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and living in temporary State care. Less than 5% of them will be placed | :00:03. | :00:09. | |
for adoption this year. Do you know how long it's been? Yeah. How long? | :00:09. | :00:14. | |
Since I was a baby. Children wait years for the State to find them a | :00:14. | :00:17. | |
new family. Now, the Government wants it to take less than 12 | :00:17. | :00:23. | |
months. Why does it take so long? Lawyers, social workers and judges | :00:24. | :00:27. | |
think they are protecting the young people. They are not. They are | :00:27. | :00:33. | |
actually severely damaging them. Conner is nearly five. He has been | :00:33. | :00:39. | |
in care since birth. Social workers think they've finally found him a | :00:39. | :00:44. | |
permanent home. He's going to become my fifth child. I love you | :00:44. | :00:49. | |
so much, with all my heart. birth mum is doing everything she | :00:49. | :00:54. | |
can to get Conner back. Everyone deserves a second chance. I've | :00:54. | :01:01. | |
changed now. Everyone changes. Katie and Chloe are six and nine. | :01:01. | :01:05. | |
Social workers are worried they are getting too old to be adopted. | :01:05. | :01:10. | |
Still working hard and looking for mummies and daddies. No news yet. | :01:10. | :01:13. | |
Do you ask people? Just a few who I think might be the right ones for | :01:13. | :01:19. | |
you. 10-year-old Kieran and his sisters were placed for adoption, | :01:19. | :01:24. | |
but it's broken down. Now they are back in foster care. I would like | :01:24. | :01:29. | |
to get adopted again. To see what it's like again. It could happen | :01:29. | :01:38. | |
twice. What is it like for children waiting and waiting to be adopted? | :01:38. | :01:43. | |
Do you know what adoption is? you go to one house and another | :01:43. | :01:47. | |
house and another house and then you live there. Then it turns into | :01:47. | :01:57. | |
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The average age of a child being adopted is three years and ten | :02:02. | :02:08. | |
months. Now aged six and nine, Katie and Chloe are still waiting | :02:08. | :02:13. | |
for a family. They were separated from their seven-year-old sister, | :02:13. | :02:19. | |
Sophie, two years ago. She is already been adopted. -- she's | :02:19. | :02:23. | |
already been adopted How dad went in prison and our mum couldn't look | :02:23. | :02:28. | |
after us. Then we had to move to Elaine's then she couldn't look | :02:28. | :02:33. | |
after all three of us. Then we have to move to Corrine's and then she | :02:33. | :02:41. | |
wanted to go to work in the night. Then we moved to DI's. Katie lives | :02:41. | :02:46. | |
with me and Sophie lives with her new mum. Our sister was separated | :02:46. | :02:54. | |
and we might have to be separated. I want me and Sophie and Chloe to | :02:54. | :03:04. | |
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live together. Sisters live together. Next question, please. | :03:13. | :03:17. | |
Coventry's adoption team have been looking for a new mum and dad for | :03:17. | :03:21. | |
Katie and Chloe for over two-and-a- half years. Social workers Rachel, | :03:21. | :03:27. | |
has just taken over the case. think we have to admit there has | :03:27. | :03:32. | |
been some drift. Drift means delay. It's delay for the children. I | :03:32. | :03:36. | |
think we sometimes think, oh, well, you know, it can wait a few days, | :03:36. | :03:41. | |
that phone call, or that visit, because we are all so busy. Also, | :03:41. | :03:47. | |
it's not only in social care. It's in the courts. Weeks go by, months | :03:47. | :03:53. | |
go by. And in a child's world that makes a huge difference. Chloe is | :03:53. | :04:03. | |
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nearly ten. Time is ticking on. is not to laugh at me when I fall | :04:07. | :04:14. | |
over? Everyone. Katie and Chloe live with Di. She has fostered 114 | :04:15. | :04:21. | |
children. Many were successfully adopted. 15 years ago she adopted | :04:21. | :04:27. | |
two of her own. It has changed greatly since I adopted my two | :04:27. | :04:33. | |
girls. It is getting better. I just get frustrated that everything | :04:33. | :04:40. | |
takes so long. I know that all these lawyers and social workers | :04:40. | :04:45. | |
and judges in court are thinking they are protecting the young | :04:45. | :04:50. | |
people, but they're not. They are actually severely damaging them. | :04:50. | :04:54. | |
The older Katie and Chloe get, the less the chance of their being | :04:54. | :05:03. | |
adopted. Kaich eland Di regularly meet the -- kaich eland Di | :05:03. | :05:07. | |
regularly meet the family -- Rachel and Di regularly meet the family | :05:07. | :05:11. | |
finding team to go through a check list. In the last two years 16 | :05:11. | :05:15. | |
families were considered. None worked out. I was a bit cautious | :05:15. | :05:19. | |
about who exactly was going to be getting them ready in the morning | :05:19. | :05:23. | |
and out for school. I think for these girls it needs to be a woman. | :05:23. | :05:27. | |
That's what they are used to. I think they would struggle if it was | :05:27. | :05:33. | |
a male. Background of parents, birth. Is there any learning | :05:33. | :05:43. | |
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disability? Yes. It's in the permanence report. A family with | :05:43. | :05:47. | |
animals is very important to the girls in the future. That's their | :05:47. | :05:53. | |
top wish list thing. They are desperate to have their own dog. | :05:53. | :05:59. | |
wouldn't want to rule out families at this stage who haven't got pets. | :05:59. | :06:06. | |
We would talk about it. What does Rachel do? She tries to get us a | :06:06. | :06:12. | |
mummy and daddy. Do you think she'll find one? Why not? Because | :06:12. | :06:17. | |
