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THIS PROGRAMME CONTAINS STRONG Getting arrested man, causing

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trouble, smashing cars. It's all them smackheads up there. Welcome

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to Shadsworth. I terrorized him for, like, the past two year and that.

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An estate where kids are growing up in tough times. Do ASBOs work?

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do they BLEEP! And families are under pressure. Like Olwen, a

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single mum on benefits who says she's unable to work. Pissed off!

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I've got better things to do than keep jogging down here every couple

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of week looking for a job. Life is already a struggle for her eight-

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year-old. When my Dad don't see me, that makes me sad. Like the

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Lancasters, where money is tight. After rent, food and bills how much

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is left? On Friday, probably about �2. But who want a better life for

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their children. Sometimes I cry about it. Why? Because it's not the

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way I want to live. And like Sue and Ed. Their eldest son already

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fears for his future. What would have happened to you in three, four,

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five years? I reckon I probably would end up in prison. And wants

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to leave the estate. I do want him All of this when anti-social

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behaviour and drugs are at the door. I know 12 years olds who sniff

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Bubble. It's dirty. We meet the dealers. How much is that? 20 quid.

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And those whose job it is to stop them. Drugs are readily available.

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Does that mean you've failed then? No, not at all. Is this a picture

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of Broken Britain? We follow life on a tough estate. Kids just grow

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up to be like their mum and dad, man. It's not fair, is it? They're

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being brought up between drugs and Shadsworth is not some lost estate.

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It's full of families with hopes and aspirations. This swimming pool

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was saved by the people of the estate. Our children use it every

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single day. And it was like what will we do with the kids? Should

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they just be on the streets and that? Faced with cuts to the

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council budget, the plan was to shut the pool. We decided to set up

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petitions to keep it open and we started demonstrations. They fought

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hard for the kids. There's a lot of underage drinking and smoking and

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drugs. It's such a big thing here. And it's more the under 18s.

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they won. But not everything can be The estate faces much bigger

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threats. There are problems here that can't be driven away by a

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petition or goodwill. Shadsworth sits on the outskirts of Blackburn

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in the North-West of England. More than 2,000 people live on the

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Everyone who lives here calls it Shad. Even before this recession it

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was one of the most deprived places in the country. We've spent months

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here with families who have shared their lives with us. Each with

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their own story of life on one of Both? Knife? Thank you. I'm going

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upstairs now. Olwen Page is a single mum of four. It's teatime

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and her youngest son, Oshi, is nowhere to be seen. I wonder where

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he's gone? Shithead, isn't he? Olwen was born in Kent but has

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spent 20 years on Shad. A series of difficult relationships have

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Oshi! I told you not to disappear. Tea's ready. My mate gave me this.

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I was battered badly. And it's horrible, you know. You look back

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and now I can't believe I put my children through all that. Why I

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didn't get out after the first smack in the mouth? First head

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butt? I didn't get out. It does me head in. You getting me up for

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nowt? I'm not getting you up for nowt. It's not nowt. It's nothing.

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And it's not nothing. It's going to college. Two of Olwen's kids have

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grown up. But two still depend on her. 17-year-old Alisha. I'm going

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to Paradise today, Mum. Paradise, are you? And eight-year-old Oshi.

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They have different Dads. Both are absent. Is it nice? No. What do you

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mean no? It tastes of wine. Tastes of wine? Yeah. I haven't put any

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wine in it. Only joking. It's well good. Yeah, I know. But it's not

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better than Liam's mum's. Yeah, it is! You get his mum here and get

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her to make one and then we'll see. People can look and say you've got

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four kids by three different dads but they haven't walked in my shoes.

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You know, and it wasn't like just having kids for the sake of having

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Try not to get that down your top cos it might stain. No, no, don't

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stain! It won't stain. I'll put it on a 90.

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Oshi not seeing his dad and he doesn't understand why, you know. I

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think my dad's dead. That's why he doesn't come and see me. And I say,

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"He's not dead, Oshi, you know, he's alive and he just doesn't

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bother with you." Take that off and I'll get you another t-shirt.

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On average, per person, Blackburn has one of the highest welfare

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bills in the country. Olwen lives on benefits. She gets around �1,100

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a month to support her and her Cheaper! I'll put it back then.

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Even for families with a wage coming in it's a struggle. Pork and

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pineapple kebabs. Vicky and Andy Lancaster live on the street behind

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Olwen. Vicky's been on the Shadsworth estate all her life.

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these ones instead? You get eight for �3. Since the recession started,

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like the rest of the country, unemployment here has risen. For a

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time last year, both Andy and Vicky were out of work and family life

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became much harder. �1 for three. We can get six for �2.

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It's just like, get paid tomorrow, get the shopping, pay the bills, go

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back to work, be skint, back to work. And two weeks' time, do it

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all again. 40 for �2. Last a while! Sometimes I cry about it. Why?

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Vicky used to work as a shop assistant until being laid off.

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felt like my world had been shattered because we had so many

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plans. She now stays at home with their two children, Libby and Leon.

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Get your bags. Andy had a job in a factory and now works part-time as

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a cleaner. But his is the only wage How hard is it when it's tight like

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it is now? I get just short of �100 per week. We put in enough gas and

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electric to last a week. We pay two bills, and there's not much left,

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really, is there? So after rent, food and bills, how much is left?

