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This is Joseph Kony, one of the world's most wanted men. I am not

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guilty. I am not guilty. As one of the most prolific killers in

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history, Kony and his commanders are wanted for crimes against

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humanity. He is a psychopath and he has got multiple personality

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disorder. Said to have supernatural powers, he has ruined the lives of

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millions. All I thought was that I would lose my life. That would be

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the end of May. He turns children into curlers and ordered his

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commanders to rape schoolgirls. Are you proud of yourself? I am not

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proud. I am only disappointed with my life. Now he is hunted by the UN

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and thousands of African troops backed by the planet's most

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powerful military machine. advisers will continue their

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efforts to bring this mad man to justice and save lives. This is

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Joseph Kony. The black guy? And he is the target of a global campaign

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demanding that he be captured this year. If we succeed, we changed the

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course of human history. Tonight, Panorama joins the hunt for the

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leader of what Kony calls his Lord's Resistance Army, and asks

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why after 25 years of carnage, this notorious warlord is still at large.

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I cannot tell you if it will be tomorrow, in a month, but

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This is the frontline of the hunt for Joseph Kony. The jungle almost

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the size of France. After a global campaign clamouring for the capture

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of Kony this year, as an African journalist I want to know what is

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being done on the ground to bring to justice the man who has

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terrorised millions. I joined the Ugandan army unit hunting him in

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the jungles of the Central African Republic. Uganda is being backed by

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American special forces. But still Kony remains one step ahead. We are

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doing whatever it takes to make sure that we capture or kill Kony.

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Our last intelligence indicated that Joseph Kony is in the Central

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African Republic. Kony might be anywhere because we do not have any

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mechanism of tracking Kony himself. If Joseph Kony, the leader of the

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Lord's Resistance Army, the LRA, had been 20 ft in front of me, I

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would not have seen him. This is a real jungle. It is in the middle of

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nowhere. Searching for anyone here, particularly a man who has mastered

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the tactics of the bush, is like searching for a needle in a

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haystack. Do you have any information whether the LRA are

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around this area? Is that why you are going there? The LRA right now,

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we do not know their position. Vicky Barr rotating in the general

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area. One day we will come across the track. -- they keep rotating in

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the general area. This camp was abandoned by the LRA just two weeks

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earlier. This is the enemy defence. It was discovered after a rebel

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defector led the Ugandans here. This was the headquarters. The

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overall commander was clear. They avoid movement from their position.

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That is why they can hide themselves here for more than a

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month. It is estimated 50 to 60 of Kony's fighters lived here, plus

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women and children. This child was one of them. Adam, said by his

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mother to be Joseph Kony's five- year-old son. Abducted aged 13,

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Doreen Abango escaped just 10 days earlier. TRANSLATION: I saw that I

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was wasting my life so I took the opportunity to come back. I started

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walking at night with my child, moving in such a way I did not

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leave any tracks. A fire was found, I would be killed. -- if I was

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found. Doreen told me she had not seen Kony for five years. She is

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one of dozens of women that he is accused of raping. He takes women

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in terms. Women go to him in terms. That is the nature of war. As women

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we do not have the power to refuse. We are afraid and want to protect

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The Ugandans believe that Joseph Kony is in the Central African

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Republic, but the Lord's Resistance Army that he leads are thought to

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be constantly on the move between here, Sudan in the North, and the

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Democratic Republic of Congo, which continues to suffer at their hands.

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Here, terrified families have sought centuries in refugee camps

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since the LRA started attacking in 2008. I headed to the nearest camp.

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300 miles South East of the Ugandan position. The first people started

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coming in the month of March. people feel safe because delighted

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macro and Congolese army are based nearby. -- because the UN and

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Congolese army are based nearby. There are 10,000 people in camps.

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The terror that the LRA cause in this region is totally

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disproportionate to their numbers. The UN estimates there are only 100

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fighters left, but they continue to evade capture. They did not attack

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me but we ran because they killed people yes so we were afraid.