it's going to take ages. Do you know how long it's been? Yes. | :06:17. | :06:25. | |
long? Since I was a baby. Like most children waiting for adoption, | :06:25. | :06:31. | |
Katie and Chloe were removed from their parents. Since the baby B | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
scandal 40% more children have been re-- Baby P scandal, 40% more | :06:35. | :06:39. | |
children have been removed, but there has been no increase in the | :06:39. | :06:43. | |
number of professionals to deal with them. It's a major source of | :06:43. | :06:49. | |
delay. Are you all right to come and let me in. Today, social worker, | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
Sarah, visits David and Kirsty. Their children have been removed | :06:52. | :07:02. | |
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and are about to be placed for adoption. They were taken into care | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
because of difficulties in their relationship. It was boardering on | :07:07. | :07:11. | |
violence between the two of them. Also, they had difficulties | :07:11. | :07:15. | |
understanding what a child needs to be safe and fed and just basic | :07:15. | :07:20. | |
childcare needs really. David and Kirsty have seen their kids every | :07:20. | :07:24. | |
month. Now that Coventry's found adoptive parents for them, they | :07:24. | :07:30. | |
won't be allowed to any more. Sarah helps them plan how they'll say | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
goodbye. Did you have a chat about what you might want to do for that | :07:35. | :07:41. | |
contact? I want to see them on the last day. I don't want them to see | :07:42. | :07:46. | |
me upset. I think we can go in the room and do painting and maybe like | :07:46. | :07:51. | |
hand prints and keep the pictures and things and then the carer will | :07:51. | :07:56. | |
come and pick them up. I want to make this a really - I know it's | :07:57. | :08:00. | |
not going to be positive - but the most positive experience, so you | :08:00. | :08:05. | |
have a really nice memory of being together. I want to try to keep it | :08:05. | :08:15. | |
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as happy for everyone as we possibly can. A lot of birth | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
parents don't turn up for a final goodbye, because it's a kick in the | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
teeth. You can see why, because you've taken their children off | :08:22. | :08:32. | |
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Here they are. It's David and Kirsty's last chance to see their | :08:39. | :08:44. | |
children, aged two and three. The meeting will last two hours. After | :08:44. | :08:52. | |
that, they are unlikely to see them again until they are adults. Do you | :08:52. | :08:58. | |
want to do some painting for mummy and daddy? This is for the birth | :08:59. | :09:01. | |
parents as much for the children and it doesn't matter what has | :09:01. | :09:04. | |
happened in the past. What they are about to experience is probably the | :09:04. | :09:14. | |
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worst thing they could ever experience in their life. First | :09:15. | :09:25. | |
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time I heard her shout mummy. Where is it going? Mummy! That's what | :09:27. | :09:36. | |
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you've got, Hello Kitty. Press that button there. You did it that time! | :09:44. | :09:48. | |
Who's this? The foster carerers arrive to collect the children. | :09:48. | :09:52. | |
They have them another month before the children meet their new parents. | :09:52. | :09:56. | |
Have you had fun? Shall we get your bags? Are we going to say goodbye | :09:56. | :10:02. | |
to mummy and daddy and give kisses and cuddles? Go and give mummy a | :10:02. | :10:12. | |
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kiss. Good girl. Go and give daddy a kiss. Give me a big cuddle before | :10:14. | :10:23. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 40 seconds | :10:24. | :11:04. | |
Potentially it's the last time David and Kirsty will see their | :11:04. | :11:08. | |
children. Obviously, when they are older, if they make a decision that | :11:08. | :11:14. | |
they want to go and trace their birth family, then they can do that. | :11:14. | :11:24. | |
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Or they might just think, "I don't Coner was removed at birth and | :11:41. | :11:45. | |
fostered four years ago. At one- and-a-half he was placed for | :11:45. | :11:52. | |
adoption at short notice. His name is Mr Happy. He's there forever. | :11:52. | :11:58. | |
After just two turbulent weeks, Coner was returned to foster care. | :11:58. | :12:03. | |
He now lives with the Wincotts. The same foster family who cared for | :12:03. | :12:08. | |
Coner before he was placed for adoption. He's lived with them | :12:08. | :12:14. | |
virtually his whole life. I had forgotten how small they are. Look. | :12:14. | :12:22. | |
That's Coner's first shoes. Do you remember this? Ah. Lovely. A little | :12:22. | :12:28. | |
photograph of JJ and Chrissie and we put it on a teddy when Coner was | :12:28. | :12:34. | |
adopted to take with him to cuddle in his bed. Coner has two teenage | :12:34. | :12:41. | |
foster sisters, Jade and Chrissie. Everyone treats him like he's part | :12:41. | :12:45. | |
of the family and even though he understands that my mum didn't give | :12:45. | :12:49. | |
birth to him, like, as much as he can understand, because he's only | :12:49. | :12:59. | |
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four, but I love him like he's my brother anyway. Who is singing now? | :13:01. | :13:09. | |