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It's half-term week and further down the road, a front garden is

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full of children. This is the Morrison house. They can be

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annoying, very annoying. Especially Edward Morrison and Sue Kirkham

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have lived on the estate for 13 years. They have four boys aged

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between 10 and 15. When we first moved here it was right nice and

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quiet and after all these years it's gone bad. Ed and Sue want to

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leave the estate. They think the longer they're on Shadsworth, the

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worse it will be for their boys. Well, don't do it then! Sort it out.

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No trouble round here or I'll beat It's just all their friends and the

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attitude of their friends. All of a sudden someone will have taken a

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bike off them or stole something off them, stole their mobile phone

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off them. It makes you more determined to get away from this

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place. He wants to ring Aunty Amanda. He wants to stay at Aunty

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Amanda's. I didn't want move really, to be honest. But now, all of a

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sudden, I can't take it no more. I want to move. I said to Edward,

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"I'd like to move off here as soon as we can. I've got fed up of it. I

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can't take no more." You have to beat up this guy. Strong. Is he

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proper strong? Not proper strong. The eldest of the Morrison's four

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boys is 15-year-old Jordan. He's desperate to get away from the

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estate. And the trouble. When I were 10-ish, it used to be OK. Cos

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now I'm 15, it's gone pretty rough. Yeah, out on the pedal bikes, skate

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Vicky and Andy also worry about how their eight-year-old son Leon might

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be influenced by life on the estate. Thank you, mummy. Leon, he's easily

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led. He's at that age where if someone said to him, "You do this"

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he probably would try and do Ireland's on again tonight but you

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won't be able to watch it because you'll be in bed. Some parents

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don't care what their children do. Grafitti on everything and harass

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other neighbours. One of our neighbours just moved recently

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because of harassment. Just across the road actually. So they just

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don't care what they're doing. some find it harder to avoid the

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I go out and stay to meself and let He has learning difficulties and

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lives alone. They try to wind me up knocking at door and running. Or

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banging at door, banging at windows and running. They think, "Oh, he'll

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come out and give them a mouthful." And how often does that happen?

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mostly every night. It's like screaming at the top of their

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voices. "Big fat bastard. Pervert." You name it they say it. And it's

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children stand outside your house and shout at you? Yeah, from nine

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My problem is the long ginnel up Or like Janet who's targeted

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because of where her house is. the throwing stuff over. I'd be hit

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with stones. I've been hit with People coming over and using it

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like a toilet. It's disgusting. I hate it. I absolutely hate where I

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And this is what causes so much In Shadsworth, anti-social

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behaviour accounts for more than half of all incidents dealt with by

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the police. This group are throwing Alan! Jessie Volkert is notorious

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on Shadsworth as a trouble maker. About age 14, innit? Growing up and

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that watching all the older lots and growing up and stuff. Obviously

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you want to be like them. And, I don't know, it's weird. Jessie was

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part a gang that, for a time, terrorized the estate. The police

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used anti-social behaviour orders to try to control them. Jessie is

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still on his. We'll say we're thugs but we want to sort ourselves out.

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But we've been brought up in the gutter, you know what I mean?

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ASBO bans him from parts of the estate. But Jessie blatantly

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ignores it. Do ASBOs work? Do they lock! I'm

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not allowed all way round here. Yeah, I'm not allowed up there. I'm

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not allowed up there or nothing. You're not allowed here. Lock em

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anyway. I'm barred from everywhere. Every street, everywhere except for

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one. My route home, innit? Jessie and the gang were at their worst

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when they targetted the estate's shopkeeper. 10, 15 outside, used to

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be loads. You know, shouting and screaming, saying swear words.

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Throwing eggs on us when we standing on the till. It was really

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bad. Terrorising him all the time, and stealing crates of beer and

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shit and getting off. Terrorised him for the past two years.

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Sometimes racist comments as well. Black bastard, Taxi, things like

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that. Did they threaten you? Yeah, they did they did threaten me. They

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would say, "We're going to burn your shop". Smile for the camera!

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Go on, let's have a smile. Though the police cracked down on Jessie

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and the gang, anti-social behaviour eats away at estates like

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Shadsworth. And families worry about their children getting sucked

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in. Honestly, just got out of control, innit? Sniffing and that.

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Taking coke every day when I was a kid and that. Got out of order and

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shit. Only out four-week of jail and got a recall for six month back

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to prison and that. Got back. I were out for six week. Got a recall

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back to prison and that. Got back out and got done for possession of

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firearm and locking back in jail and that. And I'm now, innit, on

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licence and shit. I don't want none of that. Lock that. But I know I'm

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going to end up back inside by the end of this week or whatever.

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the end of this week? Probably, yes. It's longest I've stayed out of

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jail. How long have I been out of jail now, Smithy? About a week and

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a half. About a week and a half. I'm proud I'm still out. And days

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later, Jessie was back inside, accused of theft, criminal damage

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Lock off, Moorey, bang! Jake Walsh was part of Jessie's

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What would you want to do though? Don't know! Alan, you can get on

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TV! He was 14 back then. Oi, he's got a camera! Now he's 17, he lives

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off the estate but still comes back What do you come back to Shad for?

