, normally. It is

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proud of diversity and democracy. She said they are trying to spread

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hate, and those people who carried out this terrible attack will not

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succeed. Tom, keep listening, the across the developing situation.

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Thank you very much. Just to let you know, we are going to keep you right

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up to date with all of the stories breaking from Barcelona in the

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security operation and we are keeping on top of the casualty list.

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Obviously that is changing. Going to get you some other news. In the US,

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the fallout from the violence in Charlottesville continues. A tweet

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sent by President Trump today rather rubs salt in the wounds reopened by

:23:47.:23:53.

the deaths and injuries in Virginia at the weekend. It is sad to see the

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history and Codjo of our great country being ripped apart with the

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removal of our beautiful statues and monuments. He was referring to the

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age old debate over relics of the proslavery southern confederacy, the

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side that was of course defeated in America's Civil War. That is what

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started the trouble in Charl is full. There was an organised protest

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at the weekend against the removal of this statute of a Confederate

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general. There are dozens more such monuments around the country. There

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is a map in the New York Times today which is interesting. This shows

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just some of the places where you can see these monuments. The marked

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in red are where statues and monuments have been removed from

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public grounds. The marks in great where they are expected to be taken

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down. You can see just what a big national story this is. Let's bring

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up Anthony Zurcher in Washington for us is ever hear an outside schools.

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Donald Trump is a very defiant wit. -- Donald Trump said a very defiant

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wit and it seems like he is spoiling for this fight. He wants this debate

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to be overcome by Fritz was that she is. A poll came out earlier today

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showing that 60% of Americans actually don't mind having this that

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use bad, the smaller minority want them removed -- by statues there. If

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Donald Trump can change the nature of this debate into whether or not

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that use can be on public land, I think that as a fight they are

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willing to have -- whether or not that use. It indicates that Donald

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Trump is coming down with both feet in favour of what the people, the

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white nationalists were marching for on Saturday, which coming just a few

:25:31.:25:33.

days after the violence in Charlottesville is pretty

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remarkable. Anthony Zurcher, thank you for that quick update. I should

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say that we are going to keep you well up-to-date with what is

:25:43.:25:45.

happening in Barcelona. The next edition of Outside Source begins in

:25:46.:25:49.

just the few minutes. Tuesday with us, we'll keep you right up to date

:25:50.:25:53.

and might's moving news story. -- do stay with us.

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Good evening. I know that some may be travelling to the United States

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imminently to witness the solar eclipse on Sunday. Just bear in mind

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there is some poor weather around at the moment, particularly. And

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