Why did you do that? Sorry. I used to help my mum when Coner was a | :13:10. | :13:14. | |
baby. I was only 12 and I was a baby fan and I used to love him. He | :13:14. | :13:18. | |
was so cute. Then he left when he was one-and-a-half and that's when | :13:18. | :13:23. | |
I was really upset. It was a really horrible time. I don't ever want to | :13:23. | :13:31. | |
feel like that again. Since Coner's adoption breakdown, Coventry has | :13:31. | :13:37. | |
been unable to find him another permanent home. Though foster | :13:37. | :13:42. | |
carers the Wincotts have now decided they want to adopt him. | :13:42. | :13:47. | |
This is the hard copy letter to notify our intentions to adopt | :13:47. | :13:57. | |
Coner. We as a family have decided to formally notify you of our | :13:57. | :14:02. | |
intense -- intention to adopt Coner. We feel that this course of action | :14:02. | :14:12. | |
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would be in his best interests. Very exciting! For Coner, this | :14:22. | :14:26. | |
could mean he could finally have a permanent family. But Coner also | :14:27. | :14:34. | |
has a birth mum, Kerry. Though he barely knows she exists. Kerry | :14:34. | :14:39. | |
hasn't given up hope. She feels her learning difficulties shouldn't | :14:39. | :14:49. | |
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Kerry left the abusive relationship, 3 months after Conner was removed. | :15:02. | :15:04. | |
But after further assessments social services decided she was | :15:04. | :15:14. | |
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unable to parent Conner on her own. Just because you go to a learning | :15:16. | :15:22. | |
difficulty school, you can still care for a child. My friends have | :15:22. | :15:29. | |
all got their kids. They are doing all right. Kerry now has a younger | :15:29. | :15:32. | |
son Logan. Coventry Social Services have allowed her to keep him, | :15:32. | :15:35. | |
because for the past for 4 years she's been in a stable and | :15:35. | :15:44. | |
supportive relationship with Logans father. When we found that Kerry | :15:44. | :15:48. | |
was pregnant, we had a choice whether to tell social services or | :15:48. | :15:53. | |
just do a runner. We decided after a couple of days we would tell | :15:53. | :16:00. | |
social services. They said, you're honest, we will help you to keep | :16:01. | :16:04. | |
him home. Because of Kerry's learning difficulties social | :16:04. | :16:11. | |
services still monitor the family regularly. She has got mild | :16:11. | :16:15. | |
learning difficulties but that is only reading and spelling. She is | :16:16. | :16:21. | |
all right at writing. I have always believed Kerry can be a mum. If I | :16:21. | :16:27. | |
didn't, we would not have Logan. Since Kerry's been allowed to keep | :16:27. | :16:35. | |
Logan she wants to see if she can get Conner back. Maybe I will get | :16:35. | :16:45. | |
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Conner. I hope I do. I did say with Logan I would be a better mum. | :16:46. | :16:56. | |
Social Services have other ideas about Conner's future. Dear Kerry, | :16:56. | :17:02. | |
I wish to update you on Conner. I want to tell you about the adoption | :17:02. | :17:09. | |
plan for him as we have made a decision about his adoption. | :17:09. | :17:19. | |
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Look. That's what they want, isn't it? I will fight them back. I will | :17:19. | :17:25. | |
see a solicitor tomorrow. It is stupid, really. They should have | :17:25. | :17:30. | |
just gave me the chance. 9 out of 10 birth parents contest the | :17:30. | :17:35. | |
adoption of their children. It's a frequent cause of delay. If Kerry | :17:35. | :17:45. | |
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has a strong case, she may be able Where should I start, really? | :17:53. | :17:55. | |
year-old Kieran was placed for adoption with his sisters three | :17:55. | :18:05. | |
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years ago. 138 books in my room for. Have you | :18:11. | :18:18. | |
read all of them? Not all of them. But two weeks ago, the adoption | :18:18. | :18:22. | |
broke down. Kieran and his sisters also called Katie and Chloe are | :18:22. | :18:29. | |
back in temporary foster care. They were going to adopt us. I would | :18:29. | :18:34. | |
like to get adopted again and see what it is like again. It could | :18:34. | :18:38. | |
happen twice. Kieran and his sisters are now living with foster | :18:38. | :18:41. | |
carers Mandy and Andy but it's uncertain how long they'll be | :18:41. | :18:46. | |
allowed to stay. The placement is only a stop gap whilst social | :18:46. | :18:52. | |
services decide what to do with them. | :18:52. | :18:59. | |
Do you remember how many placements you have had? I went into emergency | :18:59. | :19:09. | |
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foster care. And Pam who has a foster carer as well. And then | :19:10. | :19:19. | |
BLEEP and then here. Are you all right? Yes. You can tell me if you | :19:19. | :19:29. | |
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want to stop. What does that one say? Huggable like this. Frequent | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
moves mean the children are constantly dealing with loss. | :19:37. | :19:39. | |
Kieran, Katie and Chloe have not only lost their birth family, | :19:39. | :19:43. | |
they've just lost the new family they were promised as well. Social | :19:43. | :19:51. | |
workers explain what's happened to them through their life story book. | :19:51. | :19:56. | |
We are going to get a few laughs here because you were only little. | :19:56. | :20:01. | |
We have baby photos. Rachel has to cover more ground with Kieran, he's | :20:01. | :20:10. | |
only been seen his book once in the last three years. This is about | :20:10. | :20:14. | |