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you think you can go back home? until the raiding and the war is

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over. This is the worst thing that has ever happened to us and many of

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our belongings have been destroyed. Today almost half a million people

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remain displaced by the war. It is a fear creation tactic. People have

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got that fear. They have that Psycho thing in them. That is why

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TRANSLATION: The LRA kills. The LRA mutilates. The LRA mutilates. The

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LRA burns villages and public buildings. These people have had

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enough. We want Joseph Kony to leave this region. We want Joseph

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Kony to be arrested and for us to Kony's war in this region started

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only 300 miles away in Uganda in the late 1980s. Since then, the

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scale of atrocities has been apocalyptic. An estimated 100,000

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people have died in this conflict. At least 20,000 children have been

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abducted, many forced to be child soldiers or sex slaves. What

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exactly is Joseph Kony fighting for? Six years ago, after months of

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negotiation, the film crew were led deep into the jungle to find out.

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Surrounded by heavily armed fighters, this was to be the first

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and last time Kony gave a television interview. I am a

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freedom fighter who is fighting for freedom in Uganda. But I am not a

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terrorist. Kony denied murdering civilians and abducting children.

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found not guilty. I am not guilty. I am not guilty. And declaimed holy

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spirits were guiding him in his mission to overthrow the Ugandan

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Government. -- he claimed. Spirits will come to us. They come through

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me and they talk to the people, what to do. But if I am also

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fighting for the commandment of God, is that bad? It is not bad. I have

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had to go to a crime profiler, actually Scotland Yard, to try to

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understand this man that I have dealt with for a long time. Betty

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Bigombe is one of a long line of African leaders who tried and

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failed to talk Kony into making peace. His followers would say that

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he is extremely kind. He is extremely generous. And yet he

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would rape people, rip their tummy apart, or the killing in the most

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brutal manner. Who is this man? And the analysis, the report that came

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up, he is a psychopath. He has got a multiple personality disorder.

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find out more about Joseph Kony, I came to the place where he was born,

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Odek in northern Uganda. Here I found one of the last surviving

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members of his family, Gabriela Lakot, his older sister. This is

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the first time she had agreed to be interviewed. God has brought a

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curse on this family. This is our mother's lament. Kony has brought

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so much trouble on us, now everybody hates us. She was there

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when Joseph Kony came into this world. When my mother was giving

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birth, I came and supported her. As soon as Kony was born, he stood up

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on his two feet. Everyone was astonished and wondrous, saying

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this child is strange. This child is strange. When Kony reached his

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teens, he started hearing voices in his head. It seems to me that he

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had developed a mental problem. My father tried everything to help

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Kony, but in vain. Even a cow was sacrificed, but in vain.

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everyone in Odek believed that Kony was mentally ill. I found one of

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his old school friends, later to become one of the warlord's

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earliest disciples. The spirit had possessed Kony. That spirit, when

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it's time came to speak, it entered Kony and completely transformed its

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nature. These spirits would go on to haunt this region for decades.

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By 1986, Kony was a young man and many in Northern and Gander were

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rebelling against a new Government. -- northern Uganda. On this hill he

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would claim to hear the voices of spirits which his followers

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believed would predict the future. These voices would also later Mark

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Kony out as a leader of insurgents. People saw the potential and the

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possibility of a spirit that had possessed Kony helping them against

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a danger of death that they thought was coming to them. I am amongst

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the people that accepted. I am one of those. By the early 90s, the

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rebellion was over, but the profit did not put down his gun. Instead

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he turned it on his own people for abandoning the cause. Because of

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Kony and his Lord's Resistance Army was born. -- the cult of Kony.

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has been like a terrible fire. It has resulted in the last of many

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young people. I see the wrong in it and the pain associated with it. We

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A Ugandan Government camp created to protect local civilians from the

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Mayor was affected. They failed. -- from the LRA was affected. 301

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people were counted dead. Men, women and children. Slaughtered by

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Kony's troops in February, 2004. This woman was ordered to kill her

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husband. They asked me to cut his throat, but then a little child

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soldier told them not to us than our old lady to kill her husband.