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See my mates and my mum. What do you do here? Just hang around with

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What was your childhood like? Crazy! Why was it crazy? Getting

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arrested, man. Causing trouble smashing cars, smoking drugs.

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sort of age are we talking about? When I started getting into

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trouble? About 10, 11, 12. 12, the first time I got arrested, I think.

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Why were you doing all these things? Bored. Nothing to do.

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I get bored but I don't go smashing cars. But you're older, innit?

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That's what kids do. When did you stop doing that? Getting took into

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There are other ways of trying to Do you want some skins? I've got

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enough. Four or five? Look I'm going. From the age of 11, Olwen's

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daughter Alisha was involved in anti-social behaviour. Bye, mucky

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I used to get in trouble a lot. Get chases and stuff. Get in with the

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wrong crowd. Like, if you're chucking stones at windows they'll

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come and chase you. Like, cos there was nowt to do, so used to go round

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in gangs. I'm not saying she was innocent. She was hanging around

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with them when they were doing it. It's just as bad as doing it.

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That's what I told her. Breaking fences, chucking little stones at

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windows, calling people, all sorts. I dreaded Alisha going out. I

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dreaded her going to school. I dreaded the phone ringing saying,

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"Can you come up?" There was just no talking to Alisha. Alisha and I

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didn't know each other. Like she just was not my child. It was a

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really bad time. Alisha's trouble causing on the

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estate only stopped when the family was warned they could be evicted.

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My mum was going to lose her house it got that bad, so I had to stay

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in or else we were going to lose the house. I just found it better.

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I stayed in with DVDs and chilled They just had me down at meetings

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saying, "If this goes on you will lose your house." Awful, awful. I

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kept her in for three months. I thought, "If I keep her in she

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Bloody move! Not funny. Meant to be bloody holidays. Get to sleep in

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bed. But how the friggin hell can ya? Oh, stop being so grumpy!

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They've been awake a while. Yeah, but I bloody weren't hearing knock

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The Morrisons' eldest son Jordan has had enough of the estate. He's

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left the family home and Sue wants him back. I do miss you, lad. I

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would like you back home, you know? Yeah I know. So why can't you?

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don't know, Mum. I used to enjoy your help in house and going

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shopping with us. I'm going, Mum, cos I'm watching Jeremy Kyle.

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will you let me know? I don't know. Though he's only 15, Sue can't stop

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He's moved to his aunt's a mile away. And is now much nearer to his

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girlfriend. He says Shadsworth means trouble. And he's determined

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not to go back. When I don't go out I stay out of trouble and it's all

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right. But if I go out I end up bricking their houses windows and

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bricking cars. Tell us what happened? I was with

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my mates near a park. A car drove past and I threw a brick at it. It

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didn't smash or owt, but it dented the side of car and scratched it.

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They stopped, came over, and said, "Good job that weren't the window.

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If I had a passenger could have be killed or summat." You say there's

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trouble on the estate but the trouble most people are frightened

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of is you and your mates? I only came up here to get away from all

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my mates and now I've got new mates. If you stayed on the estate, where

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do you think you'd be in three or four or five years? I reckon I

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The Morrisons are also worried about their second son, Mark. That,

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at 13, he too is on the wrong track. They stress me out. I feel like

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killing them. I think anybody would. This is what it's like. If Edward

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was here he'd say, "Don't talk to your mum like that". They say,

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"Well, she deserves it at times." No, he wouldn't. He'd say, "Shut up

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going on". He's the worst one of the lot. That stresses me out.

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Mark's behaviour has already got He's had quite a few fights at

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school, hasn't he? He's hit a teacher on one occasion. What did

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you think when you heard that? was shocked. I grounded him and

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keeping him in and stay away from You hurt a teacher, didn't you?

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What happened to the teacher? been messing in queue, yeah? So

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then I went there one day for my dinner and he wouldn't let me so I

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hit him. What, in the face? here. What did you hit him with?

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Oshi too has had problems. Earlier this year he was permanently

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excluded from school and is now taught in a unit for difficult kids.

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A reasonable day but missed a lot of golden time due to having to

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Why are you starting to be naughty? I'm not. Olwen thinks school hasn't

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worked for Oshi. I didn't want him going to school.

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Wanted him with me. So he had a lot of time off. What was going through

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your head to keep him off school? You must know that was harming him?

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No, because when they go to school your children change and I didn't

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want him changing. I didn't want outside influence in him, you know.

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I don't see why they have to go to Jordan Morrison has had problems at

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school as well, so two days a week he comes here to Fernhurst on the

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Some of the children here have difficult backgrounds. Exclusion,

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violence and anti-social behaviour. All right, lads, you all right?

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Where you off to this morning? Are you not going out? Saw you coming

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off your bike the other day. It was a classic.

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George Sinclair is the head at Fernhurst, which steps in when

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children in local mainstream schools are struggling.

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There are a lot of children whose lives are blighted by the

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addictions of their parents. Their lives are blighted by difficult

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family circumstances, broken homes or where children are in care.