tummy mammies. You left hospital with your mum, Claire. Andy went to | :20:14. | :20:21. | |
live with her mum and dad, your nan and granddad. Do you remember them? | :20:21. | :20:28. | |
No. They are your grandparents. At that point, they wanted to look | :20:28. | :20:31. | |
after you but they thought it would not be fair to just keep you and | :20:31. | :20:40. | |
not your sisters and brothers. It sounds as if your birth mum, Claire, | :20:40. | :20:47. | |
was struggling a bit. This is your little sister, isn't it? Her foster | :20:47. | :20:52. | |
carer decided she was going to adopt her. So the foster carer has | :20:52. | :20:58. | |
adopted her? The foster carer that she lived with adopted her, yes. | :20:58. | :21:04. | |
She did not have to change houses? She did not have to change houses, | :21:04. | :21:08. | |
no. Do you think that would be easier? You would not have to pack | :21:08. | :21:12. | |
your bag. You would not have to pack your bag or say goodbye if | :21:12. | :21:19. | |
you're foster carer adopted you. It is hard, isn't it? Yes, it is hard. | :21:19. | :21:24. | |
When you lose something, it makes you sad, doesn't it. Especially | :21:24. | :21:32. | |
when you lose people. It is hard. You have been so brave, haven't | :21:32. | :21:39. | |
you? You are making me now -- you are making me cry now. I'm silly | :21:39. | :21:47. | |
Now their adoption has broken down, Rachel meets with the children's | :21:47. | :21:49. | |
foster carers, teachers and independent reviewing officer to | :21:49. | :21:59. | |
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discuss what's best for them. we are in the dilemma of what to do. | :22:00. | :22:07. | |
Are we going to look at more foster carers or adoption. At this point, | :22:07. | :22:12. | |
I don't know whether the children are able to do that. The plan is | :22:12. | :22:18. | |
adoption. That has not changed. Within that, we have got to get the | :22:18. | :22:23. | |
children ready again. A Yes. could not quite believe that three | :22:23. | :22:27. | |
years down the line they could say I don't want them any more. I could | :22:27. | :22:32. | |
understand it after six weeks, when your life is turned upside down. | :22:32. | :22:37. | |
Emotionally, this is terrible, I cannot do this any more. But after | :22:37. | :22:42. | |
three years, I was gobsmacked by it. No one knows how many adoptions | :22:42. | :22:47. | |
break down. Almost no records of the numbers are kept, nor the | :22:47. | :22:50. | |
reasons why the children are returned. But state support for | :22:50. | :23:00. | |
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adopters lasts far less than for foster carers. It is dreadful for | :23:01. | :23:08. | |
everybody. Absolutely awful. It is difficult for the children, | :23:08. | :23:12. | |
difficult for the adopters, difficult for the workers involved, | :23:12. | :23:20. | |
as we are about to see, difficult for birth parents as well. Clare is | :23:21. | :23:27. | |
Kieran, Katie and Chloe's birth mum. She hasn't seen them for four years. | :23:27. | :23:29. | |
She's had three other children removed but they're successfully | :23:29. | :23:35. | |
adopted. Like Conner's birth mum, Clare also has learning | :23:35. | :23:45. | |
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difficulties. It will be six years December when I lost them. Chloe is | :23:48. | :23:54. | |
six and I have not seen her since probably her first birthday. I | :23:54. | :24:04. | |
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don't think I heard her say her first words. I have come today | :24:06. | :24:12. | |
because I need to update you about Kieran, Katie and Chloe. You know I | :24:12. | :24:16. | |
explained in December that the doctors had not put the order in | :24:16. | :24:20. | |
Andy went to get some legal advice, they decided a few weeks ago that | :24:20. | :24:28. | |
they were not going to adopt. Which meant that, obviously, they were | :24:28. | :24:38. | |
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not going to keep the kids. They could not stay there. They were not | :24:40. | :24:45. | |
going to adopt them and your kids deserve a family life, don't they, | :24:45. | :24:50. | |
wherever that might be. But on the other hand, it means I can share | :24:50. | :24:58. | |
things with you which I couldn't when they were placed for adoption. | :24:58. | :25:08. | |
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Oh, God. Oh, my God. That is about five weeks ago. Kieran. Look at him. | :25:09. | :25:14. | |
I assumed they had already been adopted and I said my final goodbye. | :25:14. | :25:21. | |
That is as far as I knew. And then I have found that they have gone | :25:21. | :25:27. | |
back into foster care after so many years. | :25:27. | :25:34. | |
What is next for you? Hopefully I want to have contact with the three | :25:34. | :25:40. | |
older kids, get that planned again and go back to court and get my | :25:40. | :25:49. | |
three older kids back where they should be. Each day a child's in | :25:49. | :25:56. | |
foster care costs the state on average �150. There are 65,000 in | :25:56. | :26:02. | |
care in England alone. Rachel is still looking for new parents for | :26:02. | :26:12. | |
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Katie and Chloe. It's been three years. Still working hard looking | :26:12. | :26:17. | |
for mummies and daddies. No leak news yet but things are happening. | :26:17. | :26:20. | |
Don't think I have forgotten because I have not. I have been | :26:21. | :26:25. | |
busy looking. It has to be the right family, doesn't it? What kind | :26:25. | :26:33. | |
of family? You tell me what kind of family you and Chloe should have. | :26:33. | :26:38. | |
dog like Ben. There is Ben over there. Do we need a mummy and a | :26:38. | :26:46. | |