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They took my husband and cut his throat while I watched. My child,

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his son, was also killed. Her son I think Kony was very conscious of

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what he was doing. I don't think the massacres that were committed

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by the LRA, they were the acts of individuals who are indisciplined

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but I think that they all came directly from his orders and I

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think he knew very well what he was ordering. Carlos Rodriguez was a

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priest at the time based the at the heart of where Kony was carrying

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out his massacres he listened in ands -- as the LRA

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leader talked on the radio to his troops. Sometimes he was very

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explicit in ordering massacres, laughing like a sadistic killer,

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saying, as he was laughing, that's very good, continue, you should

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kill even more, you should kill even elderly people, even children.

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Don't leave anybody alive. Industrial-scale killing, but Kony

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inflicted brutality on the living, too.

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Godfrey Okello - abducted aged ten. Ojok Patrick - abducted aged 14.

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Oriem Michael - abducted aged ten. Kony said it was war. If he sends

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you to fight, you have to fight. Much of the killing was carried out

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by child soldiers. Thousands and thousands of children were abducted

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by the LRA. Kony teaches, saying that all

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civilians have been trained. They have arrows to use on us. Civilians

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also use knives and all sorts of things to injure us, therefore, if

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we come across any civilians we mustn't allow them to survive

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because they are bad people. While young boys were forced to

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become killers, Kony also had plans for young girls.

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This was the dormitory where I was that night. Grace Acan was just 15

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years old when she was abducted along with 30 other schoolgirls

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from St Mary's convent, northern Ugandan in 1996. I thought that

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would be the end of my life because I have heard a lot about LRA.

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They're risky, they're dangerous, they can kill and when they get you

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that will be the end of you. girls were marched for two weeks

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north through the bush to an LRA camp in southern Sudan. There,

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Grace discovered her fate for the next eight years. The moment you

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begin your menstrual period, that's all. They will say now you are

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ready for a man. That's what they will do. It doesn't matter how old

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you are? It Doesn't matter. That's what they would do. Grace was

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forced to become a sex slave. She was repeatedly raped by this man,

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one of Kony's most senior commanders.

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These days, it's not hard to find Kenneth Banya, he lives just down

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the road from Grace. What I don't understand, why did

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Kony specifically give these girls to be raped by the older guys, the

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commanders, why? He was doing that because he wanted to maintain

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people in the bush, do you understand? He wanted to keep

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people in the bush, so that you don't think of other things.

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how do you think it is for youngsters like Grace who have gone

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through this without their permission? It is not only Grace

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alone, there are so many who are like Grace. I kept on thinking that

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now, how can I be given to such a man? It wasn't my choice. He was

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basically forcing you every week? If you say no, they beat you.

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that happen to you? I didn't want to be beaten with a panga because I

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saw with my eyes what it is to be beaten with a machete.

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Grace gave birth to two children, a son and a daughter, both fathered

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by Banya. Then, in July 2004, eight years

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after she was abducted, the Ugandan Army attacked the LRA camp where

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she was being held. The first bomb landed on my son, who was being

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carried by another girl, so they both died. I didn't see, but I was

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told. I didn't have a chance to see where his body was.

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Grace escaped with her daughter, Mercy, who is now nine years old.

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Her mother wants to put the past behind them. But is that possible?

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I wanted to know if the man who raped Grace showed any remorse.

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Why did you systematically rape a child like her, who was 15 years,

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over and over and over for years? Why did you do that? I did not rape

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Grace. In LRA, you are given by force, and the woman also she is

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forced. But Kenneth, if that was your child, 15 years old, somebody

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does that to her, how would you feel? I had no choice. No, you had

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a choice. I would be killed. It was a matter of either you die, or you

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agree and you live. Banya was captured in 2004 by the

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you goen Army. Despite his crimes, he was given an amnesty, and is now

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a free man. How many girls did you rape in the bush? I did not, only

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Grace and the other two. Only Grace and the other two. Yeah. Are you

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proud of yourself for what you did to those girls? I am not proud

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because if I was proud I would be talking proudly. I am only

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disappointed with my life. Kenneth Banya, have you forgiven

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him, will you forgive him? That is a very hard question. You know,

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forgiveness comes from the heart. I feel as if something has been taken

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out of me. Something valuable has been taken out of me.