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There are a whole range of things Don't forget that this work that

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you are doing, you are pretending, lads, you are pretending that you

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are the instructor and you're in charge of a group taking us out

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rock-climbing. The classes are smaller and the

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kids learn through activities. assessment. Mountain-biking. Come

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on, let's have a look. It is a more expensive to send children to

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Fernhurst. But should troubled kids get more resources? It's about

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giving them encouragement, and that hope that they can do it. It's very

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difficult to breakdown that cycle of deprivation, that lack of

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aspiration, that's not just on estates in Blackburn, but across

:28:35.:28:39.

the country. Come on, open the door. It's the

:28:39.:28:45.

police! The school can only do so much. Where the kids live is where

:28:45.:28:50.

the real challenges are. The reason we've got a drugs

:28:50.:28:52.

warrant is that we've got information that you've been

:28:52.:28:55.

growing cannabis. On Shadsworth, the police are

:28:55.:29:02.

raiding a flat. They've been tipped off that drugs are being grown here.

:29:02.:29:12.
:29:12.:29:16.

Are you aware of the plants in the back? I'm aware someone's using

:29:16.:29:26.
:29:26.:29:31.

He pleads horticultural ignorance. A guy I know from the pub he just

:29:31.:29:41.
:29:41.:29:42.

said, "Can I..." I just thought Everyone we meet on the estate says

:29:42.:29:49.

drugs are pretty much everywhere. And not just cannabis.

:29:49.:29:54.

Drugs are rife on the estate. They're everywhere. Cannabis. Skunk.

:29:54.:30:00.

Bubble. Coke. Do you worry about your children growing up in that

:30:00.:30:08.

atmosphere? Yeah, but you can only teach them, can't you? The dangers,

:30:08.:30:11.

the awareness, and I'm very open with my children. Because you smoke

:30:11.:30:17.

weed, don't you? Yes, I do smoke weed. And I think the ones that do

:30:17.:30:20.

smoke weed are just placid, no bother, no trouble because they're

:30:20.:30:29.

Give us it now, you locking speccy bastard! Dan, take his ankles out!

:30:29.:30:35.

All I've done is weed. That's all I ever do. Cannabis, man. Even the

:30:35.:30:40.

young ones know all about drugs. You go on that park on that

:30:40.:30:43.

football pitch and ask one kid about drugs, they'll tell you

:30:43.:30:50.

everything about it, man. Kids just grow up to be their mum and dad.

:30:50.:30:55.

It's not fair, is it? They're being brought up between drugs and hate.

:30:55.:31:00.

So how much do the police know about drug use on the estate?

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a very difficult question, is that, actually. I would much rather

:31:05.:31:08.

prefer to say there are people living in Shadsworth who have drug

:31:08.:31:17.

Do people deal drugs on street corners in Shadsworth openly? Very

:31:17.:31:27.
:31:27.:31:31.

Well, this is a street corner on Shadsworth. I didn't owe you

:31:31.:31:37.

locking �20! What? Outside the main shopping parade, a group are

:31:37.:31:44.

arguing about drugs. Why did you get another 20 quid off him?

:31:44.:31:48.

said he'd do me a good deal, right, and he'd give me 90 for �40 and I

:31:48.:31:52.

paid him. You give him 20. Within minutes of arriving at the shops,

:31:52.:31:59.

we were offered some. Do you like your wiz? Yeah, love some.

:31:59.:32:05.

after any? Yeah, yeah. You got some? Oh, of course I've got some,

:32:05.:32:09.

mate. "Wiz", or amphetamine, is a Class B drug. That's a gram there.

:32:09.:32:13.

I'll give it you for a fiver now, innit? It's good tackle as well.

:32:13.:32:16.

Trust me, mate, trust me. I say just take it easy with that stuff,

:32:16.:32:19.

mate. It's sending me locking round bend, honestly, like burning meself

:32:19.:32:23.

and shit like that. But there's one drug the whole estate is talking

:32:23.:32:26.

about. Bubble. It's a cheap, manufactured chemical that used to

:32:26.:32:35.

be legal. Now it's banned. Bubble. There's a lot of people on that, is

:32:35.:32:43.

there? Everyone's on it, everyone takes it. This one, this one...

:32:43.:32:49.

Simon is 18. So is his friend, Danny. Anthony is 21. They've all

:32:49.:32:55.

grown up on Shadsworth. Do you take it? I don't take it, no. Why do

:32:55.:32:59.

they all take it? Because it's cheap and it's a like a quick rush

:32:59.:33:04.

at the weekends. What does it do to you? People sniff it. Do you know

:33:04.:33:07.

like crystals? It's just dirty, horrible. You say everybody takes

:33:07.:33:13.

it. What age groups take it? Like 13 to old men, innit? Everyone.

:33:13.:33:16.

is it everywhere on this estate? Everywhere, everywhere. Where do

:33:16.:33:22.

they get the money from, then? lived in Shad all my life and a lot

:33:23.:33:26.

of young-uns do go out and nick stuff for the drugs. Like Anthony

:33:26.:33:32.

said, 13. I know 12-year-olds that sniff Bubble. It's dirty. People

:33:32.:33:35.

sell their mobile phones and stuff for it. They'll swap anything they

:33:35.:33:39.

can get their hands on. You get addicted to it do you? Everyone's

:33:39.:33:43.

addicted to it. It used to be everyone used to have it at

:33:43.:33:49.

weekends but now everyone's on it every day. Come here! It's meant to

:33:49.:33:53.

go on my belly button. Come here! Who wears things up there now?