daddy? Not a daddy. Not necessarily a daddy. We have got one. You have | :26:46. | :26:51. | |
got one already but you can have two daddies. How come we can't see | :26:52. | :26:59. | |
our mum? Well, because a long, long time ago, she thought it would be | :26:59. | :27:05. | |
best for you if she thought she didn't come any more. That is sad. | :27:06. | :27:12. | |
Why didn't she come? Because it used to upset her and it upset you. | :27:12. | :27:17. | |
When are we going? As soon as I find the right family. Do you ask | :27:17. | :27:23. | |
people? Well, you know those lovely photographs we had taken of you, | :27:23. | :27:27. | |
they are seen by people who are waiting to be mummies and daddies. | :27:27. | :27:31. | |
Not loads and loads of people, just a few who why think would be the | :27:31. | :27:39. | |
right ones for you. I think the children are more involved now. I'm | :27:39. | :27:43. | |
not necessarily sure that is a good thing. When social workers say to | :27:44. | :27:48. | |
the goals we are looking and then the girls here nothing else, they | :27:48. | :27:53. | |
just feel -- are they just have another wave of rejection which did | :27:53. | :27:57. | |
not happen in the past. The children were not told until there | :27:57. | :28:02. | |
had been matched with a family. Today Rachel's going to visit | :28:02. | :28:06. | |
prospective adopters who she thinks are a good match. The girls don't | :28:06. | :28:14. | |
know she's visiting them. They are married. They have got an allotment. | :28:14. | :28:20. | |
The woman is part of a string Quartet. Claire EU it is doing | :28:20. | :28:26. | |
handbell ringing at school currently -- Claire we is doing | :28:26. | :28:32. | |
handbell ringing at school. She has a growing interest in music. The | :28:32. | :28:36. | |
one thing on the girls wish-list which they have not got is a dog | :28:36. | :28:41. | |
but I think we can maybe talk about the possibility of pets in the | :28:41. | :28:51. | |
future. It is exciting because Katie and Chloe have waited a long | :28:51. | :28:58. | |
time for the day when we find the right mum and dad. It is exciting! | :28:59. | :29:04. | |
Go right at the roundabout, 5th exit. Turn right then you have | :29:04. | :29:14. | |
:29:14. | :29:14. | ||
reached your destination. What a nice little cul-de-sac. If I am | :29:14. | :29:19. | |
right, it is the one with the sunflowers in the garden. A very | :29:19. | :29:26. | |
pretty front garden. I can't wait now to go and meet them. This is | :29:26. | :29:29. | |
only the 5th set of potential adopters Coventry has visited in | :29:29. | :29:34. | |
person for Katie and Chloe. Rachel will judge whether they can meet | :29:34. | :29:38. | |
the girls' needs. But the couple will also have to decide if they | :29:38. | :29:48. | |
:29:48. | :29:57. | ||
Well, I've just spent a good couple of hours with the prospective | :29:57. | :30:01. | |
adopters and they are lovely. Lovely, lovely people. Loads of | :30:01. | :30:06. | |
positives. I'm very pleased. I think this could be the family for | :30:06. | :30:12. | |
the girls. I really do. Although Rachel is keen on the couple, | :30:12. | :30:19. | |
they've turned down other children in the past. They may have some | :30:19. | :30:25. | |
reservations. Because, Katie and Chloe have had a difficult | :30:25. | :30:33. | |
childhood. They have suffered neglect. Yeah, there's always the | :30:33. | :30:37. | |
possibility that these people might actually think maybe these aren't | :30:37. | :30:46. | |
the girls for us. At every stage of the process prospective adopters | :30:46. | :30:53. | |
can change their minds. Even when children have lived with their new | :30:53. | :31:03. | |
parents, their formal adoption is not guaranteed. We are going off to | :31:03. | :31:10. | |
McDonald's. It's Wednesday. I don't know what McDonald's is. Today, his | :31:10. | :31:15. | |
social worker is coming round to talk to him about his adoption | :31:15. | :31:22. | |
breakdown. None of us know whether Coner remembers any of it. It won't | :31:23. | :31:28. | |
be done in great big detail. It will just be that we tried to look | :31:28. | :31:33. | |
for a family for you, the right family for you and we thought we | :31:33. | :31:43. | |
had got them and they weren't. Then, after, she will be telling him that | :31:43. | :31:47. | |
this time they are really sure that they've found the right family. | :31:47. | :31:54. | |
does Coner's story end? He's going to become my fifth child. He is | :31:54. | :32:01. | |
going to stay with us forever. Wherever we go, Coner will come too. | :32:01. | :32:05. | |
See you in a minute. Coner's social worker doesn't want to appear on | :32:05. | :32:12. | |
camera, but allows us to record the session. We can't do the wrong | :32:12. | :32:15. | |
family again. We were really worried that we need to find the | :32:15. | :32:23. | |
right family. Aren't you the right family now? Yes. Guess what we | :32:23. | :32:26. | |
decided? What? We decided you are with the right family and we are | :32:26. | :32:32. | |
not looking for a right family any more because Mick and Jade and | :32:32. | :32:36. | |
Chrissie and Sara are going to be the right family. I'm going to stay | :32:37. | :32:46. | |
here? I know. That's what we decided. I don't want to go to the | :32:46. | :32:56. | |
:32:56. | :33:00. | ||
judge. Do you want to go and tell dad what I told you? Yes. Dad, you | :33:00. | :33:09. | |
can stay here. That much. Forever? Are you staying here forever? | :33:09. | :33:16. | |
Brilliant. Can I have a cuddle. Coner, have you got news to tell | :33:16. | :33:26. | |
:33:26. | :33:27. | ||
Jade and Chrissie? I'm staying here. Are you staying here forever? | :33:27. | :33:37. | |
:33:37. | :33:40. | ||
Is thisy your sister? -- Chrissie your sister? Coner's birth mum, | :33:40. | :33:47. | |