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Back in the jungles of the central African Republic, the hunt for

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Joseph Kony continues. The noose seems to be tightening. A military

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offensive led by the Ugandan Army four years ago scattered his forces

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across the region. Now it's estimated there are only 450LRA

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fighters left. In May this year, just 60 miles

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from where we are, the Ugandans captured a senior LRA commander.

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This is his first television interview.

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The long length of time Kony and his people, including myself, has

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spent in the bush, and the hardship and experience we have gone through,

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is what has given Kony the knowledge and skills to survive in

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the bush up until now. For almost 20 years, Achellam, seen

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here, was one of Kony's right-hand men. Since his capture, he has

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given the Ugandans vital intelligence about LRA movements.

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Achellam is now calling for an end to the fighting. Many of my

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colleagues are still in the bush and they should come out. They must

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come out and there should be no more fighting. If Kony doesn't come

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out, let him remain alone in the bush.

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So why has Joseph Kony been allowed to wage this war for so long?

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The Ugandans are now spearheading the fight to capture him, but for

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many years one of the biggest obstacles to defeating Kony came

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from within their own army. Corruption on a massive scale.

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People were starting to profit from the war, so it became actually a

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business. Therefore, I think people had less interest in ending it. And

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that, I think, proved a very serious problem.

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Most shocking was the discovery that around half the army only

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existed on paper. The scandal became known as ghost soldiers. For

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years, officers had inflated troop numbers to pocket wages and profit

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from selling supplies destined for fictitious soldiers.

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This secret Government report from 2003 reveals a plague, every single

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Ugandan army unit was involved. So it was a huge, huge problem. How

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far up it went I really can't say. From what you are telling me it's

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clear that Kony has been a convenient enemy at the expense of

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the lives of ordinary people? without doubt. Without doubt.

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you think that corruption helped to drag this war to where it is today?

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Oh, yeah, it contributed. It contributed to prolonging the war.

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Despite past corruption, the you goen Army of today, backed by

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American Special Forces, is widely believed to be the most effective

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offensive force to end this war. But what about other African Armies

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hunting the LRA? Any other force, other than the

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Ugandan Army, the LRA doesn't fear. They only fear the Ugandan Army.

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Feared they may be, but the fractious politics of the region

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bars them from operating in Sudan and the Democratic Republic of

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Congo. And, according to the President, Yoweri Museveni, Uganda

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can't be expected to continue hunting Kony alone. Can you finish

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this war without western support? Where we are now is an

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international mission. It is not a domestic mission. We cannot be in

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an international mission on domestic resources. Why? It's up to

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the international community to help. An African Union Force of 5,000

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troops which could hunt for the LRA across the whole region was due to

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begin operations in March, but it hasn't happened. International

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funding has yet to materialise. Fransisco Madeira is the man asking

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for the money. You might call me a beggar, call me

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whatever you want, but the truth of the matter is that the resources

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are on one side, and the will is on the other and work has to be done.

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If a true co-operation were to take place among countries involved in

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this crisis, it would probably take a week to arrest Joseph Kony and to

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put an end to his abuses. I can Tellez you whether it's going

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to be tomorrow, the day after tomorrow or a month's time but

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eventually the man is going to go down. Will Joseph Kony ever

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surrender to face his accusers in the International Criminal Court?

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Kony is afraid. He is really afraid. He is afraid of the accusation

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against him in the Hague. Maybe the end has already been written.

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would tell me things like, you know, I know exactly how I am going to

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die. I am going to die like Hitler. One day people will wake up and

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they will find out I have been dead for sometime. Is it too much to

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hope that Kony's war may finally be drawing to an end? There is a

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