:33:53.:33:56.

Simon Cowell. Not you. Olwen's daughter Alisha says Bubble is just

:33:56.:34:01.

a part of life here. I smoke cannabis. I don't take no hardcore

:34:01.:34:05.

drugs like Bubble and stuff. It's like cocaine but it gets you more

:34:05.:34:10.

wired, I think, something. You don't need to have a lot of it and

:34:10.:34:15.

I don't know... It's dangerous. lots of people take that? Yeah,

:34:15.:34:18.

when you're drinking, cos it sobers you up when you drink, so they mix

:34:18.:34:28.
:34:28.:34:30.

it. And Bubble was easy to get hold Outside the same parade of shops,

:34:30.:34:36.

we got talking to a man called Eddie, who says his son's a dealer.

:34:36.:34:40.

Yeah, I can get it all the time. You can get it all the time? Yeah,

:34:40.:34:45.

he's my son who does it. Your son, yeah? Yeah, I put everybody on to

:34:45.:34:49.

him, do you know what I mean? He's the biggest dealer around here.

:34:49.:34:57.

Have you got ya... What ya after? Got a tenner? Yeah, I have, yeah,

:34:57.:35:02.

yeah, yeah. Thanks very much. Eddie takes us to a house and tells us to

:35:02.:35:07.

wait around the corner. Sorted. Yeah. Roll it out. It's all

:35:07.:35:15.

crystals. �10 for a gram of Bubble. Told it was a good deal, didn't I?

:35:15.:35:21.

We want to meet the dealer. What's the number? If you need it, phone

:35:21.:35:31.
:35:31.:35:33.

it. Have you got a pen? And two days later we call. What do you

:35:33.:35:37.

want? Jay and I wondered if we could get a couple of bags?

:35:37.:35:43.

want two? Yeah. Our order is delivered by the man Eddie says his

:35:43.:35:53.
:35:53.:35:55.

son, Chris. Is it this fella? these two lads here. One or two?

:35:55.:36:00.

Two, please, mate. Can you give them the number? How much is that?

:36:00.:36:07.

�20. I think that's what I've got. We contacted Chris McKenzie and,

:36:07.:36:13.

despite what we'd seen, he denied dealing in drugs. We have recovered

:36:13.:36:16.

and seized this compound from people up in Shadsworth, as we have

:36:16.:36:26.
:36:26.:36:28.

It would be wrong to say on Shadsworth it's absolutely

:36:28.:36:30.

commonplace and everybody is basically consuming those types of

:36:30.:36:38.

drugs. Our team was offered drugs. That doesn't surprise me, that

:36:38.:36:42.

doesn't surprise me. But there are relatively speaking small numbers

:36:42.:36:52.
:36:52.:37:06.

of people engaging in this type of The drugs on the estate are cheap.

:37:06.:37:16.
:37:16.:37:16.

A fiver's all you need. This is a poor area. Yes. Ha! I'm having spam.

:37:16.:37:21.

Spam. Nearly a third of people in Blackburn of working age are not in

:37:21.:37:27.

work much higher than the national average. He's split up with Nicola.

:37:27.:37:30.

That's why he's stressing, isn't it? Olwen's not working and neither

:37:30.:37:35.

is her eldest daughter. Hello... Rhiannon also lives on the estate.

:37:35.:37:39.

You look ever so pretty. She, too, is a single mum to six-year-old

:37:39.:37:48.

Ellie-Mae. In two weeks' I'm going on holiday with my bike and you.

:37:48.:37:53.

Where's the poxy bus? Olwen hasn't had a job for eight years. She's

:37:53.:37:58.

been called into the job centre and Rhiannon goes with her. Two singles

:37:58.:38:03.

to town, please. Because she's been on benefits for a long time, she

:38:03.:38:08.

has to attend regular interviews. haven't had one this quick, you

:38:08.:38:13.

know what I mean? It's just usually every six months. It's only three

:38:13.:38:16.

weeks since Olwen's last appointment. She's not happy at

:38:16.:38:26.
:38:26.:38:28.

being called back. Nervous. Upset. Pissed off. Why? Because I've got

:38:28.:38:31.

better things to be doing with my time than keep jogging down here

:38:31.:38:35.

every couple of week looking for a job. Olwen's last job was working

:38:35.:38:40.

an hour a day as a school lunch assistant. You only got paid for

:38:40.:38:44.

the hour but you leave at half-11. That's half an hour. You're not

:38:44.:38:47.

getting out til half-one so that's really like two hours' work you've

:38:47.:38:51.

done. You can't go to town to do what you've got to do because

:38:51.:38:56.

you've got to go to school to do your job. I don't know. I don't

:38:56.:38:59.

think there's enough incentive to get back to work. It's just an

:38:59.:39:09.
:39:09.:39:12.

headache. Locking horrendous, RAPPING: These days, man, it's hard

:39:12.:39:22.
:39:22.:39:29.

to prevail... Danny, Simon and Anthony are also not working.