Kerry, is going to her solicitor. She wants to see if she can stop | :33:47. | :33:51. | |
his adoption before it becomes official. The judge will have to | :33:51. | :33:57. | |
consider your prospect of success and what was best for Coner. One of | :33:57. | :34:01. | |
the things that the court has to take into account is the length of | :34:01. | :34:05. | |
time that Coner has been in his current placement. That's not your | :34:05. | :34:13. | |
fault. Coner is now five. Five in July. The plan that he be adopted | :34:13. | :34:17. | |
was not long after he was born. He's really been in limbo now for | :34:17. | :34:23. | |
quite some time. I haven't got a crystal ball and I can't tell you | :34:23. | :34:27. | |
what the judge is going to say, but you have to decide what to do. | :34:27. | :34:36. | |
going to apply against it. Kerry now has to wait for a court hearing. | :34:36. | :34:43. | |
The judge will decide if she has a strong enough case to oppose the | :34:43. | :34:51. | |
Wincotts and their application. Kieran and his sisters have been | :34:51. | :34:54. | |
back in temporary foster care for four months. Rachel has to make a | :34:54. | :35:01. | |
difficult decision about their future. Andy and Mandy are vastly | :35:01. | :35:03. | |
experienced and they are struggling with the three together at the | :35:03. | :35:09. | |
moment. They've been on placement for seven years and they are not | :35:09. | :35:13. | |
adopted. Realistically is it likely that there would be other adopters. | :35:13. | :35:17. | |
On the evidence we have seen, there would just be too much for most | :35:17. | :35:25. | |
people. It's always my aim to get them adopted and keep them together, | :35:25. | :35:30. | |
but it just seems terribly alien to me, but in their scenario, I just | :35:30. | :35:34. | |
see their success as being each one on their own. I know enough about | :35:34. | :35:41. | |
them to either agree or disagree with Melanie. I do. I don't mind. | :35:41. | :35:46. | |
Let's stop wasting time. We need to get on. I need to get to panel. | :35:46. | :35:50. | |
need to make a decision on what you know already. OK. Let's make | :35:50. | :35:58. | |
recommendations then. I'm struggling with the notion of | :35:58. | :36:04. | |
possibly splitting the children. I really am. But obviously I have to | :36:04. | :36:10. | |
do my job. I have to do what is best for the children and sometimes | :36:10. | :36:14. | |
people may not understand why we have to do some of the things that | :36:14. | :36:21. | |
we do do. Don't pull my head. social workers separate brothers | :36:21. | :36:24. | |
and sisters it doesn't necessarily mean they won't seen each other | :36:24. | :36:33. | |
again. The other Katie and Chloe were separated from their sister | :36:33. | :36:38. | |
Sophie, two years ago, but still see her in school holidays. Are you | :36:38. | :36:43. | |
looking forward to seeing Sophie, I am? Yep. It's a difficult decision, | :36:43. | :36:46. | |
but sometimes it's for the best. When you can actually see you've | :36:46. | :36:50. | |
made the right decision and see a child for instance a couple of | :36:50. | :36:54. | |
years on, who is absolutely put down roots and they are in touch | :36:54. | :37:02. | |
with their siblings and it's lovely. Sophie lives with her adoptive mum, | :37:02. | :37:08. | |
Alison, 100 miles away. We found 60 pence on the floor in my car. 20 | :37:08. | :37:12. | |
pence each. It's strange. It's a strange situation obviously, | :37:12. | :37:18. | |
because they are my daughter's sisters and you do begin to feel a | :37:19. | :37:24. | |
sort of real family bond. It started very early on. I think it's | :37:24. | :37:27. | |
really grown. It's only been just over a year, but I feel very | :37:27. | :37:31. | |
connected to testimony actually. I feel very sort of rather protective | :37:31. | :37:41. | |
:37:41. | :37:44. | ||
of them. I have two special sisters called Chloe and Katie. What is it | :37:44. | :37:51. | |
like when you see them? Really excited. We go and play games. We | :37:51. | :38:01. | |
:38:01. | :38:02. | ||
always like messing around. We like screaming. | :38:02. | :38:06. | |
SREAMING They are so nice and I love them. | :38:06. | :38:10. | |
It's a different kind of family and I think it's what these kids are | :38:10. | :38:14. | |
very amazingly adaptable with. Kids do accept things more than adults, | :38:14. | :38:24. | |
:38:24. | :38:27. | ||
Kieran and the other Katie and Chloe are still waiting to find out | :38:27. | :38:31. | |
where they are going to live. They can't go back to their birth mum, | :38:31. | :38:35. | |
Claire, as she doesn't have a permanent home, but they do want to | :38:35. | :38:40. | |
see her again. I need to re- introduce you as a person to Chloe, | :38:40. | :38:45. | |
so she understands that you are her birth mummy and she came out of | :38:45. | :38:48. | |
your mummy, not the adopter's tummy, because she was too young to | :38:48. | :38:53. | |
understand. Before Claire sees her children again, Rachel wants her to | :38:53. | :39:03. | |
:39:03. | :39:04. | ||
write to them first. I think I would put, "I was sad." Say, "I was | :39:04. | :39:12. | |
sad that you had to leave your adopters." Then, "But I know you | :39:12. | :39:22. | |
:39:22. | :39:36. | ||
are with lovely foster carers." Can I take a picture of you? You are a | :39:36. | :39:41. | |
really pretty girl. Nobody likes photographs of themselves, do they, | :39:41. | :39:50. | |
really? That's nice. One without glasses. One with glasses. Are you | :39:50. | :40:00. | |
:40:00. | :40:09. | ||
happy with that? Yeah. Thank you very much indeed. There is your | :40:09. | :40:14. | |
tummy mummy. That's mummy whose tummy you were in before you were | :40:15. | :40:24. | |
born. What's her name? Claire. Mummy Claire. That's the lady that | :40:24. | :40:33. | |