:39:30.:39:33.

That's all I'm doing man, cos I'm locking... What does a normal day

:39:33.:39:39.

involve? I wake up at eight, run a bath. I have a nice joint while I'm

:39:39.:39:47.

in the bath. Go to the gym if he's awake. There's nothing. Just

:39:47.:39:55.

nothing. Nothing for no-one round here. I don't know anyone that

:39:55.:39:59.

works hardly. There's about three or four people I know work but

:39:59.:40:03.

they're not our age, they're your age. Old. Everyone young from about

:40:03.:40:07.

16-30 is out of work round here. Everyone. There's hardly no-one

:40:07.:40:17.
:40:17.:40:18.

that works. Why? Why does nobody work? Cos there is no jobs.

:40:18.:40:25.

there are jobs to be had. They just don't pay well. The average weekly

:40:25.:40:31.

wage here in Blackburn is one of the lowest in the country. When

:40:31.:40:37.

Andy Lancaster lost his factory job, he found work as a cleaner. It took

:40:37.:40:42.

us ages to find a job. I got a cleaning job, which was the first

:40:42.:40:46.

one to came along, so I just took it. I'd rather have a job than look

:40:46.:40:50.

for a job. Andy does two cleaning jobs a day, earning around �100 a

:40:50.:40:57.

week. Tax credits help people on low incomes. They double Andy's

:40:57.:41:05.

wages. But government spending cuts mean fewer people now qualify.

:41:05.:41:09.

got paid last Wednesday and my wage was gone by Friday. We're looking

:41:09.:41:13.

to book a holiday but it's not going to happen. We just get the

:41:13.:41:16.

brochures. That's as far as we go cos can't afford. Just look at

:41:16.:41:26.
:41:26.:41:28.

pictures, really. Hello! Hi, Dad. Did you have a nice day? It's been

:41:28.:41:32.

all right, sweetheart. Glad I'm home. Would you be better on

:41:32.:41:35.

benefits? Have you considered that? Yeah, probably. You get more

:41:35.:41:41.

handouts on benefits. You get rent paid, no council tax to pay. That

:41:41.:41:44.

does my head in because they're the ones who can always afford things.

:41:44.:41:49.

Yeah, the handouts. I wish I could have handouts. I have to work for

:41:49.:41:57.

my handout. It's daft. Probably the majority of people on this estate

:41:57.:42:00.

don't work and the people that do work ain't afford a lot, which I

:42:00.:42:10.
:42:10.:42:10.

Oh, don't read out, man. Oh, did you put it on Facebook? I'm getting

:42:10.:42:14.

shagged! Why are you not getting shagged? With average wages in this

:42:14.:42:21.

area so low, some don't seem the point in working. Only jobs are

:42:21.:42:26.

cleaning jobs in Burnley, and you don't want to do that.

:42:26.:42:29.

interviewed a bloke and he only earns the same as benefits. Would

:42:29.:42:37.

you work for the same as benefits? No. Why? Why when you can get

:42:37.:42:41.

benefits? It's not a great way to think but why go to all that

:42:41.:42:45.

effort? It's common sense. But work ethic. It's that sense you get from

:42:45.:42:51.

working. What, tired? Getting up early in the morning? But you earn

:42:52.:42:56.

a wage. Does that appeal to you? It's only better off going to work

:42:56.:42:59.

if you're actually better off in the pocket. There's nothing I want

:42:59.:43:02.

to do, and you're not going to put all that effort into something you

:43:03.:43:08.

don't want to do. What did you want to do when you were growing up?

:43:08.:43:12.

When I were young I wanted to be a firefighter but I ended up being an

:43:12.:43:17.

arsonist when I were younger. is back from the job centre. So how

:43:17.:43:24.

did it go? Feel relieved. I just think right they're off my back for

:43:24.:43:28.

eight weeks if I'm lucky. If this lunchtime he'd said, "Here's a job,

:43:28.:43:32.

start tomorrow morning", how would that have felt? I would have said,

:43:32.:43:36.

"You're having a laugh". I'm on that much medication. I take anti-

:43:36.:43:39.

depressants and take them at night, so therefore I'm tired in the

:43:39.:43:43.

morning. It's enough energy to get the child off to school to think

:43:43.:43:47.

about what's going on with the day, do the shopping. Just getting

:43:47.:43:57.
:43:57.:43:59.

They've got no deals. Usually have deals on. Haven't got any deals?

:43:59.:44:02.

Even those with a wage, like Vicky and Andy, have to constantly juggle

:44:02.:44:10.

money to pay the bills. 20 on each. No, we're �5 in credit on electric.

:44:10.:44:16.

No, put ten on electric. No, 20 on each. No, 20 on gas, ten on

:44:16.:44:23.

electric. There's not much spare cash. Can we have �20 on that one?

:44:23.:44:26.