wrote you the letter. Rachel goes into more detail with Kieran as | :40:33. | :40:40. | |
he's older and remembers Claire more. On 20th February 2001 your | :40:40. | :40:45. | |
name was put on the Child Protection Register. Because, "My | :40:46. | :40:50. | |
birth mum was mixing with risky adults. Sometimes when money was | :40:50. | :40:56. | |
short we slept in the car. My birth dad offered very little support to | :40:56. | :41:01. | |
my birth mum and he abandoned the family on numerous occasions." Can | :41:01. | :41:06. | |
you tell me what that means? Just left them. "Our home was piled with | :41:06. | :41:10. | |
dirty dishes and clothes, soiled nappies and left-over food and | :41:10. | :41:15. | |
other rubbish lying around. There were also dangerous equipment left | :41:15. | :41:23. | |
within our reach. For example, fire lighters, screwdrivers and broken | :41:23. | :41:30. | |
glass ." So on 22nd December 2005... Three days before Christmas. Yeah. | :41:30. | :41:40. | |
How old were you? Five. You had to go to the police station. -- your | :41:40. | :41:45. | |
mum had to go to the police station. They were arrested? Yes. This isn't | :41:45. | :41:49. | |
unusual with grown-ups who don't keep their house clean and get the | :41:49. | :41:58. | |
food in and mix with risky adults. I regret what happened. If I could | :41:58. | :42:03. | |
turn back time I would. I really, really would. I know where I went | :42:03. | :42:13. | |
:42:13. | :42:15. | ||
wrong. That's in the past. If I could turn back time, I would. | :42:15. | :42:23. | |
Coner's fifth birthday. Kerry gets to write to him once a year. She | :42:23. | :42:33. | |
doesn't know if he gets her cards. Happy fifth birthday. I don't want | :42:33. | :42:38. | |
to put something that social workers won't like, so I have to | :42:38. | :42:47. | |
keep it settled. I want to put where I am, but I can't. I'm not | :42:47. | :42:54. | |
allowed to. It's to keep the social worker happy. Social services will | :42:54. | :42:57. | |
check that now, to see if I haven't put something that I shouldn't have | :42:57. | :43:07. | |
:43:07. | :43:10. | ||
put in. # Happy birthday to you... # Coner | :43:10. | :43:14. | |
is spending his fifth birthday with the Wincotts. He has spent every | :43:14. | :43:19. | |
birthday with them since he was born. Coventry has now told the | :43:20. | :43:26. | |
Wincotts that keary is trying to -- keary is trying to stop the | :43:26. | :43:29. | |
adoption. -- Kerry is trying to stop the adoption. I said to mum, | :43:29. | :43:35. | |
it's obvious that he's going to be with us, because it would wreck his | :43:35. | :43:38. | |
life. I know it's his real mum, but he doesn't know her at all. It's | :43:38. | :43:46. | |
not like my mum is to him. You are powerless and your son has been | :43:46. | :43:49. | |
taken from you, just because of the person you are. I can't imagine | :43:49. | :43:53. | |
anything worse than that and the fact they are fighting to get their | :43:53. | :43:59. | |
son as much as they can, it's - I feel bad for them, but what's best | :43:59. | :44:03. | |
for Coner, it needs to be that he stays with us. It's not about them. | :44:03. | :44:09. | |
It's about Coner. It must be really hard for her. The mum's always had | :44:09. | :44:14. | |
the bond of like being in her stomach and everything. You can't | :44:14. | :44:22. | |
not love like your flesh and blood. But I just think that if she's like | :44:22. | :44:25. | |
a really good mum than she'll do what's best for Coner and not for | :44:25. | :44:35. | |
:44:35. | :44:45. | ||
her. The court will decide what is It's been two months since Rachel | :44:45. | :44:48. | |
visited Katie and Chloe's potential new parents. Rachel has invited | :44:48. | :44:53. | |
them to Coventry Adoption Services to meet Di. She will tell them what | :44:53. | :45:02. | |
it's like to live with the girls. It makes it feel real. I feel a | :45:02. | :45:05. | |
little nervous. If the couple decide to proceed, they are only | :45:05. | :45:12. | |
one step away from meeting Katie and Chloe. This is Di. She is the | :45:12. | :45:18. | |
girls' foster carer. My role is to bring it all to life. Just reading | :45:18. | :45:22. | |
it you don't get that. You need to speak to somebody who has lived | :45:22. | :45:25. | |
with these children and laughed with them and rolled on the floor | :45:25. | :45:29. | |
with them. Cooked cakes with them or whatever to really, really bring | :45:29. | :45:36. | |
them to life. Even though Di can't say anything to the girls, she has | :45:36. | :45:46. | |
:45:46. | :45:50. | ||
to make sure they are ready for a I took the girl shopping and I said | :45:50. | :45:56. | |
it was a new outfit for winter and she said she would rather save it | :45:56. | :46:03. | |
so she could wear it when she met her new family. That has all been | :46:03. | :46:08. | |
put away ready for when she is introduced. So, yes, she is | :46:08. | :46:12. | |
definitely ready. After four hours of discussing Katie and Chloe, the | :46:12. | :46:22. | |
:46:22. | :46:26. | ||
prospective adopters have made a decision. Very, very positive. Lots | :46:26. | :46:32. | |
of smiles and lots of laughter. A few tears but, yes, this is the | :46:32. | :46:37. | |
right family for these girls. So that is it. I just wish I could go | :46:37. | :46:42. | |
home and tell the girls but I have got to wait. What a fantastic | :46:42. | :46:49. | |
secret to be holding. What a fantastic secret. It is wonderful. | :46:49. | :46:53. | |
Katie and Chloe are getting closer to having a new mum and dad. But | :46:53. | :46:55. | |
the match still needs to be approved by Coventry's Adoption | :46:55. | :47:05. | |
:47:05. | :47:09. | ||
Coner is still waiting to find out if the Wincotts will be his | :47:09. | :47:15. | |
permanent family. Kerry is going to court to see if she can stop them | :47:15. | :47:24. | |