Any extra demand on the family purse brings problems, and in the

:44:26.:44:30.

past they've turned to doorstep loans. We've got two kids to buy

:44:30.:44:35.

for. We were struggling. And Leon's birthday. Yeah, Leon's birthday is

:44:35.:44:38.

two days after Christmas so we had to get that extra loans in and

:44:39.:44:42.

stuff, so we could get the extras to make their life happy, and we're

:44:42.:44:45.

still paying back now. But being in debt only added to their financial

:44:45.:44:51.

worries. How much did you borrow? 500. Over how long? A year. And how

:44:51.:44:55.

much did you pay back? 52 weeks... About �900 altogether, so about

:44:55.:45:05.
:45:05.:45:09.

Vicky and Andy don't want their children to struggle as they have.

:45:09.:45:12.

When you think of the future for Libby and Leon, will they be on

:45:13.:45:20.

Shadsworth? I don't want them to be on this estate. It's gone down this

:45:20.:45:25.

much in 30 years I've lived here. What's it going to be like when

:45:25.:45:30.

they're older? I think it's going to get a lot, lot worse. I'd like

:45:30.:45:33.

to have them good education. The schools are good round here, so

:45:33.:45:37.

which is always a good thing, you know, and hopefully they will go on

:45:37.:45:42.

and get a good life for themselves, you know. I wish I had gone to

:45:42.:45:45.

college and Uni. That's just me. I couldn't be bothered but I want

:45:45.:45:52.

them to go. Leon always asks, "Mum, why didn't you go to college?"

:45:52.:46:00.

scoring me. You've missed one. need him to go and do something to

:46:00.:46:03.

better himself, so whether it be in this country or in another country,

:46:03.:46:06.

as long as he is successful in whatever he does, that's my main

:46:06.:46:16.
:46:16.:46:17.

Saved by the goalie!There'll be no pocket money tomorrow! Clean your

:46:17.:46:26.

teeth! A few doors away, Olwen, too, finds life difficult. Are you done?

:46:26.:46:29.

So difficult that she gets special support from a scheme co-ordinated

:46:29.:46:37.

by the council. It's all about intervening early. Come on!

:46:37.:46:39.

Nationally, the Government is rolling out a similar project to

:46:39.:46:48.

help 120,000 of what it calls "troubled families"... Who it says

:46:48.:46:53.

cost �9 billion a year. Is that not going to be too high, all those

:46:53.:46:58.

pillows? Olwen has been helped with basic parenting skills. Things like

:46:58.:47:04.

getting Oshi to sleep in his own bed. God bless, good night.

:47:04.:47:12.

bless, good night. Love you, too. Love your smelly bones. I was

:47:12.:47:17.

really down. Not in a very nice place, felt I couldn't cope with

:47:17.:47:20.

the world and all its troubles, and they decided to put these people in

:47:20.:47:30.
:47:30.:47:38.

place to help with me, help with Oh, Oshi! Do yer spellings! "Went"

:47:38.:47:42.

- W-E... Olwen has also been helped by the Housing Association. Good

:47:42.:47:47.

boy. So S-O... They got me carpets, they got me two skips so I could

:47:47.:47:49.

have a clear-out of absolutely everything, they paid for wallpaper

:47:50.:47:53.

and took me out to get paint. Just helped me so I could just feel

:47:53.:47:59.

better in myself. Oh, Osh, we're off now, darling! Blackburn Council

:47:59.:48:01.

says it's got ring-fenced government money to help more

:48:01.:48:07.

families. But all services here are under pressure. The council's

:48:07.:48:13.

budget has been cut by �33 million and up to 1,000 jobs could go.

:48:13.:48:19.

a super day! Love you lots! And as part of the Government's austerity

:48:19.:48:25.

measures, across all agencies there will be more cuts. All right? You

:48:25.:48:32.

OK? Hello, hello. Sometimes he is! And Shadsworth, like everywhere

:48:32.:48:35.

else, will feel them. It's very rare to catch him that way. What

:48:35.:48:41.

you been drinking? England. You've been drinking England?! French beer.

:48:41.:48:45.

Lancashire Police have had to lose jobs. More than 500 so far. Hey,

:48:45.:48:51.

stop swearing! That's out of order! You know, we've got to be honest

:48:51.:48:54.

about this and say we are in a different place than we were two or

:48:54.:49:02.

three years ago. The cuts are here for a purpose. We have to find

:49:02.:49:07.

savings in order to support the rest of the country. Where are you

:49:07.:49:11.

off to now? You off home? Yeah, he's going home. In Lancashire, we

:49:11.:49:14.

have taken some staff off the front line because we've had no choice.

:49:15.:49:17.

But most of our savings currently have come from back office

:49:17.:49:21.

functions. OK, Malc, checked everything's in order. You're free

:49:21.:49:31.
:49:31.:49:42.

Hit it, on me arse! Olwen, too, is worried about the future. Oshi's

:49:42.:49:45.

been out of mainstream schooling since he hurt a teacher and was

:49:45.:49:51.

permanently excluded from primary school. On the Tuesday he got

:49:51.:49:55.

accused of strangling a boy. He was sent to this teacher. Apparently he

:49:55.:49:59.

was shouted at. You've had your hands round this boy's throat. He

:49:59.:50:02.

came in from school on Tuesday evening and said he hadn't done it.

:50:02.:50:07.