from taking the final step in becoming his legal parents. I hate | :47:24. | :47:34. | |
my her. Today could be her last chance. Are you not even ready yet? | :47:34. | :47:42. | |
No. Five minutes until the taxi comes. Five years. Five years I | :47:42. | :47:51. | |
have been waiting for this. What do you think is going to happen? | :47:51. | :47:59. | |
won't get him. I have got a feeling I won't get him. Jesus Christ, shut | :47:59. | :48:09. | |
:48:09. | :48:09. | ||
Apology for the loss of subtitles for 40 seconds | :48:09. | :49:02. | |
Coventry has told Saraina to stay at home and wait for a call. I can | :49:02. | :49:06. | |
understand why mum is contesting because I think if I was in her | :49:06. | :49:12. | |
shoes, it is that final plea that shows Coner when he is older that | :49:12. | :49:17. | |
she always loved him and that was never up for question that she has | :49:17. | :49:23. | |
always loved him and she is putting this final plea in to say, I tried. | :49:23. | :49:28. | |
I did try to get you back. I think he is very aware of what is | :49:28. | :49:36. | |
going on. Because, obviously, the social worker has told him. We have | :49:36. | :49:40. | |
all told him today that the wise judge is hopefully making the | :49:40. | :49:45. | |
decision that he will be able to to stay here for ever but we cannot | :49:45. | :49:50. | |
finish hour sentence without him shouting, I am staying here! As far | :49:50. | :49:55. | |
as I can workout, there have been in court for two hours and 10 | :49:55. | :50:00. | |
minutes. I don't know how long these things take but to me it | :50:00. | :50:10. | |
:50:10. | :50:20. | ||
You say. You are good at explaining. It went all right. Over the moon! I | :50:20. | :50:25. | |
am happy. It has been adjourned because social services did not | :50:25. | :50:30. | |
follow protocol for the adoption for Coner to be adopted by the | :50:30. | :50:35. | |
foster carers. They will probably still be looking after him until | :50:35. | :50:39. | |
the final adoption placement but I do not think they will be adopting | :50:39. | :50:46. | |
him. Now someone has to go and tell the Wincotts what happened today. | :50:46. | :50:50. | |
do feel sorry for Saraina because she has looked after him. You do | :50:50. | :51:00. | |
:51:00. | :51:10. | ||
have to feel sorry but not too much. Hello. It is. Oh, hello, Paul, any | :51:10. | :51:20. | |
:51:20. | :51:28. | ||
news? Right, OK. Not good news? Right. Right, OK. Right. How long | :51:28. | :51:36. | |
do you think that is going to take? OK. When do you think you will be | :51:36. | :51:45. | |
coming because he comes out of school at 3 o'clock. No comment it | :51:45. | :51:50. | |
is fine. Just get here as quick as you can because I am having my own | :51:50. | :52:00. | |
:52:00. | :52:00. | ||
personal nervous breakdown here. OK, lovely. Thanks, Paul. Goodbye. | :52:00. | :52:10. | |
:52:10. | :52:12. | ||
What? What happened? The court guardian later came to tell Coner | :52:12. | :52:19. | |
of the delay. It will be months before the judge makes a decision. | :52:20. | :52:23. | |
But for Kieran and his sisters the day has finally come when they'll | :52:23. | :52:32. | |
see their mum for the first time in four years. | :52:32. | :52:37. | |
Did you ever think you would see them come home from school? Never. | :52:37. | :52:42. | |
No way. I did not think that at all. I am going to give them the biggest | :52:42. | :52:52. | |
:52:52. | :53:05. | ||
hug and kiss of my life. I really Do the three older kids go to the | :53:05. | :53:10. | |
same school which they originally did with the adoptive family? | :53:10. | :53:20. | |
:53:20. | :53:26. | ||
It is pointless them moving to a You're not allergic to cats, are | :53:26. | :53:36. | |
:53:36. | :53:56. | ||
you? I forgot to ask you. They have Hello. This is clever. Hello, nice | :53:56. | :54:03. | |
to meet you. It is a long time since you have seen them. About | :54:03. | :54:07. | |
four years since I have seen them but six years since they first left | :54:08. | :54:13. | |
me. Clare waits at the house with Rachel, while foster dad Andy | :54:14. | :54:23. | |
:54:24. | :54:26. | ||
collects the children from school. Are you all right? A bit scared | :54:26. | :54:36. | |
:54:36. | :54:46. | ||
Oh here we go. That is Katie. I told you she couldn't wait to see | :54:46. | :54:56. | |
:54:56. | :54:58. | ||
you. Let me have your coffee. You will be fine. Hello. It is obvious | :54:58. | :55:08. | |
who is who. Isn't it? You are a bit lost foreword us all of you. Clare | :55:08. | :55:12. | |
and the kids have just half an hour together. Rachel is there to make | :55:12. | :55:22. | |
:55:22. | :55:31. | ||
Have a hug. This is a picture of May. The kids have collected | :55:31. | :55:40. | |
mementos from the past four years to share with Clare. You sent me a | :55:40. | :55:50. | |
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letter. That his school. That is from leavers Assembly. They give | :55:50. | :55:57. | |
out stickers for attendance and I got 99.5 %. That is really good. | :55:57. | :56:06. | |
What is your favourite subject? Science. Science? I remember that | :56:06. | :56:16. | |
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one. Beautiful princess. Lovely, We are going to finish up so Mandy | :56:30. | :56:40. | |
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can get your tea on and I will get I look forward to seeing you again | :56:52. | :57:01. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 40 seconds | :57:02. | :57:44. | |
Can you see over there, clearly? have got a really good view. | :57:44. | :57:54. | |
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had better come in and tell me a. We have got a new mummy and daddy. | :57:55. | :58:01. | |
Congratulations! They have two spare bedrooms but there is | :58:01. | :58:07. |