Fight me like a man! Fight me like a man! Fight me like a man! He went

:50:07.:50:11.

on the Friday. Apparently he'd been in trouble with these children in

:50:11.:50:14.

the playground. They then wanted to send him to this teacher that had

:50:14.:50:18.

told him off for the Tuesday incident. He then ran off into the

:50:18.:50:26.

toilets. This teacher's then pushed the toilet cubicle door. He said,

:50:26.:50:30.

"f off", and pushed the door in her face and bust her lip. Oshi, I give

:50:30.:50:36.

up now. I give up now, Oshi. I give up right. Did you punish him when

:50:36.:50:45.

he was excluded? No, I didn't. Don't cry, boy, don't cry. He knows

:50:45.:50:48.

what he did was wrong. It's no good me bringing him home here and

:50:48.:50:51.

saying, "You're not going on Xbox, you're not going out, you're not

:50:51.:50:55.

having any sweets". What good is that going to do? It might teach

:50:55.:50:58.

him a lesson. Yes, but he's just been excluded from school. Hasn't

:50:58.:51:01.

he learnt his lesson there? He's not going to see his friends any

:51:01.:51:04.

more. Olwen is considering home- schooling Oshi. The thing he wants

:51:04.:51:11.

most is to see his dad. When my dad doesn't see me, that makes me sad.

:51:11.:51:15.

When was the last time you saw your dad, then? When it were my birthday.

:51:16.:51:22.

Why don't you see him? Because he couldn't be bothered to see me.

:51:22.:51:32.
:51:32.:51:35.

you miss him? Yeah. When do you think you'll see him next? Never.

:51:35.:51:40.

Well, you might. How would that make you feel if you saw him?

:51:40.:51:48.

Do you think about it a lot? Yeah. What do you think about? Cos I can

:51:48.:51:56.

remember the times when he did see me. What was it like the last time

:51:56.:52:01.

you saw your dad? Good. Well, not that good cos he only saw me for

:52:01.:52:06.

about one minute. It was my birthday. I was sat on the floor

:52:06.:52:10.

and he sat on the floor, and then he just went. He gave my presents

:52:10.:52:16.

and then he just went. What did he say to you when he left? Nothing. I

:52:16.:52:23.

said, "Can you come and see me one day?" And he never did. Oshi's dad

:52:23.:52:33.
:52:33.:52:40.

told us he thought it was better to Is it just T-shirts you need, then,

:52:40.:52:44.

lad? Jordan has come back home, but only briefly. To pick up more

:52:44.:52:52.

clothes. What have you been doing at Fernhurst today? Nowt. Just gone

:52:52.:53:02.
:53:02.:53:06.

bike riding. Kyle, behave. No. just explained to him that I look

:53:06.:53:09.

at that picture when I'm listening to music and I get upset. Jordan,

:53:09.:53:17.

does it make you sad to see your Mum upset? Yeah. Josh, please will

:53:17.:53:27.
:53:27.:53:33.

you go down. OK. Say "excuse me", Josh. Just did. Dad. He leaves,

:53:33.:53:43.
:53:43.:54:05.

back to his new home, away from I do want him back but he won't

:54:05.:54:11.

come back. Mark's even told him, "Mum misses you and wants you back",

:54:11.:54:21.
:54:21.:54:22.

haven't you, lad? And what's he say? "No". He says, "I'm not being

:54:22.:54:32.
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funny, Mum, I can't come back up OK, guys, let's go! Jordan's in his

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last year at Fernhurst. He's on a school trip to the Yorkshire Dales.

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We can do all sorts. We can do walking, mountain-biking. We've not

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long ago come back from France skiing, kayaking, gorge-walking,

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The last time we saw pair of dippers was right up at Ingleton

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Falls, and the situation is very Even though the kids live just an

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hour from here, if they don't come out with us, they would never even

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know places like this existed. Bringing them out here actually

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makes them thrive. It's nice and Why can't I get a job there?

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Because you're at college. Well, you could do, you could do nights

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but... Olwen sees no escape for her. Yeah, six till two in the morning.

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I am stuck here. It's my own fault I'm stuck here. It's not the place

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I want to live or choose to live but I am here and I'm stuck here,

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and I've got to make the most of what I've got. Do I look forward to

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anything? No. Am I happy about anything? No. I just live day to

:56:37.:56:47.
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day and that's the upbeat of it. Is it coming off? No, it's too

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tight. You need a good pair to get it off. At the Morrisons', Ed says

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he needs to leave. He's says he's got a house away from Shadsworth

:57:07.:57:11.

and is threatening to go on his own. Well, I'm sorted. I've got the

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house sorted to move but just see how things go with these. The two

:57:15.:57:20.

little ones are all right. It's just Mark the way he is. What's the

:57:20.:57:25.

big boots on for? Take them off. said to them, I said, "Your dad's

:57:25.:57:30.

embarrassed cos of the way you are, to take you to new house". I said,

:57:30.:57:40.
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"I want to go to this new house and I reckon if I were on my own, if

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Eddie did leave, I reckon I won't be able to cope with Mark. Others I

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can handle. It's just Mark I can't control. Mark's the only one I

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can't control, whereas Edward can.Mark's brother gone. Now his

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For these families, staying together, paying the bills, wanting

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more life on the estate is a struggle. Shadsworth is no

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